Not really as someone who's practiced for decades in France, judo in schools is a joke, they don't do judo. The sports teachers "learn judo" during their bachelor's degree. Personally I think the reason why there are so many media is because the FFJDA is an effecient business
In France somehow judo became a sports anyone can enjoy regardless of gender, athletic ability, body size etc. That attracts people from all segments of the population, including those who are athletically talented or who could excel in any sports. In Japan, judo has been struggling to appeal to the broader population and still considered as sports for those who don't perform well in other sports.
@@ermining1 If you have practiced Judo in France for decades and the schools teaching are a joke, where to you practice to become good over the years ?
It’s just a part of the truth: When you have a real big community, you increase naturally the competition level, you facilitate business for added values (trainings / materials /etc) This + knowing that French judokas learn judo usually starting at 7 years old… That explains a lot
Outstanding video. My first sensei was French and I do all of these things in my judo as a result, but never realized they were part of a national style until I saw this.
As former doorman, the "horse collar" was a personal favorite ( especially with winter jackets ) because the entire body is subject to moving without wrenching the neck. It was unbelievably effective against large and small alike because the physical structure of the body had to adapt to the backside grip. As a Canuck you'll notice that most hockey fighters attempt to get the shirt over the head of their opponent. The collar grip is reminiscent of iriminage , and older forms of aikido and jujitsu. The throw at the 6:90 mark is reminiscent of ryote mochi kokyu nage ( aikido ). Back in my doorman days my judo always saved me. I rarely used my aikido. However, aikido taught me grace, the necessity of physical structure, centering power ( chosin rokyu) . You need both. All of the original aikido greats were all former judoka. IMHO it's why you don't see aikido greats of the present as you do with the past: tough, well trained judoka's familiar with the concept of "ju" then being taught "aiki" developing a true hard-soft style that was devastating. We need to get back to that ... unfortunately ... as an aikidoka ... I do not see this happening ... Peace.
I always wanted to train martial arts but never got a chance. What did u do for income while u were training? And how many hours did u put in everyday for how long? I wanted to go live in Japan to train but cannot afford to stop working, or start back from zero. Judo is not very popular in my country. The only team in existence exclusively trains professionals, if you cannot sacrifice at least 6-8 hrs a day, they don't want you. Kinda sucks.
I have been wondering about the perfect grappling for a bouncer. What you say aligns with my assumptions,but hockey fighting experience was another correlated topic that i could not find a person experienced enough to ask. Could you please go into more detail? I believe hockey style fighting develops specific clinching skills that ends up being useful in real confrontations,or clothed ruleset,like old Shotokan and Ashihara Karate. The sport of Dambe Boxing seems to be the long range version of this.
No doubt French judo is dominant. But the back grip and Teddy I just wouldn’t use as an example. Teddy is frigging 6’8. I’m not criticizing his ability, dude is a legend, but it’s easier for a 6’8 guy to be dominant with those grips than say a 5’8 dude against someone who is 6 feet My 2 cent observation.
! This is an important relevation moment for me: I finally know what I have been unconsously using for years !!! Back of the neck grip and constant pressure to the uke is the way to go! My sensei who had been throwing me like a ragdoll for 1,5 years (since I was a white belt) always used this grip and style and I picked it up unciousiously. Later on I tried various other gripping strat, but always go back for this, especially against tough opponents. Later on when I opened a small Judo club, I also passed this "style" on my students, also unconciously. Thank you, Mr. Chadi for such a good introduction and explaination 🤗
Great video ! In my experience, the strongest areas in French judo are the grip fighting and ne-waza. The latter is illustrated by Mr. Roux becoming the ne-waza coach for the Russian team for few years which saw a big improvement in that team, especially in the women's team. French judo is fairly classical, fairly close to Japanese judo (for historical reasons). You will rarely find a French judo who practices a different style, especially per weight class.
I love the video chadi. But why in the world did this vid contain such sinister music? I mean your portrayal with the music made this champion look evil or something. I understand that judo is deadly but I mean it's almost like mortal Kombat stage I expected him to stab his opponents on the spikes
Actually I think that it's not exclusively french. Maybe the french made those techniques famous. I think the neck grip is a european thing. Strong grip strong controll. I am german at least in my dojo we learn the neck grip and it s not uncommon to meet a neck grip player here
Well I heard many judo black belts that train with us jiujitsu and MMA and they say that the french fucked up judo , I don't really understand why but the majority say things like changes in judo , sportive judo and not so much a martial art like in the beginning... Well you are a black belt Chadi so you should know why they say those things maybe you have heard them too..
I love chafi videos because it saves you hour in the mat and years of training going to the main points also each time you came back to this chanel grow as a more intelectual and prepared grappler
.40 This neck grip to use against shorter opponent or . . opponent that bent forward. That's why, in older time, it's was advised not to bend foward. Always try to stand upright.
Come on Chadi, these grips are hardly unique to French judo. French judo to me is grip heavy. They like to break a lot of grips and attack off the grips a lot. These strategies make them like things like grip and go osoto, Kouchi makikomi, ippon seoi. Riner is the exception. I think his judo is very Japanese-like except for all the sutemi waza he does
Sans les féminines le Judo français ne voudrait pas grand chose. Il y a plein d'autres nations qui sont plus performantes avec un réservoir plus faible. Il faudrait se poser les bonnes questions.
In France, female athletes are far more successful in the world than male athletes And most of the successful female athletes are black On the other hand, the men's team isn't very active, except for Riner Unlike the women's team, the black players, except for Riner, haven't been very active France has a competitive population of nearly 600,000 and significant state support, So why can't the men's team perform up to those standards? The French men's team could have been as good as Russia or Georgia
I think Riner is an outstanding exception and somehow he outshadows the men's team. But it's an interesting question why the women's team seems to perform better. Questions around ethnicity are very intriguing as well.
French Judo? Is this some new Budo Iwe did not hear about?There is no French Judo, there is only one judo, and it is not french. Words are important, so be careful how you are using them. Now, speaking about judo level in France, is it on elite level? Y Maybe, but it's better to let others (not french) say it. Everyone can claim that level of judo in his country is elite, UK, USA, Korea, and let's not forget Russia, etc. Anyway, I support foreign judokas and their efforts, wherever they are, as Kano Jigoro sensei was emphasizing on 自他共栄 (mutual prosperity) , for all people and nations. Greetings from Tokyo
“It’s better to let others (not French) say it” Chadi lives in France but is not French, so what is your point? Also, why does it even matter, whether a claim is true or not is independent from who is making the claim. What matters are the facts. France has earned the 2nd highest number of medals in Judo in the history of the Olympics (number one is Japan), whether you look at all medals or only gold. Again in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, France was second behind Japan. Finally, yes there is only one Judo, no one is claiming that Judo is a French art, it’s a figure of speech. There are certain styles and ways of training that can differ from country to country. Chadi made similar videos on Mongolian, Korean and Chinese Judo. Again, it’s a figure of speech.
Total number of Olympic medals by country: 1. Japan 96 2. France 57 6. Soviet Union 23 7. Russia 16 Total number of Gold Olympic medals by country: 1. Japan 48 2. France 16 6. Soviet Union 5 7. Russia 5 Japan>France>South Korea>USSR+Russia>China And it is even unfair to add USSR and Russian medals because the USSR includes athletes from non-Russia countries
It's not all about the style but the fact that so many schools in France teach judo. They just have a bigger pool to find talented judoka.
Nailed it in one comment
Not really as someone who's practiced for decades in France, judo in schools is a joke, they don't do judo. The sports teachers "learn judo" during their bachelor's degree. Personally I think the reason why there are so many media is because the FFJDA is an effecient business
In France somehow judo became a sports anyone can enjoy regardless of gender, athletic ability, body size etc. That attracts people from all segments of the population, including those who are athletically talented or who could excel in any sports. In Japan, judo has been struggling to appeal to the broader population and still considered as sports for those who don't perform well in other sports.
@@ermining1 If you have practiced Judo in France for decades and the schools teaching are a joke, where to you practice to become good over the years ?
It’s just a part of the truth:
When you have a real big community, you increase naturally the competition level, you facilitate business for added values (trainings / materials /etc)
This + knowing that French judokas learn judo usually starting at 7 years old… That explains a lot
I learned judo from a French guy. I didnt realize the judo could make it two generations in America without changing much.
i also learned Judo from a French sensei. Though he tried making it traditonal.
@@DareToWonder it was alway considered traditional just seeing now the style influence
Outstanding video. My first sensei was French and I do all of these things in my judo as a result, but never realized they were part of a national style until I saw this.
0:40 - The invisible high grip
1:35 - Tsurite
4:00 - Parry
4:50 - Sleeve control
6:00 - Parry
7:45 - Variety of techniques
9:00 - Conclusion
Chadi, Outstanding presentation and lecture. I learned alot from this one. Thank you so much.
🙇🏻♂️
As former doorman, the "horse collar" was a personal favorite ( especially with winter jackets ) because the entire body is subject to moving without wrenching the neck. It was unbelievably effective against large and small alike because the physical structure of the body had to adapt to the backside grip. As a Canuck you'll notice that most hockey fighters attempt to get the shirt over the head of their opponent.
The collar grip is reminiscent of iriminage , and older forms of aikido and jujitsu. The throw at the 6:90 mark is reminiscent of ryote mochi kokyu nage ( aikido ).
Back in my doorman days my judo always saved me. I rarely used my aikido. However, aikido taught me grace, the necessity of physical structure, centering power ( chosin rokyu) . You need both. All of the original aikido greats were all former judoka. IMHO it's why you don't see aikido greats of the present as you do with the past: tough, well trained judoka's familiar with the concept of "ju" then being taught "aiki" developing a true hard-soft style that was devastating. We need to get back to that ... unfortunately ... as an aikidoka ... I do not see this happening ...
Peace.
interesting read buddy
I always wanted to train martial arts but never got a chance. What did u do for income while u were training? And how many hours did u put in everyday for how long? I wanted to go live in Japan to train but cannot afford to stop working, or start back from zero. Judo is not very popular in my country. The only team in existence exclusively trains professionals, if you cannot sacrifice at least 6-8 hrs a day, they don't want you. Kinda sucks.
John, I love your comments!
I have been wondering about the perfect grappling for a bouncer. What you say aligns with my assumptions,but hockey fighting experience was another correlated topic that i could not find a person experienced enough to ask.
Could you please go into more detail?
I believe hockey style fighting develops specific clinching skills that ends up being useful in real confrontations,or clothed ruleset,like old Shotokan and Ashihara Karate.
The sport of Dambe Boxing seems to be the long range version of this.
No doubt French judo is dominant. But the back grip and Teddy I just wouldn’t use as an example. Teddy is frigging 6’8. I’m not criticizing his ability, dude is a legend, but it’s easier for a 6’8 guy to be dominant with those grips than say a 5’8 dude against someone who is 6 feet
My 2 cent observation.
! This is an important relevation moment for me: I finally know what I have been unconsously using for years !!! Back of the neck grip and constant pressure to the uke is the way to go!
My sensei who had been throwing me like a ragdoll for 1,5 years (since I was a white belt) always used this grip and style and I picked it up unciousiously. Later on I tried various other gripping strat, but always go back for this, especially against tough opponents. Later on when I opened a small Judo club, I also passed this "style" on my students, also unconciously.
Thank you, Mr. Chadi for such a good introduction and explaination 🤗
🙇🏻♂️
Great video ! In my experience, the strongest areas in French judo are the grip fighting and ne-waza. The latter is illustrated by Mr. Roux becoming the ne-waza coach for the Russian team for few years which saw a big improvement in that team, especially in the women's team.
French judo is fairly classical, fairly close to Japanese judo (for historical reasons).
You will rarely find a French judo who practices a different style, especially per weight class.
The throws at 0:53 look effective ... a real fight ender . Respect sent to France Judo and all the best .
Merci Chadi, toujours très réussies tes vidéos !
Merci Kevin🙇🏻♂️🙏🏻
A lot of the best Judo athletes are from France 😄.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
I love the video chadi. But why in the world did this vid contain such sinister music? I mean your portrayal with the music made this champion look evil or something. I understand that judo is deadly but I mean it's almost like mortal Kombat stage I expected him to stab his opponents on the spikes
The French have always been formidable opponents. Your video Chadi answers the question Why. Thank you so much for sharing your martial wisdom.
Fascinating, thank you for pointing out the nuances of each!
When the arm is fully extended, a possible counter is a Ude- gatame elbow lock.
Great video
4:52 that O-soto was amazing!
Excellent Chadi!!!
Great video! I wish that such were available years ago when I was physically able to do judo!
Actually I think that it's not exclusively french. Maybe the french made those techniques famous. I think the neck grip is a european thing. Strong grip strong controll. I am german at least in my dojo we learn the neck grip and it s not uncommon to meet a neck grip player here
Back of the neck is the Nape btw. thats the name
I did the French grip last night in randori. Was crazy how controlling it is. I have a French player in my dojo he does this all of the time
Well I heard many judo black belts that train with us jiujitsu and MMA and they say that the french fucked up judo , I don't really understand why but the majority say things like changes in judo , sportive judo and not so much a martial art like in the beginning... Well you are a black belt Chadi so you should know why they say those things maybe you have heard them too..
Judo the way judo i am watched judo movies
Hey Chadi, have you been to 'Maison du Judo' in Lyon? I watched a big tournament held there back in '15. Nice Facility!
Can't wait for the British Judo video
I love chafi videos because it saves you hour in the mat and years of training going to the main points also each time you came back to this chanel grow as a more intelectual and prepared grappler
👌👍💪 from france
Wait. This is just a collar grip. Everyone who is bigger than his opponent or uses Uchimata loves to use this grip
.40 This neck grip to use against shorter opponent or . . opponent that bent forward.
That's why, in older time, it's was advised not to bend foward. Always try to stand upright.
brilliant.
Come on Chadi, these grips are hardly unique to French judo. French judo to me is grip heavy. They like to break a lot of grips and attack off the grips a lot. These strategies make them like things like grip and go osoto, Kouchi makikomi, ippon seoi. Riner is the exception. I think his judo is very Japanese-like except for all the sutemi waza he does
Just realized this video is 2 years old lol
Yes very grip heavy and it’s stressful fighting French pressure gripping, I go through it weekly 😫😄
6'17 : technique inventée par le japonais Hitoshi Sugai, champion du monde des mi-lourds en 1985 et 1987.
The french love to do osoto and harai goshi
The judoka walking in at the beginning is hardly native to France.
Exactly lol “ French”
Yes he is
Born in Guadeloupe wich is french territory as far as i know, so how is he not "native", can you explain ?
TEDY YOU ARE MY LİTL BRO
Drop Seonage is super big in Israel. I used to do it all the time!
Je croix que le judo française c superbe et c superieur d'autre styles de l'europe sauf le judo de la Russie.
Sauf tous les pays post soviétique je crois
Sans les féminines le Judo français ne voudrait pas grand chose. Il y a plein d'autres nations qui sont plus performantes avec un réservoir plus faible. Il faudrait se poser les bonnes questions.
French grips and georgian grips are the same or what??
Chadi please does an video on Pawel Nastula judo and mma, please friend.
Max was here.
How do I spell the name of this french guy? 2:08
Darcel Yandzi..
C'est bon
Noice!
The French have always been good at wrestling: in 1520 Henry VIII challenged Francis I to a wrestling match, which Henry quickly lost.
In France, female athletes are far more successful in the world than male athletes
And most of the successful female athletes are black
On the other hand, the men's team isn't very active, except for Riner
Unlike the women's team, the black players, except for Riner, haven't been very active
France has a competitive population of nearly 600,000 and significant state support,
So why can't the men's team perform up to those standards?
The French men's team could have been as good as Russia or Georgia
I think Riner is an outstanding exception and somehow he outshadows the men's team. But it's an interesting question why the women's team seems to perform better. Questions around ethnicity are very intriguing as well.
I’d like to see these guys try Bokh
Tell that to Japan. When last time french won a Japan title?
Like, the last time a French player won the All-Japan? Gee, I guess it's been a while now that you mention it
@@nicholasmccarthy137 😅😅😅
France could be a completely fictional place for all we know
It’s pretty simple to find out.
“French”. Right.
French Judo? Is this some new Budo Iwe did not hear about?There is no French Judo, there is only one judo, and it is not french. Words are important, so be careful how you are using them. Now, speaking about judo level in France, is it on elite level? Y Maybe, but it's better to let others (not french) say it. Everyone can claim that level of judo in his country is elite, UK, USA, Korea, and let's not forget Russia, etc. Anyway, I support foreign judokas and their efforts, wherever they are, as Kano Jigoro sensei was emphasizing on 自他共栄 (mutual prosperity) , for all people and nations. Greetings from Tokyo
“It’s better to let others (not French) say it”
Chadi lives in France but is not French, so what is your point? Also, why does it even matter, whether a claim is true or not is independent from who is making the claim. What matters are the facts.
France has earned the 2nd highest number of medals in Judo in the history of the Olympics (number one is Japan), whether you look at all medals or only gold. Again in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, France was second behind Japan.
Finally, yes there is only one Judo, no one is claiming that Judo is a French art, it’s a figure of speech. There are certain styles and ways of training that can differ from country to country. Chadi made similar videos on Mongolian, Korean and Chinese Judo. Again, it’s a figure of speech.
The best judo is the japonese judo and the russian. Not french
Total number of Olympic medals by country:
1. Japan 96
2. France 57
6. Soviet Union 23
7. Russia 16
Total number of Gold Olympic medals by country:
1. Japan 48
2. France 16
6. Soviet Union 5
7. Russia 5
Japan>France>South Korea>USSR+Russia>China
And it is even unfair to add USSR and Russian medals because the USSR includes athletes from non-Russia countries