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Making Whiskey (better than UJSSM) #5, Secondary Distillation

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  • Fifth video in a short tutorial series I'm making for a cousin of mine who wants to learn home distillation. Now we do the second distillation and learn how to turn moonshine into actual whiskey.
    Series Playlist: • Making Whiskey (better...

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  • @Castiron-sh3kq
    @Castiron-sh3kq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    some of us so called "Hillbillies", love the taste of authentic Moonshine as soon as the heads are thrown off... ;)

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, I know. I also know some people who think there's something good about the taste of a raw egg...Pass

    • @russellweidler6964
      @russellweidler6964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He never had shine from a copper still with a thumper then. Cause 160 corn whiskey is delicious you cant make that assumption brewing through stainless steel.

  • @Moonshine_fortynine
    @Moonshine_fortynine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos. The best I've seen on TH-cam. I even went back and took notes on the process. This is how I make my whiskey and bourbon. Super simple.

  • @howardhikes8829
    @howardhikes8829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the name drop that rye was so smooth now I know why thank you for posting these to TH-cam.

  • @mergcontracts8614
    @mergcontracts8614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By far the best videos on TH-cam from stage one till the end mate. I’m currently fermenting the same. Tried before but failed miserably, whole thing tasted like petrol

  • @postopia1992
    @postopia1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You earned a subscriber. Awesome series. I’m new to the hobby and this helped me understand a lot better than most other channels on TH-cam. I’ve been building up my supplies over 2 weeks and just discovered this series and only thing I’m missing is a air still and the oat and wheats which I assume are just for flavor and a little more starch as the amylase is what converted to sugars. Thanks for your time! Keep up the awesome videos!!!

  • @johnnyringo7194
    @johnnyringo7194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice series of videos Brother! I learned a lot! Making my first mash run tonight...

  • @bigfoot8203
    @bigfoot8203 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the videos. I've been searching and watching videos little over a week trying to learn more. I had to say you got the best videos out! You hit on everything , now I think I do a better job thanks to you!

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This will help you create something better than UJSSM style mashes (meaning, ones that involve adding sugar). You wouldn't believe what you can achieve with all grain, no sugar, and high temperature enzymes instead of that powdered amalayse.

  • @PSYCHOPATHiO
    @PSYCHOPATHiO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I might start secondary distillation as I also have an air still with temp control, great idea.

  • @AT4AFT20
    @AT4AFT20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love the taste as it comes out of the still.... i dont gulp it i take shots as it comes out of the still i find that to be the best taste

  • @PSYCHOPATHiO
    @PSYCHOPATHiO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Epic video, love your commentary

  • @smalltownrifleman
    @smalltownrifleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos.
    You are from my home country. My sister runs Fuel Services in Scottsbluff. My mom lives in Torrington. My son and daughter live in Glenrock and Casper. I had a machine shop in Oshkosh for 9 years before I came down here to Texas in 09.
    Keep doing things the common sense way.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, I'm trying to figure out why your name sounds so familiar. I've never been a frequent flyer at machine shops.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/2SM1IIH9F_o/w-d-xo.html

  • @everydayden5826
    @everydayden5826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good series of videos. Thank you for all the hard work. I had not thought about using an air still for finishing, but it makes pretty good sense. Love to compare notes some time. -- den

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got the air still for that purpose because it was cheaper than buying a reflux column and bubble plates. Less than half the price and is just the right size for the amount of ethanol that you'd get out of a 5 gallon run.

  • @dusty6570
    @dusty6570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos. Question. I ferment in a 5g bucket. Couple times I kept the mash in a mesh bag. One time no bag but had the bag in the still. Regardless of either of those, the grain holds a lot of the liquid after leading me to have to squeeze the bag of mash by hand. What do you do to get all or most of the liquid out? Or what would you recommend? Use a hand strainer and scoop all the mash out?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspend the bag from a rope above the brew pot for a couple days and let it drip dry. While you may think there's a lot of liquid trapped in there, the distilled amount left in there after drip drying would only amount to maybe a tablespoon.

  • @brianpasco6097
    @brianpasco6097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, how much liquid remained in the air still after 2nd run? Do you ever have heads and tails in 2nd run.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since you can't safely redistill more than 80 proof, there will always be water left behind in the still at the end of the run. I never worry about heads and tails when redistilling. I always make sure the still is clean before I run it and I quit running the air still when nothing more is coming out of it. What ends up in the pitcher is 140 proof and anything nasty that might have been in there gets left behind. If on the off chance there was anything I didn't like, I'd just redistill it again just like they do with vodka.

  • @markspc1
    @markspc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos, and lots of good tips.
    I guess there are many ways to skin a cat; most stills have copper tubes and copper mesh. Commercial distiller say the copper removes sulfides/sulfates, but you have all stainless steel stills.
    Anyway I have a request, could you spend few bucks and get a tripod. You may not notice but you have a nervous hand. Also some video cameras/cell phone have a built in stabilizer.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's copper packing in the area where the thermometer is located, all stainless steel stills have copper packing in them somewhere. As for the tripod request, I already have one. I mentioned in all of these videos that they were made as a guide for my cousin. This isn't a homebrew and distillation channel, this channel is for my greenhouse business. There is a channel trailer video on the home page of this channel stating that and any other videos related to that topic are posted on my personal page at th-cam.com/users/LarryAthey

  • @chrislnflorida5192
    @chrislnflorida5192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, learned alot.
    How much volume u get out of your 2 ltrs after your 2nd run and then tempering it down to 80 proof?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly don't remember, I thought I might have mentioned that in the video. I could be wrong, but I think it's between 1.5 and 2 gallons.

  • @kenstar1862
    @kenstar1862 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy the simplicity of your blogs,short and to the point,,,,do you plan to add any new Distillation processes to your channel?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe, I'm not sure. I just put these videos together for a cousin of mine so he could see how simple it actually is "if you want it to be simple". I have nothing against people who do things the fancy, high tech, complicated way. I just don't have time for all that and do things as simple as the hillbilly moonshiners do.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/2SM1IIH9F_o/w-d-xo.html

  • @willwest4538
    @willwest4538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my gallon air still for water it makes a pint in less than an hour lol

  • @alexwagoner285
    @alexwagoner285 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much corn would you recommend to use for a 5 gallon mash if i wanted to use no other grains?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From my tests here using heavily cracked corn (not quite milled, larger chunks), no sugar or other grains whatsoever, and using high temperature liquid enzymes instead of powdered amalayse. It was 2 pounds of corn per gallon of water. Pretty much the same process as I used here, but the application of the enzymes is different (have to follow the bottle's instructions).

  • @nguyengiangson1748
    @nguyengiangson1748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks your video! May i know the name of the second distill machine?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C8RC3TK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  • @kenstar1862
    @kenstar1862 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if you talked about the PH level of your wash since the yeast likes an environment of around 5-6 pH level

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm on well water (7.5 to 8 pH) and as you probably know, it's loaded with carbonates and fighting pH levels is a battle that ends and restarts every minute. I gave up fighting with pH levels in my aquaponics system a long time ago and just chose to grow things that work with my pH. So far, every yeast I've used is able to adapt to it as well.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/2SM1IIH9F_o/w-d-xo.html

  • @anarchytelevision8445
    @anarchytelevision8445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious how did you make your cuts? Four shots heads hearts tails

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same way they do it in a commercial distillery, see the video right before this one, #4 in the play list.

  • @Borland12345
    @Borland12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series! Did you describe how you mix up the heads, hearts and tails of the distillation? Also assuming you threw out the foreshots?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes...That question tells me that you didn't watch all 5 of the videos. But it's all covered.

    • @Borland12345
      @Borland12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PanhandlePonics I clicked next through but I guess I missed the later ones - I guess your first run was a stripping run then you did that when you used the air still?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably not a stripping run by definition of what others call a stripping run. The wash was reading about 18% before it went into the 5 gallon still and then everything after that was distilled a second time in the air still. Now I just use a T500 and do the whole thing in one shot. I gave the other 5 gallon still to a friend.

  • @webcrawler3332
    @webcrawler3332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid series on this! Awesome! Curios, You don’t make cuts on your final spirit run? How do you separate your heads, hearts and tails if you’re running straight through the night unattended?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video that you're commenting on is a second distillation, so that wouldn't be necessary because it was already taken care of in the first distillation.

    • @webcrawler3332
      @webcrawler3332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PanhandlePonics oh so you made all your cuts in the stripping run?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also didn't do a stripping run. They don't do that stuff in commercial distilleries, there's a lot of things that are only done in TH-cam videos that they don't do in commercial distilleries. Old moonshiners also never did half of the things that you see people do in TH-cam videos.

    • @dannyharrison7591
      @dannyharrison7591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webcrawler3332 you'd only make cuts on single distillation. With double-distillation you don't need to make any cuts

  • @jonfitz8280
    @jonfitz8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long did it take for you to drip in the airstill

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always give it 4 hours. I start at 82C and progressively ramp it up to 90C so it runs the last hour at 90C. When there's nothing more coming out of it, you usually end up right at 140 proof and pretty much nothing but water left in the air still.

  • @madhavendrasingh4816
    @madhavendrasingh4816 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir, how to separate methanol from ethanol during distillation.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Methanol has a lower boiling temperature than ethanol, which means it comes out first. This is often referred to as foreshots (some people like to think that's the heads). You just throw out whatever comes out before the boiling temperature of ethanol. It's really not much to worry about even if you don't, there's not enough to poison you. There's more naturally occurring methanol in a gallon of apple juice than there is in 5 gallons of fermented whiskey mash. This is covered in an earlier video in this playlist.

    • @bemky309
      @bemky309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PanhandlePonics Finally someone who understands this. Im tired of hearing people say if you dont take out the foreshots youll die.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a lot of bullshit perpetuated in this field by self-proclaimed master distillers. The ones that really crack me up are the people who insist that air locks are an absolute necessity and how you have to worry about your mash turning into vinegar. I've actually tried, it evaporated first. I must just not be lucky enough to have the necessary bacteria floating around in the air here.

  • @Crocketts45
    @Crocketts45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. How much did you discard on the 2nd distillation?

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing to discard, ethanol was already removed in the first distillation.

  • @mikec4585
    @mikec4585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it is I drink mine right off the still and it tastes good remember the old timers only distilled once

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only use this thing for making gin now. After I switched to a T-500 still, I get much cleaner results than I got with that stainless steel milk can still.

  • @markcilli9321
    @markcilli9321 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the brand of the air still

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seeutek, but Amazon shows it as no longer available. But there are lots of other ones from different brands that have adjustable temperature control.

    • @maker-restorer
      @maker-restorer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Air still sold by still spirits is a popular brand@@PanhandlePonics

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I just wanted one that was adjustable instead of their one-trick-pony air stills.

  • @crosisofborg5524
    @crosisofborg5524 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like fun but for the amount of hooch you get in the end the cost of making it is 3x what you pay for name brand whiskey.

    • @PanhandlePonics
      @PanhandlePonics  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're completely way off on that assumption, and the end result is a hell of a lot better than anything that's mass produced and sold in retail outlets. It's pretty easy to fool yourself into that kind of conclusion if you've never tried to do it yourself. I have 3 TH-cam channels and I see comments like this all the time (aka: Internet Sour Grapes Syndrome).

    • @vikkic3730
      @vikkic3730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You obviously didn't pay attention, or only paid attention until you saw something that looked too hard to do. Out of a run like this, I end up with a gallon of 130 proof moonshine. A gallon of 80 proof Jim Beam costs more than the ingredients here cost, even a gallon of the cheap no-name stuff costs more.

    • @LordLarryWho
      @LordLarryWho ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a lot like saying that you'd rather go buy a Big Mac than obtain and cook a premium steak. By the way, where are you getting your figures from? You know why they say some things are as cheap as chicken feed? Guess what the ingredients here actually are. I'll save you the research, they're exactly the same things that make chicken feed.