One man's trash, is another man's treasure. One man's cringe, is another man's cool. One man's joke, is another man's best f-ing ratatouille they've ever had in their entire life making them have a flashback to eating their mother's ratatouille. Perspective.
"He's Shadow Incarnation of Vengeance Entity of the Night Slayer of Pussys The man fucks without losing his virginity BECAUSE HE NEVER LOSES" Man this one is easily one of my favorites.
Okay, I'm actually having so much fun watching your reaction cause most people are cringing but you, my guy, are just going "hell yeah no regrets" while decked out in weeb shit and we need more of this!!
Yeah a couple of EiS fans didn't like Gigguk's video lol.. EiS is a weird show.. It's entertaining but it's not conventional entertaining where there's obvious plot, obvious character development etc. It's like he's sorta pandering to the masses by saying EiS isn't a great show but still explaining describing how he enjoys it. Because it's hard to justify on the outset i guess. A lot of people forget at it's core anime is entertainment and that the only thing a show HAS to be is entertaining.. It doesn't have to follow a textbook structure of what justifies good.
@@nonlethalnukeyeah agree with you here but the first comment just meant that in our current generation there are people to show off their prowess get too picky and just give unjust evaluations to entertainment as a theme. Like Morbius as a movie not a great show but look at the global meme it followed 😂. Each shows have their way of leaving their mark.
I liked the comparison of EiS to a kind of Isekai One punch man due to the fact that he's not the center of the story everyone around is also the center of the story, and that's is what makes me love the anime (I also have the manga)
I love Cid as a character. He's not a dense romance MC with a Harem. The girls actually have a real motivation for following him other than him calling them cute once before. Plus, they are actually useful. Cid may have created shadow garden but the girls made shadow garden what it is. He's OP but actually trained his 2 lives to get that way. He openly states he's not the Hero so why expect heroic stuff from him? He is Chunni and he does his Chunni thing. Is he really dense? I honestly have no idea yet. Shadow does come across as all-knowing and I'm not sure if that's reality using Cid as much as he affects reality. The world/history building is top-notch. The characters, even the side ones, have their own motivations and actually act accordingly. The anime is top notch with high quality background scenes. And the score. The OST's for this anime are replayable and memorable. The way the story reacts to Shadow is also wayyyyy better than most power fantasys. MC does some OP shite, other characters blink or gasp, never bring it up again. This story at least has the world reacting to what Shadow does.
On the 20th episodes, when Cid getting pissed by Iris and he's going to do an *Atomic*. His younger past actually say "yamero"(please stop), so i think his unconscious sense was warning him to not become a villain by destroy a country just because a girl make him run amok.
Love this show. There is CId who makes up but has no clue what's going on. Shadow Garden and Cult who know what's going on. And the rest who wonders what the F is going on. Season 2 is gonna be great.
I think the usage of the word "trash" is almost a branding for these guys since they are on a podcast called Trash Taste. It kind of comes off as some backhanded compliment from a place of anime snobbery like they are just too refined to actually call the anime what it is. Great. I rarely re-watch anything. WIth this show I watched it all again after the last episode aired.
Honestly, the Mushoko tensei manga is leagues behind the anime and novel in quality. If you have the time or want to take the time i'd recommend reading the light novel
Just one question, why is there the goat in the thumbnail but it's not on the original thumbnail from the video that Gigguk made? Was there any reason you do this or no it was just for fun? I'm asking for pure curiosity, of course.
Eminence is lazy writing done so well it works 1. Cid is ignorant edge lord who wants to be the edgiest lord to ever edge lord and the writing allows it to be 2. Instead of giving the shadow garden women real names they are alpha to 666 3. Perv asshat is a name I loved eminence like i loved one punch man the animation was amazing, the music top tier, and the story blended with both so well
The issue with Gigguk's video is that he still tries to appeal to the elitists of the anime community, instead of being like TEIS where it's unapologetic full send every time. He says it's trash because it has all the ingredients of what usually makes an isekai trash, despite one of the aforementioned "classics" (and even Overlord) having the same ingredients. It's to appease that elitist part of the anime community. That's why you're thrown off by some of those statements, because it's like he's saying it's crap. Shows like Mushoku Tensei, Re:Zero, and Tensura are all good. But they all follow a conventional formula, and since that conventional formula is coupled with great art and animation, excellent sfx, memorable ost, they're considered classics. TEIS completely bucks that trend with animation budget that got sacrificed for the gacha, ost that was too in-jokey to be considered good by the casuals, and an unconventional formula for telling a story. Cid doesn't develop as a person like Rudy, Subaru, and Rimuru. Shadow Garden completely skips the typical development portion of the isekai where the MC displays Earth/game knowledge to the more primitive natives that usually takes up an arc or two. Cid's OPness doesn't lend much to actual stakes in the narrative. That's what makes it "trash", that's what makes it not part of the classics. Still has excellent sfx though, "I am Atomic" is permanently now part of anime lingo going forward. But just like how the Super Mario Movie got panned by critics and is now on its way to earn 1 billion dollars at the box office despite initially forecasted to only earn as much as Sonic 1, TEIS took an unconventional route that nobody took, to the same amount of success. It took what was cringe about the isekai tensei genre and made it entertaining. Cid is Cringe the Personality. Critics and anime elitists are the same, they'll tell you that it's only when a story is taken seriously that a story becomes good. They're wrong; it's when you get invested in the characters that makes a story good, regardless if the story is serious or not. Gigguk says it himself, that there comes a point where you take Cid's BS seriously. Lee even says it himself, that he started getting invested around Rose's arc. That makes TEIS a good story despite not having the ingredients that makes a story serious. Otherwise nobody would like anime like OPM. All in all I do think that TEIS is an isekai classic, which is where I disagree with Gigguk. He worries too much about what people would think; he should tell them that MT and Overlord have underdeveloped harem members too and those are considered classics. Just because Cid doesn't develop himself doesn't mean that the author forgot to develop the world. A big part of TEIS' humor lies in how characters develop through Cid's BS, sometimes even regress (hello Sherry). In fact if you think about it, Cid's effect on the world is achieved by his hard work, in both the combat and extracurricular arts (acting, painting, music, cooking, etc). The way that the "classics" affect the world is more common, special inborn qualities like Laplace Factor, Return By Death, Great Sage, stuff that Cid doesn't have. It's why Alexia called his sword style ordinary. Cid looks ordinary enough to pass as a background character. The one who will inherit the house is Claire, not him. The nearest shounen protagonist analogous to Shadow is Asta. No special father, no special genetics, no hidden demons, no berserk button...just plain hard work. Cid is a harder MC to write than the other MCs and that to me is why I think TEIS is a runaway isekai classic.
@@nonlethalnukewow ikr how many essays and fan boy scripts of Mushoko or the other big three fans have I seen already. You might be displeased with someone praising a show they like but pls make a better comparison ( no hard feelings here since I like the big three and this show)
@@pawnee2419 i think what people are failing to realize is that entertainment and enjoyment don’t make something good. eminence in shadow is the king of this category of guilty pleasure anime. and i’m not saying i think EiS is poorly written or anything. it just isn’t of the same quality as the other three, and honestly i don’t get the impression it aspires to be anyway. it’s not the niche it’s trying to occupy.
@@nonlethalnuke well I understand you have your values or importance on what makes a story great and your point of view is correct. However you see nowadays so many shows oversaturate the market that several plot lines u can argue have been overused or has been done already. This author when he began the web novel was a new author and stated that this his work on his fantasy. The release date for one volume was slow like one year or two per volume cause he was having issues writing ( like u mentioned). Think of it as a rookies work, you see from an accomplished author and a brand new talent there is a huge difference however new talents always bring something unique to the table. This has only 5 volume so far unlike the other big three more established with 15 plus volume each, and trust me reading the latest volume the writing, maturity and plot has gotten so much better and well placed. This season was like an intro. We have yet to see so many stuff. We only focused on one country and a small trip outside. You’re yet to see what makes the show great. If you give it more time with more season I bet you my honour on reading multiple japanese fantasy novel that this show will be among ur favourite to come.
@@nonlethalnuke I'm a fan of those works too. But Eminence hasn't been done in the isekai genre before, and the "Big 3" aren't perfect either. None of them are.
Eminence got a lot of crap from people with no taste who couldn't appreciate it. I feel like Gigguk was trying far too hard to preempt their criticism in this video.
My guess is Gigguk just hates isekai anime and/or hates anime that gets a lot of hype to the point where he doesn't know good ones from trash ones and that's why they thinks this great anime is trash. That or they just have bad taste in general when it comes to anime.
There are better fantasy and isekai anime than TEIS, but there aren't many better music anime than Bocchi. I understand Gigguk's opinion on that. Like hell, the Bocchi the Rock official album was the #1 seller in Japan for 7 straight weeks, of ALL music - think of how many jpop and jrock bands there are. BTR's album beat all of them, for 7 straight weeks. People love that show.
Never read mushoku tensei manga. Go for the novels. The manga is not good Manga skips stuff. Changes the tone of other scenes. Overall its not on the Standart the anime and the light novel are
Personally I dont like Gigguk and his take here is particularly moronic. The Eminence in Shadow and trash do not belong in the same sentence. It's an amazing anime and I have no trouble saying that it is absolutely one of my favorite anime ever. I've watched most of the good and some of the passably watchable anime in the last 3 seasons and TEIS is objectively better than most of them in numerous categories. To say it's not memorable is also quite stupid, for me at least it's the most memorable anime of the Fall/Winter season in which it aired. To suggest that something like Slime is 'brilliant' while denigrating TEIS is also laughable, I literally cant remember a single thing that happened in Slime, it's incredibly overrated and closer to a 'trash isekai' than TEIS. I would easily put TEIS over both Slime and Re:Zero. Gigguk's video is the result of being too snobby and pretentious it admit something is good because you're afraid that people might look down on you for your opinion. Kaguya is great and I'm sure Bocchi is good even though I havent seen it, but this idea that only romance anime, super dark and depressing anime or anime about cute girls doing cute things are high brow enough to deserve being called good is idiotic.
Ngl he isn't wrong, eminence in shadow is trashy, just trashy done right, you don't need any form of brain cells or understanding to find it entertaining, re:zero, Mushuko tensei and slime are all better stories but they aren't really for all, eminence in shadow is alot more everyone friendly except if you generally hate powerfantasy and yes, it is a more forgettable show than any of the 3 i mentioned
One man's trash, is another man's treasure. One man's cringe, is another man's cool. One man's joke, is another man's best f-ing ratatouille they've ever had in their entire life making them have a flashback to eating their mother's ratatouille. Perspective.
Facts
Not only is it funny, it can also get serious and really cool. That's why Gigguk's comparison to One Punch Man is very correct.
It’s not funny. It’s beyond cringe and painful to watch.
@@inoc6661 Bro if u think this is cringe and hard to watch, u must've not watched Watamote.
@@inoc6661 then why are you here
@@narutoUzumaki-et8ux my question exactly.
People who watch content they don't like are forever weird to me
@@inoc6661 ain't no way a tokyo revenger fans talking about cringe
"He's Shadow
Incarnation of Vengeance
Entity of the Night Slayer of Pussys
The man fucks without losing his virginity BECAUSE HE NEVER LOSES"
Man this one is easily one of my favorites.
Okay, I'm actually having so much fun watching your reaction cause most people are cringing but you, my guy, are just going "hell yeah no regrets" while decked out in weeb shit and we need more of this!!
Lmao. I didn’t even register that it should be cringe ha
@@YaBoyRockLeeShow i envy you cause i was incredibly judged growing up, but i hope i can be as unrestrained and free as you someday
Yeah a couple of EiS fans didn't like Gigguk's video lol..
EiS is a weird show.. It's entertaining but it's not conventional entertaining where there's obvious plot, obvious character development etc.
It's like he's sorta pandering to the masses by saying EiS isn't a great show but still explaining describing how he enjoys it. Because it's hard to justify on the outset i guess.
A lot of people forget at it's core anime is entertainment and that the only thing a show HAS to be is entertaining.. It doesn't have to follow a textbook structure of what justifies good.
Well said. I almost flipped too lol. Had to rewind
I think people forget that entertainment isn't exempt from criticism, too
not being a great show and still being entertaining are not mutually exclusive and that’s where EiS falls
@@nonlethalnukeyeah agree with you here but the first comment just meant that in our current generation there are people to show off their prowess get too picky and just give unjust evaluations to entertainment as a theme. Like Morbius as a movie not a great show but look at the global meme it followed 😂. Each shows have their way of leaving their mark.
I liked the comparison of EiS to a kind of Isekai One punch man due to the fact that he's not the center of the story everyone around is also the center of the story, and that's is what makes me love the anime (I also have the manga)
You got the novels to? That’s cool man, hope you enjoy ‘em! I’m currently rereading the 3rd novel myself.
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
yall have definitely beccome my favoritereactors to watch
Thank you
It’s because of this show I went and bought one of those “grip strengtheners” and I keep it at my desk at work
I love Cid as a character. He's not a dense romance MC with a Harem. The girls actually have a real motivation for following him other than him calling them cute once before. Plus, they are actually useful. Cid may have created shadow garden but the girls made shadow garden what it is. He's OP but actually trained his 2 lives to get that way. He openly states he's not the Hero so why expect heroic stuff from him? He is Chunni and he does his Chunni thing. Is he really dense? I honestly have no idea yet. Shadow does come across as all-knowing and I'm not sure if that's reality using Cid as much as he affects reality. The world/history building is top-notch. The characters, even the side ones, have their own motivations and actually act accordingly. The anime is top notch with high quality background scenes. And the score. The OST's for this anime are replayable and memorable. The way the story reacts to Shadow is also wayyyyy better than most power fantasys. MC does some OP shite, other characters blink or gasp, never bring it up again. This story at least has the world reacting to what Shadow does.
0:26 "Nothing has touched me" i dunno why i laughed at that. Lol
14:08 probably the most accurate way to describe it
1:00 bro better send that thing back 😭😹
I love it man.. i want more of this
On the 20th episodes, when Cid getting pissed by Iris and he's going to do an *Atomic*.
His younger past actually say "yamero"(please stop), so i think his unconscious sense was warning him to not become a villain by destroy a country just because a girl make him run amok.
Love this show. There is CId who makes up but has no clue what's going on. Shadow Garden and Cult who know what's going on. And the rest who wonders what the F is going on. Season 2 is gonna be great.
19:58 he finally experienced what it feels like to be one of us manga readers🤣
Finally ha
I've read all 4 volumes and can't wait to read the 5th when it came out.
I've only seen 2 eps but it was enough for me to get that the show sells subversion of tropes and the "it should've been me not him" meme.
Eminence in Shadow season 2 is probably coming out in Fall 2023. You can quote me on it, even if this prediction goes horribly wrong.
Hidive announced that they secured the rights for it for this year so......
based take, love that u got this
Eminence In Shadow is so dope. I hope you can get your wife to watch it and rereact the show again
I think the usage of the word "trash" is almost a branding for these guys since they are on a podcast called Trash Taste. It kind of comes off as some backhanded compliment from a place of anime snobbery like they are just too refined to actually call the anime what it is. Great. I rarely re-watch anything. WIth this show I watched it all again after the last episode aired.
Yes giggukkk
Honestly, the Mushoko tensei manga is leagues behind the anime and novel in quality. If you have the time or want to take the time i'd recommend reading the light novel
You could put a piece of tape over the back of that Mushoku tensei book.
truth, but the point was to show that lol
It's isekai one punch man 100% explains the show.
I assume you heard S2 will start this year/2023 per H*DI*E?
seems like it, they really made a really hidden way of confirming it though so just scared it was a typo lol
Just one question, why is there the goat in the thumbnail but it's not on the original thumbnail from the video that Gigguk made? Was there any reason you do this or no it was just for fun? I'm asking for pure curiosity, of course.
Just for fun for me. I didn’t expect anyone to care haha
@@YaBoyRockLeeShow yeah because when I was watching the video , this question go trough my head like randomly 😂😂thanks for responding have a great day
@@roxas1237 ha
Did you read the Overlord light novels?
Na.
Eminence is lazy writing done so well it works
1. Cid is ignorant edge lord who wants to be the edgiest lord to ever edge lord and the writing allows it to be
2. Instead of giving the shadow garden women real names they are alpha to 666
3. Perv asshat is a name
I loved eminence like i loved one punch man the animation was amazing, the music top tier, and the story blended with both so well
Dead sea joke had me dead
Have u watch his last vid? About the dog show? Director reacted to it too
yes
gonna post later
The issue with Gigguk's video is that he still tries to appeal to the elitists of the anime community, instead of being like TEIS where it's unapologetic full send every time. He says it's trash because it has all the ingredients of what usually makes an isekai trash, despite one of the aforementioned "classics" (and even Overlord) having the same ingredients. It's to appease that elitist part of the anime community. That's why you're thrown off by some of those statements, because it's like he's saying it's crap.
Shows like Mushoku Tensei, Re:Zero, and Tensura are all good. But they all follow a conventional formula, and since that conventional formula is coupled with great art and animation, excellent sfx, memorable ost, they're considered classics. TEIS completely bucks that trend with animation budget that got sacrificed for the gacha, ost that was too in-jokey to be considered good by the casuals, and an unconventional formula for telling a story. Cid doesn't develop as a person like Rudy, Subaru, and Rimuru. Shadow Garden completely skips the typical development portion of the isekai where the MC displays Earth/game knowledge to the more primitive natives that usually takes up an arc or two. Cid's OPness doesn't lend much to actual stakes in the narrative. That's what makes it "trash", that's what makes it not part of the classics. Still has excellent sfx though, "I am Atomic" is permanently now part of anime lingo going forward.
But just like how the Super Mario Movie got panned by critics and is now on its way to earn 1 billion dollars at the box office despite initially forecasted to only earn as much as Sonic 1, TEIS took an unconventional route that nobody took, to the same amount of success. It took what was cringe about the isekai tensei genre and made it entertaining. Cid is Cringe the Personality. Critics and anime elitists are the same, they'll tell you that it's only when a story is taken seriously that a story becomes good. They're wrong; it's when you get invested in the characters that makes a story good, regardless if the story is serious or not. Gigguk says it himself, that there comes a point where you take Cid's BS seriously. Lee even says it himself, that he started getting invested around Rose's arc. That makes TEIS a good story despite not having the ingredients that makes a story serious. Otherwise nobody would like anime like OPM.
All in all I do think that TEIS is an isekai classic, which is where I disagree with Gigguk. He worries too much about what people would think; he should tell them that MT and Overlord have underdeveloped harem members too and those are considered classics. Just because Cid doesn't develop himself doesn't mean that the author forgot to develop the world. A big part of TEIS' humor lies in how characters develop through Cid's BS, sometimes even regress (hello Sherry). In fact if you think about it, Cid's effect on the world is achieved by his hard work, in both the combat and extracurricular arts (acting, painting, music, cooking, etc). The way that the "classics" affect the world is more common, special inborn qualities like Laplace Factor, Return By Death, Great Sage, stuff that Cid doesn't have. It's why Alexia called his sword style ordinary. Cid looks ordinary enough to pass as a background character. The one who will inherit the house is Claire, not him. The nearest shounen protagonist analogous to Shadow is Asta. No special father, no special genetics, no hidden demons, no berserk button...just plain hard work. Cid is a harder MC to write than the other MCs and that to me is why I think TEIS is a runaway isekai classic.
EIS fans will write a full novel trying to justify it being in the same conversation as the big 3 of isekai
@@nonlethalnukewow ikr how many essays and fan boy scripts of Mushoko or the other big three fans have I seen already. You might be displeased with someone praising a show they like but pls make a better comparison ( no hard feelings here since I like the big three and this show)
@@pawnee2419 i think what people are failing to realize is that entertainment and enjoyment don’t make something good. eminence in shadow is the king of this category of guilty pleasure anime. and i’m not saying i think EiS is poorly written or anything. it just isn’t of the same quality as the other three, and honestly i don’t get the impression it aspires to be anyway. it’s not the niche it’s trying to occupy.
@@nonlethalnuke well I understand you have your values or importance on what makes a story great and your point of view is correct. However you see nowadays so many shows oversaturate the market that several plot lines u can argue have been overused or has been done already. This author when he began the web novel was a new author and stated that this his work on his fantasy. The release date for one volume was slow like one year or two per volume cause he was having issues writing ( like u mentioned).
Think of it as a rookies work, you see from an accomplished author and a brand new talent there is a huge difference however new talents always bring something unique to the table. This has only 5 volume so far unlike the other big three more established with 15 plus volume each, and trust me reading the latest volume the writing, maturity and plot has gotten so much better and well placed.
This season was like an intro. We have yet to see so many stuff. We only focused on one country and a small trip outside. You’re yet to see what makes the show great. If you give it more time with more season I bet you my honour on reading multiple japanese fantasy novel that this show will be among ur favourite to come.
@@nonlethalnuke I'm a fan of those works too. But Eminence hasn't been done in the isekai genre before, and the "Big 3" aren't perfect either. None of them are.
Eminence got a lot of crap from people with no taste who couldn't appreciate it. I feel like Gigguk was trying far too hard to preempt their criticism in this video.
My guess is Gigguk just hates isekai anime and/or hates anime that gets a lot of hype to the point where he doesn't know good ones from trash ones and that's why they thinks this great anime is trash. That or they just have bad taste in general when it comes to anime.
Shadow probably the most cringe MC of all🤣 + ridiculous plot armor.
There are better fantasy and isekai anime than TEIS, but there aren't many better music anime than Bocchi. I understand Gigguk's opinion on that. Like hell, the Bocchi the Rock official album was the #1 seller in Japan for 7 straight weeks, of ALL music - think of how many jpop and jrock bands there are. BTR's album beat all of them, for 7 straight weeks. People love that show.
It's trash done great
Never read mushoku tensei manga.
Go for the novels. The manga is not good
Manga skips stuff. Changes the tone of other scenes. Overall its not on the Standart the anime and the light novel are
Personally I dont like Gigguk and his take here is particularly moronic. The Eminence in Shadow and trash do not belong in the same sentence. It's an amazing anime and I have no trouble saying that it is absolutely one of my favorite anime ever. I've watched most of the good and some of the passably watchable anime in the last 3 seasons and TEIS is objectively better than most of them in numerous categories.
To say it's not memorable is also quite stupid, for me at least it's the most memorable anime of the Fall/Winter season in which it aired. To suggest that something like Slime is 'brilliant' while denigrating TEIS is also laughable, I literally cant remember a single thing that happened in Slime, it's incredibly overrated and closer to a 'trash isekai' than TEIS. I would easily put TEIS over both Slime and Re:Zero.
Gigguk's video is the result of being too snobby and pretentious it admit something is good because you're afraid that people might look down on you for your opinion. Kaguya is great and I'm sure Bocchi is good even though I havent seen it, but this idea that only romance anime, super dark and depressing anime or anime about cute girls doing cute things are high brow enough to deserve being called good is idiotic.
lmao no it's a trash fantasy full of cliche
When you said you would easily put this over Re:zero, i stopped reading
@@MonkeySaiyans Awesome, you're welcome to your shit taste in anime.
this is one of the most moronic things I have ever read. you are literally one of the edgy 13 year Olds gigguk talks about
Ngl he isn't wrong, eminence in shadow is trashy, just trashy done right, you don't need any form of brain cells or understanding to find it entertaining, re:zero, Mushuko tensei and slime are all better stories but they aren't really for all, eminence in shadow is alot more everyone friendly except if you generally hate powerfantasy and yes, it is a more forgettable show than any of the 3 i mentioned