Honestly I would argue it's worth throwing another $200 or so at the PC hardware is a fair comparison... but remember, you are paying up front on a PC... that console will charge you that extra cash over time in the form of online fees. $10 a month minimum adds up.
I agree, I think around $750 would get you a PC pretty close but that's starting from zero and there is an upfront cost. But going forward you can reuse the case, power supply, storage drives, etc.
@@oblivieon1567 Honestly wasnt even considering the reuse when I said that. Just the from scratch... but then I tend to hand down the machines so I never kept anything to build with... and Im still pretty samn certain I'm breaking even on my builds. I just get more custimzation out of it (why I wont go console anymore)
Definitely depends on the person, but between Online Membership Fees, Steam Sales, Not having to rebuy games every few generations, etc, quite a bit of monetary value is added to the PC.
@@Jal3nJ0HN50N Games like GTA 5. Basically, any PS5 version of a game you had on PS4, except for a few titles that are specifically designed to fully utilize the PS5's power. By the way, I have both a PS5 and a PC.
This is why I switched to pc. I even bought bo3 for custom zombies. I love it so much so far. The only one I want to re-buy yet is Cold War, but I have to wait for another steam sale…
@@drogotwitchfor how long? Can you still play your PS3 games? And, for your digital PS4 games, how many got an update to run better on PS5? Something like Bloodborne runs on the same settings on PS4 vs PS5. I have 10 year old games from my steam account that I can just crank up the settings and play on modern hardware with higher resolution and FPS.
nah... base $700 + $30 for the base + $400 for online fees. Starting average player may not want or need the disc drive, but they WILL want online (5 years at $80 a year) so $1130 is a GOOD starting point here. (And this one I would place bets PC wins hands down)
been pc gamer whole life and last year i got ps5 and series x and i dont wanna go back.i just hit the play button and i know it will work 100% no need to fix drivers,windows update or game crashes.If i had no kids i would prolly be 100% pc gamer.
I've always been both. I think there are console games and there are PC games; so there's a reason to have both. MMORPG = PC. Simulation, Strategy, RTS, Competitive Shooter = PC. ARPG (for me), RPG, Comfy Shooter, Adventure, Platformer, FIghting, Racing = Console
as a ex owner of a ps5, series x and recently new to pc gaming..its not even close. The catalogues of games, emulation, tailored settings, filters, upgradability, not being forced to pay fees to play multiplayer games online, multiple monitors..the list goes on. Glad i made the move, shouldve done it sooner.
You are forgetting the 4K UHD BluRay Player that is in the Series X. As a consumer of 4K physical media, that is important to me. So that will add at least $125 or more to the cost of your PC.
@@tylerfreal6472 last console I owned was a brand new ps2. I was a teenager. It's been all pc's since then. I don't like spending money on something that's going to be outdated within a couple years and no possibility for upgrade other than just replacing the entire thing.
Had a series x for a little while and by all means if you are strictly about gaming only its unlikely to build a pc around the same price to performance especially since you can find used consoles for less than 300 bucks now. However after building my pc I see the almost limitless bounds that you can do with one. Ryzen 5 5600 with rx6800 i have no issues playing any game at or above console settings as well as the crazy amount of other things i can do as well. Its an investment overall.
A way to fix the issue at 12:08 is to either have a controller plugged in or before you start up Fortnite turn off the controller and start up Fortnite with the keyboard connected to the Xbox (pressing enter or space on the app). Also don’t turn the controller back on as it will do the same again if it turns off, hope this helps.
As a lifelong console player who just recently got my first PC capable of gaming the #1 reason for PC Gaming is MODS!!! The amount of cool stuff available for games like GTA, RDR2 and many many others makes it worth getting a PC alone. I didn't realize how much I was missing out on until I found out about 5M, LSPDFR and other mods that just makes games more fun especially after you've played them for awhile. The mods in some cases make it like having completely new games.
I tried reading the comments, but there were a bunch on inaccuracies. If the point of this video is to honestly compare and not just try to trash consoles, then these things need to be addressed. 1. Free 2 Play titles do not need a subscription to play. If you only play Esports titles, then the console is a very attractive place to play. 2. Most titles (including the ones in this video) have optimization options for performance over graphics (just like pc, although capped at 120). There are a lot of games locked to 30fps on the console (this PC could not play) that a higher end PC could run at 60 or 120 fps. 3. There is an FPS counter in the Fornite settings (not sure about Warzone). 4. Game pass core (replaced Xbox Live Gold) is $10 a month, which is the retail cost of a newer game and includes a rotating list of 25 popular titles and online mutiplayer. Gamepass for PC is $11 a month and includes a few hundred games, and all Xbox first party games (Xbox Studios, Bethesda, Activision, and Blizzard)drop day one on Gamepass for no addional charge. Triple A titles can cost $60 or $70 a piece on launch. Gamepass Ultimate includes both of those subscriptions with the same benefits plus a Perks rewards (free add ons for a few rotating games, deals on Discord Nitro, Apple Music/TV, TH-cam, etc). For $20 a month. Its not just online pay to play. There is real value here. 5. Backward compatibility. The Series X/S plays every Xbox One title except for Kinect titles due to dropped support. It plays every 360 and OG Xbox title that the Xbox One did as well. But, the number of games it can play pales in comparison to PC when considering the PC can play mostly anything. 6. Mod support. Few Xbox games contain support for mods. Those that do have a very narrow amount when compared to the PC. I have played a ton of Skyrim on console. When the mod support came, it was fantastic! Then i would notice a really cool mod online and would try to download it only to find it was PC only. 7. Exclusivity. Since this is an Xbox to PC comparison, I will leave out Playstation and Nintendo. Unless it is an older title or 3rd party, there are no Xbox console exclusives. Every new Xbox Studios game comes to PC day one. 8. Grand Theft Auto 6. The last point I will make is that GTA6 does not have a launch date for PC. It will remain on consoles for an extended period. This will be the biggest game release in quite a while. If you are a GTA fan, this will be enough to entice you to buy a console. I hope this was informative to someone. I really liked the video! Thank you for making it Toasty Bros.!
Good old pc gaming, huge pain in the ass to get some games running. I was a pc gamer from about 1995 until a couple of years ago. I gave my pc to my brother and never looked back
It might sound weird but if you play Spotify on the Xbox you controller doesn’t disconnect random bc when the song changes it keeps you connected connect.(so basically play Spotify and turn the volume off so you can’t tell you are playing music and the controller won’t disconnect) . Love the content btw
Honestly I would just buy the 500 dollar PC because of the upgrade path later on which makes it more worth it in the long run. Not to mention there is many things you can do on PC that you just can't on a console.
@zach4182 "upgrade path" is essentially supported chipset and high capacity power supply. At $500 you're not getting a newer chipset, so unless you consider older parts and low power draw components an upgrade, there isn't an upgrade path. Which would be valid. But to me, AM5 has a true upgrade path because it will be supported in the future. But if you're describing something like starting with an R5 3600 with the intention to get a 5800X3D, then I would concede that you technically have an upgrade path.
I also always mention to folks that it's useful for so much more than gaming, and the versatility and upgradability is huge! But consols are great options if you're a set it and forget it kind of person.
There’s always these comparisons of equally-priced PCs and consoles, but it’s worth remembering that most console players will still need to buy a PC anyways for other productivity stuff. So if you’d pay $500 for the console and even just $400 for a cheap PC, you can get a good gaming PC for the same $900 as the other two together. It’ll hold up well against the console and be a much better computer for the other stuff than any $400 PC would have been.
Same, I've played exclusively on consoles since they came out, I'm old. I bought a gaming PC a month ago and there is a big difference, the PC is much better.
I’m the opposite, I was a pc gamer for over 20 years and switched to consoles a couple of years back. I got so sick of having to tinker with games to get them running right
Also I'm very impressed by the performance of my rx 6600, I get over 120 fps on everything and 120 on warzone ultra settings it jumps to 200+ sometimes. I have an aio coming in a couple days to replace my wraith cooler, my 5700x hates me for not getting an aio day one it's constantly going to 80+ Celsius when gaming.
This is why I love Toasty Bros: no console war bs. They don't have any bias, they give you the facts and that's it. Console is cheaper point of entry, but PC has more potential in the long run. Yes, there are many more points for both the console and PC, but this comment is already long enough. Play where you want, it doesn't matter as long as YOU are happy
I own an Xbox series x and a Nintendo switch and just bought a Lenovo LOQ as my very 1st gaming PC. It has an RTX3050. This video was good for those afraid to make the plunge to pc gaming. Maybe do the same where you compare both consoles to a mid range pc and a top tier pc. So they can see what they could have.
I have both and use both accordingly. Console for some games since my pc is “old” with a 9th gen intel and 2060 but runs a few titles well and whatever I can’t run on pc just run on xbox love both 💯
@@SciFiDude79 i don’t know, i usually see better discounts over on pc rather than console. then again i don’t usually buy games or play the newest titles. Steam usually has lots of sales practically every month or so, and they do have a wider library of games compared to Xbox and Playstation.
Xbox only does deals for 2 star trash games that aren't selling. You can check what sales are going on and decide for yourself. Also look at that price tag for black ops 2. Which is an xbox 360 game they are selling for $49.99 12 years later.....
Something I'd say is important to consider is if you want or need to use a computer for anything other than gaming. If you're only wanting or needing to play games, the consoles are likely a better value, at least in my opinion, but if you are also wanting to browse the internet, youtube, facebook, do research, write papers or use other Office type apps, the computer can easily do all of that AND play games.
@@eytbitsas a PC owner I don't get the hate for laptops. I have a laptop, desktop and a console and I tend to find myself on the laptop way more. Even though it's not eh equivalent of its desktop brother. It don't stutter or slow down a bit.
With the sheer amount of game available on PC, I'd go that route just about any day of the week. I'd try to scrounge up closer to $700 as the budget though, you'll get a much nicer starting experience. Being able to afford to spend $250-300 on the GPU will make a pretty big difference.
I just purchased my first ever pre build pc as a birthday gift to myself I'm so excited to receive it, I know I'm going to be gaming for YEEEEEEEEEEARS to come. I haven't touched my series s in god knows how long it just sits there. I got into gaming on my laptop after buying the acer swift x sfx14 that you guys recommend buying a while ago.
A little late here. But pc all the way for me .started with console but i like the ability to change out hardware for improvements, experiments testing etc etc . Also i like the challenge of keeping files clean and orginizing folders to keep things running optimal. So many more options with pc like livestreaming with obs setting up my own custom audio through a soundboard xlr Mic setups and software option's are unlimted .
If you just want to play modern games, i think the Series S is a godsend. But getting into the PC world is great for exclusives, steam sales, and upgradeability down the road.
The one thing I sell on someone getting a Pc is that a lot of games you will be able to mod them and depending on the game for example skyrim you can mod like crazy and make the game look like a remake.
Hello, I have a question about the mouse poll rate on the Xbox Series X. Does it support 1000hz on the Xbox, whether the mouse or the controller, and is there a response delay compared to the PC?
With $200 more you can build a PC that matches the console, since I'm looking at an RX 6750 for $250 and a 12600K for $160, which you can also change for a Ryzen 5700x and the rest of the components, choosing well you already have a pretty good PC for $700.
If that's used pricing then you can consider a 300 dollar used PS5/x to be fair no? 500 to 700 is about a 40% price increase too so yeah that's probably worth it to some.
6700 is the equivalent gpu to the ps5, and 6700xt is pretty much equivalent to the Xbox series X. The 6700 is unavailable in my area, the 6700xt is $299, and the 6750xt is $329. That's why i went with the 6800 for $380. I run native 4k high with a ryzen 7 5800, get 70-100fps. I have a total of $950 in my build after selling the old graphics card. But having said all that, I bought my son and Xbox series x and run his on a 4k tv, and when I play warzone on the Xbox, it's pretty hard to tell a difference. If you took the fps counter away and just played, you'd be puzzled.
@@labiatesyea they never do that math. For some reason they act like used parts is only exclusive to them. $300-$350 with a controller is simply something you can’t replicate…. So they make a million amendments. “But if you just……” I know buddy it’s ok.
Besides what was mentioned already about the subscriptions fees of having a Console I would add the cost saving of buying games from sales on Steam. I mean that is a big big saving by the end.
The only game I can't get to stay at a locked frame rate is warzone, in Fortnite you set a fps limit and it rarely goes above it and even rare drops. But most games you just set it to 144 or 120 if it's dropping at 240 or 165 and it will only move while loading into games.
Xbox game files are up to 50% smaller than their PC counterparts. PCs have to be much more powerful as a result. It's a bit like comparing apples to oranges Or High quality graphics to Budget quality graphics. Or, you get what you paid for.
Wtf are u talking abt, the reason is because xbox has much less quality and it's much more bitcrunched than pc games like cyberpunk, you can search it up if you don't believe me. Pc's are just better in every way and we can go online without paying $70 a year which amounts to an extra $420 for 6 years of active use of a new console and much likely a ton more than that number because people don't just buy the newest console any time it comes out. Also a pc worth $1,000 is much better value than what we would get with a xbox or Playstation because its not just gaming as we can do other stuff like study and multitask.
If you take Cod Modern warfare 3 it requires more space on consoles by 15% and so do most other games because of the lack of raw graphics power and refinement.
I understand that games are more optimized for consoles and consoles have a different type of architecture but I'm not familiar with what you're talking about so if you could leave any information it would be appreciated
honestly these ppl are the best i prefer them over carterpcs and ztt bc these ppl care soo much for the budget used ballers and even benchmark it in games its actually entertaining to watch it
I built my PC and have the Series X. Gonna need it for GTA VI, until they decide when it'll be released for PC. I am a PC guy all day but don't underestimate the Consoles. The Quality they produce from the APU is amazing.
I mean with PC you don't have to pay monthly to play games online, so you would save $10 a month. The average console life is 5 years so over the consoles life you are going to pay $300 just to play online. You can get into PC gaming so cheap now compared to 10 years ago.
I had an Xbox Series X, I bought it about a year ago, had it for about six months, sold it, and bought a Legion Pro 5 earlier this year around Mother's Day on sale with a 4070 and will never go back. My only complaint about this laptop is the 4070 only has 8 gigs of vram. I think next time I'll get something with at least 16 even if I have to spend another Grand to get it.
I have both a PS5 and a PC but I use them for different things. On my PS5 I have usually turn based rpg's like Persona 5, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth as well as the rest of the Like a Dragon games, and certain exclusives like Gran Turismo 7, Shadow of the Colossus (my favorite game of all time), and Demons Souls Remake. The PS5 is hooked up to a 4K 44 inch TV. My PC has other games like ones you can heavily mod like Skyrim, Cylerpunk 2077 and so on. I also play certain competetive games like Rainbow Six Siege, which benefits greatly from hight framerates and refresh rate. Other games I play on PC are Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3, Black Ops 3 (Modded zombies maps with friends is so much fun), Clone Hero, Warframe, and other miscellaneous games only available on PC storefronts. My main monitor is 27 inches 1440p resolution, 240Hz refresh rate.
This is why buying used is best for things like the gpu. You can get RTX 2080ti's for $200. 1080ti's for sub 150, etc. The market is so inflated with the cost of new stuff, I always recommend people buy used when helping them build a system.
I played console only for decades, but always personally enjoyed the Keyboard and Mouse. Now as for being able to just boot up games and play whatever, you're going to 100% be able to do that with 99.9% of the games you load on console, for PC, it's a good 40% because games now and days are BIG and you will only have like 4-5 games at a time that you can play (if you play modern games). I would suggest getting both since I love being able to use apps like Discord, OBS, VoiceMod, and emiuators such as Bluestacks and various console ones. If you're someone who just wants to play games after work, get a console, 100%.
You should do a used PC at the same price point of the refurbished console for comparison or maybe see how much it'd cost to build comparable PCs on both the new and used market.
9:35 the GPU is actually based on the same GPU used in the RX 6700 10GB. I believe the CPU is very similar in architecture to the Ryzen 5 4500G. Might be closer the PS5 specs. Someone made a video about it…
I play on both. I have a Switch, PS5, Xbox Series S (shared), & PC. As well as a decent console collection that includes PS2, PS3, PS4, GameCube, & Wii. It depends on what I'm playing and who I'm playing with.
Just got my first gaming PC, need a computer for work, and am taking some online classes. Sold my series X to go towards the PC. Wish I would have gotten into PC gaming way sooner. I did, however, spend a little more than $500 on the PC, but it's been worth it.
The PC is by a significant margin the better value proposition. Advantages include no extra fees just to have the ability to game online, better deals on games, more versaitlity (can be used as a work PC), aesthetics are customizable, and most importantly: it has an upgrade path. The only advantage that consoles provide is that they are more affordable upfront.
The fact that we are still trying to build a PC to beat an Xbox Series X with price to performance just shows how good the Xbox Series X is. If we are talking about gaming alone, then yes, the Xbox Series X beats everything in price to performance.
How am I at 3 minutes and have ZERO clue what sort of GPU that Gigabyte is? RX 6600 at 6:03. Well, new that's a good option. Micro Center had the newest AMD 8c/16t with an AM5 motherboard AND 32gb of DDR5 for $360. You could have put the savings (without the DDR4 memory) into an RX 6600 XT. Also, I got my RX 6600 XT for $150 used in November 2022.
The PC will always do much better. I played on consoles since they came out, I'm a senior gamer at 63 years old, I bought a prebuilt per you guys and I'll never look back again, goodbye console gaming forever.
Nah definitely not at console price bro, my 3060 ti 5800X3D custom build is worse and in some games much worse than my PS5. RIft apart has RT and higher res on PS5, MW3 looks sharper, better and also runs at 120 stable unlike my PC. The PC will only do better at much higher prices and much better HW.
And another thing is I don’t think your pushing the xbox series x full compatibility, like did you enable 120hz, 4k, HDR, auto HDR, Dolby vision, VRR etc and another thing is you should’ve had the PC set to 4k native and use upscale to make it more fair same goes for the list up too what I said
the fact that console manufacturers offer their consoles at a price where they don't make a profit and plan to make people buy their stuff (subscription, peripherals or first party games) makes consoles always beat gaming pcs
Where can I get the classic Counter Strike 1.6 shirt? And about the video topic: On a console, you are much more limited in so many areas. That is the big trade off for the better performance.
I used to be a PC gamer back in the ATI days and the problem with budget PC is that youll have to wait for the minimum requirements and 🤞🤞wish you budget card can run the game. The biggest drawback for consoles is actually the paid online multiplayer. But in 2024 PC gamepass for pretty much half the price of console and the free multiplayer i think PC gaming is the way to go for a couple of extra bucks. Plus you have steam deck.
if you turn the xbox on with the power buton on the console you can use arrow keys to navigate and the enter key to select. that will disable the issue with the controller falling asleep
Gotta remember, the series x with the right setup gets a static 120 fps across nearly all titles including the new ones. Some budget gaming pcs only put out 70-95fps. One of my laptops (hp victus) does this when connected to an external monitor but on device it’s 100-118 fps static across nearly all titles except Ark survival ascended.
The subscription is only needed for multiplayer game modes unless the game is free, so it only needs to be mentioned if you play strictly multiplayer and or want to play one that isn't free games.
@@chrismorris5236 No you don't? Lol? Nobody uses Norton. We use Windows Defender, which is free. Norton trial is just something that comes with most prebuilt PCs which stops after the free trial. No clue where you got that from.
It seems like you guys still mix up frame time and latency. The number next to you FPS on your MSI overlay is the frame time. Simply 1/FPS so it fluctuates proportionally with fps and says the same thing basically. Latency is a bit harder to measure but that is what especially Jackson is talking about a lot
what your forgetting is that pc has alot of AA settings that an be adjusted to get higher framerates with lower drops while console you dont even see those settings
I'd just go with PC, especially with emulators, you can relive your childhood games. Also the upgrade path is just worth it. You get a choice to upgrade and have a better experience
Hey guys I need help my pc is ryzen 5 5560x and gpu rx 6650 xt 16 gb ram but the warzone game I didn't feel it smouth just my mouse is 5 dollar mous 😁can the mouse make the problem? Plss help 👍👋
Pc will still be better, I’ve had mine for about 7 years now and if I would’ve payed monthly $10 to just play online then I would’ve been down $840!! It’s the best decision I ever made switching to PC
Can you please make a Steam machine! would love to see each of you make your own version of one and compare performance between the two in gaming! Bazzite looks really interesting been considering building a pc just for that since its like console experience
I don't know why are people saying you fell off, atleast ya'all didn't try and get a free Case from a junkyard or smth 😂. Honest and good quality work from you guys
ironically i traded my xbox series x for a pc then ive upgraded it myself and there is a huge difference in the way i play my games and also gives an opportunity for customization to every little part of my setup to however or whatever I want, other than a console you can only put some stickers or a wrap on it but ig that would also argue w budget
its simple, if you just want to game with your bros, get a console, but if you actually spend time online and do more than just game, your gonna want a PC, it may be a little more expensive for a good PC, but as a pc owner and builder, im so happy that i spent a couple hundred dollars more than a console cost, PC over console (just my opinion)
Im an xbox player and want to know if i switch to PC can i switch over my achievements or will i have to restart the achievement system or how does that work
Honestly I would argue it's worth throwing another $200 or so at the PC hardware is a fair comparison... but remember, you are paying up front on a PC... that console will charge you that extra cash over time in the form of online fees. $10 a month minimum adds up.
I agree, I think around $750 would get you a PC pretty close but that's starting from zero and there is an upfront cost. But going forward you can reuse the case, power supply, storage drives, etc.
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@@oblivieon1567 Honestly wasnt even considering the reuse when I said that. Just the from scratch... but then I tend to hand down the machines so I never kept anything to build with... and Im still pretty samn certain I'm breaking even on my builds. I just get more custimzation out of it (why I wont go console anymore)
ok then if you want it to be fair. you better add the cost of the mouse and keyboard and any upgrades you do to your pc over the years
Plus on PC you can use it for far many things than a console
Definitely depends on the person, but between Online Membership Fees, Steam Sales, Not having to rebuy games every few generations, etc, quite a bit of monetary value is added to the PC.
I was gonna ask what games you had to rebuy, then immediately thought of black ops 3, but going from xbox1 to series what games have you had to rebuy?
@@Jal3nJ0HN50N Games like GTA 5. Basically, any PS5 version of a game you had on PS4, except for a few titles that are specifically designed to fully utilize the PS5's power. By the way, I have both a PS5 and a PC.
This is why I switched to pc. I even bought bo3 for custom zombies. I love it so much so far. The only one I want to re-buy yet is Cold War, but I have to wait for another steam sale…
@11MT01 you must be doing it wrong cuz I was able to get all my digital games again from my account.
@@drogotwitchfor how long? Can you still play your PS3 games? And, for your digital PS4 games, how many got an update to run better on PS5? Something like Bloodborne runs on the same settings on PS4 vs PS5.
I have 10 year old games from my steam account that I can just crank up the settings and play on modern hardware with higher resolution and FPS.
$800-$850 PC Build vs PS5 Pro. The pro with its disc drive and stand is around $800 so I think that will be a fair price range for PC.
nah... base $700 + $30 for the base + $400 for online fees. Starting average player may not want or need the disc drive, but they WILL want online (5 years at $80 a year) so $1130 is a GOOD starting point here. (And this one I would place bets PC wins hands down)
or a $500 series x with with game pass and it woudl take a $1200 pre built pc to beat it.
been pc gamer whole life and last year i got ps5 and series x and i dont wanna go back.i just hit the play button and i know it will work 100% no need to fix drivers,windows update or game crashes.If i had no kids i would prolly be 100% pc gamer.
Yeah most PC gamers are just lonely people who gaming I'd life for 😂
Had the same issue when I went over console is so hassle free
I'm a PC lover and a console hater. But I have to agree with you that consoles are great for plug and play
I've always been both. I think there are console games and there are PC games; so there's a reason to have both. MMORPG = PC. Simulation, Strategy, RTS, Competitive Shooter = PC. ARPG (for me), RPG, Comfy Shooter, Adventure, Platformer, FIghting, Racing = Console
PC gamer here. I have a series x. Honestly, I hope console gaming never goes away. Sometimes I just want to chill on my couch and play some matches.
That counterstrike shirt, good memory's. I hear the sound in my head when the mouse goes over the buttons haha
as a ex owner of a ps5, series x and recently new to pc gaming..its not even close. The catalogues of games, emulation, tailored settings, filters, upgradability, not being forced to pay fees to play multiplayer games online, multiple monitors..the list goes on.
Glad i made the move, shouldve done it sooner.
Agreed 👍🏻
@tonycollazorappo can't believe I was a console glazer for so long, missed out all this on pc shit 😅
Bonehead move. I always wanted a PC even as a kid. Never too late to join the club. Welcome
You still have to buy games unless you have game pass or something like that.
@@codycrabtree3684 Duh. Thank you Captain Obvious
You are forgetting the 4K UHD BluRay Player that is in the Series X. As a consumer of 4K physical media, that is important to me. So that will add at least $125 or more to the cost of your PC.
LG Electronics BP60NB10 Ultra Slim Portable Hybrid Drive UHD 4K/Blu-ray/DVD+/-RW Drive is 100 new so you can probably find something for 50-80
PC can be used for many other things that a console can never imagine
Optical media? Join the rest of us here in 2024. Lol
@@FINNIUSORION do u not own console lol ? if u not getting the disc version might as well get a pc or the last gen which isint even sold dig only
@@tylerfreal6472 last console I owned was a brand new ps2. I was a teenager. It's been all pc's since then. I don't like spending money on something that's going to be outdated within a couple years and no possibility for upgrade other than just replacing the entire thing.
Had a series x for a little while and by all means if you are strictly about gaming only its unlikely to build a pc around the same price to performance especially since you can find used consoles for less than 300 bucks now. However after building my pc I see the almost limitless bounds that you can do with one. Ryzen 5 5600 with rx6800 i have no issues playing any game at or above console settings as well as the crazy amount of other things i can do as well. Its an investment overall.
A way to fix the issue at 12:08 is to either have a controller plugged in or before you start up Fortnite turn off the controller and start up Fortnite with the keyboard connected to the Xbox (pressing enter or space on the app). Also don’t turn the controller back on as it will do the same again if it turns off, hope this helps.
As a lifelong console player who just recently got my first PC capable of gaming the #1 reason for PC Gaming is MODS!!! The amount of cool stuff available for games like GTA, RDR2 and many many others makes it worth getting a PC alone. I didn't realize how much I was missing out on until I found out about 5M, LSPDFR and other mods that just makes games more fun especially after you've played them for awhile. The mods in some cases make it like having completely new games.
If a game needs mods it's not a good game. 😂😂😂
@@johnnylawrence7509 RDR2 objectively the best game OAT
@@KidsOnKet 1) The game doesn't need mods. That's for damn sure.
2) OoT says hi.
@@johnnylawrence7509oot ain't even the best Zelda game
@@beautifulhistory5656 Better go look at scores kid.
I tried reading the comments, but there were a bunch on inaccuracies.
If the point of this video is to honestly compare and not just try to trash consoles, then these things need to be addressed.
1. Free 2 Play titles do not need a subscription to play. If you only play Esports titles, then the console is a very attractive place to play.
2. Most titles (including the ones in this video) have optimization options for performance over graphics (just like pc, although capped at 120). There are a lot of games locked to 30fps on the console (this PC could not play) that a higher end PC could run at 60 or 120 fps.
3. There is an FPS counter in the Fornite settings (not sure about Warzone).
4. Game pass core (replaced Xbox Live Gold) is $10 a month, which is the retail cost of a newer game and includes a rotating list of 25 popular titles and online mutiplayer. Gamepass for PC is $11 a month and includes a few hundred games, and all Xbox first party games (Xbox Studios, Bethesda, Activision, and Blizzard)drop day one on Gamepass for no addional charge. Triple A titles can cost $60 or $70 a piece on launch. Gamepass Ultimate includes both of those subscriptions with the same benefits plus a Perks rewards (free add ons for a few rotating games, deals on Discord Nitro, Apple Music/TV, TH-cam, etc). For $20 a month. Its not just online pay to play. There is real value here.
5. Backward compatibility. The Series X/S plays every Xbox One title except for Kinect titles due to dropped support. It plays every 360 and OG Xbox title that the Xbox One did as well. But, the number of games it can play pales in comparison to PC when considering the PC can play mostly anything.
6. Mod support. Few Xbox games contain support for mods. Those that do have a very narrow amount when compared to the PC. I have played a ton of Skyrim on console. When the mod support came, it was fantastic! Then i would notice a really cool mod online and would try to download it only to find it was PC only.
7. Exclusivity. Since this is an Xbox to PC comparison, I will leave out Playstation and Nintendo. Unless it is an older title or 3rd party, there are no Xbox console exclusives. Every new Xbox Studios game comes to PC day one.
8. Grand Theft Auto 6. The last point I will make is that GTA6 does not have a launch date for PC. It will remain on consoles for an extended period. This will be the biggest game release in quite a while. If you are a GTA fan, this will be enough to entice you to buy a console.
I hope this was informative to someone. I really liked the video! Thank you for making it Toasty Bros.!
Good old pc gaming, huge pain in the ass to get some games running. I was a pc gamer from about 1995 until a couple of years ago. I gave my pc to my brother and never looked back
It might sound weird but if you play Spotify on the Xbox you controller doesn’t disconnect random bc when the song changes it keeps you connected connect.(so basically play Spotify and turn the volume off so you can’t tell you are playing music and the controller won’t disconnect) . Love the content btw
Honestly I would just buy the 500 dollar PC because of the upgrade path later on which makes it more worth it in the long run. Not to mention there is many things you can do on PC that you just can't on a console.
At that price point you're not getting much of an upgrade path for components in that price range
@@rasluffi All of the parts for that PC are modern how is there not much of an upgrade path
@zach4182 "upgrade path" is essentially supported chipset and high capacity power supply. At $500 you're not getting a newer chipset, so unless you consider older parts and low power draw components an upgrade, there isn't an upgrade path. Which would be valid. But to me, AM5 has a true upgrade path because it will be supported in the future. But if you're describing something like starting with an R5 3600 with the intention to get a 5800X3D, then I would concede that you technically have an upgrade path.
I also always mention to folks that it's useful for so much more than gaming, and the versatility and upgradability is huge!
But consols are great options if you're a set it and forget it kind of person.
There’s always these comparisons of equally-priced PCs and consoles, but it’s worth remembering that most console players will still need to buy a PC anyways for other productivity stuff. So if you’d pay $500 for the console and even just $400 for a cheap PC, you can get a good gaming PC for the same $900 as the other two together. It’ll hold up well against the console and be a much better computer for the other stuff than any $400 PC would have been.
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I’ve always been a Console gamer but I’m getting a Pc soon .
I joined a few months ago, best decision I've made.
Same, I've played exclusively on consoles since they came out, I'm old. I bought a gaming PC a month ago and there is a big difference, the PC is much better.
Aye, goodluck bro it’s positively life changing
proud of you, my boi
I’m the opposite, I was a pc gamer for over 20 years and switched to consoles a couple of years back. I got so sick of having to tinker with games to get them running right
You gotta remember the series x was $500 4 YEARS AGO! Helluva deal if you got it on launch! I did and have been extremely pleased with it
Also I'm very impressed by the performance of my rx 6600, I get over 120 fps on everything and 120 on warzone ultra settings it jumps to 200+ sometimes. I have an aio coming in a couple days to replace my wraith cooler, my 5700x hates me for not getting an aio day one it's constantly going to 80+ Celsius when gaming.
Ad talks about microcenter opening august 23rd which is, obviously, in the past. May need to be updated.
This is why I love Toasty Bros: no console war bs. They don't have any bias, they give you the facts and that's it. Console is cheaper point of entry, but PC has more potential in the long run. Yes, there are many more points for both the console and PC, but this comment is already long enough.
Play where you want, it doesn't matter as long as YOU are happy
I own an Xbox series x and a Nintendo switch and just bought a Lenovo LOQ as my very 1st gaming PC. It has an RTX3050. This video was good for those afraid to make the plunge to pc gaming. Maybe do the same where you compare both consoles to a mid range pc and a top tier pc. So they can see what they could have.
You can eliminate the controller problem by taking out the batteries an plug the controller directly in via cable.
12:36 the fix is that you just have to keep it plugged in to the xbox. I have a xbox myself and this has happened to me.
I have both and use both accordingly. Console for some games since my pc is “old” with a 9th gen intel and 2060 but runs a few titles well and whatever I can’t run on pc just run on xbox love both 💯
What about a used 300/350 dollar ps5/x vs a 300/350 dollar pc
a used ps5 would be better, but you have to account for future purchases like subscriptions and barely any game discounts
That makes no sense have you watched the video ? At this point save more money and buy a pc for atleast 500$
@@geklautvonoma5644 bro completely missed the point.
@@SciFiDude79 i don’t know, i usually see better discounts over on pc rather than console. then again i don’t usually buy games or play the newest titles. Steam usually has lots of sales practically every month or so, and they do have a wider library of games compared to Xbox and Playstation.
Xbox only does deals for 2 star trash games that aren't selling. You can check what sales are going on and decide for yourself. Also look at that price tag for black ops 2. Which is an xbox 360 game they are selling for $49.99 12 years later.....
Something I'd say is important to consider is if you want or need to use a computer for anything other than gaming. If you're only wanting or needing to play games, the consoles are likely a better value, at least in my opinion, but if you are also wanting to browse the internet, youtube, facebook, do research, write papers or use other Office type apps, the computer can easily do all of that AND play games.
I went the third route: Series S for gaming and refurbished laptop for everyday tasks and retro emulation.
Didn’t even have to reach 500...
The series s has probably the best price for performance of any System right now
If u wanted to, you could emulate retro games up to ps2 on the series s/x.
Congrats. You got the worst of both worlds lol
@@eytbitsas a PC owner I don't get the hate for laptops. I have a laptop, desktop and a console and I tend to find myself on the laptop way more. Even though it's not eh equivalent of its desktop brother. It don't stutter or slow down a bit.
@@TravisTheSavage Who's hating? It's just widely recognized that a laptop always performs worse than its desktop counterparts.
u guys are gonna hit 10m one day keep it up guys
With the sheer amount of game available on PC, I'd go that route just about any day of the week. I'd try to scrounge up closer to $700 as the budget though, you'll get a much nicer starting experience. Being able to afford to spend $250-300 on the GPU will make a pretty big difference.
Switched to PC 5 years ago never going back I love just being able to upgrade my rig as needed or if I just want to
I just purchased my first ever pre build pc as a birthday gift to myself I'm so excited to receive it, I know I'm going to be gaming for YEEEEEEEEEEARS to come. I haven't touched my series s in god knows how long it just sits there. I got into gaming on my laptop after buying the acer swift x sfx14 that you guys recommend buying a while ago.
A little late here. But pc all the way for me .started with console but i like the ability to change out hardware for improvements, experiments testing etc etc . Also i like the challenge of keeping files clean and orginizing folders to keep things running optimal. So many more options with pc like livestreaming with obs setting up my own custom audio through a soundboard xlr Mic setups and software option's are unlimted .
If you just want to play modern games, i think the Series S is a godsend. But getting into the PC world is great for exclusives, steam sales, and upgradeability down the road.
The one thing I sell on someone getting a Pc is that a lot of games you will be able to mod them and depending on the game for example skyrim you can mod like crazy and make the game look like a remake.
Hello, I have a question about the mouse poll rate on the Xbox Series X. Does it support 1000hz on the Xbox, whether the mouse or the controller, and is there a response delay compared to the PC?
Warzone has a built in FPS counter in the settings you can turn on for consoles if you do future testing. Also, always turn off film grain.
With $200 more you can build a PC that matches the console, since I'm looking at an RX 6750 for $250 and a 12600K for $160, which you can also change for a Ryzen 5700x and the rest of the components, choosing well you already have a pretty good PC for $700.
If that's used pricing then you can consider a 300 dollar used PS5/x to be fair no? 500 to 700 is about a 40% price increase too so yeah that's probably worth it to some.
6700 is the equivalent gpu to the ps5, and 6700xt is pretty much equivalent to the Xbox series X. The 6700 is unavailable in my area, the 6700xt is $299, and the 6750xt is $329. That's why i went with the 6800 for $380. I run native 4k high with a ryzen 7 5800, get 70-100fps. I have a total of $950 in my build after selling the old graphics card. But having said all that, I bought my son and Xbox series x and run his on a 4k tv, and when I play warzone on the Xbox, it's pretty hard to tell a difference. If you took the fps counter away and just played, you'd be puzzled.
@@labiatesyea they never do that math. For some reason they act like used parts is only exclusive to them. $300-$350 with a controller is simply something you can’t replicate…. So they make a million amendments. “But if you just……” I know buddy it’s ok.
how he is waching him play sitting next to him gives me nostalgic vibes
Besides what was mentioned already about the subscriptions fees of having a Console I would add the cost saving of buying games from sales on Steam. I mean that is a big big saving by the end.
The only game I can't get to stay at a locked frame rate is warzone, in Fortnite you set a fps limit and it rarely goes above it and even rare drops. But most games you just set it to 144 or 120 if it's dropping at 240 or 165 and it will only move while loading into games.
Xbox game files are up to 50% smaller than their PC counterparts. PCs have to be much more powerful as a result. It's a bit like comparing apples to oranges Or High quality graphics to Budget quality graphics. Or, you get what you paid for.
Wtf are u talking abt, the reason is because xbox has much less quality and it's much more bitcrunched than pc games like cyberpunk, you can search it up if you don't believe me. Pc's are just better in every way and we can go online without paying $70 a year which amounts to an extra $420 for 6 years of active use of a new console and much likely a ton more than that number because people don't just buy the newest console any time it comes out. Also a pc worth $1,000 is much better value than what we would get with a xbox or Playstation because its not just gaming as we can do other stuff like study and multitask.
Pc holding up for many years as u upgrade unlike console.
If you take Cod Modern warfare 3 it requires more space on consoles by 15% and so do most other games because of the lack of raw graphics power and refinement.
I understand that games are more optimized for consoles and consoles have a different type of architecture but I'm not familiar with what you're talking about so if you could leave any information it would be appreciated
honestly these ppl are the best i prefer them over carterpcs and ztt bc these ppl
care soo much for the budget used ballers and even benchmark it in games its actually entertaining to watch it
I built my PC and have the Series X. Gonna need it for GTA VI, until they decide when it'll be released for PC. I am a PC guy all day but don't underestimate the Consoles. The Quality they produce from the APU is amazing.
I mean with PC you don't have to pay monthly to play games online, so you would save $10 a month. The average console life is 5 years so over the consoles life you are going to pay $300 just to play online. You can get into PC gaming so cheap now compared to 10 years ago.
When it’s possible to put a PC graphics card into a Xbox series X then it’s worth talking about consoles
I had an Xbox Series X, I bought it about a year ago, had it for about six months, sold it, and bought a Legion Pro 5 earlier this year around Mother's Day on sale with a 4070 and will never go back. My only complaint about this laptop is the 4070 only has 8 gigs of vram. I think next time I'll get something with at least 16 even if I have to spend another Grand to get it.
I have both a PS5 and a PC but I use them for different things.
On my PS5 I have usually turn based rpg's like Persona 5, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth as well as the rest of the Like a Dragon games, and certain exclusives like Gran Turismo 7, Shadow of the Colossus (my favorite game of all time), and Demons Souls Remake. The PS5 is hooked up to a 4K 44 inch TV.
My PC has other games like ones you can heavily mod like Skyrim, Cylerpunk 2077 and so on. I also play certain competetive games like Rainbow Six Siege, which benefits greatly from hight framerates and refresh rate. Other games I play on PC are Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3, Black Ops 3 (Modded zombies maps with friends is so much fun), Clone Hero, Warframe, and other miscellaneous games only available on PC storefronts. My main monitor is 27 inches 1440p resolution, 240Hz refresh rate.
This is why buying used is best for things like the gpu. You can get RTX 2080ti's for $200. 1080ti's for sub 150, etc. The market is so inflated with the cost of new stuff, I always recommend people buy used when helping them build a system.
I played console only for decades, but always personally enjoyed the Keyboard and Mouse. Now as for being able to just boot up games and play whatever, you're going to 100% be able to do that with 99.9% of the games you load on console, for PC, it's a good 40% because games now and days are BIG and you will only have like 4-5 games at a time that you can play (if you play modern games). I would suggest getting both since I love being able to use apps like Discord, OBS, VoiceMod, and emiuators such as Bluestacks and various console ones. If you're someone who just wants to play games after work, get a console, 100%.
It's been 4 years that these consoles are out now....i haven't had$ 500 in 4 years...this is 2024 I will buy them both
interesting video guys , love the comparison its a helpful guide to make a decision between pc or console
You should do a used PC at the same price point of the refurbished console for comparison or maybe see how much it'd cost to build comparable PCs on both the new and used market.
9:35 the GPU is actually based on the same GPU used in the RX 6700 10GB. I believe the CPU is very similar in architecture to the Ryzen 5 4500G. Might be closer the PS5 specs. Someone made a video about it…
I used to be a PC elitist but now i collect consoles and the series X is really attractive
They say second hand pc hardware can be risky... Seconds later 'we picked up this refurbished Xbox...' lol
I play on both. I have a Switch, PS5, Xbox Series S (shared), & PC. As well as a decent console collection that includes PS2, PS3, PS4, GameCube, & Wii. It depends on what I'm playing and who I'm playing with.
Just got my first gaming PC, need a computer for work, and am taking some online classes. Sold my series X to go towards the PC. Wish I would have gotten into PC gaming way sooner. I did, however, spend a little more than $500 on the PC, but it's been worth it.
The PC is by a significant margin the better value proposition. Advantages include no extra fees just to have the ability to game online, better deals on games, more versaitlity (can be used as a work PC), aesthetics are customizable, and most importantly: it has an upgrade path. The only advantage that consoles provide is that they are more affordable upfront.
NEXT video: Budget Gaming PC vs PS5 Pro Challenge!
That Counterstrike shirt SLAPS
Its always gunna be better in the long term to build the PC
12:08 the fix is to start the game without the controller connected, then it won’t ask
The fact that we are still trying to build a PC to beat an Xbox Series X with price to performance just shows how good the Xbox Series X is. If we are talking about gaming alone, then yes, the Xbox Series X beats everything in price to performance.
How am I at 3 minutes and have ZERO clue what sort of GPU that Gigabyte is? RX 6600 at 6:03. Well, new that's a good option.
Micro Center had the newest AMD 8c/16t with an AM5 motherboard AND 32gb of DDR5 for $360. You could have put the savings (without the DDR4 memory) into an RX 6600 XT. Also, I got my RX 6600 XT for $150 used in November 2022.
Used parts gets you that experience and more for $500 easy.
The PC will always do much better. I played on consoles since they came out, I'm a senior gamer at 63 years old, I bought a prebuilt per you guys and I'll never look back again, goodbye console gaming forever.
I console game and PC game, I live in both worlds.
@@Adam-Mei THE best combo
Love to hear it! Glad you're enjoying PC gaming!
Nah definitely not at console price bro, my 3060 ti 5800X3D custom build is worse and in some games much worse than my PS5. RIft apart has RT and higher res on PS5, MW3 looks sharper, better and also runs at 120 stable unlike my PC. The PC will only do better at much higher prices and much better HW.
LMFAO... Name 1 single great PC exclusive you're playing. I'll wait. 🤣🤣🤣
4:59 yeah thats funny, but people just said it lagged/smooth instead of fps, personally dont really remember, thats funny
And another thing is I don’t think your pushing the xbox series x full compatibility, like did you enable 120hz, 4k, HDR, auto HDR, Dolby vision, VRR etc and another thing is you should’ve had the PC set to 4k native and use upscale to make it more fair same goes for the list up too what I said
the fact that console manufacturers offer their consoles at a price where they don't make a profit and plan to make people buy their stuff (subscription, peripherals or first party games) makes consoles always beat gaming pcs
Is the pc really $500? Like exactly?
Where can I get the classic Counter Strike 1.6 shirt?
And about the video topic: On a console, you are much more limited in so many areas. That is the big trade off for the better performance.
I used to be a PC gamer back in the ATI days and the problem with budget PC is that youll have to wait for the minimum requirements and 🤞🤞wish you budget card can run the game. The biggest drawback for consoles is actually the paid online multiplayer. But in 2024 PC gamepass for pretty much half the price of console and the free multiplayer i think PC gaming is the way to go for a couple of extra bucks. Plus you have steam deck.
So unless you include the mouse and keyboard in that price this technically doesn’t compare. Xbox comes with a controller…..
I bought that Xbox for $300 bucks on sale at Walmart.
if you turn the xbox on with the power buton on the console you can use arrow keys to navigate and the enter key to select. that will disable the issue with the controller falling asleep
that gaming pc looks 🔥
Gotta remember, the series x with the right setup gets a static 120 fps across nearly all titles including the new ones. Some budget gaming pcs only put out 70-95fps. One of my laptops (hp victus) does this when connected to an external monitor but on device it’s 100-118 fps static across nearly all titles except Ark survival ascended.
This is incorrect. Majority of console titles are only 30fps quality, or 60fps blurry mode
@@eytbitsnope
Yeah I have a PS5 but thinking of switching to PC.. I like all the mods available for games. New games tend to suck.
Would love to see a PC vs PS5 Challenge!
Funny how you NEVER mentioned the subscriber fee for the console after all that is part of ownership .
Good point!
The subscription is only needed for multiplayer game modes unless the game is free, so it only needs to be mentioned if you play strictly multiplayer and or want to play one that isn't free games.
@@labiates Right. I own a PS5 and I haven't spent a dime on PS Plus or whatever they're calling it now.
You have to get Norton every year on PC so same as subscription
@@chrismorris5236 No you don't? Lol? Nobody uses Norton. We use Windows Defender, which is free. Norton trial is just something that comes with most prebuilt PCs which stops after the free trial. No clue where you got that from.
Since you went with a refurb Xbox I feel like you could have went with a used or even try to part together a refurb pc.
Looking at building my first gaming PC would a RX 7700 XT compare?
i need to know where you obtained your counter-strike shirt!
It seems like you guys still mix up frame time and latency. The number next to you FPS on your MSI overlay is the frame time. Simply 1/FPS so it fluctuates proportionally with fps and says the same thing basically. Latency is a bit harder to measure but that is what especially Jackson is talking about a lot
what your forgetting is that pc has alot of AA settings that an be adjusted to get higher framerates with lower drops while console you dont even see those settings
I'd just go with PC, especially with emulators, you can relive your childhood games. Also the upgrade path is just worth it. You get a choice to upgrade and have a better experience
do you invest more on pc games on CD disk or all of them are steam downloads?
Where's the productivty test? And multitasking comparison? Which one is faster on excel?
Latency on console feels so much worse, even if you are “locked at 120hz” which just means dynamic scaling and trickery to maintain that rate.
Hey guys I need help my pc is ryzen 5 5560x and gpu rx 6650 xt 16 gb ram but the warzone game I didn't feel it smouth just my mouse is 5 dollar mous 😁can the mouse make the problem? Plss help 👍👋
Pc will still be better, I’ve had mine for about 7 years now and if I would’ve payed monthly $10 to just play online then I would’ve been down $840!! It’s the best decision I ever made switching to PC
Can you please make a Steam machine! would love to see each of you make your own version of one and compare performance between the two in gaming! Bazzite looks really interesting been considering building a pc just for that since its like console experience
I don't know why are people saying you fell off, atleast ya'all didn't try and get a free Case from a junkyard or smth 😂. Honest and good quality work from you guys
@@barbar0s.7 it's just an internet meme
ironically i traded my xbox series x for a pc then ive upgraded it myself and there is a huge difference in the way i play my games and also gives an opportunity for customization to every little part of my setup to however or whatever I want, other than a console you can only put some stickers or a wrap on it but ig that would also argue w budget
Where do you guys get your sick t-shirts from? I've been trying to figure out where you can buy shirts with Counter-Strike designs lol.
its simple, if you just want to game with your bros, get a console, but if you actually spend time online and do more than just game, your gonna want a PC, it may be a little more expensive for a good PC, but as a pc owner and builder, im so happy that i spent a couple hundred dollars more than a console cost, PC over console (just my opinion)
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Im an xbox player and want to know if i switch to PC can i switch over my achievements or will i have to restart the achievement system or how does that work