@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us How? He can’t even explain who is the State in this case? The Judge gave up on him and was told “qhuba”. I can’t wait for the Judgement. It will be hilarious.🤣
Mntungwa this guy is winning today come rain come sunshine he argues with amazing passion justike Adv D Mpofu SC and he is mentored by him...hence he is so passionate and forceful...phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo you are on the right track....bazakugoba....it has been a long time hearing a lawyer arguing so forceful quoting law and cases....with such a high pitch voice....that judge izakugoba today....28/11/2024
Where is the NPA… that was her frustration. The rules are clear on how you bring or cite parties of interest before court. The approach should have been a plea to cure the defect of not having the party there, not persuasion on the merits
@ I get you, in my book that’s a technicality that does not dispose of the case. If the NPA/State didn’t not complain, why is she complaining? The State, not the NPA is a party in these proceedings. Therefore there is no need to cite them, although citing them would have done no harm. For me her complaint about the NPA became weakened when she started to complain about citing of the correctional services. She clearly misconstrued the enquiry
Council, do not lose sight of what Bester has done, and will continue henious acts still to come. Remember that we have to protect the law abiting citizens. You probably have a groding family. There was a dead body that was burnt, .... a mother is still crying. But you are fighting for a criminal... what for,? The money ? Eish.
Wow, thanks for standing illitated, sister. I think the judge is actually trying to make him stronger. She Considered that he is young and still have to plead his case before real hostile Judges. I only see a mother trying to push his son. I hope he sees the love in her heart. As for me I can't wait to clarify with my professor whether the legal argument can be argued on principle or facts only. I hope other law students enjoy this game of wits as I have.
I am eager to hear someone who understands what Adv Lerato was upto here. I certainly couldn't follow. Are these civil, criminal or Constitutional Court proceedings..?
There was a stage when the judge said "Mr Moela just carry on coz whatever i say to you seems that they do not make sense"....she was actually washing her hands...realizing that this guy is standing his ground right or wrong....Stand your ground Mr Moela stand your ground....28/11/2024
Just like me....this is a product of Adv D Mpofu SC and he argues with amazing passion and quotes the law ...he is definitely winning this case come rain come sunshine....yiBoss le....he is just like his mentor....The judge will bow to his direction...28/11/2024
@ Irrelevant…you can’t ask a question and interject the answer by asking more questions and interject those answers too…Emotional immaturity for a judge.
The Judge is now drawing the basic lines for the case to proceed experience is everything, u Adv umfake la ngqondo yase Nkandla lo mntwana, akanawphinda alunge.
This guy Moela will win hands down come rain come sunshine...he argues with such passion like Adv D Mpofu SC.....he is on the right track and this is his day ...phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo you are a ⭐....this is your day...28/11/2024 the judge will come to your level Mr Moela....press hard my brother press...
The AI is really making everything to be a mess , the young man seems to be confused by its interpretations...hence he is lost in the midst of confusion...
Dali taught this guy the best way to argue...he argues with amazing passion he is quoting the law and the constitution....he will win hands down...come rain come sunshine he is winning...the judge will bow to his direction....he is so persuasive...Phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo... ungaphel'umoya...28/11/2024
This Judge will feel Adv Moela...this is a product of Adv D Mpofu SC and he argues like his mentor with amazing passion...whether right or wrong...28/11/2024
If he can lower his voice he may come oright...he sounds like he is shouting at the judge and he at times interrupts the judge....but carry on Mr Moela you will win this case the judge will turn around and rule in your favour she is just playing around she will come to your level ...You can't be wrong after such a careful research with case law and statutes....phez kwakhe Mr Moela ....this is your day my brother....ungaphel'umoya....U are on the right track but they misunderstand you...28/11/2024
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What law is this guy following..The Judge is right
The judge schooling this guy on basics 😂
The opposite lawyer only needed a few minutes to bury Bester's lawyer.
Thabo Bester must stop waisting his money on lawyers and just stay in jail.
He will be out on parole after 25 years
@@PreciousLefutswe ... that is if he will get any... by the look of things?🥹🥹🥹🥹
He will stay in jail but first he must tell who he was working with except Nandipha
Eish! My guy got derailed by the Judge. Mpofu taught him all the wrong things. “Ignore the Judge and do what you want” Banna! 😅😅😅
😂😂😂you guys mara
This guy is winning come rain come sunshine...28/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us How? He can’t even explain who is the State in this case? The Judge gave up on him and was told “qhuba”. I can’t wait for the Judgement. It will be hilarious.🤣
Thabo Bester's lawyer seems to be very lost
Mntungwa this guy is winning today come rain come sunshine he argues with amazing passion justike Adv D Mpofu SC and he is mentored by him...hence he is so passionate and forceful...phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo you are on the right track....bazakugoba....it has been a long time hearing a lawyer arguing so forceful quoting law and cases....with such a high pitch voice....that judge izakugoba today....28/11/2024
What a circus !!
This case will dragg on untill kingdom comes !!!!
Let it drag so that he's money dry out buy the time found him guilty no money for bribe
The judge is rude to counsel. What kind of a comment is “he’s getting excited” ??? Come on
She is very rude and disrespectful to the counsel
Where is the NPA… that was her frustration. The rules are clear on how you bring or cite parties of interest before court. The approach should have been a plea to cure the defect of not having the party there, not persuasion on the merits
And when this kind of judge appears before JSC, they themselves become jokes. They get lost when asked simple questions
@ I get you, in my book that’s a technicality that does not dispose of the case. If the NPA/State didn’t not complain, why is she complaining?
The State, not the NPA is a party in these proceedings. Therefore there is no need to cite them, although citing them would have done no harm.
For me her complaint about the NPA became weakened when she started to complain about citing of the correctional services. She clearly misconstrued the enquiry
No. She has been very patient with him. Try her best not to make him look incompetent in front of the public.
This kid is taking chances.
A simple procedure to bring the respondent to court. Adv Moela is missing the point at all. You can't argue the case without proper serving
I'm shocked as well. He loves taking chances in the name of taking chances 😂😂
This judge is undermining Moela and very impatient with him. She can correct him without being condescending
This is so wrong 😩 it’s annoying 🚮
@@tlotlomothibedi6479Abuse of power. When it's a white person, they treated with soft gloves
M not justifying her conduct but the lawyer is also continuing interrupting the judge ...I think it touches her temper too..28/11/2024
Is the Lawyer followong the case before you say the Judge is condensation......The guy is excited and loosing focus...he depends on AI .
But the youngster has a hearing problem or lacks comprehension
How can you enter into matter alone,you cant.The state is not here!!
I wish they could serve articles for far longer... please?
I also think the young man is getting excited
This is what most of us fail when the question says with reference to case law😂😂,they don't want any case, quoting wrong cases
The voice of the presiding officer sounds like Judge NS Daniso....28/11/2024
Mrs Ratha in the house🤞
There should be a module on listening to and understanding questions by the presiding officers
Council, do not lose sight of what Bester has done, and will continue henious acts still to come. Remember that we have to protect the law abiting citizens. You probably have a groding family. There was a dead body that was burnt, .... a mother is still crying. But you are fighting for a criminal... what for,? The money ? Eish.
Wow, thanks for standing illitated, sister. I think the judge is actually trying to make him stronger. She Considered that he is young and still have to plead his case before real hostile Judges. I only see a mother trying to push his son. I hope he sees the love in her heart. As for me I can't wait to clarify with my professor whether the legal argument can be argued on principle or facts only. I hope other law students enjoy this game of wits as I have.
I am eager to hear someone who understands what Adv Lerato was upto here. I certainly couldn't follow.
Are these civil, criminal or Constitutional Court proceedings..?
Who set the matter down kanti?
Concessions 😢 are necessary at times
Did the judge say "You are getting excited with what you are doing?"😂😂
KEEP HIM IN JAIL WITH ALL PEOPLE THAT HELP HIM?
There was a stage when the judge said "Mr Moela just carry on coz whatever i say to you seems that they do not make sense"....she was actually washing her hands...realizing that this guy is standing his ground right or wrong....Stand your ground Mr Moela stand your ground....28/11/2024
Did she say "I can see you are getting excited with whatever you are doing" kkkkkkk
Dali's wrong teachings and referencing wrong Judgement 😂😂
Let me tool (Mandithule)...😂😂...28/11/2024
Moela is lost he can't answer questions
I Saw ADV LERATO MOELA AND WATCHED IMMEDIATELY!!!
Just like me....this is a product of Adv D Mpofu SC and he argues with amazing passion and quotes the law ...he is definitely winning this case come rain come sunshine....yiBoss le....he is just like his mentor....The judge will bow to his direction...28/11/2024
I highly doubt it I don't agree with your sentiments.....@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7usbut he failed to answer a simple lesson. Where is the state?
Hayi this judge is out of order ,leave the guy to finish his point please yhuuu
No one is listening to the other.
Emotional immaturity of this judge...appalling to say the least!!! 🤮
But she has a point though. How do you bring an opponent to court ? Through service. This is not an ex parte application baba 😂😂
@ Irrelevant…you can’t ask a question and interject the answer by asking more questions and interject those answers too…Emotional immaturity for a judge.
Dali’s scholar. Shame
The Judge is now drawing the basic lines for the case to proceed experience is everything, u Adv umfake la ngqondo yase Nkandla lo mntwana, akanawphinda alunge.
This guy Moela will win hands down come rain come sunshine...he argues with such passion like Adv D Mpofu SC.....he is on the right track and this is his day ...phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo you are a ⭐....this is your day...28/11/2024 the judge will come to your level Mr Moela....press hard my brother press...
Argue Mr Moela argue my brother argue mfowethu right or wrong...28/11/2024
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 - Stop it please..
Lento ayikho ngomlungu ingo bester ..makaye jele nje qha
Dali's mannerisms of hand adopted
Where did this lawyer study😂hopeless shame😮
Rule 1 of advocacy is not to lose your audience. He lost the favor of his audience throughout his presentation.
The judge is softly laughing...I wonder why???28/11/2024
I found this judge wanting. She really fell short.
@@mphomangole3768why ? She is making a valid point In law. You bring parties to court through service
Law is not easy at all
It’s hard
This guy is totally lost in law and it's procedures,he is been schooled 😅😅😅
I respect this lawyer
Why?
The AI is really making everything to be a mess , the young man seems to be confused by its interpretations...hence he is lost in the midst of confusion...
😂😂😂😂 hay fundamentals 😂😂😂 akunzima e court kule iveki
This lady is simply a bad judge. No need to have such petty, personal debates with counsel😣
The Ladyship is the most patient judge to grace the courts.
Any other judge would have lost it.
I feel for Moela shame😂😂
Let me study law#claponce
This boy was taught wrong by Dali.
Dali taught this guy the best way to argue...he argues with amazing passion he is quoting the law and the constitution....he will win hands down...come rain come sunshine he is winning...the judge will bow to his direction....he is so persuasive...Phez kwabo Mr Moela phez kwabo... ungaphel'umoya...28/11/2024
😂😂😂yane it's my 1st time seeing this yooh
What a horrible judge worse than Ratha Mokgoatleng 😭😭
Adv Moela has Gininda vibes😆
😂😂😂You can say that again
😂😂
The judge is beautiful jealous down...28/11/2024
Mr Moela must be razor sharp he milked the law from double sharp razor Adv D Mpofu SC...28/11/2024
A rude judge
How can the judge complain about service when the opponents are there. This judge 🤣😂🤣
Aowa this judge lecture and judge ai
This Judge will feel Adv Moela...this is a product of Adv D Mpofu SC and he argues like his mentor with amazing passion...whether right or wrong...28/11/2024
I have never seen such a rude and impatient judge in my entire life.
Ratha Mokgoatlheng does it better
I’m shocked
I doubt if the judge is rude, she is just impatient as she feels that the lawyer is on the wrong lane...28/11/2024
Ratha is one of them
Ngumlungu ngoku and this judge is quiet,niyabasaba abelungu nina
If he can lower his voice he may come oright...he sounds like he is shouting at the judge and he at times interrupts the judge....but carry on Mr Moela you will win this case the judge will turn around and rule in your favour she is just playing around she will come to your level ...You can't be wrong after such a careful research with case law and statutes....phez kwakhe Mr Moela ....this is your day my brother....ungaphel'umoya....U are on the right track but they misunderstand you...28/11/2024
What excitement. Just deal with the case and leave the excitement.
Slow on the water pal. U going to pee soon .😂😂😂
This judge is rude and is using emotions.
She is not rude, that is why the is the judge and he the lawyer. He is young and inexperienced.
@michellewright6431 The lady is highly commendable for holding her cool for such long!
Consel is trying not shout
African child is par excellent
Take note student
MRS JUDGE RATHA 😂
She is worse than Ratha this one