I have lived in Mongolia for the past 5 years. I can say that, in whatever discipline to which they apply themselves, Mongolians must eventually emerge in the superior position. These people are amazing-- intellectually, morally, physically and artistically. It is a great privilege to live among them. Thanks for this wonderful video!
@@denis3208 I have never encountered this. A numberof years ago, there were many reports of public attacks on Chinese due to effects of economic warfare. But this hasn't happened lately. I think these things may occur but not at an exceptional rate.
Learned judo in school. First few classes were learning how to fall down correctly without hurt and pain. Two years later l had a slip and fell hard on concrete in college. Suppose to be hurt but Judo instinct took over in mid air and l did a judo landing, got up and walked away as if nothing happened while my friends stood stunt.
20 yrs after my last judo class I went on a mountain bike ride. Going downhill I flipped over the front handles. Instinct took over and I tucked my head and did a front roll and walked away with barely a scratch. Prob would’ve broken my neck without judo.
@@phobowl I think it is correct to start learning Judo from scratch like falling and rolling without getting hurt. You can actually use it for life, and not juz in the dojos. After learning how to fall, we learned to roll. After we were good at it, our sensei taught us how to jump over a chair ( with back rest ) and landing with a roll. We spend the first 3 months juz learning how to fall and roll. Nobody complained bcoz everyone knew these basics are crucial when we start throwing one another.
Will save u for decades to come. Have a old friend learned judo during teenage, saved him self in a accident around 40. (While being away from the sport completely over two decades) Repetitions and habits built can be used for life
You misunderstood something here and did not watch the video till the end. One thing is physical toughness and another is subtlety of technique. My Judo teacher at 230 lb used to walk on my tummy when I was 12 years old.
So you gained the superpower of being alright when a huge guy mistakes you for a piece of sidewalk but at the cost of reading too deeply into TH-cam comment yuk-yuks?
@M T Pretty much. I used to carry and had other friends who carried when we went to bad parts of Atlanta. Despite many of us being armed and one of us being an Army Ranger 11B with recent combat experience, we had a standing agreement that if anyone tried to mug us our reaction would be calmly handing over our shit followed by "Thank you sir/madam, have a nice night" followed by a brisk power-walk in the other direction. Self-defense is for protecting life and limb, not material possessions and/or a bruised ego.
why do people say and believe this?? i tried judo for a month and couldn't throw anyone. a guy with just as much experience as me but was like 50lbs heavier than me, threw me twice which told me this art is weight dependent so if your assailant outweighs you by like 50lbs in the streets judo AIN'T working you are not defying physics
@@fallback8314 Well if you are a beginner you don't have a good grasp of the techniques... i'm a big guy and I regularly get destroyed by much smaller people - and so do other people. I do BJJ (beginner here as well) and Japanese Jujutsu - but the Japanese Jujutsu is a kind of Jujutsu that is basically Judo. They also teach Judo. I wouldn't want to mess with anyone who has been doing Judo or BJJ for two years or more...
Agreed. As a boxer I was trained to hit people with my fists…judo trains to hit people with the earth. Complete devastation; without question coupled with the fact that 99.9% of people have no idea how to fall properly.
@@maxmg2227 It may not. But it's still a tragedy to cut away actual effective street defense techniques that the founders intended on teaching. You could even say it's a frustrating political move, just because Japan wanted to keep the art "flashy" during competition. Whatever the reason, it was not worth discouraging such effective leg grab techniques. Unfortunate and silly, and one of the only reasons why I switched to Wrestling from Judo.
@@nimkal I understand what you mean when you say you "switched" from wrestling to Judo as a sport. But remember. These sports are all rooted in combat and in ancient war. You cannot ever switch from that. Do the Judo that the Judo was made for.
@@traininggrounds9450 Lol you absolutely can switch from one art to another. The grappling experience always helps. Also you basically focused on the most irrelevant part of my comment and missed the main point I was making about Judo changes. Unfortunate, maybe read again and bring up something more interesting to discussion.
This reminds me of the time when in competition we didn't have to worry more about getting a shido than actually scoring an ippon. If I have a wish, it would be for the IJF to re-review the current rules and techniques and decide to bring back the old system and the classic techniques that they took away. Great video
Ghekins Khan is proud. Mongolian wrestling is also very wide spread in Mongolia but I cant say if it's more close to judo or shou jiao. the Mongolian girl that you showed had a lineage go back to oda, grappling kingdom have a video about her, Mongolian are good at newaza and have keep alive a lot teachniques of oda.
it actually makes sense that it is similar to shou jiao since shou jiao is more popular in northern china, where has frequent interaction with nomads like mongolian. A huge number of chinese at northern china are actually even mixed of mongolian and chinese, kinda like russian. also fun fact is that china was dominated by nomad dynasties most of the time.
I met and rolled with a Mongolian judo practitioner and wrestler. He was a 50 year old man with the worst cauliflower I've ever seen. His name was pronounced yindoshe. He won his weight and age category in both judo and freestyle wrestling. Wonderful guy and just an old school killer. We met at the world police fire games in Chengdu China 2019
@@Chadi cool story is he didnt speak anythimg besides Mongolian. He was a firefighter and we spoke through gestures. So this guy almost walks into the middle of the street when the no walking sign was ckearly present. I had to pull him back and he looked at me like he didn't understand what the sign meant haha. Im not sure what city or area he was from but Mongolia is one of the most isolated places in the world so maybe he was unfamiliar with such signs. A third of the population in Mongolia is nomadic. He showed me photos of him wearing this like traditional mongolian attire next to tent wagons and a dude on a big wooden throne. Second story. We had to sit through a 7 hour opening ceremony and me amd some Australian people tried to leave. The security tried to force us to stay because of fireworks. So yindoshe taps my shoulder and im like "yo whats up" so the security is literally arms locked ready to block us in and yindoshe looks at me and makes a running motion with foot sounds and shakes his head up and down. My dude was ready to try his luck on foreign soil during an international event lol. I had to cool my guy down. He was such a rebel haha.
Your video, especially the footage from matches, really impressed upon me the physical abilities of judoka. They don't just need strength and agility, but flexibility, balance, and coordination in spades, too. Their agility is especially amazing; sometimes it's like you can't even see what they're doing until it's over, just a gi-colored blur! It must take so much dedication to reach that level of fitness. I love it!
Brother, your channel is amazing. I have been searching out judo styles that can be effective in judo, mma, or self-defensel(albeit with minor adjustments, of course) .It is tough to cover all those with one style, but your comparison videos are very helpful. Many people are interested in the martial art side, and not in the Olympics.
Great content. As a former Judo black belt I enjoyed how you not only portrayed a beautiful martial art but also how you went into tradition and difference in techniques. I believe that a black belt in Judo together with BJJ are among the toughest to get. We've seen Judo sweeps practised in MMA by Khabib, DC and Khamzat Chimaev among others.
Excellent. Helps that they are as strong as bulls too. The Uki Otoshi in competition was raw power. Only saw World Champion Anton Geesink from the Netherlands in Japan throwing 100kg plus guys in Kodokan Dojo with it,.
Great video. However, you have to remember, there is nothing new with these techniques. I'm sure the old judoka at the Kodokan were using these techniques and different grip variations in the past. It's cool that we are getting to see judo players from around the world rediscovering these forgotten techniques thanks to platforms like TH-cam.
Mongolian wrestling is a very rich history so it's little wonder that Mongolians transition so well to Judo...Traditional archery & wrestling as well as horse riding are in the Mongolian DNA very strong. One other country with very strong Judo is Israel. Israeli Judo is also very strong.
great video. the chin strap to inside trip is a move I have seen wrestlers do as well. I never thought of it as dangerous, as I feel I can just go with the flow if caught in it, resisting it may be a problem though.
Judo can be good fora great self defense. Like boxing it has an end game not just limitation. Very interesting video.I studied many disciples for over 50 years. I can honestly say that forms of wrestling and grappling are by far the most effective at close quarter where there is no weapon. As a kid I studied judo, followed later boxing unarmed combat later still several styles of Kung Fu trained by masters. They are all good to a point but the disciplines have to be made to the individuals size weight etc. I'm old now but reminds me of the past. Enjoyed this Thanks
@@Chadi also have you seen Mongolian women? They're not only beautiful but they're also just as tough and hardy as the men, mongols truly are a warrior race
Mongolians also are literally born wrestling, they do all types of wrestling over there (they even have yokozunas in sumo), even the old ladys over there know how to wrestle, they were a warrior culture . The japanese did an amazing documentary on mongolian judo and Kazbaatar lives a very rural,hard working way of life. I think is not just the gripping ,or creativity , its all their way of life and culture , i have a lot of respect for mongolians. Also the cultural factor is very important , other countries start judo maybe at a young age but is a hobby or a side activity and only a few will be pros , in Mongolia wrestling is part of their life, Dajestan is another example , they probably learn to fight before reading. Love your channel Chadi!
I honestly didn't know that Mongolia had a bare handed martial art! I knew about their strong Archery tradition and some bladed martial arts for warfare but I didn't know that they also have a form of empty handed martial arts.
How to compare Mongolian and Japanese judo: Mongolia has 3 million inhabitants and Japan has 125 million. If Mongolia wins one medal in Judo, Japan have to win 41 medals to be equal to Mongolia.
Munkhbat is certainly a captivating newaza player There's a versatility to her newaza techniques featuring submissions that work for many other martial arts Japanese Judo girls are also very good at newaza But their newaza techniques are basically so Judo pinning-specific that it must seem less attractive to MMA or BJJ guys Be that as it may,Pinnig strategy is the most sound method to win on the ground at least in Judo competitions
Awesome demonstration in this video. The Mongolian female judoist would make a superb bodyguard, especially if given those blades used in the SE islands like Phillipine. Bottomline, just goes to show how easy it is to kill someone literally if the proper technique is applied.....(thanks for the warning, too many punks and wannabes always trying to be cute not realizing the potential for death/wheelchair incapacity using these deadly moves on each other).
I believe Nyam Ochir Sainjargal also planted Ono in 2011 with Uchi Mata. Do you think it would be worthwhile to train this style, seems to me you think it’s severely underrated.
I'm waiting to see if anyone comes out with any kinds of instruction for instructional videos on Mongolian Judo grip techniques. I read that the Mongolians and also the Koreans have very unique grip strategies for Judo
you can find @thousandholds on instagram and message them they know far more about Mongolian grappling, and you can find mongolian Judo on fighting films/superstar Judo
@@Chadi exactly, they always inclined on carnivore diet since of their source of food are more on with the livestock so expect to get more proteins from that but despite of those they are very hospitable
Hey chadi, love your videos, i have a question, are quite familiar with judo rules post 2012? is the front headlock/guillotine grip legal? I have been doing it lately in practice but my instructor insists that its illegal,
It's interesting how much Mongolian Judo and Brazilian Jui Jitsu resemble each other in the stand up now, I think both arts came to the same conclusion that Wrestling grips don't care about your Sleeve and Lapel grips. Traditional Judoka just can't fight at that range, compared to modern grapplers who cross train.
It's not that Japanese judo is missing something, the fact is less garment the more people instinctively go for under/over hooks even samurais which i discussed in this video, with the lack of gi they hooked the armour, same with wrestling mongolian or not, less garment leads to more hooking, but judokas can fight on all ranges, different techniques require different grips like the suplex is different than uchi mata and Japanese and others are still beating mongolians. Gi bjj relies a lot on the cross grip with sleeve, far more than hooks which is used in no gi. Another example is Georgians which also rely on their wrestling in Judo but use a traditional sleeve and lapel and fight on all ranges. The point is judo has all ranges depending on the grips a belt grip with a sleeve is different than lapel and sleeve.
@@Chadi Put an Olympic Judoka into a rashguard and see what happens, a lack of cross training creates weaknesses in stand up because Judoka's don't have the same spacial awareness as Wrestlers when limbs are bound. BJJ uses more Underhooks than Cross Collar Grips, the passing game and half guard game are built on them. The sport has gravitated so far from Judo and towards Wrestling that most of the stand uo game, if there is one at all, tends to favor establishing grips that can transition directly into ground work. Cross Collar is certainly strong in stand up and from guard, but it isn't a foundation of the sport and tends to get de-emphasized in favor of learning grips that transition from Gi to No Gi.
The scenario of olympic judoka in a rashguard can be said also to the 10th planet jj guy who was put in a gi, when you're not in your element of course you'll struggle, but it can be fixed with cross training like you said but you can still bring what learned from judo to mma self defense no gi etc, because in judo you throw with your whole body not just the grip, all you need is adjusting the grips which is not everything in judo, Parisyan Rousey Harrison did wonders with their judo background in MMA they adjusted their grips of course cause there's no gi which is evident.
@@Chadi We're more or less in agreement, if you want to have an advantage in one sport then you use the grip the opponent is least familiar with. To that affect, hooks are a meta that other Judoka aren't as knowledgeable of in the Gi. I'd give better odds to the Wrestler in the Gi than the Judoka in the rashguard though, because every thing carries over for the Wrestler. Rousey and Karo are really specific cases, they were both cross trained in the Hayastan System from day one. Name a single Japanese Judoka who made the transition to MMA successfully, and you'll see what I mean. Yes it's entirely possible, but it's not like Olympic Judo programs are turning out MMA talent right now. Every thing is Folk and BJJ at the moment, and it says a lot when the best grapple in the sport with a black belt in Judo doesn't even bother to use it.
Me, a mongolophile: I mean mongolian judo and traditional wrestling is cool I guess but I'm more into horse archery, music and the language so I'm not planning to visit any clubs there This video: let me explain how bad of a mistake you're making
Mr. Chadi, I'm not a judo player nor can I judge the opponents skill but I can see what I see and this flavor of Judo appears to be quite strong and not very subtle. Thank you for sharing. Now, where can I get the leather Mongolian boots.
Very serious question. I have literally been searching for “the martial art for me”. I’ve tried wrestling, bjj, nak mui feerang , boxing, mma, and nothing excites me. This wakes up my fucking blood. This is the thing I would literally sell everything I own to drop and go devote my life to. So my question is, can you seriously tell a brother how to move to mongolia and learn this style of judo. I was legit going to buy a ticket to Japan with the money I was raising , but I’m moved. I want to go here. Edited. Yeah. I still mean it.
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I have lived in Mongolia for the past 5 years. I can say that, in whatever discipline to which they apply themselves, Mongolians must eventually emerge in the superior position. These people are amazing-- intellectually, morally, physically and artistically. It is a great privilege to live among them. Thanks for this wonderful video!
You're very lucky
I heard they like to beat up foreigners at night on the street, is it true ?
@@denis3208 I have never encountered this. A numberof years ago, there were many reports of public attacks on Chinese due to effects of economic warfare. But this hasn't happened lately. I think these things may occur but not at an exceptional rate.
@@RetroResearch Oh good I'm glad 😃
Hi Philip i am your student from Oros 3
Waiting till Mongolians make it into western mma
T. Pham there was a Mongolian who won in the UFC by ko in March. His name is Danaa Batgerel
MegaSkilla no. He won in the UFC.... you can literally check for yourself
MegaSkilla he beat Guido Cannetti on the UFC 248 undercard ... in round 1 with a left hook
Who cares about mma, not everybody need to fight mma, you mma/ufc fanboys are cringe
@@djangomatador9442 "fighting is lame, I want to see people pretend to fight"
WWE is calling for you sir
Learned judo in school. First few classes were learning how to fall down correctly without hurt and pain.
Two years later l had a slip and fell hard on concrete in college.
Suppose to be hurt but Judo instinct took over in mid air and l did a judo landing, got up and walked away as if nothing happened while my friends stood stunt.
Glad you're safe
@@Chadi Thank you.
20 yrs after my last judo class I went on a mountain bike ride. Going downhill I flipped over the front handles. Instinct took over and I tucked my head and did a front roll and walked away with barely a scratch. Prob would’ve broken my neck without judo.
@@phobowl I think it is correct to start learning Judo from scratch like falling and rolling without getting hurt. You can actually use it for life, and not juz in the dojos. After learning how to fall, we learned to roll. After we were good at it, our sensei taught us how to jump over a chair ( with back rest ) and landing with a roll.
We spend the first 3 months juz learning how to fall and roll. Nobody complained bcoz everyone knew these basics are crucial when we start throwing one another.
Will save u for decades to come.
Have a old friend learned judo during teenage, saved him self in a accident around 40. (While being away from the sport completely over two decades)
Repetitions and habits built can be used for life
"There's a lot of subtlety"
Shows a compilation of guys getting smacked in the stomach with a baseball bat.
You misunderstood something here and did not watch the video till the end. One thing is physical toughness and another is subtlety of technique. My Judo teacher at 230 lb used to walk on my tummy when I was 12 years old.
Had to laugh 🤣
So you gained the superpower of being alright when a huge guy mistakes you for a piece of sidewalk but at the cost of reading too deeply into TH-cam comment yuk-yuks?
It's just unfortunate editing
They were smacked, subtly.
Imagine using these techniques for self defence in a street fight, throwing people on concrete. The won't be getting up any time soon.
Indeed! Judo throws can easily be lethal
@M T Pretty much. I used to carry and had other friends who carried when we went to bad parts of Atlanta. Despite many of us being armed and one of us being an Army Ranger 11B with recent combat experience, we had a standing agreement that if anyone tried to mug us our reaction would be calmly handing over our shit followed by "Thank you sir/madam, have a nice night" followed by a brisk power-walk in the other direction.
Self-defense is for protecting life and limb, not material possessions and/or a bruised ego.
why do people say and believe this?? i tried judo for a month and couldn't throw anyone. a guy with just as much experience as me but was like 50lbs heavier than me, threw me twice which told me this art is weight dependent so if your assailant outweighs you by like 50lbs in the streets judo AIN'T working you are not defying physics
@@fallback8314 Well if you are a beginner you don't have a good grasp of the techniques... i'm a big guy and I regularly get destroyed by much smaller people - and so do other people.
I do BJJ (beginner here as well) and Japanese Jujutsu - but the Japanese Jujutsu is a kind of Jujutsu that is basically Judo. They also teach Judo.
I wouldn't want to mess with anyone who has been doing Judo or BJJ for two years or more...
Agreed. As a boxer I was trained to hit people with my fists…judo trains to hit people with the earth.
Complete devastation; without question coupled with the fact that 99.9% of people have no idea how to fall properly.
this explains why the Japanese had to make rules to limit the amount of Mongolians in sumo wrestling
The leg tackling restrictions have nothing to do with mongolian judo
@@maxmg2227 It may not. But it's still a tragedy to cut away actual effective street defense techniques that the founders intended on teaching. You could even say it's a frustrating political move, just because Japan wanted to keep the art "flashy" during competition. Whatever the reason, it was not worth discouraging such effective leg grab techniques. Unfortunate and silly, and one of the only reasons why I switched to Wrestling from Judo.
@@nimkal I understand what you mean when you say you "switched" from wrestling to Judo as a sport. But remember. These sports are all rooted in combat and in ancient war. You cannot ever switch from that. Do the Judo that the Judo was made for.
@@traininggrounds9450 Lol you absolutely can switch from one art to another. The grappling experience always helps. Also you basically focused on the most irrelevant part of my comment and missed the main point I was making about Judo changes. Unfortunate, maybe read again and bring up something more interesting to discussion.
Mongolians are naturally tall and fat with much better muscle structure, so this makes them better at some sports.
I love Mongolian Judo, I love the creative nature of the techniques they use. They know the rules so that they can re write them. Inspiring.
Indeed
This reminds me of the time when in competition we didn't have to worry more about getting a shido than actually scoring an ippon. If I have a wish, it would be for the IJF to re-review the current rules and techniques and decide to bring back the old system and the classic techniques that they took away. Great video
Thank you Damien
@@Chadi You're very welcome Sir. I enjoyed your video alot. If you have patreon I will definitely support you
Ghekins Khan is proud. Mongolian wrestling is also very wide spread in Mongolia but I cant say if it's more close to judo or shou jiao. the Mongolian girl that you showed had a lineage go back to oda, grappling kingdom have a video about her, Mongolian are good at newaza and have keep alive a lot teachniques of oda.
I didn't know that about Munkhbat, thank you, i admire them a lot
it actually makes sense that it is similar to shou jiao since shou jiao is more popular in northern china, where has frequent interaction with nomads like mongolian. A huge number of chinese at northern china are actually even mixed of mongolian and chinese, kinda like russian. also fun fact is that china was dominated by nomad dynasties most of the time.
I met and rolled with a Mongolian judo practitioner and wrestler. He was a 50 year old man with the worst cauliflower I've ever seen. His name was pronounced yindoshe. He won his weight and age category in both judo and freestyle wrestling. Wonderful guy and just an old school killer. We met at the world police fire games in Chengdu China 2019
You're very lucky
@@Chadi cool story is he didnt speak anythimg besides Mongolian. He was a firefighter and we spoke through gestures. So this guy almost walks into the middle of the street when the no walking sign was ckearly present. I had to pull him back and he looked at me like he didn't understand what the sign meant haha. Im not sure what city or area he was from but Mongolia is one of the most isolated places in the world so maybe he was unfamiliar with such signs. A third of the population in Mongolia is nomadic. He showed me photos of him wearing this like traditional mongolian attire next to tent wagons and a dude on a big wooden throne.
Second story. We had to sit through a 7 hour opening ceremony and me amd some Australian people tried to leave. The security tried to force us to stay because of fireworks. So yindoshe taps my shoulder and im like "yo whats up" so the security is literally arms locked ready to block us in and yindoshe looks at me and makes a running motion with foot sounds and shakes his head up and down. My dude was ready to try his luck on foreign soil during an international event lol. I had to cool my guy down. He was such a rebel haha.
As a huge fan of folk styles of wrestling I really enjoy the way you display the integration of these styles into judo.
Your video, especially the footage from matches, really impressed upon me the physical abilities of judoka. They don't just need strength and agility, but flexibility, balance, and coordination in spades, too. Their agility is especially amazing; sometimes it's like you can't even see what they're doing until it's over, just a gi-colored blur! It must take so much dedication to reach that level of fitness. I love it!
I'm glad
Chadi, this video is absolutely amazing. You are such an authority on judo. Thank you for doing the Mongolian style justice!
Thank you Andrew, I still have a lot to learn.
It’s so good because it’s infused with not only traditional judo but also traditional Mongolian wrestling
That's exactly what makes it special
I had heard of Mongolian wrestling before and immediately thought of its use in Judo!
Chadi
Does it beat Russia’s?
@@SameLif3, not martial arts, but fighters beat each other.
Awesome show. Traditional Mongolian arts with judo- priceless!! Thanks 🙏
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Mongolian people are great with strong traditions and customs especially their warrior arts!
Indeed
I recently started judo some months ago and I love learning so much about it! This was honestly such a cool video! Just subscribed!!
Thank you Baustin!
Mongols watching the Olympics: *sees Judo* “Oh, we can do that one! Let’s do that one!”
I've been to Mongolia. Beautiful country.
Yes it is absolutely gorgeous
Brother, your channel is amazing. I have been searching out judo styles that can be effective in judo, mma, or self-defensel(albeit with minor adjustments, of course) .It is tough to cover all those with one style, but your comparison videos are very helpful. Many people are interested in the martial art side, and not in the Olympics.
Thank you Aaron, yes i try to go beyond sports and olympics
I notice your popularity seems to growing. It's well deserved, all your research is very appreciated.
Yes, they have a blend and favorite techniques.
Unorthodox style which is brilliant
@@Chadi Absolutely
Great content. As a former Judo black belt I enjoyed how you not only portrayed a beautiful martial art but also how you went into tradition and difference in techniques. I believe that a black belt in Judo together with BJJ are among the toughest to get. We've seen Judo sweeps practised in MMA by Khabib, DC and Khamzat Chimaev among others.
Thank you
Great video and I absolutely try to implement some form of Mongolian judo in my classes.
Thank you
Excellent. Helps that they are as strong as bulls too. The Uki Otoshi in competition was raw power. Only saw World Champion Anton Geesink from the Netherlands in Japan throwing 100kg plus guys in Kodokan Dojo with it,.
I love Mongolian Style Judo. Its very much a part of Judo game.
I miss my Mongolian friends I met in Vietnam looking at this video.
Absolutely great insight. I've seen some documentries on bohk and it's great to see where that has translated into judo.
Thank you Michael
Traditional Kung Fu has a *very* healthy respect for Mongolian wrestlers...they were absolute wreckers
I've trained mma for 20 years. Mongolian judo dudes are about as hard as a coffin nail.
Great video. However, you have to remember, there is nothing new with these techniques. I'm sure the old judoka at the Kodokan were using these techniques and different grip variations in the past. It's cool that we are getting to see judo players from around the world rediscovering these forgotten techniques thanks to platforms like TH-cam.
Yes I'm aware of that hence why i mentioned nage no kata over and under hooks
Awesome information Chadi
Thank you!
Awesome video. I have been saying this for a while, but not with your level of knowledge.
Mongolian wrestling is a very rich history so it's little wonder that Mongolians transition so well to Judo...Traditional archery & wrestling as well as horse riding are in the Mongolian DNA very strong. One other country with very strong Judo is Israel. Israeli Judo is also very strong.
Yes Muki and paltchik are great examples
The Mongols have a very ancient style of wrestling called Bokh. Without a doubt it influenced their version of Judo.
Indeed!
Crazy video. Can you please make such a video about Russian or Georgian judo?
You got it
Thank you for your content Chadi! New judoka. Loving it all.
Thank you so much
Amazing video, as mainly a bjj guy that has done some judo I definitely love the use of underhooks and whizzers.
Incredible style for sure
Guy 1: What if we take a cool thing... and make it cooler.
Guy 2: How?
Guy 1: Mongolians.
Guys 2: Holy shit.
great video. the chin strap to inside trip is a move I have seen wrestlers do as well. I never thought of it as dangerous, as I feel I can just go with the flow if caught in it, resisting it may be a problem though.
Yes resisting can cause a lot problem
Excellent Video. Thank you so much for your information about Mongolian Style Judo.
Thank you for listening
A cross between baseball and judo
Judo can be good fora great self defense. Like boxing it has an end game not just limitation.
Very interesting video.I studied many disciples for over 50 years. I can honestly say that forms of wrestling and grappling are by far the most effective at close quarter where there is no weapon. As a kid I studied judo, followed later boxing unarmed combat
later still several styles of Kung Fu trained by masters. They are all good to a point but the disciplines have to be made to the individuals size weight etc. I'm old now but reminds me of the past. Enjoyed this Thanks
Thank you for sharing your story
Wrestling a mongol has been on my bucket list for a long time. Not sure about the underwear with moon boots look but if that has to be part of it...
I just love everything about Mongolia, they're the tough and hardy peoples of Asia, they're like Asian Vikings.
Genghis Khan descendants
@@Chadi yep, descendants of one the greatest if not the greatest conqueror of all time. I'm kinda jealous
@@Chadi also have you seen Mongolian women? They're not only beautiful but they're also just as tough and hardy as the men, mongols truly are a warrior race
Ancient Mongolian wrestling also has a place in the origins of Sumo, Jujitsu, & Judo!🥋
Yes
This warrior beautiful!!
Mongolians also are literally born wrestling, they do all types of wrestling over there (they even have yokozunas in sumo), even the old ladys over there know how to wrestle, they were a warrior culture . The japanese did an amazing documentary on mongolian judo and Kazbaatar lives a very rural,hard working way of life. I think is not just the gripping ,or creativity , its all their way of life and culture , i have a lot of respect for mongolians. Also the cultural factor is very important , other countries start judo maybe at a young age but is a hobby or a side activity and only a few will be pros , in Mongolia wrestling is part of their life, Dajestan is another example , they probably learn to fight before reading. Love your channel Chadi!
I honestly didn't know that Mongolia had a bare handed martial art! I knew about their strong Archery tradition and some bladed martial arts for warfare but I didn't know that they also have a form of empty handed martial arts.
Nice video, Naidan is a great example and since his performance in 2008 many believe the rules changes were speeded up. Thank´s for the video.
I appreciate it
Beautiful video.
I would love to learn Mongolian Judo! 😊
Same
How to compare Mongolian and Japanese judo: Mongolia has 3 million inhabitants and Japan has 125 million. If Mongolia wins one medal in Judo, Japan have to win 41 medals to be equal to Mongolia.
They're definitely doing something right, tough people
If you take a deep look into their country its honestly quite sad; They got nothing else to do but sports.
I'd totally take Mongolian Judo if there was a dojo actually I'm my country ._.
Wow! Great analysis
Thank you Mark
People: this is so underrated
Genghis khan: hold my beer
Them Mongolians are some tough dudes!
Indeed
6:07 jesus that puts the ouch in ouchi
Please do not try this
@@Chadi I will not, I do not want to kill my uke
They really put the OW in Ouch!
Munkhbat is certainly a captivating newaza player
There's a versatility to her newaza techniques featuring submissions that work for many other martial arts
Japanese Judo girls are also very good at newaza
But their newaza techniques are basically so Judo pinning-specific that it must seem less attractive to MMA or BJJ guys
Be that as it may,Pinnig strategy is the most sound method to win on the ground at least in Judo competitions
Pinning works great in mma when followed by punching and eventually sub
Very cool video.
Nice shout-out to Irish Collar and Elbow!
Awesome demonstration in this video. The Mongolian female judoist would make a superb bodyguard, especially if given those blades used in the SE islands like Phillipine. Bottomline, just goes to show how easy it is to kill someone literally if the proper technique is applied.....(thanks for the warning, too many punks and wannabes always trying to be cute not realizing the potential for death/wheelchair incapacity using these deadly moves on each other).
Thank you for the insight
The Mongolian Judoka was the most competitive against the genius Ono during this Olympics
Tsendochir Tsogtbaatar
Very nice!
Would love to learn their style of judo.
It looks a lot like Bao Ding Shuai Jiao, which isn't too surprising I guess since it also developed from Mongolian Wrestling.
Exactly
I’m actually a practitioner of Mexican Judo... Judo know who you messin with homles...
Is your sensei jessie?
Those ladies look like they were doinf JuiJitsu. Doing a Judo move like this on concrete would be devastating.
I believe Nyam Ochir Sainjargal also planted Ono in 2011 with Uchi Mata. Do you think it would be worthwhile to train this style, seems to me you think it’s severely underrated.
0:01 Forbiden in judo (underbelt handling)
What is the beat playing??? It’s is fire! Made an already great video sound good too. Thanks for sharing.
Mongolian wrestling is def the best dressed martial art
Hakuho and Asashoryu are Mongolians too.
LOL! Narrator: "It's [Mongolian Judo] elegant..." Video shows one practitioner beating another in the torso with a baseball bat.
I'm waiting to see if anyone comes out with any kinds of instruction for instructional videos on Mongolian Judo grip techniques. I read that the Mongolians and also the Koreans have very unique grip strategies for Judo
Superstar Judo has them
@@Chadi excellent thank you very much!
I think it looks very suttle and they stand upright looks very relaxed and quick
Exactly
@@Chadi kindly keep posting
@@kartiktiriya2612 will do
1:01 watch what he does with his feet as he trips him…intricately eloquent
I am 35 old and I bigan judo for 2 years. Ivdid taekwondo in the past but judo is more difficult if u re old like me.
Are they're any books on Bohk or Bokh (forgive the spelling) or Mongolian Judo on the whole? How about other Mongolian Arts? love it.
you can find @thousandholds on instagram and message them they know far more about Mongolian grappling, and you can find mongolian Judo on fighting films/superstar Judo
thats why many mongolians are becoming a sumo wrestler in japan, the foundation of their base combat sports are very strong yet underrated.
They are a strong people
@@Chadi exactly, they always inclined on carnivore diet since of their source of food are more on with the livestock so expect to get more proteins from that but despite of those they are very hospitable
@@jeanmckinzie2799 you eat a carnivore diet?
@@Chadi tried but not consistent lol
The guy who is hitting the stomach in the beginning is the president of mongolia.
Someone knows the title of the background song?
Matching well to video.
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It feels like Mongolian Judokas cross trained in Bokh/Mongolian Wrestling. Especially Judo and Bokh Wrestling are grappling with clothing.
Wonderful style, the smart throw of judo without his limits... as usually judo mafia will ban the collar like it did with legs techniques etc
Yes indeed! A wonderful style, hopefully nothing more gets banned
Mongolians have grappling in their blood. They excel at whatever grappling arts. The top sumo competitors are Mongolians too.
They’re badass wrestlers and sumo guys too. The whole country trains grappling as I understand. It’s in their blood.
Hey chadi, love your videos, i have a question, are quite familiar with judo rules post 2012? is the front headlock/guillotine grip legal? I have been doing it lately in practice but my instructor insists that its illegal,
Saw Utat(?) The lady before this vid she is a beast..such technical skill .
Indeed! Munkhbat
5:14
Looks like a perfect setup for an armbar assuming you don't get the ippon from the throw alone (or if you're in a different ruleset).
Kosen ruleset or ne waza competitions would be good for that armbar continuation
It's interesting how much Mongolian Judo and Brazilian Jui Jitsu resemble each other in the stand up now, I think both arts came to the same conclusion that Wrestling grips don't care about your Sleeve and Lapel grips. Traditional Judoka just can't fight at that range, compared to modern grapplers who cross train.
It's not that Japanese judo is missing something, the fact is less garment the more people instinctively go for under/over hooks even samurais which i discussed in this video, with the lack of gi they hooked the armour, same with wrestling mongolian or not, less garment leads to more hooking, but judokas can fight on all ranges, different techniques require different grips like the suplex is different than uchi mata and Japanese and others are still beating mongolians. Gi bjj relies a lot on the cross grip with sleeve, far more than hooks which is used in no gi. Another example is Georgians which also rely on their wrestling in Judo but use a traditional sleeve and lapel and fight on all ranges. The point is judo has all ranges depending on the grips a belt grip with a sleeve is different than lapel and sleeve.
@@Chadi Put an Olympic Judoka into a rashguard and see what happens, a lack of cross training creates weaknesses in stand up because Judoka's don't have the same spacial awareness as Wrestlers when limbs are bound.
BJJ uses more Underhooks than Cross Collar Grips, the passing game and half guard game are built on them. The sport has gravitated so far from Judo and towards Wrestling that most of the stand uo game, if there is one at all, tends to favor establishing grips that can transition directly into ground work. Cross Collar is certainly strong in stand up and from guard, but it isn't a foundation of the sport and tends to get de-emphasized in favor of learning grips that transition from Gi to No Gi.
The scenario of olympic judoka in a rashguard can be said also to the 10th planet jj guy who was put in a gi, when you're not in your element of course you'll struggle, but it can be fixed with cross training like you said but you can still bring what learned from judo to mma self defense no gi etc, because in judo you throw with your whole body not just the grip, all you need is adjusting the grips which is not everything in judo, Parisyan Rousey Harrison did wonders with their judo background in MMA they adjusted their grips of course cause there's no gi which is evident.
@@Chadi We're more or less in agreement, if you want to have an advantage in one sport then you use the grip the opponent is least familiar with. To that affect, hooks are a meta that other Judoka aren't as knowledgeable of in the Gi. I'd give better odds to the Wrestler in the Gi than the Judoka in the rashguard though, because every thing carries over for the Wrestler.
Rousey and Karo are really specific cases, they were both cross trained in the Hayastan System from day one. Name a single Japanese Judoka who made the transition to MMA successfully, and you'll see what I mean. Yes it's entirely possible, but it's not like Olympic Judo programs are turning out MMA talent right now. Every thing is Folk and BJJ at the moment, and it says a lot when the best grapple in the sport with a black belt in Judo doesn't even bother to use it.
Yikes, the angle her shoulder takes at 8:26 is nightmare fuel
Me, a mongolophile: I mean mongolian judo and traditional wrestling is cool I guess but I'm more into horse archery, music and the language so I'm not planning to visit any clubs there
This video: let me explain how bad of a mistake you're making
Great video, just wondering if the ground and submission work is also Mongolian judo?
Thank you! No it's just Japanese Ne Waza
1:06 how are they at a professional level
Yeah the heavier weight classes aren't known for being particularly elegant...
@@rhidiandavies1991 even in the smaller weight class, it has been a long time seems a Mongolian winning a gold
Congratulations!
Thank you!
I absolutely love the Mongolian team. Their style is my favorite 🤙❤️
Mr. Chadi, I'm not a judo player nor can I judge the opponents skill but I can see what I see and this
flavor of Judo appears to be quite strong and not very subtle. Thank you for sharing. Now, where
can I get the leather Mongolian boots.
MOngolian shop
I am Vietnamese judoka
Very serious question.
I have literally been searching for “the martial art for me”. I’ve tried wrestling, bjj, nak mui feerang , boxing, mma, and nothing excites me.
This wakes up my fucking blood. This is the thing I would literally sell everything I own to drop and go devote my life to.
So my question is, can you seriously tell a brother how to move to mongolia and learn this style of judo. I was legit going to buy a ticket to Japan with the money I was raising , but I’m moved. I want to go here.
Edited. Yeah. I still mean it.
Hahaha check out uransetseg munkhbat dominate on the ground totally awesome