I know his opinions rub people the wrong way but Jim Cornette tells a great story of how awful Herd was. Ric Flair actually quit as booker after getting WCWs highest ratings since Turner bought out Crockett because Herd wouldn't leave him alone or shut up for two seconds. When you have a guy that has zero experience running wrestling, it's doom to fail. Dixie failed, Russo failed and TK is hanging on by a thread
Cornette is at his best talking about Jim Herd and Vince Russo. I see a TH-cam video of Cornette and it has Russo or Herd in the title, I click that video immediately.
Yeah, I don’t agree with everything Jim Cornette always says, but I do find myself agreeing with him about 97% of the time. I don’t think there’s anyone out there. I’m going to agree everything with 100% of the time, I don’t agree with Jim on some how he views the curtain Cole at all and I don’t agree with him on his views with The Miz but everything else whether it’s his takes on the NWA/WCW, WWE, old, southern, wrestling, modern wrestling. I agree with him pretty much spot on with. But yes, Jim paints the perfect picture on how bad Jim Herd ruin WCW from I would say really mid-1990 right after Sting won the NWA World Championship all the way until he was gone. It’s my biggest argument on why WCW didn’t go away in 2001 because of poor ratings because if that was the case WCW would’ve went away in 1991 . 1991 I think it’s easily the worst year up until 1999. I grew up in the Carolinas, so me and my brother and my friends and my friends parents we were always WCW fans first over WWF, but 1991 WCW was so bad especially after Ric Flair left is when we started watching WWF on a weekly basis.
You’ve done a great job with your channel man. You really do make great videos. And hey, I was one of the guys that roasted you when you first started your channel over the Scott Hall video lol but please keep up the great work because you’re doing an amazing job.
Yes! Been waiting for a new "History of" video. You definitely have to do a part 2, then mush them all together with the history of GCW and JCP. Thanks again Dave
Robocop the film may have had an R rating, but Robocop was very popular in the late 80s with kids. I distinctly remember watching the Robocop cartoon and also had Robocop action figures, despite not being allowed to watch the film since I was still way too young. Plus Robocop 2 was being advertised later that same year that Robocop appeared in WCW, so it does sort of make sense from a marketing standpoint, even if it was embarrassing from a wrestling standpoint.
I honestly find it hard to believe that Ole Anderson was the who had the idea for the Robocop angle as that wreaks of Jim Herd and the angle that caused Rhodes to be fired took place on the December 3rd episode of World Championship Wrestling and the company allowed him to stay until after Starrcade: th-cam.com/video/FGYJpYlawm0/w-d-xo.html
Yeah we could use a part two the history of WCW. Right now there's still a part of the NWA world championship wrestling until then later in the 90s right around the same time the NWA of the way with ECW just like it's in line between always like to know when WCW went on their own
So, WCW was doing the good ole' Microtransactions/ Pay to Win thing before video games were doing it. Just like the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame if what Steve Miller and James Brown said is true. Oh, and part two please if possible.
Who knew that giving a man who worked at Pizza Hut the role as WCW President would be a bad thing, right? But this proves that even the 2nd biggest wrestling company in the entire world (at that time) had to deal with the biggest of hurdles in their humble beginnings. Unfortunately…..they dealt with a hurdle too great for them in their sad end as well. Great video Dave and as always, very educational.
But you've only heard one side of the story. The FACT is that JCP wouldn't have been sold to Turner if it was a working/successful business model. It lost millions of dollars, and lots of fans, as it was inherently flawed. Jim Herd was brought in to try and stop the bleeding, and turn things around. And, if you're put in charge of something that's losing millions of dollars a year, do you stick to the same formula? Or, do you change things? If the Man on top isn't drawing flies, do you keep him on top, or try something different?
@@supersasukemaniac OK let's try this in the reverse. Let's say you had a struggling pizzeria. Would you bring in a wrestler with no food service experience who has never even had pizza to right the ship?
@@DaveKnowsWrestling It's not easy when people are sabotaging you. "Jim Herd" has become a dirty term thanks to people insulting him for over 30 years. But, how successful were those same people in the pro wrestling business in those 30 years? That position in WCW was a thankless job, as Bill Watts would later find out. Are you gonna say that Watts didn't have any idea what he was doing? Or were there absurd restrictions and obstacles for Bill Watts in WCW? Just as there were for Jim Herd...
I'm super for confused with Bill Watts. On one hand, there are numerous stories and allegations out there about his supposed racist and bigoted views. And yet, Watts at Mid-South, pushed the Junkyard Dog as a top babyface and had Ernie Ladd as his head booker. And then when he was at WCW, Watts was instrumental in Ron Simmons becoming the first recognized black world's champion in professional wrestling history. It's like Bill Watts is a walking contradiction.
Or it's that racism isn't a light switch. It isn't on or off. There are levels and different behaviors and different reactions. Plus like anything else in wrestling, fans will more than likely never know the truth
True he needs to take over todays television of streaming seriously 8msgine him.taking over NETFLIX hulu peakook Amazon and even MMA TED RURNER NEEDS TAKE OVER TODAYS STREAMING television seriously more then ever
Wrestling pretty much is just a big real life drama, sometimes more dramatic behind the scenes than on screen. Just look at everything going on with Vince right now
They needed to have their own restaurant exhibtion museum in Georgia back then WCW was stro g back in the days mainly in.the south and midwest. Though they used to have house in east coast and pacific. But it seems they WCW WAS mainly had a strong presence in Georgia.Florida and the carolinas
I know his opinions rub people the wrong way but Jim Cornette tells a great story of how awful Herd was. Ric Flair actually quit as booker after getting WCWs highest ratings since Turner bought out Crockett because Herd wouldn't leave him alone or shut up for two seconds. When you have a guy that has zero experience running wrestling, it's doom to fail. Dixie failed, Russo failed and TK is hanging on by a thread
The Road Warriors also quit because of Herd.
Cornette is at his best talking about Jim Herd and Vince Russo. I see a TH-cam video of Cornette and it has Russo or Herd in the title, I click that video immediately.
or Tim Horner. Anytime I am feeling like crap, I listen to Corny on Tim Horner and like magic, I feel MUCH MUCH better about myself.
@@shanewilliams9122 I also love the Bucky Beaver Kevin Dunn impressions by Cornette.
Yeah, I don’t agree with everything Jim Cornette always says, but I do find myself agreeing with him about 97% of the time. I don’t think there’s anyone out there. I’m going to agree everything with 100% of the time, I don’t agree with Jim on some how he views the curtain Cole at all and I don’t agree with him on his views with The Miz but everything else whether it’s his takes on the NWA/WCW, WWE, old, southern, wrestling, modern wrestling. I agree with him pretty much spot on with.
But yes, Jim paints the perfect picture on how bad Jim Herd ruin WCW from I would say really mid-1990 right after Sting won the NWA World Championship all the way until he was gone.
It’s my biggest argument on why WCW didn’t go away in 2001 because of poor ratings because if that was the case WCW would’ve went away in 1991 . 1991 I think it’s easily the worst year up until 1999. I grew up in the Carolinas, so me and my brother and my friends and my friends parents we were always WCW fans first over WWF, but 1991 WCW was so bad especially after Ric Flair left is when we started watching WWF on a weekly basis.
There kinda has to be a part 2, the video ends on the biggest sequel hook possible
You should do the early history of the WWWF and maybe even cover McMahons first few months as booker. Great job Dave!
I miss WCW.
For several years it was really fun
I love these "History of" episodes, you really tell them in a good way. Would love a part 2.
Sting wrestled Flair for 45 minutes at the first Clash. Yes please do a part 2.
We need a part 2. So many unresolved stories..seems like modern wrestling.
You’ve done a great job with your channel man. You really do make great videos. And hey, I was one of the guys that roasted you when you first started your channel over the Scott Hall video lol but please keep up the great work because you’re doing an amazing job.
Yes! Been waiting for a new "History of" video. You definitely have to do a part 2, then mush them all together with the history of GCW and JCP. Thanks again Dave
We want part 2 obviously, and please do an early history of TNA, especially under NWA banner.
A great recap at that time WCW was just as good or better than WWF.
Thanks so much
Great video dave!
Yes ... Of course we want a part 2 ... Please give us a part 2
I’d love a part 2 to this video.
Of course we want a part 2!
Robocop the film may have had an R rating, but Robocop was very popular in the late 80s with kids. I distinctly remember watching the Robocop cartoon and also had Robocop action figures, despite not being allowed to watch the film since I was still way too young. Plus Robocop 2 was being advertised later that same year that Robocop appeared in WCW, so it does sort of make sense from a marketing standpoint, even if it was embarrassing from a wrestling standpoint.
I honestly find it hard to believe that Ole Anderson was the who had the idea for the Robocop angle as that wreaks of Jim Herd and the angle that caused Rhodes to be fired took place on the December 3rd episode of World Championship Wrestling and the company allowed him to stay until after Starrcade:
th-cam.com/video/FGYJpYlawm0/w-d-xo.html
The first promotion I ever saw
It definitely “was a different time back then.” There were robocop, chuck norris and Rambo cartoons back then. Ha ha
I would like to see a part 2 please
Honestly would love a video on the kip era of WCW, no one seems to really mention him or at least not in detail
That's cause the video would be longer than his time in charge
Yes! Definitely a part 2!
Part 2 please!!!
1:14 Wow, that's literally the day before I was born
Yes, part 2 is needed please
Please part 2!
I would like to see a Part 2, that was informative!
You're in luck there already is part 2 and part 3
part 2 would be great!
Yeah we could use a part two the history of WCW. Right now there's still a part of the NWA world championship wrestling until then later in the 90s right around the same time the NWA of the way with ECW just like it's in line between always like to know when WCW went on their own
4:55 yeah it was a different time. A much better time!!
Yes. Part 2 plz
it's FRY, as in K. Allen Frey... the E is silent.
Rise and Fall WCW
I need a part 2
So, WCW was doing the good ole' Microtransactions/ Pay to Win thing before video games were doing it. Just like the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame if what Steve Miller and James Brown said is true. Oh, and part two please if possible.
WCW great wresting , but behind the secens, it was ran by idiots, and bad booking , and lot storylines that had no ending, or got thrown out.
Thats true
I love a brand new episode to start the day. Coffee with Dave is always fun! WCW is making me feel like, old and stuff :)
Keep your chin up, you never know when you could get younger.
Please part 2
Make a part 2 plz!
Who knew that giving a man who worked at Pizza Hut the role as WCW President would be a bad thing, right? But this proves that even the 2nd biggest wrestling company in the entire world (at that time) had to deal with the biggest of hurdles in their humble beginnings. Unfortunately…..they dealt with a hurdle too great for them in their sad end as well. Great video Dave and as always, very educational.
But you've only heard one side of the story.
The FACT is that JCP wouldn't have been sold to Turner if it was a working/successful business model. It lost millions of dollars, and lots of fans, as it was inherently flawed.
Jim Herd was brought in to try and stop the bleeding, and turn things around. And, if you're put in charge of something that's losing millions of dollars a year, do you stick to the same formula? Or, do you change things? If the Man on top isn't drawing flies, do you keep him on top, or try something different?
Makes sense honestly, the business side was hurting, so it made sense to bring in a businessman, not a wrestling promoter.
@@danielburger1775 Yea well.. how'd he do?
@@supersasukemaniac OK let's try this in the reverse. Let's say you had a struggling pizzeria. Would you bring in a wrestler with no food service experience who has never even had pizza to right the ship?
@@DaveKnowsWrestling It's not easy when people are sabotaging you.
"Jim Herd" has become a dirty term thanks to people insulting him for over 30 years. But, how successful were those same people in the pro wrestling business in those 30 years?
That position in WCW was a thankless job, as Bill Watts would later find out. Are you gonna say that Watts didn't have any idea what he was doing? Or were there absurd restrictions and obstacles for Bill Watts in WCW? Just as there were for Jim Herd...
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I'm super for confused with Bill Watts. On one hand, there are numerous stories and allegations out there about his supposed racist and bigoted views. And yet, Watts at Mid-South, pushed the Junkyard Dog as a top babyface and had Ernie Ladd as his head booker. And then when he was at WCW, Watts was instrumental in Ron Simmons becoming the first recognized black world's champion in professional wrestling history. It's like Bill Watts is a walking contradiction.
Or it's that racism isn't a light switch. It isn't on or off. There are levels and different behaviors and different reactions. Plus like anything else in wrestling, fans will more than likely never know the truth
TED TURNER IS THE BEST
CREATED TV STATIONS WITH CARTOONS BASEBALL WRESTLING MOVIES AND TV SHOWS!!
Movies for guys who like movies
True he needs to take over todays television of streaming seriously 8msgine him.taking over NETFLIX hulu peakook Amazon and even MMA TED RURNER NEEDS TAKE OVER TODAYS STREAMING television seriously more then ever
@KHayes666 thats right football and mixed martial artsbaction along withna bit of old west
Nice computer chair
Robocop had a saturday morning tv series for children at that time. robocop animated series.
The whole wrestling thing sounds like a Drama bein played out... i got into wcw when it was known as Georgia Champion Wrestling...
Wrestling pretty much is just a big real life drama, sometimes more dramatic behind the scenes than on screen. Just look at everything going on with Vince right now
They needed to have their own restaurant exhibtion museum in Georgia back then WCW was stro g back in the days mainly in.the south and midwest. Though they used to have house in east coast and pacific. But it seems they WCW WAS mainly had a strong presence in Georgia.Florida and the carolinas