J. Krishnamurti - Madras 1982 - Seminar 2 - Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear
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- Madras (Chennai) 1982 - Seminar 2 - Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear
Summary:
When a human being is the past, the present and the future, he is time bound, the result of all human endeavour.
As ordinary human beings can we not radically change?
I am the ordinary man caught in a wheel. What am I to do or not do?
What is the mirror in which I can see my reactions, thoughts and misery?
Do we ever use the fullness of our senses?
There is no difference between me and fear. I am fear.
Desire is when thought takes charge of sensation and creates an image.
To be so alert that thought doesn’t interfere with sensation.
Since I am the time-maker, I am bound to time.
Time and thought are not different.
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Finally, I got it. Truth is a pathless land. Any amount of talks is mere entertainment. Only observe. And from that observation there is right action. Period.
Wow KrishnaJ's simple reply at the end to almost 2 hours of semantics is so indicative of how enlightened, truthful or aware of a being he is!! love it
im amazed at all these people how they had this wisdom in their presence and they wouldnt let him talk
Attention is the requirement 🙏
Your fullest attention for any thing, which is in front of you.
Will solve all your problems ❤️
“I won’t tell him all this”. “What will you do?” “Hold his hand”... 1:51:45-1:52:42 🙏🏿
wow
What an enlightened man... and what patience. He waited for 1 hour 32 minutes... Let all of them play like children and then he cuts through the faf like hot knife cuts the butter.
Now we are at this very instance at the point of total destruction or great awareness, rather Awakening. All our lives are world, us, has been involved in selfish self destruction. The whole import of modern life is meaningless aquasittion boiling our life nature itself. The Atomic bomb was no accident .Conciousness is conflict. Thought is aggressive.
Shocked and amazed
The way Krishnamurti just evicerates people's logic and concepts just by attacking their question are my favorite and are personally when i think the most enlightening things are said
I have flashes as K is talking that for an instant there is existence with I non existent Really so in fact but habit is so strong it keeps returning All the same I must love continuing listening to K to the end of time and with no regret and yet with the sure hope that the ground is going to open any moment The door must open This is not mere wishful thinking In a way the miracle has already taken birth Merely to think of K fills my whole being with inexhaustible wonder precious beyond words to say the least
This is the most hilarious video of Krishnamurti I have Seen, I absolutly love it!😅😉
I do understand now why K said "thought can not solve anything"
You've answered your question....
Thought is past. Fact is present. They don't meet.
Gracias por subir este material 🙏
DESTINY
Do you wake up each morning, look in the mirror just like me
We’re another day older, do we like who we see
Are we anywhere near where we thought we would be
Destiny Destiny
Looking back upon my past, illusion led my way
Pondering who I amuz it’s another day.
I couldn’t care bout what I didn’t know, that today I see
I’m finally looking clearly, into , c the eyes of destiny
The winds of fate may blow you
Where you don’t wanna be
Sometimes you don’t have a choice
In the arms of destiny
So wrap your arms around her
And hang on for the ride
For your destiny is in your soul
Your destiny’s inside
My personal feeling is that there is a primordial fear, a fear of death, of non being. The deer running for its life from the predator obviously also experiences fear which hardly can be ascribed to "desire, time and thought"
Can't understand anything this philosopher in glasses says. Lot of words with no meaning. But I find it stunning how we cant stop trying to use limited to see unlimited
Saying that the ego is not really who we are is a basic tenet of most Eastern philosophy/spirituality. And realizing that there is something beyond our feelings that is not affected by our feelings is another. It might be very difficult to put into practise but is it so difficult to understand?
Why are they all going around the Mulberry bush? It's right in front of them! 😁Thanks.
I would hug him, comfort him. Then, listen. If he has specific questions we then could go deeply into the root of fear: conflict created by our habit to escape from what is, refusal to live a loving life, in all aspects. I.e., a life where conflict is not maintained, as we have inner order and do not change what is in what should be.
Obviously you are a good pupil, repeating word for word the talks of thé speaker😉
Are there more seminars or discussions where Ramachandra Gandhi was present as a participant? Thank You. @KFoundation
This is the only one that we know of.
i think he trying to hit the real core of the issue as he always..to get his point we really need to be attentive
One have to have a child-like attitude to comprehend JK. Ego, personality, past knowledge etc are the blocking factors. One cannot think, which is time when listening JK.
Such a silly group, they were all over themselves trying to sound smarter than the other, I can’t judge them though, they mentioned that they were invited to “discuss” so they had to display their “intelligence”.
Krishnaji, such patience. 🙏🏼
I found the guy with the glasses particularly funny though...😝
@@victorcilli8683 Advaita is very funny, Ramana Maharshi specially. But good that you have found the right answer with Krishnamurti. Such a nice feeling knowing the truth, right sir?
You're kidding ? He had the time of his life!😂🤣
Hold his hand ❤
Finalmente achei o Sr.Alain Naude
Honesty
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a lot of time would have been saved and utilised in a better way if Ramachandra Gandhi was not involved in the discussion
50 min ❤️
🙏🏻
He is talking about the shadow work and it’s needed to nurture it all your life.
It is a part of you and it made you but we always supress it.
It is a long road basically all your life,the moment you don’t care anymore for it it comes back as a fear or any other type that you don’t like to see whether you will acknowledge it or no.
This is repeated cycle through your existence
Do What Sir ??😂😅😏
who are the participants?
J. Krishnamurti, E. W. Adhikaram, Radha Burnier, Pupul Jayakar, Nandini Mehta, G. Narayan, Achyut Patwardhan, Sunanda Patwardhan, Rupert Sheldrake, H.N. Singh, K.K. Singh, E.C. George Sudarshan, P.K. Sundaram
@@KFoundation who is RG(sitting beside rupert sheldrake) as mentioned in captions?
@@KFoundation Thank you. Please put it in practice to give all participants' name in every video. To all you beautiful team members.... you're all doing historic work....cheers
OK... i m telling this. I m an Indian. Sometimes I wonder why india is not n the place it deserves....then I see such ppl like in this video. The world benefits from intelligent people even from ordinary people but never from the intellectual ppl. These intellectuals fail because they are not sincere to the context but rather on just showing that who is more intelligent. Their fragile egos got the worst in them. Afterall, they are afraid of the most intelligent man in the room. K was really gng to go with something useful. But that arrogant jerk Professor always interrupted wo respect. But he was rudely shutting ppl down if others interrupted him. The others were also like him but may be to a lesser degree. K is always classy. He never got angry & gave these words, "All these are words, darlings". He might have felt sorry fr the intellectual kids, wished good for mankind.
All playing with word but k get back them to point
The one guy from Rama’s school and the other from K school.
Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear
1:29:25 aku yg lain selain ketakutan..kesombongan, kesepian, keserakahan...entitas superior...itu semua
1:37:00 pikiran mengambil sensasi dan menciptakan gambar...awal dari keinginan yg menyebabkan takut
melihat secara brutal its me
So this insight has made you completely free of any kind of fear? Cause if not it's just words.
I believe the brain is equipped with primitive self preservation sections but fear can be endured when you know the "observer and observed' it is only thought and know this will pass it's impermanent don't react shift er in to neutral too many people are killing each other out of fear! Yes of preserving the "ego"
You believe ?... Well that probably IS the problem 😏
The gentleman in spectacles 'categorical imperative.....' ; who is he ? Through him one can see how much damage the English language has done......to man's consciousness !
O'K he's intelligent; only that - language / words get in the way of things.
I forwarded his talks 😂
I AM not given the spirit of fear and perfect LOVE cast out fear for THE LOVE of GOD no other sacrifice is needed
Dommage que Krishnamurti parle si peu
😂🤣
K asks for water and they give him a ham sandwich....😮
Are these ppl for real? This isn't staged is it? Lol...😮
He was really surrounded by sophisticated idiots, they were so full of complex words and wouldn't shut up. They were not simple. The poor man died thinking nobody understood him because all he saw were these intellectual bots repeating words over and over again.
Português, please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
There are over 260 full-length videos available with Portuguese subtitles: th-cam.com/play/PL1n30s-LKus49uv84X-iX5Tr8gHJpwlvn.html
This all gurus philosophers have to much knowledge they talk to much is even boring hear them It's just a show of who has the biggest ego and jiddu was only finally observing them . Letting them be .
1:35:56
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