I LOVE Michaeleen's book! I'm a bit of a parenting book junkie, I find them fascinating even the ones I greatly disagree with 😂 But Hunt Gather Parent is my absolute favourite, everything in that book just made sense to me ❤
About 44:00. I recall being a toddler and really wanting to help the adults. Fortunately it was somewhat tolerated. To shoo a child away may result in a lazy adult who recoils at work. So much good stuff in this conversation. Rather than continually adapting to all the new technologies perhaps we should be pushing back. I fear where we will end up if we don't.
I'm 43 minutes in and I started thinking about how maybe one reason so many people are struggling with disordered sleep in Western societies is because of how many of us sleep alone
What was most contr intuitive for me were feeding on demand and cosleeping. I wish I was more sure with my first child. I can survive only on strict schedule and a good night sleep with a child in another room. Do as best for you, the parent.
I felt exactly the same. I was fortunate to have been a mother in an era when it was believed to have a young baby in your bed was a complete "no no" as you may suffocate or roll on the child in your sleep. I get anxious whenever I see a baby sleeping in their parents beds, or lying on their backs in cots or prams, what if they choked on vomit which used to be a major concern.
Will check out Michaeleen's 📖... I think about this topic all the time. America totally got screwed up by Hollywood movies like I's a Wonderful Life which showed a small town where everyone watches out for each other. Wish it were so!!
If North Americans could turn their performative respect for indigenous wisdom into actual behaviour change the world would be a better place and children would certainly be much happier
@@EnglishFolkWisdom The poisonous childhoods only seem to reflect one class of society. Many other families are as they have been for a very long time. What I do worry about is that we are now in a second generation of babies raised in daycare and this was not even mentioned. But 40% mortality is horrific and not something anyone would want
To the question "how do they have sex if they share a bed with their kids?". I do that and we never had a problem. Kids sleep more hours than adults do, so if the kid is asleep at 9 in our bed, we can have sex in the living room or in a spare room. It has also happened, when the kids were just a few months old, to have sex in the same room and even bed where they're sleeping. They never woke up. I have the impression that they're more likely to wake up if we're somewhere else, for some reason.
Fellow Australian, when I was a young mother in the outer suburbs all the women in my street were pregnant or at home with young children. None of what they are saying was true.
20:05 Majority of childcare psychology being written by the sex who generally did little of the heavy lifting of the childrearing? Mostly doing child studies on children who had experienced a separation from the mother/primary care givers and treated in unnatural artificial environments? Perhaps.
@ They are. They call them mental health units and care homes. I was referring to the early to mid 1900s, where the majority of neurodivergent children ended up. Think Temple Grandin and folk like her back then.
@@GraceHarwood88 We did have orphanages in the early twentieth century. My Australian state was the first place to try to replace orphanages with foster care, in the 1800s but the large institutions could afford refrigerators and convinced the parliament that this was required for bottle fed babies. I have worked in the foster system and found it to perform excellently, with multiple checks and balances. I have just listened to a John Anderson conversation about the problems facing children today. I do recommend.
I LOVE Michaeleen's book!
I'm a bit of a parenting book junkie, I find them fascinating even the ones I greatly disagree with 😂 But Hunt Gather Parent is my absolute favourite, everything in that book just made sense to me ❤
About 44:00. I recall being a toddler and really wanting to help the adults. Fortunately it was somewhat tolerated. To shoo a child away may result in a lazy adult who recoils at work. So much good stuff in this conversation. Rather than continually adapting to all the new technologies perhaps we should be pushing back. I fear where we will end up if we don't.
I'm 43 minutes in and I started thinking about how maybe one reason so many people are struggling with disordered sleep in Western societies is because of how many of us sleep alone
There used to be a saying, "It takes a whole village to raise a child."❤
I loved Michaeleen’s book! It’s my favourite parenting book I’ve ever read.
I needed this today!!!
Another great episode!
Nice podcast!
Such a wholesome channel
What was most contr intuitive for me were feeding on demand and cosleeping. I wish I was more sure with my first child. I can survive only on strict schedule and a good night sleep with a child in another room.
Do as best for you, the parent.
I felt exactly the same. I was fortunate to have been a mother in an era when it was believed to have a young baby in your bed was a complete "no no" as you may suffocate or roll on the child in your sleep. I get anxious whenever I see a baby sleeping in their parents beds, or lying on their backs in cots or prams, what if they choked on vomit which used to be a major concern.
Will check out Michaeleen's 📖... I think about this topic all the time. America totally got screwed up by Hollywood movies like I's a Wonderful Life which showed a small town where everyone watches out for each other. Wish it were so!!
If North Americans could turn their performative respect for indigenous wisdom into actual behaviour change the world would be a better place and children would certainly be much happier
I've never been to North America but did you hear the part about 40% child mortality?
@@grannyannie2948 Did you hear the part about children's mental health? Ultra modern life is poisonous to child development
@@EnglishFolkWisdom The poisonous childhoods only seem to reflect one class of society. Many other families are as they have been for a very long time. What I do worry about is that we are now in a second generation of babies raised in daycare and this was not even mentioned. But 40% mortality is horrific and not something anyone would want
@@EnglishFolkWisdom I just listened to a John Anderson conversation about what is truly toxic for children today.
@@grannyannie2948 Jolly Heretic Dutton argued that having a 40% mortality rate got rid of the sick people and reduced the number of depressed adults.
To the question "how do they have sex if they share a bed with their kids?". I do that and we never had a problem. Kids sleep more hours than adults do, so if the kid is asleep at 9 in our bed, we can have sex in the living room or in a spare room. It has also happened, when the kids were just a few months old, to have sex in the same room and even bed where they're sleeping. They never woke up. I have the impression that they're more likely to wake up if we're somewhere else, for some reason.
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Glad i got a working class Aussie upbringing. Doesn`t fuck you up as much
Fellow Australian, when I was a young mother in the outer suburbs all the women in my street were pregnant or at home with young children. None of what they are saying was true.
Same
What if children aren't cooperative?
20:05 Majority of childcare psychology being written by the sex who generally did little of the heavy lifting of the childrearing?
Mostly doing child studies on children who had experienced a separation from the mother/primary care givers and treated in unnatural artificial environments? Perhaps.
Are you describing daycare? I think this is causing trauma for children.
@ I was referring to the institutionalized children mostly, but I suppose similar could apply to daycare, especially under the toddler age range.
@@GraceHarwood88 I see. I don't think children are institutionalized in my country anymore, except for daycare which is now in its second generation.
@ They are. They call them mental health units and care homes.
I was referring to the early to mid 1900s, where the majority of neurodivergent children ended up. Think Temple Grandin and folk like her back then.
@@GraceHarwood88 We did have orphanages in the early twentieth century. My Australian state was the first place to try to replace orphanages with foster care, in the 1800s but the large institutions could afford refrigerators and convinced the parliament that this was required for bottle fed babies.
I have worked in the foster system and found it to perform excellently, with multiple checks and balances. I have just listened to a John Anderson conversation about the problems facing children today. I do recommend.
I really only eat hot dogs nowadays
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