I have resisted acquiring Remingtons as I have several Rogers & Spencers and thought "good enough"'. A couple of years ago I lucked into a pair of new Uberti Remingtons with the fire blue finish and thought they were too pretty to turn down. So far I have been able to fire six full cylinders on both guns several times without any noticeable cylinder drag. I will eventually extend that test but so far I am happy. Thanks for this channel. Nice to be able to share information.
That’s great! They are beautiful, great shooting revolvers. The one in my video is bringing me around to them lol. I just think the colts are cool looking!
Remington revolvers clog quicker than Colts but are far easier to shoot accurately ! Mix one ounce of Ballistol with a half ounce of denatured alcohol and a half ounce of distilled water , a couple drops on the cylinder pin every 12 rounds and you can shoot as much as you like .
That’s great! Remingtons certainly do shoot more accurately…with less need to aim off. This was shooting low so I’ll probably try 30 grains instead of 25 next time. I like your mixture. Thanks!
I keep a small squirt bottle of plain old moose milk handy (1 part Ballistol 6-8 parts distilled water) and just squirt cylinder gap 1 or 2 spritzes and spin the cylinder good for several more cylinder full of shooting. If really fouled pull base pin and cylinder a squirt the pin and cylinder hole seat pin and spin cylinder. While you're at it you can spritz the bore as well,
@@dorisjohnson8857I am a big fan of moose milk also. I use it on all my bp firearms and it lubes and cleans perfectly. One thing though, I never used distilled water making it and never had a problem, but I am on a well and that is probably why I don’t have any problems.
@@RiverRat1953 City water is really hard in the SW and I don't have a softener and no need or desire to have calcium and alkali salts residue in my BP cleaner so I just make it with distilled water. it's cheap, at less than $1 a gallon at super market, and I always have plenty on hand for the coffee maker ❤ 🙂Doris
I get more fits from my Remingtons... Decent guns but not my favorite either. Heavier then a Colt, tend to fowl up faster too... Notching the base pin helps, but still wont run like a Colt. Its also harder to clean, particularly around the forcing cone. The rammer is suited to round ball.. does ok with Kerrs. Unmodified, I've yet to find a pietta that hasn't run that concical well. 0.450 at first lube goove, 0.457 at the nose, snd heeled. Running fffg swiss, 22-25 grains, lubed with beeswax and olive oil 50/50 250 grains of lead. Decent for hunting and ranch patrol.
I agree. Between the fouling and the heavy balance issues they aren’t my favorite. I had fun with the one in the video but maybe that’s cause it’s purdy lol. My piettas do well with conicals too. I run about 22-23 grains fffg scheutzen most often and use Swiss in my flintlocks. My lube is typically bees wax and beef or lamb tallow with a splash of olive oil to keep it a bit softer. I’m still a colt guy 90% of the time. Just finishing a griswold Gunnison video…a brass frame piece. It’s a nice shooter at reduced loads.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb yea, Dustin Winger has one, so does Blackie as i recall... Dustin puts out some really nice paper cartridge kits, Guns of the West. Skin cartridges are more field friendly though. More resistant to damage and water, down side is, more prep is needed. Lose a day soaking them and letting the linings dry on a proper sized mandrill before cutting to length and loading. Done those a couple times.
I’ve tried that a few times and didn’t like it. The wads I use do a great job for me. It’s mainly the Remington NMA and my revolving carbine…especially the carbine that I have fouling troubles with right at the cylinder gap/forcing cone meets the top strap. That gun butter I tried seems to work well. But I carry moose milk so I’ll give that a squirt too!
Given scarcity of caps, messing with loose powder balls, and tediousness of rolling paper cartridges I have gone to the dark side for the most part 😲and have gotten Howell cylinders for my Pietta '51 Navy and Uberti '58 Army and Navy and load .45 Colt and .38 Long Colt, .38 Special, and even .357 brass with BP and conicals.. Get the same big booms and smoke and grins from my revolvers but shoot more and load less 🥴DJ @@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
I bought a pair of Uberti Remington 1863 New Army aka 1858. Nether will pop caps even after I put slixshot nipples in. I sold one and am converting the other one to cartridge..
So I been lubricating my cylinder pins for nearly 40 years. Now full disclosure I own nine different Remingtons, four spare cylinders just for my peittas. So I preloaded, and when I put bullet lube over the chamber's I put a small amount over cylinder pin entrance. This a .44 caliber only thing for me. The .36 cals is a one cylinder pee revolver situation . Mountain man
Yes. I do lube the grooves on colts. The Remington in this video does not have grooves. So for Remingtons the lube runs from the barrel down to the cone/cylinder gap and keeps it spinning. I do lube the chambers after cleaning to protect against rust but not with the powder. I don’t remember him saying lube chambers before shooting but, I’ll check it again. Thanks!
Part of your dislike for Remington’s could be kind of like my dislike with Colts. Now that I have said that, I do not dislike Colt gun’s, but I do dislike certain calibers in certain models. That is because certain models like the 1851 Confederate Navy, tend to have small grips that do not fit well in my hands. Where as models like the 1860 Army in .44 have a bigger grip that fits my hand better, and allows me to hold the gun better. Which is why I tend to stick with bigger framed gun in larger calibers, as I hate having my little finger tucked under the gun grip as it causes me to feel like I do not have a good grip on the gun. And I am currently building a Pietta 1861 Navy caliber colt, that I may end up putting army grips on.
I think you’re on to it. It’s all a matter of personal fit and preference. I got off on the wrong foot with Remingtons years ago and just didn’t try again. My hands are smaller so the navy grips fit beautifully. So it really has nothing to do with the revolver. Just preference. Good luck on that 61. Great idea.
The answer to the problem of small grip frames on 1851 and 1873 SAA is to replace them with 1860 grips, they fit straight on an I am sure that was done back in the day, the small grips are awful things to use if you have a normal size hand, not sure why Colt went so small as the Dragoons are OK. Chris B.
i did that with a Uberti, expensive, cheaper to buy new Close to $700 with tools for a Colt. i did one and use a Howell cylinder for the other.@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
I built a Pietta sheriff into a kirst parts got it fit up good everything lines up and runs smooth until you shoot it then it locks up solid 2-3 shots in with over the counter cowboy loads 1 shot with bp home loads. The leading on the front of the cylinder shuts me down almost immediately thinking about cutting a forcing cone not sure what else i can do with it
@@MTp8ntballerCheck the front of the cylinder. If there are drag marks on it the gap between the barrel and the cylinder might not be sufficient. There needs to be enough distance between them to allow some lead and carbon buildup. I can’t remember what the proper distance is. You will have to look it up to see what is correct. You will need a feeler gauge to figure it out. Just remember what you take off can’t but put back on. Hope this helps.
Biggest thing that trips me up with my Remington is that I’m so used to aiming low with my colt replicas and then have to remind myself to aim high with the Remington. Other than that I just love going out and having some fun with a replica gun from the civil war era.
I guess it's all about what we enjoy. I prefer Remmies. But they aren't perfect. I've been tempted to modify my cylinder to make it more like the Ruger. Of course I'll also need to open the pin area of the frame to accommodate the mod. My Ruger old army will shoot all day without any problems at all. No lube required. However I'd love to have a smaller caliber. So maybe a modified.32 pocket???
I have never really liked the Remington design, it has the false hope of more strength due to having a top strap, but it is a very fiddly thing to use, with an awkward to fit and remove cylinder, is always clogging up, and very fiddly to cap on a cold day, I have never had any issues of strength with a Colt open top design and have shot far more accurately with it, so my Remingtons stay in the cupboard unused. Thanks for posting this one! Chris B.
This just popped up while surfing the net. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Remington BP revolvers. I cut my teeth on old Colts as a kid in the late 50's. 45 Colt SAA, and a brace of original 1851 Navies carried by my great grandfather. And today, there's half a dozen Colt reproduction revolvers I shoot. Over the past several decades I've had four Remington reproduction revolvers. The fouling issues didn't bother me, but it was the overall feel of the weapon that did. The grip and balance weren't right for me. The thin hammer was difficult to get a decent "hook" with the thumb. And the hammer spring "stacks" horribly. The weapon, overall, was just a disaster for me to use. I never kept a Remington revolver more than a couple of months before trading or selling it. They just felt "off" in my hands. I'm a Colt guy all the way. There will be no more Remington revolvers in this house.
Great video. I have a couple remingtons and they are not my favorites but still get use. Quick note on shooting low. Instead of aiming high, experiment with raising the front post higher. I paint stripes on mine for longer shots.
Thanks for the question. I had the loading stand break cause it’s not built (at least this one) for the downward pressure. It’s easier for me to save the stand and use my own leverage. Just my personal thing I guess.
I can tell you don't shoot Remington all that often... when lubing- "The bigger the gob, the better the job" rings true with Remington. You literally have to lube EVERYTHING except the chambers (before loading) and don't be shy. *Paper towels and WD-40 are your friends.*
Colts are ok but they are not all that to me I prefer the Remington more accurate and stronger loads plus it's easier to change cylinders in a pinch I never load on the pistol have no problem with fouling just use gun butter or bore butter
I keep a small squirt bottle of plain old moose milk handy (1 part Ballistol 6-8 parts distilled water) and just squirt cylinder gap 1 or 2 spritzes and spin the cylinder good for several more cylinders full of shooting. If really fouled pull base pin and cylinder a squirt the pin and cylinder hole seat pin and spin cylinder. While you're at it you can spritz the bore as well, Just found and 💗Love your videos DJ
You don't have to pay 50 dollars for stainless nipples to get them to work if take a small file an cut small grooves in the base pin it will hold grease
Iḿ a Colt guy but have one Uberti 1858 Remington factory cartridge conversion, 38 cal 5 &1/2 inch barrel,actually shoots nice, I´ll probably nickle plate the brass and the loading lever then go with bone style grips; still like my 1860ś better :)
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I have resisted acquiring Remingtons as I have several Rogers & Spencers and thought "good enough"'. A couple of years ago I lucked into a pair of new Uberti Remingtons with the fire blue finish and thought they were too pretty to turn down. So far I have been able to fire six full cylinders on both guns several times without any noticeable cylinder drag. I will eventually extend that test but so far I am happy. Thanks for this channel. Nice to be able to share information.
That’s great! They are beautiful, great shooting revolvers. The one in my video is bringing me around to them lol. I just think the colts are cool looking!
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Remington revolvers clog quicker than Colts but are far easier to shoot accurately ! Mix one ounce of Ballistol with a half ounce of denatured alcohol and a half ounce of distilled water , a couple drops on the cylinder pin every 12 rounds and you can shoot as much as you like .
That’s great! Remingtons certainly do shoot more accurately…with less need to aim off. This was shooting low so I’ll probably try 30 grains instead of 25 next time. I like your mixture. Thanks!
I keep a small squirt bottle of plain old moose milk handy (1 part Ballistol 6-8 parts distilled water) and just squirt cylinder gap 1 or 2 spritzes and spin the cylinder good for several more cylinder full of shooting. If really fouled pull base pin and cylinder a squirt the pin and cylinder hole seat pin and spin cylinder.
While you're at it you can spritz the bore as well,
@@dorisjohnson8857I am a big fan of moose milk also. I use it on all my bp firearms and it lubes and cleans perfectly. One thing though, I never used distilled water making it and never had a problem, but I am on a well and that is probably why I don’t have any problems.
@@RiverRat1953 City water is really hard in the SW and I don't have a softener and no need or desire to have calcium and alkali salts residue in my BP cleaner so I just make it with distilled water. it's cheap, at less than $1 a gallon at super market, and I always have plenty on hand for the coffee maker ❤ 🙂Doris
My pieta new armyis great. Ive put 10 cylinders in mine before it dragged.
My gun greese is made with bee's wax and vegetable oil.
That’s terrific. Thanks
I get more fits from my Remingtons... Decent guns but not my favorite either. Heavier then a Colt, tend to fowl up faster too... Notching the base pin helps, but still wont run like a Colt. Its also harder to clean, particularly around the forcing cone. The rammer is suited to round ball.. does ok with Kerrs. Unmodified, I've yet to find a pietta that hasn't run that concical well. 0.450 at first lube goove, 0.457 at the nose, snd heeled. Running fffg swiss, 22-25 grains, lubed with beeswax and olive oil 50/50 250 grains of lead. Decent for hunting and ranch patrol.
I agree. Between the fouling and the heavy balance issues they aren’t my favorite. I had fun with the one in the video but maybe that’s cause it’s purdy lol. My piettas do well with conicals too. I run about 22-23 grains fffg scheutzen most often and use Swiss in my flintlocks. My lube is typically bees wax and beef or lamb tallow with a splash of olive oil to keep it a bit softer. I’m still a colt guy 90% of the time. Just finishing a griswold Gunnison video…a brass frame piece. It’s a nice shooter at reduced loads.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb yea, Dustin Winger has one, so does Blackie as i recall... Dustin puts out some really nice paper cartridge kits, Guns of the West. Skin cartridges are more field friendly though. More resistant to damage and water, down side is, more prep is needed. Lose a day soaking them and letting the linings dry on a proper sized mandrill before cutting to length and loading. Done those a couple times.
there is a cutout on the bottom of the pin fill it with butter
I also think putting lube over the ball instead of using wads keep the cylinder gap much more greasy and loose DJ
I’ve tried that a few times and didn’t like it. The wads I use do a great job for me. It’s mainly the Remington NMA and my revolving carbine…especially the carbine that I have fouling troubles with right at the cylinder gap/forcing cone meets the top strap. That gun butter I tried seems to work well. But I carry moose milk so I’ll give that a squirt too!
Given scarcity of caps, messing with loose powder balls, and tediousness of rolling paper cartridges I have gone to the dark side for the most part 😲and have gotten Howell cylinders for my Pietta '51 Navy and Uberti '58 Army and Navy and load .45 Colt and .38 Long Colt, .38 Special, and even .357 brass with BP and conicals.. Get the same big booms and smoke and grins from my revolvers but shoot more and load less 🥴DJ @@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
I bought a pair of Uberti Remington 1863 New Army aka 1858. Nether will pop caps even after I put slixshot nipples in. I sold one and am converting the other one to cartridge..
Wow! Thats unusual. Good luck on the conversion.
So I been lubricating my cylinder pins for nearly 40 years. Now full disclosure I own nine different Remingtons, four spare cylinders just for my peittas. So I preloaded, and when I put bullet lube over the chamber's I put a small amount over cylinder pin entrance. This a .44 caliber only thing for me. The .36 cals is a one cylinder pee revolver situation .
Mountain man
As long as they stay lubed they’re fine. Until I found that gun butter it was new lube every 3 cylinders. I like em if they keep spinning.
Make sure that you also lube the cylinder pin. If you watch Blackie, you should have seen his video about adding lube grooves to the pin.
Yes. I do lube the grooves on colts. The Remington in this video does not have grooves. So for Remingtons the lube runs from the barrel down to the cone/cylinder gap and keeps it spinning. I do lube the chambers after cleaning to protect against rust but not with the powder. I don’t remember him saying lube chambers before shooting but, I’ll check it again. Thanks!
I did the lube grooves on my 58, and it didn’t help mine. It still gums up after one cylinder
Part of your dislike for Remington’s could be kind of like my dislike with Colts. Now that I have said that, I do not dislike Colt gun’s, but I do dislike certain calibers in certain models. That is because certain models like the 1851 Confederate Navy, tend to have small grips that do not fit well in my hands. Where as models like the 1860 Army in .44 have a bigger grip that fits my hand better, and allows me to hold the gun better. Which is why I tend to stick with bigger framed gun in larger calibers, as I hate having my little finger tucked under the gun grip as it causes me to feel like I do not have a good grip on the gun. And I am currently building a Pietta 1861 Navy caliber colt, that I may end up putting army grips on.
I think you’re on to it. It’s all a matter of personal fit and preference. I got off on the wrong foot with Remingtons years ago and just didn’t try again. My hands are smaller so the navy grips fit beautifully. So it really has nothing to do with the revolver. Just preference. Good luck on that 61. Great idea.
The answer to the problem of small grip frames on 1851 and 1873 SAA is to replace them with 1860 grips, they fit straight on an I am sure that was done back in the day, the small grips are awful things to use if you have a normal size hand, not sure why Colt went so small as the Dragoons are OK. Chris B.
I have several Colts and Remingtons. I'm starting two Remington Sheriff's models, building them into cartridge guns with Kirst parts.
That’s great! They’ll be fun.
i did that with a Uberti, expensive, cheaper to buy new Close to $700 with tools for a Colt. i did one and use a Howell cylinder for the other.@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
I built a Pietta sheriff into a kirst parts got it fit up good everything lines up and runs smooth until you shoot it then it locks up solid 2-3 shots in with over the counter cowboy loads 1 shot with bp home loads. The leading on the front of the cylinder shuts me down almost immediately thinking about cutting a forcing cone not sure what else i can do with it
@MTp8ntballer not good! Good luck.
@@MTp8ntballerCheck the front of the cylinder. If there are drag marks on it the gap between the barrel and the cylinder might not be sufficient. There needs to be enough distance between them to allow some lead and carbon buildup. I can’t remember what the proper distance is. You will have to look it up to see what is correct. You will need a feeler gauge to figure it out. Just remember what you take off can’t but put back on. Hope this helps.
Biggest thing that trips me up with my Remington is that I’m so used to aiming low with my colt replicas and then have to remind myself to aim high with the Remington. Other than that I just love going out and having some fun with a replica gun from the civil war era.
I guess it's all about what we enjoy. I prefer Remmies. But they aren't perfect. I've been tempted to modify my cylinder to make it more like the Ruger. Of course I'll also need to open the pin area of the frame to accommodate the mod.
My Ruger old army will shoot all day without any problems at all. No lube required. However I'd love to have a smaller caliber. So maybe a modified.32 pocket???
I have never really liked the Remington design, it has the false hope of more strength due to having a top strap, but it is a very fiddly thing to use, with an awkward to fit and remove cylinder, is always clogging up, and very fiddly to cap on a cold day, I have never had any issues of strength with a Colt open top design and have shot far more accurately with it, so my Remingtons stay in the cupboard unused. Thanks for posting this one! Chris B.
Thank you! I agree
This just popped up while surfing the net. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Remington BP revolvers. I cut my teeth on old Colts as a kid in the late 50's. 45 Colt SAA, and a brace of original 1851 Navies carried by my great grandfather. And today, there's half a dozen Colt reproduction revolvers I shoot. Over the past several decades I've had four Remington reproduction revolvers. The fouling issues didn't bother me, but it was the overall feel of the weapon that did. The grip and balance weren't right for me. The thin hammer was difficult to get a decent "hook" with the thumb. And the hammer spring "stacks" horribly. The weapon, overall, was just a disaster for me to use. I never kept a Remington revolver more than a couple of months before trading or selling it. They just felt "off" in my hands. I'm a Colt guy all the way. There will be no more Remington revolvers in this house.
Great video. I have a couple remingtons and they are not my favorites but still get use. Quick note on shooting low. Instead of aiming high, experiment with raising the front post higher. I paint stripes on mine for longer shots.
Hey…I like the stripes idea! I’ll see what I can do in front post. I don’t shoot it a whole lot but will be soon. Thank you!
Have you considered a Ruger Old Army? They are similar to Remington but truly a modern black powder design. Kind of pricey if you can find them.
Use white lithium grease on the cylinder pin. The thicker viscosity will stick with the pin and cylinder much longer.
Great idea! I’ll give it a try. Thanks
You can mill a small slit on two side of the cylinder pen and it will hold lube
Good idea! Thank you.
Why did you take the pistol out of the loading stand to ram the bullet? The stand provides a bearing surface, against the ramming motion.
Thanks for the question. I had the loading stand break cause it’s not built (at least this one) for the downward pressure. It’s easier for me to save the stand and use my own leverage. Just my personal thing I guess.
You can file in some grease grooves in the cylinder pin!
I have learned that! Thanks. I didn’t know that at the time lol
I do not recall Custer ever using a Remington. So, Why a "Custer Model"?
Hi. Actually he used Remingtons and really favored them. I have read this many times including his bio.
I can tell you don't shoot Remington all that often... when lubing- "The bigger the gob, the better the job" rings true with Remington. You literally have to lube EVERYTHING except the chambers (before loading) and don't be shy. *Paper towels and WD-40 are your friends.*
Colts are ok but they are not all that to me I prefer the Remington more accurate and stronger loads plus it's easier to change cylinders in a pinch I never load on the pistol have no problem with fouling just use gun butter or bore butter
Do you find the Remi's have less cap jams than the Colts?
Yes. I think they do have less jams. They jam but less often
They also have a weak loading lever compared to a Colt…
Indeed they do. Not my favorite for sure.
That's why you get extra cylinders
Yup! I have 1 for this. Handy to have sometimes. Thanks.
I keep a small squirt bottle of plain old moose milk handy (1 part Ballistol 6-8 parts distilled water) and just squirt cylinder gap 1 or 2 spritzes and spin the cylinder good for several more cylinders full of shooting. If really fouled pull base pin and cylinder a squirt the pin and cylinder hole seat pin and spin cylinder.
While you're at it you can spritz the bore as well, Just found and 💗Love your videos DJ
That’s a great idea! Thanks for your kind words.
Don't know why I prefer the Colts or Colt Reproductions
I think they are cool. They scream old west to me more that Remingtons. That’s one of my reasons.
You don't have to pay 50 dollars for stainless nipples to get them to work if take a small file an cut small grooves in the base pin it will hold grease
I’ve done that now…on this and my rem revolving carbine. Saving me $100. Thanks!
Would you like to sell one
@user-pc2wo9vm2k nope
The Remingtons don’t look anywhere near as good as a Colt.
I agree. Colts look like the old west!!! Thanks
Iḿ a Colt guy but have one Uberti 1858 Remington factory cartridge conversion, 38 cal 5 &1/2 inch barrel,actually shoots nice, I´ll probably nickle plate the brass and the loading lever then go with bone style grips; still like my 1860ś better :)