Both graphic & performance modes are unnecessary piece of crap caused by incompetent developers who don't know how to optimize their games, period. If Square-Enix hired a team that are half as good as those who developed The Last of Us or Horizon Zero Dawn then we won't have to deal with all this bs in 2024. As things stand right now most people gonna have to wait another year to play on PC (the way it's meant to be played)
In dont get why they just dont Set the Resolution to 1080p or 2k and tweak the settings to make it run on 60fps . Those dynamic Resolutions are horrible.
I hate that people say "its time for a ps5 pro" no, its time for square enix to optimize their games better and stop resting on their laurels. Insomniac and everyone else can do it, look at the Spiderman games.
I don't really even feel the problem is the PS5 or limitations. But I feel it's devs not using what we now have. Fsr 2.0 or 3.0 would easily fix the blurry looking 60fps. And iv seen plenty of 60fps games that look and run fine on ps5. I just feel devs don't use the tools they have to make games look and preform better. Even if a ps5 pro drops I doubt they would hardly take advantage of it.
@@metroplex29 Exactly I mean look at fortnite that game has a massive open map runs using unreal 5 with all the fixtures including ray tracing at 60fps. It's definitely possible to do better. Spiderman and other games do well as well. I just feel lots of devs have gotten use to making games run at 30fps . Not to mention we still see lots of games being made for ps4. This generation has been extremely slow and disappointing. And all I hear is people wanting new technology. When games don't even utilize what's available.
I wish 30fps mode had an option for motion blur. As there is none and it feels choppy. But on 60fps mode its blurry as heck. It is slightly better than it was originally in the demo but not much. They could drop some other setting to allow resolution to come up. It feels horrible for sure. One tip for 30fps mode that helped me if you are on a monitor switch the response time of the pixels to be slower so that it adds some 'blur' to fill in those 30 fps gaps. Sad to see a seemingly amazing game held back by either of its graphical modes... there is no great way to play
I have a jutter and blur reduction option on my TV, thank god, adds very minor input delay I think, but makes a world of difference. If I turn those options off and run default 30fps it feels choppy and atrocious. Would be nice if they could do a 40fps VRR mode.
To the many people who see this video and thing performance mode isn't that bad: I invite you to see for yourself by downloading the demo. It is incredibly blurry. It is no exaggeration.
@@HAA2k i have the game and its very fun it deff is game of the year for me even do it just started😂 on graphics mode it actually is very similar to ff16 just not AS smooth on performance not gonna lie it looks very blurry for me personally unplayable but i think its a bug cause i found a fix you put ps5 on 1440p then play performance mode for ff7 rebirth and everything looks much sharper😂
@@HAA2k btw afther seeing the sheer scope of the game where you can see soooooo much into the horizon i understand why it looks less good then jedi this game world looks massive with incredible view distance
Having my tv at a reasonable distance and having my tv sharpining on at 10 it looks alright, I swore I will never go back to 30fps and am happy for it. @@fastica
The 30 fps mode feels horrible at first glace but once you get adjusted it's worth it. With exception of maybe a tough boss fight or areas ur grinding.
@@MikeRavia-xp5ig U do but can take a break from it once in a while. Its what to expect from a console title. A majority of next gen games are like this. Blurry quality or 30 fps. The only compromise is 120 Hz Fidelity mode but Square is not implimenting it. Or AMD FSR but they dont care to support it
To be honest, I never noticed the blurry lines in Performance Mode. But I do hope in maybe a future update, they fix the Graphics frames per second. But so far, it’s a really fun game
No it does not, it should be able to run at 60 fps with good looking graphics. There is no excuse for this other than lazy devs, even the first game had a better performance mode. Don't drop your standards just cuz the devs were lazy.
@@mbouzubarThere is A LOT more to render in this than VIIR, it's far more demanding, you're crazy if you think otherwise. Consider plague tale Requiem, it's 60fps was capped 1080p even when they made a bunch of other compromises, it's graphics mode maxed at 1440p 30fps, but did support 40 with VRR. I would say 7 rebirth is certainly on par at times in busier sections though, but overall, does not seem as demanding? (I don't have system requirements, but the fact that rebirth can hit like 4k-1800? Upper limit at 30fps when plague tale doesn't even scare that, leads me to believe that's the case) but still performance mode should be WAAYY better and could be improved (heck, just make it not blurry), I feel a 40fps mode is a more realistic compromise or alternative. Enix is renowned for being pretty bad at optimisation, then mix that with unreal engine being pretty bad to optimize also. Not likely much will get done to fix it, but fingers crossed. Cyberpunk is another example, it's extremely dense, a lot going on, and runs great. Rebirth in comparison, is mainly "empty" in this case (for the most part, there is dense locations) no crazy dynamic npc systems or anything, it's likely not very taxing on CPU at all..... Who knows what's chugging their resources.
@@everilliem3292 plague tale Requiem was a graphical wonder though and cross-platform. This game was made for the PS5. So they should make the game run great on the console first and foremost. Instead of trying to push graphics at the cost of performance.
I would primarily play on performance mode if cutscenes were also not scaled down, so ill do my first run on 4k 30, there subsequent runs will be on performance, i want my initial playthruogh to look as intended plus you kind of just get used to 30 after about an hour of playtime
I almost always go with performance modes in games but I went with quality here and never looked back. The blurry visuals in perf mode are atrocious. It legitimately hurts my eyes. It only took a few min to get used to 30 FPS.
Personally 30fps isn’t even an option for me. I played the demo for the first time ever (post patch) on performance mode and thought it looked spectacular. When these tech reviews zoom in on objects in the distance it looks awful, but that’s not actually reality. It also points out something casual gamers might not even notice in the first place. I don’t consider myself casual, but if something looks good to me that’s all I need (I may be a bit biased towards this game in particular since it was a life changing experience for me in 1997) I really think it’s a nitpick. So many people want to say “it’s like Vaseline is smeared all over the screen”, yeah okay pal.
Anyone who isn't naive can spot the difference right away, the zoom in mode just proves there's a huge gap in visual Fidelity. Its the same reason why the trailers for this game don't do it justice in compressed 1080p TH-cam quality. Square admitted to using more expensive assets for this game, bragging about how the game could handle it, clearly it cannot unless u want to play in 1990's framerate. Which must be done if you want beautiful graphics instead of below average. Even the Quality mode dips down quite low some times, making it's visual fidelity comparable to the performance mode on Remake, only at half the framerate
Horizon forbidden west had this same issue on launch and it eventually got fixed i hope square enix fixes this because there is no reason a next gen game shouldnt be able to hold itself on performance mode
The issue is that it looks even more blurry on a 4K screen since downscaling is also stretching the pixels out. If the native resolution is 1080P it does look better but since i use a 4K screen it is very noticable. Which takes me out of the experience. And i don't like to play games with only 30 FPS it feels clunky to me. But i guess that's the things are.
The prob with 4k/30fps to me is that once the camera is moving the 30fps makes the game look blurry anyway... Seriously though, for anybody who only only play games on consoles and expect the most graphically demanding games to run in 4k/60fps, you really should be playing games on PC (obviously this game is only PS5 but it means you would have to wait for it to possibly come to PC). Hell, even with PC's it is just now getting more common for the topmost specs to be able to run these graphically high end games at 4k/60fps, So expecting the current gen consoles to do so is quite absurd.
This has been such a weird generation. So many games with such low image quality that they end up looking worse than cross-gen games despite their numerous graphical improvements. I just finished Remake the other day and Rebirth looks like a downgrade in performance mode simply because it's so blurry.
oh man the performance mode is gadawfully look bad into days game i cant play 30fps now its hard for me.. and i dont understand myself how the hell ive be able to play 30 fps on ps4 before....and now my eyes cant handle 30 fps, i hope they can update it more..like the blurriness is isnane character models are blurred should they remove japanese so no blurr? i mean FF 16 is looking good are they diff engines?
@@OpenSurprise One thing I did noticed in the updated demo (which I assume is what final game will be) Graphics Mode actually looked better and it seems the UI/HUD was now finally in 4K. In the first demo the HUD seemed almost grainy and lacked clarity but wasn't the case after the update.
False info : the performance mode actually runs at 1440p according to pixel counts by df, the problem is that they are using a horrible upscaling method , maybe fsr 1 like they did in final fantasy 16.
I like how they are obviously considering this for PC release, and making it so you can still get the most out of it even if you do choose performance.
i dont care about blurry/ performance mode or graphic mode,. i'm just glad square enix make this remake..... imagine square enix not remake this game, maybe ff7 remake & rebirth it's just a myth : D
Exactly and tbh Square enix is still here as a company for doing this remake project because if u remember they were dead in the water in 2015 but when this got announced everything was ok for Square enix they basically pressed the panic button hoping this would work and it did
I just want to say that these problems are probably more noticeable the closer you are to whatever monitor or television screen you're gaming on. For those who prefer the 60 frames but can't stand the graphic down scale, try sitting further away from your screen. For those playing on Quality mode for the 4k graphics and 30 frames, give the game an hour or so of playtime, and your brain will most likely stop noticing it. For those with motion sickness, 60 is the way to go, and for those who don't have that issue, 30 is just fine. Last thoughts on this is our eyes take in information at around 24 to 25 frames per second, so 30 should be more than enough, in theory, at least.
Why do people keep insisting on this nonsense about our eyes only seeing so much information? There is clear perceptible night and day difference between 30fps and 60fps. I've played dozens of AAA games at 60fps+ since I last forced myself through a 30fps title (TLOU2 on PS4 Pro in 2020) as 30 just looks choppy and feels less responsive nowadays -- even more since I've upgraded both my TV and Monitor to OLED panels. I cannot go back to the tinny in-built TV speakers or 21 inch screens of my younger years and I cannot go back to 30fps. Also, the graphics are not the problem here. It's the garbage post-processing they've used that makes character models and textures appear far lower res than they actually are. Why can't you people say 'I've not an issue with it, but I can see that you do. Hopefully they find a workaround '. Instead it's just a flat refusal that somebody else may experience gaming differently and sandbagging for billion dollar companies too stingy to optimise properly.
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 , my brother, I hear you loud and clear. Yes, some may not have an issue with it, but some clearly do. I was just merely trying to provide troubleshooting. However, if you watch live action movies, then you should know those movies are filmed in 24 frames per second unless they're doing a special shot for a slow motion scene.
@@TheBlakReaper 24fps became the standard for cinema because it was deemed the lowest possible you could go before motion between frames could begin to resemble that of a flickbook to the viewer. They aimed for this because film stock back in the days was very expensive to procure, so it made little sense to shoot more frames that necessary. It's a misnomer that 24fps, or 30fps, is "the sweet spot" or that we cannot perceive above it and that it therefore should be accepted for the standard for digital graphics as well. The fact so many 16-bit and 32-bit era games ran at 60fps is an indication of that. Games aren't cinematic presentations. They are an interactive medium with user input and objecticely benefit from higher framerates to a point (personally I perceive no difference from 120fps onwards). Why should we "play for half hour and just get used to 30fps" on a certain title when it's abundantly clear the dev has messed up and implemented poor scaling solution that has left the image unnecessarily and inconsistently blurry? It's not like I'm asking for RDR2 @ 60fps on PS4 Base model here. Rebirth doesn't look *that different* from Intergrade and the open world argument falls apart when you perceive the image quality of HFW or GoT on the same hardware and monitor.
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 , you make very good points, and personally, I don't see that much of a difference between 30 frames and 60 frames during action sequences, which can't be said out loud without the risk of inducing the wrath of those who claim there is something wrong with my eyesight, but that aside, I get that what we want is 4k graphics running at 60 frames per second to be the minimum standard. I would like that too, perhaps I failed to mention that earlier, however, I was only trying to provide troubleshooting for those who want to experience the game and lack the patience to wait for patch updates that will fix the issues with "Performance Mode".
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 I mean obviously 60 FPS feels night and day better for gameplay. Espacially for action combat games. But OP does have a point in sitting closer to the screen will make the blur WAY more noticable. For example i play games on my 4K computer monitor even when i use my PS5 so i sit very close to the screen. And the blur is insane. But if i move futher back then it does look abit better.
@@adnanj91 it's a happy medium. It's not blurry at all but distant objects get that extra " skyword sword" paint look thanks to the Mclassic. Not perfect but way better that the default.
Dude, graphics only looks better when there is little to no movement. in graphics mode, everytime you use the player camera the everything on screen gets shaky and clunky. i dont want to puke everytime i turn the camera. lol
Ask a question to the video poster. My impression is that 30fps is extremely difficult to see. Is it right to try to improve visibility by installing a VRR (adaptive sync) compatible monitor as a solution to this problem?
"Pushed the ps5 to it's limits?" you say??? I keep saying "Horizon Forbidden West". That game came out 2 years ago and looks many times more stunning than this and runs at 60 fps with 1800p. And it's a cross gen game. No sorry but FF7 rebirth can's hold a candle to HFW
It's obviously a technical problem. SE uses a very rough upscaling technology, and there are also strange lighting and low-quality texture issues. These cannot be solved by just using PS5 pro.
This has nothing to do with PS5. It’s capable of so much more. Ya’ll can’t be serious. Spider-Man 2 looks insanely next gen 4k 30/40/60 with RTX and all bells and whistles. Same for Horizon, GoW, and Demon’s Souls which is a launch title. This is Square and their constant garbage optimization. FFXVI was the exact same.
As someone who is new to consoles, the 30 fps mode just seemed unplayable to me. But after witnessing the fidelity of the former title, FF7 Remake, I knew a crisp resolution was a must to appreciate the graphical fidelity Unreal Engine was capable of, well harnessed by the artists and designers. After a few days I got used to the 30 FPS mode, it was the only way to enjoy the game properly, without any cheap effect to make it playable.@@96andr
Im surprised Square has not look into supporting AMD FSR, or at least adding the popularly requested 120 Hz Fidelity mode. I suspect that this upscaling method is so bad that even the 40 fps fidelity mode would be blurry. But it worked for FF7 Remake, so it could also be a matter that the engine updates and expensive assets are slowing it down. That's why I'm surprised they haven't looked into AMD FSR. Maybe they just do not care as they are riding on the hope of the PS5 Pro and PC release success? I just think they don't care which is why after the backlash, they did nothing to improve the resolution, but told the public they had patched it, as a form of damage control to cover the tracks. I'd say they probably will release another fake patch in near future if they still receive backlash, but probably not since the reviews for the game have done well. @@HAA2k
I guess to double the frame rate they must 1/4th the resolution. I don't understand why they dont have a 120 Hz compatible Fidelity mode for faster monitors. This would put it at a solid 40 FPS and could even go higher for monitors with Variable Refresh Rate. Not to mention, I'm sure even people stuck with 60 Hz displays would still prefer a solid 40 FPS at the cost of some screen tearing and input lag. Albeit that setting won't work on 60 Hz displays, unless Square added a "Balanced" graphics mode. However it seems the only games that have this compromise are allowing it for 120 Hz Fidelity mode, reason being the 40 fps divides evenly into 120 hz allowing no screen tearing by synchronizing to this speed. But it still would allow a good maybe 10% of players to jump up to 40 FPS with graphics almost as sharp as the Quality mode, probably around as sharp as the Performance mode in FF7 Remake. With a benefit of the doubt, perhaps Square cannot even make a mode like this hit 40 FPS without being just as blurry, or they are just pretending this mode does not exist? The performance mode patch that they claimed to release did nothing after all, it was just a few tweaks as a form of damage control so they could tell people they fixed it. It maybe explains why, with the comparison in this video, when he compares to the demo performance, looks to be the aliasing of pixels is the only difference, trying to trick us into thinking the same resolution is sharper when the smoothing of pixels is simply turned off.
This is a reason that can be argued as to why you shouldnt give gamers multiple options in this regard, unless you are going to give 2 or more great alternatives of one another. Had Rebirth just shipped with quality mode, there wouldnt be nearly as much bitching, as people wouldnt have anything to really complain about since they only had graphics mode to compare itself to, and SE could have come up with any # of reasons as to why they didnt implement 60fps mode.
@flipskaterdave So they're deliberately not improving visuals? Is that what you're saying? Hogwarts Legacy was made using UE4 and it looks phenomenal, so if they want consistency, why not make the FF7 trilogy look consistently phenomenal? Why not make all 3 games without graphical issues that shouldn't exist? For a PS4 game, Remake had many graphical issues.....if you're trying to tell me that moving forward, the trilogy will maintain those issues on purpose, how's that a good thing? Something tells me that you just don't really care about graphical development. You say it's for consistency, but if Rebirth had really crisp textures, moving foliage etc. I don't think you'd be annoyed that it wasn't consistent.
It’s not that bad. No one is going to play the game at 4x zoom. Game still looks great in both modes. I personally prefer performance mode over graphic.
@@J1090-k1e It's true. It looks too bad for a game in 2024. FF 16 had the same problem with the performance mode. The PS5 is getting left in the dust, the compromise for 60fps is just not worth it.
@@J1090-k1e The graphics don't affect the quality of the game. I know it's a good game. I played the first, and it was awesome. But I've played it on PC, so coming from that to this blurry mess is too much for me. I want to play it, but I'm gonna wait for the eventual PC release.
great excuse to wait for ps5 pro. should be on sale by then. FF16 was a complete fail for me. How is a remake deeper than a major addition? Seems weird. So many playable characters, so many extra activities. Deeper combat.
@via-xp5ig I can't play it if it's a blurry mess. Performance mode for Part 1. Graphics mode for Part 2. It's like we are going backwards in Performance mode lately on new games and getting pixelated graphics all over again like its 2007. 🤮
I play on a 65" Nvidia big format gaming display. So I REALLY see the muddy textures. Graphics Mode still looks like crap, honestly. I can't wait for this to come out on PC so I can play with clarity and fps at the same time. I doubt the PS5 Pro will be that much better. Might get AVERAGE 60 fps at 4k in Graphics Mode I bet...
I want some comparison of the past Unreal engine vs. the new engine they are using now (unity right?). Cause I have the feeling in a lot of scene faces look incredibly much worse than in part 1.. Not the "cutscenes" or call it "scripted scenes" but the moments outside of these.. especially when there is dialogue when it doesn't switch to that cinematic mode you can see it very very much.
Esse problema do borrão no modo desempenho não é culpa do ps5 minha gente, a desenvolvedora tem ferramentas como fsr 2.0 e 3.0 para melhorar a nitidez da imagem. Por que ela não usa é a pergunta que devemos fazer. Sera que tudo é proposital para essa narrativa do ps5 pro? Não acredito que seja isso, ta mais para preguiça do desenvolvimento.
I played Remake on the PS5 Pro because I just couldn't wait any longer. I did not regret it but I was happy when it finally came out of PC. I was given the great opportunity to replay the game with better graphics, resolution and better performance (if you ignored the occasional stutters). Now I am looking forward to repeating that cycle with Rebirth. But I am really torn between Graphics and Performance Mode... I hate 30fps but blurry visuals is almost as bad... will probably switch between the two from time to time just like with Remake.
They really should have cut back a little on the graphical detail and try to retain the Remakes much sharper performance mode. Poor image quality reall makes it hard to enjoy the otherwise aweseome graphics. So it always a good idea to cut back a little on the graphics to raise the image quality. There needs to be a good balance.
Guys, I'm starting to believe I'm blind. I watched every comparison video and I tried to see a difference on the actual game myself. The only difference I caught between graphics and perfomance mode is that performance runs better. I sit a bit far away from my TV, but even close up on my monitor I just cannot see the blurriness? Is that something I should tell my doctor about or what?
No offense but if you can't tell the difference then you might need to get your eyes checked out. Not saying that to be rude but it's a pretty obvious difference. Performance is significantly blurrier.
@@blakeandcamp I think I just genuinely can't see a difference because the 30 fps is the only thing I'm focused on when playing on graphics mode. It runs like ass.
i can see a difference, even in this video. Clearly when in open world with the landscape. For TH-cam maybe you havent activated 4k60 and for the monitor maybe wrong hdmi cable so it outputs only 1080p
@@TheRedGlint4427 I finished the game twice on performance mode now. I still didn't see a difference, not even between sharp and smooth performance mode.
Its 2024 and we still stuck at 30fps 😆🤣. So embarrassing. Thank God this is coming to PC. Native 4k 60+fps. Playing this at 30fps or 1440p/60fps should be illegal.
(2024, the year of 720p games all over again) Texture Pop in is so bad. Also why does the foilage not move?.... Last time i seen that was RE4 remake for PS4. Performance mode for Part 1. Graphics mode for Part 2. It's like we are going backwards in Performance mode lately on new games and getting pixelated/aliased graphics all over again like its 2007. 720p upscaled is not acceptable in 2024. At this rate the PS4 Pro gameplay looks better. O.o It's obvious they need to go back to using 4k Checkerboard Rendering like the PS4 Pro did. It was far superior to this DLSS crap that's ruining games.
there is no way thats 30fps...more likely 25... if you speed up the video to 1.25 its far better. Like others mentioned, 40fps would be the best option with a 1440p resolution.or lower texture resolutions with higher screen res in performance mod. i hope that ps5 pro will provide higher resolution in performance mod
i think graphics mode is not too bad once you play it for like two days after playing performance for half the game… but jesus exploring gongaga and riding the chocobo in graphics mode just hurts my eyes
Try playing it on Quality Mode first. You'll get used to the 30 frames per second after an hour. Just don't worry about it afterwards and keep the graphic options the same.
@@TheBlakReaper So, I should turn off Performance mode, VRR, and 120fps capability? - to get native 30fps? I should receive my pre-order of Rebirth from my local supplier in a few days from now. Sorry about the constant set-up questions- but you are helping me greatly on the best way to experience this RPG Masterpiece.
@@joshfulcifan1015 , I'm not sure if 120 frames per second is even an option on a PS5, but yes, there should be an option that allows you to choose between "Quality Mode" and "Performance Mode". Just switch it to Quality Mode and that should do it. Just leave it at that, and don't worry about it anymore. I hope that helps. I apologize if I don't know what VRR is as I haven't had a chance to look at the options menu yet.
@@TheBlakReaper My only options are to choose "Performance Mode" or "Resolution Mode". There is no "Quality Mode" option on my PS5 menu I have just checked.
graphics mode is blurry as heck, I had just finished Yakuza 8 on my OLED connected to my PC at 4K and then started FF7R and I was very disappointed because of how bad it looks.
30 fps is such a joke in 2024. just shows how limited consoles still are compared to a standard gaming pc and maybe it´s also a lack of effort from the dev side aswell. you are not even getting a clear picture in performance mode altough most settings are already turned low to mid.
Motion blur makes the game worse and chopier it's very demanding to make it look like shit what I wish is they would use a different scaling method for performance and make sure depth of field emotion blur is completely off
@@rafaelrobles5494it is about playing the quality mode in 60fps this time. if you dont see a difference in the demo between performance or quality mode - fine. i cant play the game with the normal ps5, as performance mode is super blurry to my eyes and quality mode is too much stutter...i hope ps5 pro can fix this. it is rumored to have a form of dlss onboard, to enable high quality mode for only little costs on performance. lets hope...
Still no proof there is one. The fact Sony lost 10 billion or more is likely had them reconsidering a new console this year. You can’t believe TH-camrs who just make money off rumours either. Look at the ones who were completely wrong about Microsoft and what was being allowed to be third party yet they went on and on about that nonsense like it was the end of Xbox lol
Yeah this is weird you can't even make put Clouds face its that blurry in Performance mode.. People defending it saying its coz it big and open compared to Remake but yer Assassin's Creed Odyssey blows it away on console in visual fidelity at 60fps
@@huzidamasta, I'm kinda the same way too. I can see the camera difference only when the camera turns or moves, and the difference between 30 and 60 look slightly different with how smooth it moves, however, during fight scenes, it's hardly noticeable. I think in all honesty, after an hour playing in 30, your brain will stop noticing the difference.
@TheBlakReaper Well scientifically, the opposite is true. The more your brain is conditioned with one, the more likely it becomes that you'll notice a difference. That's just fact. After 30 mins of playing you'll get used to it, but if you then switched over, I'd be gobsmacked if you didn't notice the difference. I'd argue the individual is visually impaired if they couldn't see the obvious difference. It goes without saying that it's harder to detect when the camera isn't moving. We're talking about frames here. But regardless, it's hardly relevant when we're talking about a game where the camera's moving most of the time.
It's unacceptable graphics mode being unplayable I've never played a game in graphics mode so bad like this one, it's a slideshow and the graphics are still not amazing...then I switch to performance and I still get random fps drops on some situations and the graphics decay a lot It's been 4 years since the Remake and to be fair, it had better graphics and better performance...what happened here?
@@arandan666 so? it's 2024, they fucked up like they always do. You have 2018 open world games with better graphics and performance such as God of War for example, I would tell you to use yours too but you don't have one
This game does not push the limit of the PS5 not even close. FF16 that looked way better speaking about graphics and that game as well didn't push the limits of the PS5. The game that truly gonna push the PS5 limits for real is GTA6 in 2025.
Ff16 has constant frame drops pretty much everywhere outside of combat. I 100% the game and loved it but it ran like dogshit. These games either need to be optimized better or put on the PC to truly shine. It really hurts the experience getting fps drops to 40/30/20 I mean cmon it's 2024
Its not about GPU, 2070 super is equivalent to a PS5 gpu and dont think this GPU is not worth for gaming. Its the devs who make broken games. Its not the machine's fault. The last of us, FF7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, Forbidden West, Death Stranding etc are perfect example PS5 can run games pretty well Its OPTIMIZATION what matters. Not PC with 4080 to run broken games and flex
@@fastica the difference is those games only have 1 character your playing with, this game have 3 plus 2 or more on background you can still see them far away during battles. if you combine all of the resources and codes of all those characters in the same scene plus all of the animation for each skills of those 3 characters plus interactions to enemy graphics wise and numbers behind this is really a very heavy game for any system to process. Plus open world game without loading time is a very heavy resources as it will render all of the asset and load all of the objects animations, graphics and its behind the scenes numbers if it will shows on the screen. For example if your playing on low end system like a pc some games will run better in an enclose area like inside the house or a dungeon but worse to a much more open areas. I am not defending the devs but SE looks like behind on the technical stuff compare to western devs. I also read an interview that they struggle in this aspect starting around ps3 era and just catching up until this era. I really like the design of the game were you using mutliple characters, its like you have tekken which you can control multiple characters and combine it to horizon map with 3rd person view.
Well why do they keep pushing the graphics on these games if the console the game is made for is not powerful enough to handle it? Why not scale things back to get a game that looks good and runs good?
My guy is teleporting from place to place during the fights, the performance is so bad on Graphics mode. But the Graphics look like 💩 on performance mode. Guess I gotta wait a couple months
Devs need to consider 40fps balanced mode for all games
Atleast 40 is way better than 30fps and ps5 capable does 40fps no problem
Yea 40 for VRR displays like we have on Spider-Man 2 and God of war + other ps5 exclusive.
We need to let Square Enix know.
What's funny is they included it in Forspoken of all games lol
Both graphic & performance modes are unnecessary piece of crap caused by incompetent developers who don't know how to optimize their games, period. If Square-Enix hired a team that are half as good as those who developed The Last of Us or Horizon Zero Dawn then we won't have to deal with all this bs in 2024. As things stand right now most people gonna have to wait another year to play on PC (the way it's meant to be played)
In dont get why they just dont Set the Resolution to 1080p or 2k and tweak the settings to make it run on 60fps .
Those dynamic Resolutions are horrible.
I hate that people say "its time for a ps5 pro" no, its time for square enix to optimize their games better and stop resting on their laurels. Insomniac and everyone else can do it, look at the Spiderman games.
Lazy devs... it's just that!
True. But we need the pro now for this game, been waiting to play it
there's going to be so many complaints about the blurry and not 2160p
I don't really even feel the problem is the PS5 or limitations. But I feel it's devs not using what we now have. Fsr 2.0 or 3.0 would easily fix the blurry looking 60fps. And iv seen plenty of 60fps games that look and run fine on ps5. I just feel devs don't use the tools they have to make games look and preform better. Even if a ps5 pro drops I doubt they would hardly take advantage of it.
Concordo com você, temos muitas ferramentas e jogos como Horizon forbiden west, para nos mostras que o ps5 é capaz de mais.
What's even weirder is that the game uses Unreal engine, one of the easiest engines to implement any upscaling technology.
@@metroplex29 Exactly I mean look at fortnite that game has a massive open map runs using unreal 5 with all the fixtures including ray tracing at 60fps. It's definitely possible to do better. Spiderman and other games do well as well. I just feel lots of devs have gotten use to making games run at 30fps . Not to mention we still see lots of games being made for ps4. This generation has been extremely slow and disappointing. And all I hear is people wanting new technology. When games don't even utilize what's available.
@@vitorhugoreale6572 No Español sorry.
@@Zakurablade portuguese
I wish 30fps mode had an option for motion blur. As there is none and it feels choppy. But on 60fps mode its blurry as heck. It is slightly better than it was originally in the demo but not much. They could drop some other setting to allow resolution to come up. It feels horrible for sure. One tip for 30fps mode that helped me if you are on a monitor switch the response time of the pixels to be slower so that it adds some 'blur' to fill in those 30 fps gaps.
Sad to see a seemingly amazing game held back by either of its graphical modes... there is no great way to play
not motion blur but interlaced to 60i.
I have a jutter and blur reduction option on my TV, thank god, adds very minor input delay I think, but makes a world of difference.
If I turn those options off and run default 30fps it feels choppy and atrocious.
Would be nice if they could do a 40fps VRR mode.
Kinda funny after FF16 which had crazy amounts of motion blur that couldn't be turned off or reduced
@@Vampireknighthey fixed it though, they added an option to adjust motion blur or turn it off which was amazing.
Personally the blur isn’t that bad. The choppy camera/motion in graphics mode is miles above more distracting and strenuous on my eyes than the blur.
To the many people who see this video and thing performance mode isn't that bad: I invite you to see for yourself by downloading the demo. It is incredibly blurry. It is no exaggeration.
@@HAA2k shows us how trash the ps5 really is
@@HAA2k by not being able to handle 1440p 60fps which a pc from 10 years ago could...... and yes ff7 rebirth runs at 2k not 4k thats fake
@@HAA2k i have the game and its very fun it deff is game of the year for me even do it just started😂 on graphics mode it actually is very similar to ff16 just not AS smooth on performance not gonna lie it looks very blurry for me personally unplayable but i think its a bug cause i found a fix you put ps5 on 1440p then play performance mode for ff7 rebirth and everything looks much sharper😂
@@HAA2k btw afther seeing the sheer scope of the game where you can see soooooo much into the horizon i understand why it looks less good then jedi this game world looks massive with incredible view distance
literally see no difference
I will definetely choose performance mode, no question about that!
I love good performance, but it's too blurry for my taste.
Having my tv at a reasonable distance and having my tv sharpining on at 10 it looks alright, I swore I will never go back to 30fps and am happy for it. @@fastica
The 30 fps mode feels horrible at first glace but once you get adjusted it's worth it. With exception of maybe a tough boss fight or areas ur grinding.
Lies. You don't get used to that slide show called 30fps.
@@MikeRavia-xp5ig U do but can take a break from it once in a while. Its what to expect from a console title. A majority of next gen games are like this. Blurry quality or 30 fps. The only compromise is 120 Hz Fidelity mode but Square is not implimenting it. Or AMD FSR but they dont care to support it
To be honest, I never noticed the blurry lines in Performance Mode.
But I do hope in maybe a future update, they fix the Graphics frames per second. But so far, it’s a really fun game
This is another game that needs a 40fps mode.
No it does not, it should be able to run at 60 fps with good looking graphics. There is no excuse for this other than lazy devs, even the first game had a better performance mode. Don't drop your standards just cuz the devs were lazy.
@@mbouzubarThere is A LOT more to render in this than VIIR, it's far more demanding, you're crazy if you think otherwise.
Consider plague tale Requiem, it's 60fps was capped 1080p even when they made a bunch of other compromises, it's graphics mode maxed at 1440p 30fps, but did support 40 with VRR.
I would say 7 rebirth is certainly on par at times in busier sections though, but overall, does not seem as demanding? (I don't have system requirements, but the fact that rebirth can hit like 4k-1800? Upper limit at 30fps when plague tale doesn't even scare that, leads me to believe that's the case)
but still performance mode should be WAAYY better and could be improved (heck, just make it not blurry), I feel a 40fps mode is a more realistic compromise or alternative. Enix is renowned for being pretty bad at optimisation, then mix that with unreal engine being pretty bad to optimize also.
Not likely much will get done to fix it, but fingers crossed.
Cyberpunk is another example, it's extremely dense, a lot going on, and runs great.
Rebirth in comparison, is mainly "empty" in this case (for the most part, there is dense locations) no crazy dynamic npc systems or anything, it's likely not very taxing on CPU at all..... Who knows what's chugging their resources.
@@everilliem3292 plague tale Requiem was a graphical wonder though and cross-platform. This game was made for the PS5. So they should make the game run great on the console first and foremost. Instead of trying to push graphics at the cost of performance.
1st was linear this not..
I would primarily play on performance mode if cutscenes were also not scaled down, so ill do my first run on 4k 30, there subsequent runs will be on performance, i want my initial playthruogh to look as intended plus you kind of just get used to 30 after about an hour of playtime
The 30fps mode is very bad in this game due to bad implementation of motion blur. Technical issues this generation have been awful.
but its not
I wish so badly they would add a 40fps unlocked mode. That would make everything all better.
The enemies movements look staggered during combat in graphics mode.
Lmao 🤣
Am I the only one who thinks remake looks better
And u r also the only one who thinks remake is big as the rebirth
No you are not. This game looks rough in image quality and textures
No. I felt remake preformed better.
I meant yes, remake looks and performs better.
Remake does look better
I almost always go with performance modes in games but I went with quality here and never looked back. The blurry visuals in perf mode are atrocious. It legitimately hurts my eyes. It only took a few min to get used to 30 FPS.
Personally 30fps isn’t even an option for me. I played the demo for the first time ever (post patch) on performance mode and thought it looked spectacular. When these tech reviews zoom in on objects in the distance it looks awful, but that’s not actually reality. It also points out something casual gamers might not even notice in the first place. I don’t consider myself casual, but if something looks good to me that’s all I need (I may be a bit biased towards this game in particular since it was a life changing experience for me in 1997) I really think it’s a nitpick. So many people want to say “it’s like Vaseline is smeared all over the screen”, yeah okay pal.
I tried it on my 43'' 4k tv and it looks so bad, while FF7 remake looked incredible in performance mode
@@JulliusTheGreatI’m playing on a 24 inch benq monitor and it looks good for the most part
Anyone who isn't naive can spot the difference right away, the zoom in mode just proves there's a huge gap in visual Fidelity. Its the same reason why the trailers for this game don't do it justice in compressed 1080p TH-cam quality. Square admitted to using more expensive assets for this game, bragging about how the game could handle it, clearly it cannot unless u want to play in 1990's framerate. Which must be done if you want beautiful graphics instead of below average. Even the Quality mode dips down quite low some times, making it's visual fidelity comparable to the performance mode on Remake, only at half the framerate
Horizon forbidden west had this same issue on launch and it eventually got fixed i hope square enix fixes this because there is no reason a next gen game shouldnt be able to hold itself on performance mode
Final fantasy 16 is here since 1year and not fix the performance mode and resolution
The issue is that it looks even more blurry on a 4K screen since downscaling is also stretching the pixels out. If the native resolution is 1080P it does look better but since i use a 4K screen it is very noticable. Which takes me out of the experience. And i don't like to play games with only 30 FPS it feels clunky to me. But i guess that's the things are.
The prob with 4k/30fps to me is that once the camera is moving the 30fps makes the game look blurry anyway...
Seriously though, for anybody who only only play games on consoles and expect the most graphically demanding games to run in 4k/60fps, you really should be playing games on PC (obviously this game is only PS5 but it means you would have to wait for it to possibly come to PC).
Hell, even with PC's it is just now getting more common for the topmost specs to be able to run these graphically high end games at 4k/60fps, So expecting the current gen consoles to do so is quite absurd.
This has been such a weird generation. So many games with such low image quality that they end up looking worse than cross-gen games despite their numerous graphical improvements. I just finished Remake the other day and Rebirth looks like a downgrade in performance mode simply because it's so blurry.
oh man the performance mode is gadawfully look bad into days game i cant play 30fps now its hard for me.. and i dont understand myself how the hell ive be able to play 30 fps on ps4 before....and now my eyes cant handle 30 fps, i hope they can update it more..like the blurriness is isnane character models are blurred should they remove japanese so no blurr? i mean FF 16 is looking good are they diff engines?
I was like you but now I play 30 fps like no problem.
This doesn't seem accurate because I can tell you Performance Mode looks 100x worse on my OLED. Like a smeared mess.
As I said, it looks bad even on a small monitor - so on your large OLED - yes it would look even worse. Maybe try watching video on the TV you play on
@@OpenSurprise One thing I did noticed in the updated demo (which I assume is what final game will be) Graphics Mode actually looked better and it seems the UI/HUD was now finally in 4K. In the first demo the HUD seemed almost grainy and lacked clarity but wasn't the case after the update.
False info : the performance mode actually runs at 1440p according to pixel counts by df, the problem is that they are using a horrible upscaling method , maybe fsr 1 like they did in final fantasy 16.
which means it's not native 1440p - just upscaling to it using native 1080p.
I like how they are obviously considering this for PC release, and making it so you can still get the most out of it even if you do choose performance.
i dont care about blurry/ performance mode or graphic mode,. i'm just glad square enix make this remake..... imagine square enix not remake this game, maybe ff7 remake & rebirth it's just a myth : D
Exactly and tbh Square enix is still here as a company for doing this remake project because if u remember they were dead in the water in 2015 but when this got announced everything was ok for Square enix they basically pressed the panic button hoping this would work and it did
We need 40fps vvr..ASAP..But there is not too many people asking for that..30 fps in 2024.. Waiting for future patches
I just want to say that these problems are probably more noticeable the closer you are to whatever monitor or television screen you're gaming on. For those who prefer the 60 frames but can't stand the graphic down scale, try sitting further away from your screen. For those playing on Quality mode for the 4k graphics and 30 frames, give the game an hour or so of playtime, and your brain will most likely stop noticing it. For those with motion sickness, 60 is the way to go, and for those who don't have that issue, 30 is just fine. Last thoughts on this is our eyes take in information at around 24 to 25 frames per second, so 30 should be more than enough, in theory, at least.
Why do people keep insisting on this nonsense about our eyes only seeing so much information? There is clear perceptible night and day difference between 30fps and 60fps. I've played dozens of AAA games at 60fps+ since I last forced myself through a 30fps title (TLOU2 on PS4 Pro in 2020) as 30 just looks choppy and feels less responsive nowadays -- even more since I've upgraded both my TV and Monitor to OLED panels. I cannot go back to the tinny in-built TV speakers or 21 inch screens of my younger years and I cannot go back to 30fps. Also, the graphics are not the problem here. It's the garbage post-processing they've used that makes character models and textures appear far lower res than they actually are.
Why can't you people say 'I've not an issue with it, but I can see that you do. Hopefully they find a workaround '. Instead it's just a flat refusal that somebody else may experience gaming differently and sandbagging for billion dollar companies too stingy to optimise properly.
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 , my brother, I hear you loud and clear. Yes, some may not have an issue with it, but some clearly do. I was just merely trying to provide troubleshooting. However, if you watch live action movies, then you should know those movies are filmed in 24 frames per second unless they're doing a special shot for a slow motion scene.
@@TheBlakReaper 24fps became the standard for cinema because it was deemed the lowest possible you could go before motion between frames could begin to resemble that of a flickbook to the viewer. They aimed for this because film stock back in the days was very expensive to procure, so it made little sense to shoot more frames that necessary.
It's a misnomer that 24fps, or 30fps, is "the sweet spot" or that we cannot perceive above it and that it therefore should be accepted for the standard for digital graphics as well. The fact so many 16-bit and 32-bit era games ran at 60fps is an indication of that.
Games aren't cinematic presentations. They are an interactive medium with user input and objecticely benefit from higher framerates to a point (personally I perceive no difference from 120fps onwards).
Why should we "play for half hour and just get used to 30fps" on a certain title when it's abundantly clear the dev has messed up and implemented poor scaling solution that has left the image unnecessarily and inconsistently blurry?
It's not like I'm asking for RDR2 @ 60fps on PS4 Base model here. Rebirth doesn't look *that different* from Intergrade and the open world argument falls apart when you perceive the image quality of HFW or GoT on the same hardware and monitor.
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 , you make very good points, and personally, I don't see that much of a difference between 30 frames and 60 frames during action sequences, which can't be said out loud without the risk of inducing the wrath of those who claim there is something wrong with my eyesight, but that aside, I get that what we want is 4k graphics running at 60 frames per second to be the minimum standard. I would like that too, perhaps I failed to mention that earlier, however, I was only trying to provide troubleshooting for those who want to experience the game and lack the patience to wait for patch updates that will fix the issues with "Performance Mode".
@@shinramiddlemanager7949 I mean obviously 60 FPS feels night and day better for gameplay. Espacially for action combat games. But OP does have a point in sitting closer to the screen will make the blur WAY more noticable. For example i play games on my 4K computer monitor even when i use my PS5 so i sit very close to the screen. And the blur is insane. But if i move futher back then it does look abit better.
5:44 the Mythrilmmine’s theme!
If you've a MClassic i recommend dropping the internal res to 1080p and using the upscaler.
The performance mode becomes Way sharper.
I'm also considering this option. Would you say the upscaler makes the image remotely comparable to the graphics mode or is still quite blurry?
@@adnanj91 it's a happy medium. It's not blurry at all but distant objects get that extra " skyword sword" paint look thanks to the Mclassic. Not perfect but way better that the default.
Dude, graphics only looks better when there is little to no movement. in graphics mode, everytime you use the player camera the everything on screen gets shaky and clunky. i dont want to puke everytime i turn the camera. lol
That's not true. It looks sharper all the time.
Thats called 30 fps 😂.Its terrible.
Because there's no motion blur on 30fps mode
Looks bettwr than Remake on graphics mode but worsw on performance.
Ask a question to the video poster.
My impression is that 30fps is extremely difficult to see. Is it right to try to improve visibility by installing a VRR (adaptive sync) compatible monitor as a solution to this problem?
"Pushed the ps5 to it's limits?" you say??? I keep saying "Horizon Forbidden West". That game came out 2 years ago and looks many times more stunning than this and runs at 60 fps with 1800p. And it's a cross gen game. No sorry but FF7 rebirth can's hold a candle to HFW
It's obviously a technical problem. SE uses a very rough upscaling technology, and there are also strange lighting and low-quality texture issues. These cannot be solved by just using PS5 pro.
I've been wondering why AMD FSR is not an option. As far as I know FSR should work on PS5 games
When you zoom in 4X the difference is the aliasing. Looks like the anti aliasing is turned off in the official release?
You can set the ps5 1080p and graphics mode but unfortunately it’s still soft locked to 30fps. Hope they could unlock graphics to 60 with 1080p.
What is version number of the game? On Release came even one patch ?!
One patch so far and it didn’t improve much. Version is 1.010.
I’d take 60fps regardless
This has nothing to do with PS5. It’s capable of so much more. Ya’ll can’t be serious. Spider-Man 2 looks insanely next gen 4k 30/40/60 with RTX and all bells and whistles. Same for Horizon, GoW, and Demon’s Souls which is a launch title.
This is Square and their constant garbage optimization. FFXVI was the exact same.
Performance is the best for me. Anyway it looks amazing in both modes
You're blind as a bat or you're huffing copium. Performance mode is garbage.
@@antonytomas1 ok play it with the camera lagging at 30 fps
cope-ium lol@@antonytomas1
As someone who is new to consoles, the 30 fps mode just seemed unplayable to me. But after witnessing the fidelity of the former title, FF7 Remake, I knew a crisp resolution was a must to appreciate the graphical fidelity Unreal Engine was capable of, well harnessed by the artists and designers. After a few days I got used to the 30 FPS mode, it was the only way to enjoy the game properly, without any cheap effect to make it playable.@@96andr
Im surprised Square has not look into supporting AMD FSR, or at least adding the popularly requested 120 Hz Fidelity mode. I suspect that this upscaling method is so bad that even the 40 fps fidelity mode would be blurry. But it worked for FF7 Remake, so it could also be a matter that the engine updates and expensive assets are slowing it down. That's why I'm surprised they haven't looked into AMD FSR. Maybe they just do not care as they are riding on the hope of the PS5 Pro and PC release success? I just think they don't care which is why after the backlash, they did nothing to improve the resolution, but told the public they had patched it, as a form of damage control to cover the tracks. I'd say they probably will release another fake patch in near future if they still receive backlash, but probably not since the reviews for the game have done well. @@HAA2k
I guess to double the frame rate they must 1/4th the resolution. I don't understand why they dont have a 120 Hz compatible Fidelity mode for faster monitors. This would put it at a solid 40 FPS and could even go higher for monitors with Variable Refresh Rate. Not to mention, I'm sure even people stuck with 60 Hz displays would still prefer a solid 40 FPS at the cost of some screen tearing and input lag. Albeit that setting won't work on 60 Hz displays, unless Square added a "Balanced" graphics mode. However it seems the only games that have this compromise are allowing it for 120 Hz Fidelity mode, reason being the 40 fps divides evenly into 120 hz allowing no screen tearing by synchronizing to this speed. But it still would allow a good maybe 10% of players to jump up to 40 FPS with graphics almost as sharp as the Quality mode, probably around as sharp as the Performance mode in FF7 Remake. With a benefit of the doubt, perhaps Square cannot even make a mode like this hit 40 FPS without being just as blurry, or they are just pretending this mode does not exist? The performance mode patch that they claimed to release did nothing after all, it was just a few tweaks as a form of damage control so they could tell people they fixed it. It maybe explains why, with the comparison in this video, when he compares to the demo performance, looks to be the aliasing of pixels is the only difference, trying to trick us into thinking the same resolution is sharper when the smoothing of pixels is simply turned off.
This is a reason that can be argued as to why you shouldnt give gamers multiple options in this regard, unless you are going to give 2 or more great alternatives of one another.
Had Rebirth just shipped with quality mode, there wouldnt be nearly as much bitching, as people wouldnt have anything to really complain about since they only had graphics mode to compare itself to, and SE could have come up with any # of reasons as to why they didnt implement 60fps mode.
Devs still struggling with visuals. It's a shame.
they're still using UE4 for consistancy in the trilogy is why
@flipskaterdave So they're deliberately not improving visuals? Is that what you're saying?
Hogwarts Legacy was made using UE4 and it looks phenomenal, so if they want consistency, why not make the FF7 trilogy look consistently phenomenal? Why not make all 3 games without graphical issues that shouldn't exist? For a PS4 game, Remake had many graphical issues.....if you're trying to tell me that moving forward, the trilogy will maintain those issues on purpose, how's that a good thing?
Something tells me that you just don't really care about graphical development. You say it's for consistency, but if Rebirth had really crisp textures, moving foliage etc. I don't think you'd be annoyed that it wasn't consistent.
What is so hard about keeping 60fps on the graphics mode
It’s not that bad. No one is going to play the game at 4x zoom. Game still looks great in both modes. I personally prefer performance mode over graphic.
bro, performance mode looks bad even on a 24" inch screen ._. its just too blurry
@@metroplex29 😂 shots fired. Either way, I like to think square will address it, but if they don’t, I’m not all that bothered.
@@J1090-k1e It's true. It looks too bad for a game in 2024. FF 16 had the same problem with the performance mode. The PS5 is getting left in the dust, the compromise for 60fps is just not worth it.
@@edhen683 will you dislike the game for it? Or still enjoy it? Given that you like it for than just a bit of blurr?
@@J1090-k1e The graphics don't affect the quality of the game. I know it's a good game. I played the first, and it was awesome. But I've played it on PC, so coming from that to this blurry mess is too much for me. I want to play it, but I'm gonna wait for the eventual PC release.
great excuse to wait for ps5 pro. should be on sale by then. FF16 was a complete fail for me. How is a remake deeper than a major addition? Seems weird. So many playable characters, so many extra activities. Deeper combat.
Blurry doesn't bother me. The choppy 30 FPS does.
Amen. I play my games. I don't sit and stare at it.
@via-xp5ig I can't play it if it's a blurry mess.
Performance mode for Part 1.
Graphics mode for Part 2.
It's like we are going backwards in Performance mode lately on new games and getting pixelated graphics all over again like its 2007. 🤮
It's as if the developers forgot what console they are developing for. Guess they are developing for the PS5 PRO or the PS6?
@@MatrixAlphaCWX
Ayy finally a comment that matters haha I always play on performance mode can't stand 30fps and can't even see the motion blur
@@ghost-boy386 I almost wonder if it depends on the TV. I know on mine, I see no issues, but my cousins says his looks blurry.
I play on a 65" Nvidia big format gaming display. So I REALLY see the muddy textures. Graphics Mode still looks like crap, honestly. I can't wait for this to come out on PC so I can play with clarity and fps at the same time. I doubt the PS5 Pro will be that much better. Might get AVERAGE 60 fps at 4k in Graphics Mode I bet...
I want some comparison of the past Unreal engine vs. the new engine they are using now (unity right?).
Cause I have the feeling in a lot of scene faces look incredibly much worse than in part 1.. Not the "cutscenes" or call it "scripted scenes" but the moments outside of these.. especially when there is dialogue when it doesn't switch to that cinematic mode you can see it very very much.
Unreal Engine.
They never changed the engine
I would rather get 60fps and 240p then 30fps 4k
Esse problema do borrão no modo desempenho não é culpa do ps5 minha gente, a desenvolvedora tem ferramentas como fsr 2.0 e 3.0 para melhorar a nitidez da imagem. Por que ela não usa é a pergunta que devemos fazer. Sera que tudo é proposital para essa narrativa do ps5 pro? Não acredito que seja isso, ta mais para preguiça do desenvolvimento.
This is why I can’t play ff16. the performance mode is too blurry and the fps constantly dips below 60. Have to wait for the pc version.
I played Remake on the PS5 Pro because I just couldn't wait any longer. I did not regret it but I was happy when it finally came out of PC. I was given the great opportunity to replay the game with better graphics, resolution and better performance (if you ignored the occasional stutters). Now I am looking forward to repeating that cycle with Rebirth. But I am really torn between Graphics and Performance Mode... I hate 30fps but blurry visuals is almost as bad... will probably switch between the two from time to time just like with Remake.
You played on unreleased PS5 Pro already? Damn 😮
They really should have cut back a little on the graphical detail and try to retain the Remakes much sharper performance mode.
Poor image quality reall makes it hard to enjoy the otherwise aweseome graphics.
So it always a good idea to cut back a little on the graphics to raise the image quality. There needs to be a good balance.
I see the blur here, but still not seeing the blur on my TV. I don’t get it man
Guys, I'm starting to believe I'm blind. I watched every comparison video and I tried to see a difference on the actual game myself. The only difference I caught between graphics and perfomance mode is that performance runs better. I sit a bit far away from my TV, but even close up on my monitor I just cannot see the blurriness? Is that something I should tell my doctor about or what?
No offense but if you can't tell the difference then you might need to get your eyes checked out. Not saying that to be rude but it's a pretty obvious difference. Performance is significantly blurrier.
@@blakeandcamp I think I just genuinely can't see a difference because the 30 fps is the only thing I'm focused on when playing on graphics mode. It runs like ass.
i can see a difference, even in this video. Clearly when in open world with the landscape. For TH-cam maybe you havent activated 4k60 and for the monitor maybe wrong hdmi cable so it outputs only 1080p
@@zm3609did you get the game and did you see the difference if so because it’s concerning if they look the same to you lol
@@TheRedGlint4427 I finished the game twice on performance mode now. I still didn't see a difference, not even between sharp and smooth performance mode.
you can only see the diference if you zoom it. in actually gameplay you dont. 30 fps is a never going back if theres a 60fps mode
No way I am playing a game this beautiful in Performance mode
This shows we need a PS5 Pro ASAP.
it looks like they just sharpened the image slightly trying to cover up the blurriness of low resolution
Its 2024 and we still stuck at 30fps 😆🤣. So embarrassing. Thank God this is coming to PC. Native 4k 60+fps. Playing this at 30fps or 1440p/60fps should be illegal.
Personally I’ve been playing on graphics mode the game still hittin good😮💨💯
Just to let you know, a "PS5 Pro" is not going to completely get rid of 30 FPS modes.
Thats no 1080p, thats for sure 720p
0:30 people were saying the same thing when the ps5 launched.
Unfortunately it seems like consoles will forever be bound to 30fps or 720p.
30 fps is consoles true destiny 😂
How did you get the chest compression scene it just cut me off at that point
Early copy
They could definitely turn some of that volumetric lighting down and gain a lot of FPS
(2024, the year of 720p games all over again)
Texture Pop in is so bad.
Also why does the foilage not move?....
Last time i seen that was RE4 remake for PS4.
Performance mode for Part 1.
Graphics mode for Part 2.
It's like we are going backwards in Performance mode lately on new games and getting pixelated/aliased graphics all over again like its 2007.
720p upscaled is not acceptable in 2024.
At this rate the PS4 Pro gameplay looks better. O.o
It's obvious they need to go back to using 4k Checkerboard Rendering like the PS4 Pro did.
It was far superior to this DLSS crap that's ruining games.
there is no way thats 30fps...more likely 25... if you speed up the video to 1.25 its far better. Like others mentioned, 40fps would be the best option with a 1440p resolution.or lower texture resolutions with higher screen res in performance mod. i hope that ps5 pro will provide higher resolution in performance mod
Increase the sharpness on your tv and it will look better
I'll play in on PC at 4k 120fps later 😂
The lighting took the biggest hit compared to Remake. What a shame.
I just finished remake intergrade before the demo dropped, rebirth is such a big step down in graphics. if you ask me.
Im blind see same graphic
i think graphics mode is not too bad once you play it for like two days after playing performance for half the game… but jesus exploring gongaga and riding the chocobo in graphics mode just hurts my eyes
It really does NOT push the ps5 to the limits. It's sadly poorly optimized toward the hardware.
A game of this caliber should look like Horizon in terms of fidelity and polish
Graphics don't matter for me. What really matters i want to play the game.
Performance mode isnt playable its so blurry
feel like alot of people need to actually upgrade their tvs everyone depending on the consoles
We don't need a ps5 pro the ps5 hasn't been been fully pushed to what it can do.
If u have tv-100-120Hz
Just turn on vrr in PS settings and play with graphic mode and u can enjoy game with no slideshow
Performance mode is shit
I notice no difference between graphics and performance in visuals , mind you in on a oled so naturally stuff just looks crisp
Please someone tell me how simply set up for the best and recommended graphics- Performance mode? VRR? 30 fps or 60 fps?
Try playing it on Quality Mode first. You'll get used to the 30 frames per second after an hour. Just don't worry about it afterwards and keep the graphic options the same.
@@TheBlakReaper So, I should turn off Performance mode, VRR, and 120fps capability? - to get native 30fps? I should receive my pre-order of Rebirth from my local supplier in a few days from now. Sorry about the constant set-up questions- but you are helping me greatly on the best way to experience this RPG Masterpiece.
@@joshfulcifan1015 , I'm not sure if 120 frames per second is even an option on a PS5, but yes, there should be an option that allows you to choose between "Quality Mode" and "Performance Mode". Just switch it to Quality Mode and that should do it. Just leave it at that, and don't worry about it anymore. I hope that helps. I apologize if I don't know what VRR is as I haven't had a chance to look at the options menu yet.
@@TheBlakReaper My only options are to choose "Performance Mode" or "Resolution Mode". There is no "Quality Mode" option on my PS5 menu I have just checked.
@@joshfulcifan1015, you'll want "Resolution Mode".
60fps all the way. Im not playing a slide show just so a rock can be alittle sharper.
NGL I like graphics mode more.
graphics mode is blurry as heck, I had just finished Yakuza 8 on my OLED connected to my PC at 4K and then started FF7R and I was very disappointed because of how bad it looks.
Is the foliage pop in normal
For an UE4 game on consoles? Yes.
why the dog is riding the bird as a human :D
30 fps is such a joke in 2024. just shows how limited consoles still are compared to a standard gaming pc and maybe it´s also a lack of effort from the dev side aswell. you are not even getting a clear picture in performance mode altough most settings are already turned low to mid.
Motion blur makes the game worse and chopier it's very demanding to make it look like shit what I wish is they would use a different scaling method for performance and make sure depth of field emotion blur is completely off
Hahaha truly a next gen experience hahaha
That's why you need ps5 pro
I hope will be games that's drop ps5 to 20fps
I want console to push to the maximum limits
😂 I remember the PS4 Pro, what a joke, you had to pause the game side by side with the PS4 to see the extra pixel in the image 😂
@@rafaelrobles5494it is about playing the quality mode in 60fps this time. if you dont see a difference in the demo between performance or quality mode - fine. i cant play the game with the normal ps5, as performance mode is super blurry to my eyes and quality mode is too much stutter...i hope ps5 pro can fix this. it is rumored to have a form of dlss onboard, to enable high quality mode for only little costs on performance. lets hope...
Still no proof there is one. The fact Sony lost 10 billion or more is likely had them reconsidering a new console this year. You can’t believe TH-camrs who just make money off rumours either. Look at the ones who were completely wrong about Microsoft and what was being allowed to be third party yet they went on and on about that nonsense like it was the end of Xbox lol
@@DEVILTAZ35yea, basically only the games coming to other platforms are shovelware titles.
And ps4 pro din't dubble the fps once a game was set for 30 fps it was it.
Yeah this is weird you can't even make put Clouds face its that blurry in Performance mode..
People defending it saying its coz it big and open compared to Remake but yer Assassin's Creed Odyssey blows it away on console in visual fidelity at 60fps
I cant tell a difference except performance seems blurry. So 4k wins
You can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 frames per second? I envy you lol
@@huzidamasta, I'm kinda the same way too. I can see the camera difference only when the camera turns or moves, and the difference between 30 and 60 look slightly different with how smooth it moves, however, during fight scenes, it's hardly noticeable. I think in all honesty, after an hour playing in 30, your brain will stop noticing the difference.
@TheBlakReaper Well scientifically, the opposite is true. The more your brain is conditioned with one, the more likely it becomes that you'll notice a difference. That's just fact.
After 30 mins of playing you'll get used to it, but if you then switched over, I'd be gobsmacked if you didn't notice the difference. I'd argue the individual is visually impaired if they couldn't see the obvious difference.
It goes without saying that it's harder to detect when the camera isn't moving. We're talking about frames here. But regardless, it's hardly relevant when we're talking about a game where the camera's moving most of the time.
It makes no sense this resolution, switch games at 720p looks more sharp.
It's unacceptable graphics mode being unplayable
I've never played a game in graphics mode so bad like this one, it's a slideshow and the graphics are still not amazing...then I switch to performance and I still get random fps drops on some situations and the graphics decay a lot
It's been 4 years since the Remake and to be fair, it had better graphics and better performance...what happened here?
remake was a corridor simulator, rebirth has open world with vast areas. use your brain.
@@arandan666 so? it's 2024, they fucked up like they always do. You have 2018 open world games with better graphics and performance such as God of War for example, I would tell you to use yours too but you don't have one
This game does not push the limit of the PS5 not even close. FF16 that looked way better speaking about graphics and that game as well didn't push the limits of the PS5. The game that truly gonna push the PS5 limits for real is GTA6 in 2025.
Ff16 has constant frame drops pretty much everywhere outside of combat. I 100% the game and loved it but it ran like dogshit. These games either need to be optimized better or put on the PC to truly shine. It really hurts the experience getting fps drops to 40/30/20 I mean cmon it's 2024
I thin aeris is for zack, tifa is for cloud
Yeah.. I'll wait for the Pc version, looks like a 2005 game on performance mode..
If you want high end graphics AND fps, get a gaming PC and wait for the port. The PS5 uses a the equivalent of a 2070. What do you expect?
Games like HZD, Spider Man, God of War Ragnarök, TLOU 2 and Ghost of Tsushima looks great in 60 FPS mode. I expect better optimization.
Its not about GPU, 2070 super is equivalent to a PS5 gpu and dont think this GPU is not worth for gaming. Its the devs who make broken games. Its not the machine's fault.
The last of us, FF7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, Forbidden West, Death Stranding etc are perfect example PS5 can run games pretty well
Its OPTIMIZATION what matters.
Not PC with 4080 to run broken games and flex
@@fastica the difference is those games only have 1 character your playing with, this game have 3 plus 2 or more on background you can still see them far away during battles. if you combine all of the resources and codes of all those characters in the same scene plus all of the animation for each skills of those 3 characters plus interactions to enemy graphics wise and numbers behind this is really a very heavy game for any system to process. Plus open world game without loading time is a very heavy resources as it will render all of the asset and load all of the objects animations, graphics and its behind the scenes numbers if it will shows on the screen. For example if your playing on low end system like a pc some games will run better in an enclose area like inside the house or a dungeon but worse to a much more open areas. I am not defending the devs but SE looks like behind on the technical stuff compare to western devs. I also read an interview that they struggle in this aspect starting around ps3 era and just catching up until this era. I really like the design of the game were you using mutliple characters, its like you have tekken which you can control multiple characters and combine it to horizon map with 3rd person view.
Well why do they keep pushing the graphics on these games if the console the game is made for is not powerful enough to handle it? Why not scale things back to get a game that looks good and runs good?
not that bad on performance kinda depends on personal prefrence i guess
My guy is teleporting from place to place during the fights, the performance is so bad on Graphics mode. But the Graphics look like 💩 on performance mode. Guess I gotta wait a couple months