AMPLITUBE 5.5 & TONEX | A Match Made In Heaven?!?! | Here Is How They Work Together!
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After receiving MANY questions about how Tonex can be used within Amplitube 5, I figured I would do a video showcasing how easily this can be done. I really hope you enjoy the video and find it helpful!
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0:00 - Introduction
1:22 - Importing Presets Into Tonex
4:19 - Working In Amplitube 5
20:35 - Conclusion
As always, thanks so much for watching...
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I'm actually downloading Amplitude 5 MAX at this moment. The (early) Black Friday special was just $100 bucks. Crazy cheap considering what the regular price actually is.
I also got it at the same time! I am so happy that i got it on sale because i love it
It's only been days but I've been waiting for more ToneX videos from you after each one posts. Thanks for this.
This is the most helpful video for the tonex system. THANK YOU. Your videos are better than any of the product manuals.
Great job! This video was easy to follow, clear, and no fluff. It quickly brought me up to speed on the apps without spending hours on TH-cam and manuals.
With the ToneX pedal out, if IK Multimedia would release a stomp box that allowed Amplitube integration, from a cost and practical standpoint it would take over AxeFX. With ToneX and Amplitube models and Amplitube’s effects it would easily rival AxeFX.
Many thanks for this. It actually answered some key questions.
Thank you, Jason, for EVERYTHING..... IK Multimedia owes you some commission, my good man!! 😎
This is a really excellent & extremely helpful video; thank you!
I had no idea about the cabs, thanks for showing that as it was a frustration being stuck with the ToneX cab. The integration in Amplitube 5 makes it wort getting at least the free version of ToneX for sure!
It definitely took me a bit to get my head around presets and imports/exports - especially from within Amplitube. Also, using VIR on a Tonex profile I think could use a little UI tweaking to make it more intuitive and apparent as to what object you're actually tweaking.
Just ordered an Axe I/O bundled with Amplitube5 Max and Tonex Max. This video is a great resource I will definitely be coming back to when I get things set up! Thank you! Also excited that they have already updated Amplitube5 so that a Tonex pedal capture can be put in as a separate pedal block now!
Very helpful. Thank you!!
great video, thanks! Answered quite a few questions I had re "how can I..." (sadly, a couple were "you can't, yet", like importing Tonex stomp models independently of an amp model). Much appreciated! Oh, and tried out the import presets info with your Revv models. Nice! 🚀
So much time invested in building the house... can wait to "live" in it!
You literally saved this plugin for me !!! I was really struggling to connect the dots before watching your video. I hope to see some updates to the GUI with like + button and a better integration. But it's very promising so far.
Thanks for this!
Thank God there are guys like you who really understand how all this software interconnects. I would think that the connection between tonex and amplitube, they will allow Amplitube 5.5 to download into that new tonex pedal, and or since so many fellows are gripeing for an fx loop and stereo capabilities, that Tonex will do a Tonex PRO pedal with those changes. I just hope all the stuff integrates together with minimum issues. And I thought that my Tonelab VOX se was a great piece of kit. The envelope with technology is and has exploded. Oh, and your Captured stuff is really super, And the Captures on this video, are really stellar.
Thanks Jason!
Thanks for this. Very helpful. I'm hoping they do an update soon to make the presets accessible within tonex whilst using amplitube. It seems like a bit of an oversight.
Thank you so much for this very comprehensive video. I’m just keeping my eye on Tonex right now. I have Amplitube 5 Max, A ton of Neural, Nembrini, Mercuriall, etc. plug-ins. That’s enough for me now. But I’m sure I will dive into this at some point. My mind just can’t handle anymore right now, LOL!!
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Thank You for this video....ToneX is a game changer
I've been playing guitar for 40 years. When I play at home I have been using Amplitube 4, Guitar Rig 5 and BIAS FX for years. I would say Amplitube 4 is my main amp model I go to. I find it easy to get the tones I need in a short time. I play everything from hardrock (lots of 80's) blues to rock to funk, Metallica, music from the 50's and 60's and a lot more. I sometimes borrow a friends Line 6 Helix which I also like. I plan to buy a POD GO soon. A friend have amplitube 5. I have been spending a lot of time with Amplitube 5 but I just don't like it as much as Amplitube 4. Sure I can get some good sounds from it but it has a sound to it that reminds me of BIAS FX 2. I can't explain it in words but I just don't like it. Sounds very fake. I was very excited about Tone X. From the demos I've heard before it was released I was expecting something really special. I downloaded the demo and I am sorry to say I am disappointed. For me it is very important how long it takes for me to get the tone I want but also how it feels under my fingers. Take the marshall amps for example. Spent quite a few hours with the demo but no. I just don't hear or feel anything that I can't get from Amplitube 4. I was really hoping for something special. I was also excited about the Bogner model but no. I did like a few things. That Dumble preset Joes Favorite was pretty cool but nothing I can't get close to from the vibroverb custom in Amplitube 4. Being an old guy that grew up with Van Halen I always want a good Van Halen tone. I also know how to get it pretty easily with other amp models and also Amplitube 4. I hear nothing in Tone X that can get me there. What I find weird with IK Multimedia is that when they started many many years ago they were on the right track with the Van Halen sound. Their very first amplitube had some really good Van Halen tones even though the quality won't hold up to todays standards but they had a lot of things right that they lost later on. With the Wampler Pinnacle in Amplitube 4 I can get close enough though. To sum it up. The Marshall models in Tone X is no different to me then the ones i Amplitube 5. Another problem is if I want to buy Tone X I also have to buy for Amplitube 5 to be able to add overdrives and do a lot of other things. I rather spend those money on a POD GO.
I am a AT4 guy also. I only got AT5 for the Diezel VH4. I started off with it being confused because they changed user interface. A lot of things changed and yes it definitely looks like many of the others, BIAS, TH-U, etc. It took me a few hours to figure it out. There is a relearning curve involved when going from 4 to 5. 5 will get it done. In regards to ToneX.......it appears to be marketed specifically for those who have real gear and the Kemler/AxeFx people. From what I have seen so far it gives a producer the ability to capture theircreal gear or the band they are recording for easy recall eithout having to setup mics, cabs, heads, etc. For a home producer who is using just an interface, monitors and a PC/MAC......this is not going to be a game changer for us. With time perhaps it could be using the uploaded user presets. It does look like people are going to charge money for their rare amp presets though. Lastly it appears once the preset is created there us no using it like a normal AT5 amp where you can swap pedals, adjust the knobs, change the cab, etc.
So much of this GUI is counterintuitive and sloppy, and there are NO instruction vids or manuals from IK, so we have to rely on vids like yours to learn this software. Thanks.
Agree wholeheartedly. Could not figure out how to add pedals in front of the amps. The plugin itself is great, but the interface is way too cluttered and counterintuitive.
@@valerycherney574 just drag and drop?
Yep.. love the sound, hate the interface. Super rough.
Should this run with asio im having to use windows driver this can,t be right?
"Match made in heaven" is certainly a mouthful, because best of luck too yuhh trying to get this on earth.
Great video! Can you show us how to use Tone Net to access user uploaded Tonex models?
Hopefully they will eventually allow you to use just the cabinets from Tonex with amplitube as well
Jason, do you find it odd that when you make a single capture of a pedal/amp/cabinet combination, it still gives you the ability to turn the cabinet "off" after the fact? How does it know what portion of the single capture involves the cabinet?
Hmmmm. I am a physicist and I think... I mean , you got these possibilities since years. There were Impulsresponses. And that's a simple Fourier transformation.
I don't know exactly if it's working for a whole guitar rig but... I mean, you measure the response of your system depending on the frequency.
I will definitely dive deeper into that... nerdish math thing but I think that's it. And I don't understand those fancy progress bars and neural network stuff.
With regard to the question, maybe ToneX is deconvolving the cab from your model. Because AmpliTube know many may IRs of those cabs.
Hmmm. An IR ist only for one amp, effect, cab combination and setting ...
Here , you could adjust your AmpModels tone? Wooow. I will report my findings....
You do great videos. Are the previous Amplitube amps created the same way as the tonex allows one to do?
No, they are circuit modelled. Tonex is a non-linear differential profiling process similar to Kemper Profiling Amp
I can't believe I paid $150 for the full version. I'm getting everything I need out of the (free) Black Angus profile, either within Amplitube or stand-alone 😁
🤣 well that isn't the worst news 😀
I'm torn. I was hoping to get sucked down the tone-chasing hole 🤣
@@jaydeluco4006 🤣
Yeah the user sharing is the killer part of this app.
Thank You. I bought both with the Axe IO but with kids and work this saves me a ton of time.
Shame IK sucks with FAQs.
Greatly appreciated. Sub’d.
I'll wait for the "Integrated Version". :)
Get the SE version. It gets you full access to all the user created profiles
I had a "decent" Police preset with a Mistress flanger, Echoplex, JC120 and Marshall clean amp. I replaced the Marshall with a Tonex version and - oh my - how it improved the preset. Sounding almost authentic right now. The software seems like a game changer with my brief experience.
Hi Jason, Tonex looks really promising. One question I already have Amplitube 5. Can I import Tonex Amps without buying Tonex or I have to buy both to do this ?
Could you do a video explaining the differences and best use of Tonex vs Amplitube? I'm new to the digital amp world/plugin world and would like to get one or the other. Not sure which. Thanks
amplitube recreates the amps and stomps. its like a virtual rig with microphone settings and postprocessing. ToneX is an AI program that "captures" the sound of one real rig and gives you fewer options but a more specific sound based on the real world models. i would say its flexibility (amplitube) vs realism (tonex). but you can combine those and put a tonex rig into amplitube. that gives you all the pre and post fx plus the virtual cabs.
Hi Jason, your videos are always helpful! I wanted to ask why you can't use the profiles of individual tonex pedals in amplitube? in fact I cannot put a tonex pedal in the position of the pedals in the signal chain but only in the slot of the amps. I don't understand the choice of ik multimedia who herself made hundreds of stomp profiles but in fact unusable in amplitube!
great revolution, let's hope that some holy user profiles the Cornish pedals or the famous 2290
From what I understand, this will be implemented in a future update.
ever use ToneLib-GFX? It runs naively on Linux, besides windows and OS X, and I think it sounds stellar. They even have a metal variant.
I think IK stuff sounds pretty good, but man, the interface can be confusing. You cleared up a couple of things at least. I havent paid for anything yet, I think I may just buy Tonex and use Reaper, since I know how to use that.
Thank you for the nice review. I’ve got the Tonex, and noticed you covered important things very well.
It’s interesting and funny that IK Multimedia has produced this software with clear understanding that people want to use it in conjunction with Amplitube, yet they did not make it user friendly! You have to open Tonex within the Amplitube as a substitution for an amp, and basically there is no slot in Amplitube for a Tonex pedal to open. Weird.
I disagree with your last statement that it is a software that is “only a few days old”…. This has been only a few days out, but I am sure IK Multimedia folks have been working on it for months if not years. It is amazing they didn’t figure such a simple glitch in this system!!! It appears they are now trying to fix it. Will see.
There is no way they were not aware. The fact that the release was "September" and not a date, and then came out on the last day of September. This tells me they were updating until the last minute.
Let's see what happens on Feb 16th with Tonex and if "something else" makes it even more useful.
Let's say I have a great Amplitude 5 preset. Can I save it onto the Tone X pedal to use via a power amp and cab?
bought the AXE I/O Solo bundle with the Aplitude 5 and Tonex bundle. got Amplitude running just fine, but have no clue how to use Tonex. LOL.....saved myself $100, should have bought the full version instead.
now the real question is, TH-U Rigs? or IK's Tone X? Which software company profiles amps better? with TH-U theres one advantage. You can take exact copies of your rigs with you on an ipad and connect it to a half stack with power amp.
man so I have to buy amplitude to take snap shots from tonex and chain them together? that blows. I legit was trying to pitch a full modeling scenario that could work for more usability and the ability to side chain snapshot pedals before or after your snapshot amp of choice within tonex
Sorry if I missed it, but have I understood correctly that I can load Amplitube presets into this thing? Is there any other pedal that lets me do that? just want to have Amplitube at my feet.
For example, would I be able to create a preset in Amplitube with all sorts of pedals, precise mic placement, and so on PLUS one amp/cab panned left and another amp/cab panned right, and then download that preset to the Tonex pedal? I'm toying with the idea of having two combo amps for myself, as I am the only guitarist in my band, having the left output (left amp/cab) of Tonex going to one amp, and the right (right amp/cab) to the other.
Plus combining it with the TC Electronic Mimiq to really simulate two guitarists.
Id like to be able to export a preset from amplitube back to tonex in order to add to the pedal. lets say to add a drive to an amp profile
How do the provided sims differ in tonex than amplitude? I get the capture option with the hardware but that's not what I'm after at this juncture.
I don't see the "Other" option in Amplitube 5 (Under Amps) to bring in my tonex amp. Could this have to do with the order of installation point you made?
I try to use the looper in Amplitube 5.5 with an ToneX Amp. But it does not work? I can load only the Amps in Amplitube ??
So can I create a preset in Amplitube with delay and reverb along with my ToneX capture and then export from Amplitube into ToneX the pedal giving me a ToneX preset with delay and reverb?
I’m having an issue using with TONEX inside amplitude five.
I can’t seem to find the presets that I’ve imported like the ones I purchased from Jason?? In the regular TONEX software no problems!
Hey Matt, unfortunately the Tonex presets are not compatible with Amplitube 5. You can open the tone model only in AT5. So, if you want the same settings for a tone model as in the Tonex software you would have to manually set them the same in AT5. Not ideal by any means and I wish it was possible to simply open the Tonex preset within AT5. Hope that helps :-)
If I have amp 5.5 and want to purchase tonex...can I not use tonex within amp 5.5 then? What to do?
It's crazy how up to this date they still haven't added the ability to use tonex presets inside amplitube... Such a shame, because it's a great feature in tonex to swap cabinets and amps between tone models and that cannot be replicated in amplitube.
Has anyone noticed that if you use more than 1 Tonex Stomp pedals within amplitude 5.71 (and you have a Tonex amp inserted) that you can't recall that setting again without it sounding way off? I think this is just a limitation of Amplitude as of the end of 2023 and if you want a virtual pedal board with more than 1 Tonex stomp pedals you're better off just adding pedals as individual Tonex plugins in your DAW.
Hi, I can link tonex to amplitube 5 even if I don't have the amplitube 5 bought? I have it pirated.
I don't have the money to buy a capture device, so I just want a version of AmpliTube preloaded with Tonex models that aren't redundant with what's already there...
Use an audio interface. Will take practice to get it right.
What is not clear to me is the viceversa process. Can i import in tonex an amp/cab listed in amplitube?
Unfortunately not.
Love Amplitube, Tonex seems promising.. both are feature packed for sure.. no need to expand on that in my opinion. I just wish they would have a complete re-do of their GUI. It's laggy, convoluted and messy.. it puts me off using it because of that no matter how good it sounds.
It sounds really, really good for a plugin modeler, I'd say the best of all, and I have almost all of them.
But only thing I find really awkward is that you can't use a modeled pedal + a modeled amp at the same time inside Tonex or Amplitube.
- In Amplitube, you can use Tonex as an amp and use one of the Amplitube's pedals in front of it, but you can't load another Tonex in Amplitube to use it as a pedal.
- In Tonex alone, there's no way to have a modeled pedal in front of a modeled amp, even though they are there.
The only way to use a Tonex modeled pedal + a Tonex modeled amp is to have 2 instances of Tonex loaded on a DAW channel....which it's gonna eat up a lot of CPU resources.
hello I wanted to buy your tonex presets but after how do you add them to the program?
I go through that in detail in this video :-)
@@JasonSadites Ok thaks!
@@DanieleRockGuitar my pleasure 😀
Downloaded the free version just to see how it sounds and I keep getting a fuzz sound every few seconds like wtf?
that most likely means you have a preset that is using amps you didnt pay.
Thats a real issue, the overview. But probably you found your way around by now already ^^
Im still dont understand why they give you Amplitube 5 included with Tonex pedal? Love tonex pedal and love amplitube but they are almost not compatible, or unsable together,
hope IK do something, to at least tweak on amplitube and save on tonex. Its can not be called ecosyatem until dont have a back and forward between both software. Thanks
Anyone trying to purchase via the links provided and receiving the following error "Invalid Publisher Code, Offer, or Publisher - Advertiser Partnership Status" ?
The links are updated now, sorry for the issue. Should be all good now...thanks and sorry for the inconvenience 😀
@@JasonSadites Thanks, just purchased Amplitube MAX with your link, I intend to use it with my Audio Device TASCAM US2x2 and my Behringer FCB1010 in a Macbook Pro, the goal is to replace my old Eleven Rack :) Thanks for the great info you provided that make decided for that
I downloaded both of these on my PC using my I-rig 2 hd .. Sounds like crap have no idea what I’m doing the latency is terrible I’m an old dude should probably stick with amps and pedals!! Every time I try to jump in to new technology it’s a massive fail 😂😂😂😂
Hi Jason, many thanks! I have noted that when you import a tone from tonex to amplitube, the settings of the ampli in amplitube are different in comparison with the original in tonex. Is it normal? thank you, Enrico
My pleasure! Yeah you cannot open Tonex presets within Amplitube. You can open the Tone Model only and then tweak it within Amplitube 5 and then save it all as an Amplitube 5 preset. Unfortunately, Tonex "Presets" are not compatible with Amplitube only Tonex "Tone Models". Hope that helps!
Thank you!
This install order crap needs to be fixed asap. I shouldn’t have to read comments on TH-cam in order to use
why is tonex functionality better than ampli tube?
ToneX appears to me to be a studio tool to capture 1 unique setting of a guitar, amp and cab. Perhaps to save time during the recording process from having to set up all that gear? Where I see a difference between ToneX and AT5 is simply you have no options to change ToneX like AT5. What you hear is what you get. Then there will be variations from guitar to guitar and the pickups in them. If you don't own an arsenal of amps to render, how will this program be beneficial to those of us that run direct through studio monitors over AT5 by itself? I personally have to dial my patches on a guitar by guitar basis. ToneX looks like they are targeting the Kemper/AxeFx guys.
I just installed Amplitube 5 max and I'm like WTF is Tonex? After watching a couple videos, I'm like, give me a fing break. If there isn't enough amp options in Amplitube, somebody has got way too much time. I got music to make and not endless software and plugins to worry about.
are u using tony stark AI voice?
Tonex - you need to have amps to capture.Or a friend who has shop with amps and pedals.Sounds in Tonex itself sounds like Amplitube 5.Not for me.
Crap, I updated Amplitube before purchasing ToneX. Should I deauthorize, uninstall, reinstall?
Uninstall AT5, then install ToneX, then reinstall AT5 is what I read.
I gave up trying to add units to my Amplitude, as they'll claim I have the "wrong password", then I'll change it, bending over backward doing all the woke flat-earth stuff I need to do to try and make IK Multimedia happy, then I'll turn around, attempt another buy -- "wrong password" ...Hooooooooooh......key.
You are not alone, their login procedures are very confusing, I finally got it to work and have been using AMP 5 and Tonex, ( free versions ) they are very detailed oriented and take a long time to get a good tone whereas my NUX mighty plug takes 3 minuets. Good luck.
This is some counterproductive material. Why would you load windows 10 on windows XP? It’s called progression. It does not matter how much you invested into the other, it’s time to move on by the way. It’s really shitty. IK media could work out discounts and benefits for yourself but can’t even acknowledge small purchases to customers. Also the tech-support has been down for three years where they only respond through email It’s convenient for them. Dodge IK media.