C'mon lads, don't you know we have an Olympics to pay for? Jokes aside, the flogs that trash our beautiful environment have only brought this on themselves. If everyone was courteous and thoughtful, there would still be cops around but at least we would have a leg to stand on...been to Teewah recently and completely stand by the enforcement of common sense and decency.
The idiot factor on Teewah is extremely high, even on 'quiet' weekends, let alone during peak holiday time. Doughnuts, drag racing and speeding go all day & night. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little respect for the beautiful place that it is, and none for other people using the beach from what seems to be a fair percentage of drivers. If that attitude prevails, it will get closed to everyone. There should be more policing on that beach to try and bring the idiots into line so that we don't lose the privilege of driving on that beach. Having said that - there has been a recent (Nov '24) speed limit change from 80 km\h down to 40 km\h in front of the camping area and the signage, from all reports, leaves a lot to be desired. I haven't been up there since the new speed limit has been in place so can't comment directly on that.
Agreed . A few ppl have died there and The Big Sandy Island because they're not skilled , in a hurry to start the rushed 3-10day break . Break neck speed . Then youth , well experience comes with age . As for 14 dodgy unroadworthy vehicles, throw the book at the idiots , they know the status of their vehicles beforethey leave home. Just taking the piss they are. 👍🇭🇲🦘
In agreement here also. with fraser Island (Rainbow Beach was great then too) when I was a kid in the 70s, it was fantastic & with vehicles, you only saw one or two ... now it's "COMPLETELY" Different & not necessarily for the better I'm sorry to say..... with teewah & fraser it's always best to go were possible off-peak.
@larrylevinsky You are 100%.correct ,the behaviour at Teewah & D.I. has been getting worse for years .Rubbish/ litter chucked in the scrub, shitters not buried correctly toilet paper flapping, when one camps ,the sites need to be cleaned up.This type of behaviour causes lockouts . The sooner the authorities number the camp sites put a $500 bond & drivers licence I.d.the deposit refunded after the site is inspected. Any breaches the deposit is forfeited & a 2 year ban for the people responsible. This would be the only way because self regulation isn't working.
@robbiebob6267, thank you. I feel it is only a matter of time before a child will be stuck on Teewah by a 4wd travelling at speed going past a stationary 4wd leaving a lack distance, the kids run about can't hear the approaching 4wd because of noise of the surf. Personally I always slow right down giving more reaction time.
if the beach is deemed a public road with designated speed limits with police enforcement, this makes the beach a gazetted road, a public road, therefore why are they charging for permits to drive on a public road. I do not believe it is constitutionally supported to charge people to drive on public roads. I have no problem with the Policing when it is justified.
Then you haven’t done much driving throughout remote Australia. If going through aboriginal owned land it is often required to pay for a permit. The permit is for the right to access the area nothing more. You also don’t understand the term public roads and how it applies to the laws. If you hold an event open to the public on your private land then the roads on your land are open to the public and public road rules apply on your land including police being allowed to enforce the laws upon it for the duration of the time of the event in numerous states and territories.
I'm pretty sure it's called Teewah beach, not Teewah freeway/highway. The Beach has signage stating that road rules apply. One of the rules is to give way to pedestrians/ beach users. When we used to go up there, you would see and hear drivers abusing people for using the beach.
@@ablet85 The Permits for access to "Aboriginal Land" is racist. It's a racially segregated law that excludes everyone else but Aboriginals. That is the very definition of racism.
Been calling this out for years and was laughed at. Kenilworth state forrest is another we will lose soon. I grew up here and hate what i see now. Yuppies and their huge concrete boxes. Kids around twenty with 100K rigs. And they complain they cant buy a house. Glad im old enough to remember it when no one had 4wd's. We'd take our cars up to DI and Fraser. Youd only see someone else if it was the weekend. And being a chef in Noosa it was weekdays off and heaven. A mate has a house at Tewah. He is constantly going out because of kids hooning. And crashing. This is well after midnight. And then the low lifes complain about the plod. When they're the shit that attracts them.
It’s not just up there mate, it’s everywhere. I haven’t been back to Noosa since 2009, and that was many years after I’d lived there. In the early 1990’s, it was “please, someone, come and rent a room in the one highrise apartment block on the sunshine coast, at Coolum (old sunshine coast ‘locals’ will know what I’m referring to), and dirt roads through what was still cane fields, and we did still “laugh and play” because “this is Australia”. Some of us still do, in fact, and are responsible about things. Others? Well, young heads don’t always make decisions, and you’ll never know what motivates some people, ever.
It has a speed limit in place and is clearly sign posted. The dick head factor is high, and there has been a number of deaths and serous injuries from this factor. Burns out and donuts, speeding hanging out of windows, on the roof or in a Ute tub is common. There is an element that believes you can take a total shit box on the beach and it it’s all Ok. One group does a clean each year and picks up tons of rubbish, old batteries, broken tent frames, used toilets, car parts are all common rubbish found
Looking forward to the full episode. 100% correct Duggo, would of been a crazy weekend, often see 100+ cars parked at DI with a steady steam heading each way. To my understanding all beaches in qld are classed as road rules apply and signposted accordingly, you require a permit to access a national park. Teewah is notorious for tools and disrespectful behaviour towards the environment. Won't be long before they close the beach like a lot of WA beaches
All those crying about the police enforcement on Teewah Beach need to stop and have a think about what has happened. There were 400 fines written out. But how many drivers received multiple fines because of their attitude towards both the police at the time, their attitude towards other beach users, and their lack of respect towards the environment and wildlife. A lot of people do not realise Teewah Beach is also a turtle nesting area, and these mammals usually move across the beach at night.
lived at Rainbow Beach in the early 1980's. Was great then. You couldn't pay me to live anywhere near the Sunshine Coast now. Been that way for a couple of decades. Every man and his dog wanted to move there from Melbourne and Sydney etc and it has turned into sh*t hole. It's a shame. Such a pretty area.
Yup 100% Loved growing up on the coast. Absolutely no entertainment. Yet we all had the time of our lives. For mine, 86 was the end of Noosa. When they shut Pine trees and Curly's petrol station on Hastings Street.
Geezuz we’ve never heard that before……livin in the past mate, the worlds moved on, you don’t like it whoTF cares, doesn’t mean it’s a shithole, it means it’s a you problem.
Wrong, MythBusters have tested this, two cars head on, both at 40kmph does not equate to a 80kmph crash, they cancel each other out preserving the impact force of 40kmph.
Don`t worry about fines. What about excessive redgo costs? Me and the wife are here In Australia doing an extended tour around the country with a caravan (couple of years). We have exactly the same vehicle here in Australia as we do back in NZ. Same make ,year, model, engine, everything except colour. Costs $275/ year to register in NZ and well over a grand here for the same time period. I know a big part of that is CTP but what is the rest for? Can`t be the road, I worked for half my working life in Highway Maintenance in NZ and I'm driving through a lot more bad roads here. Is there any way to cut back the Bureaucracy? Great to drive on the beaches here, Greenies have put a stop to that in NZ long ago, and riverbeds, and State forests. Gates everywhere over there,,,
QLD raised almost $1B in fines 2023 -2024. But the deaths on the roads were higher than most other states. There's no High Visibility, there's little proactivity. Rather they hide like cockroaches in their black and grey cars racking up fines. Then trying to contact a station via phone goes to a voicemail, or you cave to call a hotline and they then forward a message to that station. I walked into the station, had to buzz an intercom and wait 30mins. 12yr in the NSW police and QLD made me raise my brows.
Totally agree. Don't really see police on the road since covid, and I live Bris CBD. And unsurprisingly, people are driving like absolute morons these days. Would be nice to see some booze buses again.
@ well good for you for commenting. How about answering the question? 302 road deaths in QLD in 2024. ON QLD roads … How many from Modified 4wds? A handfull or less 1%. How many from unmaintained roads The Government 10%. How many from law breakers? Suspended, no licence, interstate truck drivers overloaded or over tired? Hoon activity and modified speeding coffins from kids, high speed sports cars? No money No brains no maintenance on old junk cars? Foreign tourists and students? How about MORE highway patrols and Police checks on hot spot roads and highways. Including 4wds when patrolling on the bitumen. Do your job police. DONT JUST SINGLE OUT AUSSIE FAMILY CULTURE on the weekends for some overtime.
@garrybrischke53 Those 400 fines were handed out by 1 or 2 police officers. Just what do you think all the other officers in the division were doing that weekend? Probably chasing down the cases you mentioned would be my guess.
Can anyone answer the question? No takers? Just spin and coverups as usual? Why haven’t these very dangerous 4 WDs already been picked up on the bitumen over the last year if Police are doing their job. Why does it have to be on a family weekend and on a beach? Is it a publicity grab? Why not issue warnings and just make it a public relations exercise? Why A fund raising event for the Commissioners targeting Australians culture? Why do Junior Police Officers blindly obey and allow the senior Politically motivated to feed like pigs at the trough. ‘I was just carrying out orders” Tryants. Look at the Victorian jackbooted Gestapo… Australia hates them and rightfully so.
These blokes make a video about fines being handed out, they tell people to follow the rules, then both admit to driving without seatbelts off-road, one even says he let his kid drive a car! It’s pretty obvious why the cops need to be out there parenting people.
30 years ago we used common sense, now that no one seems to have any common sense anymore, the police have had to step in,the only problem with that is that some are more harsh than others
Teewah is a strange place where people who normally drive legally on the road, go there and absolutely cut loose. I love teewah and I also love to see police there doing their job. Unfortunately they aren't there when the real misbehaviour happens at 2am in the morning where it becomes a donut pad and race track. The place is absolutely wild. Busting someone doing 10km/hr over the limit will not achieve a lot.
People think they can do what they want, drink driving, a young kid about 2yr old, was seen standing no seatbelts on the back-seat, speeding, there's a speed limit on tewah beach beach. Thousands of cars go on this beach every weekend. Turtles nest in the dunes... that's the truth of it 😎
Yes and no,you can educate till you blue in the face,but your always going to have dickheads that wreck it for everyone, that's when the police step in,it's a shame they book everyone and not just the dickheads
Sadly, there is that % of humans that have to learn the hard way . They don't have the right to endanger others while they refuse to do the right thing. .
Revenue raising ??? They need the money to support the medi-vac helicopters and beach cleaning that has to be done as a result of some selfish dickheads having a " Fun time ".. I have lived on Kgari / Fraser Is and believe me the heavy hand of the police only came into effect as the result of increasing accidents including fatalities and bad behaviour in many forms . This type of behaviour is not acceptable anywhere else , so why should these wankers get away with it on a public beach , national park or camping reserve . 😡🇦🇺
They've had a few crashes up there due to the hoons and knobs. We who are the locals who use it welcome the police and the crack down. Sadly not enough of it. The hoons and yabbos have wrecked it for eveyone.
True. The mentality seems to be far and wide. As soon as the tyres leave the bitumen, the rules dont apply. People know the cops are around. They know theyre targeting 4wders. But the still continue to FAAFO. Same with the illegal mods. Just keep the mods legal guys. How hard is it? I saw a guy on tiktok pratically bragging that he has received 3 defects in 12 months! FFS mate. Youre the problem. (Yes. I know i'll get lots of hate for this, but the truth hurts)
@frankwren8215 Yep, that would be lovely. But we do have them. Looks like we're stuck with them. The trick is not to make yourself a target, which alot of people seem to be intent on being.
@@frankwren8215 If you want to head out in your 4wd to the beach, break all the laws, speed around in your illegally modified vehicle, go nuts. You can cop all the fines and defect notices you want. The law is the law whether we like it or not. You want to change the law? Run for office. Yes a disagreed with everything about covid and how it was handled. Did i comply? Yes i did. Why? Cause i needed to keep my job.
@@frankwren8215 The laws the law. If you want to change it, go into politics. If you want to ignore the law, then enjoy the fines. Im not disagreeing with you about the stupid laws. But as I said, too many people think that once their tyres hit the dirt, all road rules dont apply. Its these reasons the police are out and about. Its these reasons areas are getting closed off to us. Covid did certainly teach us how stupid rules can be. But it is still a case of ignore them and suffer the consequences.
What I find astonishing is that the speed limit on Teewah used to be 100km/h... and there were still a bunch of speeding tickets issued. I love the message you're putting out too lads, have fun but be responsible
No Rules Noosa. Illegal electric bikes and scooters every where. Un roadworthy vehicles left right and centre. No helmets on motor cycles, bicycles or scooters. I followed a scooter driver on the Sunshine coast Motorway - he was doing 80K's per hour No helmet. An emergency doctor at Nambour hospital told me they get 9 kids a day with electric scooter crash injuries. The government just doesn't care. The police at Noosa aren't enforcing the current rules. God forbid scaring off the Oh So valuable tourist market. I went into a electric bike seller in NoosaVille. Asked him about the over powered illegal bikes he was selling and servicing. He didn't care.
Umm? What physics school did you attend? You obviously did not pay attention. One car, travelling at 40 has a head on collision with another car, travelling in the opposite direction, also at 40 equals a combined impact of 80. Pretty simple maths and physics. Time for you to go back to school.
I was driving in Neerim Victoria on a dirt track without seatbelt and had police come past and see me not wearing it and got fined. They said its still classed as a road. So make sure you do the right thing.
This year was the last time I’m holidays up at Teewah in the village for the Xmas NY period, have been going for the last 6 years and have been a regular to the beach and Rainbow for the past 25ish years. For those of you who don’t know the area or that there’s a small community of approx 80ish houses behind the dunes. The only access to the village is via the beach. It’s the first 40kmh part of the beach after you come on at the 3rd cutting. It use to be 50kmh both at Teewah and the camping areas, unfortunately neither motorist or camper (especially kids) are mindful of each other on the beach ‘highway’. What’s the point of camping at the beach if you can’t use the beach? This last holiday period saw 15k visitors drive on the beach, large majority would have been day trippers up the Double Island. It’s loved to death these days and unfortunately there’s always the 1%. There seems to be a disproportionate number of these reckless drivers and passengers (out windows or roof surfing) that will eventually shut the beach. In past years I was getting RBT’ed 2-3 times per day as they usually park up at the first slow section which is the village. I’m happy for them to be there as the number of idiots doing 20+ over the limit or other stupid things is forever increasing as usage increases. This year not once did I get tested, they were only concentrating on speeding. As they didn’t have the resources allocated from what I saw over the period. It would have been well into the 1000s of offences otherwise. It’s simple, slow down, enjoy the drive, drink within your limits and have a blast while remembering your fellow 4wdriver.
Fark me, I used to drive my HT panel van on a regular basis up Teewah to Double Is point way back in the early 80’s. Driving speeds up to 120 klms ( low tide ) and nobody on the beach. Now you have to pay to travel/ camp and are crimped by the balls to 60klms per hour. Cops with radar and a million others driving.
Hey its not just Queensland , its SA too. 1150$ fine for no seatbelt on a beach over here, same stupid defects etc going on.....the country is fkd, sure need rules but not blatent revenue raising.....they are using choppers to track 4wds when off road in the bush, then they send in the bikes....great use of taxpayer funds , obviously the police like chopper rides and days at the beach..
Most beaches are 'Gazetted' roads, meaning they carry the same road rules as any other sealed or unsealed road. On the good side, it means the Roadside Assistance and Insurance will have the same coverage and accident recovery as any other Designated or Gazetted road, but it also means ALL of the road rules and Traffic Legislation applies. Also in QLD, it doesn't matter if the vehicle is on Private or Public Land, or even if the vehicle is being driven. Anyone can be classed as being 'In Control of a Motor Vehicle' for 'Driving Under The Influence' laws, and it comes down to the Police discretion whether they charge you for having car keys in your pocket and being in charge and in control of a vehicle. Thankfully, they don't abuse that discretion, but don't try and be too clever, because they still have the option to go down that path. The next discretion the police have is around illegal camping in your vehicle. Any sleeping in a vehicle is classified as 'camping'. Once again, the monetary fine is the same as the drink driving fines, so having a snooze in your car after the pub has shut could go into 'in control of vehicle under the influence, or illegal camping. It pays to be polite and ask for mercy and leniency.
As far as I am aware laws must be accented and signed by the Queen Elizabeth, now King Charles. No laws of my knowledge from the 1960s forward not one had been properly accented by the Queen nor now the King making them all make pretend laws untill you challenge the lawfulness of the Act it self
Sorry but there are a billion signs on all the beaches. Speed limit signs. National Park signs. Most of the vehicles fined are doing something wrong, the police just didn’t turn up and sting 400 people, they stung 400 doing the wrong things. No seat belts, speeding, wreck less driving and defects. The amount of vehicles on QLD roads that are so illegal and i see them daily. The police have been taking it easy on these people for to long. I’m all for having fun and enjoying our beautiful country but there has to be rules, or some idiots will burn the place down, kill some innocent people maybe even kids. If you don’t like rules then go find private property to be foolish on. It’s actually about time the police and rangers did something because something bad was going to happen soon and places would start to shut down. It’s not being anti fun with these actions from the police it’s weeding out the ones that cant do the right thing.
At least it’s not a sneaky ass camera hiding. Probably over policed stuff they don’t do on roads as well. The difference is people use the beach they don’t walk around hughways
I have a question Are they beaches or roads? I've had this argument with a lot of people, and I was called some very nasty names 😂. What would your answer be? Maybe another discussion!
A very large part of this is clearly revenue raising. Most likely fining people for a few measley ks over or other nonsensical stuff. I'm a local and while there are some muppets doing stupid stuff, the vast majority are sensible. Throw the book at those clearly doing the wring thing and leave everyone else alone.
Lovely podcast guys, Bring it on I say play silly games get hopefully big fines, I been going thee 61 years this year as its my local beach, We never camp there anymore, we just go over on day trips midweek out of school holidays, all the other times just to many Fwits.
Maybe you meant that the rules don’t apply to, rather than “not privy to.” "Not privy to" means someone is not allowed to know about or has been excluded from information or knowledge.
@@frankwren8215 I don't thin standard road rules are nonsense. No speeding, no mobile phones, Wear a seat belt, no drink driving, no hooning and keep your vehicle legal. It's not hard.
@@OnCountryWithMickcomically low speed limits, touching any electronic device is "using a mobile phone", blow off valves and random tire sized are illegal - the rules are silly and so are you for pretending they aren't.
cops and transport are defecting a lot of FWD in QLD, friend works at one of the 4wd parts supplies and a surprising % of the customers have been required to go in for inspection or straight up defected. A lot over gross weight
@@richardthomson4693 yeah seams like they were cracking down every where over the Christmas break I’m based in Sydney . I was paranoid driving my lifted patrol around
@ . Well the thing is , people just " Bolt Stuff On and hope for the best " . If they actually GOT THE VEHICLED Engineer approved , and then Carried the Approval Notice with them , a lot of the " Defects " would not be . On Site : Cop says " This is Illegal " , to which car owner says , " Here's the Approval Notice that says - You're Wrong , Officer " . Get the idea ?
Guys, please do a little educating and research, all fines are illegal. Stop calling Policies and legislation LAW as it is not. Police officers are only Policy Officers and nothing else. I agree you must act responsibly, but as long as you are not causing harm lose or damage you are fine. Their illegal policies are fining you for something that might happen, so if it doesn't happen you have been fraudulently robbed. You really need to research so you know what your talking about on your pod casts. Good reference is 1973, research what the illegal government did and you'll have better comprehension. I love everything 4x4 but men and women really need to start educating themselves about the truth. Cheers guys.
So you condone this fuckw*t behaviour? Police Officers are LAW enforcement officers...where'd you get this policy officer bullshit? Rules of the road apply on the sand just like on the road, and betcha that all those fines were warranted.
I am disappointed that this number is so low. Teewah Beach is GAZETTED ROAD under Queensland Law. This means that ALL ROAD RULES APPLY on the beach. Drink driving, speeding, hooning, seatbelts, defective vehicles, people riding in trays, and unlicensed driving are just as illegal on Teewah Beach (and on Kgari - pronounced gah-rhee) as they are on the Bruce Highway. Teewah Beach HAD an 80kph speed limit in places, but I have heard it's been its been reduced to 50kph for its entire length. (Which is a shame.) Parents forget that they are allowing their children to play on a highway.
I've been visiting Teewah Beach since I was 7, in 1979. I first drove on Kgari beach when I was 7. Back in those days, 4wds weren't as popular (they were rough as bags and you only bought one if you needed it or, like us, used it as a recreational tool) so there was limited traffic on the beach. We could get away with driving because the cops didn't care and, because of the limited numbers, no one was doing stupid stuff. At 12 years old, if some random in a Ute pulled up, us kids would just jump in the back because we knew the person driving would take it easy. At 15, I was being sent, by myself, down the beach 5-10klm to buy the paper & some milk from the shop because we'd run out. Once again, my folks had instilled in me a sense of doing the right thing and it's be OK. Of course, at 17 I got my drivers licence here in Queensland, and the cops started showing up more frequently. Of course, I was 18 when I got pulled over the first time on the beach and the cop looked at my licence and smirked "how long have you been driving this beach? It's got to be more than 5 years. Stay safe." I've even stood in front of bulldozers trying rip out the last grove of old world forest, a place I can take, a place I call my release, if you want to come up with me. Over the years, on my (at least) annual visit, and as four wheel drives got more comfortable, i've noticed that increase in the amount of people and the decrease in the amount of "ability", or "care" being taken. That was driven home while I worked on Kgari as a tour guide. I've also seen my fair share of deaths onthe island through ignorance and arrogance, and both are as sad as each other. I held one poor English backpacker as she took her last breath. Getting in touch with her family to pass on her final words will live with me forever. The road rules aren't there to spoil anyone's fun. Kgari and Teewah Beach are magical and relaxing and enjoyable places. A mate and I went up last year "unsupervised" and i managed to convince him to drive this day - he didn't know we were going to Eli Creek and that I would be having a skin full of "big boy" drinks while tubing down.
For What exactly ? Reigning in the dangerous , irresponsible Dickheads that " Far Kit Tup " for everyone else ? No , I applaud these actions . It's the Yahoos that get these area closed for Everybody .
For WHAT exactly ? For going out and DOING THEIR JOB , by bringing the irresponsible , and frankly speaking , rather Dangerous Yahoos and Mug Lairs under Notice ? It's those Mugs and Yahoos that get these Areas Shut Down to EVERYONE . But you, apparently , think That's OK .
C'mon lads, don't you know we have an Olympics to pay for?
Jokes aside, the flogs that trash our beautiful environment have only brought this on themselves. If everyone was courteous and thoughtful, there would still be cops around but at least we would have a leg to stand on...been to Teewah recently and completely stand by the enforcement of common sense and decency.
The idiot factor on Teewah is extremely high, even on 'quiet' weekends, let alone during peak holiday time. Doughnuts, drag racing and speeding go all day & night. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little respect for the beautiful place that it is, and none for other people using the beach from what seems to be a fair percentage of drivers. If that attitude prevails, it will get closed to everyone. There should be more policing on that beach to try and bring the idiots into line so that we don't lose the privilege of driving on that beach.
Having said that - there has been a recent (Nov '24) speed limit change from 80 km\h down to 40 km\h in front of the camping area and the signage, from all reports, leaves a lot to be desired. I haven't been up there since the new speed limit has been in place so can't comment directly on that.
Agreed . A few ppl have died there and The Big Sandy Island because they're not skilled , in a hurry to start the rushed 3-10day break . Break neck speed . Then youth , well experience comes with age .
As for 14 dodgy unroadworthy vehicles, throw the book at the idiots , they know the status of their vehicles beforethey leave home. Just taking the piss they are.
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In agreement here also. with fraser Island (Rainbow Beach was great then too) when I was a kid in the 70s, it was fantastic & with vehicles, you only saw one or two ... now it's "COMPLETELY" Different & not necessarily for the better I'm sorry to say..... with teewah & fraser it's always best to go were possible off-peak.
@larrylevinsky You are 100%.correct ,the behaviour at Teewah & D.I. has been getting worse for years .Rubbish/ litter chucked in the scrub, shitters not buried correctly toilet paper flapping, when one camps ,the sites need to be cleaned up.This type of behaviour causes lockouts . The sooner the authorities number the camp sites put a $500 bond & drivers licence I.d.the deposit refunded after the site is inspected. Any breaches the deposit is forfeited & a 2 year ban for the people responsible. This would be the only way because self regulation isn't working.
@iandibley8032 I agree with what you said & you're idea's..... I think you have a very good point!.
@robbiebob6267, thank you. I feel it is only a matter of time before a child will be stuck on Teewah by a 4wd travelling at speed going past a stationary 4wd leaving a lack distance, the kids run about can't hear the approaching 4wd because of noise of the surf. Personally I always slow right down giving more reaction time.
if the beach is deemed a public road with designated speed limits with police enforcement, this makes the beach a gazetted road, a public road, therefore why are they charging for permits to drive on a public road. I do not believe it is constitutionally supported to charge people to drive on public roads. I have no problem with the Policing when it is justified.
Then you haven’t done much driving throughout remote Australia. If going through aboriginal owned land it is often required to pay for a permit. The permit is for the right to access the area nothing more.
You also don’t understand the term public roads and how it applies to the laws.
If you hold an event open to the public on your private land then the roads on your land are open to the public and public road rules apply on your land including police being allowed to enforce the laws upon it for the duration of the time of the event in numerous states and territories.
I'm pretty sure it's called Teewah beach, not Teewah freeway/highway. The Beach has signage stating that road rules apply. One of the rules is to give way to pedestrians/ beach users. When we used to go up there, you would see and hear drivers abusing people for using the beach.
@@ablet85 The Permits for access to "Aboriginal Land" is racist. It's a racially segregated law that excludes everyone else but Aboriginals. That is the very definition of racism.
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Good luck arguing that one.....
@@ablet85 I never pay
Been calling this out for years and was laughed at.
Kenilworth state forrest is another we will lose soon.
I grew up here and hate what i see now.
Yuppies and their huge concrete boxes.
Kids around twenty with 100K rigs. And they complain they cant buy a house.
Glad im old enough to remember it when no one had 4wd's.
We'd take our cars up to DI and Fraser. Youd only see someone else if it was the weekend. And being a chef in Noosa it was weekdays off and heaven.
A mate has a house at Tewah. He is constantly going out because of kids hooning. And crashing. This is well after midnight.
And then the low lifes complain about the plod. When they're the shit that attracts them.
It’s not just up there mate, it’s everywhere. I haven’t been back to Noosa since 2009, and that was many years after I’d lived there. In the early 1990’s, it was “please, someone, come and rent a room in the one highrise apartment block on the sunshine coast, at Coolum (old sunshine coast ‘locals’ will know what I’m referring to), and dirt roads through what was still cane fields, and we did still “laugh and play” because “this is Australia”. Some of us still do, in fact, and are responsible about things. Others? Well, young heads don’t always make decisions, and you’ll never know what motivates some people, ever.
They have signs telling people that road rules apply, and there are speed signs.
It has a speed limit in place and is clearly sign posted.
The dick head factor is high, and there has been a number of deaths and serous injuries from this factor.
Burns out and donuts, speeding hanging out of windows, on the roof or in a Ute tub is common.
There is an element that believes you can take a total shit box on the beach and it it’s all Ok.
One group does a clean each year and picks up tons of rubbish, old batteries, broken tent frames, used toilets, car parts are all common rubbish found
Great work. Way to many Ned Kelly wannabe tough guys with no idea. Keep it up police !!
Looking forward to the full episode. 100% correct Duggo, would of been a crazy weekend, often see 100+ cars parked at DI with a steady steam heading each way.
To my understanding all beaches in qld are classed as road rules apply and signposted accordingly, you require a permit to access a national park.
Teewah is notorious for tools and disrespectful behaviour towards the environment. Won't be long before they close the beach like a lot of WA beaches
All those crying about the police enforcement on Teewah Beach need to stop and have a think about what has happened. There were 400 fines written out. But how many drivers received multiple fines because of their attitude towards both the police at the time, their attitude towards other beach users, and their lack of respect towards the environment and wildlife. A lot of people do not realise Teewah Beach is also a turtle nesting area, and these mammals usually move across the beach at night.
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lived at Rainbow Beach in the early 1980's. Was great then. You couldn't pay me to live anywhere near the Sunshine Coast now. Been that way for a couple of decades. Every man and his dog wanted to move there from Melbourne and Sydney etc and it has turned into sh*t hole. It's a shame. Such a pretty area.
Where did you move to?
Yup 100%
Loved growing up on the coast. Absolutely no entertainment. Yet we all had the time of our lives.
For mine, 86 was the end of Noosa. When they shut Pine trees and Curly's petrol station on Hastings Street.
@billybob1511 property half hr west from Tenterfield.
Geezuz we’ve never heard that before……livin in the past mate, the worlds moved on, you don’t like it whoTF cares, doesn’t mean it’s a shithole, it means it’s a you problem.
@@chrisandshazza01 TOOL
Wrong, MythBusters have tested this, two cars head on, both at 40kmph does not equate to a 80kmph crash, they cancel each other out preserving the impact force of 40kmph.
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Revenue raising 100% you know it is because where are they for the rest of the year.
Don`t worry about fines. What about excessive redgo costs? Me and the wife are here In Australia doing an extended tour around the country with a caravan (couple of years). We have exactly the same vehicle here in Australia as we do back in NZ. Same make ,year, model, engine, everything except colour. Costs $275/ year to register in NZ and well over a grand here for the same time period. I know a big part of that is CTP but what is the rest for? Can`t be the road, I worked for half my working life in Highway Maintenance in NZ and I'm driving through a lot more bad roads here. Is there any way to cut back the Bureaucracy? Great to drive on the beaches here, Greenies have put a stop to that in NZ long ago, and riverbeds, and State forests. Gates everywhere over there,,,
Used to like it up there now I refuse to go there due to the number of idiots. Great job to police should be doing it more often
QLD raised almost $1B in fines 2023 -2024. But the deaths on the roads were higher than most other states. There's no High Visibility, there's little proactivity. Rather they hide like cockroaches in their black and grey cars racking up fines. Then trying to contact a station via phone goes to a voicemail, or you cave to call a hotline and they then forward a message to that station. I walked into the station, had to buzz an intercom and wait 30mins. 12yr in the NSW police and QLD made me raise my brows.
Totally agree. Don't really see police on the road since covid, and I live Bris CBD. And unsurprisingly, people are driving like absolute morons these days. Would be nice to see some booze buses again.
police have become above the politics over the last few decades.
400 wow … So how many violent crimes, car thefts, letter box thefts, home invaders and robberies did the police catch on the same day? … One?
@alexpalmer776 compare the 400 fines to the number of vehicles and I believe there is not an over reaction by police.
@ well good for you for commenting. How about answering the question? 302 road deaths in QLD in 2024. ON QLD roads … How many from Modified 4wds? A handfull or less 1%. How many from unmaintained roads The Government 10%. How many from law breakers? Suspended, no licence, interstate truck drivers overloaded or over tired? Hoon activity and modified speeding coffins from kids, high speed sports cars? No money No brains no maintenance on old junk cars? Foreign tourists and students? How about MORE highway patrols and Police checks on hot spot roads and highways. Including 4wds when patrolling on the bitumen. Do your job police. DONT JUST SINGLE OUT AUSSIE FAMILY CULTURE on the weekends for some overtime.
@garrybrischke53
Those 400 fines were handed out by 1 or 2 police officers.
Just what do you think all the other officers in the division were doing that weekend?
Probably chasing down the cases you mentioned would be my guess.
Can anyone answer the question?
No takers? Just spin and coverups as usual? Why haven’t these very dangerous 4 WDs already been picked up on the bitumen over the last year if Police are doing their job. Why does it have to be on a family weekend and on a beach? Is it a publicity grab? Why not issue warnings and just make it a public relations exercise? Why A fund raising event for the Commissioners targeting Australians culture? Why do Junior Police Officers blindly obey and allow the senior Politically motivated to feed like pigs at the trough. ‘I was just carrying out orders” Tryants. Look at the Victorian jackbooted Gestapo… Australia hates them and rightfully so.
nothing you can say on the channel can justify the over policing off people it ridiculous
LMAO,behave yourself then.
Exactly Govern me harder Daddy boot lickers r us ...
These blokes make a video about fines being handed out, they tell people to follow the rules, then both admit to driving without seatbelts off-road, one even says he let his kid drive a car! It’s pretty obvious why the cops need to be out there parenting people.
30 years ago we used common sense, now that no one seems to have any common sense anymore, the police have had to step in,the only problem with that is that some are more harsh than others
Teewah is a strange place where people who normally drive legally on the road, go there and absolutely cut loose. I love teewah and I also love to see police there doing their job. Unfortunately they aren't there when the real misbehaviour happens at 2am in the morning where it becomes a donut pad and race track. The place is absolutely wild. Busting someone doing 10km/hr over the limit will not achieve a lot.
People think they can do what they want, drink driving, a young kid about 2yr old, was seen standing no seatbelts on the back-seat, speeding, there's a speed limit on tewah beach beach. Thousands of cars go on this beach every weekend. Turtles nest in the dunes... that's the truth of it 😎
Teewah is the absolute worst. Would never go back.
Revenue Raising Nothing Else.. If they cared about safety they would educate people rather than ridiculous FINE THEM.. 10KPH fines is a JOKE
Yes and no,you can educate till you blue in the face,but your always going to have dickheads that wreck it for everyone, that's when the police step in,it's a shame they book everyone and not just the dickheads
Sadly, there is that % of humans that have to learn the hard way . They don't have the right to endanger others while they refuse to do the right thing.
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Revenue raising ??? They need the money to support the medi-vac helicopters and beach cleaning that has to be done as a result of some selfish dickheads having a
" Fun time "..
I have lived on Kgari / Fraser Is and believe me the heavy hand of the police only came into effect as the result of increasing accidents including fatalities and bad behaviour in many forms . This type of behaviour is not acceptable anywhere else , so why should these wankers get away with it on a public beach , national park or camping reserve . 😡🇦🇺
They've had a few crashes up there due to the hoons and knobs. We who are the locals who use it welcome the police and the crack down. Sadly not enough of it. The hoons and yabbos have wrecked it for eveyone.
True. The mentality seems to be far and wide. As soon as the tyres leave the bitumen, the rules dont apply.
People know the cops are around. They know theyre targeting 4wders. But the still continue to FAAFO.
Same with the illegal mods. Just keep the mods legal guys. How hard is it? I saw a guy on tiktok pratically bragging that he has received 3 defects in 12 months!
FFS mate. Youre the problem.
(Yes. I know i'll get lots of hate for this, but the truth hurts)
How about not having silly rules for no reason?
@frankwren8215 Yep, that would be lovely. But we do have them. Looks like we're stuck with them. The trick is not to make yourself a target, which alot of people seem to be intent on being.
@@grunkalunka3449 mindlessly complying with stupid rules results in more stupid rules. Did you learn nothing from covid?
@@frankwren8215 If you want to head out in your 4wd to the beach, break all the laws, speed around in your illegally modified vehicle, go nuts.
You can cop all the fines and defect notices you want.
The law is the law whether we like it or not. You want to change the law?
Run for office.
Yes a disagreed with everything about covid and how it was handled.
Did i comply?
Yes i did. Why? Cause i needed to keep my job.
@@frankwren8215 The laws the law. If you want to change it, go into politics. If you want to ignore the law, then enjoy the fines.
Im not disagreeing with you about the stupid laws. But as I said, too many people think that once their tyres hit the dirt, all road rules dont apply. Its these reasons the police are out and about. Its these reasons areas are getting closed off to us.
Covid did certainly teach us how stupid rules can be. But it is still a case of ignore them and suffer the consequences.
What I find astonishing is that the speed limit on Teewah used to be 100km/h... and there were still a bunch of speeding tickets issued. I love the message you're putting out too lads, have fun but be responsible
I ain’t got to worry about any of that stuff…. We’re still free up in the Far North
No Rules Noosa. Illegal electric bikes and scooters every where. Un roadworthy vehicles left right and centre. No helmets on motor cycles, bicycles or scooters. I followed a scooter driver on the Sunshine coast Motorway - he was doing 80K's per hour No helmet. An emergency doctor at Nambour hospital told me they get 9 kids a day with electric scooter crash injuries.
The government just doesn't care. The police at Noosa aren't enforcing the current rules. God forbid scaring off the Oh So valuable tourist market.
I went into a electric bike seller in NoosaVille. Asked him about the over powered illegal bikes he was selling and servicing. He didn't care.
Physics doesn't work like that. 2 cars in a head on at 40kmh doesn't equal a 80kmh impact.
Umm? What physics school did you attend? You obviously did not pay attention. One car, travelling at 40 has a head on collision with another car, travelling in the opposite direction, also at 40 equals a combined impact of 80. Pretty simple maths and physics. Time for you to go back to school.
correct, each car experiences a 40 km/hr impact.
@ good ol' australian "education" system at work again, like the lawmakers
please explain......
@ two unequal objects in motion at equal speed do not equal a cumulative impact speed as relating to a stationary object, physics 101
pure revenue raising
I was driving in Neerim Victoria on a dirt track without seatbelt and had police come past and see me not wearing it and got fined. They said its still classed as a road. So make sure you do the right thing.
This year was the last time I’m holidays up at Teewah in the village for the Xmas NY period, have been going for the last 6 years and have been a regular to the beach and Rainbow for the past 25ish years.
For those of you who don’t know the area or that there’s a small community of approx 80ish houses behind the dunes. The only access to the village is via the beach. It’s the first 40kmh part of the beach after you come on at the 3rd cutting.
It use to be 50kmh both at Teewah and the camping areas, unfortunately neither motorist or camper (especially kids) are mindful of each other on the beach ‘highway’.
What’s the point of camping at the beach if you can’t use the beach?
This last holiday period saw 15k visitors drive on the beach, large majority would have been day trippers up the Double Island. It’s loved to death these days and unfortunately there’s always the 1%. There seems to be a disproportionate number of these reckless drivers and passengers (out windows or roof surfing) that will eventually shut the beach.
In past years I was getting RBT’ed 2-3 times per day as they usually park up at the first slow section which is the village. I’m happy for them to be there as the number of idiots doing 20+ over the limit or other stupid things is forever increasing as usage increases.
This year not once did I get tested, they were only concentrating on speeding. As they didn’t have the resources allocated from what I saw over the period. It would have been well into the 1000s of offences otherwise.
It’s simple, slow down, enjoy the drive, drink within your limits and have a blast while remembering your fellow 4wdriver.
Fark me, I used to drive my HT panel van on a regular basis up Teewah to Double Is point way back in the early 80’s. Driving speeds up to 120 klms ( low tide ) and nobody on the beach. Now you have to pay to travel/ camp and are crimped by the balls to 60klms per hour. Cops with radar and a million others driving.
@@shanethackeray1988 That's progress. More people = more dickheads.
Go up there Australia day,they'll probably get 800 fines.
Don't forget the every beach is classed as a air strip So all ways Give way to air craft
Hey its not just Queensland , its SA too. 1150$ fine for no seatbelt on a beach over here, same stupid defects etc going on.....the country is fkd, sure need rules but not blatent revenue raising.....they are using choppers to track 4wds when off road in the bush, then they send in the bikes....great use of taxpayer funds , obviously the police like chopper rides and days at the beach..
New beach default speed limit in SA is now 40kph and 25kph within 50m of any person.
Only 400?
Rookie numbers
Just in front of Teewah beach the speed is only 40 and a lot of people forget that
Safety yes for sure, but for statistical purposes definitely NOT. Maybe some of these infringements need to be tested in court.
Seen hi speed roll overs there chopper rescue it is nuts up there. Yes and deaths there.
Plenty of 4wd owners think they are above the law. Glad they got busted.
Sucked in
Meanwhile 400 houses and cars were broken into and not one arrest
Tbf the "unroadworthy vehicles" probs just had some bigger tyres
I was always taught that all beaches in Australia are a national Highway, and that all road rules apply... Was I misinformed??
Most beaches are 'Gazetted' roads, meaning they carry the same road rules as any other sealed or unsealed road.
On the good side, it means the Roadside Assistance and Insurance will have the same coverage and accident recovery as any other Designated or Gazetted road, but it also means ALL of the road rules and Traffic Legislation applies.
Also in QLD, it doesn't matter if the vehicle is on Private or Public Land, or even if the vehicle is being driven. Anyone can be classed as being 'In Control of a Motor Vehicle' for 'Driving Under The Influence' laws, and it comes down to the Police discretion whether they charge you for having car keys in your pocket and being in charge and in control of a vehicle. Thankfully, they don't abuse that discretion, but don't try and be too clever, because they still have the option to go down that path.
The next discretion the police have is around illegal camping in your vehicle. Any sleeping in a vehicle is classified as 'camping'.
Once again, the monetary fine is the same as the drink driving fines, so having a snooze in your car after the pub has shut could go into 'in control of vehicle under the influence, or illegal camping. It pays to be polite and ask for mercy and leniency.
As far as I am aware laws must be accented and signed by the Queen Elizabeth, now King Charles.
No laws of my knowledge from the 1960s forward not one had been properly accented by the Queen nor now the King making them all make pretend laws untill you challenge the lawfulness of the Act it self
"To Serve, and Collect"!!!
It’s awesome to see the police spending time on the beach and giving out fines it’s just a pity they can’t do real police work and catch criminals
Sorry but there are a billion signs on all the beaches. Speed limit signs. National Park signs. Most of the vehicles fined are doing something wrong, the police just didn’t turn up and sting 400 people, they stung 400 doing the wrong things. No seat belts, speeding, wreck less driving and defects. The amount of vehicles on QLD roads that are so illegal and i see them daily. The police have been taking it easy on these people for to long. I’m all for having fun and enjoying our beautiful country but there has to be rules, or some idiots will burn the place down, kill some innocent people maybe even kids. If you don’t like rules then go find private property to be foolish on. It’s actually about time the police and rangers did something because something bad was going to happen soon and places would start to shut down. It’s not being anti fun with these actions from the police it’s weeding out the ones that cant do the right thing.
Get the deets right mate! Local as in this area and we avoid when you clowns come up! Hence the 5 0 mate!
At least it’s not a sneaky ass camera hiding.
Probably over policed stuff they don’t do on roads as well.
The difference is people use the beach they don’t walk around hughways
I have a question
Are they beaches or roads?
I've had this argument with a lot of people, and I was called some very nasty names 😂. What would your answer be? Maybe another discussion!
A very large part of this is clearly revenue raising. Most likely fining people for a few measley ks over or other nonsensical stuff. I'm a local and while there are some muppets doing stupid stuff, the vast majority are sensible. Throw the book at those clearly doing the wring thing and leave everyone else alone.
Mate that prob was the muppets you talk of. Many would have been getting multiple fines, so prob just 50 or 100 different people actually got fined.
@@anthony-1357 Could be, but decades of blatant revenue raising, has made me sceptical.
Class action
By nine year olds? Yep, sounds about right!
its a bogan paradise
Does anyone in WA use a sand flag anymore?
Lovely podcast guys, Bring it on I say play silly games get hopefully big fines, I been going thee 61 years this year as its my local beach, We never camp there anymore, we just go over on day trips midweek out of school holidays, all the other times just to many Fwits.
translation: i am old and live at the expense of everyone else, and they must do whatever I say
get in the ground, grandma
Great!
& don't start on what Queenslanders do in Northern NSW. We're over it ! Confiscate their camping gear and/or vehicles.
Maybe you meant that the rules don’t apply to, rather than “not privy to.”
"Not privy to" means someone is not allowed to know about or has been excluded from information or knowledge.
Beach or bush, so many people seem to think the rules stop where the black top ends. Too mamy know there are rules but simply don't care
Predictable result from having nonsense rules
@@frankwren8215 I don't thin standard road rules are nonsense. No speeding, no mobile phones, Wear a seat belt, no drink driving, no hooning and keep your vehicle legal. It's not hard.
@@OnCountryWithMick I think you're gay, and I don't care what you think
@@OnCountryWithMick spot on.
@@OnCountryWithMickcomically low speed limits, touching any electronic device is "using a mobile phone", blow off valves and random tire sized are illegal - the rules are silly and so are you for pretending they aren't.
Rohny you need a lesson from sir izzac newton and his 3rd law of motion
do the crime, do the time. stop making a big deal of noobs not know laws.
Probably defect fines as well
THAT was specifically Mentioned . Try LISTENING next time , Eh .
Thanks mate .
cops and transport are defecting a lot of FWD in QLD, friend works at one of the 4wd parts supplies and a surprising % of the customers have been required to go in for inspection or straight up defected. A lot over gross weight
@@richardthomson4693 yeah seams like they were cracking down every where over the Christmas break I’m based in Sydney . I was paranoid driving my lifted patrol around
@ . Well the thing is , people just " Bolt Stuff On and hope for the best " . If they actually GOT THE VEHICLED Engineer approved , and then Carried the Approval Notice with them , a lot of the " Defects " would not be .
On Site : Cop says " This is Illegal " , to which car owner says , " Here's the Approval Notice that says - You're Wrong , Officer " . Get the idea ?
They wonder why people hate them
Guys, please do a little educating and research, all fines are illegal. Stop calling Policies and legislation LAW as it is not. Police officers are only Policy Officers and nothing else. I agree you must act responsibly, but as long as you are not causing harm lose or damage you are fine. Their illegal policies are fining you for something that might happen, so if it doesn't happen you have been fraudulently robbed. You really need to research so you know what your talking about on your pod casts. Good reference is 1973, research what the illegal government did and you'll have better comprehension. I love everything 4x4 but men and women really need to start educating themselves about the truth. Cheers guys.
So you condone this fuckw*t behaviour? Police Officers are LAW enforcement officers...where'd you get this policy officer bullshit? Rules of the road apply on the sand just like on the road, and betcha that all those fines were warranted.
Please explain “Their illegal policies are fining you for something that might happen”???!
Like tacklecraft said - wake everyone to what going on or get stomped on.
@@beersintheshed. someones wearing a tin foil hat
@@Bristolcentaurus please explain!
I am disappointed that this number is so low.
Teewah Beach is GAZETTED ROAD under Queensland Law. This means that ALL ROAD RULES APPLY on the beach. Drink driving, speeding, hooning, seatbelts, defective vehicles, people riding in trays, and unlicensed driving are just as illegal on Teewah Beach (and on Kgari - pronounced gah-rhee) as they are on the Bruce Highway.
Teewah Beach HAD an 80kph speed limit in places, but I have heard it's been its been reduced to 50kph for its entire length. (Which is a shame.)
Parents forget that they are allowing their children to play on a highway.
I've been visiting Teewah Beach since I was 7, in 1979. I first drove on Kgari beach when I was 7. Back in those days, 4wds weren't as popular (they were rough as bags and you only bought one if you needed it or, like us, used it as a recreational tool) so there was limited traffic on the beach. We could get away with driving because the cops didn't care and, because of the limited numbers, no one was doing stupid stuff.
At 12 years old, if some random in a Ute pulled up, us kids would just jump in the back because we knew the person driving would take it easy.
At 15, I was being sent, by myself, down the beach 5-10klm to buy the paper & some milk from the shop because we'd run out. Once again, my folks had instilled in me a sense of doing the right thing and it's be OK.
Of course, at 17 I got my drivers licence here in Queensland, and the cops started showing up more frequently. Of course, I was 18 when I got pulled over the first time on the beach and the cop looked at my licence and smirked "how long have you been driving this beach? It's got to be more than 5 years. Stay safe."
I've even stood in front of bulldozers trying rip out the last grove of old world forest, a place I can take, a place I call my release, if you want to come up with me.
Over the years, on my (at least) annual visit, and as four wheel drives got more comfortable, i've noticed that increase in the amount of people and the decrease in the amount of "ability", or "care" being taken.
That was driven home while I worked on Kgari as a tour guide.
I've also seen my fair share of deaths onthe island through ignorance and arrogance, and both are as sad as each other. I held one poor English backpacker as she took her last breath. Getting in touch with her family to pass on her final words will live with me forever.
The road rules aren't there to spoil anyone's fun. Kgari and Teewah Beach are magical and relaxing and enjoyable places. A mate and I went up last year "unsupervised" and i managed to convince him to drive this day - he didn't know we were going to Eli Creek and that I would be having a skin full of "big boy" drinks while tubing down.
That's the thing though, it's not a bloody highway. It's a f&$king beach!
@ typical gen X, loves rules, loves govt, hates fun.
More policing on the beach great. I don't go to teewah or any of the islands on the weekends, crazy times
What’s this a COP channel in disguise.. you look like and act like the things ..! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We need backlash for the police and Queensland government on this
For What exactly ? Reigning in the dangerous , irresponsible Dickheads that " Far Kit Tup " for everyone else ?
No , I applaud these actions . It's the Yahoos that get these area closed for Everybody .
What speeding and drink driving is OK is it? You won't be saying that is one of your kids gets cleaned up on the beach.
For WHAT exactly ? For going out and DOING THEIR JOB , by bringing the irresponsible , and frankly speaking , rather Dangerous Yahoos and Mug Lairs under Notice ?
It's those Mugs and Yahoos that get these Areas Shut Down to EVERYONE .
But you, apparently , think That's OK .
Tin hat and nappy warning here
@ tax funded lifestyle warning