Executions Graded: Nobushi
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- For the grading rubric: • "THAT'S An Execution" ...
Finally we get to Nobushi, one of my favorite samurai and probably For Honor's best girl! This one was pretty fun to look over, and I'm very excited for ya'll to see this grade! It actually surprised Lark and myself.
TIME STAMPS
2:36 Nobushi Wheel
4:17 Dearest Pity
5:23 Momiji No Uchi
7:48 Fuusoku
10:07 Momiji’s Efficiency
12:26 Kuroyuri no Mai
14:30 Ohisama no Kataki
15:42 Butterfly Dance
16:57 Oikase
18:54 SPEARitual Journey
20:18 5 Deadly Stabs
21:51 Sting Like A Bee
23:02 Snap-Off
24:23 Give Us A Smile
26:39 Going For A Ride
28:37 Snapmare
29:48 Haata no Joou
31:13 Home Run
33:03 FINAL SCORE
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You gotta admit; Larry the Warden does definitely help sell these executions. Who ever is the execution director should be giving him a raise. 😄
At the end of the executions graded series, there should be like a revisions (if needed) and total ranking video. I’ve been keeping up with the series, but going through every video to see where each character is relative to the others takes a long while since there are so many heroes.
Huh...was kind of expected a higher score...though I guess her using her Naginata one handed probably didn't help.
16:27 I believe the twirl is to create momentum for the decapitation because you need momentum to take off the head
No, at the end she doesn’t flow with the weapon, she grabs it weirdly and all momentum is lost
@@CallSignAlzashe does that because she needs to transition it to behind her (so she'll have momentum for the decapitation). But does that twirl to add a little sauce.
One thing I really like about nobushi's executions is how she knows how to use the whole weapon. So for close ranged movements she is working closer to the blade. But then when she wants to take off the head she moves her grip lower down the weapon to generate much greater force, and she does this in executions like sting like a bee (22:52). Watch at the end. Though the decapitation is less realistic she does take a grip lower down the weapon, and readjusts it back to the middle. For a lot of the power moves, she moves her grip further back, and for up close she can move her grip right up to the hilt. That's just a master with the naginata.
Momoji is also the story character that helps the emeperor champion during the story mode
I disagree with the rating of “give us a smile”. I feel the cool factor is more objectively at a 3 although personally would be a 4 for me. For the same reason you gave momji’s efficiency a 3 here her cockiness and slightly sadistic nature shows where she likes her victims to know she’s got the upper hand and IS going to kill them (plus the name of it is cool). Also rig before the slash you can see her arm shake and fist tighten ever so slightly in a way that shows her sudden shift from mocking sadism to outright cold blooded killer and THAT mood and shift in mood makes the execution so good for me. I could see the efficiency being a 2 as well because she is still holding them to a threat of a slash but I understand a 1
Ya that's one of my favourites I love how cocky she is when she does it, It definitely fits her.
give us a smile is especially special to me because at the end of it you can see the opponent slowly crawling toward you trying to reach for your leg. Super brutal and that’s just the cherry on top imo
13:20 what i like to think with this execution is that she miscalculated how far she would be from warden and had to correct her stance to effectively kill him
21:51 I actually noticed something about the Warden's animations on Sting Like a Bee.. Despite being decapitated, he reaches his right hand up to his throat and actually supports himself on the ground with his left deliberately, almost as if his throat was slit rather than being decapitated. Hell, it even looks like the neck is moving upwards like in most throat-slit executions. This makes me wonder if it was originally going to just be a throat-slit execution, but Ubi changed it before release and didn't feel like making the corpse just go limp. (As that would probably require a re-take of the mocap stuff)
In my best Count Dooku impression: "I've been looking forward to this."
He at least understands many of the weapons used by these fighters, a lot of people think the naginata is not actually that heavy of a weapon, not realizing it was essentially the Japanese version of a halberd, pretty heavy, a very nasty slashing weapon, and that's what it was primarily for, slashing, otherwise why would Japanese invent spears as well? Aside from ease of use of course
It helps that I've actually gotten to train with one in my youth. ;)
@@RavenKnightYT 😂 I too am a weapons enthusiast, I collect medieval weapons for fun, due to military service as a torpedoman in the submarine navy, I know guns and knives but haven't done martial arts with medieval weapons, but I appreciate how you bring up over and over how surprisingly resilient the human body actually is to these weapons, how difficult a decapitation actually is to pull off, I damn near called almost all your ratings on the highlander being I have a lot of Scottish blood, I love the claymore, a devastating weapon, capable of decapitation quite easily, I main warlord and highlander in the game, love vikings due to my own Nordic blood otherwise I love the good ol lawbro, I love showing off my viking longswords to my friends who are always surprised that a sword that heavy is actually a one handed sword 😂
@@RavenKnightYT appreciate your vids, thanks for the work you do, regardless of haters
They were actually designed to be used by women I think (may be wrong) because the extra weight and length would make it easier to effectively use even without a huge amount of strength or training. That and for cutting people off of horses
oikase in japanese, theres a few different ways you can use it.
One would be to tell some to chase something.
but if we were to do oi kase
The other is hey give it to me in a slangish king of way
and the other is make use of
Thank you. Yeah, I'm still not great at Japanese, so some words and phrases escape me. XD I thought perhaps it was oi kaze at first, which would be like a 'following wind' or 'tail wind.' But I felt that didn't make sense.
What I really like about Nobushi is that her execution, just as her martial art, is exactly that, art. There is just something beautiful about having a really good technique done perfectly. Many others in For Honor have this but many also have it wrong (that one Kensei execution is so fucking good). While I also love the savage Shaman execution for being so savage, as a martial artist you gotta love that art that is her fighting, like the axe kick she did when clipping her Naginata through Warden for whatever reason
Also while maybe your fangirling over her has not been involved when making the grades, but they definetly show when you talk about the execution. I get it
Also I think they actually tried to make Nobushi's executions quite good, with some outliers
Stylin on em with Nobu-chan lmao
"She might be the best girl" No sorry dude that belongs to Warmonger.
Ah, you missed my video discussing best girl.
3:15
A lot of FH executions are mo-capped. More than likely this was the same and the person playing warden "assisted" in the throw, basically doing a backflip to make it easier.
You can actually see the moment it goes from mo capped to hand animated cuz warden will suddenly go as stiff as a board mid air with an unnatural acceleration to the ground. The mocapped actor likely landed on their feet and they needed warden to land on his face.
6:15
So something you've brought up in other videos is the idea of one handed strikes not having enough power to decapitate and I strongly disagree. One handed strikes are more powerful with one handed horizontal strikes being the most powerful. Though I'll admit there are caveats to that.
If I give you a hammer and told you to hit something as hard as you can, you'll wield it one handed, not two. Or if I give you a knife and I tell you to stab this into a piece of wood as deep as you can, you'll do it with one hand (and if you do it with two, I wager one hand is simply a guide hand and the other is where all the power comes from). Because when you two hand something, you don't have the power of two hands, you just have the power of the weakest hand.
As mentioned, there are caveats. The biggest one being control. It is easier to control a weapon with two hands. As a result it is easier to get edge alignment. This is especially true when you start getting to bigger weapons. And edge alignment is more important than raw power.
If I give you a sledge hammer you'll use two hands not because you'll generate more power but because you need the extra control. The extra power will come from its increased mass.
There is one more caveat to that and that is acceleration. Acceleration is part of control, it's easier to start and stop a large weapon's motion with two hands as opposed to one. But once it's in motion, a one handed strike ends will be the stronger way to go
In this example if Nobushi had to do a small chopping motion then two handed would be more powerful because two hands will give it better acceleration over a short distance. But because the naginata is already in motion one handed is more power.
A good way to test this is to grab a broom. or if you have a feder. A simple horizontal strike should illustrate this. Because the range of motion is small, you need two hands for decent acceleration. But if you spin like the nobushi did and let broom spin, you'll feel that a one hand will generate more power. You just lose all control for it to be useful. But that becomes a moot point when fictional characters have perfect edge alignment every time.
To your first point, yeah, I can understand the mocap issue.
Now to your second point...
So you say one handed strikes are stronger than two handed...could you provide citation? Because as someone who has trained in weapon usage, as well as played sports like tennis, I can tell you: two handed swings often generate more power. But I'd love your citation.
You use a hammer as an example...well hammers are one handed by nature. What if I gave you a wood cutters axe and told you to chop me a log? Would you do that one handed? You then use a knife as an example...again...a one handed instrument. How about if I gave you a spear? Would you stab one handed with that? You favor the tools that are one handed to suit your argument...sorry but that's not gonna help in the overall discussion. I'm stunned golf players don't use one hand...that would obviously generate more power, right?
You bring up alignment and control...you have now debunked your original argument by saying that alignment is more important than power. Therefore, it matters not that you swing with the most force, but that you swing with the most control...therefore...two hands are prefered.
You then mention sledgehammers...did gravity not factor in? Usually you swing sledgehammers and wood cutting axes either downward, to capitalize on gravity, or to the side, but always with two hands because of the weight of the object, the length of the handle, and the control necessary. Why would that not factor in?
You then mention acceleration, and while you're not wrong, you mention that a one handed swing would be preferable. Well that depends on the weapon, doesn't it? If we're using a gladius or short sword, a one handed swing may be fine. But a glaive, axe, or longsword? Or in this case, a naginata? Two hands are necessary for the control...as you said...more important.
You then say one handed is more powerful for the longer swing time...but that longer swing will require more control so you don't miss...I don't understand how you miss that. Take baseball. What if the baseball player just swung one handed? Why doesn't he? Same principle? Maybe for the added control? Just possibly?
"You use all control for it to be useful." Well...I think I can leave it there. You just proved my point with your own sentence. Congrulations. Even if it's true that a one handed swing is sufficent, you said yourself it's not useful.
But then you back pedal by saying 'they're fictional characters and will get it right each time.' Well...if they're fictional...wouldn't that hurt the 'realism' score? I grade realism based on what is realistically possible...not what is fictionally possible. Therefore, even if in the context of the game it's possible, as you yourself admitted: it's not useful UNLESS it's fictional...therefore....not realistic.....
Thank you. Have a nice day.
So for butterfly dance, couldn't the twirl be attributed to the start-up of the momentum for the decapitation. I still agree that the twirl took a little too long, but I am intrigued about your opinion on this.
Also side note, love watching your content, can't wait for more.
@@nevadaleighty6968 I think the twirl could be a build to momentum, but it took too long. I also think it was style points
The idea that using two hands only gives you more control and not any more power is completely ridiculous and I'm struggling to understand where your logic comes from
@@RavenKnightYT Your tone sounds hostile. This was not meant to be an own. More like an academic disagreement. Or even an academic discussion. I'm not furiously typing at the keyboard or fuming because I disagree. I have more in common with Po from Kung Fu Panda who likes talking swords (or rather martial arts in general).
Can we still have that? An academic discussion?
I have no academic citation, only personal experience in martial arts. The relevant ones I'll bring up are MMA, HEMA (KDF style) and kendo. And I've attended two of those car bashes where you can smash a car with a sledge hammer.
And my point is not so simple as a "her realism score should be higher". I had disagreed with the statement that a one handed strike wouldn't generate the power. As opposed to if you said that her blade alignment will be off. All I'm saying is that a single handed strike can generate enough power. That it will generate as much power as a two handed technique if not more. And I added the caveats because I acknowledge that this is not universally true.
I'm trying to think of a way to convey this without a full chart.
But let me make myself absolutely clear. This is not a "her score should be higher" or anything like that. The score is irrelevant to what I'm saying. I am soley focused on the academic idea that mechanically a single handed strike would produce less energy than a two handed strike.
We're just two sword nerds on youtube and I just disagree with that statement. So let's go from there.
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I'll start with the MMA one since it's relation is the most simplistic. In movies there is the double hammer strike where you grasp your hands together and bring them down with some belief that it'll increase your power. But there is no double hammer strike in any martial art east or west because two hands doesn't increase your power. You just hit with the power of the weakest hand. If it didn't, we would two hand even small tools to generate that extra power. Once we up the ante to something bigger, the mass of the weapon will provide the power for us. Sure we can give it more power but it's more important that we get the weapon to where we want in the manner that we want it.
What you need for power is rotational velocity is radius. The body turns more easily than it does bend plus the arm swings more easily on a horizontal plane than it does a vertical. And especially if the arm starts off across the body and swings out. Even if you incorporate technique (and not swing wildly) vertical strikes don't really have the body bend whereas horizontal strikes gets to rotate the hip and feet (probably why the mittelhau hurts so much. Yeah I know mittelhaus aren't actually that good but I'm focused on the power aspect for now). But having a single arm gives it more range of motion as opposed to two arms coordinating with each other.
This is where the car bash comes in. The most damage I did to the car (as a right handed person) was a single handed spinning clockwise strike. (Funnily I only dared to it twice because the centripetal force almost made it slide out of my hand the second time).
As mentioned, I acknowledge that one handed strikes generating more power is not a universal fact. It worked in that case because I had room to accelerate and hence take full advantage. If I have room to wind up then I can accelerate my sword to a good speed for more power. But swap out the sword for a polearm I'll need more room because the polearm is more unwieldy for one hand. And even then I have to question of it's still the case if the technique is something like an oberhau (I don't train in polearms so I don't know the name of their techniques) since you can let gravity do most of the work for you.
Yeah, I just picked up my feder and did a few oberhaus with one hand and two hands. I can actually hear the one hand swinging faster and that's even with me holding back because I don't want to hit the floor.
And I acknowledge single handed strikes come with a slew of caveats such as difficulty controlling the weapon. I mentioned the oberhau I did. If this had been a match then that overswing would've been easily capitalized on. And I can think of all my sparring matches where I tried a one handed swing and my blade would do all sorts of movements on the way to the target.
I reiterate. The score is not the point I am saying. Just a sword nerd who disagrees that just because the swing was one handed means it won't have enough power.
And look, if it's a back and forth we'll have perhaps a discord discussion or something is more suitable. IDK. I just like talking about swords.
Cool nobushi pink looks great
butterfly dance, the twirl was to prolly build up momentum (maybe most of the twirling was pointless, Idk, but it was more than likely to build momentum)
I feel like the Lethality of Oikase is underrated: you can notice that her strike with the blunt end of the Naginata caused the Warden to cough up blood, meaning that it caused some severe internal bleeding. Even without using her blade, combine that with the fracture in the arm and being knocked unconscious by the chin strike, and that's a kill for sure, especially without modern surgical procedures.
It would be a 3, at a minimum.
Very excited for this tier list!
Apollyon approves.
So I guess Nobushi is a wolf?
That would be correct.
May I ask why your armor is so damm rusty?
Talking out of character here...but I have no idea why her armor is Rusty
@@Blackstonelegion hahaha, yeah ive tried to get the apollyon look from the wallpapers from "apollyons legacy" but that definetly doesnt work on her original rusty armor. all the "apollyons legacy" ones are pretty damm clean but...rip that i gues
A perfect way to start the weekend off😎
FINALLLLLLYYYYY
naginata not as heavy as a claymore.....claymore weighing around 5 pounds. naginata is still a polearm. as soon as we get into standard length for war i think they are weighing pretty much the same.
Great character for some reason no breasts on females for western games.
Best executions and style in the game btw.
I just think Nobu’s kills are too flashy. But that’s just my personal opinion.
23:25 I think she cut the head off with the naginata and the kick detached it and sent it flying which is kinda realistic, more like a 2 or 3 tbh
Before the vid: I guess its over 88%
After the vid: well I was close....
Most of the nobushis i fight kill me but they dont get any executions off me
bro can u share that nobushi skin build? :D
YAAAASSS
Very Solid. Is there a chart of all the ratings for all previous hereos anywhere?
I love nobu so much, really happy she got good grades :D
Smash
I just made some spaghetti
dude me too!!
except mine sucks cause i made it🥲
We want spaghetti 🍝
May I have some ?
I think the realism for the 3rd execution should be 4. While she is holding the naginata 1 handed, she’s holding it against her body for stability and to add more of her body’s momentum into the swing as she spun. That would definitely be enough force for a naginata to decapitate
I think the Oikase execution isn't breaking the wrist, I think it's dislocating the shoulder. That's just me though.
I love how my most used nobu execution i use on all loadouts, which is Oikase got the lowest rating
With my hatred for no Bushi “ auto current” it just ruins it a bit for me and my Brian tells me this is biased even though I know it’s not it’s just the way you’re tone of voice is when one of her rates are low 17:19 to 18:33 and 16:21 8:32 and I’m suffering in the inside 😂
For the execution at 11:00 i dont think she stopped and just laughed. No it looks more like she wanted to cut but didnt hold the blade in the right position striking with the side, then laughed cause she failed. If you looks closely you can even see that after the strike she turned the naginata
oh hey raven the default executions are mocapped so when you say it looks like warden flipped himself he likely did
Nahhhh SPEARitual Journey is a great pun that deserved a 5
For butterfly dance. The twirrel was to build up extra momentum to strike down with sow she could fully insure the kill.
Huh, this is first. I think the realistic on Sting like Bee feels like 4. The problem I have is that the name doesn't feel like a sting.
Have you ever thought about making realistic or themed fashion for heroes?
personall opinion, valk and nobu have the coolest executions in the game
I feel like the greatest enemy of the executions is the actors who mo-capped the animations at times lol
The name is the her fault though
I dunno…that could just be your bias.
How did you get those anime looking simbols for her?
the explosion seems to be set off by it hitting him, so unstable ingredients maybe?
20:16 I’m having nobushi war flash backs
I demand a refund on any execution that had points docked for Nobushi putting too much unrealistic force on her hips and/or thighs.
Have you SEEN those things? She's got the entire baking industry down there fr
This is...acceptable.
For Butterfly dance you could argue that her spinning it was building up momentum for the Decapitation which would be more efficient
I think it would have also been efficient if she spun her weapon horizontally to stop people from running up to her just a thought
The twirl is martial art shii amd it built momentum
"what if you missed"
*I won't*
In the "Give us a Smile" execution, I'm pretty sure the sides of the neck are what your after because that's where the arteries are.
The carotid, if I know my anatomy well, which I probably don't Because I'm not a doctor.
Dropping a point for the name of an execution is poor form Raven, sorry man.
I’m sorry that you found it poor form, I personally was having a bit of fun, knowing one point would not impact the final grade, and also to prove I would not be biased in this video…so I’m sorry you don’t like it.
I can't unsee the dab now haha
Aramusha is next I can’t wait
I ain’t gon lie the biased is crazy
How so?
Neat
I sense shipper bias
Yup, you do seem biased.
you speak Japanese?
I'm still learning it. I'm definitely not great yet. Hahaha. ^^
Very biased
How so?
More like based 😎
@@KrusaderYT nah
He just glazed nobu all video
Shoulda been like 2 points off for all the times she does flippings over her body. Sure she has leverage but can she flip a guy who’s like 40+ more lbs than she is, excluding the armor?
The only thing I’d have to disagree with would be the efficiency on Dearest Pity. Even though she secured the kill by stabbing her opponent in the heart, she’s wasting precious seconds caressing them. It’d be a 2 to me.
Besides that, everything else was solid!
most of these executions wouldn't work due to him wearing armor and chainmail
He doesn't count armor
- takes a point off for poor pun naming and calls it cringe
- gives a 4/4 for cool factor for dabbing on the opponent while killing him
It's been almost a decade since dabbing was cool and hip ffs 😂
If you say so. And yet people still found it hilarious. So, my point stands.
meh, biased I feel. All her exe are samey/boring.
Well that’s your bias.
@@RavenKnightYT yep
Fun fact: nobushi makes up 90% of the NSFW posts on rule 34 For_Honor
She is the best gril
No wonder Raven likes her so much lol.