Will the Cheapest Level IV Armor Save Your Life?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2021
- In this video, we test the least expensive, imported Level IV plates on the market from Battle Steel. Will they stand up to the abuse and can they perform as advertised and potentially save your life? Let's find out.
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If your being shot at with a 30/06 at 10ft don't take your EX wife hunting.
Underrated comment 👍
Ain't that the truth
Bwahahaha😂🤣😂🤣
Facts💯
LOL!
I bought mine after I watched MrGunsnGear shoot the absolute PISS out of these plates, but I will absolutely accept a second opinion from IV8888
I have to say, I trust the opinion of IV8888 more than mrgunsngear. That’s just my opinion since I’ve been following him longer than gng.
Same here!!!
@@Refrigerator_ they are both legitimate when it comes to firearms and armor.
Check out Buffman Range. He does real good reviews he shows actual data
@@Refrigerator_ I wouldn't say I trust one more than the other, I've been following them both about the same amount of time. It's just that when I was in the market for plates, MrGnG had already done his review. That was over a year ago.
I like how he wears a lab coat into the woods to shoot stuff...
SCIENCE!!! 😂🤣😂🤣👍
Hell yeah! Just like a medical press conference on the White House lawn!
It's a call back to Barry
One of my dogs wears a lab coat everywhere she goes.
Because he’s a professional!
The 5.7 ammo cost more than the armor
"The plate either stops the bullet or it doesn't"
I mean that seems like a good test to me!
Sample size of 1, lol good enough for lifesaving equipment I guess.
@@Halal_Dan technically 2, but yes I see your point. You're free to buy a few dozen of those and shoot them with multiple 30-06 black tips and record it for all of us if you like
@@JoeGarofaloII as long as the manufacturer is continuing to do this, then that's fine and dandy. That's what NIJ CPL ensures. Without that, as long as the manufacturer is keeping quality checks in place, great!
@@BuffRANGE since you probably don't hear this enough, THANK YOU for your replies and your videos and others 👍
@@SR-wz2iv You're welcome!
People hate these plates because they need to justify spending 3-5x as much on a different brand
You really don't have to spend that much more on certified plates.
My first set of NIJ certified plates was only about $100 more than this.
My latest set cost way more because it was thinner and extremely light. At only 6.5lbs for a large SAPI plate. Which puts them as 2lbs lighter than my other ceramic plates.
For $135 you can get an RMA level IV nij certified plate that's made in America.
The vast majority of this stuff is bought by people who have zero need for it in the first place, level IV body armor to wear while grocery shopping smh. 100 bucks is fine.
@@archstanton1628 you say that but I’ve actually used mine.
He blinded me with science. SCIENCE.
You just got that little jingle stuck in my head! Thanks alot!😂🤣
You think he is gonna put a bra on his head and build a woman
Bum bum buuuuuum bum..... SCIENCE
@Sgg Ffgg That Christ is the savior of your poor soul
lol
I bought 3 plates shot 1 with big fast rounds like 6.5 Creedmoor and .300wsm and 300PRC.......it stopped all at 50 yards ...so I wear them with confidence
Rifle protection is getting cheaper and lighter. A decade ago this plate might have cost $900, now it is $100.
This is very interesting.
The lvl 4 helmet was 3000$ when i first saw it.
Its 1400$ now.
5.11 has level IV multi hit plates that weigh 2 lbs each. Too bad they cost $400-$500 dollars each
@@Ronin_Noir there is no level IV plate on the market that weighs 2lbs.
@@fajile5109 there is no such thing as a level IV helmet.
@@Buddha23Fett Maybe he’s talking about a 6x6 side plate. Lol
“Wrong end of the secret service”, you know, forgot that was a thing for a bit, could be modern gestapo soon I guess
THIS. I strongly suspect that should any citizen who owns body armor actually have it save them anytime in the next few years, it will be from a government owned gun fired by a Gestapo wanna-be.
Don't defame the honest men of the Gestapo by comparing them to DC swamp creatures.
@@michaelbaker8284 :D :D :D
@@Wearyman if the "gestapo" is after you then you wont get the chance to wear body armor
@@marblemarble7113 This is what early warning systems, staging and practice are for. Practice getting your gear on as fast as possible, have it set up close by (bedroom closet works) so that you can just grab it and toss it on and have your firearms set up with a quick access system. If you have early warning (battery backed up camera systems with audible proximity alerts to your phone and a dog) you will be up and ready. No guarantee you will live, but that's not the point. the point is to make it as painful for the Gestapo as possible. They lose enough good men and they can't keep going after patriots.
IV8888: I don't have an M1 Garand.
Internet hate engaged......
@RogerWilco99 yeah, definitely thought he'd have one.
Oh dang, that was an actual full auto P90! I was expecting to be here a while watching all 50 rounds go down range lol
And don’t forget.. you will be on your back sucking wind after taking one of those shots wearing anyone’s armor.. let’s just not get shot by multiple mall assassins at Walmart boys .. lol
Yep. And the chances of them having black tip .30-06 are basically zero.
Chances of being shot by M193 or M995 seem to go up every day.
@@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder Depends. The army almost exclusively trains with M995. There was also a shooting a few days ago in Chicago with an honest to God Automatic weapon. It was a gang shooting in broad daylight in traffic, sure, but it was still an automatic. So if people can get their hands on one of those, it wouldn't be a stretch to see some M995 going missing and ending up on the black market.
@@BullsMahunny the army doesn’t exclusively train with M995. What are you even talking about?
Y'all need to paint George before running tests like this... just sayin'.
Yeah a little spray paint would have made the test results clearer
@@Brimwald There were no hole in the back of the plate, you can't get any clearer than that.. (other than the one that got through)
X4 on that!
@@calholli the back of the plate was chewed up, it was difficult to see what happened to the plate.
The paint is going to get chewed up from backface deformation anyways
Hopefully, you won't ever face an offender who has a 30.06 anyway...
Hopefully you won't have to face a offender with anything not even a 22! 😆
@John Beige most hunters will have hollow points so as long as it hits the plate your good
What a bunch of dumb sub comments. A rifle like a 30-06 is a common hunting rifle, but semi autos are becoming more common. But seeing someone out hunting in a country like the USA with blacktips? You're more likely to find that 2000 pound bear your neighbors friends uncle mentioned he'd seen, while hunting with black tips! Lol. You guys are missing the point of the original comment.
Coming this holiday season, the AR-30-06.
In my area im far more concerned about 5.56 and 9mm from either anti-american government personnel or "Peaceful Protestors" that have raided government supplies on thier way out of the cities.
All that crazy stuff you have and you don't have a Garand? Not hating so much as just somewhat shocked.
I think he meant he doesn’t have one with him, he has multiple garands
@@tonyestrada6747 true. I saw quite a few in his gun collection video a few years back. Like 5 or something
I feel like I remember a video where he said he had sold all that he had
I have a set of these im supper happy with them and this makes me feel even better about them
Same
@@JESTR_ACTUAL I have 1 rma lvl 4 plate and the rest are lvl 3 ar500. Gonna replace the ar500 plates with these. For $100 that seems as good as I can expect
@@notmefrfr these things are awesome for the price. And you can't beat the weight. Plus, that foam on the edges provides a tight fit in the plate bags, so no wiggle during maneuvers
@@notmefrfr I just ordered a some gts lvl 3 plates,one 2 weeks ago then 1 last week then a day later find out they'll stop the lead at rounds but not ap rounds so I ordered one of these battle steel level 4 plates to use in the front of my carrier,I hope they ship it fast cause I just read some stories about their shipping time and items marked in stock but not.
And it taking 3 months some times before they'll cancel the order for refund.
One guy said he got one at the $99 price same day they raised the price so they told him they were out of stock but then he called acting like he was a new customer and they said they were in stock.
@@darknature79 there are no steel lvl 4 plates that's I know of brother
I feel pretty confident I'm never going to be shot with a 30-06 black tip. But for the price these plates will stop any threat I might ever see.
Yes most likely will face 556, AK, and 7.62NATO
@@fujimi715 didn't know AK was a bullet
I just ordered 2 gts pe ceramic plates then found out after that they won't stop 855a1 and was pissed,so I ordered one of these plates just now for $117 shipped to use in the front.
Guess you can never have enough armor tho.
I got the raptor 3a plates too and they're the best 3a plates for the price out.
Both plates weight about 1.5 lbs and that's awesome for 3a.
The hipoint of body armor
Edit that first corner shot legit flew back and left sparks in the air
no.. It's more like the PSA of body armor.. Cost is cheap but it's good quality and does the job impressively well.
The plate carrier was cheap and it was made out of cheap fabric. It wouldn't happen if it was made with nylon
I picked up some level 4 plates from LA Police Gear for around $100 each. Great video as always
Same here. I have my spartan armor steel plates in a basic carrier as back ups/loved one's armor.
Yep. Mine are LA police gear as well. And I put Spartan trauma pads behind them.
@@TH-camLovesCowards Late comment, but be aware of the shrapnel that steel plates will make. If you don't have some hella coating and padding to stop it, your face and legs are gonna get cut up by a bullet impact
Considering most people buying this are most likely to be shot at by an AR, an AK, 308 ball or some hunting ammo ... this is plenty protection and then some.
Yes, it would be cool to see it's multi hit stop capabilities in something like 556 from 50 yards just to see a more realistic test... ... That would be cool.
@@elmaxidelsur agreed, 556 is the the real threat
@@elmaxidelsur if it stops black tip 3006, it will stop 556. Easily stop m193 and m855 and will even stop 1 hit from m995 tungsten core on a fresh plate.
@@fujimi715 yes, I know it will stop them but... How many? will it stop a 556 after you drop it...?? You know, like a regular civilian would handling it??? This won't be used by law enforcement, this will go into some go bag of a ""low budget prepper"" if won't be exchange if drop, it won't be exchange if hit. So... A test line that might interesting to see, I thing.
@@elmaxidelsur I believe buffman range tested this plate and he drops all the ceramics
It's better that wet phone books taped together lol
If you read the certification documents carefully you will find that the testing lab certifies the actual plate that was tested. The certification does not apply to any other plate for liability reasons.
Almost every plate manufacturer does this because of the insane cost to get a nij certification for each model. Used to be 30,000$ per plate test and I imagine it’s gone up
I’ve had these plates for a few years now and absolutely love them. Multi curved and will still everything you throw at it. I knew it was going to stop it, but wasn’t so sure on the edge hit, because you know, it’s at the edge. But I’m happy to see my trust in these work.
I have used this armor for about a year now and it saved my spine.
Used to use AR500 plates plus side plates.. at only 5 lbs each and able to take black tip 06 I trust it.
However during winter shots and classes I don’t just toss the armor around in the back of my truck
Saved your spine huh
@@ViktoriousDead he probably means it’s lighter than his previous armor
Wow that’s really impressive. And that’s with .30-06 black tip, which is probably a highly unlikely scenario. I think it’s safe to say these plates would shrug off 5.56 or 7.62x39 just fine.
Who uses 7.62 x 39? That's soooo last century. Also, the army approved and is the process of moving to a 6.8mm rifle. So whatever, wolf warrior.
@@knoahbody69 lol I’m sorry no one loves you
@@knoahbody69 are we going against civilians using 6.8? He’s saying 5.56 since that’s one of the most used rifle rounds especially in the US
@@ThatRM250guy Whatever, wolf warrior. Keep pushing your false narrative and you will get banned.
@@knoahbody69 is wolf warrior your role playing name? Also ban me, let me guess your dad owns TH-cam? You’re just upset that I called you out on something that made you look stupid. “Wolf warrior” sooooo last century🤦🏽♂️
I just started looking into purchasing armor less than a day ago. This video helped me out a lot. Thanks for doing what you do. 👍🏽
Test like this you should have that clear human chest gel that I’ve seen you used
Ballistics Gel. 👍
I bought LAPG level 4 plates (LA Police Gear) for $104 each... It's also a composite, but with different materials... Even the level 3+ plates they make pass the level 4 test, so they are nice plates... I bought 2 sets.
I almost did and then saw these. Thickness here is only .8 inches each, I think lapg is over 1.1 inches each, so these are thinner allowing for more maneuvering.
@@SWebb-tg1ki I'm deciding between the two right now. That's what I'm thinking about 🤔
That was a fantastic review of that piece of armor! probably one of the best armor penetration tests I have seen so far. Great job!
Thank you and IV8888 team for these great videos!
I started following a new company called GTS that makes body armor. He shows how his plates are made and makes educational material on how it’s constructed and the chemistry that goes into the ceramics. But, one thing he showed is that even on the high end products of ceramic plates they don’t bring the ceramic all the way to the edge but leave up to an inch away and filled in with foam. I just bought his level IV plates and side plates and I’m extremely happy with the purchase
Awesome to see!!! Thanks for all the great armor content.
I have a feeling if someone shot me with 30-06 black tip that I won't have to worry about taking multiple shots to my plate. I'm pretty sure I would drop like I wasn't wearing body armor... that would FREAKING HURT!!!
I suspect you will wish you were dead. I have a set of these They are heavy (I mean, 10 lbs of just the armor not counting any other gear. Not super light.) But I do feel very protected wearing them. That said, I'd still rather NOT get hit with a Black Tip, thank you very much.
@@Wearyman you are spot on about that 1 brother!
Eric just couldn’t figure out which M1 Garand to shoot. Love that P90.
Best armor review ever. Efficient and to the point. I watched this after work and shared it 3 times. Thanks for the “straight to the point” review.
Consider my purchase validated. Great video guys!
Made in USA Cheapest Level IV light weight armor is from Hudis Tactical
Hudis is over $40 more than this armor
@@armedpreacher still not bad
@@armedpreacher BUT ITS MADE IN AMERICA. AMERICANS NEVER CHEAP OUT, MY DAD TOLD ME SO
Made in the USA, I am not too sure of that.
thank you for the video!!!! keep up the good work!!!! keep the video's coming!!!
"Not if he shoots you in the femoral artery" ~Clint Smith 😆
IV8888 is the last person I would expect to not have a Garand.
I bought these for each of my family members. For the price, it cant be beat.
Be nice if they had a type of rubber coating over the ceramic tiles that keeps them compressed so they don't just fall apart and fall into the plate.
Just a suggestion, might be worth putting maybe a thin stack of paper or relatively thin cardboard behind the plate carrier. Would definitely make it easier to use the same dummy while determining if you had penetration.
My homemade plates don't spread ceramic damage. Because I use hex tiles so a bullet will only wreck one tile at a time. The damage cannot spread beyond the single tile (2x2 hex).
Have you tested your home made plates and do you have a video of how you made them?
Lol. Okay guy. I'm sure you have so.e super dragon armor. If ceramic armor is built properly and bonded correctly to the backer, the damage is localized to within 2 inches, without sacrificing bullet pass-throughs at an angle and weighing 50% more
Read so bad reviews but ordered mine Saturday and it was marked processing this morning then marked shipped at 3,glad I had a good experience with botach.
👍 thanks again for your info
I have two sets and they will do their intended job for me and my gf.
I buy my wife a set of protection every time I buy just so she's as safe as I am. Regardless if she think she needs it. Better safe than sorry 👍✌
@@Gldn1017 💪🤙👍
I don’t my 4 th kid is due in October
@@daneblackburn613 I laughed harder than I should have at that one.
A nice video to watch while working
Most of the people that hate on these type plates are those who spent $800 on the "premium" brands.
Yep.
Thank you Eric. It's always nice to watch your videos. Hello to you from Russia
Excellent video. 🤔👊🏽
Great job
I love it when you wreck stuff ..Brilliant , Garands are hard to come by let alone shooting modern ammo through it.
Well im happy to see how it preformed
Y’all should give the dummy a tshirt and have a camera watching it’s back so you can see in slow mo if a round gets through
If it will stop a black tip 30 ought 6 you are good to go. Mr. Guns and gear posted a video of this armor stopping a Hornady a tip 50 cal. The blunt trauma probably would have still killed you but it's absolutely insane. I don't care if they're $99 plates all the testing I have seen says that these plates are actually some of the best on the market and some of the lightest.
I completely agree! These are 2 to 3 pounds lighter EACH than steel plates costing more. I'm buying mine right now.
Polenar Tactical made the test using Aliexpress plates, which these looks awfully similar. They just used clay to watch energy transfer and it was sooooo cool.
Cool lab coat 👍
Now I know this is scientifically tested and I can trust the results.
Haha thanks for all you guys do!
Finally armor for the workin class it’s about time
I have the level 4 LA Police gear with Spartan Armor trauma pads behind them. Watched Mrgunsandgear’s tests of these plates and the LA Police gear ones. These plates being tested were out of stock at the time.
Cool video boss👍
That black tip is, of course, an armor piercing round.
Awesome and good morning from Kzoo Mi.
I love how he makes it a point to say "it either stops the bullet or it doesn't" then proceeds to score the very first shot a "tie"
I'm pretty impressed.
Damn, those prices are hard to beat after proper tooling and making it yourself!
I recently bought these exact plates with the purpose of shooting them. both plates i got stopped 2 black tip ap 30-06, and 3-4 m855 rounds, 50 yards, of course the rounds where spaced around in basically a circle. But for $99 i was shook that they didn't fail. I bought 2 more as back up emergency plates or for an extra vest for others who could use protection but not expected to be in direct fire. I have a couple different sets of certified plates for the real deal, but for a first timer, or someone who just wants protection while getting away instead of fighting cheap plates are a worthy trade-off when on a budget and looking to acquire other gear/gun items
GREAT VIDEO! For low-cost armour it didn't perform as lousy as I expected.
That back face deformation would drive your heart through your spine and out of your back.
“We’re not professional scientist”, but stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Ok what I would like is a side by side comparison with rma 1155
Including both being dropped twice from 6ft as the NIJ requires before being shot.
Thank you for the review!! 👍
Who made the stock for your model 66? I recently bought a 1898 Krag with an almost identical one and have no idea who made it.
Only thing with this test is most threats are intermediate cartridges or pistol maybe shotguns at 5 feet sniper rifles are likely to be more distance but to stop most assult rifles and small calibers is more important at point blank
Check out my homemade armor proto 1 with only 1 tool
These were armor piercing rounds black tips 30 06 I don’t think there’s gonna be someone with the 6 armor piercing 30 06 rounds shooting you point blank , but its good to know this stuff, thanks for the video fellas STAY STRONG!!! 👍👍💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It's the only 5.5 pounds that has me interested. I love my steel plates but boy thems heavy.
They're 5.5 pounds because the strike face is undersized, you're basically buying a size lower of what it says.
Steel is not real armor.
Get rid of your steal armour. Your wearing a frag grenade on your body.
It's the 20 year shelf life that sells me on the steel. I've got the build up coats on my 3+ plates so I'm not worried about spalling until I take 6 rounds or so to the chest. But I am shopping for ceramic now that I'm able to afford swapping it out every 3 or 4 years
@@blakeryan9155 Yeah definitely good that you're moving to ceramic. I wouldn't worry about the "shelf life" thing. Well maintained armor should last well over 5-10 years. Look at the guys with surplus SAPI and ESAPI plates. You're GTG
Anytime I see Eric in a lab coat I know it’s going to be a good video 👏
Hey, quick question do you guys do live q&a ? I have a question regarding the norinco sks 🤔
Thx that was great :)
i love watching bullets hit things as well. just so interesting
I ordered 2 gts pe and ceramic plates and found out they don't stop 855a1 after so I just ordered 1 of these for now to use in the front.
I'm still glad I've got atleast lvl3 but had to get a lvl4.
9:51 aaaaaaaaand, there goes $80
What I want to see is what happens to level 4 when it sees something like a 300 win mag or 338 Lapua. I know it's not rated to stop them, (and you'd probably wish it didn't) but I still think it would be interesting
Depending on the bulletin level IV will stop 300 win mag and 338LM but back face will be significant. I’ve used both for armor testing
If you can drop a Ceramic plate & damage the tegrity, then what if you fall off a decent height on your plate?
Part of the NIJ testing requirements is dropping the plate twice on the strike face before the test.
Hehe he. Tegrity.
If it is a decent height, you die from the fall and no longer have to worry about getting hit.
There's one TH-cam test of these plates where the tester dropped them a few times before he shot it and still did the job.
@@Andrew85or That's me :D
im really curious about battlezone's "Level-4 Armor" (as the brand) level IV plates. I think it may be battle zones own branding? I can't seem to find any testing on youtube or a website. would this be something you guys would consider testing?
wow! that's crazy, specialy for the price again wow!
He made a believer out of me. seeing is believing.
Eric, What's the significance of the 8888 in your handle?
I always thought level 4 armor was a cast iron pan? Hmm lol great video as usual
Maybe you can use these to buff up some of your defenses. Not as your personal plates though
If it's lightweight and stops rifle bullets why wouldn't you use it as a personal plate?
Can you do a harsh test on a polyethylene plate?
The Lab Coat is classic!
So what you’re saying is that I should hang on to my black tip ammo. Cool.
Is this the same armor as the old botach level 4? Got that for around $80
Looks like it
can't beat that man!
No they are currently using polyurethane
But how much it weigh
I bought LAPG for $104 on sale... it tests well also. You just have to baby these things.. if you fall on them a lot, they don't last very long.
Thank you very informative and the white lab coat made it totally legit.
I work for a very small agency in South Louisiana … I run these plates …. That being said, take it for what it’s worth, I I hope I never have to find out if they’re really gonna stop something, but I did buy three of them and myself and a few other officers tested one of the plates out and it held up
What rounds did you test?
11:45 damn those rounds are moving fast, even when I set video speed to .25x I still can't see them flying
Keep the lab coat going
Great information thank you
I'm more worried about 55gr 5.56 out of a 20in barrel
It can vary a bit. But most 556 is optimized for 16 inch barrels. I have seen testing where a lot of ammo actually was a 100 fps or so SLOWER out of a 20inch barrel. Obviously this can vary.