For Hexameron Alfred Schnittke's ghostly Concerto for piano and strings, performed by Marc-André Hamelin and the Manitoba Chamber Orchestra, conducted by Scott Yoo in 2008.
@@eduardorabelo5642 As did I. Amazing composer - so much technical craft as well as deep feeling. If Schnittke is underrated, it's because, sadly, we have lost the capacity as a culture to appreciate him. But then, being not mainstream isn't the same as being underrated.
I'm not sure if Schnittke is underrated, he was very popular in the 1980s and '90's in the West, he was even one of the most performed and recorded composers of that era. But it seems that his musical legacy is viewed somewhat unfavorable by musicologists. I have read quite recently a book in the series' Oxford keynotes' on his Concerto Grosso nr. 1, which mentions this view (to my surprise).
Thank you for uploading this! I was in the audience at this concert, and checked in vain for years afterward for a recording. The CBC was there to record it, but it seems to never have been released. This concert was the first time I heard this piece, and it is not an understatement to say that it was life-changing for me. Hamelin waited a good 5 minutes for the audience to become completely quiet before beginning; this helped build the anticipation and set the mood for the quiet introductory section. The best way I can describe the experience of being there is that it felt like witnessing the creation of the universe, the coming into being of order from chaos through a series of violent cataclysms interposed with periods of calm. During the stunning section of sforzandi beginning around 35, I was on the edge of my seat, expecting at any moment the piano to collapse under the force of Hamelin's playing! Needless to say, I was part of the standing ovation you hear at the end. I don't know how you acquired this recording (did you make it or know the person who made it?) but if you know of any way to get an even better quality recording it would be a treasure to me! With any luck Hamelin will record this piece with Hyperion and the world can be made a better place.
Schnittke is not mocking. Schnittke uses quotations, seudoquotations, quotations of style and genre, all one of his multiple resources: the polistylism.
Hamelin is a very courageous pianist who chooses music which is not generally popular and can make it as such. Please listen to his incredible insight how this should be played. Absolutely marvelous! Hats off as well to the composer who blew his nose on antiharmonic modern classical music.
I'm so grateful to have found this upload...I was at the actual performance, first time hearing the piece and finally was able to learn it for myself this year. So good to hear what I spires me 4 years ago!
I like this. Very beautiful---what makes it work for me is his extreme dissonance with passages of tonality to give relief and contrast. Something I did not like in the 12 tone school.
This piece has never been recorded on CD by Hamelin, unfortunately. This one is a non-commercial recording. You can download it and put it on your MP3 player, however... :)
_I once fell asleep listening to Schnittke, and had the most unreal and "terrible" dreams did appear -- doubtless these being the shadows of what I was hearing. It took me to some queer astral dimension, where furies venge, and melting strange and terrible; making me think twice about allowing such sound vibrations into my being. Alas, I am a slow learner. This has been one of my favorite musical pieces since I was a teenager. The composer really did tune into something -- mid and lower astral planes, I reckon. The place where black sorcerers from time immemorial have captured the moonlight. The composer was born with a Moon - Pluto conjunction in Cancer, the sign of the earth itself, so you see where he drew this energy from emotionally and with his subconscious. Yikes! But I love it.
Like most contributors, I felt the feeling of wonderment. Amazing, the first time I heard it. I have to thank a Facebook contributor for the recommendation!
@@paulfreeman4900 what ARE you talking about? I mentioned a specific quotation used by a composer who loved to use quotation and you're all offended. Do you know what homage means?
Hey there, isn't there a chance you might still have this file in a better quality? I keep coming back to it every year, it's an extraordinary recording. Either way, thank you so much for the upload.
Удивительная музыка. С Душой, очень отличается от рационального искусства Запада. Настоящее искусство. Amazing music with the Soul, and very different from the rational art of the West. The real art.
By the way, if you like this piece then listen to Ginasteras two piano concertos and Leo Ornsteins marvelous piano concerto written in the 1920ties along with Rhapsody and Blue from Gershwin and Georg Antheils original version of his Jazz Symphony! .
Oh yeah, I see what you are talking about. Well, this is a bootleg, you know, so it was recorded by a member of the audience. It might just add something to the eerie atmosphere, though, I guess...
@@GUILLOM I think it’s very freely and like a improvisation more than normal classical piece. How could a human can find the point of this kind of music and performs it?
@@somchaisaelee328 Well, that's your opinion I guess, remember that each human being has their own tastes. To me this music feels carefully crafted note by note, creating an incredible variety of colors and landscapes.
It is not the only copyists' error in the piece. Earlyish on when the strings enter, there is a 3/4 bar with two 8th notes followed by two dotted 4ths for a total of 4 beats where there ought to be 3. Mro Hamelin plays the dotted quarters as plain quartershere.
Hey Prokofiev does that all the time. One of his more blatant pounding on the piano is in his Sonata 7 maybe 1/2 down the first page. P is always throwing hand grenads about - his stuff has Snap Crackle Pops all over the place. Rouge chords and notes. Maybe to keep the stunned audiences alert.
Alexandra Tchepournova если исходить из вашего перечня клише, то Высокие Поэты часто наивными и бывают... У всех нас есть критические мнения о тех или иных заметных деятелей того или иного искусства. Я не композитор но имею право высказывать своё мнение в соответствии с принципом который сам Шнитке, сдаётся, ценил высоко: свободой слова.
This is really old-fashioned -too self-defined,too instantly likable -full of easily assimilated sound -imagery in many ways .The harmonies are familiar enough and even the Bartokian methods. Sounds pre-Boulez almost like a schoolboy's classical concerto for the 20th centurybut not as smart as Prokofiev's amalgam of classical and romantic elements.This is why schnittke can wrie in so many styles- he knows all the many w ays to say a thing ! The formulas of its piano writing here don't convince me he has anything too new to ay: he is looking back here ! and its full of parallelisms in utterance and structure .Why didn't Gutman get Richter to see how much sense and beauty there is in Schnittke ? The 1t piano sonata is immediately entrancing. This communicates wonderful things.Makes me wonder what came first the film music we get after Schonberg or this encyclopiac music full of unforgettable gestures and whimsical sounds .Finally after years I'm ready for Schnittke and now only because I see really how much he really was of the 20th century but he jumps off and goes completely personal , wonderul places . So grandiose and playful he is like a crazy , very Soviet war and vitriolic child -new sentiments making sentumental full of new or almost new sounds . Noone ever compared his freedom to the toy loving classicism of Ravel but its there in his symphonies , concerti and sonatas 1 & 3 for piano. I hope i am not making him into something to simple -but this concerto is just to easy to get and like ! The violin concerti dont open themselves up so easily .There is less nature and war in them perhaps more art. This feels like program music almost -so definite are its musical images !
otonanoC no, Schnittke is pseudo quoting Tchaikovsky who quoted an eastern orthodox troparion (church hymn) God preserve thy people in the 1812 overture
One of the things I've never understood about #Schnittke is his penchant for taking things so SLOWWwWwwwly. Part of me imagines it's a matter of method: that he thinks that by putting more slow notes in he can extend the length of the piece, like "look ma! I wrote 210 hours worth of music!" Like you compare to the dense works of the romantic era which kind of whizz by with so much in so little time-space. And then look at $Schnittke. He ELONGATES time in such a weird way. Is it pretense, fraud, commentary, deconstruction? All that being said, his work with texture is really great and subtle. A melodic line may sound very basic but he's using like a handful of instrument to provide really weird contrasting undertones and what have you. What a man.
Exactly, Schnittke's music is full of poly stylistic phrases, that are derived from baroque music and are embellished with micro polyphony ( which can be spotted in music of Shostakovich too ) as well as bitonality/ polytonality, clusters
Tonality or atonality is not the problem. Even the wildest form of Berg and Schoenberg have harmony. The biggest problem with modern music as of late is that it is sadly nonharmonic.
This is not a pianistic work in any sense. It is primarily ostinato to the strings which belch, fart, and scream, typical of Western "modern" music that is deliberately designed not to appeal to anyone except those who prefer atonal music. The best atonal work is the Berg Violin Concerto which is a true work of atonal art. Sorry, the "emperor has no clothes." This is just pounding block chords, with interspersed Alberti figures. My sympathies to Hamelin. sanjosemike
Yea, yea, you try to sound wisely but by "designed not to appeal to anyone except those who prefer atonal music" you're basically saying that jam is tasty only to people who likes jam... spectacular statement... You don't like it, it's ok, but don't try to universalize your aversion.
I still think this is the most beautiful piece I've ever heard. It's absolutely incredible.
a very underrated composer...also one of my faves
same ... discovered him through concerto grosso no 1.
@@eduardorabelo5642 As did I. Amazing composer - so much technical craft as well as deep feeling. If Schnittke is underrated, it's because, sadly, we have lost the capacity as a culture to appreciate him. But then, being not mainstream isn't the same as being underrated.
I'm not sure if Schnittke is underrated, he was very popular in the 1980s and '90's in the West, he was even one of the most performed and recorded composers of that era. But it seems that his musical legacy is viewed somewhat unfavorable by musicologists. I have read quite recently a book in the series' Oxford keynotes' on his Concerto Grosso nr. 1, which mentions this view (to my surprise).
Thank you for uploading this! I was in the audience at this concert, and checked in vain for years afterward for a recording. The CBC was there to record it, but it seems to never have been released.
This concert was the first time I heard this piece, and it is not an understatement to say that it was life-changing for me. Hamelin waited a good 5 minutes for the audience to become completely quiet before beginning; this helped build the anticipation and set the mood for the quiet introductory section. The best way I can describe the experience of being there is that it felt like witnessing the creation of the universe, the coming into being of order from chaos through a series of violent cataclysms interposed with periods of calm. During the stunning section of sforzandi beginning around 35, I was on the edge of my seat, expecting at any moment the piano to collapse under the force of Hamelin's playing! Needless to say, I was part of the standing ovation you hear at the end.
I don't know how you acquired this recording (did you make it or know the person who made it?) but if you know of any way to get an even better quality recording it would be a treasure to me! With any luck Hamelin will record this piece with Hyperion and the world can be made a better place.
+Variance Log a real stunning piece
@variancelog -- A Colossus indeed.....BRAVO from Acapulco!
Schnittke is not mocking. Schnittke uses quotations, seudoquotations, quotations of style and genre, all one of his multiple resources: the polistylism.
RIP Schnittke today, 3 of august, a great artist sadly past away
Hamelin is a very courageous pianist who chooses music which is not generally popular and can make it as such. Please listen to his incredible insight how this should be played. Absolutely marvelous! Hats off as well to the composer who blew his nose on antiharmonic modern classical music.
That's a pretty flawed way to understand this music, I think.
This piece breaks my heart - so effective.
I'm so grateful to have found this upload...I was at the actual performance, first time hearing the piece and finally was able to learn it for myself this year. So good to hear what I spires me 4 years ago!
8:12 - favorite part
I like this. Very beautiful---what makes it work for me is his extreme dissonance with passages of tonality to give relief and contrast. Something I did not like in the 12 tone school.
Rehearsal sections 37 and 38 made me giggle with glee. I keep finding pieces by Schnittke that I absolutely love.
Absolutely stunning. I'm relatively late to this work. I haven't been able to get this work out of my head for the last several weeks. Damn.
4:14 is just so perfect - beautifully composed
4:14
Can't go wrong with do re mi
fuck me, that climax is brutal
This piece has never been recorded on CD by Hamelin, unfortunately. This one is a non-commercial recording. You can download it and put it on your MP3 player, however... :)
bemused by this mysterious piece .. sounds incredible
I've just finished listening to this based on a recommendation. Wooow!!!
This is a truly magnificent piece. Thanks for posting it!
Truly amazing!
powerful and beautiful!!
_I once fell asleep listening to Schnittke, and had the most unreal and "terrible" dreams did appear -- doubtless these being the shadows of what I was hearing. It took me to some queer astral dimension, where furies venge, and melting strange and terrible; making me think twice about allowing such sound vibrations into my being. Alas, I am a slow learner. This has been one of my favorite musical pieces since I was a teenager. The composer really did tune into something -- mid and lower astral planes, I reckon. The place where black sorcerers from time immemorial have captured the moonlight. The composer was born with a Moon - Pluto conjunction in Cancer, the sign of the earth itself, so you see where he drew this energy from emotionally and with his subconscious. Yikes! But I love it.
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 -- Wow! BRAVO from Acapulco, yo!
Thank you for making a video of this work !
breathtaking
The strings sound like they are playing the 1812 Overture around 4:11.
My fucking God I love this piece!
+minch333
Perhaps you might express your appreciation in less offensive language
Nicholas Clews Was it the blasphemy or the "fucking" that offended you? Either way they don't make 'em like you no more!
Legendary performance.
just incredible
wonderful music
5:10 music for a horror movie
16:23 somehow disturbing, i like it.
have you played fnaf 3
Like most contributors, I felt the feeling of wonderment. Amazing, the first time I heard it. I have to thank a Facebook contributor for the recommendation!
stunning
15:31 is so despairing...
Amazing, thanks
schnittke the best fr, one of his best works right here 🔥
This is nightmare fuel, and I love it
Genie.
My favorite part is at 8:13 where we get the homage to Rach 2.
You must mean Schmuel Rachmaninoff, right? And not Sergei.....
@@steveegallo3384 ?
@@paulfreeman4900 what are you on about all i did was use a common abbreviation
@@paulfreeman4900 what ARE you talking about? I mentioned a specific quotation used by a composer who loved to use quotation and you're all offended. Do you know what homage means?
Rach 3 second movement
Hey there, isn't there a chance you might still have this file in a better quality? I keep coming back to it every year, it's an extraordinary recording. Either way, thank you so much for the upload.
Maybe the most impressive piano concerto I know.
Give the barber piano concerto a try if you haven't already. That stuff is impressive.
Reger?
@@scriabinismydog2439 no
@@f.p.2010 yes
@@GUILLOM no
I love this. Really impressive!
Sound like mysterious movie music..
Schnittke did compose a lot of music for movies, so there.
This is awesome!
Where did you get the only piano score? I found only the whole partitura.
Удивительная музыка.
С Душой, очень отличается от рационального искусства Запада.
Настоящее искусство.
Amazing music with the Soul,
and very different from the rational art of the West.
The real art.
Yes, it's quite Irrational....yet not Senseless!
Thanks a lot,but I can't understand why it isn't commercial,it's so stunning.
Is someone breathing into the mic from 19:00 on? is that part of the score. it works so amazingly well regardless
Rivals my favorite piece Concerto Grosso 1. When was it composed?
Muy Bueno!!!!
Favourite part 16:22 with strings..totaly crazy and satanique
How can I get this recording?! This music is beautiful!
I like it.-
Epic
Where did you get the sheet music? I've been hunting everywhere online, but it's very difficult to find.
Thanks!
19:22 love the part
By the way, if you like this piece then listen to Ginasteras two piano concertos and Leo Ornsteins marvelous piano concerto written in the 1920ties along with Rhapsody and Blue from Gershwin and Georg Antheils original version of his Jazz Symphony! .
Thanks, ornstein's piano concerto is a great masterpiece i'm gonna hear the other ones.
@@ha3vy Le compositiónes de Ginastera sind marvellioso especiallemente los Quarteto de Cordes y suya Concoerto per Arpa..
@@paulamrod537 yes! Ginasteras second piano concerto is one of my favorites of all time
I need the part score of piano!! where can I got it?
Wow, the Andante section reminds me a lot of Shostakovich's Viola Sonata... especially the Beethoven Moonlight Sonata quotes.
At 8:18 it's clearly a quote of the moonlight sonata 3rd movement :) !
At 18:00, what is that notation in the lower left corner?
._.
it's a abbreviation for "repeat in the analogue way as before"
Yes, now what does that section remind me of???!
do those bars beside chords (e.g. first bar of 2:33) stand for a chromatic cluster? or just a normal white note cluster?
chromatic cluster
Столько отчаяния🎹
eerie cacophonic beauty
how can I get this CD?
Oh yeah, I see what you are talking about. Well, this is a bootleg, you know, so it was recorded by a member of the audience. It might just add something to the eerie atmosphere, though, I guess...
OMFG
Tchaikovsky is that you? 4:10
hey:-) could you tell me when and where does Tchaikovsky use this motif? Thanks! Its been haunting me for a while now
Oh nevermind, got it af
@@matyasmarek3173 what is it?
This is like great old timey horror chase music
How could anyone remember and play this style of music?
What do you mean
@@GUILLOM I think it’s very freely and like a improvisation more than normal classical piece.
How could a human can find the point of this kind of music and performs it?
@@somchaisaelee328 Well, that's your opinion I guess, remember that each human being has their own tastes. To me this music feels carefully crafted note by note, creating an incredible variety of colors and landscapes.
@@GUILLOM Thank you. I think Mr Hamelin can understand every kind of music.
@@somchaisaelee328 Definitely!
Where did you get the sheet music? It is awesome!
Every time I listen to stuff like this, I feel sorry for people who genuinely believe that music stops with Nirvana and the Beatles.
7:36 sounds like music from horror film
16:12 little mistake. Should be b, not a.
+NomadRussian I'm glad you caught that. It's been bugging me all week.
+NomadRussian really???
It is not the only copyists' error in the piece. Earlyish on when the strings enter, there is a 3/4 bar with two 8th notes followed by two dotted 4ths for a total of 4 beats where there ought to be 3. Mro Hamelin plays the dotted quarters as plain quartershere.
It's just so hard to find musically competent performers these days. That's why I stopped composing...
@@loge10 Oh the lies we tell ourselves.
17:00 - 18:30 EPIC
Reminds me a lot of Charles Ives
I was starting to get into it, but then at 4:54 I couldn't help but laugh a bit.
Then you got into
Hey Prokofiev does that all the time. One of his more blatant pounding on the piano is in his Sonata 7 maybe 1/2 down the first page. P is always throwing hand grenads about - his stuff has Snap Crackle Pops all over the place. Rouge chords and notes. Maybe to keep the stunned audiences alert.
Why did that specific part stand out so much it made you laugh? Out of everything beforehand, it doesn't stand out at all to me.
h AME li N!
16:51
2:11
5:12
7:35
8:18 Beetlejuice
Is true!!! jajajajaja
Интересные места на перемешку с жутко наивными попытками выжать скупую слезу, вот она тебе и полистилистика. А пианист выше всяких похвал.
Да, уж куда наивному Шнитке до тебя-высокого Поэта! Можно послушать твои сочинения?
Alexandra Tchepournova если исходить из вашего перечня клише, то Высокие Поэты часто наивными и бывают...
У всех нас есть критические мнения о тех или иных заметных деятелей того или иного искусства. Я не композитор но имею право высказывать своё мнение в соответствии с принципом который сам Шнитке, сдаётся, ценил высоко: свободой слова.
Me gusta dissonance
This is really old-fashioned -too self-defined,too instantly likable -full of easily assimilated sound -imagery in many ways .The harmonies are familiar enough and even the Bartokian methods. Sounds pre-Boulez almost like a schoolboy's classical concerto for the 20th centurybut not as smart as Prokofiev's amalgam of classical and romantic elements.This is why schnittke
can wrie in so many styles- he knows all the many w ays to say a thing ! The formulas of its piano writing here don't convince me he has anything too new to ay: he is looking back here ! and its full of parallelisms in utterance and structure .Why didn't Gutman get Richter to see how much sense and beauty there is in Schnittke ? The 1t piano sonata is immediately entrancing. This communicates wonderful things.Makes me wonder what came first the film music we get after Schonberg or this encyclopiac music full of unforgettable gestures and whimsical sounds .Finally after years I'm ready for Schnittke and now only because I see really how much he really was of the 20th century but he jumps off and goes completely personal , wonderul places . So grandiose and playful he is like a crazy , very Soviet war and vitriolic child -new sentiments making sentumental full of new or almost new sounds . Noone ever compared his freedom to the toy loving classicism of Ravel but its there in his symphonies , concerti and sonatas 1 & 3 for piano. I hope i am not making him into something to simple -but this concerto is just to easy to get and like ! The violin concerti dont open themselves up so easily .There is less nature and war in them perhaps more art. This feels like program music almost -so definite are its musical images !
Schnittke is mocking Tchaikovsky here?
otonanoC no, Schnittke is pseudo quoting Tchaikovsky who quoted an eastern orthodox troparion (church hymn) God preserve thy people in the 1812 overture
I was listening to this While getting An mri scan. Im horrified and shellshocked. Atrocious piece of noise
One of the things I've never understood about #Schnittke is his penchant for taking things so SLOWWwWwwwly. Part of me imagines it's a matter of method: that he thinks that by putting more slow notes in he can extend the length of the piece, like "look ma! I wrote 210 hours worth of music!" Like you compare to the dense works of the romantic era which kind of whizz by with so much in so little time-space. And then look at $Schnittke. He ELONGATES time in such a weird way. Is it pretense, fraud, commentary, deconstruction? All that being said, his work with texture is really great and subtle. A melodic line may sound very basic but he's using like a handful of instrument to provide really weird contrasting undertones and what have you. What a man.
+jabbapop the last part of your judgment is true
jabbapop he composed the way Kubrick directed.
Performance ruined, should be an A, not a G... (7:17) lost my kidneys today, this music didn't help.
Not everyone likes atonal music. Enjoy it if you like it, but don't "pity" those who have different tastes in [classical] music.
Adam Kuczynski This isn’t atonal.
Exactly, Schnittke's music is full of poly stylistic phrases, that are derived from baroque music and are embellished with micro polyphony ( which can be spotted in music of Shostakovich too ) as well as bitonality/ polytonality, clusters
Differing taste is one thing, ignorance is another. This is not atonal.
@@kylej.whitehead-music309 Both things are as dislikable as the other.
snob level : 1000000
Tonality or atonality is not the problem. Even the wildest form of Berg and Schoenberg have harmony. The biggest problem with modern music as of late is that it is sadly nonharmonic.
I'm new to Schnittke, sounds like he's trying to creating "sound" rather than write a concerto (jk)
??
Yes, it's a joke, but are you telling me writing a concerto isn't creating sound?
inécoutable ! very ugly !!
Shit taste!
This is not a pianistic work in any sense. It is primarily ostinato to the strings which belch, fart, and scream, typical of Western "modern" music that is deliberately designed not to appeal to anyone except those who prefer atonal music.
The best atonal work is the Berg Violin Concerto which is a true work of atonal art.
Sorry, the "emperor has no clothes." This is just pounding block chords, with interspersed Alberti figures. My sympathies to Hamelin.
sanjosemike
Yea, yea, you try to sound wisely but by "designed not to appeal to anyone except those who prefer atonal music" you're basically saying that jam is tasty only to people who likes jam... spectacular statement...
You don't like it, it's ok, but don't try to universalize your aversion.
It has a piano, so it is a "pianistic work" in every sense! (Jeez, the ignorance!) SOMEONE didn't even listen to this...
This isn't *a*tonal in the first place. God, people hear a little dissonance and turn into music critics from 100 years ago.
+ScarcelyFantasy I love you. I cannot control my laughter.
thanks for the laugh sanjosemike, I think I needed it!
Terrible, pretentious...
Thanks for sharing your dating profile with us.
@@llanellboy lmao