My Uberti Match Pistol didn’t Survive the NMLRA Spring Shoot! Find out Why!
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- I spent a few days at the 2024 NMLRA (National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association) Spring Nationals and participated in Revolver matches! The result? I have to find a new match revolver...and in the process became fed-up with Uberti Cap & Ball revolvers! See why!!!!
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Uberti should send you a 1851 London replacement, tuned by the factory so you can showcase it on your channel. 👍
Wouldn’t that be nice!!!
I have one and it wasn't tuned
@usualsuspect5173 sounds like most of us have problems.
I've owned probably 20 blackpowder revolvers in my life, and competed with many, and several were from Uberti, and I've ever owned ONE Uberti blackpowder revolver I was happy with or I could use right from the box, and that was a Walker. The rest, have been nothing but issues, problematic, defective, etc. I've had TWO first Model Dragoons. They were put together so tightly, they could not be separated. I sent the first one back to get repaired, a year later I got it back, a whole year. All they did was take it apart lube it, put it back together. Again, a whole year. My local gunsmith got it better and he said even then it took two people to disassemble it. I was so disgusted I sold it. Two years ago, bought another one, same model, brand new and the same issue. It took me 3 hours to take the gun apart and the pins in the frame were never put in properly, I am parting that one out, have no issue to mess with it. I bought an Uberti 1849 Colt Pocket Model. The gun would not hold on half cock and the barrel wedge kept sliding out. I really like the model, so I bought a replacement hammer, Uberti would do nothing, and put it in, the gun now works as it should and I bought a second wedge from Uberti and that one was as bad as the first, so I peened that one slightly and now it stays in the gun. I got an Uberti Remington New Army, the rammer was bent right from the factory, you could see it just by laying the gun out. On the other hand, I've had Pietta 1860 Army revolvers, two of them, they were great, I competed with them, couldn't ask for better. I have a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 right now, other than replacing the nipples that gun needed nothing shoots better than any other BP revolver I've ever owned. There's been a lot in between and like I said, the Uberti Walker was the only BP revolver from them I've ever owned that didn't need major work or was a headache. NONE of my Piettas needed anything at all.
Your experiences matches mine. Funny, my walker was the only 1 that worked out of the box. I got one with rusted in nipples and one with a nipple cross threaded. On and my 1849 wedge slid out too lol. It’s nice to find out I not just a guy with bad luck!!! Thanks
Have you any experience with a Pietta 1851 in .44 cal?
I got to say the only uberti BP revolver I didn't have to do a bunch of work to was my Walker. My 1849 and my 1862 Pocket Navy were horrible. The 1862 was the worse BP pistol out of the box I've had. I only have one Pietta an 1860 Army I had since 1989 with not many issues and I shot the hack out of it. I had it Defarbed by John Zimmerman to get rid of the the New York city phone book Pietta stamps on the barrel. That is the biggest reason I buy Uberti I have 18 of them.
@ronrobertson59 I hear your on barrel stamping but I personally ignore that cause they are reliable. My 1862 was the same. The hand broke on the first shots! The action was gravel. Good luck my friend
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jbI did a bunch of polishing and also had to replace the hand in the 1862 Navy my 1862 police only had the normal Uberti issue. I did double up the main spring in my 1849 and both 1862 police and navy's.
I wanted to go to the fall nationals and run revolvers - you might do a video on what to expect, what to bring, gear etc?
I will do that! I will probably be there too. Thanks
You are welcome, great videos
@mikerussell6212 having fun over here!
Must've got a lemon. I've been shootn a uberti 61 navy for 40 years only problem has been trigger bolt spring. I prefer uberti but have piettas that I like. 10:26
Yea. That makes sense. I hear they were far better in the past. Maybe their quality control had changed. I’ve got about 6 different ones with similar problems. Luck of the draw I guess
I have 8 Uberti revolvers. All needed some work to be really functional. All needed stronger hammer springs and better nipples. I have made so many hammer springs I can do one in an hour start to finish. I like my London models. Both have been modified. Front sight and heavier hammer springs. New smaller hole nipples. That seemed to stop 95 percent of any problems.
That’s great. The one in the video has a stronger hammer spring, new nipples and the hammer half cock notch wore down flat. Like you, All my unertis need better nipples and spring. I love the London and hope it can be brought back to life. I’m just tired of working on it.
Wow, bad luck with that Uberti. Sounds like it would be a fine shooter again if the factory would honor their commitment to quality and rebuild it for you. I have never owned a Uberti due to the cost. My Piettas have had minor issues but nothing like that albatross of yours. Happy shooting. Cheers!
That would be nice huh! It’s 4 years old do I doubt it! I expect better for the extra $$.
That's interesting. I have six cap & ball revolvers -- a Uberti Walker that is close to 40 years old, an 1860 Army and a 1862 Pocket Police made by ASM (built from kits under the CVA brand) and an 1860 Steel frame, and two 1851 Navy London models all built by Pietta. I have to admit that the Piettas were purchased because they were $100 cheaper per gun than the same model by Uberti. I have run the 1860s in CAS matches, and did all the of the "clean-up" work to smooth them out myself. I've never had any issues with them at all. On the other side of the coin, all of my 1873 Army revolvers are Ubertis, with the exception of my original Colt. All of those went to Alan Harton of Single Action Service in Houston for tuning. They all required chamber mouth reaming to make the chamber mouth the same size as the barrel bore, and they all required the internal parts to be hardened, to make them capable of standing up to the rigors of matches. I've never had an 1873 Colt Clone, because I've heard that they are not as good as the Ubertis. But it all makes me wonder. I need a pair of 1873s in 45 Colt. Maybe I'll try a Pietta this time.
If it were me…there’s no choice. All my Ubertis need constant attention. I put 80 through my pietta 51 navy today max loads and it didn’t hesitate…no screws loose, no cap jams with stock nipples, no hitches in its gritty up…that’s my experience across the board. I replace the hammer and bolt on one pietta but that’s cause I wore it out! Good luck!
Sorry to hear this. Uberti should replace it!
Probably not! But I’d take it. I love the gun … when it works
Great video and good content.
Thank you!
I had a new pistol that the heads of the screws just twisted and marred when trying to remove them. Sent back to the distributor for replacement and they replaced them. In posting on various forums about the issue, I was told the Italian screws aren't properly heat treated and you could either buy a set of properly heat treated ones, or treat them yourself. I don't know how true that is but if you're going to use one for competition (or just shoot alot), it might be worth doing them yourself just to be safe. The process wasn't that hard. Good luck with your new choice, I hope you can fix yours!
Me too! But I have lots of choices here!
I always said these Italian copies were a headache,there good wall hangers
I agree on uberti. My piettas are reliable good shooters…needing very little out of the box. But ubertis … I might be done.
I cannot speak for Uberti, but have had some quality issues with Pietta. Only thing I’ve hand issues with is screws coming loose over time, but this is why I also inspect my revolvers after each cylinder load and while cleaning.
I haven’t had that with pietta. But it’s a good practice to inspect and tighten screws before each use. I do that as well…thank you.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb apologies if that sounded like I was directing it at you, I’m terrible at wording things. Never had an issue with my 1858, my 1851 I’ve caught a few loose screws on more than one occasion. Odd how for me it’s pietta but Uberti for yourself. Maybe just a 1851 thing?
@SunriseSideIronworks hey. I didn’t take it badly at all. No problem here we all got our experiences and I like hearing yours. It is funny…I’m betting on an 1851 thing lol. I hope to keep hearing from you brother.
Harry's Holsters includes “Vibra Tite” thread lock. They tell you to use it after you get your holster adjusted to your preference. It is different from the Permatex thread lockers. The screws can be removed without excessive force. It might work for screws on revolvers. I don't have experience using it that way.
All of my revolvers are Uberti manufactured. I’ll have to say only about one out of every six or seven I’ve bought has been correctly, timed and fitted from the factory. The rest I’ve had to fix myself. The biggest problem I see is the bolt dropping outside the approach of the cylinder notch and peening the cylinder to total ugliness. Other issues are improper wedge fitting along with tight arbor to barrel fit that makes it almost impossible to remove the barrel. I’m gonna have to check out the Pietta in the future.
I agree. I’ve had nipples rusted in from the box…I had a cross threaded nipple out of the box…on this one the half cock notch got ground flat so I had to replace it…on and on
Take It from an old school retired gunsmith and lifelong BP shooter. For percussion revolvers and cartridge revolver replicas, if you're wanting a well built and strong one, buy a Pietta. They are more robust, fitted better, with far greater Q.C. inspection. Forget the "Big U" , as their weapons are pitiful from the last five years. My weapons are either Pietta or older ASM revolvers.
That's my two cents worth on the matter. 🤔
And thanks. Obviously I completely agree. I’ll always take advice from long timers!
I own over 30 colt model percussion revolvers . Two London U 1851
Everything else is pietta then ASM .
I had a store on eBay until the tax changes .
I sold more pietta parts then anything else .
I was always getting request for uberti parts .
What is sad is many new shooters think all makes are the same .
@drmachinewerke1 or worse yet that uberti is best! Your experience tells the story. Thanks
Fantastic!!! 1st time seeing Bullseye shooting with cap and ball. Its great dude I love it (I'm a NRA Bullseye Guy) Peace dude. - Dave
Thanks Dave! It’s a blast and a great challenge. I’m gonna keep after it!!!!
Recently found your channel and enjoy the content. In this video you touch on revolver competition which is something I have not been able to find much about. For the NMLRA competitions do you sight your revolver in for 25 or 50 yards, where is your point of aim on the bull at each distance and do you use different loads at each distance to correct elevation drop? Trying to lean more about this but there are no competition videos that I can find.
Hi. I sight in at 50 yards but really don’t do much with sites other than shoot from a bench a bit to get POA at 50. Mt POA depends on pistol but I do not change loads for 25 to 50. These pistols were designed to get out to 75. yards. I have a couple videos from early in the year showing how I get better at distance culminating in my 75 yd shots. There are some who really sight in and even change sites to get competition ready. I don’t. I just practice. Thanks It’s a lot of fun to shoot competitions even if I rarely win lol
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb thx for the feedback!
I bought a brand new Uberti Cattleman in .45 Colt. It was the Jessie James edition. While it was beautiful and felt pretty good in my hand, it failed in my first trip to the range. It stop firing and I noticed that there was barely a mark on the primers. Looking closer at the gun I noticed that right side hand grip was cracked. Something inside that was responsible for their little firing pin had malfunctioned and now wouldn’t fire. I had to pay out the nose to ship the gun back to them for warrantee repair. They had my gun for eight weeks with no updates. When I contacted them they said they were waiting for the new grips to come in from overseas. I asked for an ETA…..nope. I finally asked if they could put different grips on it…….”we could put walnut grips on it”. Fine, whatever. It came back looking better than original and the grips are even more comfortable. That being said, I don’t trust Uberti anymore. I’ll never buy another one. And their customer service is very poor. They should make their existing customers their priority and they should pay for the shipping on warranty work. It cost me over $100 to ship it back to them. Eight weeks without a word? A couple more weeks to do walnut? Here’s a clue, pull a pair of grips off of the production line and slap them on.
Makes sense to me! Unfortunately many believe uberti is much better than they are. They have great marketing. That changes when troubles occur like yours and mine. Sorry to hear that. Thanks and good luck
Your most welcome J Stone. Enjoy those... Ive found they fit unaltered Pietta rammers decent and uberti rammers better... The Johnston and Dow weighs a little less and only fit Ubertis lol.
Oh yea. Only ubertis. Today…no thanks lol.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb shame about that london 51... Beautiful finish on it, but i agree. Pietta screws tend to be harder. Stiffer main springs too. I honestly think the main springs we use on these guys are weaker then they were back in the day when these guns were the standard. I really wish we could get Ubertis faster rifling in a Pietta though. 1:16 vs 1:30. It makes a difference, not tremendous, but that faster twist likes conicals in my experience. Piettas group similar with anything though lol
Wow , that is so frustrating and disappointing!!! The only Uberti I own is my Walker and so far so good. My Pietta colts have been without problems and seem to be holding up well. Pietta not as “pretty” but shoot !! Good luck I hope you and your buddy get the 1861 up and running.
Me too. But if not I’ve got a bunch of others!!! Thanks
I have never had any robles with any of my Uberti's. I own several. Screws stay tight, loading latch's are fine. How old are your pistols?
These are anywhere from 4 years old to brand new. Some of it’s luck of draw. I don’t overload or abuse them. I don’t know
You should try the Remington New Model!! Great opportunity to fall in love with it!
Oh. It’ll be in my tryout for sure. Thanks
I'm rather shocked how the quality of the fasteners has fallen on these otherwise fine guns. IDK, maybe a bad run of fasteners on that lot? No QA? This is a first for me hearing of a screw that just 'broke' in half. Dang!
It’s the third one on that gun. I think their quality has fallen off
I like the 3rd one is a .44 1851 but it is sure pretty! Would shoot nice with Kerr conicals I believe. All are in stock
Taylor and Company Forearms offering free spare cylinders for all In stock percussion pistols, 1851 (.36 and .44) , 1862, 1860 and 1858 revolvers (blued cylinder), FYI💥
I saw that
Where is the michigan state shoot and when I would be interested in checking it out. I am also a fan of pietta too.
It’s held at our club..Grand Valley Cap n Baller for July 10-14. I haven’t seen the book but I believe the Michigan association has a Facebook page and website MMLRA. I’ll look into it too. Hope you come I’ll be there most of that week.
The website is at the Michigan state muzzleloading association. The match list is there. I just found it.
Bought a new Uberti Walker...it did not survive the first cylinder of rounds. It literally fell apart in my hands! the arbor lock pin backed out and the arbor came out of the frame allowing the thing to fall apart in the first five shots. I fixed it myself, but I'm talking a new gun straight out of the box! I have a lot of revolvers from Uberti and Pietta and there's things I like about both companies and things I hate about them depending on the model at hand. I've been buying, collecting, shooting these things for decades and never had a new gun disassemble itself like that. Todays Uberti is not yesterdays Uberti for sure.
Wow! That’s amazing and a shame. I agree that today’s uberti is not up to its old standards. Wow!! Fell apart. I know the feeling but not first time out!
I've got a Uberti 1873 .357. I have to watch my screws as they will walk themselves out also. Just like yours, mine is also a fine shooting pistol. If I were smart I'd throw some blue loktite on the screws!
I’m not that smart but I’m gonna do that every nail polish
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I've heard of using a dab of clear nail polish!
@chrislang5659 me too! That’ll be my next move.
I would warn against doing that unless the screws are replaced with better quality screws made from better metal! The factory screws are TERRIBLE quality as they are way too soft and will strip the threads or break the heads off if over-tightened much at all, I would bet you would strip the slots in the heads or just break off the heads before those things would come out! If someone is going to resort to using Loctite I strongly suggest using the Loctite 222 Purple Low-Strength for small fasteners as the blue would be a nightmare to remove! (The Red Loctite would be more akin to welding the screws in!)
I have had my 1849 .31 Pocket model and my 1862 Pocket Navy completely apart many times, very recently in fact, working on the cursed (and well known!) cap jam problems and discovered the EXTREMELY poor quality screws almost immediately! After all the good talk about Uberti quality fit & finish and the much higher price I expected much better than mangled screw heads due to the too soft metal (Cheap metal????) and the darn things jamming every other shot. The cap jams were solved by replacing the nipples with Slix-Shots but the screws have yet to be replaced. I have owned both revolvers only a short time but while they were beautiful guns out of the box they have been nothing but trouble as shooters and I didn't buy them to hang on the wall to look at! For the extra cost a person would think they could have used better fasteners and the proper nipples from the factory but neither gun would fire a full five shot cylinder full without jamming just about every other shot.
@catman4644 I couldn’t agree with you more. I expect do much more for the higher cost…I’ve got new screws but they will be the same soft. If I can get this back together and it’s safe…I’ll just fight with the screws. Stock nipples on ALL my Ubertis have been replaced and on about half of them the action sounds like there’s gravel in them. I think they live off an old reputation of quality but pietta puts them to shame. I don’t care how pretty it is or where the barrel is stamped…I want them to be a solid shooter! Thanks
You can't expect an open-top revolver to work correctly with a loose wedge. The wedge should be in tight but Uberti's have a short arbor. That prevents you from driving the wedge in. It's a simple fix but that is the problem. I shoot 45acp +p ammo out of a pair of Uberti 1860's with a conversion cyl.
Yea. I know and am getting it fixed as the rest of the gun gets fixed! My wedge wasn’t loose. It’s the loading lever and the barrel pins. But still… I agree with you! Thanks.
I own quite a few cap and ball revolvers and only a handful are Ubertis. That's because they are the only ones I have issues with and as far as fit and finish go they are also the worst of the bunch. Maybe I'm just unlucky when it comes to Uberti guns. I stick with Pietta whenever possible.
That’s what I thought. I’m finding out that this is common. I’m a pietta guy too have been for a while
Wow! I have never even heard of the alignment pins coming out like that. Everybody has their own opinion and I know most will disagree with me, but my Piettas feel better to me than my Ubertis and usually shoot better to. I have one older Pietta that I have used and abused. I fan the hammer quite often with it and never have any problems. I tried fanning one of my Ubertis and on the third shot broke the hammer spring. Plus, the Ubertis have a tendency to overtravel when you fan them.
Never tried fanning but I’ll be they would have problems. I’d never heard of the pins snapping either. Never want to hear it again lol thanks
Uberti quality has gone down hill, especially since the panic of 2020.
Yes. It’s a shame too. They were always the best. It’s too bag really but they cost more so we should expect more!
I can not say I appreciate it ENOUGH Uberti is a good firearm no doubts, I run into the same issues with them from the comments and the bashing in my videos I thought I was the only one. But hey I see there is some validation, for me that's well enough, I gotta look into those cur bullet mold. Now as far as Pietta Goes Yes I had to slick them up, deburr, set sights however they have never fallen apart while shooting. But HEY that is what happens to me and Uberti, Ubertis fall apart. I guess it is my luck of the draw
I agree. My piettas after deburing are reliable! That’s what matters to me. I think uberti is living on a past reputation. Or, I just have repeated bad luck with them!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I can say been around 14 years now cap and ball revolvers I have yet to get an Uberti that needs a little refinement, the ones received by me Major Issues. I am glad to hear someone else say it.
Thanks. I thought I was the only one until I released the video!!!! I’m sorry to say I and all of us are validated!!! Maybe the truth is coming out from under opinion. I have no doubt they WERE good at one time..,but now…not so much. I struggled with another one today for my next video. Consistent.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb interesting and thanks
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb all I can say to that well I am carbon copied on the Uberti Luck
The best made BP revolvers I've ever owned were made in, of all places, Belgium. After that I would go with Pietta followed at a distance to both by Uberti. I think the biggest problem we have today is that Uberti has stuck closely with "original" Colt's and Remington dimensions whereas Pietta has gone with a slightly larger, and I think stronger, design. You are clearly more informed than I am, so my assumptions are simply that, assumptions.
I’ve heard sbougg tv the Belgium made revolvers… never had the pleasure. Pietta to me is much more reliable session to session across all their revolvers. I have ubertis when Pietta doesn’t make a particular model. Thanks!!!
I only own 1 Uberti………..not impressed……. Had to do some serious tuning on it right out of the box. It felt like it had gravel in it when I got it 😂
Yea. Not good. I’ve had several different issues.
Sounds like the metal content is to soft in the pistol. Things are stretching to easily.
IMO that’s the issue. Thanks
A couple of weeks ago I purchased a RH0342 Uberti 1860 Army Revolver & had to immediately send it back to Dixie Gun Works…brand new out of the box I could not even fully cock the hammer…the cylinder-frame fit & timing was disastrously substandard…the Uberti would not function at all. I should have bought a Pietta again. Does anyone offer services to completely replace all the screws with properly hardened tempered steel?
I’m sorry. That’s a good question. I don’t know of anybody.
VTI gunparts offers hardened screws sets for some of the Uberti revolvers.
@user-ng6kx3ko2s I’m gonna look into that. That’s terrific!! Thanks
If you can't depend on it move on the last uberti I got is junk it's the only one like that but it only takes one
I am. I’ve had at least 7 of my 10 with regular issues. I’m getting done with it
What is the proof date of your London?
It helps new buyers to know what Pietta or Uberti manufacture date ranges to prefer or avoid.
2020. Relatively new for sure.
Uberti DOES need to improve the quality of their heat treating, and the steel in their screws. I have to be real careful with the screwdriver, due to the softness of them.
Yes! And sometimes even careful doesn’t help!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I've heard of people eyeball tempering those screws themselves, but I haven't tried it yet. Not knowing what kind of steel they used made me chicken out.
@williamnye478 yea. That’s above my pay grade but I have friends!
I have seen replacement screws but as discussed they are the same material. I wonder if Dixie replacement screws are of better quality metal?
@josephhaack5711 don’t know. I checked VTI and they have hardened screws. Wow on the price
You got to consider the original engineering. Things have improved over time.
It seems pietta has improved over time and uberti has gone backwards. That’s ok except uberti charges a 50-100 per revolver up charge as if they were still top notch. Thank you.
My Ubertis are all older ones and I’ve had no issues with them. I don’t shoot the number of rounds you do though so I’m not sure if they would hold up any better than yours.
I believe there was a time they earned their excellent reputation. You probably have revolvers from then. I wish I had one too! It’s a shame really! Thanks
Sounds like you have a short arbor issue. Very common issue on the Italian revolvers. If the arbor depth is not correct there will be problems..
I’m betting that’s part of it
J Stone dont scare me on Uberti. Thats the recent talk. Great looking not a solidly built as Pietta. I just bought a '51 Navy Richards Mason conversion in .38. Uberti is the only manufacturer for those. its expensive and I'm nervous
Sorry brother. That’s just my experience.
In early 1990's, I bought seven Pietta 1851 Navys from Cabelas, one at a time, intending main match guns for CAS. I returned all, and swore I would never buy another Pietta product again.
Word on the street is that Pietta upped their game a bit in 2015-2017, or so. I don't tell prospective new-to-C&B buyers that "Pietta is crap", based on my 1990's experience. I tell them that ALL manufacturers have issues. Based upon what the new owner wants, some makers at certain periods might not meet their expectations.
Although it is always on the list, "accurate shooting" is rarely the real goal. Accuracy appears to be your most important goal. Why would replacing a few screws and pins, reliability steps that should be done before accuracy testing, be an issue? If your load and revolver are accurate, why worry about "barrel - arbor" gap?
Remember, since the late 1950's until about 2015, the biggest group of C&B buyers were Civil War reenactors, or those "just curious". Visual authenticity was key. "Accurate" was being able to keep most bullets on the paper at 25 yards for the 12 shots they fired each year. "Reliable" was using two hands to get the cylinder to rotate.
I shoot modified ASM, Colt 2nd gen, Centurion, and Uberti. I don't buy new as I have too many already.
Those looking for accuracy, or for reliability (e.g., cowboy action shooting) had to accept mediocre or make modifications. 2024, they still do.
Thanks. This uberti is 2020. The accuracy I look for is not bullseye but what I call ‘gunfighter’ accuracy. I want to hit a target in approximately an area that would have been effective in a gunfight. I don’t expect more than reliability…by that I mean it shoots without breaking when I want it to. My piettas say 2017 to present do that. My ubertis in same date range have troubles doing that. I’m not trying to become a target champ. But it’s fun to try. Thank you.
I had the same encounters with Pietta in exactly 1990. My first percussion revolver was a brass frame navy Pietta that was pretty good. So I bought an Army model. It was so bad out of time that one chamber had to be marked so I would never load it. I sold it to a guy who parted it out. I said I would never buy Pietta again, but now all I hear is good reviews and it seems they have improved greatly. I may check out some of their current production.
@SteveHolcombe I think what’s happened over time is pietta has greatly improved while uberti went the other way and has lived off reputation.
The colt design dates back to the mid 1830s. To many bits and pieces screwed together. The whitney and remminton are a much better design one piece frame with the barrel solidly attached.
Given the choice do you like uberti or pietta better
My Spiller and Burr is a pietta and I love it
I’ll take pietta. I buy uberti only when they make one I want and pietta doesn’t. Like the walker and dragoon.
Did you read any of the comments? Lol
@josephhaack5711 I read em all and answer them too.
I would love to fix for you
Thanks. Got it covered
A short arbor can put pressure on those pins. Uberti is very bad at selling guns with short arbors. All my Piettas have spot on arbors.
Yea. I’m going to look at a fix. Clearly something did! lol. Thanks
For Colt pattern replicas, Pietta is THE only way to go. I own Colt pattern Uberti's and love them BUT Pietta is superior to Uberti in function. Uberti does do cosmetics better.
Yes…Ubertis do look better but I agree with you. If you wanna shoot, pietta is the way to go…now it been proven to me for real! Thanks
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@josephhaack5711
1 day ago
Uberti should send you a 1851 London replacement, tuned by the factory so you can showcase it on your channel. 👍
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@Bayan1905
1 day ago
I've owned probably 20 blackpowder revolvers in my life, and competed with many, and several were from Uberti, and I've ever owned ONE Uberti blackpowder revolver I was happy with or I could use right from the box, and that was a Walker. The rest, have been nothing but issues, problematic, defective, etc. I've had TWO first Model Dragoons. They were put together so tightly, they could not be separated. I sent the first one back to get repaired, a year later I got it back, a whole year. All they did was take it apart lube it, put it back together. Again, a whole year. My local gunsmith got it better and he said even then it took two people to disassemble it. I was so disgusted I sold it. Two years ago, bought another one, same model, brand new and the same issue. It took me 3 hours to take the gun apart and the pins in the frame were never put in properly, I am parting that one out, have no issue to mess with it. I bought an Uberti 1849 Colt Pocket Model. The gun would not hold on half cock and the barrel wedge kept sliding out. I really like the model, so I bought a replacement hammer, Uberti would do nothing, and put it in, the gun now works as it should and I bought a second wedge from Uberti and that one was as bad as the first, so I peened that one slightly and now it stays in the gun. I got an Uberti Remington New Army, the rammer was bent right from the factory, you could see it just by laying the gun out. On the other hand, I've had Pietta 1860 Army revolvers, two of them, they were great, I competed with them, couldn't ask for better. I have a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 right now, other than replacing the nipples that gun needed nothing shoots better than any other BP revolver I've ever owned. There's been a lot in between and like I said, the Uberti Walker was the only BP revolver from them I've ever owned that didn't need major work or was a headache. NONE of my Piettas needed anything at all.
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@chairzombie8378
1 day ago
I wanted to go to the fall nationals and run revolvers - you might do a video on what to expect, what to bring, gear etc?
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@Chris-2-of-3
1 day ago
I'm rather shocked how the quality of the fasteners has fallen on these otherwise fine guns. IDK, maybe a bad run of fasteners on that lot? No QA? This is a first for me hearing of a screw that just 'broke' in half. Dang!
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@lutherpayne9957
1 day ago
Wow, bad luck with that Uberti. Sounds like it would be a fine shooter again if the factory would honor their commitment to quality and rebuild it for you. I have never owned a Uberti due to the cost. My Piettas have had minor issues but nothing like that albatross of yours. Happy shooting. Cheers!
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@SuperSneakySteve
1 day ago
A short arbor can put pressure on those pins. Uberti is very bad at selling guns with short arbors. All my Piettas have spot on arbors.
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@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike
1 day ago
Uberti quality has gone down hill, especially since the panic of 2020.
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@22BOZIDAR
1 day ago
The colt design dates back to the mid 1830s. To many bits and pieces screwed together. The whitney and remminton are a much better design one piece frame with the barrel solidly attached.
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@williamnye478
1 day ago
Uberti DOES need to improve the quality of their heat treating, and the steel in their screws. I have to be real careful with the screwdriver, due to the softness of them.
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@MaceBell
1 day ago (edited)
I have never had any robles with any of my Uberti's. I own several. Screws stay tight, loading latch's are fine. How old are your pistols?
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@cedar_tree2006
2 minutes ago
What is the proof date of your London? It helps new buyers to know what Pietta or Uberti manufacture date ranges to prefer or avoid.
In early 1990's, I bought seven Pietta 1851 Navys from Cabelas, one at a time, intending main match guns for CAS. I returned all, and swore I would never buy another Pietta product again.
Word on the street is that Pietta upped their game a bit in 2015-2017, or so. I don't tell prospective new-to-C&B buyers that "Pietta is crap", based on my 1990's experience. I tell them that ALL manufacturers have issues. Based upon what the new owner wants, some makers at certain periods might not meet their expectations.
Although it is always on the list, "accurate shooting" is rarely the real goal. Accuracy appears to be your most important goal. Why would replacing a few screws and pins, reliability steps that should be done before accuracy testing, be an issue? If your load and revolver are accurate, why worry about "barrel - arbor" gap?
Remember, since the late 1950's until about 2015, the biggest group of C&B buyers were Civil War reenactors, or those "just curious". Visual authenticity was key. "Accurate" was being able to keep most bullets on the paper at 25 yards for the 12 shots they fired each year. "Reliable" was using two hands to get the cylinder to rotate.
I shoot modified ASM, Colt 2nd gen, Centurion, and Uberti. I don't buy new as I have too many already.
Those looking for accuracy, or for reliability (e.g., cowboy action shooting) had to accept mediocre or make modifications. 2024, they still do.