My VPN works fine too n I live in BJ. As for a lot of Chinese not interested in using VPN, there r a number of reasons: 1. language barrier; 2. Chinese have their own social media network; 3. Many Chinese believe Western mainstream medias r very biased towards China, which is unfortunately true.
@@jeremyneworleans lol I'm not sure anyone is all about Biden or Democrats. XD But yeah it would definitely kill his chances. Unfortunately, you're also assuming there is any chance of Yang being in the Biden Administration, which Biden has given no indication as of yet. In my ideal world, Biden would create a new Department called the Department of Technology and appoint Yang as the secretary. But since Biden's policy positions, or any position for that matter, are a mystery, it's anyone's guess.
I wasn't aware that Yang didn't make it on the NJ primary ballot. How's that work over there? Well, you have practice for the general now. I trust NJ is well in Biden's hands, so he can spare your vote.
Do we really want Facebook telling us which ideas are acceptable to express and which are not? Shouldn't we be free to hear alternate views that challenge our understanding, even if they are absurd, conspiratorial, offensive, or just wrong? Take, for example, the 1619 project, part of which was refuted by historians. Should this have been banned? Or should it be allowed to help us critically evaluate the foundations of the USA? If this moves forward, it will lead to protected ideas that cannot be questioned or challenged. It will lead to us having access only to ideas corporations find acceptable. It will lead to the restriction of our ability to critically evaluate ideas and understand why certain views are harmful. This is far more dangerous to democracy. Just ban harassment, threats of violence, and other forms of illegal speech. Let users be free to express/hear legal speech.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute. Google: Limits of Free Speech Facebook is a PRIVATE platform. Corporation ≠ Government
IIRC there are thousands of facebook moderators checking on dangerous trolling practices. But our free speech is protected. We may buy into proganda lies and express these lies on facebook. Shoud this individual posting be deleted? I think not... IIRC facebook is proposing to label this posting of lies. Id buy that - especially if the label has a link to a. fact-finder popup.
Yang. The solution is to have social media classes in high school, were you learn about the persuasion tricks used by conspiracy theorists and even watch this type of content with your teacher and discuss it. We need to build an immune system for this stuff, not legislate it out of existence.
Im a big supporter of UBI and canvassed for Yang. BUT, I strongly disagree with this whole episode. Social media should be treated as a POPS (privately owned public space) in terms of free speech. The platform is advertised as a PUBLIC forum, so the bill of wrights should apply. Im all for an advertising dividend for users, but language policing is not good. I cant remember the studdy, but the data shows that when miss information is part of an aggregate of public info being distributed, statisticly more people come to the correct conclusions. Censorship was proven to worsen isolation bubbles and drive people into them. Facebook should not be profiting off our data for free and without informed consent, BUT they are not responsible for what is expressed by private individuals on a public platform.
This, 1000%. Yang is my favorite guy, but as a *liberal* (not a conservative!) this terrifies me. I don't want a platform bigger than China, operating as THE public sphere, to have anything other than free speech and free association. There will be lots of negatives-of course-but it's the price we pay for a net positive. Darkness breeds more darkness; expose bad ideas with light.
I really agree assuming that this is considered a public place. Unfortunately, at this time it is still only a private forum so technically the rules for free speech don't apply. I think that Facebook is making the correct decision not to censor based on opinions as long as they do that across the board. However, with that note, I think that the companies that are trying to boycott them are just caving to the vocal minority and that can come back to bite them hard if Facebook sticks to it's guns and doesn't cave themselves.
@@dewikomo To be honest, it is not Andrew Yang I am worried about. My concern is all of the people that call for Cancellation being controlled by a media that is run by the super elite who are the ones that actually control everything. This whole Republican vs Democrat thing is a facade. This is an elites program to divide the lower classes in order to stay in control. They divert you through the media while they make secret deals to take more power. I know it sounds "conspiratorial" and yet the proof of it continues to build.
“A mindset of scarcity has a profound effect. Studies have shown that an inability to pay one's bills can reduce functional intelligence by the equivalent of 13 IQ points, almost one full standard deviation. Pervasive financial insecurity may actually be making us dumber.” ~ Andrew Yang. Deleting your Facebook account, +13 points! Welcome back!
This is what I like about Yang. He's a SME (subject matter expert) in 1000+ topics. He can speak and understand the language of...walstreet folks...old farts from Congress...young techies from San Jose...lawyers...scientists...etc.
This conversation (and the full, accompanying podcast) terrifies me. I just imagine all their words being replaced by Jesus, sinners, and the Christian conservative rhetoric I remember from the 80s. I don’t want to freeze society into our current way of thinking. We haven’t got it all figured out.
I think it means that we should not end up trying to make everyone write political correct language. Some people will always say stupid shit and who knows...maybe they ve just had a bad day and feel like smearing and swearing. This is the general problem with the internet, we can never really guess what state the people who write certain things are in.
I think that's the first time I've straight up disagreed with Yang. I believe we have to defend freedom of speech, consequences be damned. Tho its a very minor point. Yang still the best in the game
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute. Google: Limits of Free Speech Facebook is a PRIVATE platform. Corporation ≠ Government
@@albback8176 I agree with you in principle. What terrifies me is what is or is not allowed being decided by an ultra woke group with an insane ideology. That cannot be allowed to ever happen and that is what they're trying to force fbook to do. Twitter has already succumbed. I'm glad Zuckerberg is saying no in this case.
It’s all good. You have every right to believe that. I notice that conservative leaning folk often share the “all or nothing” perspective. They remind us of the believed “slippery slope” that will surely lead to all things not freedom, whether it be in regulating the economy, gun laws, healthcare care, care for the poor, heck even wearing a freaking mask during the pandemic. I personally believe regulation is the sign of a healthy functioning country and I can’t remember a time in which I felt my freedoms were infringed upon by the government.
Me, being a progressive anti racist who wants nothing more to see racism, systemic racism, and inequality defeated; I vehemently DISAGREE With AI that can detect hate speech, additional obscure rules placed on the users and panels of unknown individuals censoring whatever they consider to be hate speech, deleting accounts, removing political ads etc...All of this is very BAD. No No No No No. What people really need....is more power...not less. And by power...what I mean is...TRANSPARENCY What this ultimately comes down to is Facebook is just too damn big. As a platform....facebook should be transparent with EVERYTHING. We want details of what 3rd parties are purchasing our information. If we see a political ad....we should be able to know where it came from...who published it. This should be Law. We wouldn't have had as major of issues with Cambridge Analytica or propaganda if we knew where our data went, and where information is coming in....THAT is a real platform.....What facebook is right now...isn't that. Because you see....right now everything ONLY works one way...and effectively...it the facebook users that are getting screwed. Why? Because they do not have any power to do anything with their accounts or data. The whole business model is sketch...THAT is the issue. Anytime there is a "solution" to a problem that involves internet user's data being reviewed by some board or AI that has the power to censor and shutdown the user...you have BIG PROBLEMS. Who is in control of the AI...some private company not accountable to anything but their bottom line? That is bad enough. But what the hell happens when Autocrats or authoritarians get a hold of these "panels" or AI? Well if you can track "hate" speech...you have the ability to track...ANY SPEECH. This is an Authoritarian dream come true...you will NEVER have to EVER worry about ANY dissent. Oh look...this user continues to use targeted keywords about the products I am trying to have a monopoly over....HATE SPEECH! BANNED! (One less start up to worry about) . A progressive candidate made an ad about my company dumping sewage into the drinking water...FACT CHECK..False! Delete their account, cut off their donor base, HATE Speech! All of this leads to a very dark place. The internet...once a tool once used for freedom of information and speech....a tool that empowered millions of people worldwide....Will be the tool to crush and silence all of these things. This isn't how you defeat racism, hatred, discrimination, injustice, bigotry, or inequality...indeed it's quintessentially the opposite. This is the permanent opening of pandora's box to the worst forms of it! If Facebook is having issues with hate speech....perhaps begin taxing the shit out of them until they agree to full transparency with everything they do and give users right to go to court on any action or decision facebook makes involving that user. There is your 3rd party. Problem fucking solved.
So great. I love love love these videos / podcasts. It's so inspiring what Andrew Yang is bringing out in people. Benevolence, intelligence, information seeking, solution finding and forward thinking is spreading like wildfire.
The real problem is social media preys on young people before they've developed strong critical thinking skill capacities--one could say the addictive nature of social media click ads PREVENT the young from developing strong critical thinking skills... I think schools are failing in this too, despite good intentions... It's an all-around mess
When I first heard this guy, I thought, why is he democrat. He should be a republican. Then I found out about his unholy lust for censorship and I thought, oh yeah, total democrat.
Hey look, I would absolutely vote for Yang and disagree with his position on this. Creating algorithms to hunt for bad intentions in people’s language can go wrong pretty fast. If “hate speech” is going to be curbed or penalized by a corporation it needs to happen in the open like a court, not merely by an artificial intelligence nanny.
This was so informative. Yang providing this type of content is one of many reasons why I support him. Find another politician who talks and discusses in depth these types of topics. These different topics help make me understand how Yang shaped his policies. #MATH
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. Absolutely. Yang gets it better than anyone. Yang is a master at finding the pieces to the puzzle and also putting the pieces together.
CelineJones Trump's policies are antithetical to everything Yang has fought for and continues to fight for, so if you're on this video because you like Yang, yes Trump does need to go.
Yeah I don't know how I feel about that. Takes the power from a small group of corporate interests (good) and gives them to a small groups of programmer interests (Good? Bad? probably bad..) rather than just leaving it to the people who decide to share their thoughts (and who should do so thoughtfully and truthfully). Of course, there is the issue of MI/AI in spamming and flaming online discussions, and to combat THAT, I think you definitely need AI.
Wait. I thought the boycott happened in 2015. I've been Facebook chaste this whole time for nothing? I could've been getting Zucked for the past 5 years!
@@bohemianprince7944 You don't need Facebook to experience psychological trauma if you are immersed and engaged in the sociopolitical culture of the United States.
Plenty of “better than Facebook” apps have already started. Old people, (the demographic that Facebook owns) do not look for new apps to do what facebook does when that means taking the time to rebuild their friends list.
I’m uncomfortable with the idea of content-based restrictions on speech, especially when said restrictions are predicated on a category as nebulous and ill-defined as “hate speech.” Rather than Orwellian strictures on what people can and cannot say in their posts, those who are objectionable to the Facebook “authorities” should be warned, and if they persist, kick them off the platform. Restricting content will come back to haunt us, no question.
Google also makes money on ads... It's not a publisher. Fb is also not a publisher. Who's gonna watch the watchman? The only thing fb should adhere to is the 1st amendment and the few restrictions that exist for that. Period.
First time I've been disappointed with you Yang. the problem isn't that there is hate speech, of course there is, the problem is who decides what is and is not hate speech.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute. Google: Limits of Free Speech Facebook is a PRIVATE platform. Corporation ≠ Government
I want to agree with you but much of our law is already subjective. We have a jury after all and legal interpretation is not cut and dry either- someone or group always decides what is considered moral, neutral or immoral. From watching the first half Yang basically said they have so much money they could figure something out if they wanted. It’s not like he wanted some sjw leader to head it, just that someone ought to be looking into it as fairly and reasonable as possible. Speech isn’t entirely free as it stands already, we are just shifting the supervision from courts where they are ill suited, to the businesses that enable the speech.
Love the comment "what are you gonna do, yell it in the street?" I feel like I remember someone succeeding with that tactic around 1933, but every time I try to google it I get redirected to an ad for Purdue pharma's newest opiate even though I still have two whole bottles of the old ones. If I remember I'll come back and update this comment.
I don't think it's Facebook's (the company) fault, but it's def a big reason for changing the world for the worst. Instead of connecting people, it's actually torn my families and friends apart haha. Ironic.
00:50 So in the first minute what I'm hearing is the classic, "But HE STARTED IT!" Lol. "Toxicity" isn't to blame, you are to blame. When you look at the push for safe spaces, the validating of "triggers," and such, everyone is ignoring the fundamental truth: Nobody can make you upset, angry, or whatever, without your permission. And people give others permission all the time, in assuming they know what they're talking about, or that they have some authority over you. But you are the ultimate authority over yourself, and really that's what this is all about, IMO. It's a subtle form of brainwashing in which you automatically, and without thinking, assume others have control over you, or that you have less authority in making your own decisions or beliefs. What is not being taught or encouraged is: KNOW THYSELF. This requires introspection and critical thinking. But society and the "new world order" doesn't want people to develop critical thinking and analysis. They don't want people who are introspective. They want extroverted people who feel first, act now, and think never.
Hate speech is just a way for people to try to control what is said; this is pretty disappointing to see yang support this. Like something will always offend someone, but you don't have a right to not be offended, you have a right to say whats on your mind.
Here’s my thought.... before listening to John. You just introduced him ... I’m at that point in the video. Policing the speech via AI is a huge step. Is part of this effort going to include PSAs on how to avoid rudeness oneself? How to avoid reacting badly? How in terms of mental health do we bracket hate speech we *do* actually encounter and avoid spreading it? How do we put it into personal perspective. Because that is something that is really difficult to learn. We don’t necessarily know how to mentally or emotionally deflect meanness.
This is the one episode where I have found myself disagreeing with Yang in a major way.Do I have issues with Facebook? Yes. Could any of it be solved by having them amp up censorship? Hell no!
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. The woke don't have any rules, they just attack the easiest target they find, eventually they start attacking their own allies. So this supposed polarization never ends, eventually the platforms that speak up against this cancel culture will win out (and yeah that's facebook), the others will just keep losing users, in youtube many good creators are leaving because they constantly get hit by random, biased and unevenly applied rules.
@@tylertheeverlasting Not sure if anything you are saying is accurate. I tend to reject a prevalent frame of reference that peoples of any marginalized group are monolithic. I am my own person. I don't use the term woke, but I do place high value on conscientiousness and principles of compassion. My criticism of woke culture is that it implies psychological, spiritual and social growth is finite. Many soft racists of a majority ethnic persuasion feign awareness but often lack self awareness. They often perpetuate supremacy while they speak in opposition of it. Real opposition requires action. For me, growth takes exactly the length of a lifetime. It is my hope that I never stop growing, learning and understanding. Like language, culture snd societies, things that don't grow experience death. Often a slow one. I am 45 years young.
Who is working on VR for rallies? That would kick ass! Enjoying the hell out these podcasts, but I'm hungry for a Yang rally! Bet it would raise serious money for HF. And invite holoTupac! YAAAAAAAAAAANG!!!!
Don’t be stupid, Biden is better than trump by many fold... unless you want America to implode I highly suggest you not be so black and white in your thinking
@@user-ec1xi9yt9y nah nah nah. The point of democracy is you voting for the person you believe in. Biden may be better than trump, but he is still not good. I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils. #YangGang
Daniel McEachern I hear you.. but it is not wise. It’s much better for Yang to have an impact if he can get some sort of cabinet position or similar than have trump get re elected... if you maintain a all or nothing approach it will only hurt the cause not help it
I don't tell people whom to vote for, but I am at liberty to express disappointment. It is my hope you are not in a battleground state, but I will try to respect your sovereignty, even if I know we need both sovereignty and solidarity.
Me too it's the only logical solution! Joe Biden is not giving us anything except for stereotypical political talk with no promises about policies or anyting good towards a future! He is controlled by an alien species... He has long been dead. We have implanted Andrew gang with anti control device! #WriteInAndrewYang
The problem is the woke left deciding what's hate speech and what's not, and to them any dissenting opinion is hate speech. Which is, frankly, the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Andrew, please get educated on this topic and side with free speech against left censorship.
I’m a Liberal free-speech advocate. The idea that these giant corporations are virtue signaling by way of pulling out ad revenue in an effort to silence people is somehow brave or something is laughable. But I’m also someone who thinks Facebook is a garbage platform anyways. This is all just obnoxious.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute. Google: Limits of Free Speech Facebook is a PRIVATE platform. Corporation ≠ Government
*If Facebook truly wants to be a 'platform', then don't suggest, rank, filter, promote, demote, or otherwise influence any information. Because otherwise, if you're promoting or controlling any part of what people see, you're a publisher. No different than a TV network choosing what shows and ads to put in front of people. Period.*
Somehow not sad about the AI catching even versions where people are trying to re-appropriate negative language. As someone who is mixed, I think it's time to let go of words like the N-word etc.
Building an AI algorithm to detect negative intention to language will have unintended negative consequences ESPECIALLY if you give the algorithm power to punish or compel people.
Disagree with you on this one Andrew. I am no fan of Trump myself but Facebook should not be censoring political speech. You talk a lot about the control that these tech companies have over our lives, but what you say would just make it more so that the companies can violate our 1st amendment. This doesn't change the fact that Andrew is still the best out there.
I'm not ok with censorship of any form and I am not supportive of corporate activism to pressure Facebook to become a censor nor am I ok with government intervention. I don't want the censors to come for me some day, and I want to be able to hear, loud and clear, the most extreme voices. Don't sponsor or give money to platforms, that's fine, but I object to making it about a lack of censorship.
I am very disappointed Yang doesn't seem to understand why it's extremely dangerous to allow or encourage the censorship of any speech that is deemed "hate speech" by some special group of "enlightened" individuals. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away. "If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.” -- Noam Chomsky
My understanding of Facebook, Twitter, and other such things is that they get certain protections for acting as neutral platforms rather than curating their content, which would make them publishers, and liable for the content. The problem is, they have clearly, in the past, curated some of their content. If Facebook is moving in the direction of being a neutral platform, they are acting correctly. There are some points to be made about the selection of ad pairing with content, but for the most people these large advertisers are morally and politically in the wrong, as they are promoting censorship.
But Facebook is not like a magazine or a TV station. It is more like a soapbox in the town square or a kiosk. This seems unlike a publisher. (Hate speech would not be permissible on these platforms. )
A magazine or TV station is NOT the same thing!!! They hire people to create content and are therefore responsible for that content. Really Andrew? C'mon😮
⚠️ *_Please visit with Dr. Ron Paul (Liberty Report)?_* He was my idol, but the depth of his ignorance toward *UBI* & the pandemic is devastating. Unbelievable how he ended up trapped in that echo chamber. 💀
@Steve Lauria I think they were saying that corporations shouldn't be the ones who are being mad at Facebook and that those same corporations should not control what people see and hear.
Why does the DDP need an address IF any possible payout will be to a PayPal account? Seems unnecessarily invasive; people will be discouraged from participating. Also note that requiring an address is discriminatory since many #Homeless have emails and access to social media. They too should be included in this beneficial project.
Yang is arguing that Facebook should censor content that make wokescolds mad. There are legal statutes that define what is a publisher vs what is a platform, look it up !
I definitely liked that John covered how toxicity spreads, especially backed by the numbers. Folks don't often consider how negativity spreads like wildfire, and general can taint just about anything. It creates a gridlock of people racing to the bottom.
I've contracted and passed that mind virus more times than I care to admit. I am taking this personally, after honest reflection. Looking at the behavior honestly, I don't want to perpetuate the toxicity. But it is hard when barraged by words that express a lower value of my ethnicity. It does hurt.
Who is John Redgrave and why is he a guest on this podcast? Seems introductions were skipped in this discussion. I googled him and the first two returns are linknedin accounts for two different people.
Movements would impact FB much more if there were an alternative to it. There simply isn't. Instagram and Twitter, for example, are not alternatives for 'public discussion' on topic passions.
Isn't positive or negative information subjective? this could become a problem depending on just quashing smaller voices calling it misinformation, just like CNN would do against medicare for all being more expensive in the long run
It isn't. That's why there are rules on evry other platform. Even FB have a ban for nudity, because they think is bad. You can argue nudity isn't bad or wrong... but they still implement a ban on it.
John made a great point about the ML talent at Facebook and how they can be proactive versus reactive... address problems before they happen based on the data ... then Andrew said the same thing exactly in different words lol We're only beginning to understand the huge influence FB has on our global society. Whatever they do or in this case don't do ... is in their commercial interests and that's a problem when you get to FB level size and influence.
I entirely disagree that small-medium sized companies *must* market on FB to be viable, and I believe stating that as fact is myopic and disingenuous. I have an almost 6 year old mom & pop shop that has spent less than $100 on marketing, and we have more business than we can keep up with. Our marketing dollars went into dozens of mini cupcakes packages from the local Walmart, me slapping home-made business cards on them, and us delivering to companies around us. No sales...just walking in the door and saying "Here you go!" and walking out. How one markets, and more importantly, where they need to market, is entirely dependent on what they do. What is a reality is that in order to place anywhere on a Google search a company must have a FB profile, and man that pisses me off. By the way, FB lost me almost 4 years ago. I think they are pure evil, partly for your initiative to get paid for your own data, mostly because of the amount of hatred and divisiveness it supported during the 2016 campaign. Malcolm Nance taught me that my dislike was actually likely from russian bots, but it doesn't matter. My life is tons happier without Zuckerberg's nasty fingers in all my stuff.
It's the responsibility of government and law enforcement to monitor and protect the public on Facebook. Facebook is like the town square or any public area. It requires protection by public servants.
It may very well be but we've been waiting on the government for too long to do a lot of things that they seem incapable of addressing. And even more so in this political climate.
It's mostly used by people in their 50s and up. The easiest target for manipulation since they do not know how to fact check and can't tell the difference from real ads and fake ads :(.
I'll represent the 50's and over and say I think Millennials use it the most. They feel the need to advertise their relationship status for some reason.
@@uninsurable9028 it probably varies in different locations, but where I'm from most millennials have eithe deleted their FB or do not check it. I've asked a few and Snapchat or Tiktok comes up often for the younger folks. The older millennials are on Instagram. Most of my aunt's, uncles and friends' parents in their 50s (60s is prob more accurate) and up just got into FB a few years ago and are crazy about it
@@uninsurable9028 I agree...50's and up are also on there but mostly to stay in touch during the fake pandemic. No one has been connecting with each other in a meaningful way for years now. Social Media and the Fake Flu didn't end society...we did, with pointless online arguments, public shaming, celebrity obsessions, and obnoxious virtue signalling.
@@sooperd00p Fake pandemic... I can assure you it's real. Consider yourself lucky if none of your friends and family have been affected. I have friends and family who've been affected and know multiple people who have died from it. People I know who've survived it are still having physical issues months after they've recovered.
I am a youtube-r from China. I think Andrew Yang is an incredible guy👍
You would be correct lol.
Do the chinese people get to freely view what's going on in the u.s?
My VPN works fine too n I live in BJ. As for a lot of Chinese not interested in using VPN, there r a number of reasons: 1. language barrier; 2. Chinese have their own social media network; 3. Many Chinese believe Western mainstream medias r very biased towards China, which is unfortunately true.
Andrew, please talk with Bret Weinstein. Your country needs you now.
You mean Eric Weinstein?
@@JoHeLightning No I think they are referring to the Unity ticket with McRaven, in that case it would be Bret.
@Jesse oh you're totally right. I've been watching a bunch of Eric Weinstein videos. Too many Weinsteins. X_X
I'm all about it but wouldn't that shoot his chances of being in Biden's administration? Not that I'm all about Biden or the DNC.
@@jeremyneworleans lol I'm not sure anyone is all about Biden or Democrats. XD But yeah it would definitely kill his chances. Unfortunately, you're also assuming there is any chance of Yang being in the Biden Administration, which Biden has given no indication as of yet. In my ideal world, Biden would create a new Department called the Department of Technology and appoint Yang as the secretary. But since Biden's policy positions, or any position for that matter, are a mystery, it's anyone's guess.
I did write in Yang in my NJ primary mail in ballot
I wasn't aware that Yang didn't make it on the NJ primary ballot. How's that work over there? Well, you have practice for the general now. I trust NJ is well in Biden's hands, so he can spare your vote.
@@jperin001 I was so disappointed just Biden and Bernie's name was printed on my NJ ballot, but I proudly wrote in Andrew Yang!
How do we get Andrew a new headset. This is important :-p
Do we really want Facebook telling us which ideas are acceptable to express and which are not? Shouldn't we be free to hear alternate views that challenge our understanding, even if they are absurd, conspiratorial, offensive, or just wrong? Take, for example, the 1619 project, part of which was refuted by historians. Should this have been banned? Or should it be allowed to help us critically evaluate the foundations of the USA?
If this moves forward, it will lead to protected ideas that cannot be questioned or challenged. It will lead to us having access only to ideas corporations find acceptable. It will lead to the restriction of our ability to critically evaluate ideas and understand why certain views are harmful. This is far more dangerous to democracy.
Just ban harassment, threats of violence, and other forms of illegal speech. Let users be free to express/hear legal speech.
Exactly. I may not like the people being censored but I don't like the way this could go.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute.
Google: Limits of Free Speech
Facebook is a PRIVATE platform.
Corporation ≠ Government
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. Correct, but we're discussing what Facebook should do, not what they are legally obligated to do.
I'm glad there are still liberals who believe this. Sadly there are few of you left.
IIRC there are thousands of facebook moderators checking on dangerous trolling practices.
But our free speech is protected. We may buy into proganda lies and express these lies on facebook.
Shoud this individual posting be deleted? I think not... IIRC facebook is proposing to label this posting of lies. Id buy that - especially if the label has a link to a. fact-finder popup.
Yang. The solution is to have social media classes in high school, were you learn about the persuasion tricks used by conspiracy theorists and even watch this type of content with your teacher and discuss it. We need to build an immune system for this stuff, not legislate it out of existence.
Im a big supporter of UBI and canvassed for Yang. BUT, I strongly disagree with this whole episode. Social media should be treated as a POPS (privately owned public space) in terms of free speech. The platform is advertised as a PUBLIC forum, so the bill of wrights should apply. Im all for an advertising dividend for users, but language policing is not good. I cant remember the studdy, but the data shows that when miss information is part of an aggregate of public info being distributed, statisticly more people come to the correct conclusions. Censorship was proven to worsen isolation bubbles and drive people into them. Facebook should not be profiting off our data for free and without informed consent, BUT they are not responsible for what is expressed by private individuals on a public platform.
This, 1000%. Yang is my favorite guy, but as a *liberal* (not a conservative!) this terrifies me. I don't want a platform bigger than China, operating as THE public sphere, to have anything other than free speech and free association. There will be lots of negatives-of course-but it's the price we pay for a net positive. Darkness breeds more darkness; expose bad ideas with light.
I really agree assuming that this is considered a public place. Unfortunately, at this time it is still only a private forum so technically the rules for free speech don't apply. I think that Facebook is making the correct decision not to censor based on opinions as long as they do that across the board. However, with that note, I think that the companies that are trying to boycott them are just caving to the vocal minority and that can come back to bite them hard if Facebook sticks to it's guns and doesn't cave themselves.
Alan Mathews Come on, man. Yang is smarter than that. He will not make what you feared a reality.
@@dewikomo To be honest, it is not Andrew Yang I am worried about. My concern is all of the people that call for Cancellation being controlled by a media that is run by the super elite who are the ones that actually control everything. This whole Republican vs Democrat thing is a facade. This is an elites program to divide the lower classes in order to stay in control. They divert you through the media while they make secret deals to take more power. I know it sounds "conspiratorial" and yet the proof of it continues to build.
“A mindset of scarcity has a profound effect. Studies have shown that an inability to pay one's bills can reduce functional intelligence by the equivalent of 13 IQ points, almost one full standard deviation. Pervasive financial insecurity may actually be making us dumber.” ~ Andrew Yang. Deleting your Facebook account, +13 points! Welcome back!
I'm still voting for you Yang.
Great subject, again 👍 keep on punching 🤜🤜🤜
Petition to get Andrew Yang some nice headphones.
Wireless earphones have security and performance issues
Agnel Vishal do they have to be wireless to be an upgrade? I have no idea, I’ve used the same OG wireless pair for nearly 4 years.
@@agnelvishal5361 Russia might be listening. lol
@@agnelvishal5361 ....and a stand for his mic.
@@jeninamillion5297 Need not be wireless for an upgrade. I mistook the text
lol... gotta love Yang... he's so genuine and simple yet full of substance. We need real people like him to do politics...
No, we need real people like you to get a better education.
This is what I like about Yang. He's a SME (subject matter expert) in 1000+ topics. He can speak and understand the language of...walstreet folks...old farts from Congress...young techies from San Jose...lawyers...scientists...etc.
I appreciate what John’s company is doing; thanks for having him on #YangSpeaks!
This conversation (and the full, accompanying podcast) terrifies me.
I just imagine all their words being replaced by Jesus, sinners, and the Christian conservative rhetoric I remember from the 80s.
I don’t want to freeze society into our current way of thinking. We haven’t got it all figured out.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, can you give me an example?
I think it means that we should not end up trying to make everyone write political correct language.
Some people will always say stupid shit and who knows...maybe they ve just had a bad day and feel like smearing and swearing.
This is the general problem with the internet, we can never really guess what state the people who write certain things are in.
Love the Math shirt on Andrew! YangGang forever!
t-shirt clearance on yang2020.com
Andrew in a T-Shirt! This is major! What does this mean? Hmmm
Make American Think Harder!! That's exactly what we need in this madness time
The less dressed up he is the more powerful he becomes.
He C O M F Y
Even the hairdo, some bangs going on there...., Radical!
Laundry day!
I think that's the first time I've straight up disagreed with Yang. I believe we have to defend freedom of speech, consequences be damned. Tho its a very minor point. Yang still the best in the game
I agree. If you don't protect freedom of speech for the worst of us, you don't protect freedom of speech for the best of us.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute.
Google: Limits of Free Speech
Facebook is a PRIVATE platform.
Corporation ≠ Government
@@albback8176 I agree with you in principle. What terrifies me is what is or is not allowed being decided by an ultra woke group with an insane ideology. That cannot be allowed to ever happen and that is what they're trying to force fbook to do. Twitter has already succumbed. I'm glad Zuckerberg is saying no in this case.
What if someone constantly gets death threats and the platform just lets it happen? A.I. Tech of such kind has existed for a while already.
It’s all good. You have every right to believe that. I notice that conservative leaning folk often share the “all or nothing” perspective. They remind us of the believed “slippery slope” that will surely lead to all things not freedom, whether it be in regulating the economy, gun laws, healthcare care, care for the poor, heck even wearing a freaking mask during the pandemic. I personally believe regulation is the sign of a healthy functioning country and I can’t remember a time in which I felt my freedoms were infringed upon by the government.
Rumor has it that Yang's earphone cable gets shorter every time someone lies on the internet...
His face is going to be pressed up against the headphone jack in the next podcast.
The most sacred of our rights is free speech. Sometimes hate speech is free speech. Facebook as a publisher would be sued out of business.
A touch of poison. In your brain, your heart and underfoot. Where are the bees? Poisoned.
PEOPLE POWER is the only way to STOP THEM! ARE YOU AS HUNGRY FOR PEOPLE POWER AS I AM???
Me, being a progressive anti racist who wants nothing more to see racism, systemic racism, and inequality defeated; I vehemently DISAGREE With AI that can detect hate speech, additional obscure rules placed on the users and panels of unknown individuals censoring whatever they consider to be hate speech, deleting accounts, removing political ads etc...All of this is very BAD.
No No No No No. What people really need....is more power...not less. And by power...what I mean is...TRANSPARENCY
What this ultimately comes down to is Facebook is just too damn big. As a platform....facebook should be transparent with EVERYTHING. We want details of what 3rd parties are purchasing our information. If we see a political ad....we should be able to know where it came from...who published it. This should be Law. We wouldn't have had as major of issues with Cambridge Analytica or propaganda if we knew where our data went, and where information is coming in....THAT is a real platform.....What facebook is right now...isn't that.
Because you see....right now everything ONLY works one way...and effectively...it the facebook users that are getting screwed. Why? Because they do not have any power to do anything with their accounts or data. The whole business model is sketch...THAT is the issue.
Anytime there is a "solution" to a problem that involves internet user's data being reviewed by some board or AI that has the power to censor and shutdown the user...you have BIG PROBLEMS. Who is in control of the AI...some private company not accountable to anything but their bottom line? That is bad enough. But what the hell happens when Autocrats or authoritarians get a hold of these "panels" or AI? Well if you can track "hate" speech...you have the ability to track...ANY SPEECH. This is an Authoritarian dream come true...you will NEVER have to EVER worry about ANY dissent. Oh look...this user continues to use targeted keywords about the products I am trying to have a monopoly over....HATE SPEECH! BANNED! (One less start up to worry about)
. A progressive candidate made an ad about my company dumping sewage into the drinking water...FACT CHECK..False! Delete their account, cut off their donor base, HATE Speech!
All of this leads to a very dark place. The internet...once a tool once used for freedom of information and speech....a tool that empowered millions of people worldwide....Will be the tool to crush and silence all of these things.
This isn't how you defeat racism, hatred, discrimination, injustice, bigotry, or inequality...indeed it's quintessentially the opposite. This is the permanent opening of pandora's box to the worst forms of it!
If Facebook is having issues with hate speech....perhaps begin taxing the shit out of them until they agree to full transparency with everything they do and give users right to go to court on any action or decision facebook makes involving that user. There is your 3rd party.
Problem fucking solved.
So great. I love love love these videos / podcasts. It's so inspiring what Andrew Yang is bringing out in people. Benevolence, intelligence, information seeking, solution finding and forward thinking is spreading like wildfire.
The real problem is social media preys on young people before they've developed strong critical thinking skill capacities--one could say the addictive nature of social media click ads PREVENT the young from developing strong critical thinking skills... I think schools are failing in this too, despite good intentions... It's an all-around mess
Yes education is vital. Unfortunately, evil minded actors prey on whoever they choose to target, could be anyone.
It disappoints me to see Yang drink the kool-aid on this one.
Elaborate
He believes people are mostly dumb and need a government to make choices for them.
@@royaltyblessed2454 It is that Yang wants online censorship by platforms, like how Chinese apps do.
Gabriel Onofrei incorrect
When I first heard this guy, I thought, why is he democrat. He should be a republican. Then I found out about his unholy lust for censorship and I thought, oh yeah, total democrat.
I learned a lot from John Redgrave. Thanks for having him on AY.
Someone plz send AY some wireless headphones. This is so distracting 😆 #YangGangForever
#Unity2020
Hey look, I would absolutely vote for Yang and disagree with his position on this. Creating algorithms to hunt for bad intentions in people’s language can go wrong pretty fast. If “hate speech” is going to be curbed or penalized by a corporation it needs to happen in the open like a court, not merely by an artificial intelligence nanny.
This was so informative. Yang providing this type of content is one of many reasons why I support him. Find another politician who talks and discusses in depth these types of topics. These different topics help make me understand how Yang shaped his policies. #MATH
You don't have to campaign any more but can you just put your name on the ballot Andrew Yang?
He's wiser than that. He knows Trump needs to go.
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. Absolutely. Yang gets it better than anyone. Yang is a master at finding the pieces to the puzzle and also putting the pieces together.
Trump doesn't need to go. Grow up.
CelineJones Trump's policies are antithetical to everything Yang has fought for and continues to fight for, so if you're on this video because you like Yang, yes Trump does need to go.
@@SunscreenAndVitamins Offer that advice to trump and his cult
16:37 I hate political ads. People should do their own research instead of having it presented to them randomly
Yang & Zach, 2 of my fav humans! Keep it up! 👏🤜🤛
"We're using algorithms to tell us what's bad." 😂 gtfoh
Yeah I don't know how I feel about that. Takes the power from a small group of corporate interests (good) and gives them to a small groups of programmer interests (Good? Bad? probably bad..) rather than just leaving it to the people who decide to share their thoughts (and who should do so thoughtfully and truthfully). Of course, there is the issue of MI/AI in spamming and flaming online discussions, and to combat THAT, I think you definitely need AI.
Happy Holidays Andrew! I am thankful for you! Thx Can you put me in touch with John Redgrave? please lol best -j
If i owned telephone poles, would i be responsible for whatever got stapled to them?
Wait. I thought the boycott happened in 2015.
I've been Facebook chaste this whole time for nothing?
I could've been getting Zucked for the past 5 years!
Sameeee. I could have had my mental state screwed with for the past 5 years wtf.
@@bohemianprince7944 You don't need Facebook to experience psychological trauma if you are immersed and engaged in the sociopolitical culture of the United States.
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. this is my therapy for that lol.
Also The Portal
꧁ᜰ꙰࿐ or even come in contact with the ideologically possessed while just running errands..
Tell Jack Dorsey to start a better than FB platform that commits to becoming non profit once in the lead!
Plenty of “better than Facebook” apps have already started. Old people, (the demographic that Facebook owns) do not look for new apps to do what facebook does when that means taking the time to rebuild their friends list.
@@daniellove162 please give me app suggestions I am interested.
I’m uncomfortable with the idea of content-based restrictions on speech, especially when said restrictions are predicated on a category as nebulous and ill-defined as “hate speech.” Rather than Orwellian strictures on what people can and cannot say in their posts, those who are objectionable to the Facebook “authorities” should be warned, and if they persist, kick them off the platform. Restricting content will come back to haunt us, no question.
I hope this boycott will lead more people to open source software, and decentralized social media protocols.
Google also makes money on ads... It's not a publisher. Fb is also not a publisher. Who's gonna watch the watchman? The only thing fb should adhere to is the 1st amendment and the few restrictions that exist for that. Period.
Andrew should get some air pods.
Oh imagine an America with Yang as the president! Please #yang2024
I wish he could come back in for #2020 biden sucks
try the articles of unity to support that chance however unlikely any chance greater than the zero of not trying 🤷♀️ 🧢
Yes Biden sucks...but trump is DANGEROUS AND MUST BE TOOK DOWN.NO CHOICE.VOTE BIDEN IN...NO CHOICE.
Facebook needs a highly visible UNSUBSCRIBE button.
Still voting Yang
Writing in Yang
Trump is DANGEROUS. So many Americans dead. Dont waste your VOTE.GET trump OUT.THEN WE CAN WK ON GETTING YANG IN.🇺🇸🧢🦅
Should've took the Jacket I offered to gift you 🤦🏻♂️
🤣💖🌠💫✨
37:56, when your kids won't let go of your earphone cord. 😠
First time I've been disappointed with you Yang. the problem isn't that there is hate speech, of course there is, the problem is who decides what is and is not hate speech.
At least it's not Sjw deciding lol
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute.
Google: Limits of Free Speech
Facebook is a PRIVATE platform.
Corporation ≠ Government
I want to agree with you but much of our law is already subjective. We have a jury after all and legal interpretation is not cut and dry either- someone or group always decides what is considered moral, neutral or immoral. From watching the first half Yang basically said they have so much money they could figure something out if they wanted. It’s not like he wanted some sjw leader to head it, just that someone ought to be looking into it as fairly and reasonable as possible. Speech isn’t entirely free as it stands already, we are just shifting the supervision from courts where they are ill suited, to the businesses that enable the speech.
Love the comment "what are you gonna do, yell it in the street?"
I feel like I remember someone succeeding with that tactic around 1933, but every time I try to google it I get redirected to an ad for Purdue pharma's newest opiate even though I still have two whole bottles of the old ones. If I remember I'll come back and update this comment.
I don't think it's Facebook's (the company) fault, but it's def a big reason for changing the world for the worst. Instead of connecting people, it's actually torn my families and friends apart haha. Ironic.
00:50 So in the first minute what I'm hearing is the classic, "But HE STARTED IT!" Lol. "Toxicity" isn't to blame, you are to blame.
When you look at the push for safe spaces, the validating of "triggers," and such, everyone is ignoring the fundamental truth: Nobody can make you upset, angry, or whatever, without your permission.
And people give others permission all the time, in assuming they know what they're talking about, or that they have some authority over you. But you are the ultimate authority over yourself, and really that's what this is all about, IMO. It's a subtle form of brainwashing in which you automatically, and without thinking, assume others have control over you, or that you have less authority in making your own decisions or beliefs.
What is not being taught or encouraged is: KNOW THYSELF. This requires introspection and critical thinking. But society and the "new world order" doesn't want people to develop critical thinking and analysis. They don't want people who are introspective. They want extroverted people who feel first, act now, and think never.
Hate speech is just a way for people to try to control what is said; this is pretty disappointing to see yang support this. Like something will always offend someone, but you don't have a right to not be offended, you have a right to say whats on your mind.
Here’s my thought.... before listening to John. You just introduced him ... I’m at that point in the video.
Policing the speech via AI is a huge step.
Is part of this effort going to include PSAs on how to avoid rudeness oneself? How to avoid reacting badly? How in terms of mental health do we bracket hate speech we *do* actually encounter and avoid spreading it? How do we put it into personal perspective.
Because that is something that is really difficult to learn. We don’t necessarily know how to mentally or emotionally deflect meanness.
This is the one episode where I have found myself disagreeing with Yang in a major way.Do I have issues with Facebook? Yes. Could any of it be solved by having them amp up censorship? Hell no!
I have not used FB for four years since the orange head was elected.
It was toxic even before the Orange Muppet was elected which is why I refused to use it.
Does this mean my ad bids for July will be less expensive? YES!
Oh they'll be back as soon as they realize -"Get woke go broke"
Care to explain your position in detail?
I would like to see if the math works.
Thank you in advance.
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. Less get woke go broke and more get woke or go broke.
I'm not fluent in jibber jabber.
Can someone direct me to a reliable online translator.
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. The woke don't have any rules, they just attack the easiest target they find, eventually they start attacking their own allies. So this supposed polarization never ends, eventually the platforms that speak up against this cancel culture will win out (and yeah that's facebook), the others will just keep losing users, in youtube many good creators are leaving because they constantly get hit by random, biased and unevenly applied rules.
@@tylertheeverlasting Not sure if anything you are saying is accurate.
I tend to reject a prevalent frame of reference that peoples of any marginalized group are monolithic. I am my own person. I don't use the term woke, but I do place high value on conscientiousness and principles of compassion.
My criticism of woke culture is that it implies psychological, spiritual and social growth is finite.
Many soft racists of a majority ethnic persuasion feign awareness but often lack self awareness. They often perpetuate supremacy while they speak in opposition of it. Real opposition requires action.
For me, growth takes exactly the length of a lifetime.
It is my hope that I never stop growing, learning and understanding.
Like language, culture snd societies, things that don't grow experience death. Often a slow one.
I am 45 years young.
Andrew "I believe in censorship" Yang
Who is working on VR for rallies? That would kick ass! Enjoying the hell out these podcasts, but I'm hungry for a Yang rally! Bet it would raise serious money for HF. And invite holoTupac! YAAAAAAAAAAANG!!!!
Sorry folks, I'm voting Yang. Not biden.
Don’t be stupid, Biden is better than trump by many fold... unless you want America to implode I highly suggest you not be so black and white in your thinking
@@user-ec1xi9yt9y nah nah nah. The point of democracy is you voting for the person you believe in.
Biden may be better than trump, but he is still not good. I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.
#YangGang
Daniel McEachern I hear you.. but it is not wise. It’s much better for Yang to have an impact if he can get some sort of cabinet position or similar than have trump get re elected... if you maintain a all or nothing approach it will only hurt the cause not help it
I don't tell people whom to vote for, but I am at liberty to express disappointment.
It is my hope you are not in a battleground state, but I will try to respect your sovereignty, even if I know we need both sovereignty and solidarity.
Me too it's the only logical solution! Joe Biden is not giving us anything except for stereotypical political talk with no promises about policies or anyting good towards a future! He is controlled by an alien species... He has long been dead. We have implanted Andrew gang with anti control device! #WriteInAndrewYang
The problem is the woke left deciding what's hate speech and what's not, and to them any dissenting opinion is hate speech. Which is, frankly, the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Andrew, please get educated on this topic and side with free speech against left censorship.
your comment paints with too large of a brush. show an example where a "dissenting opinion" is labeled as hate speech...
@@chottstuff th-cam.com/video/EQICXcPBG8c/w-d-xo.html
This is exactly the AI I have been saying we need. Now can we get one that identifies clickbait articles before we open them?
Will Yang's name be on the ballot??
Zach step it up
I’m a Liberal free-speech advocate. The idea that these giant corporations are virtue signaling by way of pulling out ad revenue in an effort to silence people is somehow brave or something is laughable. But I’m also someone who thinks Facebook is a garbage platform anyways. This is all just obnoxious.
The First Amendment protects your speech from government interference, and not even then is the 1st Amendment absolute.
Google: Limits of Free Speech
Facebook is a PRIVATE platform.
Corporation ≠ Government
@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. Spamming the comment section is highly annoying.
*If Facebook truly wants to be a 'platform', then don't suggest, rank, filter, promote, demote, or otherwise influence any information. Because otherwise, if you're promoting or controlling any part of what people see, you're a publisher. No different than a TV network choosing what shows and ads to put in front of people. Period.*
Watching from Florida. Thank you for keeping the push going Andrew.
Somehow not sad about the AI catching even versions where people are trying to re-appropriate negative language. As someone who is mixed, I think it's time to let go of words like the N-word etc.
Building an AI algorithm to detect negative intention to language will have unintended negative consequences ESPECIALLY if you give the algorithm power to punish or compel people.
I miss the good old days where you talked to one person and regulated the amount of input.
By you I mean society in general.
Disagree with you on this one Andrew. I am no fan of Trump myself but Facebook should not be censoring political speech. You talk a lot about the control that these tech companies have over our lives, but what you say would just make it more so that the companies can violate our 1st amendment. This doesn't change the fact that Andrew is still the best out there.
I'm not ok with censorship of any form and I am not supportive of corporate activism to pressure Facebook to become a censor nor am I ok with government intervention. I don't want the censors to come for me some day, and I want to be able to hear, loud and clear, the most extreme voices. Don't sponsor or give money to platforms, that's fine, but I object to making it about a lack of censorship.
Who is the cool looking dude in the MATH tee? Is that Andrew?
Facebook should pay their fair share because of causing anxiety and depression on some of the American people.
I am very disappointed Yang doesn't seem to understand why it's extremely dangerous to allow or encourage the censorship of any speech that is deemed "hate speech" by some special group of "enlightened" individuals. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away.
"If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.” -- Noam Chomsky
My understanding of Facebook, Twitter, and other such things is that they get certain protections for acting as neutral platforms rather than curating their content, which would make them publishers, and liable for the content. The problem is, they have clearly, in the past, curated some of their content. If Facebook is moving in the direction of being a neutral platform, they are acting correctly. There are some points to be made about the selection of ad pairing with content, but for the most people these large advertisers are morally and politically in the wrong, as they are promoting censorship.
Andrew I got the light that illuminates the way to the white house if you just do this one thing
Decentralize social media!
But Facebook is not like a magazine or a TV station. It is more like a soapbox in the town square or a kiosk. This seems unlike a publisher. (Hate speech would not be permissible on these platforms. )
Love Yang, but delegating an A.I. as censor is a scary first step towards giving up our Humanity.
A magazine or TV station is NOT the same thing!!! They hire people to create content and are therefore responsible for that content. Really Andrew? C'mon😮
⚠️ *_Please visit with Dr. Ron Paul (Liberty Report)?_* He was my idol, but the depth of his ignorance toward *UBI* & the pandemic is devastating. Unbelievable how he ended up trapped in that echo chamber. 💀
I disagree with the Facebook boycott & disagree with your take Andrew.
@Steve Lauria I think they were saying that corporations shouldn't be the ones who are being mad at Facebook and that those same corporations should not control what people see and hear.
Why does the DDP need an address IF any possible payout will be to a PayPal account? Seems unnecessarily invasive; people will be discouraged from participating. Also note that requiring an address is discriminatory since many #Homeless have emails and access to social media. They too should be included in this beneficial project.
How does this guy NOT know Jaron Lanier???
Andrew, please -- for the sake of your vertebrae -- get some bluetooth headphones! Or at least an audio extension cable!
Damn u love yang so much. It hurt hearing him say he wanted to limit free speech
Yang is arguing that Facebook should censor content that make wokescolds mad. There are legal statutes that define what is a publisher vs what is a platform, look it up !
th-cam.com/video/eUWIi-Ppe5k/w-d-xo.html lawyer that explains the platform vs publisher debate
I definitely liked that John covered how toxicity spreads, especially backed by the numbers. Folks don't often consider how negativity spreads like wildfire, and general can taint just about anything. It creates a gridlock of people racing to the bottom.
I've contracted and passed that mind virus more times than I care to admit.
I am taking this personally, after honest reflection. Looking at the behavior honestly, I don't want to perpetuate the toxicity.
But it is hard when barraged by words that express a lower value of my ethnicity.
It does hurt.
John mentioned his previous important work (child trafficking) was acquired; do we know what they are doing with the AI technology?
Who is John Redgrave and why is he a guest on this podcast? Seems introductions were skipped in this discussion. I googled him and the first two returns are linknedin accounts for two different people.
twitter.com/jredgraves
The Well WAS wonderful at first.
Movements would impact FB much more if there were an alternative to it. There simply isn't. Instagram and Twitter, for example, are not alternatives for 'public discussion' on topic passions.
Isn't positive or negative information subjective? this could become a problem depending on just quashing smaller voices calling it misinformation, just like CNN would do against medicare for all being more expensive in the long run
It isn't. That's why there are rules on evry other platform. Even FB have a ban for nudity, because they think is bad. You can argue nudity isn't bad or wrong... but they still implement a ban on it.
John made a great point about the ML talent at Facebook and how they can be proactive versus reactive... address problems before they happen based on the data ... then Andrew said the same thing exactly in different words lol
We're only beginning to understand the huge influence FB has on our global society. Whatever they do or in this case don't do ... is in their commercial interests and that's a problem when you get to FB level size and influence.
Jesus, Yang hawking march using his discount code? wtf? IS this an ad?
I entirely disagree that small-medium sized companies *must* market on FB to be viable, and I believe stating that as fact is myopic and disingenuous. I have an almost 6 year old mom & pop shop that has spent less than $100 on marketing, and we have more business than we can keep up with. Our marketing dollars went into dozens of mini cupcakes packages from the local Walmart, me slapping home-made business cards on them, and us delivering to companies around us. No sales...just walking in the door and saying "Here you go!" and walking out. How one markets, and more importantly, where they need to market, is entirely dependent on what they do. What is a reality is that in order to place anywhere on a Google search a company must have a FB profile, and man that pisses me off. By the way, FB lost me almost 4 years ago. I think they are pure evil, partly for your initiative to get paid for your own data, mostly because of the amount of hatred and divisiveness it supported during the 2016 campaign. Malcolm Nance taught me that my dislike was actually likely from russian bots, but it doesn't matter. My life is tons happier without Zuckerberg's nasty fingers in all my stuff.
It's the responsibility of government and law enforcement to monitor and protect the public on Facebook. Facebook is like the town square or any public area. It requires protection by public servants.
It may very well be but we've been waiting on the government for too long to do a lot of things that they seem incapable of addressing. And even more so in this political climate.
I've been boycotting Facebook for 2 years. More because I think it's horrible for your mental health, but yeah
Just a couple nannies sitting around planning every aspect of your life.
"People still use facebook?" - me in 2013
It's mostly used by people in their 50s and up. The easiest target for manipulation since they do not know how to fact check and can't tell the difference from real ads and fake ads :(.
I'll represent the 50's and over and say I think Millennials use it the most. They feel the need to advertise their relationship status for some reason.
@@uninsurable9028 it probably varies in different locations, but where I'm from most millennials have eithe deleted their FB or do not check it. I've asked a few and Snapchat or Tiktok comes up often for the younger folks. The older millennials are on Instagram. Most of my aunt's, uncles and friends' parents in their 50s (60s is prob more accurate) and up just got into FB a few years ago and are crazy about it
@@uninsurable9028 I agree...50's and up are also on there but mostly to stay in touch during the fake pandemic. No one has been connecting with each other in a meaningful way for years now. Social Media and the Fake Flu didn't end society...we did, with pointless online arguments, public shaming, celebrity obsessions, and obnoxious virtue signalling.
@@sooperd00p Fake pandemic... I can assure you it's real. Consider yourself lucky if none of your friends and family have been affected. I have friends and family who've been affected and know multiple people who have died from it. People I know who've survived it are still having physical issues months after they've recovered.
Yang/Sam Harris