VERY important , the 290% it's calculated from your weapon sub stats "Bonus attack against Colossus" roll , if the weapon doesn't have that extra stat , that 290% does nothing , so I assume the 32% firearm attack bonus it's better , but it needs to be tested. There is this Japanese speed runner that killed Defiler with Valby+Python in 19 seconds (if I'm not mistaken) and his Python had 32% firearm atk bonus in 2 slots ... I wonder if that actually stacks...
It does. Check your details page. Additive with each other, any substat roll on gun and scale by top line firearm atk for the weapon. But the main point with elemental and faction damage are they don't apply if you don't have it on the gun in some manner. Green cores don't scale skills at all.
Besides the yellow core slots, I don't see it worth going crazy for weapon stats since we mainly don't even shoot the guns to proc those stats. Unless maybe you're fighting a colossus. But most content we are using abilities while just holding the weapon for the unique ability. Let me know what you guys think in regards to that aspect. I do like the new system, but not sure about going crazy with these cores lol.
I also put mine on a Secret Garden. I’m in agreement that it was not a wasted choice, but I would have picked EL or Volta instead if I had done more research. Essentially, I saw the cost, but I didn’t check to see how the farm for the resources was. That’s on me as well.
Maybe most of us not aware yet, Any % atk Bonus to colossus or certain enemy faction doesn’t mean 290% of firearm atk, it basically increases what ever atk bonus you have in your weapon. In example if you have 3k bonus atk against colossus, then that value is the one added by 290%, if you don’t have any atk bonus roll on your weapons then it’s useless. Same with elem atk
Weapon cores are cool, but we can already beat the hardest content in the game without them. It’s just odd to me we have to farm the hardest content without these buffs to unlock these buffs so we can…do the same content again but faster?
I could have played this for another half year from the patch i never know this existed, the quest line is very bad in this or the guidance with new stuff like this, thats something the devs really should look into
PSA: MOST IF NOT ALL CORE EFFECTS DO NOT APPLY TO DESCENDANT SKILLS LIKE HAILEY'S ZENITH. FOR EXAMPLE PUTTING MORE ROUNDS ON THE PERFORATOR WITH A CORE WILL NOT INCREASE ZENITH SHOTS. Hope this is a bug and will be fixed
@@dominikb9202has little to do with this system if you already have mag size MODS (not cores) on your SG. The question is if it scales up the max# of bullets (or fire rate) and right now THEY DO NOT. If they did, it would in fact be "cracked" for stats sticks and skills descendents.
I was lucky and got 34% firearm atk on my enduring legacy in like 2 rolls 😂 24% crit hit rate & now says 1.4m dps in the info page 😊 I think it was about time they strengthened the weapons cause we had forgotten this was a 3rd person shooter game 😂
@@travisjones7953 it’s very useful in the void purge thing itself Just switch the element to whatever the enemies on that level are weak to on the artifact (like if it says they have fire shields then you want to equip ice bullets) Works really well with elites (yellow enemies) & the boss in the end
They really need to sort out drop rates on the entire game i spent an hour trying to get a single piece of ult Frenya today got every singe other thing in the drop table
My next weapon core will be used on the Voltia. Which I plan on farming today. I really wished it didn’t take 2000 or the drop rate was more. 100 400% runs isn’t fun, Defiler is a 1.5 minutes on average for me to kill. But I would really like to see the drop increased or the amount needed decreased.
@@passionsv.2 Your EL doesn’t “hit harder” than any other EL. We’ve all been here for a thousand hours at this point. We’re all using roughly the same guns with the same builds and rolls. Your EL is not special in any way.
just fyi the stats on weapon core is based on base stats. .. if enduring legacy for example has a base atk of 1000 , 10 % firearm atk on weapon core will make it 1100 as the final firearm atk. .. majority of the time we will roll on the colossus core coz firearm atk x2.9 as max roll . and the faction roll pretty much wins on his update.. sht guns will still be sht ... but op guns will become even more op now... and as they have said i dont think it works as stat stick as intended or is buggy now idk. rolling crit roll on low crit gun is pretty much pointless. if you roll 24% crit core and the base crit of weapon is 20 it increases the crit rate to 24.8 % crit rate.. if you think 4.8 increase to crit is worth the grind.. thats ur own decision.
I put a Grappling Hook cooldown core in my Cage. I rolled 0.19 out of 0.2. It really makes doing the Flying Bunny technique a breeze. Also, Denny, I'm curious, I see streamers recommend going Crit Damage on these cores. They recommend it every time. I wanna know, has anyone ACTUALLY DONE THE MATH? It Crit Damage really better for DPS than Crit Chance?
There is a cap of 0.5 (50% reduction), but its ine if the few, actually useful new things esp if you stack with the inversion buff. WRT to which stats are best- they work just like mods. Crit on a weapon with low base crit value is still shit.
The grind for this is just ridiculous. 2000 fragments just to unlock being able to grind some more for ONE weapon? What were they thinking? Thought it was a cool system to mess around with weapons, which really need help to be anything but skill stat sticks, but I completely lost interest the moment I realised how insanely grindy this is. Wow.
I only did my enduring for now with some level 7 cores, but ill wait for a while. Im stuck on stage 18, because i keep getting one shot basically with the squishy slayer build lol. Dont have any friends to help on private
Did I miss anything or why do weapons no dmg when I use them, especially on skill based characters. Still have my old Thunder Cage with mods I used before. My garden has the mag extended but otherwise crit and weapon attack. 600k dps but feels like shooting paper.
See the hardcore & high level players will get all their guns maxed out and put the best cores in and that will make the hardest content even easier “FOR THEM” And they will probably ask the devs for harder content etc etc Meanwhile casuals and myself are left behind. I can’t really engage with this system, I’m not easily killing the level 150 new giant boss (heck I don’t even know the name, is it defilier, a poison boss, I tried it with a rando matchmade group and we all got wrecked, maybe I should try solo after work) but I’m not really able to easily crush that boss and easily get 60 of these void metal fragments and I need 2000 just to craft 1 weapon thing. Man So content creators streamers will max out every gun and be more gods. That’s discouraging & kinda makes me wonder why I should keep playing. Just feels like I don’t have things to play in game as a less than god player. Anyway just my two cents.
@@EchoDoctrine No offense, but this content isnt for you then. This was made specifically for min maxing, nothing more. If you're not able to get them as easy as some of us then that means you need to spend a bit more time working on your characters and weapons, thats all. Eventually you will catch up and there is no rush, the devs are making things easier for everyone, the older content will remain easy and the newer endgame will be harder as it should be.
I agree cNille , but hey have fun , this is supposed to be END game content , you have a lot stuff to do , so , start from the easiest , the augmentations are not necessary to clear all the stuff that we had before the last update :)
@@xlK4RMAlxthey actually do sadly (except they will point to 20sec defiler kills like they are super achievable by the masses and then unironically in the next post complain about public matching and how bad people are/just want carries).
tbh weapons are still never reaching the level of descendants why would i grind and invest in a weapon when ines does 1.6m dmg per tick and then explodes aoe wiping entire cities in a click
pointless wasting resources on this until after level 30 purge has been released in Feb. all weapon cores under higher ones will be junk. i don't know why they did it like this. I wasted free unlock core and low level cores in the "tutorial" part. rolling requires an insane amount of resources and you need same resources for unlock core binder.
Thanks, Denney. I can just do the level 1, level 2, and up are only on private match, so I couldn't play it yet. So, whatever happened to all the old weapon perks, you know the one where we do at the weapon bench.. I spent alot of materials on it, did we lose those perks?
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Denny's used to be a great food spot back in the 90s I miss it
they're still open
Denneys, just wanna say that I appreciate your very no-nonsense approach to your videos. Keep it up!
Can confirm the extra mag, fire rate etc, dont work as stat sticks
So no fire rate for lepic or mag bonus for freyna?
So you can't make 24% of fire rate 9? This is really bad.
@@tylerhill3511 nope sadly, they purely to buff the weapons which i guess is fair enough
@@SimpleleleI agree it's fair but it would've been crazy if it worked lol
VERY important , the 290% it's calculated from your weapon sub stats "Bonus attack against Colossus" roll , if the weapon doesn't have that extra stat , that 290% does nothing , so I assume the 32% firearm attack bonus it's better , but it needs to be tested. There is this Japanese speed runner that killed Defiler with Valby+Python in 19 seconds (if I'm not mistaken) and his Python had 32% firearm atk bonus in 2 slots ... I wonder if that actually stacks...
It does. Check your details page.
Additive with each other, any substat roll on gun and scale by top line firearm atk for the weapon.
But the main point with elemental and faction damage are they don't apply if you don't have it on the gun in some manner.
Green cores don't scale skills at all.
@@grumpyoldman6503 Good to know , thanks for the info :)
This is good information to know. How it all works was not explained well.
honesty thought the python was for the non att resistance debuff
So most of those purple augmentations are going to be useless because rarely do people roll Faction damage on guns.
Besides the yellow core slots, I don't see it worth going crazy for weapon stats since we mainly don't even shoot the guns to proc those stats. Unless maybe you're fighting a colossus. But most content we are using abilities while just holding the weapon for the unique ability. Let me know what you guys think in regards to that aspect. I do like the new system, but not sure about going crazy with these cores lol.
just imagine they add augmentation on the components too so we can more HP and mp augment on them that would be sick I think
I put 30% sprint speed on my Secret Garden. Makes Ines feel much better considering her only speed boost is locked behind plasma buildup.
is it really noticable ? also imagine bunny with the 10% move speed mod sprint+ this 30% lol thats like 300% movespeed right there
Uh oh! Someone wasted the free core without looking to see how hard they are to grind. Lol😂
Wait, we got free cores? 😭
No worries doesnt boost your flat base stats. Not worth the grind for ke
@@Dbzwar1yeah you get a mission from the instructor robot to kill the new abyss colussus (the defiler) and you get a free core housing from that
It’s not that hard. It’s just farming defiler which takes about the same time as IW.
I also put mine on a Secret Garden. I’m in agreement that it was not a wasted choice, but I would have picked EL or Volta instead if I had done more research.
Essentially, I saw the cost, but I didn’t check to see how the farm for the resources was. That’s on me as well.
Maybe most of us not aware yet, Any % atk Bonus to colossus or certain enemy faction doesn’t mean 290% of firearm atk, it basically increases what ever atk bonus you have in your weapon. In example if you have 3k bonus atk against colossus, then that value is the one added by 290%, if you don’t have any atk bonus roll on your weapons then it’s useless. Same with elem atk
Weapon cores are cool, but we can already beat the hardest content in the game without them. It’s just odd to me we have to farm the hardest content without these buffs to unlock these buffs so we can…do the same content again but faster?
30 more Void Erosion levels in 2 weeks with leaderboards. Might be useful
@@GaryMFNoak Top 500 are all hackers 🤣🤣🤣
@@digivagrantprobably lol
Dont forget to comment later, the game is hard
This is the same gameplay loop that most arpgs have. Diablo & Monster Hunter both come to mind. The core system isn't that unusual
1:21 we have 5 lil what now?
No weapons are bot cracked xD.. it works the same as modules it doesn’t boost your base stats.. sorry but i think it is not worth the grind..
The gun from last season you can stack 4 C on if your going for attack speed or for frena half speed half mag and melt
I could have played this for another half year from the patch i never know this existed, the quest line is very bad in this or the guidance with new stuff like this, thats something the devs really should look into
PSA: MOST IF NOT ALL CORE EFFECTS DO NOT APPLY TO DESCENDANT SKILLS LIKE HAILEY'S ZENITH. FOR EXAMPLE PUTTING MORE ROUNDS ON THE PERFORATOR WITH A CORE WILL NOT INCREASE ZENITH SHOTS.
Hope this is a bug and will be fixed
I put a mag core on garden since I use it for Freyna and in the future Ines. But without duration I cant shoot all bullets.
@@dominikb9202has little to do with this system if you already have mag size MODS (not cores) on your SG.
The question is if it scales up the max# of bullets (or fire rate) and right now THEY DO NOT.
If they did, it would in fact be "cracked" for stats sticks and skills descendents.
I was lucky and got 34% firearm atk on my enduring legacy in like 2 rolls 😂
24% crit hit rate & now says 1.4m dps in the info page 😊
I think it was about time they strengthened the weapons cause we had forgotten this was a 3rd person shooter game 😂
I definitely want the 290% damage to colossus tbh. I really only use EL for bossing
@@travisjones7953 it’s very useful in the void purge thing itself
Just switch the element to whatever the enemies on that level are weak to on the artifact (like if it says they have fire shields then you want to equip ice bullets)
Works really well with elites (yellow enemies) & the boss in the end
I'm waiting for a Gley main to show off some carnage.
Same 😂
hailey thing doesnt work
surely theres a weapon that can be a stat stick for movement speed right?
They really need to sort out drop rates on the entire game i spent an hour trying to get a single piece of ult Frenya today got every singe other thing in the drop table
Use the pity system. Set what your looking for as target in access info.
My Secret Garden now has core DPS of 1.2 million. Which I do use some. I think my Enduring Legacy is over 1 million now too.
My next weapon core will be used on the Voltia. Which I plan on farming today. I really wished it didn’t take 2000 or the drop rate was more. 100 400% runs isn’t fun, Defiler is a 1.5 minutes on average for me to kill. But I would really like to see the drop increased or the amount needed decreased.
Remember the large font DPS number is exaggerated.
Look at Firearm ATK that tells you the realistic whole story.
I wouldn’t go off the “DPS” . Don’t fall into the “1mil” dps. I guarantee you my 550dps EL hits harder
@@passionsv.2 Your EL doesn’t “hit harder” than any other EL. We’ve all been here for a thousand hours at this point. We’re all using roughly the same guns with the same builds and rolls. Your EL is not special in any way.
@ please don’t fall into the DPS trap. You adding rounds isn’t making your el hit harder because it shows 1m dmg lol. Sounds like you’ve been fooled.
just fyi the stats on weapon core is based on base stats. .. if enduring legacy for example has a base atk of 1000 , 10 % firearm atk on weapon core will make it 1100 as the final firearm atk. .. majority of the time we will roll on the colossus core coz firearm atk x2.9 as max roll . and the faction roll pretty much wins on his update.. sht guns will still be sht ... but op guns will become even more op now... and as they have said i dont think it works as stat stick as intended or is buggy now idk. rolling crit roll on low crit gun is pretty much pointless. if you roll 24% crit core and the base crit of weapon is 20 it increases the crit rate to 24.8 % crit rate.. if you think 4.8 increase to crit is worth the grind.. thats ur own decision.
It works just like mods.
Would it be better to wait till further levels are unlocked?
I put a Grappling Hook cooldown core in my Cage. I rolled 0.19 out of 0.2. It really makes doing the Flying Bunny technique a breeze.
Also, Denny, I'm curious, I see streamers recommend going Crit Damage on these cores. They recommend it every time. I wanna know, has anyone ACTUALLY DONE THE MATH? It Crit Damage really better for DPS than Crit Chance?
There is a cap of 0.5 (50% reduction), but its ine if the few, actually useful new things esp if you stack with the inversion buff.
WRT to which stats are best- they work just like mods.
Crit on a weapon with low base crit value is still shit.
Flun is a breeze without it. It’s not needed at all in the slightest bit
Me who did Clairvoyance first because i main Viessa .
The grind for this is just ridiculous. 2000 fragments just to unlock being able to grind some more for ONE weapon? What were they thinking?
Thought it was a cool system to mess around with weapons, which really need help to be anything but skill stat sticks, but I completely lost interest the moment I realised how insanely grindy this is. Wow.
I only did my enduring for now with some level 7 cores, but ill wait for a while. Im stuck on stage 18, because i keep getting one shot basically with the squishy slayer build lol. Dont have any friends to help on private
Did I miss anything or why do weapons no dmg when I use them, especially on skill based characters. Still have my old Thunder Cage with mods I used before.
My garden has the mag extended but otherwise crit and weapon attack. 600k dps but feels like shooting paper.
What missions you doing?
I hope Nexon looks at this, the only way to get cores is do hardest content. I’m out. 400% dungeons for just 20 & you need 2000. Nope.
See the hardcore & high level players will get all their guns maxed out and put the best cores in and that will make the hardest content even easier “FOR THEM”
And they will probably ask the devs for harder content etc etc
Meanwhile casuals and myself are left behind. I can’t really engage with this system, I’m not easily killing the level 150 new giant boss (heck I don’t even know the name, is it defilier, a poison boss, I tried it with a rando matchmade group and we all got wrecked, maybe I should try solo after work) but I’m not really able to easily crush that boss and easily get 60 of these void metal fragments and I need 2000 just to craft 1 weapon thing. Man
So content creators streamers will max out every gun and be more gods.
That’s discouraging & kinda makes me wonder why I should keep playing. Just feels like I don’t have things to play in game as a less than god player.
Anyway just my two cents.
@@EchoDoctrine No offense, but this content isnt for you then. This was made specifically for min maxing, nothing more. If you're not able to get them as easy as some of us then that means you need to spend a bit more time working on your characters and weapons, thats all. Eventually you will catch up and there is no rush, the devs are making things easier for everyone, the older content will remain easy and the newer endgame will be harder as it should be.
@@cNilleso u think it’s reasonable to run 100 god damn dungeons? Lmfao
I agree cNille , but hey have fun , this is supposed to be END game content , you have a lot stuff to do , so , start from the easiest , the augmentations are not necessary to clear all the stuff that we had before the last update :)
@@xlK4RMAlxthey actually do sadly (except they will point to 20sec defiler kills like they are super achievable by the masses and then unironically in the next post complain about public matching and how bad people are/just want carries).
I like to imagine you used to be a greeter at Denny's.
tbh weapons are still never reaching the level of descendants why would i grind and invest in a weapon when ines does 1.6m dmg per tick and then explodes aoe wiping entire cities in a click
pointless wasting resources on this until after level 30 purge has been released in Feb. all weapon cores under higher ones will be junk. i don't know why they did it like this. I wasted free unlock core and low level cores in the "tutorial" part. rolling requires an insane amount of resources and you need same resources for unlock core binder.
Great video
I chose SG for free core slot because my main desc is Freyna anyway so why not
2000 is tooo much if boss give 60 and from missions 20
Considering defiler can take 50 seconds to two minutes being and giving any where from 55-70 shards its not too bad
ATK=ATTACK. ATTACK is quicker to say.
THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW I WASNT SURE
Thanks, Denney. I can just do the level 1, level 2, and up are only on private match, so I couldn't play it yet.
So, whatever happened to all the old weapon perks, you know the one where we do at the weapon bench.. I spent alot of materials on it, did we lose those perks?
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You have to kill Defiler? Count me out.
No. Just fight him and die. Counts for the quest to complete.
Defiler is the quickest way to get red Abyss materials, even better if ur randoms are competent.
Well you can do 100 400% dungeons instead. 😂
2000 per core, 400s drop 20/run. Defiler ~55 each kill (varies a bit).
Defiler you can take him down sub 2 min on bun and around 30 s on ines if you build her for it
@tylerhill3511 and then repeat that 10000 times. Sounds compelling as "end game" activity. 🤔
The resource needs are absolutely ridiculous. Not even remotely interested.