THESE Are My Limits on Gold and Silver Premiums!
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- These are my limits on gold and silver premiums. I'll share with you the line I’ve drawn with my gold and silver stacking, right now! I buy my gold and silver from several sources both online and in person. My local coin shop dealer, Tim, gets some of my business and I buy gold and silver via private sales too. And SD Bullion has been a fast, reliable, and aggressively priced way to feed my gold and silver stacking needs. In this video I talk about premiums on the spot price of silver and gold for the three stacking areas I’m currently focused on: 90% silver (or constitutional silver/junk silver), silver rounds and bars, and gold! I just finished off my silver quarter guardhouse box and I get a lot of questions about how much to spend in terms of face value on junk silver. A good chunk of these 90% silver quarters were purchased at around $17 face value. That's a 28% mark up or silver premium. And what about the silver rounds and bars I just purchased? I haven’t been stacking the American silver eagle or even the Canadian maple leaf very hard this year. Those premiums are crazy high! I can’t even finish off the last tube of my mini monster box of silver Britannias. So what's my premium limit on silver rounds now? Finally I talk about gold and my premium limit for a 1-ounce gold round or coin. I usually go for gold coins like the American gold eagle, the eagle buffalo or the Canadian maple leaf, but I bought a South African minted gold coin for a GREAT low premium!
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I had a shop tell me junk was 24x face. I doubled over laughing at them and walked out.
I'm so impressed with that Guardhouse box of quarters. You are set for barter Sir!
kudos
Silver went down and premiums went up. I was looking for junk silver and so was tracking pricing and as the spot price dropped they just increased the premium. I actually watched the price increase as the spot price was dropping.
So true.
Yep, I have witnessed it myself, and thought something was wrong, but it wasn't.
Oh believe it guys something is wrong but it's going to straighten itself out eventually
I think it’s because they purchased at higher prices and they have to raise premiums so make up for the lower spot price
@@RoyalKennedy601
Yes, possibly, but over time these coins will be sold off and if silver prices stay low, they will be buying more at the lower prices, so theoretically, the premiums should come down. Time will tell.
They sound good …Thanks Yankee for your information on the premiums !!!
Your ideas are solid and advice is on point. For myself I stick to a schedule and buy on the weekend I get paid. Doing a full time job and personal life balancing I don't have the time for detailed metal market monitoring. Either way I like to hear how other stackers do it. And it keeps me motivated. Thank you Yankee. 🇺🇸.
Thanks so much, Rob. 😊
Got to love the scorpions
Thanks, Yankee. Setting personal guidelines is good advice! 👍🏻
SD Bullion silver bars are the best!!! Love the videos keep them going.
Thanks Yankee i learned some great information on Silver & Gold today
I bought some gold and silver over the weekend and I bought two 1oz gold philharmonics for a 2% premium. I got a killer deal
You sure did!
Out of all the silver I have sold since 2015 I always kept my junk silver. I'm sitting on 160 fv on halves, 110 fv in dimes and 8 fv in quarters all at a cost of $12.00 per fv. Super happy.
My lcs just went up the $13 over spot on junk. He pays over spot to buy. You have quite a haul.
I couldnt pass up that Elephant when it first came out. Beautiful coin too.
HI Yankees I want to thank you for your videos. I've just recently got interested in stacking and you're videos have helped me alot. I bought my first silver ever today from a local coin shop I heard about on Facebook. I really wanted some US constitution silver or silver Eagles but he didn't have any. All he had was was canadian quarters and collectable silver so I got a troy ounce worth of Canadian quarters. Probably not the best buy for a first buy but I was so excited I found a silver shop not that far away I had to buy some.
I’m so glad I could help you start your stacking journey!
Just starting to invest in precious metals. So glad to have come across you Yankee!
Hated to hit the like button while it was sitting at 777, but I guess someone had to do it! Thanks Yankee! Keep up the great work!
777! Perfection. 😂
Great information keep up the good work.
SD Bullion staff are very knowledgeable.
Wow! Elephant looks tempting..
Thank you for your video. For the 1ozt Gold coin I had a mental goal set at $50 to $70 over spot at the prices we are seeing today. However, I prefer the way you do it with percentages because this is constant for any spot prices. 3 to 5% it is.
Yankee. Love your videos. And your premiums are on point.
Big like my friend! Thank you so much for sharing! Excellent video!
Living in a state that has sales tax on precious metals is a bummer. I always have to pay 6% more
Premiums are in line. There is a price to pay if you want to partake in the “Real” physical world of gold and silver and if you want to stack you’ll gladly pay given the market and availability. Please support your Brick and Mortar LCS folks, they’re getting hammered with premiums like we are. Drain The Comex!
I can't help but laugh when some stackers complain about high "premiums", while at the same time saying the spot price is not the real price.
@@sevartt9046 I love the junk. BUT will not buy while profits are driving the ship from the boardrooms. SOooo - if Federal legislation passes like I think it will I am buying soon-to-be and already OTC cannabis stock.
@@sevartt9046 exactly
I disagree. Some dealers are greedy and offer less than spot, then Jack up the price. Go ahead and buy at jacked up prices. I will stand pat. Or, I will invest in more food…
@@robbiehollywood1937 gold premiums aren’t bad yet.
I love it when Deadpool talks about silver:-)
😂😂🤣
I think you are spot on Yankee and I always try to shop around for the lowest premiums, but the last couple of weeks in the UK the premiums have become ridiculous, and if I wasn't so trusting I feel there's a bit of price gouging going on! Perhaps a visit over the pond to Tim's coin shop should be on th cards for some good deals!! 😀
Yankee,
I doubt you will see this but If you do I want you to know I truly appreciate everything. My life has changed from yor dedicated work. Thank you & thank you to Tim.
Regards from Austin Texas ! I'm old Austin- not a California implant. Even some of them are Constitutionalits I recon. Live free or die! ( Eyes of Texas are apon you!) 🇺🇲 🇨🇱
I like those percentage premium targets for stacking. You did well with that 10 oz bar purchase and the gold Elephant looks awesome. Well done sir! Like number 19,345. lol
Thanks so much my friend. 👊🏻
I believe your premium strategy is very sound... I'm brand new to stacking so thank you for all of your videos they are very informative 👍🏽 👌
I sure do miss buying junk for spot at the lcs on Saturdays. Those days are toast.
I sure miss the days in 91’ where spot was $3.50 and no premiums for almost two years.
@@macclark4112 I miss the $2.49 premiums on ASEs and the $1.99 premiums in CSMs! lol
Another home run video…I was just thinking about this last night! 😊👍😎
Really Vinny? That’s awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. 👌🏼
Nice video. It's good to bring back the face value in %, we see directly the value of the premium.
This gold coin is magnificent, nice purchase.
I always seem to find these videos After I've made a substantial purchase. 😭
Expensive lessons. Still glad I'm stacking real money.
found a pawn shop that had some constitutional. bought about 30$ in Dimes and quarters. got roughly 17x on it. I was shocked, I'm used to paying 20x plus online because I couldn't find it anywhere else
Yankee, I respect your approach. Having said that IDGAF about premiums. My only concern is stacking more PMs while the USD Fiat is still running the current Ponzi scheme. It helps that I am in the top 1% of private PM owners worldwide 😅
Yea, hunting for premiums takes time and for some it's actually better to pay whatever for premiums and taking care of other things with the time saved not bargain hunting
@@ah5836 for the record, I have been stacking for so long that my all in cost of my stack including premiums is well below current Spot, which helps!
I'm buying nothing but bars. The coin premiums are stupid ridiculous, except gold 1/2 ounce up coins.
Spot plus the premium times .715 will give you the "factor" for how much to pay or take when selling. Currently I have a wholeseller I sell to who is paying spot plus $6.50 for dimes and quarters and spot plus $9.50 times .715 for halves. Silver spot should be more representative of the market and it isn't. That is why we have premiums. I've been collecting since age 12 and have conducted large hotel buys since 2003. Almost 20 years now. As such I can buy well below market and sell wholesale with these premiums all day long. If I was just buying to hold I do see SD as having some good deals. Might be a good place to buy. I do have a few customers from when I owned a 4,200 square foot coin shop and I will retail some and of course retail all numismatic stuff. Take care!
This answers my noob question. Thanks.
Along with premium you also have to consider what the potential. Remember at 80 to 1 silver has more upside potential. If you have 80 ounces of silver and it goes up a $1
I love 90% silver the most but these days I’ve been seeing everything at about 30 times face value sometimes even more especially for the Mercury dimes which are my absolute favorite
Oof, im sorry to hear that, 30x is insane
I checked a few online sources yesterday, and for $100 face value of mixed junk silver, the prices ran between $2250 and $2300.
Iam sorry to say but cost production for gold is just $1300 and as for silver is just $11, which mean both metal still profit for mining company, and industrial company won't pay high as mining company already taking profit about 35-40 percent, gold and silver will stay at this price point for long time unless oil go up to $200 dollar and cost of production on 2000 dollar for gold and 100 dollar for silver
It's really harsh right now. The premiums on Gold Buffaloes and Eagles are really up. Premiums on silver are even higher than they were, heck ASEs are now more than 100% premium at some online stores! I think some of this will improve in a few months when the 2023 coins start being released but until them I'll be looking for lower premium stuff to stack. I think your percentages are reasonable. Thanks for all you do, Yankee!
Serious question here, I mainly stack silver and some gold but I see online(A reputable dealer) there’s a really good deal for a Canadian maple quarter ounce for $470 even though I live in the US and I know we’re supposed to buy denominations from our own country but what your thought on obtaining a quarter ounce gold coin at that price even if it’s from Canada?
I went to my lcs on Monday and bought the last of his junk silver dimes. He didn't have any junk silver quarters or halves. He had a decent amount of Morgan's but I know they go fast. I also got my first Canadian silver dollars. He usually has full bowls of junk, but stock doesn't seem to be coming in. Premiums may be high but the demand is there, at least for now.
Congratulations on the silver win! I won't enter through TH-cam as I want to keep my identity unknown here. But I often enter on the dealers' websites.
As do I! 😉
Gold giveaway! Can't wait! :D
I know that it's not as popular but I have been buying 40 percent Kennedy halves for melt and 14k gold jewelry for melt as well from my lcs.
Thanks for a very informative video. I appreciate folks like yourself sharing years of experience and knowledge on stacking. Keep up the great job. 👍 👏 🙌
My LCS owner says the already high premiums will likely be going up in the weeks and months to come, unfortunately.
Yankee Stacking the premiums are justified in my opinion on the ASE'S because of the cost in doing business and the U.S. mint have not produced that much so if you take those two situations it is not that bad as you tell your viewers. People are still going to buy silver. So far Salivate Metals and SpegTacular are still buying or call it stacking that is what is driving up the premiums.
Premium limits are a facet of applying good business sense to a stacking hobby. I like that... a lot.
Good Choice on the amounts too. Not too low so as to prevent buying some good deals and not
so high that one might not ever recover the premium via higher silver prices. While we all have a
plan of some sort as to what would make us want to sell some of our silver or gold stacks, there
are times when we are overtaken by events and MUST sell, whether or not we really want to do
that. Emergencies can come up and when, not if, they do it may be that the application of some
cash will resolve them in one's favor. I see my stack as being part of my emergency fund. I'd
FAR rather use cash, if I can, than metals but metals are a viable option if the need is great.
My recent gold buy was from SDB and the premium on the 1-oz. Britannias was 4.4% or a shade
under that. I thought that was pretty good, especially in the weird high-premium era we have now.
I just bought one of those kilo bars for $4 over spot and it just about killed me. Haha ive never paid that high a premium on a generic bar in my life!
You can buy 1oz Britannias from SD Bullion for about the same price as a generic round
I would agree with those numbers for the current times. If I can find 90 under $20 face I consider myself a very lucky man. But I will continue to buy a little at a time comparing prices to see if I'm getting a good deal. I don't much care what the premium is as long as I'm getting a good price vs the other dealers.
I felt pretty lucky the other day finding some Walkers and Mercury Dimes for $21 dollars face value for avg circulation.
Can someone explain face value to me? I'm confused what's a good deal or not. Sd bullion have 10 dollar fv quarters for 236 bucks. That seems bad, please enlighten me
@@dogwklr Face value is one dollar worth. They price 90% Silver at one dollars worth. Then to understand how much you’re paying per ounce. You multiply by 1.4. So $23.00 face value is equal to $32.20 per ounce
@@Chris6815 thanks. So how come 10 dollar fv bags go for over 230 dollars?
Am I missing why there's such a mark up?
@@dogwklr You’re right 90% Silver is pretty expensive. Finding 90% Silver for under $20 face value is pretty difficult.
Love the eagles
Make some interesting points... If you look at the chart since 2006 or so and see the highs and lows of silver they look different than most years except for after 1971 or so.
Great video Yankee!
I took Tim’s advice from months ago, I paid off my car now only owe a small amount on the house, better then paying outrageous premiums
AWESOME!
Great information brother Yankee 🤝🙏🕊
Yankee, have you attempted acquiring a Zimbabwe gold coin? They came out in August.
What make of knife is that? Been interested in a tool like that...good content as always
It's a Hauge Out the Front (OTF) Sig Sauer edition. Illegal in many woke states, but not here in NH!
Yankee- I agree but sometimes I just gotta pull the trigger.
Sometimes you just Gotta do what you just Gotta do! 😆
What is your limit in 1/4 troy ounce of Gold? Im thinking buying some, I can't afford the ounce,
good vid dood!!!
3 to 4% premium is acceptable. It’s the state excise tax that kills retailers while buying from online dealer. My state is 5%. So a 5% tax takes the price of a gold coin up another $80 or $90.
Thanks for the video. I have been eying bars to save on premiums. Got a 500g this month, right before they sold out. I shoot for lower premiums but also look at any silver at under $25 an ounce as a good price, regardless if more of it is premium.
Good info, Yankee. I would buy 90% silver at $21, because I don't believe the spot price reflects the true value of the metal. We all know spot prices for gold and silver are manipulated. 90% silver is worth more than $21 or will be eventually. Same with gold. Spot price means nothing to me.
I agree with that. Been buying Morgan's from my LCS he has them $23
Junk silver the LCS I go to charges $24.00x face. He also charges $40.00-$45.00 per eagle
I remember buying eagles for 25dollars 4-5 years ago
@@abe9946 you need a new coin store my friend.
@@handduggraverdronline what a great deal hdg! My lcs had them at 24 earlier this year, then went to 25, then 26, now 28!
Hey yankee awesome video! Can you add a link for your sig in your next video?
I did a while ago...and they sold out! 😂
I do not believe there is a shortage. I can go online right now and buy almost anything I want. I am sick and tired of the interminable warnings about shortages that have NEVER materialized. It’s called PROPAGANDA. Here’s a tip: Believe nothing anyone tells you unless you can independently confirm it.
Great Videos
My question is if you buy uk sovereigns what premium do you pay?
Premium is determined by supply and demand. If there is a shortage of a particular product, the premium on that item will be high. It seems like PM's are becoming more and more popular and therefore, my guess is that we'll see much higher premiums in the future. Additionally, we should remember that the spot price is the paper price. Paper and physical are two different things.
nice OTF knife Yankee! which one is that? i have a similar one, but it is more dagger style and i like that tanto blade on yours.....
Thanks!! That’s actually a Clip Point model. It’s a Hogue Compound OTF. It’s the Sig Sauer model. 👌🏼
@@YankeeStacking nice. just did a cursory google search and they are out of stock everywhere. I will keep my eye open though, as that would be a nice addition to my collection
@@James1_2-4 lol. Yeah, after I highlighted it and the company I got it from with a prior video it sold out that night.
I don't pay much attention to spot paper prices. Physical prices have disconnected. I compare prices from physical dealers and buy the best deals in concert with service and reputation of the dealers.
Online dealers make it hard to buy the dip when they Jack up the premiums whenever gold or silver spot prices drop. I don’t even get excited anymore when silver prices take a dump.
In canada a good deal is 33$ oz when spot is at 26$,i still buy when i think the true value is far over then what we are paying especially if a new gold standard is yet to come
Great info to think about. What is your knife's make and model? I love it!
It’s the Hogue Compound Clip Point OTF-Sig Sauer edition. 🤤
This is super helpful. Thank you.
Went to my LCS yesterday and he had just gotten in about a 3 gallon bucket of 90% quarters. Didn't grab anything because he was charging 25x face which is crazy to me
Can you make a video on this again with any updates in the current market?
Enjoy your channel. Thank you for your content.
Question about purchasing silver from online dealers. When you make online purchases what is your preferred method of payment? The additional cost associated with certain payment types has kept me from pulling the trigger.
Remember buying generic silver rounds for 49 to 79 cents over spot on the regular and for spot price on black Friday Deals and first time purchases 🤑😁
I believe that the higher premiums more accurately reflect the suppression of the market price. A fed pivot would result in a spot price that would make a 20% premium on silver, or gold, look like nothing. It appears that fiat currency is coming to an end and there is no limit to where gods money can go. I’m just sticking to the plan no matter the markup. It’s only paper anyway…
Hey yankee! Great video. You should also do a video on gsr with premiums included into the gsr. That way ppl can really know what the current ratio Actually is. I don't think many ppl take that into consideration. That's why I've been buying gold (and a little platinum) for a little while now. Even the premium on golden eagles make for a better buy then generic rounds with the current premiums. Hopefully that made some sense lol. Hope you're well.
Thanks. I actually did discuss it in a prior video where I explained that the spread is where you can really lose out playing with the gold to silver ratio with PHYSICAL metals. That’s why I don’t. 😉
I love your knowledge about Silver and gold. I love watching your show and love watching/ listening to Tim. (I order from SD Bullion too). >Wayne
Thank you so much!!! 😊
Wow you are setting high upper limits for premiums, Silver been buying Buffalo Generic rounds for 11.2%, Gold Asahi 1 oz bars first 2 orders were over 4% but less than 5% last 2 orders were sub 3%. Now I need to learn how to buy the dips. Been stacking less than 3 months. From SD Bullion I got a 1 oz uncarded Britannia bar for 10 over spot, but had their CC surcharge, came out to about 5%. For those with great FICO scores I highly recommend APMEX Bullion Card 4% cashback towards future purchases and 150 welcome bonus, puts you well under SPOT if you buy just one bar. They also offer 0% APR for 12 months to some folks, if you are disciplined with your money, inflation is eating them not you.
I buy 90% at a similar rate to my 999 fine stack because it’s premiums will skyrocket once they’re all collected
5 percent? All the dealers around here in San Antonio are asking over 10 percent! What a racket. I quit buying precious metals. I'm out. Not buying online because easy to get lost or stolen and purchases traced. Love your channel, Yankee, but I'm out. Won't be selling what I do have though. Buying metals that low, those days are over
Awesome box of quarters 👍
Nice Video. Very informative. For silver, I don't look a premiums much any more. I look at the cost per ounce, but I am 60 yrs old and not looking to accumulate much more unless it is a really good deal.
It's good to keep an eye on costs, whatever their source. It's also good to keep an eye out for any good deals that come along.
Great info! I've never heard premiums laid out like that. I've bought hundreds in FV mostly halves and several state quarter rolls between 17 and 20x. 20x shipped is my cutoff. The last buy was the best, 56fv at 16x!!! Almost all halves, even a bunch of barbers, bit was rougher condition. I appreciate knowing how to target gold. I've never bought any but contemplating buying my first 1 oz.
Quite a few silver stackers eventually turn to gold, often when they have completed their ounces stacking goal. But it sure is hard
to justify buying any silver these days when premiums are so high and gold premiums on a percentage basis are so much lower.
I'm just so glad that I stacked silver heavily in the 2014-2019 time frame and don't have to participate in this premium circus. Still
buying some gold, though. I have an ounce goal there too and *might* be able to reach it sometime in 2023, if a SHTF scenario
doesn't happen between now and then. But whatever happens, having the amount that I now do should be of considerable help
in continuing to live a decent, if not luxurious, lifestyle.
That is excellent, James! Good for you. I stack both silver and gold and have from the very beginning. They’re both very important to me for similar yet very distinct reasons.
I have been pretty consistently seeing at $15Fv my best ever was closer to $5fv but that was a handful. bought not found.
Good vid Yankee!!!$$ Your limits sounded reasonable to me but I would have liked to hear what your limits are on Morgans. I found a somewhat local coin shop with good prices. He had some Morgans at his shop starting at $25.00 face he had others that were higher. I purchased 40 of the Morgans and I have to say they are in pretty decent condition. As much as I like SD Bullion and a few other online dealers I have to say that anymore I'm more than a bit reluctant to purchase online. It may sound silly to some folks but I don't like the idea that certain people can know what I'm buying. Just wait for the CBDC, then there will be no avoiding it. Stay well Yankee!!
Good deal on those Morgans, Joe. They are a really great coin to collect, IMO. I have over 100 Morgans in my collection and
400 Kennedy's. These are my favorite 90% silver coins. Also have quarters and dimes. All of these would be used in a barter
situation during hard times, if necessary. I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that this will work during hard times but don't
really see any good alternatives, especially if inflation is high and / or there is any kind of currency crisis as part of those times.
As to the CBDC, we need to actively petition our congress-critters and voice our opposition to any such liberty-killing monetary
policy. Tyrants the world over and throughout history could only dream of the kind of power and control this will confer on
those who are running the currency scheme. It. Must. Not. Be. Allowed.
I have to add that I still do pick up some GOLD and SILVER from SD. I was so glad when I found them. Before SD I was buying my metals from JM I look back on all the money I spent with JM if I was using SD I would have alot more SILVER.
Right there with you, Frank! 👍🏻
Good for you Frank! You’re doing great. 👌🏼
What is your take on old world gold like 20 francs or sovereigns etc.?
Silver Maples are my current target when monsters under 13k. No milkspotting, .9999 and the anticounterfeit features. Imho winner. Silver Rounds were 5 over spot. Paid the extra 2 bucks for sovereign coins.
Got to be physical.
Cheers
When premiums get ridiculous I try and play the ratio, or buy ammo, or other prepper stuff. What's on the list. 3rd flex fuel generator. propane. Always ammo. Silver any kind currently $25 and under/per troy ounce, Gold 24kt 1 troy ounce 5-8%.....I have a weakness for British Sovereigns an Double Sovereigns, we all have our peccadillos.
silver is a buy for me at $25 or less. i dont worry about premiums and spot
I’m curious about your thoughts on another YT’s idea of selling ASE’s. Now and using that money to buy more generic silver at lower premiums. I know your stacking tiers, but the idea of more silver is nice.
I was considering doing a video on that. And I might. However, the short answer is I’m keeping my silver eagles. 😉
What’s a good premium for 1/4 and 1/2 oz gold maple leafs ? Still relatively new
The only premium I have an issue with is the Silver Eagles, most others are ok but we've already seen a dramatic increase in premiums even since August. Hopefully it doesn't get higher than where it's at, but it probably will. I'm stacking more gold than anything at the moment, but I still snag the
$3-$4 over spot deal's on silver when I find them.
My LCS sells 90% at X 20 face tax included! also $30 silver eagles!
Awesome video Yankee. Nice refresher course