Probation Violation Sentencing for Horrible, Selfish Mom
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You're not hanging out with the wrong crowd. You ARE the wrong crowd.
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Amen to that!! For some people, it’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault or influence! Zero accountability!! And to bring a baby into the world that you are clearly incapable of taking care of, just to get out of jail early so you can continue using - it seems premeditated behavior to me. The behavior of an addict that is no where near ready to face facts, take accountability and take steps to get clean. She is selfish! Poor baby!!
Excellent point!
Exactly!
That's a Judge Boyd-ism. She always says something similar.
I'm a recovering addict. And their is no one else who can help someone see what it's doing to themselves and those around them. You cannot do it for your children ,your friends, your loved ones. No one except yourself. And once I finally realized that because I tried for everyone but myself for a long time. But once I finally started to do it for myself I was able to get clean and stay clean. I've been completely clean for 4 yrs now.
Yes you can...I did it for my children. I didn't care about myself, but I cared about them.
the sad thing is that addicts are very often filled with shame and self-loathing, and don’t care about themselves enough for that alone to be enough to get and stay clean
God Bless you. 🙏🙏🙏🙏Stay strong and don’t look back
I agree 💯.
Until you are ready absolutely nothing will stop you.
Exactly. I don't think anyone who hasn't been an addict will ever understand. It's never anything we want to do. We don't want to hurt people, we don't want people to be ashamed of us. But then you are so unhappy with yourself and can't stand the regret and letting everyone around you down that the only thing that makes that constant pain to stop is using. And it's not fair to anyone or ourselves but you just want the hurting to stop anyway possible.
When she decided to make that unborn baby take meth, she should have lost all rights to that child. Yes, she decided.
You’re being too easy. If you feed your unborn baby meth you should be looking at 25 to life *and* lose all parental rights permanently
That is a slippery slope. Some areas did that, that kids were taken away if hard drugs in their system. What happened next? The hospitals noticed that there was a huge drop in births where the mom was positive for drugs. Sounds good (it isn’t), but then there were a few deaths (someone tried a water birth thinking we are frogs and it’s natural to shove a baby under water just when it first needs to breath oxygen) or near deaths (life-threatening infections from cutting the umbilical cord with a kitchen knife not professionally sterilized) of infants due to DIY home births.
Sure enough, the addicts were just avoiding all prenatal care and doing amateur births at home to avoid having their drug use caught during medical care, resulting in some infant deaths.
There are a lot of unintended consequences when you make legal changes, and you have to consider those.
@@Itried20takennames Are you counting how often babies are born with some level of permanent injury, how well they do in later life, and how many of these babies grow to be addicts themselves. There is no perfect solution, but drug addicts, let alone meth addicts, just simply are not fit parents.
A strong public service campaign needs to push birth control. Not only for addicts , but the baby for benefits crowd or just women who aren't capable of raising a child. Unfortunately, the religious groups carry too much power in this country for that to take place. How many children have their lives ended by monsters who don't want them? Prevent the births to begin with!
I’m 100% certain that she is crying for herself and not the baby she harmed.
She's crying because her life is over. I would be crying too if I were staring at at least 2 more years in jail, and possibly losing all access to my kid. And we don't know if the kid was harmed. Meth may not impact a fetus that late in the pregnancy, who knows? Jails are not places to deal with addiction. How is her spending 2 more years in jail going to improve her life or protect society? The problem is addiction, not the flaunting of court orders
Both. She is crying for both of them.
No you're not.. you can't possibly know for sure what she's crying about.
She can most definitely can be crying for both herself and her child. Drugs are incredibly powerful and even the best people do horrible things when they have substance use issues. It’s a horrible vicious thing…
So so sad
Why in the hell did they not file felony child endangerment charges against her and stack them!
You need to be asking why the hell they didn’t they lock her up in rehab the minute they knew she was using? This is a failure all the way around - if an adult suffers through withdrawal & can’t handle recovery, what makes anyone think a baby can? She never should have been released from custody - danger to herself & others though democrats & feminazis don’t consider it a baby until birth so my guess is that’s why
Here is why. Some areas did that (instant and severe charges for drug use in pregnancy) and the first thing they noticed was that in a couple months, they saw a huge drop in births to moms with a positive drug screen.
That sounds good, but wasn’t, as next there were several infant deaths or complications from a rise in “home births”: one baby died because the teen parents decided humans are frogs so it’s “natural”to give birth in a bath tube, thereby keeping a baby underwater just as it needs to breathe air to the first time, or life-threatening infections due to umbilical cords being cut with kitchens scissors that weren’t professionally sterilized.
So there is the problem….you can throw all the charges at the mom, but that will also hurt babies because the drug addicted moms now avoid all prenatal and birth care to avoid the charges. And back when every one just gave birth at home, it wasn’t uncommon for 10% of moms or babies to die, which does not happen in hospital births.
The same reason you can’t be charged with what you have one you in most places for calling emergency services when someone is overdosing. Lead to people just allowing them to overdose and hoping they’d come back or at best throwing them out of a car outside a hospital and leaving them
as the judge said, The child is the victim, and she needs to understand that.
she wont.
Sometimes an addict needs help to stop.. like being locked up for awhile. It doesn't mean you don't want to..Sometimes you just can't.
She won’t! If she was capable of thinking about anyone but herself she would not have put her baby in that situation! I could never done anything to harm my unborn child!
CLEAN FOR 9 YEARS!!!!!
Woohoo! ❤
Congrats🎉
Awesome. Shows you are strong and committed. You're brain/body deserve that healthy life!
TH-cam keeps deleting my comments.
Well done.
I adopt babies/children with significant special needs from mothers who do drugs. I lost one at 3yo and one at 6yo. These were beautiful children whom could have been born healthy. Instead they got miserable and painful lives of seizures and tube feeds and hospitalizations and surgeries. Breathing through tubes and cant even maintain their own body temperature. Im glad to help these kids and love them but im angry that there is a need for me. Stop using while pregnant!! Please!
God bless you. You definitely an angel
So thankful our you are in our world. Thanks and love and peace to you, it has to be hard doing the good and watching the suffering.😊😊😊
Maybe we should make abortions free?
@@awkwardautisticare they not then? In the uk they are free but our health care is completely free I Can’t imagine having to pay to see the doctor
@@juliexx1980 No, they're definitely not free.. costs about $500 to $700. And most medical insurance won't pay for it either.
The child is the victim.
Exactly
The baby was born positive for meth, which is tragic and unspeakably disgusting, but at least the child is out of the grasp of this woman (at least for now). I can only hope that whoever is raising this child puts in every effort to ensure their life is filled with love, structure, and safety.
Yes!! She should be stripped of any parental rights bc she does not deserve them!! She did everything purposefully, including making her unborn baby a meth addict. She’s disgusting!
And the baby will love and feel safe with the person caring for it. And some judge and CPS workers will down the road give this poor child back to the mother and destroy this child. Put it back in an unhealthy environment where the child will be scared and unloved. Because of parents rights.
She needs to not have anymore children
Any more, or better still, any other.
Unless she gets clean and is doing well.
My sister had 3 boys that were all born meth addicted. They're now in my custody but they are all experiencing the effects of meth in their development. Hoping this child will be safe and free of the effects of the mother's meth use.
God bless your family
If you don't mind me asking, what are the effects?
@missusmurdermitts3758 not sure about this person in particular but in case they don't answer.... prenatal meth use increases risk of anxiety, depression, and attention disorders. It can also result in poor motor coordination, poor behavioral and executive function, and decreased self-regulation. There can also be negative effects on the heart and liver. And this is still being researched but scientists believe that prenatal meth exposure may put children at higher risk for drug use and drug seeking behavior later in life, not just due to socioeconomic factors but also because of changes in brain chemistry from the meth exposure.
I pray they make it thru this cause I have seen the effects
God bless you and those boys!! They will struggle, but they have you to help them get thru it and succeed in life. I wish you strength, peace, and love for you and YOUR boys. YOU are their real mother and they are so lucky to have you❤! Stay strong 💪. ❤
I'm a former addict was for 23 years not of meth but getting clean was the hardest thing I ever done and it takes work everyday to stay clean but it's well worth it i pray for these people its sad
Proud of you!
@@sarab548 thank you
congratulations on getting yourself clean. blessings.
Congratulations, that's great
It’s not hard to stay clean, if you can’t say no without it “being hard” then you are weak and need to reevaluate
She needs to stop crying. She's not the victim.
She’s needs to lose all parental rights of the child
The family needs to sign a legal document keeping her from see g the child ever again( most the time the family says they take care of it but it’s usually the mom)
And this woman needs atleast 5 years in prison with 5 yrs release with 3 days a week testing
Why the hell would you get pregnant if you have so much addiction in your life.
Having a child is a privilege if you ask me, if you can't take care of the child don't get pregnant!!
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Because you are on meth, you aren't thinking rationally, you aren't able to do anything proper when on it. It happens, it's a problem within addiction
Are you serious? Of course she didn't want to get pregnant...but we don't make the best decisions while we're strung out on drugs.
When you are addicted to meet you don't think beyond the day. I'm sure she didn't get pregnant in purpose. But after that she should have tried to get her act together. People can't help being addicted. This is bad this drug
I meant why would you get pregnant while in prison?
She got pregnant in jail doing a 2/3 years.
And if you got pregnant by accident then have an abortion.
I know it sounds harsh, but doing pregnancy inside a prison is bs.
She used her pregnancy to get out earlier.
It should be forbidden to get pregnant inside jail or prison.
I’m not sad for this lady. She obviously loved her drugs more than her baby. Shameful.
Addiction is an evil disease. Be careful judging others
TRULY.....alcoholics have the same indifference to others..........her choice, addiction or not..... hope her parents are better than she is good.....
I picked up 6 felonies when i was in my addiction. I needed the system to get me clean. Its now been over 10 years since ive picked up a charge, and i contribute to my community in healthcare and alcoholics anonymous.
You can always recover.
Child protective services is broken! Stop "Family Reunification" and go for "Safety Of Thee Child Until 18", with parents having to earn the privilege of seeing, visiting and finally caring for a child. Stop with parental rights for females like this
So sick and tired of the BS excuses and lack of responsibility.
Taxpayers, government and social welfares keep picking up these tabs - day in and day out. Imagine how many programs could be set out for the elderly and young children if we didn’t have this huge unnecessary burden on the system?
They don’t care about themselves and yet we are supposed to care - what?
She’s selfish and immature and needs jail and treatment.
Forced treatment doesn't work.
Are you kidding ? Jail is not an answer.
She had treatment. At least 3 times. I think they shouldn't give her a spot that could go to someone who truly wants to get clean. She doesn't.
@@douglasr.c.5622Sure it is. Keep this methjead away from her kid. She's already hurt him enough.
She is crying for herself not her baby
I am 17yrs clean from methamphetamine, and I know for a fact that I could never be in a room with it again, even now. It’s so horrifically addictive, all encompassing, and destructive. I am so so aware that I’m one of the very lucky few who managed to get clean from meth. Even knowing all that, knowing how much better my life is and how bad it was, I still get cravings and could never be around that drug or anyone who uses it again.
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Stay strong. You know your limits and make sure you aren't in a position to fail. You WANTED to be in recovery, she does not.
Every time I touch that shit it literally ruins my life. I end up in jail every. Single. Time.
Never again
You did AWESOME!!! & Its amazing that u know yourself so well! I was 1 of the only kids who never experimented growing up & ppl would say I was SO STRONG bc I could w\stand ALL the peer pressure! But I tried telling them that wasn't strength! I come from a VERY LONG line of addicts on every side of my family tree & my childhood was ruled by addiction & all I ever saw was the HORRIBLE negative sides! So, I knew there was a very good chance I'd end up the same way. The ONLY thing saving me was that I'd never tried anything & as LONG as I didn't touch that line in the sand & NEVER tried it Even a little, I was safe. Bc u can't really want or crave or become addicted to something You've never had. So it wasn't strength that made it easy to turn down, it was ABJECT FEAR! But regardless, my point is, u know yourself & u set boundaries bc u don't want to ever be put back in that position! That's GOOD! Proud of you! 💖💕💖
How about never touching meth since it is known how addictive and harmful it is, shame on her for making a newborn an addict.
I don't understand when she said she didn't have the craving to take the drugs but did it anyways. I read a poem called "My name is Meth" and it is terrifying. There is something very evil about this drug.
You are right, i haven’t used since the 80’s and the temptation is always there. But you have to surround yourself with good people and family. Stay away from situations and places where it could be.. total life change..
It all drugs- meth, heroin, crack, even marijuana. Once you put substances into your body, they change the natural equilibrium in your brain (reducing some chemicals, making others go haywire and produce too much, etc). You will never ever get back to exactly how you were “before,” but with time you can come to a new sense of normal and the imbalance becomes much less severe.
It is this chemical imbalance in the brain rhat makes it so hard for addicts to stop using, especially if they’ve been using for a long time (years/decades, not just months). Even after they have been detoxed, those new patterns are still wanting to be fed- the natural chemical equilibrium is still thrown off, and now it’s bandaid (the drugs) have been removed too.
Anyway, my basic point was to explain why it’s not just an issue of self-control or having more willpower. That would be akin to taking a child at 5/6/7 years of age who has ADHD, putting them on Adderall or Ritalin for 10+ years, then taking them off and expecting them to “act normally” as an adult. Their brain has been altered to expect and need that drug to feel “okay”, and removing the drug doesn’t just solve the problem.
Inpatient long-term behavioral therapy can really help, but not everyone has the money or the resources to spend 12-18 months dedicated to nothing else but giving their brain time to relax and reset in a safe and controlled environment. It’s absolutely heartbreaking how these drugs have changed our society and the waves of pain they spread throughout entire families and the whole community. 😢
Just like guns…they have to agency. They are just things. SHE is horrible. The drug is inert.
@@DocDirtrat9472 Thank you for sharing!. So happy that you won the battle!
@@DocDirtrat9472Great job😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I was born two and a half months early because of the same thing. God rest her sole, my mother did the exact same thing to me. I have forgiven her for this but I spent three months in a NICKU fighting for my life because of it. I died at birth and just after twice. Selfish is a perfect word for this.
Do judges not understand addiction? Meth addiction is hard to overcome. The baby should have been protected by keeping mom in jail. Dub ass system.
Judges have to abide by the law and leave their personal opinions aside. If judges could judge someone by their actions using their personal opinion it wouldn't be a fair trial.
@@robertmaples7246the court chose to give her a bond and allow her to bond out to give birth. They were trying to be kind so she didn’t have to give birth in prison, but it was a mistake. It was definitely up to the judge and court to let her out. She was serving a two years sentence and got out early not on parole or released because she completed her time, but released on bond.
She shouldn't have gotten that baby back until she showed she was clean with clean UA's for at LEAST a yr.. but im not keen on giving methheads baby's to care for. They can't even care for themselves.
I had a good friend who became addicted to meth. He died of an overdose. I can’t imagine a worse drug to OD on. To be hyper-aware while you’re dying. I lost friends and family to opioid OD’s, and at least they just peacefully went to sleep.
This court failed that child! The safest place was in that jail. I really don't understand why she was released prior to the birth. She's a drug addict, in jailed for drugs after being on probation for drugs. She was pregnant when she broke her probation and was jailed for doing meth. How did they not see this as a probability? She should have ONLY been released if she was going into a program. This is as much on the court as it is the mother, in my eyes.
😮😡 completely selfish person. A generation destroyed by drugs
Women, who are pregnant and taking drugs, should be sent to prison immediately. Until that child is born, they stay confined. I don’t feel sorry for her, I do feel incredibly sorry for her child. She sits there in court and cries, those are tears for her herself. I just believe, any woman, who’s a drug addict and pregnant, should not be given bond, until that child is born. They simply cannot be trusted to do the right thing. We have to start protecting these children and getting them out of the hands of drug abusers.
How about to treatment. I could get behind mandated treatment . You can’t just put pregnant people in jail. If you had any real idea who all of the addicted are you would be shocked and humbled. , You probably do know many addicted people, but your sharp opinions would keep them from sharing with you.
@@pamelaliegh the way, we’re handling it now, does nothing. Treatment centers cannot confine people there, a prison can. I don’t think they should be put in with general population, they should have their own section of the prison, and be given treatment. I don’t believe they should be treated like a lawbreaker, but I do believe they need to stay there, until that child is born. My point is, the number one priority should be the child. When children are born addicted, not only are they born addict, but they have mental disabilities and physical disabilities, that last a lifetime. Society ends up taking care of those children, because a lot of them cannot function and support themselves. Addiction is awful, but that doesn’t mean you get to destroy somebody else’s life.
@@pamelalieghthe vast majority of people go to treatment before going to prison. If you actually paid attention to what the lady admitted to in the video she admitted to going to rehab 3 times. It’s not like she hasn’t had the chance to get treatment. I’m sure when she was released from prison she could have entered treatment instead of using.
More drugs in prison! Wake up!
@@pamelaliegh I didn't see her say all pregnant women or all addicts. But if you are actively using and pregnant you should be held until you give birth. Preferably with treatment and a solid safety plan for once she is released. Parenting classes. Relocation services FAR away feom their normal using location. But no chance after chance. ONE dirty test or 1 areest....the kid goes up for adoption. They jave the right to a safe home. If they can't provide it then they forfeit their kid forever.
This is devastatingly sad. Addiction is horrible. It destroys the lives of everyone in its orbit. I’m not trying to say she’s some kind of victim or taking her side. It pisses me off! It’s all so tragic.
Well it's nice to see someone with even a little bit of compassion. People don't end up strung out on drugs because they've had a great life and are mentally and emotionally stable.
@@awkwardautisticcompassion for her left when she chose to use meth 3 days before giving birth‼️😤
@@awkwardautisticit’s possible to have sympathy for addicts while also thinking they need to be accountable for their actions. This wasn’t a victimless crime.
@@awkwardautistic No one wants to be an addict.
IlYou are right but her kids need to be kept safe...away from her.
The lawyer said that the court was 'gracious enough' ... stupid enough wouldn't have been more truthful. Why didn't she get escorted to the hospital? Knowing she's a method addict? It's not that gracious and I find the court responsible for this huge failure to protect that baby .
I met my step-son when he was 5. He was born with fetal alcohol syndrome, and his mom was so embarrassed about it that she'd lie to the professional who could help him. He had severe learning disability and behavioral disorders, but once we got appropriate help for him it was life altering.
Poor kid just wanted to be "normal". He won a ton of money in the state lottery a few years back and I was really happy for him. If anyone needed a break in life it was him!
Gosh, I hope his biological mother doesn't find out he won money. Thanks for stepping up.
It’s very sad but this lawyer needs to quit feeling sorryfor her
That lawyer is definitely effing her. /js
I am a former officer….. in an academy class they showed ingredients from a drug bust so we would know what to look for and I just can’t believe people put that crap in their bodies.
If we are going to release people early for good time or other ridiculous reasons, then judges need to consider that when sentencing so that they actually do the punishment intended. The baby is the real victim here and thankfully she won't have access to the baby for awhile. She shouldn't get the baby back when released. Let this baby grow up in a safe, loving family so they don't have to deal with the dangers and instability that a meth addict lives with. If a family member has custody, I hope it's someone who this woman has zero access to.
blame our justice system that is 100% flawed and it needs a re-work STAT.
@anamegoeshere Blame CPS too... they believe it that family reunification that rarely works out well for the children.
The Judge carefully reads through HER rights, where are the RIGHTS OF THE CHILD
She hangs out with the wrong crowd? SHE is the wrong crowd!
They should put her in prison until she's too old to have another child
I genuinely believe those tears are real. Simply too little too late. She (and her baby and everyone around her) will live with the consequences of her actions far past any prison sentence they can give her. She’ll live with shame and guilt forever whether she wants to admit it or not, and thus, the cycle of addiction continues.
Yes, but the baby will now also have to live it.
My heart goes out to this woman, her children, including that newborn baby, and all those who love her. I used to feel enraged at stories such as this, then my younger brother (who I adored) died of heroin overdose. She definitely needs to pay for her choices, and she will for the rest of her life even after her incarceration. As will her babies. It’s heartbreaking. How do we as a society protect our little ones from these dreadful choices? 😢
@@bonniemartin5445I am so profoundly sorry for your loss. 😢💔
They are very real. She is crying because she is going back to prison.
Yes....
Poor baby, i hope CPS gives the baby to a loving family 💘
My mother worked with a woman who had two adopted children (around 4 and 6) who were born positive for meth. Sometimes I'd help watch the kids (with their mom nearby). I finally told my mom I didn't feel comfortable watching them, because I didn't know how to handle their challenges. They were nonverbal and in diapers, frequently had violent outbursts, and one had a feeding tube. But that wasn't the scary part - it was the fact that they both had uncontrolled seizure disorders and would have spontaneous seizures several times a day. At 12 years old, I wasn't equipped to take care of these little ones.
With tons of support, therapies and medications, the older one was able to attend school but will never live independently. The older one eventually had to be permanently hospitalized because her medical needs were too severe and unstable.
One of the reasons studies on illicit drug use in pregnancy/babies are so limited is because women struggling with addiction may also have little to no prenatal care, be using multiple substances, and have other health problems like malnutrition or chronic infection. With so many uncontrolled factors it can be impossible to pinpoint the specific cause of any problems the baby may have.
It's a really, really crappy situation 😢.
You should never have been put in that position. I care for those kind of kids for a living. Not specifically drug affected babies but they require specially trained caregivers to care for them. God what if one died in your care!! And it happens. Kids with seizures often die as a result from a seizure.
How sad the effect addiction has on everyone in your path. This poor baby!
Yet another example why some people should not have children 🤬
Yet some people and states are pushing forced births. That's not going to create a healthy population.
Try teaching that insight to the forced birthed people.
She's not sorry for what she did, she's sobbing because she's worried she can't find meth in jail,
Notice how quickly those tears dried up???
Neuroscientist here. Specializing in neuropharmacology and addiction. Want to address some of the inaccuracies in the channels statements. 1) the reason there are no “high quality” studies assessing the teratogenic effects of psychostimulants is because it would be unethical to perform those experiments. Best we can do is look for prior methamphetamine users and observe how their pregnancies are different from non-users. But that makes it very hard to say definitively that the drug is the culprit. Environments with drug use also have many other factors that could contribute to severe developmental delays. There are some animal studies examining these effects directly but we need to be cautious translating them to humans. 2) All drug effects are dose dependent. A single exposure would not be sufficient to produce any teratogenic effect I know of. 3) please stop stigmatizing addicted populations. It’s difficult to imagine what addiction
is like. The best subjective experience I can imagine is that of profound hunger. Everything you do, think, and feel in those moments are 100% about identifying and consuming the drug. This is an intractable state without appropriate medical intervention and we as a society seem unwilling to fund it. Therefore, making this a moral deficiency worthy of judgment is profoundly detrimental. Naturally we can’t fathom her behavior because we’ve never been compulsively dependent on a substance.
Well said sir !
I agree with you so much. People here write as if addicts just get up one day and shrug and say, "I think today I will throw my life away on drugs." It is never like that. Such things are implied by people whose lives are going fairly steadily. They just have no clue about why people become addicts. The mental hell which people are desperate to block out, even to the point of losing everything - life, health, children, freedom. It isn't a "simple choice." If that was so, why are there millions of alcoholics, and why do millions of people still die due to smoking? JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED.
Thank you for providing some semblance of sanity and reason through your explanation. Society would be far better off if everyone were capable of viewing this affliction through your lens instead of the common shame-based, tar-and-feather opinions displayed here.
@@thisperson5294 Society would be better off if we came to terms with the fact we're biochemical machines and do not "choose" our path for better or worse, rather the path has already been laid before us.
@@claudesylvanshine6551A-fucking-men. We are EXACTLY what our nervous system decides we are in any given moment.
NO TEARS FOR FEARS, ONLY FOR GETTING CAUGHT!!
She wins the academy award for best actress in bs crying role, she was on drugs her entire pregnancy, now all of a sudden she's sorry, she knows her druggie was is going to jail and she's crying because no drugs allowed she can't get her daily fix
You can get plenty of drugs in jail
I hung out with a girl who had lost custody of her son because drugs. She finally got him back but she hadn't quit. Watching her destroy her hair to pass drug tests through DFACS and watching her son having gone from a stable foster family who wanted to adopt him was painful to say the least. Her own daughter turned on her for not letting him go. Her son hated her. Drugs destroy more than the person doing them. They destroy who you were as a person and they destroy the people around you. It destroys everything.
Anyone who says drugs, or being a drug addict is a victimless crime is a moron. I don't have enough time to comment all the ways their addiction affects their families, childfen, spouses, work associates, and the general public.
I've never heard anyone say that.
Me either.
Nobody says that😂
Who says that!!! 😮
Don’t cry now should have thought about that before hitting the pipe should be a child abuse charge an never be allowed t see that baby again
Jail and Prison absolutely doesn't nothing for addicts. She should do jail time, but on her release go straight into rehabilitation. Be on probation/parole for two years. Repeat, offender sigh… Not much you can do for them.
a combo of both eventually worked for me. however, looking at her, i completely agree with your comments
Who is advocating for the kids?????!!??!!! How many of her children has to go through it? Please keep away from those babies…❤
Bringing life into this world and knowing how much suffering there will be. Lock her away forever.
I only used meth once... for 15 years.😮
You're so right, Meg..we rarely *ever* see an upward departure from sentencing guidelines. My heart just breaks for what this precious baby was subjected to before being born.
My ex did 9 years for heroin. He got out, we got together and he did great for 6 years. Had a great job, got his degree. He started using again and now he’s in jail in Florida facing 40 felonies and I REALLY wish I could find his hearings
Worthless. It's a very good thing that I'm not a Judge.
She needs drug and mental health in jail.
Agreed
@@debbie4503 what about the child dayumm her
in jail she may receive a few classes, but what would be ideal is 30 days detox and 6 months intensive therapy at a woman's center for addressing dual diagnosis. She's been on meth 10 plus years and her chances are slim unless she gets help on multiple levels.
@@carlariggs525 the child is the victim they gave her 100 chances my god
@@DayuMMTV victim**
That baby would be better off without this mother!
It’s about the CHILDREN! They won’t have a chance if she is allowed to have anything to do with them!😢
I have worked in the area of pre births, with drug abusing parents. I do not condone what she did, in fact I have been to court to remove at birth. But giving moral judgments of her, shows the lack of knowledge of understanding of addicts. I worked in child protection for 33 years. The child always comes first.
I have NO PROBLEM passing moral judgement.
It isn't that she's an addict. It's that she chose to continue using and didn't relinquish her kids willingly. She can use if she wants but she can't have her kids if that is her choice.
This is horrific. And it makes it very hard to be sympathetic when she was in jail and presumably clean. So she left that jail with a clear mind, knowing she was heavily pregnant and would be delivering still, and went and used. It’s not like she was out on the street and addicted to heroin and unable to stop due to withdrawal - still NOT okay but a very difficult place to be in when you’re dealing with withdrawal and craving, especially when going into withdrawal can harm the baby too. But this situation is just particularly horrible. This poor baby. And she deserves to face the consequences of her actions. Presumably she chose to continue this pregnancy and that means taking responsibility for an innocent life.
You shouldn't get points for getting clean off of one drug while continuing to use others.
It doesn't matter that you stopped drinking and quit using Heroine, a drug is a drug!
Not exactly true, pot is a drug, so is alcohol, they are nothing alike. Funny how someone can be so poorly informed but yet so judgey.
And programs will tell you that you're only sober if you're clean and using NO substances.
Talk about being uninformed. Yeesh.
Yes, different drugs have different effects, but they all alter brain function.
Quitting one while continuing with another is still using.
@@notme2dayyou American?
@@lesliemingo3688 So what? Coffee is also a drug, and playing violent video games can cause a release of adrenaline that also affects brain function, so what? The problem is using addictive drugs that cause degredation in our lives.
Quitting something very harmful, while using something far less harmful isn't the end of the world. Have you ever seen how much coffee they drink at an average AA meeting?
Holy crap, this is in my hometown. I am between Judge Middleton, and Muskegon. I need to look up the schedule. I could go to some trials and be able to report all the stuff we don't see.
I can give you a study. It ain’t good for the baby. Common freaking sense.
Addiction is a F N beast 👺 I am thankful and lucky to only cigarettes 🚬🚬🚬.be thankful people not judgmental
Let's all take a minute and laugh at Nancy Reagan for her silliness of "just say no".
I disliked that woman with a passion. !!!!!!!!
The war on drugs was a joke and our government has funded cartels for decades.
Now the cartels have moved onto human trafficking... even more profitable than drugs.
What's sad is you have no idea where that comment came from. Try learning before you speak. Its less embarrassing for you.
@@Doormanswift Kinda doesn't matter where it came from since she pushed that useless platform.
@@Doormanswift it doesn't matter where it came from. She made it famous. It doesn't change the fact that it's stupid and didn't work. You're making a distinction without a difference.
Something I really appreciate about your channel is how you create your own content with the videos you share. Your input and comments are based on you doing your homework and adding well researched insight to the matters at hand. Appreciate the work.
What a sad story
I'm a recovering addict. I had 12 years clean and then lost my son and then got lost in addiction because I couldn't handle it. I'm not using that as an excuse I intentionally went back to using because I could not handle the emotions that came from losing my son and instead of going to therapy I chose drugs. I made the wrong choice. I don't blame anyone but myself for that. I spent 7 years in my addiction because I made the wrong choice. I now have 18 months clean. And I tell you right now coming back that second time was harder than getting cleaned the first time. But I have a strong support network and I'm not doing it alone. It's never easy and my drug of choice was meth. I spent a long time blaming everything except for myself but that was the addiction speaking. I fought really hard these last 18 months I've worked really hard these last 18 months and there are some days that it is just as hard as day one. But I choose not to give up everything that I've gained in my sobriety. My family my daughter my husband my freedom. All of that is worth fighting for. So I choose to work just as hard for my sobriety as I did for my addiction.
The courts do let you have custody. My former step-daughter has 4 children. Kids are taken away and returned, taken away and returned. Vicious cycle. And now she collects a fat disabilty check on them because they all have issues. Why? Because the system feels children love their parents. Only children are forced to be with the people that abuse them. As an adult if you are abused you never see that person again. Abuse your pet, they take them away. So we know how the law feels about children. Its disgusting.
I had a sister like this woman... she drank and drugged until her esophagus ruptured then shoved alcohol and drugs directly into her feeding tube until she weighed 53lbs and died. Drugs and alcohol are evil powerful things 😭😭😭
I'm so sorry. 💔
I am very sorry for the loss.
She doesn't deserve those tears
Who are you to say that? You know nothing about her life or why she's crying.
Methamphetamine abuse has been a thing since the end of World War 2, when all armies issued it to their troops. *Yes, every one in WW2 was tweaking balls.*
So 16 million in a 70 year period (give or take) doesn't strike me as too high. The 2.5M figure is more concerning imo.
The upward departure was more lenient than she deserves.
I walked away from it 4/19/2011! Never went back. It can be done. I used over half my life!
I'm so proud of you. ❤
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My wife is a labor and delivery nurse. Sadly, meth addicted babies are not an uncommon occurrence.
Amphetamines are used to treat ADHD, I take it specifically for this condition.
That's the only right way to use it that I know of but obviously medical amphetamine and methamphetamine are different.
Not necessarily any difference between prescription meth and illucit meth, although illicit meth is possibly adulterated and the dose isnt as accurate, otherwise its the same thing. Literally is chemically the same.
Never heard if ADHD meds being made with lighter fluid or propane so.. sure, sure... chemically the same.
@@miketyson1717not true
@@miketyson1717You are completely wrong. They are not ANYTHING alike.
That is not the same drug. Like legit a completely different situation. Never think because you take a med PRESCRIBED for adhd or whatever that you are taking meth. You are definitely not.
yay!! FINALLY a hearing that is NOT on Zoom!! I wish they would all go back to "in person" hearings. thanks!
I have an adopted daughter with mental and physical disabilities due to her parents use of meth…she will never live a life like most people, she will always need someone to care for her….all from meth, and the saddest part is she didn’t ask for this life….her parents ‘chose’ this for her.
Lock her up for 10 years. What a joke of a mother. Poor baby.
To answer your question on the statistics, if the stats include all amphetamines, ADHD medication would be a proper use case if used as prescribed. Doctors used to prescribe meth as well a long time ago but I don’t believe that is done anymore.
They also used to prescribe heroin in a bottle lol.
I hope she gets the help she needs.
Half of my neighbors are currently using it. I loathe the neighborhood.
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As bad as this is it could have been a lot worse. If she wasn't in jail for a substantial part of her pregnancy she probably would have been using daily.
That makes her actions worse in a way. She wasn’t actively using but unable to stop despite getting pregnant due to being in active addiction and dealing with withdrawals, etc. She had been clean and knew she would be delivering yet goes out and uses.
@@skinsciencebymirathere is no such thing as prescription methamphetamine. There are prescription amphetamines - which are not the same chemicals
How many people receive real treatment in jail? How many use meth while in jail?
Most of the jails I've seen have no programs for addicts. From what I've heard, I've never been to jail long-term, just for a couple of nights, it's not that hard to get drugs in jail and prison. she should get a sentence and then go straight from Prison into a program for addiction. Period
@@maureencarstens8453that is not true. Most states now have felony drug courts that is literally focused on treatment. The lady admitted she had gone to many drug programs and went to rehab 3 times. She had many opportunities and could have gone to rehab as soon as she was released. Sometimes people make the choice to do drugs. It’s not everyone else’s fault.
I just don’t understand the drug usage that is so out of control. I worked with detoxers for 3 years and then got out of it because it just wasn’t for me. No sooner did we get someone detoxed and release them from the hospital and within a few months they were right back. Sometimes within a week. A few came back in body bags. Makes no sense and I felt like it was wasted time and effort which is exactly why I just couldn’t do it anymore. That and the violence / aggression/ manipulation they think nothing of just to get drugs from you.
My daughter went through the same thing.
She was working her way through college to become a psychologist at a rehab hospital. Got so burned out and changed to nutrition and exercise.
Me personally... if you never try drugs, you're not going to have addiction issues. I just don't understand why someone would even try them to begin with KNOWING just how addictive this crap is?!
Detoxing is one thing but you have to address the underlying issues that caused the drug use... If you don't they will never get better.
@@michaelkaiser85 I agree 100 percent. Only problem is once they detox they don’t think they need that and the majority of people will be right back to drinking and drugging. You can’t force anyone to stay clean.
Something that should be noted is that it’s incredibly common nowadays that when a person is put on probation for drug offences, they are either transferred to Felony Drug Court which is an intense drug treatment program, or, required to participate in in/out patient treatment. As and addict myself, 4 years sober, a universal truth about addiction and recovery is accountability - only the addict can get sober. I certainly hope she makes the choice and puts in the life long effort to turn her life around. At some point you become the ‘bad person’.
The crime was putting this pregnant addict on probation in the first place. Wtf they THINK would happen??!! If I was a lawyer, I'd sue that court on behalf of that baby.
She needs to be given something to cry about.
I can tell you what happens to babies born on meth. My adopted daughter has seizures, spinal bifida, heart problems, pacemaker at the age of 16, low energy , behavioral issues and so so many more!! Her seizures started 15min after she was born! Don’t do meth
When you want to screw up your life its on you but don't put it on a innocent!!!!
Why hasn't she been offered drug court or rehab?
I’m sure they have offered her those things. Usually prison isn’t the first punishment.
I feel she is crying at the realization that she can’t get drugs anymore since she’s going back to jail . Not for her baby .
I’m a recovering alcoholic with 29 years sobriety. At the worst of my drinking, and I had a pretty bad rock bottom, I would have begged a judge to have kept me locked up… and though I do have a belly I’m definitely not a pregnant woman. Her actions are pure selfishness.
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I am 15 years clean. It’s been the hardest time but it’s possible. Good job to those that are clean and good job to those who have started that process.
Good morning. Thank you for caring for these children.