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I would absolutely love it if you could have Prof. Dr. Hans-Georg Moeller on your podcast to discuss his take on morality. His message is important in these times of political polarization and deserves to be heard by more people. He offers a more nuanced perspective on the topic compared to the likes of Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris."
When referring to guys having access to more women and women only being able to create with one at a time, it’s essentially quality and quantity, with women being qualitative and the guys being quantitative. More does not mean better, quality is better than quantity and gives better outcomes in the long run. It’s true, if a guy has resources and doesn’t put them toward that woman, the woman typically looks at him as if he has no resources. What good is a guy with resources if he isn’t using them on her, it shows he is stingy and not a good provider or protector and not good as a mate.
If a woman has had a lot of work done, she is not naturally or biologically as she presents which means her genes code for who she was not who she became which influences selection based on looks. That person had to make themselves look like what they were in competition with, to remove access from the naturally biologically beautiful woman to continue on and try to remove her. So attacks on beauty or attempting to get work done to look like the beautiful woman does biologically is a form of competition with other women and to have guys continue on with them rather than the biologically beautiful woman.
I really appreciate all the focus on women’s health that you put into your podcast. You have the best guests and have really given so many great perspectives on human health and how woman’s health has affected us all.
It's honestly been the best because my typical media, sports and anime, do not highlight women's thinking, so it's helped me expand who I should look at for additional research and thought! He's helping his audience very much with this
Hormonal birth control in particular is severely downplayed in regards to the impact it's had on society, and not always in a good way. It was probably the most impactful invention since the steam engine.
Honestly the way he forms Qs is just off limits! Very empathetic and carefully worded questions that get the interviewee to answer so thoroughly. As a listener I’m always so fascinated! Like I couldn’t have asked better, honestly THANK YOU ❤
I was on the pill from 14y until I was 34. I am 44 now. It took 3 to 4 years to become my normal self again. And I had to mourn the fact that for 20 years I didn’t really know myself. When I was on the pill I became harsher and edgier, without it I am softer, more feminine and it feels so much better!
This is the reason I may get off of it for a while and see what happens. I feel so disconnected from my softness like I'm on the wrong side of the glass
I have endometriosis and had irregular cycles in my late teens/early 20s. I went on the birth control pill for 5 years, and it stabilized my menstrual cycle for the following 25 years. So grateful that I was able to receive this medical care. Thank you for taking on these kinds of topics! I feel seen 💛
@@Subspace._tripmine it's not right for everyone. I had DVT and PE so I'm not allowed to take it or any estrogen, if I take a pill it's progesterone only and there's risk too. My body overproduces estrogen so in the end I had to go through medical menopause. Don't recommend it.
My mom wouldn't let my sisters go on BC because, and I quote, "It turns you into the kind of person who makes the kind of decisions the regular you would never consider." We all thought she was being silly and overprotective. Well 20 years later and the research keeps proving my mom right. Thanks, Mom.
Weird because I don't think I ever had that issue and I'm back on it now and working on some pretty large campaigns so if anything the decisions it made me make made me more successful if that's true.
Absolutely. Read my comment. Your Body is a Gift..I had to create. -I so feel for these last 3 generations. Depression..no wonder. They were taught that a relationship & sexual intimacy was not even required.
I'm a man and ofc I click this episode. Stuff like this is interesting and I'm not even primarily driven to "understand my gf" or anything, I just want to understand. I think we should always to do that and not just take interest in a few things that directly impact ourselves. That being said, all of this impacts me one way or another anyway as humanity is both men and women. Good episode! Very interesting!
@@ToxicHorsePuckyHe said he's not **Primarily** driven to understand his girlfriend. He does care but the biggest reason seems to be curiosity or general empathy
My experience with using estrogen birth control is that I was a much happier, more relaxed person with more interest in sex. Freedom from fear of pregnancy was amazing - and so was the regulation of my menstrual cycle and huge reduction in blood loss and pain. Endometriosis made my life a misery without the pill. The pill also reduced migraine attacks to bearable. There's never a one-size-fits-all.
I have PMDD and birth control quite literally saved my life by stabilizing my hormones. I would have unalived myself a long time ago if not, but I’m glad more research is being done on women in general. Great discussion !
Same, it makes me a sane person, though if i had known earlier, that it could help me, it would have saved me over a decade of suffering and thinking i'm a crazy person. I do appreciate the research on womens health now.
The pill did wonders for my PMDD for three years until it came back. The body tends to seek homeostasis. I'm glad your relief appears to be more sustained.
Then you definitely should have tried the mini pill which doesn't have estrogen, only progesterone, and that is actually the hormone we lack more during PMDD due to mass estrogen dominance because of our environment. Progesteron saved my life
I have PMDD and I'm quite certain the reason is because I took hormonal birth control for an extended period of time from adolescence to adulthood. Synthetic hormones are not the answer. They are literally just masking the issue, they are not resolving it. Glad you're feeling better but its not a long term solution.
I stopped taking birth control pill after 11 years (starting from age 19) and I was wearing a health tracker smart ring that tracked my sleep and physical activity. I was shocked to see that ALL of my metrics (HRV, respiratory rate, resting heart rate, stress, recovery, etc.) improved significantly a week after I got off the pill. I had no idea it had such a negative effect on my heart and overall wellbeing...
What an incredible episode such a needed conversation. I was also put on the pill at the age of 13 without being told any of the potential side effects. Spent my entire teen years crippled due to anxiety and the most severe depression. Came off all birth control as an adult and the difference was unbelievable, I suddenly felt like the person I was meant to be all along! Can only describe it as feeling a complete inner calm. Would never touch any form of birth control again
@@Malcriada115 people go on the pill for acne, to stop cramps, if you have pmdd, or a variety of other reasons that aren’t one being sexually active… hope that helps
I'm not saying any specific claims made here are wrong but please be aware Mr Bartlett is often found promoting pseudoscience and has a profound financial interest in doing so.
@@FoobAr-p8qwhat you’re trying to do is called poisoning the well. You know that there’s plenty of studies spanning decades confirming what the doctor is saying, so to use such a tactic to discredit what can be easily verified is deceptive at best.
Sadly no one in the mainstream dares ask if all this hysteria and man hating, in the modern society is largely tied to most women growing up on the pill, for a few generations now.
@@raifthemad that is the most idiotic and misogynistic thing ive read today. Congratulations Were you around hundreds of years ago for the hysteria craze? Maybe be less of an asshole and stop trying to control women's bodies.
@@Aliciae411 Is that data for all ages, or out of those that haven't gone to menopause and are old enough to be prescribed it? Also even 12% of female population being much more irritable, emotional, impulsive and repulsed by masculinity would explain far left quite adequately.
There is non-hormonal birth control options. Those are best. It’s the hormone designed birth control that can potentially cause cancer in women, lower their sex drives, and also have long lasting negative effects on a woman’s natural fertility when she finally does decide she wants to have children.
@@MindYourOwn777I was briefly in birth control in my early 20 to control my cycle because it was so irregular. Doctor said it have no signs effects. Anyways 20 years later is when I see medical professional said how horrible it is. What I am saying is you can think it is great now until the real research decide to let people know.
My doc insists I need it due to my long periods. I am worried about it and will go off it regardless. But whats the alternative for my heavy bloodloss and abnormally long periods :/
Just came off taking birth control from the age of 19 until being 25 (now I’m 26) and I felt like I went through a second puberty it was insane. But now (over a year later), I can truly say with 100% certainty, I have never felt more like myself in my whole life being off of it. SO much better. My moods are more stable, I’m not constantly hungry, I have more energy, I sleep better, I have more confidence, higher sex drive, more in touch with my feminine side and overall more happy.
This is a fascinating and important topic. It challenges us to consider the potential impact of hormonal birth control on our sense of self. It's a conversation that needs to be had.
I stopped dating a guy because he basically demanded me to get on birth control. I didn’t like that I had to make that decision for my body for him, knowing that I would never get it as a single individual. Intuitively I knew I did not want to sacrifice that for him, but physically it showed up as in me gaining weight And minor stress due to feeling the pressure of that decision. I’m so happy that I chose what’s best for me 🎉
I was on normal birth control from 13-16. Had unbelievable mood swings, depression and had no idea. Thought it was me. Went off, never again, I’m my forties now and have had a copper IUD in for 5 years. Best decision I EVER made.
In between sets at a punk rock show in Gainesville, FL circa 2000, I met a girl at a booth passing out literature that warned me of the dangers of hormonal birth control. I had never heard of such a concern before that moment, and it set me on a path of contemplation. I am so glad to see this conversation reach beyond the limitations set by feminist politics. The risks of hormonal birth control are a very real health issue that need to be considered with an open mind and an intention to create healthier and happier people. Thank you for this conversation!
It's refreshing to hear a conversation like this in a neutral, non-emotionally, politically charged way that acknowledges the research and history behind men/women and birth control. Food for thought, for sure.
You have to be careful when looking at sociology and historical outcomes. Is it biological or neuropsychological or is it what is allowed or available. It may happen in history because that is what has been allowed. When looking at cultures that have an egalitarian structure or allow women, there is evidence of female risk takers. Even with people having less sex younger, they are also aware of STDs that cannot be cured or can kill that were not talked about in previous generations.
@@JoanLBlack Also the author herself has been criticised for her gender essentialism so it's not like she's free of controversy. I'd also argue that there's not a lot of studies carried out on this because it's such an understudied and underfunded field.
@@JoanLBlack Exactly! Cultural patterns, historically, are often shaped by trauma, not biology. Oppression of women is so behaviourally embedded into so many cultures that much of this "research" shouldn't be given any credibility.
11:57 The idea of access to resources of hers is very strange and not necessarily a fact throughout history. There’s been very successful matriarchal societies once upon a time, possibly more successful than the patriarchal societies next to them. The question is what we mean when we use the word success. Peaceful, happy societies that has less need for violence or plundering and overpowering other people to gain control of the other. The intensely capitalistic society we live in make it sound like she has point, but we could live in a world where we don’t need to work until we die with all the money or none of the money in the world. Studies show that when women handle the economy in their household, the money gets distributed more equally and creates a safer and happier home. That sounds successful to me 😊
Love this - as a 59 year old woman on HRT I would dearly love a podcast with an expert on maintaining sexual energy / desire going forward into my 60’s.
As a 35 year old woman who was on the pill from 13-21 years old then moved to Depo and hormonal IUD I do believe they were the cause of my PCOS, chronic depression and anxiety. I’m no longer on any birth control and I’m having to get used to a mind, body and energy I have never experienced. As women we need to keep sharing this information especially to the young ladies who are still developing. Thank you for sharing this podcast it’s so necessary ❤
Why did you sacrifice your libido to continue having intimate relationship with your partner? He could just as well use condoms if you felt unwell on them.
@@SnowYuzu for me it took almost 6 months to really regulate my hormones... not my period that was actually solid and very on clock but regulating everything else yeah almost 6 months
As a woman living with intense PCOS, the Pill gave me a normal life and I am so grateful for it. I was on it almost continually for 28 years. Every time the doctors tried to get me off the pill, it went very badly, very fast. Took me years to recover physically each time and I had to get high doses of hormones to get there (I was very lucky, no psychological fluctuations). Most of all, it gave me my son (on my own, I had no cycles or ovulation and for a couple of months after coming off the pill I still ovulated- I kept getting ultrasounds to find out when and my boy was the wondrous result). But that was for me: it successfully addressed my pathological profile. The Pill is a drug, it should be regarded as such. If I had zero health issues, I would be skeptical, knowing what I know. I would not mess with my hormonal state lightly. But for some women, it truly is a godsend.
@momentmal5248 oh, for me there were two magical solutions (in the sense that I never expected they would both work so fast and so well). The first is strength training and the second is eating to keep your blood sugar low. Both do the same thing: sugar affects your insulin, that is your metabolic health and that includes your hormones as well. I wish doctors knew about this when I was young, but, hey, better late than never. I don't enjoy strength training with free weights so I train daily on the rowing machine at home (form is key). Also, the elliptical with high resistance. Nutrition for low glucose is easier than I thought, I followed Jessie Inchauspe's guidelines from the Glucose Revolution and wore a glucose monitor for 8 weeks to test everything myself. I could be less naughty on the nutrition side of things, I admit but my blood tests are unrecognizable after a year. But, and j can't believe I'm saying this, I now train for pleasure. I can't not work out. The secret is find something you enjoy (I watch my silly series during) and just to show up. My doctors are happy, the change is very measurable.
Change your diet and you will get the same results just healthier. Consider keto diet or Mediterranean diet. Red raspberry leaf tea/supplement and a good food sourced women’s multivitamin. Works.
When I went off of hormonal birth control I felt like myself for the first time. I find it incredibly dangerous to give this to pubescent girls who struggle psychologically anyways. Then you add this to it and basically make it worse.
Exactly. i was put on them at 13 to help regulate my period pain. it scary for me now to think i was on this for over 15 years before i stopped it...scary to think of all what it has caused or could of.
@@chiangmaionthecheap777 I haven’t been on birth control for years and I haven’t gotten pregnant. There’s this revolutionary concept called “not having sex”. Track your fertile days and abstain when you’re fertile. Or if you get pregnant, accept this as a consequence of your actions. I’m sick of this entitled, consequence-free society.
I started questioning everything, especially advice from government health organizations after reading Health and Beauty Mastery by Julian Bannett, this book exposes so many shocking truths about the health industry.
The pill has helped me a lot, I was suffering really bad with PMDD symptoms. However everybody is different and is very important to find the right pill for your body.
There are natural alternatives. You will never find health or wellbeing in a pill. If you’re experiencing bad PMS, that’s a a sign that something is wrong. There is an imbalance somewhere in your endocrine system. But instead of investigating and fixing the root issue, all you’ve done is numb the symptoms. Like silencing a fire alarm while the fire burns on. Start following holistic practitioners and learning about hormone disruption. You may have nutritional deficiencies (most women are deficient in heme iron, for example) or you may be exposed to endocrine disrupters in your environment. But please, consider stopping the pill. It’s not worth it.
@@ohwellwhateverrwell said 💯 I suffered and still bad pms and heavy periods and it was all my hormones and deficiencies, thankfully I realized and now working on it ❤
@@ohwellwhateverrI have PMDD as well and every time I try to get help from Dr’s, gynos, etc., they’ll only offer me BC pills or SSRI’s. I’m trying to find a holistic practitioner that knows about PMDD. It’s sensitivity to normal hormonal fluctuations so even if my hormones levels are normal, I still suffer terribly. I had my hormones and blood levels tested and everything came back normal :( which makes it even harder to get help.
Hormonal birth control has been a godsend to me. It has controlled and suppressed the horrors of endometriosis for decades. I could not have held a job without it. I know we're all different, but it has never lowered my emotional capacity or libido. No weight gain or acne. I feel so much better on it. Older now and fully intending to get on HRT as soon as possible.
You don’t know if it had effects on your because you’ve been on it for so long. I guarantee you it does have effects on your emotions. It’s hormones. It’s what they do.
It helped with my ovarian cyst for a while. I lost insurance for just over a year, ended up with ovarian cancer. - cyst grew and grew and 2 types of OV cancer formed inside a 21 pound tumor. 🙃🫣
I think for you it’s because have a hormonal imbalances that is addressed by pills (lacking or too much). I have also reproductive hormonal issues but I other issues like adhd/ autism and cptsd that will be amplified by pills. Yes, I was depressed with it during and after and not just I believe I have psoriasis symptoms and it also affected my joints. I’m my joints was always inflamed
👋🏿 Hello fellow endometriosis sufferer. I’m the same as you, the pill has made life liveable for me and rebalanced my hormones. I’m tired of this not being mentioned in discussions about the pill.
The choice to stay single or a virgin for a woman is not just about the fear of getting pregnant or STDs. Getting intimate with the wrong people will have many harmful psychological and spiritual consequences. It can totally ruin your health and spiritual growth. Many women (who like to have an enlightened meaningful healthy life) intuitively realize this and decide to not have sexual relationship with others
I had horrible endometriosis and had to use the pill for 20 years to try and control it. Eventually had a hysterectomy and I am FREE from that crap now. Feel so much better off it
Well if you had a hysterectomy your estrogen production is extremely low and you'd probably have the same issues as taking the pill, for the same reason.
@@SergioAlves-y6p Nope, not if you keep the ovaries. Most hysterectomies carried out are partial and leave the ovaries so the oestrogen stays. People really don't know how the female body works, huh? Or how to spell.
Side note… the discussed copper coil IUD comes with its own issues. A big one is that it puts the body into a constant state of inflammation. This comes with a whole new set of issues.
My mother used IUD, had many discomforts and come to medical practitioner ( we live in secluded area, near forest), far from city. They refused to take it off while my mother has asked for many times. My mother take it off herself in the bathroom, with some bleeding. Many years later she used implant on her arm, and take it off to get my youngest brother.
I took out my copper IUD 4 months ago and I am so so happy. So many things I thought were normal stopped. No spotting, no smells down down, even my period became lighter. I was suffering and didn't know it.
Yeah I don't like how her book and this conversation is only focused on traditional gender roles. Not all women are on birth control for male partners either there's other reasons some women may be on it. My other issue is people call it 'the pill" there's two types combination and Progestin only and thousands of different brands so just calling out one pill without understanding the base of what pills and what her studies focused on doesn't necessarily help the audience understand what she's talking about. It's far too broad.
I guess that us what she is saying: it is not bad for everyone or anytime. But there is a lot to know about it and when you use it to be aware of changes.
@@kgal1298 Exactly. A lot of the things she is saying are through a biased lens; she has an agenda. Additionally, the studies she is mentioning are not valid to prove a point that is multifaceted and way too complex to simplify. The pill is bad for women, but she is using this to ‘prove’ her other unrelated and unproven points.
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This was a great interview. At 50min in this is what providers need to be discussing with patients about starting birth control. Shared decision making and informed consent is huge and doesn’t happen consistently. It’s a good choice for some and not for others based off of life style, other issues like PCOS, etc.
"I don't wanna give up when the libido gives up" this brought tears to my eyes cause I always thought I was just not normal. This obviously drives men off because they don't feel wanted and it also then tells me that I don't like them then cause if I did I would have libido, which is just sad. Thank you for this podcast!!
Nah he's just a super handsome, definitely not yaG (😂) beta dude who caters to a certain audience. And it works! Props to the boy for gaming the system
How long were you with him? Did you think you were still attracted to him while you were on birth control? Or you were still attracted to him, but then you weren't? Elaborate!
I read her book and it’s full of information that we women need to know first before fully signing up to the birth-control pill. I practice Fertility Awareness Method, but was still interested in leaning about the pill and its impact on my brain because I was on it for 6 months before I transitioned. Her book was a great read!!
My doctor says women that aren’t in BC are called mothers 😂 I’m only interested in research from women that are child free cos clearly it failed on the other group
I didn't feel like myself while on birth control, I had no control over my emotions. And I'm so glad there are so many women on here providing their experience whether it was good or bad. Every single person will have their own unique experience and I'm so glad more research is happening and the possible side affects are being talked about more. Thank you for the lovely episode.
By the way - is it possible somehow to automatically translate conversations like this by artificial intelligence ie. for example have this podcast in German as well? :)
I tried birth control for a couple episodes in college. I didn’t like how I felt on it. After college, I didn’t use birth control again for about 20 years. I was extremely hesitant to try it again, but it was prescribed to me for ovarian cysts. It has been very effective in preventing cysts and has been helpful for premenstrual dysphoria.
Thank you and Dr. Hill. I’m a man and thought this to be a very interesting and informative talk. I’m a single father of two teenagers and it will be very helpful as a guide my beautiful girls.
Wow, unbelievable and fascinating. I knew the Pill was making me crazy! And I stopped it very early on at 22! Today in 40s and after 2 kids, I'm still fertile and very in touch with my normal cycle!
It definitely changed who I was. I became more aggressive and agitated. While I was on the pill I thought I disliked people I actually now think are quite lovely.
I'm sure they'll manage to get banned as well as vaccines, SSRI's, gender affirming care, gastric bypass, Ozempic, tubal ligation, vasectomies, condoms, Mirena, and on and on.
I was an emotional basket case hormonally, on the pill. When menopause kicked in and the symptoms had subsided, my brain, minus roller coaster hormones, kicked in. What a relief!
The pill has been amazing for me as someone with PCOS. I don't have normal estrogen production and it helps to get me back to normal. But it's not a solution for everyone, and getting the right pill for yourself is vital. Some have hormones, others not, some in different amounts, etc.
That is my fear, attempting birth control for prolonged time for it effective and used correctly but then deal with negative side effects and losing all the progress lost.
Oh listen you guys, just because some had negative side effects as some SHOULD. doesnt mean everyone should ban it. I have been on an everyday mini pill for 12 years,I feel great as well as my body and no problem with libido and life without periods cannot be better. So c`mon, lets not generalize. You find the pill that suits you-you gonna be just fine.
Yep, my doctors always really emphasized there are different types and if one doesn't work for me, that doesn't mean I won't like another. Every body is different and that's why there are different medications for the same thing. I had no difference mentally/psychologically and physically on it(14 years) or since I've been off of it for 8 months now. It worked great for me and I would recommend it to anyone!
I feel like a really important part of the partner resource conversation is left out. Dating someone with less resources, less education, etc isn’t the issue for me or anyone I know. The issue becomes an issue when men react poorly to a woman having more skill, resources or experience than them.
They did a cute little study about how men react to women in contests. Men who lacked confidence in their own skills degrade women more. The lack of self confidence not only makes them unattractive but causes behaviors that reinforce their lack of attractiveness.
Exactly. It's not women who don't want to date down as much as men not wanting to date up, and often being terrible partners when they do. It was the norm for women to date down where I live until the 12th century, I imagine men were not losing it and try to assert dominance in other ways at that time. It has nothing to do with ~providing~ and every to do with male entitlement and poor behaviour.
I remember when I got on it the first time my drive went way down. I asked my doctor about it and his first question was, well are you attracted to your partner. I was very much at the time. It’s was the pill that changed things.
I am 43 and I have never ever used the birth control pill. I have one child. My alternatives have always been condoms and abstinence. I always know when my period is coming because I get so "worked up" days before, so I stopped actually writing down what day my period would come because my body always tells me.
This is so true! I'm 29 and I'm so in sync with my body, I know the phases I'm in without even looking at my tracking app. I don't know why we don't consider condoms as a more viable form on contraception and focus on pumping (especially young) women with hormones for years or even decades!
True. I’m also not on BC. And my body speaks to me. I know exactly when my period is coming and I have never missed a month (except when I was pregnant and breastfeeding 😅) I did take BC once for 2 months, and omg, the weight gain was extreme and it affected my self esteem. It took me a year after getting off of it, to return to my weight.
Are there any ladies like me who think that a guy who can fix things, build things, and has mastered certain trades is such a hot attribute, regardless of him having degrees or not?!? I mean the smell of fresh sawdust!! I can't believe there's not a cologne out there with that scent. If a guy is resourceful, ingenuitive, and has good character, what degree could possibly be better than that?!? (I'm speaking from the first 10 minutes of the video)
I married that guy. Hopefully you are an introvert who doesn’t like to leave the house or have a high need for new experiences. You need to be okay with rarely going anywhere on the weekends, because there is always a project being worked on. 😉
@jenpoole7291 I was married to a visionary type guy who always surprised me with what he could do! Oh, he was so hot! He was more introverted than I was. Crowds and Wal-Mart overwhelmed him, but he was born again believer, and he was learning to love people and loved doing projects with a buddy or a family or two. We were married for 14 1/2 years, had 5 beautiful kids, and sadly, he died 10 1/2 years ago. I'm sure your hubby wouldn't mind if you let him know how much you appreciated him and also invited another couple over that could help with his project and maybe have dinner and a fun discussion afterwards. Try that out once a month:)
I would just like to say that the copper iud should be researched further for adverse side effects as well. When I had it (twice over the course of my life), I was diagnosed with PCOS. Ultrasounds showed I had multiple cysts on my ovaries. Some time after my diagnosis I had the sudden urge to take the iud out. After a year of the iud being out, I had imaging done to check on my cysts. The doctors informed me I no longer had cysts on my ovaries, when the previous year I was told I had at least 18 cysts on both ovaries.
"The copper IUD doesn’t contain hormones, so it doesn’t stop ovulation. This means your ovaries are still releasing eggs every month. Sometimes, the follicle that releases the egg doesn’t shrink down afterward like it’s supposed to, which can cause a functional ovarian cyst. These cysts are usually harmless and go away on their own, but they can sometimes cause pain or other symptoms. It’s not that the copper IUD directly causes cysts, but since it allows ovulation to continue, there’s a higher chance of developing these types of cysts compared to hormonal methods that suppress ovulation."
Not only was I educated by this I found myself pausing, rewinding, using my “Google Search” and even my perspective was changed ( in a good sense ) after listening. This pod will age gracefully and both sexes should give this a listen from late teens - up their 50s .. Bravo 🙌🏾 for this episode!!
I subscribed. I've listened to MANY of your shows, but today, my 21 year old daughter sent me the link to this episode. I'm glad it's showing up in her feed! I have an education in natural health, and I've taught her what I know. It's good to see her catching on independently. ❤ Kudos to you for appealing to both 20 - and 50 year-olds.
I am happy I waited for my husband 😊. Self respect in my books. I never used the pill because of varicose veins. I only knew that's a problem because a PHARMACIST told me.
Things may change - for example, you may get into a serious relationship/marriage to a man who won't use condoms every time, and you may not want a baby a year!
This happened to me. Came off it. Had been taking it for 15 years. I met my husband throughout that period. We have always had a really good relationship. At about the three month mark (after stopping) i noticed many changes. Hair fell out in clumps (it regrew). I lost weight. Felt more confident in myself. Had more energy. BUT I wasn't attracted to my husband afterwards. I had to really work hard on myself to not leave the marriage. Took me about two years to normalise again. He's the most amazing person. I lived with a lot of guilt for a long time.
Nice talk, but you did not let her get to the most important part for women- she was going to mention a few new birth control directions researchers are working on and you interrupted her, also there was no answer to what Dr. Sarah considers the BEST birth control method today.
I’ve been on it for over 20 years. I went off it for 8 monts a few yeas ago and I felt terrible. The cramps was so bad and it felt like my life was dictaded around my cycle. Back on it and staying on it!!!!
I’m only a third through this podcast- but I spent the last few years unsuccessfully dating “down”. I didn’t have an issue with this, but the men did. They secretly resented the fact I am more educated and earned a higher income than they did, which ultimately led to parting ways.
I didn't had a regular period when I was 16-17, they gave me the pill to "fix thę problem", I drank it for 3 months, hated it, had terrible migranes, strong PMS symptoms etc., and I said to my mom that I feel terrible and I won't drink it. My period got normal by age 21-22 with out any hormonal intervention.
@@Amber4 I think this commentator's mother tongue is not English, they simply mistook the words "drink" and "take". In some languages word "drink" also used to describe taking pills, because you usually swallow it with water
I was on the pill for nearly 20 years. I had no side effects in that time. When I came off I was expecting to feel different like people say, but I didn't. If anything I miss being on the pill because my periods make me really ill and the pill stopped that. I think it can be about finding the right pill (for those who will benefit from it.) I went through trial and error and there have been some pills that made me feel awful. But the one I landed on had no issues for me.
Same here. I actually miss the pill because it made me have only 4 periods a year. Fewer periods, less cramping and pain. It was a wonderful. Maybe you are right, everyone has to find the right one for their body.
When I was 15, my brother was studying pharmacology at the university. One day, he told my mom something that stuck with me: “Never, ever let them take those pills. In the long run, it’s one of the worst things for women.” That moment shaped my perspective. I made a decision then and there-I would avoid them, focus on other forms of protection, and take responsibility for my own well-being. Looking back now, I see how right he was. We can’t underestimate what the industry is capable of. So much of it isn’t about health-it’s about profit. They need us dependent, even sick, to keep their systems running and their sales growing. We have to wake up. Start asking questions. Start taking ownership of our health and making choices that align with our intuition, not just the convenience or narratives pushed at us. True empowerment comes from awareness-and the courage to act on it.
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make any sense, because BC prevents birth of unplanned children, which means less cheap workforce in the future. That is a much bigger financial loss than the profit from celling BC.
I was on the pill for 29 years and loved them! My sex drive was great, I didn't gain weight, my mental health was good....I had no issues at all and life was good! Finally went off them in my very late 40's and my new partner turned husband had been vasectomised!
I never had any negative effects with mood, sex drive or weight with hormonal birth control. I was on it for 10 years and went off it and then had four beautiful children. That being said, both of my daughters have opted to use different birth control because they are aware of the possible risks. While I didn’t have trouble, that doesn’t mean they won’t so I let them make their own decisions.
Most clear headed thoughtful woman I have ever heard talk about evolutionary psychology and sexually dimorphic behaviors in humanity. Love and respect for you, your science, your bravery in voicing your conclusions. Thank you, new female roll model.
She is not an expert in pharmacology nor hormones. She isn't approaching this as a scientist, but as a christian. She has a religious agenda and that would be OK if she were honest about it, but she isn't. She works for a christian church (Texas Christian University).
But many women also have the opposite experience. Life without birth control can make us emotional disasters, crippling period pain, migraines, little interest in partners and sex, uncontrollable acne. For those women, birth control is a miracle.
With everything going on if you don't find a means of multiplying your money, you will wake up one day and realize that the money you thought you had, had been exhausted. Investment is a ladder to climb the financial wall.
Investing in alternate income streams should be the top priority for everyone right now. especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. stocks, gold, silver, and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment.
The side effects of birth control pills are well known, just read the leaflet, guys. No one is forcing you to take the pill, you always have a choice. The pill is ideal for some, and not ideal for others, as with many other drugs. And for many women the pill is a health and live saver.
Yeah while its useful to be aware of the drawbacks its still imporant to keep in mind how much good the pill has done for women in the past several decades. Personally I have never really used it but I still think its an amazing peice of health care that should be available to any woman who needs or wants it.
I left my ex-husband only a few months after getting off the pill. I was on the pill for 15 years, and together with my ex-husband for 12 years, so we got together while I was on the pill. I was numb to all emotions while on the pill. I thought I was just a naturally laid-back person, but once I got off the pill I realized just how much of a zombie I was because of it. I started to feel absolutely everything for the first time after getting off the pill, and simultaneously feeling absolutely nothing for my ex-husband. It only took me a couple months off the pill to see changes and now I feel like an entirely different person who finally woke up from a dream. It’s kind of scary how much the pill impacted my sense of being.
Very common occurrence. Divorce rates track HBC adoption to an uncanny degree (with a lag of about 6 months to 2 years). See the t-shirt smell experiment.
Oh my gosh, this is going to sound so corny but hearing her talk about how she had more pleasure from getting off of birth control made me tear up for her. I don't get emotional from reading and hearing things much but just the fact that she was suppressed for so long and un inspired sounds absolutely horrific and I'm just glad she was able to figure out the source of that interference. I'm not on birth control but when I was 13 a psychologist put me on zoloft and birth control and I felt totally dead. I would pretend to take my meds so my mom wouldn't get upset. I was depressed, but it was just because of the change from childhood to adolescents. So many changes. Its difficult. Glad I was able to sense the bs back then, but it gets me worried for those who aren't in tune with themselves.
for a while i didnt realize what the message of this video was, but when we got there it was great. lets continue encouraging solving the birth control problem in a better way!
This was so informative, I watched it twice !!! I’ve been on the pill for 17 years , I’m now taking going to take a break to see what changes with me . Thank you so much , I will be getting the book! X
@@rosiehoy4736I have been doing natural family planning for practically my entire 15 year marriage and we had the exact amount of children we wanted. Then my husband got a vasectomy. The pill is not the only way, despite what pharma pushes on us.
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Hi. Thank you, since you guys have stopped to curse and blaspheme I can happily watch these, subscribe and start sharing your vids to my friends and fam.
I would absolutely love it if you could have Prof. Dr. Hans-Georg Moeller on your podcast to discuss his take on morality. His message is important in these times of political polarization and deserves to be heard by more people. He offers a more nuanced perspective on the topic compared to the likes of Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris."
When referring to guys having access to more women and women only being able to create with one at a time, it’s essentially quality and quantity, with women being qualitative and the guys being quantitative. More does not mean better, quality is better than quantity and gives better outcomes in the long run.
It’s true, if a guy has resources and doesn’t put them toward that woman, the woman typically looks at him as if he has no resources. What good is a guy with resources if he isn’t using them on her, it shows he is stingy and not a good provider or protector and not good as a mate.
If a woman has had a lot of work done, she is not naturally or biologically as she presents which means her genes code for who she was not who she became which influences selection based on looks. That person had to make themselves look like what they were in competition with, to remove access from the naturally biologically beautiful woman to continue on and try to remove her. So attacks on beauty or attempting to get work done to look like the beautiful woman does biologically is a form of competition with other women and to have guys continue on with them rather than the biologically beautiful woman.
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I really appreciate all the focus on women’s health that you put into your podcast. You have the best guests and have really given so many great perspectives on human health and how woman’s health has affected us all.
Agreed!! I saw this and clicked & watched immediately
It's honestly been the best because my typical media, sports and anime, do not highlight women's thinking, so it's helped me expand who I should look at for additional research and thought! He's helping his audience very much with this
Great comment ❤👏
Hormonal birth control in particular is severely downplayed in regards to the impact it's had on society, and not always in a good way. It was probably the most impactful invention since the steam engine.
Of course, he'll cover "women's health". Women's health is the most profitable sector men have.
Honestly the way he forms Qs is just off limits! Very empathetic and carefully worded questions that get the interviewee to answer so thoroughly. As a listener I’m always so fascinated! Like I couldn’t have asked better, honestly THANK YOU ❤
I was on the pill from 14y until I was 34. I am 44 now. It took 3 to 4 years to become my normal self again. And I had to mourn the fact that for 20 years I didn’t really know myself. When I was on the pill I became harsher and edgier, without it I am softer, more feminine and it feels so much better!
This is the reason I may get off of it for a while and see what happens. I feel so disconnected from my softness like I'm on the wrong side of the glass
I have endometriosis and had irregular cycles in my late teens/early 20s. I went on the birth control pill for 5 years, and it stabilized my menstrual cycle for the following 25 years. So grateful that I was able to receive this medical care. Thank you for taking on these kinds of topics! I feel seen 💛
You could have used Tranexamic Acid too. No hormones. I used that.
@Subspace._tripmine I didn't have heavy periods. They were irregular. Different issue. The hormones were the right protocol me, for my situation.
@@Subspace._tripmine But she made her choice and did what was right for her.
@@Subspace._tripmine it's not right for everyone. I had DVT and PE so I'm not allowed to take it or any estrogen, if I take a pill it's progesterone only and there's risk too. My body overproduces estrogen so in the end I had to go through medical menopause. Don't recommend it.
@idasiek In your case it is very different. It's not just endometriosis.
My mom wouldn't let my sisters go on BC because, and I quote, "It turns you into the kind of person who makes the kind of decisions the regular you would never consider." We all thought she was being silly and overprotective. Well 20 years later and the research keeps proving my mom right.
Thanks, Mom.
Weird because I don't think I ever had that issue and I'm back on it now and working on some pretty large campaigns so if anything the decisions it made me make made me more successful if that's true.
That's curious, because my baseline libido made me see double as a teen and the pill always reduced my libido to nothing.
Well @ 56:00 she says the opposite is true if you're talking promiscuity so...
@jillbaldwin3005 and that's exactly what she says at 56:00.
Absolutely. Read my comment. Your Body is a Gift..I had to create. -I so feel for these last 3 generations. Depression..no wonder. They were taught that a relationship & sexual intimacy was not even required.
I'm a man and ofc I click this episode. Stuff like this is interesting and I'm not even primarily driven to "understand my gf" or anything, I just want to understand. I think we should always to do that and not just take interest in a few things that directly impact ourselves. That being said, all of this impacts me one way or another anyway as humanity is both men and women. Good episode! Very interesting!
Learning is only the way to keep living.
Why wouldn’t you want to be driven to “understand your gf?”
@@ToxicHorsePuckyHe said he's not **Primarily** driven to understand his girlfriend. He does care but the biggest reason seems to be curiosity or general empathy
Exactly. Why wouldn't you want to know this stuff?! Has nothing to do about being a guy or girl.
I hope you are winning at life your comment is refreshing
My experience with using estrogen birth control is that I was a much happier, more relaxed person with more interest in sex. Freedom from fear of pregnancy was amazing - and so was the regulation of my menstrual cycle and huge reduction in blood loss and pain. Endometriosis made my life a misery without the pill. The pill also reduced migraine attacks to bearable.
There's never a one-size-fits-all.
Birth control is bad for your health long term though
Carissa. - based on what?
Agree 💯
@@Fierie333 there are plenty of studies.
Agreed - is the video also about estrogen or progesterone based birthcontrol?
Really like how excited Dr. Hill is on this subject. It's like she can't wait to share the info.
I have PMDD and birth control quite literally saved my life by stabilizing my hormones. I would have unalived myself a long time ago if not, but I’m glad more research is being done on women in general. Great discussion !
Same, it makes me a sane person, though if i had known earlier, that it could help me, it would have saved me over a decade of suffering and thinking i'm a crazy person. I do appreciate the research on womens health now.
Same!!!
The pill did wonders for my PMDD for three years until it came back. The body tends to seek homeostasis. I'm glad your relief appears to be more sustained.
Then you definitely should have tried the mini pill which doesn't have estrogen, only progesterone, and that is actually the hormone we lack more during PMDD due to mass estrogen dominance because of our environment. Progesteron saved my life
I have PMDD and I'm quite certain the reason is because I took hormonal birth control for an extended period of time from adolescence to adulthood. Synthetic hormones are not the answer. They are literally just masking the issue, they are not resolving it. Glad you're feeling better but its not a long term solution.
Please bring Dr. Sarah back. Women should hear about menopause and new research developments. Thank you!
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I stopped taking birth control pill after 11 years (starting from age 19) and I was wearing a health tracker smart ring that tracked my sleep and physical activity. I was shocked to see that ALL of my metrics (HRV, respiratory rate, resting heart rate, stress, recovery, etc.) improved significantly a week after I got off the pill. I had no idea it had such a negative effect on my heart and overall wellbeing...
What an incredible episode such a needed conversation. I was also put on the pill at the age of 13 without being told any of the potential side effects. Spent my entire teen years crippled due to anxiety and the most severe depression. Came off all birth control as an adult and the difference was unbelievable, I suddenly felt like the person I was meant to be all along! Can only describe it as feeling a complete inner calm. Would never touch any form of birth control again
Condoms are birth control as well
Yeh was so annoyed that condoms were brushed aside as a viable option.
13? You were having sex at 13?
@@Malcriada115 I thought the same, that’s gross for a 13 year old child being active at that age
@@Malcriada115 people go on the pill for acne, to stop cramps, if you have pmdd, or a variety of other reasons that aren’t one being sexually active… hope that helps
I'm 48, and I've never been on "the pill. "... this discussion has very helpful in understanding for my daughters.
I’m 34 I’ve never been on birth control and now I’m grateful 🙏🏾
I'm not saying any specific claims made here are wrong but please be aware Mr Bartlett is often found promoting pseudoscience and has a profound financial interest in doing so.
@@FoobAr-p8qwhat you’re trying to do is called poisoning the well. You know that there’s plenty of studies spanning decades confirming what the doctor is saying, so to use such a tactic to discredit what can be easily verified is deceptive at best.
@FoobAr-p8q ah, pseudo science…because it doesn’t agree with Fauci?
I became very moody when I was on the pill years ago. When I came off it, I had more energy and was a much happier, calmer person.
Sadly no one in the mainstream dares ask if all this hysteria and man hating, in the modern society is largely tied to most women growing up on the pill, for a few generations now.
@@raifthemad that is the most idiotic and misogynistic thing ive read today. Congratulations Were you around hundreds of years ago for the hysteria craze? Maybe be less of an asshole and stop trying to control women's bodies.
Was it because you were also more in the mood and so getting some had a relaxing effect? Sorry to ask such a question.
@@raifthemadmost women do not take the pill. It’s about 25% in the U.K. and 12% in the US
@@Aliciae411 Is that data for all ages, or out of those that haven't gone to menopause and are old enough to be prescribed it? Also even 12% of female population being much more irritable, emotional, impulsive and repulsed by masculinity would explain far left quite adequately.
Thank You, I believed this 40 years ago and when I said it to people I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Finally Validation.
I've been off birth control for over 10 years, best decision in my opinion. Never going back!!!
There is non-hormonal birth control options. Those are best. It’s the hormone designed birth control that can potentially cause cancer in women, lower their sex drives, and also have long lasting negative effects on a woman’s natural fertility when she finally does decide she wants to have children.
@@MindYourOwn777I was briefly in birth control in my early 20 to control my cycle because it was so irregular. Doctor said it have no signs effects.
Anyways 20 years later is when I see medical professional said how horrible it is. What I am saying is you can think it is great now until the real research decide to let people know.
Same on my 7th year i am more stable and happier
My doc insists I need it due to my long periods. I am worried about it and will go off it regardless. But whats the alternative for my heavy bloodloss and abnormally long periods :/
I ditched hormone birth control two years into my marriage, 20 years ago. It was making me into a rage monster.
The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.
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I was so grateful for the pill. Much less pain and other reduced symptoms too private to discuss.
Just came off taking birth control from the age of 19 until being 25 (now I’m 26) and I felt like I went through a second puberty it was insane. But now (over a year later), I can truly say with 100% certainty, I have never felt more like myself in my whole life being off of it. SO much better. My moods are more stable, I’m not constantly hungry, I have more energy, I sleep better, I have more confidence, higher sex drive, more in touch with my feminine side and overall more happy.
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did you just come off birth control completely or did you replace it with a non-hormonal option?
This is a fascinating and important topic. It challenges us to consider the potential impact of hormonal birth control on our sense of self. It's a conversation that needs to be had.
I stopped dating a guy because he basically demanded me to get on birth control. I didn’t like that I had to make that decision for my body for him, knowing that I would never get it as a single individual. Intuitively I knew I did not want to sacrifice that for him, but physically it showed up as in me gaining weight And minor stress due to feeling the pressure of that decision. I’m so happy that I chose what’s best for me 🎉
As a man, I would never insist a partner would or should take the pill. I would put something on the end of it! You did the right thing by you.
Glad you stayed true to yourself. Did you have previous experience with birth control or instinctively knew it wasn’t for you?
Fantastic!
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Wait, you guys have to be in a relationship to get birth control?
I was on normal birth control from 13-16. Had unbelievable mood swings, depression and had no idea. Thought it was me.
Went off, never again, I’m my forties now and have had a copper IUD in for 5 years. Best decision I EVER made.
In between sets at a punk rock show in Gainesville, FL circa 2000, I met a girl at a booth passing out literature that warned me of the dangers of hormonal birth control. I had never heard of such a concern before that moment, and it set me on a path of contemplation. I am so glad to see this conversation reach beyond the limitations set by feminist politics. The risks of hormonal birth control are a very real health issue that need to be considered with an open mind and an intention to create healthier and happier people. Thank you for this conversation!
It's refreshing to hear a conversation like this in a neutral, non-emotionally, politically charged way that acknowledges the research and history behind men/women and birth control. Food for thought, for sure.
You have to be careful when looking at sociology and historical outcomes. Is it biological or neuropsychological or is it what is allowed or available. It may happen in history because that is what has been allowed. When looking at cultures that have an egalitarian structure or allow women, there is evidence of female risk takers.
Even with people having less sex younger, they are also aware of STDs that cannot be cured or can kill that were not talked about in previous generations.
@@JoanLBlack Also the author herself has been criticised for her gender essentialism so it's not like she's free of controversy. I'd also argue that there's not a lot of studies carried out on this because it's such an understudied and underfunded field.
Sorry not sorry - this is so far from neutral it's ridiculous.
If you do research through a highly skewed cultural lens, much of it becomes nonsense.
@@JoanLBlack Exactly! Cultural patterns, historically, are often shaped by trauma, not biology.
Oppression of women is so behaviourally embedded into so many cultures that much of this "research" shouldn't be given any credibility.
11:57 The idea of access to resources of hers is very strange and not necessarily a fact throughout history. There’s been very successful matriarchal societies once upon a time, possibly more successful than the patriarchal societies next to them. The question is what we mean when we use the word success. Peaceful, happy societies that has less need for violence or plundering and overpowering other people to gain control of the other. The intensely capitalistic society we live in make it sound like she has point, but we could live in a world where we don’t need to work until we die with all the money or none of the money in the world. Studies show that when women handle the economy in their household, the money gets distributed more equally and creates a safer and happier home. That sounds successful to me 😊
Love this - as a 59 year old woman on HRT I would dearly love a podcast with an expert on maintaining sexual energy / desire going forward into my 60’s.
Tbh, I think there are better resources for advice on the menopause than a thirtysomething male's one!
Check out Dr Lauren Streicher, Dr Kelly Casperson and oh so many more Dr’s with podcasts that provide excellent information on this topic!
HRT for its anti aging effects - sure. Personally though, I’d prefer my only company in bed to be my IPad and my dog.
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Thank you Dr Sarah! 36yrs from UK here, I’ve been on the pill on and off for 12 years, this has been eye opening
As a 35 year old woman who was on the pill from 13-21 years old then moved to Depo and hormonal IUD I do believe they were the cause of my PCOS, chronic depression and anxiety. I’m no longer on any birth control and I’m having to get used to a mind, body and energy I have never experienced. As women we need to keep sharing this information especially to the young ladies who are still developing. Thank you for sharing this podcast it’s so necessary ❤
this true for me. My libido & emotion numbed while on birth control for 5 years. I came off of it and got my libido back.
Why did you sacrifice your libido to continue having intimate relationship with your partner? He could just as well use condoms if you felt unwell on them.
can I ask how long it took for your emotions to come back after stopping?
same
@@SnowYuzu for me it took almost 6 months to really regulate my hormones... not my period that was actually solid and very on clock but regulating everything else yeah almost 6 months
It took me about 4months to get my usual self back. Also, it took about 3 month to get my period back.
As a woman living with intense PCOS, the Pill gave me a normal life and I am so grateful for it. I was on it almost continually for 28 years. Every time the doctors tried to get me off the pill, it went very badly, very fast. Took me years to recover physically each time and I had to get high doses of hormones to get there (I was very lucky, no psychological fluctuations). Most of all, it gave me my son (on my own, I had no cycles or ovulation and for a couple of months after coming off the pill I still ovulated- I kept getting ultrasounds to find out when and my boy was the wondrous result). But that was for me: it successfully addressed my pathological profile. The Pill is a drug, it should be regarded as such. If I had zero health issues, I would be skeptical, knowing what I know. I would not mess with my hormonal state lightly. But for some women, it truly is a godsend.
Same……I’ve been on the pill for around 30 years and it has kept the PCOS symptoms at bay. What was your solution for the menopause years?
@momentmal5248 oh, for me there were two magical solutions (in the sense that I never expected they would both work so fast and so well). The first is strength training and the second is eating to keep your blood sugar low. Both do the same thing: sugar affects your insulin, that is your metabolic health and that includes your hormones as well. I wish doctors knew about this when I was young, but, hey, better late than never. I don't enjoy strength training with free weights so I train daily on the rowing machine at home (form is key). Also, the elliptical with high resistance. Nutrition for low glucose is easier than I thought, I followed Jessie Inchauspe's guidelines from the Glucose Revolution and wore a glucose monitor for 8 weeks to test everything myself. I could be less naughty on the nutrition side of things, I admit but my blood tests are unrecognizable after a year. But, and j can't believe I'm saying this, I now train for pleasure. I can't not work out. The secret is find something you enjoy (I watch my silly series during) and just to show up. My doctors are happy, the change is very measurable.
Change your diet and you will get the same results just healthier. Consider keto diet or Mediterranean diet. Red raspberry leaf tea/supplement and a good food sourced women’s multivitamin. Works.
@@qr5vyGood for you
Agree
When I went off of hormonal birth control I felt like myself for the first time. I find it incredibly dangerous to give this to pubescent girls who struggle psychologically anyways. Then you add this to it and basically make it worse.
Exactly. i was put on them at 13 to help regulate my period pain. it scary for me now to think i was on this for over 15 years before i stopped it...scary to think of all what it has caused or could of.
Better than another unwanted pregnancy
@@chiangmaionthecheap777 I haven’t been on birth control for years and I haven’t gotten pregnant. There’s this revolutionary concept called “not having sex”. Track your fertile days and abstain when you’re fertile. Or if you get pregnant, accept this as a consequence of your actions. I’m sick of this entitled, consequence-free society.
@@CLilMR Your family/doctors failed you.
or just use condoms. Or a spiral. There are other ways of using protection then just hormones. @@ohwellwhateverr
I started questioning everything, especially advice from government health organizations after reading Health and Beauty Mastery by Julian Bannett, this book exposes so many shocking truths about the health industry.
Thanks for sharing
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Thank you both so much for this! The world needs to hear this information!
The pill has helped me a lot, I was suffering really bad with PMDD symptoms. However everybody is different and is very important to find the right pill for your body.
Same!
There are natural alternatives. You will never find health or wellbeing in a pill. If you’re experiencing bad PMS, that’s a a sign that something is wrong. There is an imbalance somewhere in your endocrine system. But instead of investigating and fixing the root issue, all you’ve done is numb the symptoms. Like silencing a fire alarm while the fire burns on.
Start following holistic practitioners and learning about hormone disruption. You may have nutritional deficiencies (most women are deficient in heme iron, for example) or you may be exposed to endocrine disrupters in your environment. But please, consider stopping the pill. It’s not worth it.
@@ohwellwhateverrwell said 💯 I suffered and still bad pms and heavy periods and it was all my hormones and deficiencies, thankfully I realized and now working on it ❤
@@ohwellwhateverrI have PMDD as well and every time I try to get help from Dr’s, gynos, etc., they’ll only offer me BC pills or SSRI’s. I’m trying to find a holistic practitioner that knows about PMDD. It’s sensitivity to normal hormonal fluctuations so even if my hormones levels are normal, I still suffer terribly. I had my hormones and blood levels tested and everything came back normal :( which makes it even harder to get help.
Ditto. And like everything in life there are pros and cons and that’s true with the birth control pill.
Hormonal birth control has been a godsend to me. It has controlled and suppressed the horrors of endometriosis for decades. I could not have held a job without it. I know we're all different, but it has never lowered my emotional capacity or libido. No weight gain or acne. I feel so much better on it. Older now and fully intending to get on HRT as soon as possible.
You don’t know if it had effects on your because you’ve been on it for so long. I guarantee you it does have effects on your emotions. It’s hormones. It’s what they do.
It helped with my ovarian cyst for a while. I lost insurance for just over a year, ended up with ovarian cancer. - cyst grew and grew and 2 types of OV cancer formed inside a 21 pound tumor. 🙃🫣
I think for you it’s because have a hormonal imbalances that is addressed by pills (lacking or too much). I have also reproductive hormonal issues but I other issues like adhd/ autism and cptsd that will be amplified by pills. Yes, I was depressed with it during and after and not just I believe I have psoriasis symptoms and it also affected my joints. I’m my joints was always inflamed
@@CherryJuliEndometriosis left untreated has long term effects too through, it causes your hormones to be unbalanced.
👋🏿 Hello fellow endometriosis sufferer. I’m the same as you, the pill has made life liveable for me and rebalanced my hormones. I’m tired of this not being mentioned in discussions about the pill.
30 min in and i LOVE her well thought out balanced and differentiated opinion… a true scientist and an excellent observer … a gift for all 🥰
The choice to stay single or a virgin for a woman is not just about the fear of getting pregnant or STDs. Getting intimate with the wrong people will have many harmful psychological and spiritual consequences. It can totally ruin your health and spiritual growth. Many women (who like to have an enlightened meaningful healthy life) intuitively realize this and decide to not have sexual relationship with others
I had horrible endometriosis and had to use the pill for 20 years to try and control it. Eventually had a hysterectomy and I am FREE from that crap now. Feel so much better off it
Well if you had a hysterectomy your estrogen production is extremely low and you'd probably have the same issues as taking the pill, for the same reason.
@@SergioAlves-y6p Nope, not if you keep the ovaries. Most hysterectomies carried out are partial and leave the ovaries so the oestrogen stays. People really don't know how the female body works, huh? Or how to spell.
Side note… the discussed copper coil IUD comes with its own issues. A big one is that it puts the body into a constant state of inflammation. This comes with a whole new set of issues.
It didnt adjust for me. It caused a utreus inflammation and i had to get a treatment for it. I m still trying to find that is good option for me .
@ Yes. This inflammation is often detrimental. It affects the entire body.
My mother used IUD, had many discomforts and come to medical practitioner ( we live in secluded area, near forest), far from city. They refused to take it off while my mother has asked for many times. My mother take it off herself in the bathroom, with some bleeding. Many years later she used implant on her arm, and take it off to get my youngest brother.
Not to say heavy bleedings during menstruations more diseases etc
I took out my copper IUD 4 months ago and I am so so happy.
So many things I thought were normal stopped.
No spotting, no smells down down, even my period became lighter.
I was suffering and didn't know it.
I am using a birth control for 20 years and they helped me a lot.
Yeah I don't like how her book and this conversation is only focused on traditional gender roles. Not all women are on birth control for male partners either there's other reasons some women may be on it. My other issue is people call it 'the pill" there's two types combination and Progestin only and thousands of different brands so just calling out one pill without understanding the base of what pills and what her studies focused on doesn't necessarily help the audience understand what she's talking about. It's far too broad.
@@kgal1298thanks for your comment i won’t waste my time watching the video.
I guess that us what she is saying: it is not bad for everyone or anytime. But there is a lot to know about it and when you use it to be aware of changes.
Do you have any children ?
@@kgal1298 Exactly. A lot of the things she is saying are through a biased lens; she has an agenda. Additionally, the studies she is mentioning are not valid to prove a point that is multifaceted and way too complex to simplify. The pill is bad for women, but she is using this to ‘prove’ her other unrelated and unproven points.
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This was a great interview. At 50min in this is what providers need to be discussing with patients about starting birth control. Shared decision making and informed consent is huge and doesn’t happen consistently. It’s a good choice for some and not for others based off of life style, other issues like PCOS, etc.
"I don't wanna give up when the libido gives up" this brought tears to my eyes cause I always thought I was just not normal. This obviously drives men off because they don't feel wanted and it also then tells me that I don't like them then cause if I did I would have libido, which is just sad. Thank you for this podcast!!
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@@TheDiaryOfACEO Please stop getting non medical doctors on to talk about medicine and spread misinformation. Thanks!
Nah he's just a super handsome, definitely not yaG (😂) beta dude who caters to a certain audience. And it works! Props to the boy for gaming the system
@@TheDiaryOfACEOA grifter nothing more nothing less
Can confirm! When I finally began to come off birth control I realized I had zero attraction to the guy I was with from high school - college.
That's sad for him
How did you break up with him?
How long were you with him? Did you think you were still attracted to him while you were on birth control? Or you were still attracted to him, but then you weren't? Elaborate!
He didn't deserve your puh, you go girl!🎉❤
@@Coorweiser shorty mad
Never used the pill and never will. Health is my priority ♥️
Same! 31 year old female
What do you use? Have you ever had an abortion?
@@tangho what do you use?
@@SWOTHDRA never . Celibate
Is this a joke? Has nobody heard of condoms??
I read her book and it’s full of information that we women need to know first before fully signing up to the birth-control pill. I practice Fertility Awareness Method, but was still interested in leaning about the pill and its impact on my brain because I was on it for 6 months before I transitioned. Her book was a great read!!
My doctor says women that aren’t in BC are called mothers 😂 I’m only interested in research from women that are child free cos clearly it failed on the other group
I didn't feel like myself while on birth control, I had no control over my emotions. And I'm so glad there are so many women on here providing their experience whether it was good or bad. Every single person will have their own unique experience and I'm so glad more research is happening and the possible side affects are being talked about more. Thank you for the lovely episode.
You can't control your emotions or thoughts anyways, you can only control your actions.
Brilliant podcast... I'm interested in everything you've brought to the attention of everyone...
I'm about 45 minutes into the talk and I cannot stop nodding my head and saying "YES! She hits the nail on the head!" Great talk
By the way - is it possible somehow to automatically translate conversations like this by artificial intelligence ie. for example have this podcast in German as well? :)
I tried birth control for a couple episodes in college. I didn’t like how I felt on it. After college, I didn’t use birth control again for about 20 years. I was extremely hesitant to try it again, but it was prescribed to me for ovarian cysts. It has been very effective in preventing cysts and has been helpful for premenstrual dysphoria.
Thank you and Dr. Hill. I’m a man and thought this to be a very interesting and informative talk. I’m a single father of two teenagers and it will be very helpful as a guide my beautiful girls.
Wow, unbelievable and fascinating. I knew the Pill was making me crazy! And I stopped it very early on at 22! Today in 40s and after 2 kids, I'm still fertile and very in touch with my normal cycle!
It definitely changed who I was. I became more aggressive and agitated. While I was on the pill I thought I disliked people I actually now think are quite lovely.
Whoever edits the intro is a flippin genius! 🤍
I'm sure they'll manage to get banned as well as vaccines, SSRI's, gender affirming care, gastric bypass, Ozempic, tubal ligation, vasectomies, condoms, Mirena, and on and on.
I agree. It's hard to watch long videos but that intro got me and the video lived up to the billing.
Great info. Specially the episode about groundbreaking cancer expert.
You definitely got my subscription.
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@@nirradical this is wild😂😂
@@sandienk I mean odds are good right? 😂🤣
I was an emotional basket case hormonally, on the pill. When menopause kicked in and the symptoms had subsided, my brain, minus roller coaster hormones, kicked in. What a relief!
This science just endorses all things I heard "old people " say about men, women and their drive in relationships. Thanks for all this hard work.
The pill has been amazing for me as someone with PCOS. I don't have normal estrogen production and it helps to get me back to normal. But it's not a solution for everyone, and getting the right pill for yourself is vital. Some have hormones, others not, some in different amounts, etc.
Same here! The pill helped me both physically and mentally. I will not stop taking it.
The pill has helped me with PMDD and without it I was really anxious and had panic attacks. It really stabilized my hormones
Every birth pill contains hormones.
@@CherryJuli yes I don’t know why said some don’t
That is my fear, attempting birth control for prolonged time for it effective and used correctly but then deal with negative side effects and losing all the progress lost.
My experience coming on and off it multiple times over the past 20 years is that I feel exactly the same on and off it.
Oh listen you guys, just because some had negative side effects as some SHOULD. doesnt mean everyone should ban it. I have been on an everyday mini pill for 12 years,I feel great as well as my body and no problem with libido and life without periods cannot be better. So c`mon, lets not generalize. You find the pill that suits you-you gonna be just fine.
Yep, my doctors always really emphasized there are different types and if one doesn't work for me, that doesn't mean I won't like another. Every body is different and that's why there are different medications for the same thing. I had no difference mentally/psychologically and physically on it(14 years) or since I've been off of it for 8 months now. It worked great for me and I would recommend it to anyone!
Great interview. She has a ton of knowledge and phenomenal oratory skills. So clear, structured and easy to follow. Wow…wow . Loved it❤
Loved her. She was so eloquent. Great interview ❤
I feel like a really important part of the partner resource conversation is left out. Dating someone with less resources, less education, etc isn’t the issue for me or anyone I know. The issue becomes an issue when men react poorly to a woman having more skill, resources or experience than them.
They did a cute little study about how men react to women in contests.
Men who lacked confidence in their own skills degrade women more.
The lack of self confidence not only makes them unattractive but causes behaviors that reinforce their lack of attractiveness.
Exactly. It's not women who don't want to date down as much as men not wanting to date up, and often being terrible partners when they do. It was the norm for women to date down where I live until the 12th century, I imagine men were not losing it and try to assert dominance in other ways at that time. It has nothing to do with ~providing~ and every to do with male entitlement and poor behaviour.
I remember when I got on it the first time my drive went way down. I asked my doctor about it and his first question was, well are you attracted to your partner. I was very much at the time. It’s was the pill that changed things.
I am 43 and I have never ever used the birth control pill. I have one child. My alternatives have always been condoms and abstinence. I always know when my period is coming because I get so "worked up" days before, so I stopped actually writing down what day my period would come because my body always tells me.
If you have a man who always always uses condoms and applies them properly - bully for you!
Sounds like me to the tee.
And me too
This is so true! I'm 29 and I'm so in sync with my body, I know the phases I'm in without even looking at my tracking app. I don't know why we don't consider condoms as a more viable form on contraception and focus on pumping (especially young) women with hormones for years or even decades!
True. I’m also not on BC. And my body speaks to me. I know exactly when my period is coming and I have never missed a month (except when I was pregnant and breastfeeding 😅)
I did take BC once for 2 months, and omg, the weight gain was extreme and it affected my self esteem. It took me a year after getting off of it, to return to my weight.
Thank you so much for covering women's issues and inviting women professionals. Subscribed❤
Amazing episode!!
For everyone equally, not just ladies.
Thank you Steven!
Are there any ladies like me who think that a guy who can fix things, build things, and has mastered certain trades is such a hot attribute, regardless of him having degrees or not?!? I mean the smell of fresh sawdust!! I can't believe there's not a cologne out there with that scent. If a guy is resourceful, ingenuitive, and has good character, what degree could possibly be better than that?!?
(I'm speaking from the first 10 minutes of the video)
I married that guy. Hopefully you are an introvert who doesn’t like to leave the house or have a high need for new experiences.
You need to be okay with rarely going anywhere on the weekends, because there is always a project being worked on. 😉
Yes, but over and over that guy is too insecure to date me because I have a career and decent income of my own.
@jenpoole7291 I was married to a visionary type guy who always surprised me with what he could do! Oh, he was so hot! He was more introverted than I was. Crowds and Wal-Mart overwhelmed him, but he was born again believer, and he was learning to love people and loved doing projects with a buddy or a family or two. We were married for 14 1/2 years, had 5 beautiful kids, and sadly, he died 10 1/2 years ago. I'm sure your hubby wouldn't mind if you let him know how much you appreciated him and also invited another couple over that could help with his project and maybe have dinner and a fun discussion afterwards. Try that out once a month:)
@@trucuriousitylmao no? A lot of trades pay really well. You just keep running into man-children
@@trucuriousityor you are just acting too bossy
I would just like to say that the copper iud should be researched further for adverse side effects as well. When I had it (twice over the course of my life), I was diagnosed with PCOS. Ultrasounds showed I had multiple cysts on my ovaries.
Some time after my diagnosis I had the sudden urge to take the iud out. After a year of the iud being out, I had imaging done to check on my cysts. The doctors informed me I no longer had cysts on my ovaries, when the previous year I was told I had at least 18 cysts on both ovaries.
"The copper IUD doesn’t contain hormones, so it doesn’t stop ovulation. This means your ovaries are still releasing eggs every month. Sometimes, the follicle that releases the egg doesn’t shrink down afterward like it’s supposed to, which can cause a functional ovarian cyst. These cysts are usually harmless and go away on their own, but they can sometimes cause pain or other symptoms. It’s not that the copper IUD directly causes cysts, but since it allows ovulation to continue, there’s a higher chance of developing these types of cysts compared to hormonal methods that suppress ovulation."
Fantastic guest, and a much needed conversation. I really enjoyed how she touches on loaded topics while remaining scientific and unbiased.
Not only was I educated by this I found myself pausing, rewinding, using my “Google Search” and even my perspective was changed ( in a good sense ) after listening. This pod will age gracefully and both sexes should give this a listen from late teens - up their 50s .. Bravo 🙌🏾 for this episode!!
I subscribed. I've listened to MANY of your shows, but today, my 21 year old daughter sent me the link to this episode. I'm glad it's showing up in her feed!
I have an education in natural health, and I've taught her what I know. It's good to see her catching on independently. ❤
Kudos to you for appealing to both 20 - and 50 year-olds.
Never been on birth control I am 27 yo and I been celibate.
That's amazing. You'll never regret looking after your health in your youth ❤
Wow❤
Celibate by choice? Not trying to be insulting I’m genuinely curious.
I am happy I waited for my husband 😊. Self respect in my books. I never used the pill because of varicose veins. I only knew that's a problem because a PHARMACIST told me.
Things may change - for example, you may get into a serious relationship/marriage to
a man who won't use condoms every time, and you may not want a baby a year!
This happened to me. Came off it. Had been taking it for 15 years. I met my husband throughout that period. We have always had a really good relationship. At about the three month mark (after stopping) i noticed many changes. Hair fell out in clumps (it regrew). I lost weight. Felt more confident in myself. Had more energy. BUT I wasn't attracted to my husband afterwards. I had to really work hard on myself to not leave the marriage. Took me about two years to normalise again. He's the most amazing person. I lived with a lot of guilt for a long time.
Nice talk, but you did not let her get to the most important part for women- she was going to mention a few new birth control directions researchers are working on and you interrupted her, also there was no answer to what Dr. Sarah considers the BEST birth control method today.
Was waiting for that part too, want to know the alternatives
She mentioned a copper IUD.
Love this woman: she gives us a chance of actually getting closer to informed decision making!
Thank you Dr. Sarah Hill and DOAC for giving people this much needed information! Happy to have a men paying attention too. So smart!❤
I’ve been on it for over 20 years. I went off it for 8 monts a few yeas ago and I felt terrible. The cramps was so bad and it felt like my life was dictaded around my cycle. Back on it and staying on it!!!!
I’m only a third through this podcast- but I spent the last few years unsuccessfully dating “down”. I didn’t have an issue with this, but the men did. They secretly resented the fact I am more educated and earned a higher income than they did, which ultimately led to parting ways.
Noooo, men don't care about a woman's income or degrees. What men dislikrle is any attitude that comes with it. That's very obvious from your text.
I didn't had a regular period when I was 16-17, they gave me the pill to "fix thę problem", I drank it for 3 months, hated it, had terrible migranes, strong PMS symptoms etc., and I said to my mom that I feel terrible and I won't drink it. My period got normal by age 21-22 with out any hormonal intervention.
Everybody is different, but the main stream medicine treats us like we all have the same body.
Birth control is not liquid or a drink. You got something else. I wonder what she gave you .....
@@Amber4 I think this commentator's mother tongue is not English, they simply mistook the words "drink" and "take". In some languages word "drink" also used to describe taking pills, because you usually swallow it with water
@@Amber4The OP isn't a native English speaker
Thanks!
Fascinating conversation, particularly as it came from a female scientist's point of view. Every day is a learning one!
I was on the pill for nearly 20 years. I had no side effects in that time. When I came off I was expecting to feel different like people say, but I didn't. If anything I miss being on the pill because my periods make me really ill and the pill stopped that. I think it can be about finding the right pill (for those who will benefit from it.) I went through trial and error and there have been some pills that made me feel awful. But the one I landed on had no issues for me.
Same here. I actually miss the pill because it made me have only 4 periods a year. Fewer periods, less cramping and pain. It was a wonderful. Maybe you are right, everyone has to find the right one for their body.
Same here - had horrific periods. The pill and later the Mirena stopped that.
Thank you for sharing a positive story.
Which pill did you take for 20years
@@ras8124 its post truth era
When I was 15, my brother was studying pharmacology at the university. One day, he told my mom something that stuck with me: “Never, ever let them take those pills. In the long run, it’s one of the worst things for women.” That moment shaped my perspective. I made a decision then and there-I would avoid them, focus on other forms of protection, and take responsibility for my own well-being.
Looking back now, I see how right he was. We can’t underestimate what the industry is capable of. So much of it isn’t about health-it’s about profit. They need us dependent, even sick, to keep their systems running and their sales growing.
We have to wake up. Start asking questions. Start taking ownership of our health and making choices that align with our intuition, not just the convenience or narratives pushed at us. True empowerment comes from awareness-and the courage to act on it.
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make any sense, because BC prevents birth of unplanned children, which means less cheap workforce in the future. That is a much bigger financial loss than the profit from celling BC.
I was on the pill for 29 years and loved them! My sex drive was great, I didn't gain weight, my mental health was good....I had no issues at all and life was good! Finally went off them in my very late 40's and my new partner turned husband had been vasectomised!
I never had any negative effects with mood, sex drive or weight with hormonal birth control. I was on it for 10 years and went off it and then had four beautiful children. That being said, both of my daughters have opted to use different birth control because they are aware of the possible risks. While I didn’t have trouble, that doesn’t mean they won’t so I let them make their own decisions.
Most clear headed thoughtful woman I have ever heard talk about evolutionary psychology and sexually dimorphic behaviors in humanity. Love and respect for you, your science, your bravery in voicing your conclusions. Thank you, new female roll model.
This lady is fantastic. This is a great interview.
She is not an expert in pharmacology nor hormones. She isn't approaching this as a scientist, but as a christian. She has a religious agenda and that would be OK if she were honest about it, but she isn't. She works for a christian church (Texas Christian University).
But many women also have the opposite experience. Life without birth control can make us emotional disasters, crippling period pain, migraines, little interest in partners and sex, uncontrollable acne. For those women, birth control is a miracle.
May have a lot to do with the food those women are eating.
exactly
With everything going on if you don't find a means of multiplying your money, you will wake up one day and realize that the money you thought you had, had been exhausted. Investment is a ladder to climb the financial wall.
You are absolutely right 💯
Investing in alternate income streams should be the top priority for everyone right now. especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. stocks, gold, silver, and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment.
Am looking for something to venture into on a short term basis, I really need to create an alternate source of income, what do you think I should do?
Cryptocurrency/stock investment, but you will need a professional guide on that.
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Exellent. Sarah's legacy statement.... spot on. I would love to be in a position where I am also able to help with this legacy x Thank you Steven
This episode is fascinating! Please keep educating people with science-based evidence. This is so necessary! THANK YOU!
The side effects of birth control pills are well known, just read the leaflet, guys. No one is forcing you to take the pill, you always have a choice. The pill is ideal for some, and not ideal for others, as with many other drugs. And for many women the pill is a health and live saver.
Yeah while its useful to be aware of the drawbacks its still imporant to keep in mind how much good the pill has done for women in the past several decades. Personally I have never really used it but I still think its an amazing peice of health care that should be available to any woman who needs or wants it.
@Klute1977 Couldn’t agree more.
I left my ex-husband only a few months after getting off the pill. I was on the pill for 15 years, and together with my ex-husband for 12 years, so we got together while I was on the pill.
I was numb to all emotions while on the pill. I thought I was just a naturally laid-back person, but once I got off the pill I realized just how much of a zombie I was because of it. I started to feel absolutely everything for the first time after getting off the pill, and simultaneously feeling absolutely nothing for my ex-husband. It only took me a couple months off the pill to see changes and now I feel like an entirely different person who finally woke up from a dream. It’s kind of scary how much the pill impacted my sense of being.
Very common occurrence. Divorce rates track HBC adoption to an uncanny degree (with a lag of about 6 months to 2 years). See the t-shirt smell experiment.
damnnnn your actually a horrible person. Maybe wait longer than a couple months to reignite the flame geezus women am I rite guys?
@@funkthatHaha! Maybe you should know more about an internet stranger’s relationship before commenting on it and their morality?
Oh my gosh, this is going to sound so corny but hearing her talk about how she had more pleasure from getting off of birth control made me tear up for her. I don't get emotional from reading and hearing things much but just the fact that she was suppressed for so long and un inspired sounds absolutely horrific and I'm just glad she was able to figure out the source of that interference.
I'm not on birth control but when I was 13 a psychologist put me on zoloft and birth control and I felt totally dead. I would pretend to take my meds so my mom wouldn't get upset. I was depressed, but it was just because of the change from childhood to adolescents. So many changes. Its difficult. Glad I was able to sense the bs back then, but it gets me worried for those who aren't in tune with themselves.
for a while i didnt realize what the message of this video was, but when we got there it was great. lets continue encouraging solving the birth control problem in a better way!
This was so informative, I watched it twice !!! I’ve been on the pill for 17 years , I’m now taking going to take a break to see what changes with me . Thank you so much , I will be getting the book! X
I'm almost 50 and so glad I never used any contraception whatsoever.
Same except 48 - have you added hrt ?
Did you have lots of kids or no sex?
@@rosiehoy4736😂
Lol how many kids do you have ?
@@rosiehoy4736I have been doing natural family planning for practically my entire 15 year marriage and we had the exact amount of children we wanted. Then my husband got a vasectomy. The pill is not the only way, despite what pharma pushes on us.