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Can you please test the battery of the M1 Pro vs M1 Max on the 14 inch? Please include tests that aren't GPU-intensive (like web browsing), since it's pretty much a given that the M1 Max will use more battery during GPU-intensive tasks
@@kofiampaduthicklenskat9512 bruh this conclusion was reached like 5 yrs ago. Photo or video editing? Get Mac's. 3d work, coding or gaming? Get windows. It's just that the new m1 Mac's r easily ahead in photo and video editing and catching up in 3d work and some windows applications.
It just that Apple can’t compete with sub-$500 Windows laptops. Sure, you can buy a refurbished Mac (that’s what I did) or an iPad (which isn’t a laptop), but Apple doesn’t have a laptop for those of us who just can’t afford a $800 ultra book.
@@Zach4332 Sub-500 dollar laptops are so bad that they can't even be called laptops.. really. I would save another 500 and get a MacBook Air or find a used MacBook
Pretty much the MacBook Pro is the clear and best option here, depending on what the use will be maybe the surface will be better for you. In my case I’ll benefit from the MacBook Pro.
On the paper - yes, but in reality it might just not be yours. For instance, I used M1 Air since April, but sold it because it's just unpleasant to use because it's made of metal, and the keyboard collects fingers fat which you can't remove completely after few months of use, and I just couldn't get used to Macos, especially when I needed a lot of multitasking.
@@sergeyd2199 As we've seen in this and countless other tests, it's not merely "on the paper"! I have had a MacBook Air for about a year now and it's awesome. The best laptop I have ever owned and I have owned about a dozen if I include work laptops, too. The build quality is fantastic and this beast just keeps on screaming and that w/o a fan! Maybe I just use my laptop with greasy fingers or your body just happens to produce more grease? I hate laptops made from plastic and prefer solidly built machines.
In my case I am tired of windows never really working properly, all programs crash here and then, not all the time but enough to make it annoying for me, I have a custom built PC and a MacBook Air M1 I love Mac OS and the M1 for what I need to do but I do need more ports and up to 32gb of ram, I believe the 14” 32gb ram/512ssd and base model M1 Pro would be enough for my use which involves recording the screen, making music, editing videos and always working with like 30 browser tabs open. I loved the fabless design of the Air but really please to see the base 14” is very silent.
I'm really impressed too. There's no competition at this moment, but unfortunately I find macos UI so slow and not user friendly :( I hope Intel or AMD start producing arm processor soon
@@Stewie4238 actually I think surface has laptop based on arm architecture. But a lot of applications are not able to run on it. So it seems like it's more likely to be about software development compares to hardware's.
@@videosuu300 you realize that people who game on their computer is still a small market. The Mac Pro’s say it in their name. If Apple really wanted to make a gaming computer they most certainly could but it’s not the market they care about
Man, I bought both and was going to do a bunch of tests and I was stressed about finding the time to do them. You pretty much did all the hard work for me and did it better than I would have. Thanks!!!
The thing about Apple laptops is that they pay attention to details that don’t seem to matter, but once you compare them to something else you realise how much of a difference they make
What year is it? When the MacBook Pro is cheaper, more ports, faster, better thermals and battery life. Crazy how stagnant the windows market has been.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 cheaper, better integration, better battery, faster, pro motion, better ecosystem ,better camera,better finish ,3 times faster ssd, (faster CPU, Faster GPU) - yeah great development for mac community.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 Realistically, what do you need touch for? Unless you are an artists or graphic designer which isn't most of the market you really don't need touch.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 those goodies you mention are just more points of hardware faiure on Pro laptops......the era of user uprades is going away in favour of reliability.
that RTX it's a gaming machine it will destroyed the M1 max, but don't forget the fact that in general the M1 max it's a way better machine and also you can see that apple it's on another level, their laptops are competing against 3 companies at the same time: NVIDIA, MICROSOFT AND INTEL.
Do you guys remember the days when windows fans kept saying “MacBooks are so overpriced, slow, and hot that a $300 windows computer could beat it” Well how the tables have turned, now not only are your computers uglier and smell of burnt plastic, but also more expansive, hotter and slower
Also, if you compare to intel, they have been using almost the same technology for cores since 2016, so yeah, macs are faster than the old and useless Intel, but they will launch new gen cores this year, maybe you should compare yo these .
For certain tasks they are still overpriced and there are plenty of metal windows laptops out there and they are cheaper. Plus ugly is a subjective opinion
@@Incidental104 In order for them to do that they'd need to switch CPU architecture and that's very expensive and hard to do. ARM has always been better for efficiency than x86. Remember Apple has been playing the long game with x86 and has been designing their own ARM processors since the iphone 4
What are the chances that the M2 is going to make people regret getting the M1? In the coming years, is it theoretically possible, that if you keep waiting for a better Mac... You'll simply keep waiting, and never buy anything? (Meaning that it will just keep getting better every year)
I have both M1 Pro and M1 Max Macbooks, and both are so fantastic at all tasks I need to do (incl. 4k video editing) that I don’t even theoretically know what ‘better’ could look like. I have not once been limited by either of the laptops in anything I would want to do.
It will be the first time that I will be buying a Macbook Pro. I have always used windows labtops but now I have just placed an order for the 14inch Macbook. I am super impressed with Apple. I never thought I would buy one in my life.
@@ricosrealm I have a new MacBook 16" M1 Pro base configuration (replaced an older MacBook) and a pretty hi-spec 2020 XPS desktop (now running Win 11). Both are great for what I do (photo editing, frequently with very large image files, Photoshop, Lightroom and other image apps). I love the XPS and don't feel any need to change at this time.
What I did was buy macbook pro 13 with m1 16gb unified memory and 1tb storage for web browsing, little bit of photoshop and lightroom when I take pictures on my iPhone and airdrop them into Macbook to edit and all of my college related stuff like homework and online classes. And I got windows pc for gaming. I don't like to play games on a gaming laptops because they are chunky, and cannot work long on battery without being plugged in. So I would say to have best of both worlds is to get macbook for all work/school/traveling/lighter tasks and windows pc desktop at home for gaming and maybe watching a youtube or a movie on a bigger display.
What I did was buy macbook pro 13 with m1 16gb unified memory and 1tb storage for web browsing, little bit of photoshop and lightroom when I take pictures on my iPhone and airdrop them into Macbook to edit and all of my college related stuff like homework and online classes. And I got windows pc for gaming. I don't like to play games on a gaming laptops because they are chunky, and cannot work long on battery without being plugged in. So I would say to have best of both worlds is to get macbook for all work/school/traveling/lighter tasks and windows pc desktop at home for gaming and maybe watching a youtube or a movie on a bigger display.
Can you do a "part 2" of this comparisons with more tests like Handbrake, Baldur's Gate 3 (native on M1), more "general use" battery life test and more!
@@rene.s.s I believe Created Labs did that with a comparison of the base m1 pro chip versus the razer Blade. The Mac suffered compared to the Razer laptop in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. However, it outdid the Razer in most of the other tests
The choice is kind of clear for me: * If you need a productivity laptop, both are great, but the higher quality screen, better speakers, more efficent hardware, and a $100 gap, I think the macbook it's clearly the best... Unless your workflow depends on native Windows/Linux or on the x86 architecture. * If you need a portable gaming laptop, go for the surface one, no matter how great these M1 Pros/Max are, the fact we don't have native games running on macos or M1 architecture makes windows laptops the best option for gaming. I know developers could port their games to macs, but maybe not worth for most of them (since all serious gamers use windows), at least not now, and it could take several years from now to see a decent gaming library running natively on macos. TL;DR Productivity => MacBook Pro* ; Gaming => Surface Laptop * It depends on your workflow
Entirely correct ....but you could have said " if you have constraints, that mean you don't have a choice - then go with the SLS. If you have fewy limitations, it is a no-brainer. You can go with the MacBook. It is a better machine for the same money." haha. In truth, I can't argue with you. I have an SLS and have some constraints, so I am happy with it. I really love this PC. I will NEVER again get a PC that doesn't have touch or pen input. I won't do it. Having those is so powerful when you need them. I don't use them, only sometimes, but when I need to, there they are, which is fantastic. Moving the screen to watch shows etc., is fab, and when you pull the screen forward, it enhances the bass a great deal making watching things more immersive. It is a svelt package, and I love carrying it around using it. I had a surface book2 I thought I would use until my hands were cold and stubby. I really liked using that machine. It was awesome. However, I like the SLS even more. Problem: Battery life. After saying all I have said above - I would contemplate moving over specifically and exclusively for battery life. Battery anxiety is real, and I can't stand it. This PC needs to last longer. That is a fact. It just does. I get about 3-6 hrs with it, which is just not enough. Something has to be done with Windows PCs. Battery life is a killer.
It was DOA anyway with its unacceptably reflective screen. Even Dell figured out better anti-reflective coatings - at least on xps - for a few years now?
@@LazyPCRehab I don’t see any real advantage of such design. It will be heavier, more expensive and not so practical. It is like foldable phones, I prefer classic iPhone over any foldable device.
The ugly version of apple laptop. Windows jus like to copy. Monkey see monkey do. Previous MacBook Pro design come only with thunderbolt, so windows surface pro also follow with that stupid direction.
I just got the 14" m1 pro (10 core) and one thing I miss as a video editor is eGPU support. My *5700XT is still like 50% faster* than the 16core GPU. I will keep an Intel Mac mini on deck just in case I need more power in the future.
@@bigsur370 I'm using final Cut Pro. *I Spoke too soon!* I had only tried benchmarks. I just did some prores exports in some cases it's almost 2x as fast 🤯🙌🏽💪🏽
I draw, so there is no competition. SLS basically gives me an iPad Pro and a great laptop in the same package, it's great value for the money. Going to overclock the GPU with Afterburner for some extra performance, it does make quite a difference.
This is the PC vs Mac comparison I’ve been waiting on. Longtime surface user and I’ve been debating on switching to Mac since I recently got the Surface book 3.
@@Davidsworldtravels I think for me I want something that feels connected to the rest of my devices . I came from the surface book 1 and before that surface pro 4. The SB3 and SB1 feel exactly the same with and I can 100% get my job and school work done. But other than that computer my entire house is Apple products. I recently got a iPad Air 4 as part of a program with my school and I find the Apple Pencil way more responsive when writing notes, organic chem, and physics. I’m curious how well the iPad works in the apple ecosystem with the MacBook.
@@cavincurrin362 The iPad interacts with the ecosystem (that includes a MacBook) quite... well. The primary benefits you'll be reaping are generally associated with connectivity and ease of transition between the devices. To be more precise, you get iCloud on both devices (assuming that you use it), and can essentially transfer work between the devices easily. For instance, I use Notability on my iPad to take notes for my courses, and having access to my notes on my MacBook through iCloud syncing (Notability is also available on macOS) has been convenient. I use other Apple native apps (Calendar, notes, etc.) too, but the story is the same for those. I must however mention that the iCloud feature can be replicated (for non-native Apple apps like Notability) on a Windows machine by just using Google Drive (or other cloud storage platform of preference), albeit at the cost of minor convenience. The other benefit that might not apply to you is the capacity of using more powerful versions of applications that are available on iPadOS/iOS (the ones I use are Spark and Things 3). Having the capability of using these applications both on the laptop and the iPad (trading feature-set and speed of usage for mobility) is quite pleasant. If someone, who's indifferent towards macOS and Windows OS, asked me if getting a MacBook Pro is worth it for the aforementioned benefits, I'd be quite hesitant to respond (although I'm quite skewed towards the new MacBook Pros as they've become an extremely good package compared to the previous iterations). There is, however, one feature that I would recommend the MacBook Pro for: sidecar. It's essentially a feature that allows you to use a compatible iPad (fortunately, your iPad Air 4 is compatible, but double check just in case) as a second screen for your MacBook (wired or wirelessly). I've been using it for the last week and have been very happy with the productivity boost that it offers me. I'll mention that I'm an engineering student who also studies physics; as such, some of the things we do might overlap. Sidecar was the reason behind why I got a MacBook Pro (new gen, I wouldn't recommend going for Intel alternatives). I own a Razer Blade Pro, and before the purchase, carried it around the campus and the lack of a second monitor was quite annoying. I tried to find a software solution on Windows, but most were very unreliable and inferior compared to Sidecar (not to mention the ease with which you can start Sidecar on macOS) I suppose Focus deserves a mention too as it's been quite convenient having it activate across all my devices, but it is a very small benefit.
I've got both a Surface Book 3 and a Macbook Air M1 (With Windows running under Parallels). The Macbook Air's a great portable machine but the fonts aren't as clear on my external 27 in Dell Ultrasharp as they are on the Surface Book 3. It's subjective but I also strongly prefer the keyboard on the Surface Book 3. The Mac trackpad is better but the Surface Book 3's is perfectly fine. I also miss the Surface's touchscreen and Windows Hello on the Mac.
Great comparision (apart from where you said 'about 95W' when you meant 'about 95C'!) It's amazing that the Mac in Cinebench is giving +50% more performance at 50% of the power - that's a 3x in Perf/W ! I am wondering if they will push the clocks higher with more power consumption for the Desktop versions of the M1 Pro & Max...
Waiting patiently for you guys to make the M1 Max 24 vs 32 core GPU and 32 vs 64GB of RAM comparisons. This is all that is stopping me from purchasing today, can't wait!
I like how people kept mentioning the surface book and its 1080p camera when complaining about the notch on the MacBook, when in reality the quality difference between the two 1080p cameras are insane. Ofc, would have preferred it to have no notch, but you can't really deny that the MacBook is just vastly superior thanks to the notch.
@@MissyMalaprop I have the 16" and it's almost impossible to notice the notch, that area on macOS remains unused for years. I thought it would suck but it just doesn't matter. The screen is so big that the menus are all visible to the left, and the status icons to the right, with room to spare. Even in Final Cut Pro or PhotoShop (or similar) the menus are never so many that they reach the notch. Wouldn't recommend scaling things up big on the smaller 14" though 😢 RIP anyone with bad eyes and a 14" doing pro app work
really you think the camera on the Mac is insanely better? I can't see any difference. As probably 99% of the people in this world. And the Surface microphones are a lot more clearer.
just a note: the thermal tests are probably off in favour of the surface laptop as the macbook has a black keyboard whereas the surface is silver and grey. black absorbs way more heat and thermal cameras often have a hard time figuring out temperature on metals because of their reflectivity.
That’s a really good point, and the same is probably true when comparing to older MacBooks as well since they didn’t have a black keyboard backing. I was wondering why the new ones seemed to be running hotter even when they weren’t doing that much work (at least considering how powerful they are)
the Mac is a beast. I only wish game companies would just port some games as native to the Mac. That surface is almost there though when it comes to working. Like the way the screen can be hinged in various angles.
I just got the base 3050 SLS since it's $400 off. $1700 for the model (in video) vs the $2700 model with 32gb ram and 1tb storage. I was originally going to get the iPad pro but didn't like the idea of being limited to the app store. Works perfect whether I'm signing docs, playing games or sketching a new idea. I'm also replacing the slow windows m.2 SSD with a Samsung 970.
@cornflake it's been about a year but I recall it was pretty straightforward after locating all the screws. The outer metallic trim is kinda thin so you have to be careful to not wrinkle it. I'd just suggest having some extra mounting tape or rubber cement on hand for all the trim pieces.
Can you please test the battery of the M1 Pro vs M1 Max on the 14 inch? Please include tests that aren't GPU-intensive (like web browsing), since it's pretty much a given that the M1 Max will use more battery during GPU-intensive tasks
I almost nailed the MacBook battery at the end, I thought it would be at 59%. Can you do a comparison against a Ryzen processor too? It would be very interesting to compare them.
During the stress test, you had the Surface Studio blowing hot air in to the intake of the MacBook Pro. You could see the heat trace from the Surface Studio going in to the MacBook Pro. :P
At last, a headphone jack test... been requesting for this in the comments section of the other m1 pro macbook videos. Its actually a pleasant surprise to see you use Senheiser headphones for the test. I currently mix music using the senheiser hd560s connected directly to the headphone jack of a 2012 macbook pro. The giveaway was my most realistic chance of owning the new macbook at the moment ...obviously didn't win but it was nice dreaming for a couple of days. Great review as always
Where you really satisfied with his test? When you rewatch it you can see how he holds the headphones way further away on the surface than on the Mac. I'm a music producer and a couple centimetres are enough for it to sound much quieter, so the test was basically useless the way he did it.
@@demp11 that particular test looked lame to me and I don’t know anything about music production. I think it was Brian tong who I saw once do a decent headphone test video comparing airpod max with competitors -you’d need a setup like the one he used.
@@demp11 I did notice that when I watched it first time but i think the difference in distance could be an optical illusion since he uses different hands to hold the headphones for each laptop. For the macbook his hand is closer to the camera which i think makes it look like they are closer to the mic. You could however be right that the headphones are closer but i would like to believe that @maxtech would have done the test prior to filming the video with the results being more or less the same. In terms of me being satisfied by the test, the test was obviously not detailed as you would get from audiophile reviewers like Joshua Valour and I know volume isn't everything. If you ever get your hands on one of these I would appreciate your thoughts if you could be be kind enough to share. Thanks😃
@@slowercuber7767 actually the best would be to use binaural microphones, there formt like real ears and often come as a head where you can put the headphones on
I’m guessing the M1 is at 52% battery I just got my Air on Tuesday. I’ve updated the OS to Monterey, installed / upgraded apps and watched a movie. I still have never plugged it in and it is at 60%. It’s been 40 hours. My 2019 dell precision wouldn’t have made it through the os download.
No problem, just louder artificial software tweak on surface… MacBook actually caught more detail as some test shown out there on TH-cam, if you want to get louder sound, no problem, just rise it and add an compressor.
And Mac buyers have more disposable income. Seems like a no brainer but maybe Apple have their own long term gaming plans. Otherwise they would incentivise developers.
Games have really tight margins. So if they can only pick one platform to specialize and develop for, it’s gonna be windows. The difference from 2020 onwards is that games developed for Mac can be run on iPhones and vice versa so it’s starting to make much more sense to specialize for Apple.
I tested Disco Elysium on my new 16 M1 Pro, base model. It runs smoothly on native resolution with max settings, and no fan noise at all. Very impressive. VERY. Waiting for more native games.. Looks like we finally can get some good games on mac
Very pro video, as usual. Beware, at 10:21 your sub-title is wrong. It should be (higher is better). I've already noticed this kind of mistake is your previous videos. Great job, though 😀
M1 macs are pretty sick, the second they get it able to run everything I'd insta buy. But It's just hard to pick it over other laptops that can do it all like work and game. I don't want a laptop for each but for thoese that fits in its a great option
I think Microsoft has made an excellent product. I like everything going for it. The hinge detachment, transforming to a tablet touch screen had me. The problems lies with the Intel chip itself and perhaps supplying a slower SSD. So now you have the problem of Intel inefficient CPU (repackaged, tweaked CPU from few generations ago) along with a substandard SSD. Probably to off set the GPU cost. I guess now you can clearly see what you pay is what you get. Now it doesn't seem like Mac are that overpriced after all if you break it down. Not including the time savings you shave off in a day, weeks, months rendering.
@@Saykey20111 Yeah, a Wacom which will have much better sensitivity, much better accuracy and a hundred times better than the surface pen!! That thing is designed for illustration specifically too. I will happily take that, thanks for the advice :)
@@MissyMalaprop Price is still a factor and upgradeability. And windows has the advantage in Engineering applications. Nvidia's RTX series also has hardware accelerated RT allowing for much faster renders in 3D applications
No touch + pen ruins the whole laptop for me. I need the drawing capabilities. SLS basically gives me an iPad Pro (~$1000) and a laptop in single package for only $100 more. SLS is way better value for money in my eyes, regardless how nice the M1 Pro chip is.
Yes! Slower, more expensive, worse sound, lower battery life, lower build quality, lower camera quality but with a better microphone. Impressive! Wait, what? Oh and Microsoft customer service is GARBAGE if something breaks. They have no enterprise support at all. I had one professor buy a new Surface Pro 4 back in the day, used it for one week, gave it to me, bought an Apple to replace it. Hilarious. Free Surface. We used to pass that one around to prospective buyers as a cautionary tale. Cute but we'd never buy one for actual work.
@@lexwaldez firstly, I disagree about the microphone. Yes, it’s *louder* but in terms of quality it wasn’t as “level” as the MacBook’s, there were parts of what Max said which dropped to a lower volume, some of it was muffled and some was slightly distorted. I’ve always said the mics on these new MacBooks are a bit quiet for some reason - but the actual sound quality is excellent. Second, I haven’t actually (technically) used either device but we all know what a MacBook’s build quality feels like at this point. The surface looks to be pretty good, especially compared to other Windows laptops.
It was mentioned that the M1 MBP CPU was better (10:10), but both diagrams state lower bars are better and the M1 bars are higher. Is this a mistake, or am I missing something?
That doesn’t matter. People have been buying Apple computers long before they offered anything close to a decent price/feature ratio and that was back when they cost more than $1000 less than they do now.
There's no denying that the Surface is a very nice machine. But, it's hard to compete with Apple Silicon. If they can keep on improving with the M2 and M3, I think Apple will have the advantage for a few more years.
Exactly. It's weird how the fact that you are basically getting an iPad Pro and a good laptop in the same package for only $100 more wasn't worth even mentioning in this comparison. If you draw, the choice is obvious.
I think the MacBook webcam takes a slight edge. The Microsoft Mic was much louder so it's hard to tell which is better. Edit: I guessed 52% battery, close lol. That's even with the screen ramped up, not bad.
A neat video as always! Some thoughts if I may: 1. Load up some more stressful tests in Blender. While Party Tug is great, we're splitting hairs over a second or so per frame. Throw Classroom, Gooseberry, or practically anything else for a good Blender test that takes minutes and it'd be nice to see how the machines perform. 2. Would you re-test the Davinci Resolve export without the low battery throttle? Not that I don't doubt the Mac would still win, but it would be neat to see a fair time. 3. Maybe load up a couple games that are available cross-platform (FFXIV's benchmark) or other than 3D Mark. While the 3D Mark suite is good, it's still simulating a game vs loading and engaging with a real one. Otherwise since you cover all the awesome hardware, it'll be cool to see the mobile version of Alder Lake 12th Gen Intel since they have supposedly made some great strides against Apple and AMD! Keep it up!
Thanks for the video. Pretty thourough comparisons overall.👍 Just one thing. In the end you ask the question, "Is it worth spending $100 dollars more for the Surface Laptop Studio rather than the MacBook Pro?" and then you highlighlight some of the differences such as cameras, performance etc., but you omit in that final summary analysis, one very critical difference: the context-conforming functionality of the Surface Laptop Studio with a touch and inking focus designed with creators who want a portable studio/drafting table tool combined with power. It is the synergy of that functionality and power that Microsoft is targeting toward a specific market of creators. That market knows who they are. Anyone besides tech geeks who just want cool tech, and a small subset of other creators who are considering buying the Surface Laptop Studio are considering it specifically because of the adjustable display and the inking/drawing/drafting capabilities that this, as a tool, will fit into thier workflow. When reviewers mention that functionality, or brush past it, but then conclude the review without placing the devices into the broader context of who the devices are targeted toward, without strongly highlighting the functionality within the context of the audience it is designed for and concluding with a mere "clamshell laptop vs clamshell laptop" context acknowledging only the "generic differences: performance, cameras, etc. and gloss over the true differentiator that makes the products innately and functionally different, you miss the broader context. When done in that fashion it appears that the comparison is motivated more by a surface level "Latest form Microsoft vs Latest from Apple" rather than the more nuanced, real world and realistic - "Who are each of these products for, how does the synergy of design,, form factor and performance serve that target audience, where do the target audiences of these two devices overlap (Picture a Venn Diagram), where does each products design, form factor, performance exclusively serve a particular segment (again picture a Venn Diagram where the products don't overlap), etc. All of these types of nuanced perspectives have to be acknowledged particularly when comparing fundamentally different products with fundamentally different target markets. We can't just highly focus on the areas that overlap (in this case clamshell laptop use) when the SLS is intentionally and functionally designed as a portable studio for art, drafting, presenting etc. When you ask that final question, ""Is it worth paying $100 more for the Surface Laptop Studio" the answer from most of the people seriously considering this device, Microsoft's target market, who are looking at it primarily for that synergy of adaptable form factor, inking and performance, would likely answer a resounding, "Yes", since it fits a particular work flow that the strictly clamshell, non-touchscreen, inking incapable Mac Book Pro cannot meet despite its other advantages. Analogy: If a landscaper (a type of artist🙂) is looking for the latest nicely built vehicle, with a known brand name, great build and power to use to carry his equipment between jobs - a 2021 Ford F150 Pickup might be in his sights. Now someone can decide to compare the latest, nicely designed 2021 Porsche to the Ford F150 this landscaper is considering. They may highlight its sleeker design and how it can outperforms the F150 in going from 0 to 60 in a certain amount of time; and they may conclude the comparison focusing on the speed, sleekness, and other features while not mentioning that the F150 has space in the back to carry large equipment. The two may be the latest and greatest from each company, and they may even overlap in some areas(both can be used as commuter vehicles to drive from point A and B and drive around town), but they are fundamentally targeted at two different consumers and it is for those distinct audiences where these distinct vehicle form factors and specific uses don't overlap. The landscaper, would buy the truck because as a tool it fits his needs and a reviewer comparing the teo vehicles must be sure to really highlight the different audiences and functionality of each vehicle, not just the areas where they overlap.👍👍🙂 Thanks again for the video.Your videos are very thourough in what they cover. Hopefully this comment will be taen to heart and we'll see some more comparisons stressing the different markets for these devices to see more clearly where the strengths in real world use for *the specific markets* the devices are made for really apply and the factors that are valued for specific target markets so that those values can be compared appropriately when measuring one device against another. Because for the target market of the Surface Laptop Studio, the adaptable form factor, touch and inking as a portable studio is something that has high value, where the performance doesn't have to be top of tbe line as long as it handles the users workflow. Adaptable form-factor/inking/touch/Performance synergy is key for the Surface Laptop Studio market market. Just some thoughts. I'd like to hear your feedback and hope thus critical assessment isn't deleted. Lets talk.🙂👍
You nailed it. I don't understand how I needed to scroll that far to find someone pointing exactly this. Being a digital artist, the Surface laptop Studio looks incredibly valuable to me. It's a damn good laptop on top of being able to replace my Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, and make it a sexy mobile graphic tablet. The comparison just cannot be made "In favor" of the Macbook without mentionning this. The review here is only showing the Surface is very capable when fighting with the market dominating laptop, performance wise. Otherwise, to test the MacBook M1, you'd have to find his proper opponents on the market. Anyway.. Thanks OP I suggest you start your own reviewing channel :)
@@olivierleroy9432 Thanks Oliver. I’m glad the point was well received and hope varying perspectives such as this are taken seriously to offer a broader and more real world perspective of how these different devices are used, who uses them and who they are targeted toward toward. A benchmark focused assessment with little to no stressing of the deliberately designed form factor and other distinct attributes (ie inking) provides a very narrow view of the devices and doesn’t account for the Surface Laptop Studies purposed design for a specific audience for whom that design has value.👍🙂 Thanks again. I hope your art is going well and perhaps if you have the SLS you can give some feedback on how it works for you as a tool to create your art😎👍.
I’m watching this on my OLED phone and I don’t see blooming at all on the Mac. I also love how, at the end, Max is trying so hard to not say that the Surface got demolished. As a side note, imagine getting absolutely crushed by something that is being held back and costs less money. I wonder how the 10/16 core version would fare in this comparison. It’s still a $100 difference.
Awesome comparison Max I really respect your unbiased comparisons. The M1 is undoubtedly a performance beast and that is where it excels at. I would say, however, that unless you are a video editor the Surface is the most complete machine. Surface Studio is about versatility, it's about allowing you to use touch and pen input. If you don't care about these, the mac is better. For me however, I can imagine getting a device without touch in 2021. I'm a photographer who dables in design and a little video editing, so the Surface is perfect for me. Not to mention that I can do some side gaming on the surface as well which is a great bonus.
are you OK as photographer with display? Retina colors and black is much better on apple.. I am photographer too and deciding between these two. I am windows user.
@@jozeftengeri6197 honestly my only issue with the surface's display is that it's very glossy. Otherwise it's great. For me the macs are out of the question because I don't like Mac OS but mostly because as a photographer having a convertible with touch and pen support is miles better than just a boring laptop. I use the pen in lightroom and photoshop all the time and just normal touch for OS navigation as well.
I really wanted to buy the surface laptop because of the pen support.. but ended up buying the mac simply because of the battery life and the high performance, and settled just a wacom tablet on the side. It's a shame that windows can't compete with mac. I really wanted the screen to draw on.
I really like this review.. other than the display quality and ssd I really like the surface's ergonomics and graphics performance. now that I use resolve and Reaper instead of fcp and logic, I would really consider going pc
Definitely a great contest. I’d say for a digital artist, 3D designer or whatnot then the Surface is close to perfect. We’re now at a point where 14” laptops can render 4K video faster than real time but the true powerhouses in the category like the MacBook Pro 14, Zephryus G14 or Blade 14 can do it at close to twice real time. That’s insane. The Surface suffers from battery life that the MacBook and G14 excel at, but all 4 are excellent overall. Sucks they all start at £1,500 and above, but even MacBook Air and Acer Swift X with the 3050 Ti aren’t far off these if you want something light but still decently powerful at around £1,000. What a time to be getting into editing!
Great comparison. Despite the goodness of the Macbook, I'm gonna go for the Surface because I need Autodesk apps as well as digital drawing in one device.
@@AleySoundz No I need screen drawing.. pen tablets are not my thing. Even ipads won't work for me cause I need an all in one package. I'm not an Apple or Microsoft fan. I want practicality. The Apple's performance advantage is not noticeable in my daily use, so it checks fewer boxes for me.
The audio from the Surface's mic was louder but had that swirly processed sound. Cameras looked similar in good light, the MBP was better in lower light.
@@ch3vr0n123 Strange argument. I recently bought a laptop with amd cpu, ryzen 7 8 cores 16 threads in just 15 watts So it's definitely doable. The fact that intel can't pull it off is their problem
Were you surprised by the battery life difference? What about real-world performance? Comment below!
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Can you please test the battery of the M1 Pro vs M1 Max on the 14 inch? Please include tests that aren't GPU-intensive (like web browsing), since it's pretty much a given that the M1 Max will use more battery during GPU-intensive tasks
@@kofiampaduthicklenskat9512 bruh this conclusion was reached like 5 yrs ago. Photo or video editing? Get Mac's. 3d work, coding or gaming? Get windows. It's just that the new m1 Mac's r easily ahead in photo and video editing and catching up in 3d work and some windows applications.
That MS laptop is so reflective, I saw Max dancing around and head bopping when he was testing the music. 🤣
That's some of the down sides of having a touchscreen is glossy displays
@@crestofhonor2349 Not true. ThinkPads have touchscreen options with Matte display. Since many years now.
@@preetishhs even Dell XPS laptops have that
@@crestofhonor2349 Nah iPads have touchscreen but the reflection is almost or the same as macbook pro
It's been the deal breaker for years but MS just kept ignoring it.
When Apple wins in the “value for money” category, where will the competition go?
Well… Apple and value for money won’t be on the same page. There’s always a premium you have to pay.
@@sheenpc While, last year's M1 MacBook Air is the best value ultrabook IMO
@@sheenpc This MacBook Pro just killed the Surface laptop while costing $100 less
It just that Apple can’t compete with sub-$500 Windows laptops. Sure, you can buy a refurbished Mac (that’s what I did) or an iPad (which isn’t a laptop), but Apple doesn’t have a laptop for those of us who just can’t afford a $800 ultra book.
@@Zach4332 Sub-500 dollar laptops are so bad that they can't even be called laptops.. really. I would save another 500 and get a MacBook Air or find a used MacBook
Wow. The base 14” is pretty damn impressive. The battery life difference is huge.
Pretty much the MacBook Pro is the clear and best option here, depending on what the use will be maybe the surface will be better for you. In my case I’ll benefit from the MacBook Pro.
On the paper - yes, but in reality it might just not be yours. For instance, I used M1 Air since April, but sold it because it's just unpleasant to use because it's made of metal, and the keyboard collects fingers fat which you can't remove completely after few months of use, and I just couldn't get used to Macos, especially when I needed a lot of multitasking.
@@sergeyd2199 too bad
@@sergeyd2199 As we've seen in this and countless other tests, it's not merely "on the paper"! I have had a MacBook Air for about a year now and it's awesome. The best laptop I have ever owned and I have owned about a dozen if I include work laptops, too. The build quality is fantastic and this beast just keeps on screaming and that w/o a fan! Maybe I just use my laptop with greasy fingers or your body just happens to produce more grease? I hate laptops made from plastic and prefer solidly built machines.
The MacBook Pro is literally better in every aspect lmao, while it is even cheaper.
In my case I am tired of windows never really working properly, all programs crash here and then, not all the time but enough to make it annoying for me, I have a custom built PC and a MacBook Air M1 I love Mac OS and the M1 for what I need to do but I do need more ports and up to 32gb of ram, I believe the 14” 32gb ram/512ssd and base model M1 Pro would be enough for my use which involves recording the screen, making music, editing videos and always working with like 30 browser tabs open. I loved the fabless design of the Air but really please to see the base 14” is very silent.
really impressed by how strong the MacBook's are with M1, they do so well with lower power usage. Can't wait to get a Mac one day!
I'm really impressed too. There's no competition at this moment, but unfortunately I find macos UI so slow and not user friendly :( I hope Intel or AMD start producing arm processor soon
@@Stewie4238 ARM is a company
@@Victor-ze3sd Is also an architecture for CPU... Developed by ARM.
@@Stewie4238 What I mean by brand is that they probably have a patent on it as the company is named after its CPU architecture
@@Stewie4238 actually I think surface has laptop based on arm architecture. But a lot of applications are not able to run on it. So it seems like it's more likely to be about software development compares to hardware's.
Apple chips are doing massive work
at this point I think apple just keep beating the dead horse. nice content as always max. still waiting for the m1 max iMac.
I'm waiting for this too
a dead horse that you can game on it xD
@@videosuu300 with DLSS maybe
@@videosuu300 you realize that people who game on their computer is still a small market. The Mac Pro’s say it in their name. If Apple really wanted to make a gaming computer they most certainly could but it’s not the market they care about
@@1nine8two39 you must be joking lol
Man, I bought both and was going to do a bunch of tests and I was stressed about finding the time to do them. You pretty much did all the hard work for me and did it better than I would have. Thanks!!!
Did not expect the speakers to sound so good on the Macbook, and that SSD speed!! Apple really outdid themselves with these new chipsets
The thing about Apple laptops is that they pay attention to details that don’t seem to matter, but once you compare them to something else you realise how much of a difference they make
Good point!
Details such as ??
@@STeroidsnicca 🤣
@@STeroidsnicca Notch :P
@@STeroidsnicca trackpad, chassis
What year is it? When the MacBook Pro is cheaper, more ports, faster, better thermals and battery life.
Crazy how stagnant the windows market has been.
No touch, no pen, no camera login, no upgradable ssd ... yeah - great development for the mac community.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 cheaper, better integration, better battery, faster, pro motion, better ecosystem ,better camera,better finish ,3 times faster ssd, (faster CPU, Faster GPU) - yeah great development for mac community.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 Realistically, what do you need touch for? Unless you are an artists or graphic designer which isn't most of the market you really don't need touch.
@@kaptnwelpe5322 those goodies you mention are just more points of hardware faiure on Pro laptops......the era of user uprades is going away in favour of reliability.
Great list of things no one cares about. 👍
I’d be interested in a comparison between the 14” M1 Max and the $2700 Surface with RTX 3060
I think you mean the $2800 Razer Blade 14" with RTX 3080 Max-Q. To my knowledge there is no Surface with a 3060.
Probably talking about 3050 ti
that RTX it's a gaming machine it will destroyed the M1 max, but don't forget the fact that in general the M1 max it's a way better machine and also you can see that apple it's on another level, their laptops are competing against 3 companies at the same time: NVIDIA, MICROSOFT AND INTEL.
@@christhedoc8689 by destroying you mean in gaming?
Expect a sluaghterfest
Do you guys remember the days when windows fans kept saying “MacBooks are so overpriced, slow, and hot that a $300 windows computer could beat it”
Well how the tables have turned, now not only are your computers uglier and smell of burnt plastic, but also more expansive, hotter and slower
to be fair, there are more windows laptops at several different price points that don’t smell of burnt plastic
Also, if you compare to intel, they have been using almost the same technology for cores since 2016, so yeah, macs are faster than the old and useless Intel, but they will launch new gen cores this year, maybe you should compare yo these .
@@frangarcia1699 I wanna see them give the same preference for them same power consumption and thermals
For certain tasks they are still overpriced and there are plenty of metal windows laptops out there and they are cheaper. Plus ugly is a subjective opinion
@@Incidental104 In order for them to do that they'd need to switch CPU architecture and that's very expensive and hard to do. ARM has always been better for efficiency than x86. Remember Apple has been playing the long game with x86 and has been designing their own ARM processors since the iphone 4
What are the chances that the M2 is going to make people regret getting the M1? In the coming years, is it theoretically possible, that if you keep waiting for a better Mac... You'll simply keep waiting, and never buy anything? (Meaning that it will just keep getting better every year)
I have both M1 Pro and M1 Max Macbooks, and both are so fantastic at all tasks I need to do (incl. 4k video editing) that I don’t even theoretically know what ‘better’ could look like. I have not once been limited by either of the laptops in anything I would want to do.
The first time in a long time that a MacBook had more ports than a windows laptop! This is so damn Amazing! 😄
😂
It’s so nice to be in market now for buying a Laptop. Every company is placing their best foot forward and the consumer is spoilt for choices.
I have never considered a Mac before. You are so right.
What Apple is doing with their macs is incredible.
It will be the first time that I will be buying a Macbook Pro. I have always used windows labtops but now I have just placed an order for the 14inch Macbook. I am super impressed with Apple. I never thought I would buy one in my life.
My 2015 Lenovo Yoga crapped out so will be going with the 14" M1 as my first ever MacBook! Can't wait
Being a user of both Windows and macOS, I'll be sticking with Apple for my laptop.
Looking forward to the Razor vs M1 Max.
Yeah if like to see this and xps
@@ricosrealm I have a new MacBook 16" M1 Pro base configuration (replaced an older MacBook) and a pretty hi-spec 2020 XPS desktop (now running Win 11). Both are great for what I do (photo editing, frequently with very large image files, Photoshop, Lightroom and other image apps). I love the XPS and don't feel any need to change at this time.
What I did was buy macbook pro 13 with m1 16gb unified memory and 1tb storage for web browsing, little bit of photoshop and lightroom when I take pictures on my iPhone and airdrop them into Macbook to edit and all of my college related stuff like homework and online classes. And I got windows pc for gaming. I don't like to play games on a gaming laptops because they are chunky, and cannot work long on battery without being plugged in. So I would say to have best of both worlds is to get macbook for all work/school/traveling/lighter tasks and windows pc desktop at home for gaming and maybe watching a youtube or a movie on a bigger display.
What I did was buy macbook pro 13 with m1 16gb unified memory and 1tb storage for web browsing, little bit of photoshop and lightroom when I take pictures on my iPhone and airdrop them into Macbook to edit and all of my college related stuff like homework and online classes. And I got windows pc for gaming. I don't like to play games on a gaming laptops because they are chunky, and cannot work long on battery without being plugged in. So I would say to have best of both worlds is to get macbook for all work/school/traveling/lighter tasks and windows pc desktop at home for gaming and maybe watching a youtube or a movie on a bigger display.
Can you do a "part 2" of this comparisons with more tests like Handbrake, Baldur's Gate 3 (native on M1), more "general use" battery life test and more!
And throw in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. I know it’s Rosetta but will be interesting to compare.
@@rene.s.s I believe Created Labs did that with a comparison of the base m1 pro chip versus the razer Blade. The Mac suffered compared to the Razer laptop in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. However, it outdid the Razer in most of the other tests
The choice is kind of clear for me:
* If you need a productivity laptop, both are great, but the higher quality screen, better speakers, more efficent hardware, and a $100 gap, I think the macbook it's clearly the best... Unless your workflow depends on native Windows/Linux or on the x86 architecture.
* If you need a portable gaming laptop, go for the surface one, no matter how great these M1 Pros/Max are, the fact we don't have native games running on macos or M1 architecture makes windows laptops the best option for gaming. I know developers could port their games to macs, but maybe not worth for most of them (since all serious gamers use windows), at least not now, and it could take several years from now to see a decent gaming library running natively on macos.
TL;DR
Productivity => MacBook Pro* ; Gaming => Surface Laptop
* It depends on your workflow
Agree
Agreed
Entirely correct ....but you could have said
" if you have constraints, that mean you don't have a choice - then go with the SLS. If you have fewy limitations, it is a no-brainer. You can go with the MacBook. It is a better machine for the same money." haha.
In truth, I can't argue with you.
I have an SLS and have some constraints, so I am happy with it.
I really love this PC.
I will NEVER again get a PC that doesn't have touch or pen input. I won't do it. Having those is so powerful when you need them. I don't use them, only sometimes, but when I need to, there they are, which is fantastic.
Moving the screen to watch shows etc., is fab, and when you pull the screen forward, it enhances the bass a great deal making watching things more immersive.
It is a svelt package, and I love carrying it around using it. I had a surface book2 I thought I would use until my hands were cold and stubby. I really liked using that machine. It was awesome. However, I like the SLS even more.
Problem: Battery life.
After saying all I have said above - I would contemplate moving over specifically and exclusively for battery life.
Battery anxiety is real, and I can't stand it.
This PC needs to last longer.
That is a fact.
It just does.
I get about 3-6 hrs with it, which is just not enough.
Something has to be done with Windows PCs.
Battery life is a killer.
Surface Laptop Studio was introduced a month ago, but man it looks so dated now compared with new MBPR14
MBP14 is coming from future.
It was DOA anyway with its unacceptably reflective screen. Even Dell figured out better anti-reflective coatings - at least on xps - for a few years now?
@@RedBeardedRabbit is it possible to configure Dell XPS with OLED and anti-reflective coatings?
I would love to see Apple's version of that design, floating screen like the Magic Keyboard and a touchscreen.
@@LazyPCRehab I don’t see any real advantage of such design. It will be heavier, more expensive and not so practical. It is like foldable phones, I prefer classic iPhone over any foldable device.
Damn !windows’s looking is 99% similar to the MacBook now !
Surface was trying to be their response to Macbooks, that’s why the design is very similar
LookS like the old MacBooks.
The ugly version of apple laptop. Windows jus like to copy. Monkey see monkey do. Previous MacBook Pro design come only with thunderbolt, so windows surface pro also follow with that stupid direction.
The geekbench slides say "lower is better" and specify time.
19:54 Bro you are heating the MacBook Pro with that surface so close next to it.. 😂😂😂
The hinge seems gimicky, but the microphone seemed pretty darn good on the wintel.
Both of these companies are doing great jobs right now. I really like the fact that Magsafe is back on macbook's
both of these companies??? 🤣 apple is competing against 3 companies at the same time MICROSOFT, NVIDIA AND INTEL.
@@christhedoc8689 yea but apple seems to be winning
@@iicarplaying1930 that’s what I’m trying to say lol.
@@christhedoc8689 ok
@@christhedoc8689 NVIDIA vs what?
I need to get used to that blacked-out keyboard. The Surface looks a lot like the old MacBook design minus the touchbar.
Yes, at first glance I thought it was an Intel Macbook Pro. Like so many slim laptop PCs that look like the Macbook Air ...
4:04 seems that Max really enjoy "Speaker Comparison" 😂😂
moving head with music🎶
I didn't see him in the screen reflection lol😂
Next time do the test with the surface plugged in.
Who noticed the mistake “ Lower is Better” in Geekbench 5 trst
I just got the 14" m1 pro (10 core) and one thing I miss as a video editor is eGPU support. My *5700XT is still like 50% faster* than the 16core GPU. I will keep an Intel Mac mini on deck just in case I need more power in the future.
@@bigsur370 I'm using final Cut Pro. *I Spoke too soon!* I had only tried benchmarks. I just did some prores exports in some cases it's almost 2x as fast 🤯🙌🏽💪🏽
i was thinking to have a surface, but this video gives me chills, definitely go with MACBOOK PRO M1 Pro
same...
I draw, so there is no competition. SLS basically gives me an iPad Pro and a great laptop in the same package, it's great value for the money.
Going to overclock the GPU with Afterburner for some extra performance, it does make quite a difference.
This is the PC vs Mac comparison I’ve been waiting on. Longtime surface user and I’ve been debating on switching to Mac since I recently got the Surface book 3.
I have the Surface Book 2 and I love it. Still works great. Do you find you already need an update? I was thinking of waiting for the M2 or M3 pros.
@@Davidsworldtravels You might be waiting a while, I dont except to see M2 Max or whatever they call it till 2023
@@Davidsworldtravels I think for me I want something that feels connected to the rest of my devices . I came from the surface book 1 and before that surface pro 4. The SB3 and SB1 feel exactly the same with and I can 100% get my job and school work done. But other than that computer my entire house is Apple products. I recently got a iPad Air 4 as part of a program with my school and I find the Apple Pencil way more responsive when writing notes, organic chem, and physics. I’m curious how well the iPad works in the apple ecosystem with the MacBook.
@@cavincurrin362 The iPad interacts with the ecosystem (that includes a MacBook) quite... well. The primary benefits you'll be reaping are generally associated with connectivity and ease of transition between the devices. To be more precise, you get iCloud on both devices (assuming that you use it), and can essentially transfer work between the devices easily. For instance, I use Notability on my iPad to take notes for my courses, and having access to my notes on my MacBook through iCloud syncing (Notability is also available on macOS) has been convenient. I use other Apple native apps (Calendar, notes, etc.) too, but the story is the same for those. I must however mention that the iCloud feature can be replicated (for non-native Apple apps like Notability) on a Windows machine by just using Google Drive (or other cloud storage platform of preference), albeit at the cost of minor convenience. The other benefit that might not apply to you is the capacity of using more powerful versions of applications that are available on iPadOS/iOS (the ones I use are Spark and Things 3). Having the capability of using these applications both on the laptop and the iPad (trading feature-set and speed of usage for mobility) is quite pleasant. If someone, who's indifferent towards macOS and Windows OS, asked me if getting a MacBook Pro is worth it for the aforementioned benefits, I'd be quite hesitant to respond (although I'm quite skewed towards the new MacBook Pros as they've become an extremely good package compared to the previous iterations). There is, however, one feature that I would recommend the MacBook Pro for: sidecar. It's essentially a feature that allows you to use a compatible iPad (fortunately, your iPad Air 4 is compatible, but double check just in case) as a second screen for your MacBook (wired or wirelessly). I've been using it for the last week and have been very happy with the productivity boost that it offers me. I'll mention that I'm an engineering student who also studies physics; as such, some of the things we do might overlap. Sidecar was the reason behind why I got a MacBook Pro (new gen, I wouldn't recommend going for Intel alternatives). I own a Razer Blade Pro, and before the purchase, carried it around the campus and the lack of a second monitor was quite annoying. I tried to find a software solution on Windows, but most were very unreliable and inferior compared to Sidecar (not to mention the ease with which you can start Sidecar on macOS) I suppose Focus deserves a mention too as it's been quite convenient having it activate across all my devices, but it is a very small benefit.
I've got both a Surface Book 3 and a Macbook Air M1 (With Windows running under Parallels). The Macbook Air's a great portable machine but the fonts aren't as clear on my external 27 in Dell Ultrasharp as they are on the Surface Book 3. It's subjective but I also strongly prefer the keyboard on the Surface Book 3. The Mac trackpad is better but the Surface Book 3's is perfectly fine. I also miss the Surface's touchscreen and Windows Hello on the Mac.
Great comparision (apart from where you said 'about 95W' when you meant 'about 95C'!)
It's amazing that the Mac in Cinebench is giving +50% more performance at 50% of the power
- that's a 3x in Perf/W !
I am wondering if they will push the clocks higher with more power consumption for the Desktop versions of the M1 Pro & Max...
15:51 you must be damn busy if that 1.9 seconds is going to be worth $100
Waiting patiently for you guys to make the M1 Max 24 vs 32 core GPU and 32 vs 64GB of RAM comparisons. This is all that is stopping me from purchasing today, can't wait!
Still waiting on delivery for those! :) hope to make them soon!
@@MaxTechOfficial Looking forward to it! :)
This comment 🔥
I have also been waiting for the video.
Max Tech is the best at comparisons.
Is it also possible to compare 32 core GPU with 32 GB RAM vs 32 core GPU with 64 GB RAM ?
Prolly on 3nm node else it might melt cause of heat on 5 or 7 nm
I like how people kept mentioning the surface book and its 1080p camera when complaining about the notch on the MacBook, when in reality the quality difference between the two 1080p cameras are insane. Ofc, would have preferred it to have no notch, but you can't really deny that the MacBook is just vastly superior thanks to the notch.
Always run everything in 16 : 10 resolution and no more notch… screen by the notch won’t be used.
@@MissyMalaprop I have the 16" and it's almost impossible to notice the notch, that area on macOS remains unused for years. I thought it would suck but it just doesn't matter. The screen is so big that the menus are all visible to the left, and the status icons to the right, with room to spare. Even in Final Cut Pro or PhotoShop (or similar) the menus are never so many that they reach the notch. Wouldn't recommend scaling things up big on the smaller 14" though 😢 RIP anyone with bad eyes and a 14" doing pro app work
really you think the camera on the Mac is insanely better? I can't see any difference. As probably 99% of the people in this world. And the Surface microphones are a lot more clearer.
I’m a mac user, but those microphones surely sound better on the Surface.
@@MissyMalaprop They should have a system preference for desktop, "notch" or "no notch".
just a note: the thermal tests are probably off in favour of the surface laptop as the macbook has a black keyboard whereas the surface is silver and grey. black absorbs way more heat and thermal cameras often have a hard time figuring out temperature on metals because of their reflectivity.
That’s a really good point, and the same is probably true when comparing to older MacBooks as well since they didn’t have a black keyboard backing. I was wondering why the new ones seemed to be running hotter even when they weren’t doing that much work (at least considering how powerful they are)
the Mac is a beast. I only wish game companies would just port some games as native to the Mac. That surface is almost there though when it comes to working. Like the way the screen can be hinged in various angles.
Don’t lose hope yet, it’s the richest company in the world, I’m sure it’ll do something about it
I just got the base 3050 SLS since it's $400 off. $1700 for the model (in video) vs the $2700 model with 32gb ram and 1tb storage. I was originally going to get the iPad pro but didn't like the idea of being limited to the app store. Works perfect whether I'm signing docs, playing games or sketching a new idea. I'm also replacing the slow windows m.2 SSD with a Samsung 970.
I am enjoying mine as well. It fits my usage perfectly, note taking with pen and occasional gaming
Did you get round to replacing it? Was the procedure easy?
@cornflake it's been about a year but I recall it was pretty straightforward after locating all the screws. The outer metallic trim is kinda thin so you have to be careful to not wrinkle it. I'd just suggest having some extra mounting tape or rubber cement on hand for all the trim pieces.
Can you please test the battery of the M1 Pro vs M1 Max on the 14 inch? Please include tests that aren't GPU-intensive (like web browsing), since it's pretty much a given that the M1 Max will use more battery during GPU-intensive tasks
According to Dave2D, M1 Pro 14 gets 8.5 hrs so M1 Max 14 should get an hour or so less than that.
I almost nailed the MacBook battery at the end, I thought it would be at 59%. Can you do a comparison against a Ryzen processor too? It would be very interesting to compare them.
I guessed 49%
you can't compare with no others brand in terms of battery, sorry
When are we getting a fully maxed out M1 max with 64gb and a 8tb comparison to fully maxed out M1 pro
They mentioned in a reply to an above comment that they are still waiting for those
“difference of 70%” that doesn’t even make sense lol
During the stress test, you had the Surface Studio blowing hot air in to the intake of the MacBook Pro. You could see the heat trace from the Surface Studio going in to the MacBook Pro. :P
At last, a headphone jack test... been requesting for this in the comments section of the other m1 pro macbook videos. Its actually a pleasant surprise to see you use Senheiser headphones for the test. I currently mix music using the senheiser hd560s connected directly to the headphone jack of a 2012 macbook pro. The giveaway was my most realistic chance of owning the new macbook at the moment ...obviously didn't win but it was nice dreaming for a couple of days. Great review as always
Where you really satisfied with his test? When you rewatch it you can see how he holds the headphones way further away on the surface than on the Mac. I'm a music producer and a couple centimetres are enough for it to sound much quieter, so the test was basically useless the way he did it.
@@demp11 that particular test looked lame to me and I don’t know anything about music production. I think it was Brian tong who I saw once do a decent headphone test video comparing airpod max with competitors -you’d need a setup like the one he used.
@@demp11 I did notice that when I watched it first time but i think the difference in distance could be an optical illusion since he uses different hands to hold the headphones for each laptop. For the macbook his hand is closer to the camera which i think makes it look like they are closer to the mic. You could however be right that the headphones are closer but i would like to believe that @maxtech would have done the test prior to filming the video with the results being more or less the same. In terms of me being satisfied by the test, the test was obviously not detailed as you would get from audiophile reviewers like Joshua Valour and I know volume isn't everything. If you ever get your hands on one of these I would appreciate your thoughts if you could be be kind enough to share. Thanks😃
@@slowercuber7767 actually the best would be to use binaural microphones, there formt like real ears and often come as a head where you can put the headphones on
@@demp11 True. Hopefully @Max Tech would consider that in the future
When do we get the Pro vs Max version with Lightroom comparisons?
The MacBook Pro’s webcam and webcam looks and sounds like a 4K camera using a external microphone.
@Zane White this is not a joke.
I’m guessing the M1 is at 52% battery
I just got my Air on Tuesday. I’ve updated the OS to Monterey, installed / upgraded apps and watched a movie. I still have never plugged it in and it is at 60%. It’s been 40 hours. My 2019 dell precision wouldn’t have made it through the os download.
I gotta say i was impressed by the surface microphones. Was there an issue recording or does the 14" M1 have worse mics compared to the 16 inch?.
No problem, just louder artificial software tweak on surface… MacBook actually caught more detail as some test shown out there on TH-cam, if you want to get louder sound, no problem, just rise it and add an compressor.
I’m still kind of shocked that more developers have not prioritized optimizing games for the Mac. It seems like a relatively untapped market.
And Mac buyers have more disposable income. Seems like a no brainer but maybe Apple have their own long term gaming plans. Otherwise they would incentivise developers.
Games have really tight margins. So if they can only pick one platform to specialize and develop for, it’s gonna be windows. The difference from 2020 onwards is that games developed for Mac can be run on iPhones and vice versa so it’s starting to make much more sense to specialize for Apple.
I'm a bit surprised, but I think the mic pickup on the Surface is better.
It sounds like there are much more compression artifacts with the surface to my ears... but that's not really a mic but a processing issue.
Agreed; mic sounded better / clearer on the surface
Being windows users, never owned apple product I now feel I am losing out🥺🥺🥺
Next video: M1X vs Best Intel laptop
10:20 the graphs are mislablled again...
Guys I love you, love this vid, but the graphs keep coming up mislabelled
This battery life is awesome!
I tested Disco Elysium on my new 16 M1 Pro, base model. It runs smoothly on native resolution with max settings, and no fan noise at all. Very impressive. VERY. Waiting for more native games.. Looks like we finally can get some good games on mac
It's funny to me how windows copies mac so much now, even the freaking taskbar is centred 😂
Very pro video, as usual. Beware, at 10:21 your sub-title is wrong. It should be (higher is better). I've already noticed this kind of mistake is your previous videos. Great job, though 😀
Surface Laptop Studio looks like the perfect college laptop for laptop mode, gaming mode and note 📝 mode with that screen positions.
M1 macs are pretty sick, the second they get it able to run everything I'd insta buy. But It's just hard to pick it over other laptops that can do it all like work and game. I don't want a laptop for each but for thoese that fits in its a great option
The only reason i have a windows laptop is gaming, imagine the sells of the macbooks if they where better at gaming
I think Microsoft has made an excellent product. I like everything going for it. The hinge detachment, transforming to a tablet touch screen had me. The problems lies with the Intel chip itself and perhaps supplying a slower SSD. So now you have the problem of Intel inefficient CPU (repackaged, tweaked CPU from few generations ago) along with a substandard SSD. Probably to off set the GPU cost. I guess now you can clearly see what you pay is what you get. Now it doesn't seem like Mac are that overpriced after all if you break it down. Not including the time savings you shave off in a day, weeks, months rendering.
lol windows crying in the background😂
What are you talking about, MS is driving a touch screen. Go and find wacom table for the m1 macbook pro
@@Saykey20111 haha kiddo
@@Saykey20111 Yeah, a Wacom which will have much better sensitivity, much better accuracy and a hundred times better than the surface pen!! That thing is designed for illustration specifically too. I will happily take that, thanks for the advice :)
No they just keep scream… “but… but… games!”
@@MissyMalaprop Price is still a factor and upgradeability. And windows has the advantage in Engineering applications. Nvidia's RTX series also has hardware accelerated RT allowing for much faster renders in 3D applications
Hmmm: At 10:03, your graphic says “lower is better.” Is that right?!
Chart at 10:15 seems off, you verbally say Macbook is better but the chart says lower is better.
I’m buying the MacBook Pro instead after this comparison, I was originally going to buy a Surface Laptop Studio.
Same. I have always used Windows for work but now time to go back on over to Mac.
@@TheCryptonomatron yes it’s worth the price.
Ain't 1st or 2nd but got here fast this time.😌
Surface studio -i am the best here .
Mackbook-hold my beer 🍺
The perfect time for windows users to switch to Macs!!
If it wasn't for gaming, I would leave window long time ago. I hope we can have AAA games optimized for Apple ARM processors in the near future.
Why switch? I have Macs, Windows, Linux, iOS/iPad, Android… can do anything I need without limiting to one system.
I'm envious of the M1 chip and the power efficiency. But the software I need for work only runs on Windows.
No touch + pen ruins the whole laptop for me. I need the drawing capabilities. SLS basically gives me an iPad Pro (~$1000) and a laptop in single package for only $100 more. SLS is way better value for money in my eyes, regardless how nice the M1 Pro chip is.
Macs Tech on Max Tech 💪🏽
I had a Surface Book 2 and I sold that to get the M1 MacBook Air and I haven't looked back since. thanks again for all you guys do.
Intel is suing apple for bullying!
The surface is actually pretty impressive! Didn’t expect that
Yes! Slower, more expensive, worse sound, lower battery life, lower build quality, lower camera quality but with a better microphone. Impressive! Wait, what? Oh and Microsoft customer service is GARBAGE if something breaks. They have no enterprise support at all. I had one professor buy a new Surface Pro 4 back in the day, used it for one week, gave it to me, bought an Apple to replace it. Hilarious. Free Surface. We used to pass that one around to prospective buyers as a cautionary tale. Cute but we'd never buy one for actual work.
Actually the camera on normal light condition and the microphone are looks and sounds better on surface.
@@lexwaldez firstly, I disagree about the microphone. Yes, it’s *louder* but in terms of quality it wasn’t as “level” as the MacBook’s, there were parts of what Max said which dropped to a lower volume, some of it was muffled and some was slightly distorted. I’ve always said the mics on these new MacBooks are a bit quiet for some reason - but the actual sound quality is excellent.
Second, I haven’t actually (technically) used either device but we all know what a MacBook’s build quality feels like at this point. The surface looks to be pretty good, especially compared to other Windows laptops.
@@lexwaldez Microsoft is literally the choice for enterprise customers, you are just a isheep
@@thebuddercweeper no you are wrong. Also I own Both surface laptop and a MacBook Air, both of them are among the best build laptop
the only time to choose surface is if you need the tablet & pencil feature and play a lot of games.
It was mentioned that the M1 MBP CPU was better (10:10), but both diagrams state lower bars are better and the M1 bars are higher. Is this a mistake, or am I missing something?
Now Apple is giving a really good price/features ratio, amazing 🤩
That doesn’t matter. People have been buying Apple computers long before they offered anything close to a decent price/feature ratio and that was back when they cost more than $1000 less than they do now.
BASE 14’ VS BASE 16’. PLEASE.
There's no denying that the Surface is a very nice machine. But, it's hard to compete with Apple Silicon. If they can keep on improving with the M2 and M3, I think Apple will have the advantage for a few more years.
apple still has incompatibility issues
@@julianmanjarres1998 a lot people seem to forget this if you're running a suite of programs. Sure you could run parallels but not ideal
I would never consider the Surface Laptop Studio, but I was impressed by its microphone quality. Seemed louder and better than the Macbook's.
To a professional who needs the pen and touch screen capabilities of the surface.... performance of the mac book pro will not matter.
Exactly. It's weird how the fact that you are basically getting an iPad Pro and a good laptop in the same package for only $100 more wasn't worth even mentioning in this comparison. If you draw, the choice is obvious.
I think the MacBook webcam takes a slight edge. The Microsoft Mic was much louder so it's hard to tell which is better.
Edit: I guessed 52% battery, close lol. That's even with the screen ramped up, not bad.
A neat video as always! Some thoughts if I may:
1. Load up some more stressful tests in Blender. While Party Tug is great, we're splitting hairs over a second or so per frame. Throw Classroom, Gooseberry, or practically anything else for a good Blender test that takes minutes and it'd be nice to see how the machines perform.
2. Would you re-test the Davinci Resolve export without the low battery throttle? Not that I don't doubt the Mac would still win, but it would be neat to see a fair time.
3. Maybe load up a couple games that are available cross-platform (FFXIV's benchmark) or other than 3D Mark. While the 3D Mark suite is good, it's still simulating a game vs loading and engaging with a real one.
Otherwise since you cover all the awesome hardware, it'll be cool to see the mobile version of Alder Lake 12th Gen Intel since they have supposedly made some great strides against Apple and AMD! Keep it up!
Thanks for the video. Pretty thourough comparisons overall.👍 Just one thing.
In the end you ask the question, "Is it worth spending $100 dollars more for the Surface Laptop Studio rather than the MacBook Pro?" and then you highlighlight some of the differences such as cameras, performance etc., but you omit in that final summary analysis, one very critical difference: the context-conforming functionality of the Surface Laptop Studio with a touch and inking focus designed with creators who want a portable studio/drafting table tool combined with power. It is the synergy of that functionality and power that Microsoft is targeting toward a specific market of creators.
That market knows who they are. Anyone besides tech geeks who just want cool tech, and a small subset of other creators who are considering buying the Surface Laptop Studio are considering it specifically because of the adjustable display and the inking/drawing/drafting capabilities that this, as a tool, will fit into thier workflow.
When reviewers mention that functionality, or brush past it, but then conclude the review without placing the devices into the broader context of who the devices are targeted toward, without strongly highlighting the functionality within the context of the audience it is designed for and concluding with a mere "clamshell laptop vs clamshell laptop" context acknowledging only the "generic differences: performance, cameras, etc. and gloss over the true differentiator that makes the products innately and functionally different, you miss the broader context.
When done in that fashion it appears that the comparison is motivated more by a surface level "Latest form Microsoft vs Latest from Apple" rather than the more nuanced, real world and realistic - "Who are each of these products for, how does the synergy of design,, form factor and performance serve that target audience, where do the target audiences of these two devices overlap (Picture a Venn Diagram), where does each products design, form factor, performance exclusively serve a particular segment (again picture a Venn Diagram where the products don't overlap), etc.
All of these types of nuanced perspectives have to be acknowledged particularly when comparing fundamentally different products with fundamentally different target markets. We can't just highly focus on the areas that overlap (in this case clamshell laptop use) when the SLS is intentionally and functionally designed as a portable studio for art, drafting, presenting etc.
When you ask that final question, ""Is it worth paying $100 more for the Surface Laptop Studio" the answer from most of the people seriously considering this device, Microsoft's target market, who are looking at it primarily for that synergy of adaptable form factor, inking and performance, would likely answer a resounding, "Yes", since it fits a particular work flow that the strictly clamshell, non-touchscreen, inking incapable Mac Book Pro cannot meet despite its other advantages.
Analogy: If a landscaper (a type of artist🙂) is looking for the latest nicely built vehicle, with a known brand name, great build and power to use to carry his equipment between jobs - a 2021 Ford F150 Pickup might be in his sights.
Now someone can decide to compare the latest, nicely designed 2021 Porsche to the Ford F150 this landscaper is considering. They may highlight its sleeker design and how it can outperforms the F150 in going from 0 to 60 in a certain amount of time; and they may conclude the comparison focusing on the speed, sleekness, and other features while not mentioning that the F150 has space in the back to carry large equipment. The two may be the latest and greatest from each company, and they may even overlap in some areas(both can be used as commuter vehicles to drive from point A and B and drive around town), but they are fundamentally targeted at two different consumers and it is for those distinct audiences where these distinct vehicle form factors and specific uses don't overlap.
The landscaper, would buy the truck because as a tool it fits his needs and a reviewer comparing the teo vehicles must be sure to really highlight the different audiences and functionality of each vehicle, not just the areas where they overlap.👍👍🙂
Thanks again for the video.Your videos are very thourough in what they cover. Hopefully this comment will be taen to heart and we'll see some more comparisons stressing the different markets for these devices to see more clearly where the strengths in real world use for *the specific markets* the devices are made for really apply and the factors that are valued for specific target markets so that those values can be compared appropriately when measuring one device against another. Because for the target market of the Surface Laptop Studio, the adaptable form factor, touch and inking as a portable studio is something that has high value, where the performance doesn't have to be top of tbe line as long as it handles the users workflow. Adaptable form-factor/inking/touch/Performance synergy is key for the Surface Laptop Studio market market.
Just some thoughts. I'd like to hear your feedback and hope thus critical assessment isn't deleted. Lets talk.🙂👍
You nailed it. I don't understand how I needed to scroll that far to find someone pointing exactly this. Being a digital artist, the Surface laptop Studio looks incredibly valuable to me. It's a damn good laptop on top of being able to replace my Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, and make it a sexy mobile graphic tablet. The comparison just cannot be made "In favor" of the Macbook without mentionning this. The review here is only showing the Surface is very capable when fighting with the market dominating laptop, performance wise. Otherwise, to test the MacBook M1, you'd have to find his proper opponents on the market. Anyway.. Thanks OP I suggest you start your own reviewing channel :)
@@olivierleroy9432 Thanks Oliver. I’m glad the point was well received and hope varying perspectives such as this are taken seriously to offer a broader and more real world perspective of how these different devices are used, who uses them and who they are targeted toward toward.
A benchmark focused assessment with little to no stressing of the deliberately designed form factor and other distinct attributes (ie inking) provides a very narrow view of the devices and doesn’t account for the Surface Laptop Studies purposed design for a specific audience for whom that design has value.👍🙂
Thanks again. I hope your art is going well and perhaps if you have the SLS you can give some feedback on how it works for you as a tool to create your art😎👍.
The battery life difference was crazy! I did not expect the Mac to be at over 50%!
I won’t get both until the Surface Laptop Studio gets the AMD chips
I’m watching this on my OLED phone and I don’t see blooming at all on the Mac. I also love how, at the end, Max is trying so hard to not say that the Surface got demolished.
As a side note, imagine getting absolutely crushed by something that is being held back and costs less money. I wonder how the 10/16 core version would fare in this comparison. It’s still a $100 difference.
Awesome comparison Max I really respect your unbiased comparisons. The M1 is undoubtedly a performance beast and that is where it excels at. I would say, however, that unless you are a video editor the Surface is the most complete machine. Surface Studio is about versatility, it's about allowing you to use touch and pen input. If you don't care about these, the mac is better. For me however, I can imagine getting a device without touch in 2021. I'm a photographer who dables in design and a little video editing, so the Surface is perfect for me. Not to mention that I can do some side gaming on the surface as well which is a great bonus.
are you OK as photographer with display? Retina colors and black is much better on apple.. I am photographer too and deciding between these two. I am windows user.
@@jozeftengeri6197 honestly my only issue with the surface's display is that it's very glossy. Otherwise it's great. For me the macs are out of the question because I don't like Mac OS but mostly because as a photographer having a convertible with touch and pen support is miles better than just a boring laptop. I use the pen in lightroom and photoshop all the time and just normal touch for OS navigation as well.
I’m surprised you guys haven’t put Windows/Intel out of business with these comparison videos. Not even a contest. 😂
The 14 and 16" macs cost around 700 USD more than the average windows laptop with a 3070 and apple ecosystem is just good for some specific scenarios.
Cuz they're only good in photo and video editing and r overpriced like crazy
I really wanted to buy the surface laptop because of the pen support.. but ended up buying the mac simply because of the battery life and the high performance, and settled just a wacom tablet on the side. It's a shame that windows can't compete with mac. I really wanted the screen to draw on.
I need that 14” MBP in my life. Working on a old Windows laptop right now is a pain.
Nvidia has the raw power while Apple has efficiency.
Correction: The M1 has the raw power and efficiency 💀
I really like this review.. other than the display quality and ssd I really like the surface's ergonomics and graphics performance. now that I use resolve and Reaper instead of fcp and logic, I would really consider going pc
Definitely a great contest. I’d say for a digital artist, 3D designer or whatnot then the Surface is close to perfect. We’re now at a point where 14” laptops can render 4K video faster than real time but the true powerhouses in the category like the MacBook Pro 14, Zephryus G14 or Blade 14 can do it at close to twice real time. That’s insane. The Surface suffers from battery life that the MacBook and G14 excel at, but all 4 are excellent overall. Sucks they all start at £1,500 and above, but even MacBook Air and Acer Swift X with the 3050 Ti aren’t far off these if you want something light but still decently powerful at around £1,000. What a time to be getting into editing!
Any way you can share the utility/ script you are using to show CPU clocks/ power draw? Very interesting.
4:05 You can see Max vibing in the reflection of the Surface, very cool
I'm not a Windows user never been one! And I'm "computing" since the late '80s :D but trying to be unbiased, I'd go for the Mac!
Haha. "I've been using Macs for about 35 years. Never really been a Windows user. But unbiased... I'd go for a Mac." Unbiased... hilarious!
@@svcodemonkey I meant to be sarcastic :D
Great comparison. Despite the goodness of the Macbook, I'm gonna go for the Surface because I need Autodesk apps as well as digital drawing in one device.
You could get a huion pen tablet. They are less than 90 dollars and since the surface is 100 dollars more than mac it would even out.
@@AleySoundz No I need screen drawing.. pen tablets are not my thing. Even ipads won't work for me cause I need an all in one package. I'm not an Apple or Microsoft fan. I want practicality. The Apple's performance advantage is not noticeable in my daily use, so it checks fewer boxes for me.
after this I really want a Mac
Bro, have U looked at Asus laptops. I don't know why reviewers keep ignoring them. Xps 15 and Razer blades r also worth a look at
@@omsingh4478 Just do me a favour, unplug those laptops please😏
@@loki.8435 🤣🤣
@@omsingh4478 Note it bro
In coming 3-4 years mac will take over everything 😈😈😈
There is only 1 aspect in which mac is behind gaming
@@loki.8435 Lol, if ur doing anything professional 95% of the time ur plugged in bro, that's just fax m8.
@10:21 that chart says "lower is better". I don't think that's right.
The audio from the Surface's mic was louder but had that swirly processed sound.
Cameras looked similar in good light, the MBP was better in lower light.
I can't believe they actually put a 4 core cpu in such an expensive laptop. This is so bad
Thank you for the review!
would you prefer louder cooling solution?
@@ch3vr0n123 Strange argument. I recently bought a laptop with amd cpu, ryzen 7 8 cores 16 threads in just 15 watts
So it's definitely doable. The fact that intel can't pull it off is their problem
@@ivangerginov5648 if you can use more than 4 cores than amd has better otion but no optimus and quick sync .. and mostly better optimalization of aps