I've decided that I need to just buy a dozen early 90's Buicks or Pontiacs with the 3800 and store all but one then just drive that vehicle forever added jasper transmissions as needed. There's honestly no reason for me personally to ever have a vehicle newer than that.
@raymond_sycamore That's why manufacturers don't focus on quality nearly as much. They invest instead in to "looking fresh".. Worked for Chrysler for a while..
@@calebbearup4282 The GM 3800 isn't as invincible as people think. They have certain commonly known issues, so be sure to watch out and do your preventative maintenance.
I was one of Jon’s early subscribers and I’ve enjoyed and been impressed by his extensive knowledge of the automotive industry. I’m going to be shopping for a sedan next year and I fully intend to reach out to him and let him help me make an informed decision. Great channel and finally someone who’s so relaxing to listen to.
I had a 2007 Nissan Altima. I was excited about it because I loved how it looked, it was the first brand new car I got to order from the factory and customize the options. Three days after I took delivery it as recalled, when I took it in for the recall appointment the dealership told me "We don't do loaner cars, you have to rent one from us." I told the guy at the counter "I just spent over $30K on this car that I took delivery of three days ago. You're telling me I have to pay for a rental while you fix a car that's already been recalled? If that's the case, keep the car and I'll talk with the manager to get my money back." They took care of the rental charges and took over two weeks to fix my car. Due to unfortunate family circumstances I had to get rid of the car less than a year later. Based on that experience and the fact that the CVT was horrible, I'd never get another Nissan.
Ghosn is just a sour guy. The Honda Mitsubishi Nissan partnership is mainly for software more than EV architecture. Nissan has great software so Honda probably wants to do what they can out of it. And Mitsubishi is just Nissan’s little brother in everything. I think the partnership would be great.
A terrific video. By the number of views and comments accumulated so quickly you must surely see how much people have hungered for the back story and for insightful analysis of all the many wheels that are turning in the U.S. auto industry at this time. I sincerely hope that you add this sort of video to your video channel. Thank you.
Yes, the views, comments, and click-through-rate is surprising me. I hear what you're saying! Trust me! In the past these type of videos have either done 1) very well or 2) bombed. There doesn't seem to be an appetite (at least from me) to do smaller 'in the news' videos focused on one thing. They *seem* to do better when several related issues can be combined and I can wrap an editorial around it. Thanks for the comment! :)
I have a ‘23 ALTIMA that I absolutely love. It’s a smooth and quiet sedan plus a decent highway car. Many people say it’s a boring car but to me that means smooth and quiet. I wanted a good size sedan not a hot rod. I actually like the CV transmission. It allows the engine to run nice and slow. Longer life and less noise. Plus no turbo to worry about. I don’t like the SENTRA since it’s too small for what I want. I take a generic approach to vehicles now. When the time comes to replace my car, whatever sedan this size or larger is available I’ll buy regardless of who builds it.
Nissan really gave CVT's a bad name because of their earlier problems(the newer ones have improved). If you look at Honda and Toyota, their CVT's are much better in terms of reliability.
With 45 years of motor vehicle experience as a dealer, dealership manager and auto leasing company owner I would point to the CVT failures as the number one reason for the downward spiral of Nissan. The management has made some terrible decisions along the way which has accelerated the downward trend.
Why does Toyota get praised for their "tried and true" method but Nissan gets slammed for not keeping up? In the US every other car on the road is a Nissan. Someone likes them.
@@Alan-lv9rw 100,000 miles is a minimum standard for anything in the 1960s and 1970s 400,000 miles is now the standard for quality. Yes your obviously 62
@@stephenjackman6163When I get near 200K I trade them in. 400K? I worked auto insurance claims for 36 years and the number of cars I saw with over 400K I could count on one hand. They’re extremely rare.
Somehow, Nissan got in early on EVs, and have a seriously compelling hybrid powertrain born out of that experience in EVs (e-Power).....yet they somehow couldn't leverage the early EV hype and the current hybrid boom to make decent bank. That's actually impressive.....in a negative way.
@@fyodor8008Been that way since the early 2010s. These cheaply made vehicles were all conceived as part of an ill-advised strategy to gain significant market share (alongside selling a heap to fleets). I've long argued that Ghosn had equally contributed to putting Nissan in its current misery, as much as he helped save it in the early 2000s.
Nissans are about as Japanese as Volkswagen are German. Not at all. Altimas for USA are made in USA. Frontiers are built in USA too. They don't offer a manual Sentra in USA, but they offer one in Mexico and Canada btw. But that's besides the point. Your Nissan probably wasn't Japanese.
@@fyodor8008 well, some of their cars are still made in Japan. But that doesn't make'em any better. Our recent Qashqai is assembled in Russia ( previous one has been UK-made).
I really like my Nissan. I have a Juke, it's a manual transmission, and it's fun! And I was coming from a Scion tC that was written off.. I had no intentions of getting rid of that car, and had no intentions of buying a Nissan, yet it had a manual and is a fun little car
Best car I ever owned 1994 Sentra, ran forever. 250k and it kept going. My 87 Sentra was just a tough. Never a complaint except for my 2002 Altima SE 3.5. Nothing but problems. The worse was a burned out main computer due to bad electronic motor mounts. I know right!! Currently 2013 Sentra SR with 150k miles, change CVT every 20-25k miles No issues.
You hit the nail on the head with Nissan's true misteps in the past 15 or so years. Instead of innovation, they focused on mass sales by catering to the lower socioeconomic spectrum. As any person with common sense could have seen, that backfired spectacularly. Hence, the 'altima stigma'. They need to get away from the CV transmissions, also.
I went on my Nissan rant in that last retro review reaction you did on that early 90s little coupe. Nissan was once a great company and built exciting cars (for Japanese standards) and had quality on par with Honda and Toyota. It all went downhill when the Europeans (Renault) got involved. Look at any company that was taken over by Europeans that weren't also European (Japanese Nissan and American Chrysler) and it always goes horribly wrong. The notoriously bad European quality issues slowly work their way into the purchased company and they never give enough capital and resources to the purchased company which helps contribute to their downfall. Renault and CVTs helped kill the once great Nissaan and left us with the boring and low quality products they make today.
Another U.S. manufacturer a European purchaser managed to kill was American Motors, Corp. Agree with your comment in every. European companies have the capital to buy, but not the management skill to operate primarily because they are subsidized in their home markets by their national governments.
WeeGee - you're more than allowed 1 rant per topic! :) LOL. I get it, and I agree with you and others that Renault drove Nissan into the ground, and I believe what we're seeing these days is the hangover from it. It's also why Nissan has worked so hard to get their independence back. BUT, let's also not forget Renault saved Nissan. They were in danger of bankruptcy and Renault stepped in. Without them, Nissan might not exist or not in a recognizable form.
@@robertallan4489AMC. What could have been if they were still kept alive. I always think this now because I have seen a big difference between AMC’s Jeep and Chrysler’s Jeep, and AMC’s Jeep is more my style.
@AllCarswithJon thanks for allowing me to rant, Jon 😅. I'll admit that I had forgotten about the fact that Nissan was in such dire straights before Renault got involved. It makes sense because otherwise I don't see Nissan getting involved with another company so deeply. I'll give Renault credit for saving them but but beyond that they didn't do much to help Nissan.
Damn. I like Nissan & I love Datsun, this news is tough to hear. My '19 Frontier, $20k, 30k miles, makes me feel superior with every Taco I pass, but even I don't want a new one....
Enjoying your new 2005 frontier? Yep Nissan recycled the 2005 and up frontier underpinnings for the 2019. So you’ve essentially got a truck with a badly outdated frame. Besides I had a 2006 and it was horrible. So badly made that I got the strawberry milkshake twice. First time I was leaving work and the MIL lights all came on. Looked in the reserve coolant bottle, trans fluid, opened the radiator cap, looked like a strawberry milkshake. They tried to rebuild my engine instead of replacing it, replacement radiator did the same thing. Only problem was this time I was on vacation. Was fortunate cause my friend with a tow truck was willing to bring my other car out to me and tow the broken truck back to the dealer. When I got home the dealer said they replaced the engine but I think they just flushed it out and replaced the rad again. Took it to the Toyota dealer right after i picked it up and traded it in on a Tacoma. Frame issues aside ( which Toyota replaced along with most if not all of the brake lines and suspension parts with no questions asked) the Tacoma did what I needed it to do. Nissan lost me as a customer after trying to cheap out on replacing an engine that was ruined by their bad trans cooler design
They just can't seem to make any smart decisions. The price of trucks in America has gotten out of control. They offer very affordable prices on the Titan, but offer no base models or work trucks. Truck buyers are wanting something that doesn't have every single add on for less than 40k MSRP .Based on how affordable the higher trim models they have Nissan should be able to maks that happen. Instead they are pulling out of the market entirely at a time thay Ram is dropping the Classic. These companies seem to be on the path of going out of business because they aren't content with selling lower margin vehicles.
If you have an older manual transmission Nissan, thank the CVT buyers that maintain the supply of cheap good used engines that will keep you going a good 500,000 miles if you keep the rust off of it.
Bought a 2021 Nissan Rogue with the 2.5 four cylinder and more than happy with the performance and get an average of around 32 MPG on the highway always. Would consider buying another Rogue but not with the complicated 3 cylinder motor now offered in it.
The only Nissans that don't use their busted CVT are the Versa S, Fairlady Z, and GT-R. You can't find the Versa S on any dealer lot, the new Z is 40k minimum, and the GT-R is a 100k super car.
My 2016 Nissan manual lasted till about 183,000 mile and the clutch broke I had it replaced and it lasted 5 months and then broke again and now I'm junking it
I drove 3 Nissans in the 90s. Two were company cars and the 3rd was a 97 200sx that I put 150k miles on in 3 years. Those were solid, well built cars. I took a hard look at the Rogue before ultimately buying my old CR-V, many years back. I think they're channeling their inner Mitsubishi....
I tried to buy a Nissan last year (2023). I wanted a manual transmission Versa (don’t judge me; I had my reasons!) but the three dealers within an hour of my house didn’t have one for me to test drive. After a storm of emails and phone calls during which multiple salespeople attempted to sell me an automatic Sentra for significantly more than the Versa I actually wanted, someone from Nissan USA in Tennessee reached out. I told them what I was looking for and even offered to send a link from their online configuration tool that showed exactly what I was looking for. The rep told me, “Well, just because you configured it on the website doesn’t necessarily mean that car exists outside of your imagination.” Kind of rude, but ok, I get that. Not everyone is going order the exact same spec. So I asked, “Can I go to a dealer-any dealer-and have them special order what I want?” What I heard next floored me. “No, we don’t do that. Sorry.” Click. WOW. Ok, I’ll go buy something else then. And I did.
There was a 2023 manual close to me in September last year I was going to buy it but wasted time I didn't buy it and instead kept my old versa and the manual transmission went out in November it was repaired in December it lasted 5 months and the new transmission clutch went out again and I refused to repair it and had to buy a new 2024. I wasted $5,000 repairing my old car now I have to junk it even though I hate to see it leave my life
We have 2 Rogue Platinum AWD variable compression. Love them. No problems. I think that’s the engine. The Renault idiots are at 19%. Gone. Good. The need real advertising like the old days of J30 Maximas. The product is good. They need time in this recession.
I could go on a rant here about Nissan ! I used to live and be a big fan of Nissans( and Infinities) , we had mid 90’s I-30, which we bought used in 2000, only after a year problems with the Bose speakers ( of course), interior trim, leather seats. We bought a used Nissan ,05 Maxima in 2008, served us well for a few years, then it started having the same problems, Bose speakers went out one by one, interior just went shot, cd player went out, the at 80,000 miles the transmission started failing. We heard that all car models that used that trans were having problems, but Nissan refused to fix them . We paid 1700 to get the transmission overhauled, but it’s still never really fixed it, so we should have paid the 2300 for the new trans. ( or should we have?) We ended up trading it for a certified preowned 2014 Acura RLX, which has never given us any problems in the 150.000 miles it has on it. Everything still works, and the interior still looks basically new. But we agreed after the Maxima that we would never purchase a Nissan or Infiniti again. So ended my love affair with those brands.
The Altima was on my list for a new sedan but i had worries about the transmission so i bought a Malibu instead, which is hardly a reliability standout but the “last American sedan” thing pushed me to Chevrolet for nostalgia reasons (and I watched your Malibu video)
My Nissan has 186,000 miles the engine is still running well but the transmission clutch failed at 183,000 mi ..I replaced it at a local lowlife mechanic shop and it lasted for 5 months and then it broke again and I'm not paying to replace it again
I was in traffic next to a Maxima the other day. That is one hideous car. And then all the other sedans follow its design language. I don't really think anyone is doing that well at designing attractive cars these days, but Nissans are especially bad. Funny observation, your pictures of the Infiniti crossovers were the first time I had seen either of them. haha
I had one of the first 1969 510 two door Datsun-now Nissan. It was the best car I ever had; almost motorcycle level fun. With about $300 I could drag race it-NHRA R-Stock champion for one month in 1970, minor ralleying, some minor track time-beat BMWs, Ford Cortinas, Fiat 124s, and Alfas. What happened to that ahead of it's time car company? Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
I didn't know they still made the Murano, and when I was looking for trucks I tested the Titan, it was a really nice truck... I didn't buy one, just didn't need a huge V8, got an ecoboost.
I would largely agree until the last generation (I'd have to look up the year I'm thinking of). We drove one and I liked the exterior, but the interior quality was really, really bad. Interior Styling was great, but when you sat in it and touched it, it was horrible. And I say that as a Nissan fan at the time with a Versa.
@@AllCarswithJonthe 2024 Nissan versa is much smaller and lower to the ground than the 2016 Nissan versa but it is falsely stating the ground clearance is the same
The 2025 Frontier has me very interested. They made it look better, freshened up the interior and I love kept stayed with the N/A V6. I can't stand all the turbo 4 bangers coming out in mid sized trucks. Only other mid size truck to offer a N/A V6 is the Jeep Gladiator and it's way over priced. Nissan may be getting my business in 2025.
The irony is that the Altima must have some good engineering somewhere. The trim and small components break easy and early, and that is Nissan's fault. The CVT is a disaster. No consider the fact they are usually driven by the worst car owners, never maintained, driven hard and abused yet keep on going is a testament to the main components being built to last. I am convinced the last two moving things on the planet will be a cockroach and an Altima.
Man, every time there a Nissan video, people screaming about CVTs and Altima’s are guaranteed. But Nissan has been making good quality products recently and even worse quality brands like Hyundai and Kia have people defending them just because they make compelling cars. But Nissan is just dead with no hype at all. They keep dropping the ball although they aren’t a bad company and are in many ways still very competitive. I hope things get better for them as soon as possible because i really like Nissan.
@@mrgurulittle7000 : the CVT issue was a major black eye, and my own experience working at various auto parts stores has been that the problem hasn’t really been over exaggerated. By your own admission, Kia and Hyundai have been making compelling cars. More importantly, their quality has gone up dramatically since their early attempts in the ‘90s. Now, stepping into a Kia feels like stepping into a Toyota or Honda. The fit, materials, ergonomics…all of it is on par with the best Japanese brands, and for considerably less money with a longer warranty. Like you said: compelling. But what made me give up on Nissan-at least for my latest car purchase-was the fact that they outright refused (through three different dealers and someone from what showed on caller ID as “Nissan USA”) to sell me the car I wanted, despite it allegedly being an available combination. I gave up and got on the Kia website, configuring a Forte GT just the way I wanted. I hit the button to request a quote, not really expecting to hear anything until after the weekend. Less than 12 hours later, the closest dealer was calling me. They didn’t have my exact car, but they were looking for it. An hour went by and the second closest dealer called. They’d been tipped off by the first dealer because they had a GT, only an automatic instead of a manual. Was I interested in a test drive? I declined, but the sales lady was persistent. Turns out, she had a manual GT, same exact car I was looking for, right down to the color. If I’d come test drive the auto, she’d also let me test drive her car and then I could make a totally informed purchase. So I went down, drove both. Still wanted the manual. “No problem!” she said. “I haven’t done a special order before, so let me get one of my colleagues over here to help walk me through it. We’ll get this done and you should have your car in no more than six weeks.” Cheerful, happy, knowledgeable about not only the vehicle I was ordering but the whole rest of the process as well. It was like they wanted me to get a car I actually wanted, as opposed to whatever they just had sitting on the lot and was easy to make disappear. It’s too bad nobody I interacted with at Nissan (dealers or corporate) had that same philosophy.
As for what's selling at Nissan in 2024 the dealerships can't keep enough Versas on the lot. But, I don't think the demand for them has much to do with Nissan. Rather, it reflects the fact that all other manufacturers no longer carry cheap, small, entry level vehicles in their line ups. Gone is the Yaris, Fusion, Sonic/Spark, Rio, Accent, etc. As a result the prices for used cars has risen substantially. And, because of the 2025 model price increases new car sales are dead. The Versa is simply the ONLY affordable new car sold today at about $17K. Is there a message here?
The Nissan or Datsun products that I have owned over the years were all manual transmissions that mostly bulletproof but the stories my friends have about automatic transmission vehicles are stunningly bad new transmissions at less than 35000 miles that is unacceptable !
Nissan if they fixed their CV transmission issues and hybrid tech could easily become the new Nash building small and midsize affordable vehicles. Let the other guys chase high-end big-margin cars and dominate the economy-minded or affordable class. Aging myself, hear. There is always a market for affordable basic vehicles which is being abandoned by everyone else
Their major error was the CVT and they continue to put them in their cars knowing the are going to fail either way, they just don’t drive as good as conventional automatics and certainly don’t last as long.
Nissan has also been lost in the mix over the last number of years. People that buy Honda or Toyota would never touch a Nissan. The company in alot of ways has become an afterthought.
I disagree I think the "freshness" and restyling/updating is subjective. I happen to like tried and true technology. Their 2.5L 3.5 and 4.0 and 5.6L engines were all pretty reliable. I see them utilizing strong transmissions in their trucks. I'm glad they are not putting turbos on everything and making everything gdi. They really went outrageous with the 3 cylinder variable compression engines in the rogue. I don't think that was a good move for reliability. They need to focus on reliability
Thanks for the video, Jon! Ever since the third generation Altimas came out I've thought that Nissan makes some of the most beautiful (sexy?) cars among the importers. But ever since they incorporated the very poor Jatco CVT's into just about every vehicle they build, it's been a love-hate relationship. One hallmark of Nissan (for me) has always been hard-to-work-on design. My daughter's first car was a 1995 Altima, mainly because my sister had a 1994 that she liked very much and I came across a good deal on one. It was a VERY good little car, but it was a nightmare to work on. I replaced the water pump once and those who've done that know what I'm talking about. It was NOT designed for easy repair, and Maxima owners can relate too. As for the trucks, my son in law had an Armada that was a nice, very good vehicle. My wife and I traveled with them a couple times, and it was a very good ride. I have a 2004 Tacoma, and I've always preferred Toyota's styling and quality to the Frontier's. Nissan had a lot of crank and cam sensor issues in the early 2000's, and the Z24 engines suffer more than their share of timing issues, so I'm good with saying I'll stick with Toyota because of style and quality in my experience. I don't care about ANY new vehicle brands because they all seem to be electronically fragile, so I'm also going to stick with older, well-maintained vehicles. Lord knows the way people can't stand owning anything more than a year old because Buddy Joe Jack has a new whatever, the used market will take care of me for the rest of my life. I do hope they survive, but they really NEED NEED NEED to get rid of the Jatco CVT's or else just...fix them.
I used to be a huge Nissan afficionado, but after sending my 2003 Pathfinder to the junkyard almost three years ago, we only have my wife's 2021 Rogue that's coming up to the end of the lease and we'll probably have to look elsewhere whereas it was a given over the last 4 vehicles that she'd pick a Nissan....
I don't (really) care how a car looks. I want something reliable. They used to be awesome in the 80's and 90's. It was the Renault merger that tanked their quality. That What Nissan needs to do is stop using those damn CVT's and put in actual transmissions with actual launch gears. Chrysler is the epitome of form over function. They're beautiful, but they break so often I'm surprised when I see one with over 100,000K trouble-free miles. That's what Nissan is like currently.
Nissan has had some of the best JDM cars of all time: Skyline, G-T-R, Laurel, Maxima V6 in its heyday was a BOSS, the Z-Cars... Others that i missed off the top of my head, i always like the Altima but with a manual option and for me they had one of the best looking SUVs of all time in the X-terra. Frontier is one of the best mid-sized options out there. Infiniti had some great cars and of course Inline-6 RB26DET is one of the best engines of all time. They even had the performane option in the Sentra Ser spec V, which is something i wish they would bring back, a performance option for the Sentra would cover the loss of the Maxima and Altima because the current Sentra looks fantastic and is almost a full size car at this point.
The back of my Nissan versa the material is so great I wish I could get a couch in my living room made of the same material that feels and smells the same way except bigger
Jon, I heard that Nissan's new variable compression engine in the Rogue is a shortcut on valve control. I generally like NIssans, lately until my retirement, sold them aftermarket parts. I looked at the NIssan Frontier, but it's body looks cheap. Purchased a 2023 Honda Ridgeline and love it. The problem Nissan has, and you mentioned it, no hybrids. Their electrics are mediocre. I have the impression that the Renault alliance did not help their quality either. Last, their CVTs are horrible!
Good one. Yes, self inflicted. In the 90's Nissan in racing was winning. The 300ZX of the mid 90's, the Sentra SE-R, 240SX, etc.... yes, Renault taking over Nissan sure enough took what Nissan was away and their products have become boring and seem to have miss read the market. Hard to believe they were #2 next to Toyota. The fought for market share. Now it's Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Subaru. Second tier... Nissan and Mitsubishi (gee, both owned by....)
Your take on Nissan is honestly great. I believe that hybrids are the future. This EV stuff is definitely a waste of money right now. I've said this long before the EV brand wagon. Ive always thought the Prius was ugly. Especially the early models but there's no denying the technology within that car is what makes it. Proven now, was impressive then. Maybe being taken over by Honda wouldn't be such a bad idea. They know how build and sell decent cars.
It is not just nissan that will not, or has not, brought its existing hybrid tech in its products to the usa/cdn market. Mazda has hybrid vehicles for sale in other markets and has had for a number of years. Car makers need to realize that it is in both their and the customer 's best interests to just immediately hybridize their whole fleet ..
The only Nissan I want is a Z car but our dealer here is so crappy=NO SALE. Plus over the years they've screwed it up too. I don't care about the (New & Improve) crap but the one that 1st came out that is RELIABLE. I do not need or want a New Body style. I buy it because it is what I want. If it changes, then I don't want it any more. Plain & simple. And I'm not the only one that is that way.
Jon: I got an invite from a headhunter to discuss an engineering job for a $1.5+ billion EV plant to be built in Florence SC. I know Honda has a small plant nearby, but any ideas on who the auto manufacturer might be?
Makes sense. Florence is the intersection of 95 and 20. They can ship the batteries to Greenville via 20, and up and down the east coast via 95. I lived in Florence a long time ago, not bad but not great either.
I don’t understand why when Nissan started having problems with the CVT why did they continue putting it in all their vehicles instead of using one from a different manufacturer.
I do miss Nissan of the 90s-early ‘00s. As a young kid I wanted a 1990 300ZX and still think it’s a fresh design 35 years later. I owned a 2001 Maxima and absolutely loved it…was a perfect balance of sporty, reliable and practical. Fast forward to 2010s to now. Many ugly (to me) designs…the Juke in particular really lost me. The horrible JATCO CVT that Nissan has really dug their heels in on keeping. Spending scarce resources on questionable technology in the VCT engines while ignoring hybrid technology despite offering hybrids in the U.S. in the past. And stale models- the current Murano for example is on its 10th model year. It’s all Totally self-inflicted Jon. One bright spot is the newer Frontier model…simplicity for those that don’t want a turbo 4 cylinder in their pickup truck. And to me a nice design. I hope Nissan figures it out but time is not on their side.
I like the new kicks. But I got a 24 soul. The cvt problems threw me off and I've learned not to get the new new model. Better get the updated one and see how the previous one did. So I got a refreshed soul which should have its kinks worked out. Only time will tell.
Dear Jon, I've got a flaming take here. Watch out it's spicy! I remember talking about how Nissan was having trouble when I still didn't have my license (a long time ago). Nissan vehicles are mostly trash. The only good non-racecar Nissan left in USA is the Nissan Frontier, which is arguably the best small truck on the market. That's why I said mostly. The rest of the lineup is bad. The Versa used to have the title of "cheapest car". The Altima and Sentra and a bunch of other ones have that awful Nissan CVT that the Car Wizard was complaining about. And they get uglier with time. Nissan just has cheap, ugly cars. And Nissans are a mechanic's nightmare. Whether it's an overstressed, overcomplicated Nissan v8 from some Infiniti blowing up before 150k, or simply doing an oxygen sensor job on an old Altima, mechanics don't like wrenching these things. Any sane mechanic would rather wrench something other than a Nissan. They're overcomplicated and poorly designed overall. People think "Japanese is better so Nissan must be better", but that's not how it works. That's Honda and Toyota. Nissan is about the same level as GM, which isn't good. Sometimes, Nissan does bring a really good vehicle into the USA. The best Nissans are the basic ones: the little trucks, the coupe, even the Xterra. They basically slashed that whole lineup. The only good things left standing are a Z coupe starting at $43k and a Frontier for the cost of a Tacoma. Once again, the only good Nissan still worth buying (aside from the supercars) is a Frontier. It's a better Tacoma. Everything else points to Nissan leaving the US market soon, assuming the Nissan EV project doesn't go well. Nissan is like Mitsubishi. They do better in poorer countries.
I will have to say I have a bit of experience as to why Nissan is in so much trouble. Longtime Toyota MDT tech here(retired in 22) in the late 2000's I followed a service manager to a Honda / Nissan dual. Dumbest move I ever made. Manager quit and abandoned a tech friend and myself. Loved working on Hondas but despised Nissan. Went back to Toyota after 2 years. So I have first hand knowledge of Ghosn, and Corporate 1) Very cheap engineering and build quality. Compared to Toyota/Honda- being intimate with the vehicles, it was very easy to see where Nissan cut corners. 2) Staying with the CVT, even after they knew how horrible they were- an abomination. 3) Warranty reimbursement times, were impossible to attain. For instance. Nissan paid 4.3 hrs to diag and replace the CVT on a Murano. Just the punch time for the diagnosis of the trans ( pressure tests, software updates and documentation took close to 2 hrs. Replacing the unit took 5 hrs! Then you had to download and install more software after it was completed. Had a recall for fuel pumps. All trucks paid .9, even Armadas. They had an electric middle seat you had to remove and reinstall, including reprogramming the seat. That took an additional 2.5hrs. Factory rep stated...hey you will make up the time on pickups. NOT! I just got such a bad taste and then hated working on all of them! 4) Yes, they had a "Warranty" but not like Toyota/Honda. A light bulb fails in a month- you are paying for it. Nissan will not. I have seen service in the red, just in the helping of a customer satisfaction, having to charge things to the service department. Kinda tough to keep a service manager if he has to pay for that stuff out of his pocket! 5) Again, the product is just garbage. They say "hey new products are coming, two years, but please keep buying the junk on the lot today" Nissan ( I won't tell the truth. My mom taught me not to say anything if you don't have something nice to say) is "inexpensive" and I will end this personal rant and experienced opinion here.
@@g-mang-man7924 The CVT dug their grave, and the bottom price appeal killed them. There's nothing appealing about those flimsy, ugly, downtrodden vehicles. You might as well better off buy an actual Dodge instead.
@@fyodor8008 Worked on used cars too. You may catch me behind the wheel of a pre 1973 Chrysler product but my experience of working on them from the Simca/Talbot Horizon until the Hemi/Pentagram v6 camshaft/lifter failures to Ram trucks needing front suspension overhauls every 40,000 miles. It would be hard to own a Chrysler product for me. Good luck for yours. Hell, being a Toyota fan boy, it is difficult to see my future since I really don't want to own any of them newer than 2020! My newest is the wife's 2015 Sienna. My daily is an 04 ES330 and I added an updated audio from Pioneer nav unit. My Taco is a 2011.
This company should just get rid of the CVT and stop trying to prove that they did not make a mistake by adopting it and their sales will increase if the price stays the same
Nissan should have done away with that cvt transmission along time ago they knew that it wasn’t good but continued to get over the consumer, so I don’t feel so for them at all and I drive a Nissan frontier!
I'm probably in the minority but I generally like Nissan's products and slow development. I think most new cars have too many gadgets and extras that just add cost - again, I'm probably in the minority here. I don't want all the "infotainment" stuff. I have a 2018 Nissan Frontier. It has more gadgets than I need that cause problems and it was considered "antiquated". I have had several other Nissans and they have been reliable IF you take care of them. Not as a fool proof as a Toyota but not far off. Certainly better than my experience with Ford or Chevy. Nissan is not exciting but for me, that's fine.
I will say I loved my old 2008 Frontier and my mom had her old 2000 Altima for 12 years, the longest she's owned any car. I would argue the older models will be an asset in economic downturn and they made the right choice not going as far into EVs beyond the leaf.
Nissan is the best brand in the world. Nissan Leaf is the best and cheapest EV. Chevrolet Bolt is not made anymore. Everyone who does not like CVT of Nissan should drive a bus. Most cars have CVTs now, they have the highest MPG. Toyota is going all hybrids - and they will be very expensive and less reliable. Honda is just expensive and don't have a lot of options, just like Mazda. Hyundai and Kia are not as well made.
Too many Japanese vehicle brands(?)...Nissan has no solid brand identity...Toyota is #1, Honda will never die, Mazda is the 'sporty' brand and Subaru is for the eccentric ...
I watch all your videos regardless, but these in office discussions seem more serious and professional than your walking the neighborhood and chatting ones. I prefer the professional approach.
Thanks for the feedback, I truly appreciate it. It's interesting that the walk-and-talk videos are more consistent in views, but the in-office videos can do much better (or much worse!) I think there's a good mix to be had, but right now I'm working to find it. Feedback like this is critical and I appreciate it!
Nissan has no future, they used to be great but due to cost cutting on everything they became unreliable and poorly-made. And even if they try something new it fails. For example the “e-POWER” is possibly the worst hybrid on sale right now. For example on the European Qashqai (a Rogue but slightly smaller and just as awful) it takes about 165k miles to save enough money on fuel to justify buying the hybrid variant. Overall as far as I’m concerned it’s a dead company.
@@stevenpollard5171 Nowhere near as good as the RAV4 or CR-V and not that much better than the Mazda CX-5 which while a great car has been almost the same since 2017.
Had 5 Nissans 2 of which were new. Never an issue even with the used vehicles. Would never touch any Nissan with a CVT transmission that seems to be their Achilles heel. Loved my 4 cyl 8 spark plug 1988 truck great power and sad they discontinued that engine.
I have an anecdote that I think shows how badly Nissan is doing. I live in a state that charges property tax on vehicles. When you lease a car, the leasing company pays the tax and sends you a bill for reimbursement. Instead of doing that, Nissan is so hard up for cash, they have been sending out estimated tax bills that are inflated by hundreds of dollars to customers. The bills say that if the estimate is wrong in the customer’s favor, the customer won’t be charged the difference. But if it’s in Nissans favor, the customer won’t get a refund! I called my town, and Nissan inflated my tax bill by over 400$!!! This tells you how hard up they are for cash and how slimy of a company they are.
@@AllCarswithJon I already reported this to the state attorney general’s office. They have such gumption that when I showed them the actual tax bill from the town and refused to pay their estimated amount, they threatened me with a collection agency! Never do business with Nissan.
The wonky CVT transmissions sort of killed Nissan for me. Why would you buy a ticking time bomb? That aside, I wanted to buy a small fuel efficient car, where did they go? Micra gone, hatchback Versa gone, a Sentra is virtually useless to me. Ok maybe a truck? No, I don't want a Frontier. Now what? Try now somebody else..........................
I tried buying new,base MT Versa from 6 dealerships in Ontario. What a disaster that was. If buying is such a hassle I can't imagine servicing vehicle there. Thanks,bye.
But the VQ engines sound like poopie, as most V6 engines do but the VQ takes the cake, also why my l67 monte has a stock catback with headers and catless downpipe, I'll give up the 5 hp to sound stock-ish😂
They develop and promote Ariya while continuing to install that stupid CVT that ruined their reputation. It's in everything except the trucks. When Nissan stood alone their engines and transmissions were bullet proof. My experience. Just bought a 2017 Frontier SV 4X4 because it's the only truck I trust. The CVT in the cars and every SUV except Armada, I do not trust. That transmission why people shy away from Nissan and now Infinity.
The Nissan I referenced in the video that I owned for 10 years was a manual Versa. At 10 years and 100k miles it was having some problems, but mostly electric (locks specifically)
Nissan (or at least their reputation) has just fallen into the toilet since like 2005-2010. The CVT that they put in all their sedans and small crossover has been an albatross around their necks. In the 90s they were a legit #3 Japanese auto maker.
Yeah, I read that as well. Shame, I've always loved the look of the Q50 but it had some serious flaws and Infiniti's attitude was "good enough" - for 11 years. :)
I don't care about new looking products. Just reliable ones
I've decided that I need to just buy a dozen early 90's Buicks or Pontiacs with the 3800 and store all but one then just drive that vehicle forever added jasper transmissions as needed. There's honestly no reason for me personally to ever have a vehicle newer than that.
women sure do care about it being "new"
@raymond_sycamore That's why manufacturers don't focus on quality nearly as much. They invest instead in to "looking fresh".. Worked for Chrysler for a while..
@@calebbearup4282 The GM 3800 isn't as invincible as people think. They have certain commonly known issues, so be sure to watch out and do your preventative maintenance.
@@fyodor8008 fair point. Though one big reason why I think those would make good options is the ease of finding parts from junk yards.
I just want to say how good this guy is off the cuff. Very smooth delivery very natural. Really excellent.
Wow, thanks!
Yes. Absolutely agree. He's been plugging along for many years; getting better by small successes and failures. The American way.
I was one of Jon’s early subscribers and I’ve enjoyed and been impressed by his extensive knowledge of the automotive industry. I’m going to be shopping for a sedan next year and I fully intend to reach out to him and let him help me make an informed decision. Great channel and finally someone who’s so relaxing to listen to.
I had a 2007 Nissan Altima. I was excited about it because I loved how it looked, it was the first brand new car I got to order from the factory and customize the options. Three days after I took delivery it as recalled, when I took it in for the recall appointment the dealership told me "We don't do loaner cars, you have to rent one from us."
I told the guy at the counter "I just spent over $30K on this car that I took delivery of three days ago. You're telling me I have to pay for a rental while you fix a car that's already been recalled? If that's the case, keep the car and I'll talk with the manager to get my money back." They took care of the rental charges and took over two weeks to fix my car. Due to unfortunate family circumstances I had to get rid of the car less than a year later.
Based on that experience and the fact that the CVT was horrible, I'd never get another Nissan.
Ghosn is just a sour guy. The Honda Mitsubishi Nissan partnership is mainly for software more than EV architecture. Nissan has great software so Honda probably wants to do what they can out of it. And Mitsubishi is just Nissan’s little brother in everything. I think the partnership would be great.
A terrific video. By the number of views and comments accumulated so quickly you must surely see how much people have hungered for the back story and for insightful analysis of all the many wheels that are turning in the U.S. auto industry at this time. I sincerely hope that you add this sort of video to your video channel. Thank you.
Yes, the views, comments, and click-through-rate is surprising me. I hear what you're saying! Trust me!
In the past these type of videos have either done 1) very well or 2) bombed.
There doesn't seem to be an appetite (at least from me) to do smaller 'in the news' videos focused on one thing. They *seem* to do better when several related issues can be combined and I can wrap an editorial around it.
Thanks for the comment! :)
I have a ‘23 ALTIMA that I absolutely love. It’s a smooth and quiet sedan plus a decent highway car. Many people say it’s a boring car but to me that means smooth and quiet. I wanted a good size sedan not a hot rod. I actually like the CV transmission. It allows the engine to run nice and slow. Longer life and less noise. Plus no turbo to worry about. I don’t like the SENTRA since it’s too small for what I want. I take a generic approach to vehicles now. When the time comes to replace my car, whatever sedan this size or larger is available I’ll buy regardless of who builds it.
CVT's ruined this company.
It just any CVT but the JATCO CVT
Nissan’s problems happened well before the CVT issue
No UNRELIABILITY ruined the company including unreliable cvt’s.
Nissan really gave CVT's a bad name because of their earlier problems(the newer ones have improved). If you look at Honda and Toyota, their CVT's are much better in terms of reliability.
With 45 years of motor vehicle experience as a dealer, dealership manager and auto leasing company owner I would point to the CVT failures as the number one reason for the downward spiral of Nissan. The management has made some terrible decisions along the way which has accelerated the downward trend.
Why does Toyota get praised for their "tried and true" method but Nissan gets slammed for not keeping up? In the US every other car on the road is a Nissan. Someone likes them.
I’m 62. I’ve owned 8 Nissans and all were great. Well over 100K miles on all of them with no problems.
My 14 year old Nissan with the 6 speed manual box is going well, I would touch the CVT auto with a barge pole, if you don't know there. 🤬
@@Alan-lv9rw 100,000 miles is a minimum standard for anything in the 1960s and 1970s 400,000 miles is now the standard for quality. Yes your obviously 62
@@stephenjackman6163When I get near 200K I trade them in. 400K? I worked auto insurance claims for 36 years and the number of cars I saw with over 400K I could count on one hand. They’re extremely rare.
Somehow, Nissan got in early on EVs, and have a seriously compelling hybrid powertrain born out of that experience in EVs (e-Power).....yet they somehow couldn't leverage the early EV hype and the current hybrid boom to make decent bank.
That's actually impressive.....in a negative way.
Their vehicles are ugly, cheap garbage. That's pretty much why. Also, Nissan fanboys weren't in it for the EV's.
@@fyodor8008Been that way since the early 2010s. These cheaply made vehicles were all conceived as part of an ill-advised strategy to gain significant market share (alongside selling a heap to fleets).
I've long argued that Ghosn had equally contributed to putting Nissan in its current misery, as much as he helped save it in the early 2000s.
Nissan has been my least fav Japanese brand since early 2010's. Quality issues, cheap materials, no great tech.
Nissans are about as Japanese as Volkswagen are German. Not at all. Altimas for USA are made in USA. Frontiers are built in USA too.
They don't offer a manual Sentra in USA, but they offer one in Mexico and Canada btw. But that's besides the point. Your Nissan probably wasn't Japanese.
@@fyodor8008 well, some of their cars are still made in Japan. But that doesn't make'em any better.
Our recent Qashqai is assembled in Russia ( previous one has been UK-made).
Love my Nissan Ariya EV, test drove the Y and went with the Ariya. My Venture + epa is 304 I’m getting ~ 340
I really like my Nissan. I have a Juke, it's a manual transmission, and it's fun!
And I was coming from a Scion tC that was written off.. I had no intentions of getting rid of that car, and had no intentions of buying a Nissan, yet it had a manual and is a fun little car
Bring back the Xterra!
Best car I ever owned 1994 Sentra, ran forever. 250k and it kept going. My 87 Sentra was just a tough. Never a complaint except for my 2002 Altima SE 3.5. Nothing but problems. The worse was a burned out main computer due to bad electronic motor mounts. I know right!! Currently 2013 Sentra SR with 150k miles, change CVT every 20-25k miles No issues.
You hit the nail on the head with Nissan's true misteps in the past 15 or so years. Instead of innovation, they focused on mass sales by catering to the lower socioeconomic spectrum. As any person with common sense could have seen, that backfired spectacularly. Hence, the 'altima stigma'. They need to get away from the CV transmissions, also.
I went on my Nissan rant in that last retro review reaction you did on that early 90s little coupe. Nissan was once a great company and built exciting cars (for Japanese standards) and had quality on par with Honda and Toyota. It all went downhill when the Europeans (Renault) got involved. Look at any company that was taken over by Europeans that weren't also European (Japanese Nissan and American Chrysler) and it always goes horribly wrong. The notoriously bad European quality issues slowly work their way into the purchased company and they never give enough capital and resources to the purchased company which helps contribute to their downfall. Renault and CVTs helped kill the once great Nissaan and left us with the boring and low quality products they make today.
Another U.S. manufacturer a European purchaser managed to kill was American Motors, Corp. Agree with your comment in every. European companies have the capital to buy, but not the management skill to operate primarily because they are subsidized in their home markets by their national governments.
WeeGee - you're more than allowed 1 rant per topic! :) LOL.
I get it, and I agree with you and others that Renault drove Nissan into the ground, and I believe what we're seeing these days is the hangover from it. It's also why Nissan has worked so hard to get their independence back.
BUT, let's also not forget Renault saved Nissan. They were in danger of bankruptcy and Renault stepped in. Without them, Nissan might not exist or not in a recognizable form.
Europeans thinking they know it better than anyone else.
@@robertallan4489AMC. What could have been if they were still kept alive. I always think this now because I have seen a big difference between AMC’s Jeep and Chrysler’s Jeep, and AMC’s Jeep is more my style.
@AllCarswithJon thanks for allowing me to rant, Jon 😅. I'll admit that I had forgotten about the fact that Nissan was in such dire straights before Renault got involved. It makes sense because otherwise I don't see Nissan getting involved with another company so deeply. I'll give Renault credit for saving them but but beyond that they didn't do much to help Nissan.
Damn. I like Nissan & I love Datsun, this news is tough to hear. My '19 Frontier, $20k, 30k miles, makes me feel superior with every Taco I pass, but even I don't want a new one....
Enjoying your new 2005 frontier? Yep Nissan recycled the 2005 and up frontier underpinnings for the 2019. So you’ve essentially got a truck with a badly outdated frame. Besides I had a 2006 and it was horrible. So badly made that I got the strawberry milkshake twice. First time I was leaving work and the MIL lights all came on. Looked in the reserve coolant bottle, trans fluid, opened the radiator cap, looked like a strawberry milkshake. They tried to rebuild my engine instead of replacing it, replacement radiator did the same thing. Only problem was this time I was on vacation. Was fortunate cause my friend with a tow truck was willing to bring my other car out to me and tow the broken truck back to the dealer. When I got home the dealer said they replaced the engine but I think they just flushed it out and replaced the rad again. Took it to the Toyota dealer right after i picked it up and traded it in on a Tacoma. Frame issues aside ( which Toyota replaced along with most if not all of the brake lines and suspension parts with no questions asked) the Tacoma did what I needed it to do. Nissan lost me as a customer after trying to cheap out on replacing an engine that was ruined by their bad trans cooler design
They just can't seem to make any smart decisions. The price of trucks in America has gotten out of control. They offer very affordable prices on the Titan, but offer no base models or work trucks. Truck buyers are wanting something that doesn't have every single add on for less than 40k MSRP .Based on how affordable the higher trim models they have Nissan should be able to maks that happen. Instead they are pulling out of the market entirely at a time thay Ram is dropping the Classic. These companies seem to be on the path of going out of business because they aren't content with selling lower margin vehicles.
If you have an older manual transmission Nissan, thank the CVT buyers that maintain the supply of cheap good used engines that will keep you going a good 500,000 miles if you keep the rust off of it.
Renault =Nissan = JUNK
YOU CAN THANK CARLOS GHOSN FOR THAT!!
I've had 9 of them. No issues whatsoever. They need to release a new Xterra and the X enthusiasts will save them.
Bought a 2021 Nissan Rogue with the 2.5 four cylinder and more than happy with the performance and get an average of around 32 MPG on the highway always. Would consider buying another Rogue but not with the complicated 3 cylinder motor now offered in it.
We have a 2021 rogue sl and 2024 rogue platinum 🤷🏽♂️ love them
The only Nissans that don't use their busted CVT are the Versa S, Fairlady Z, and GT-R. You can't find the Versa S on any dealer lot, the new Z is 40k minimum, and the GT-R is a 100k super car.
My 2016 Nissan manual lasted till about 183,000 mile and the clutch broke I had it replaced and it lasted 5 months and then broke again and now I'm junking it
The 2024 versa is much smaller and lower to the ground than the versas of 10 years ago
Here in Scotland Nissan used to be a by word for reliability but the recent ones have crappy Renault engines and the build quality is now really poor.
I drove 3 Nissans in the 90s. Two were company cars and the 3rd was a 97 200sx that I put 150k miles on in 3 years. Those were solid, well built cars. I took a hard look at the Rogue before ultimately buying my old CR-V, many years back. I think they're channeling their inner Mitsubishi....
I tried to buy a Nissan last year (2023). I wanted a manual transmission Versa (don’t judge me; I had my reasons!) but the three dealers within an hour of my house didn’t have one for me to test drive. After a storm of emails and phone calls during which multiple salespeople attempted to sell me an automatic Sentra for significantly more than the Versa I actually wanted, someone from Nissan USA in Tennessee reached out. I told them what I was looking for and even offered to send a link from their online configuration tool that showed exactly what I was looking for. The rep told me, “Well, just because you configured it on the website doesn’t necessarily mean that car exists outside of your imagination.” Kind of rude, but ok, I get that. Not everyone is going order the exact same spec. So I asked, “Can I go to a dealer-any dealer-and have them special order what I want?” What I heard next floored me. “No, we don’t do that. Sorry.” Click. WOW. Ok, I’ll go buy something else then. And I did.
There was a 2023 manual close to me in September last year I was going to buy it but wasted time I didn't buy it and instead kept my old versa and the manual transmission went out in November it was repaired in December it lasted 5 months and the new transmission clutch went out again and I refused to repair it and had to buy a new 2024. I wasted $5,000 repairing my old car now I have to junk it even though I hate to see it leave my life
We have 2 Rogue Platinum AWD variable compression. Love them. No problems. I think that’s the engine. The Renault idiots are at 19%. Gone. Good. The need real advertising like the old days of J30 Maximas. The product is good. They need time in this recession.
They really need a sub-compact SUV to compete with the HR-V, Kona, Crosstrek, etc.
It’s called the Kicks…
I could go on a rant here about Nissan ! I used to live and be a big fan of Nissans( and Infinities) , we had mid 90’s I-30, which we bought used in 2000, only after a year problems with the Bose speakers ( of course), interior trim, leather seats. We bought a used Nissan ,05 Maxima in 2008, served us well for a few years, then it started having the same problems, Bose speakers went out one by one, interior just went shot, cd player went out, the at 80,000 miles the transmission started failing. We heard that all car models that used that trans were having problems, but Nissan refused to fix them . We paid 1700 to get the transmission overhauled, but it’s still never really fixed it, so we should have paid the 2300 for the new trans. ( or should we have?) We ended up trading it for a certified preowned 2014 Acura RLX, which has never given us any problems in the 150.000 miles it has on it. Everything still works, and the interior still looks basically new. But we agreed after the Maxima that we would never purchase a Nissan or Infiniti again. So ended my love affair with those brands.
The Altima was on my list for a new sedan but i had worries about the transmission so i bought a Malibu instead, which is hardly a reliability standout but the “last American sedan” thing pushed me to Chevrolet for nostalgia reasons (and I watched your Malibu video)
My Nissan has 186,000 miles the engine is still running well but the transmission clutch failed at 183,000 mi ..I replaced it at a local lowlife mechanic shop and it lasted for 5 months and then it broke again and I'm not paying to replace it again
I was in traffic next to a Maxima the other day. That is one hideous car. And then all the other sedans follow its design language. I don't really think anyone is doing that well at designing attractive cars these days, but Nissans are especially bad. Funny observation, your pictures of the Infiniti crossovers were the first time I had seen either of them. haha
I had one of the first 1969 510 two door Datsun-now Nissan. It was the best car I ever had; almost motorcycle level fun. With about $300 I could drag race it-NHRA R-Stock champion for one month in 1970, minor ralleying, some minor track time-beat BMWs, Ford Cortinas, Fiat 124s, and Alfas. What happened to that ahead of it's time car company?
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
I didn't know they still made the Murano, and when I was looking for trucks I tested the Titan, it was a really nice truck... I didn't buy one, just didn't need a huge V8, got an ecoboost.
Likely you didn't need 12-14 mpg.
@@junkmangeorge6363 I didn't need that either
I’ve driven many Sentras and Corollas. The Sentra is a much better car.
I would largely agree until the last generation (I'd have to look up the year I'm thinking of). We drove one and I liked the exterior, but the interior quality was really, really bad. Interior Styling was great, but when you sat in it and touched it, it was horrible. And I say that as a Nissan fan at the time with a Versa.
@@AllCarswithJonthe 2024 Nissan versa is much smaller and lower to the ground than the 2016 Nissan versa but it is falsely stating the ground clearance is the same
The 2025 Frontier has me very interested. They made it look better, freshened up the interior and I love kept stayed with the N/A V6. I can't stand all the turbo 4 bangers coming out in mid sized trucks. Only other mid size truck to offer a N/A V6 is the Jeep Gladiator and it's way over priced. Nissan may be getting my business in 2025.
The Versa is selling !
The irony is that the Altima must have some good engineering somewhere. The trim and small components break easy and early, and that is Nissan's fault. The CVT is a disaster. No consider the fact they are usually driven by the worst car owners, never maintained, driven hard and abused yet keep on going is a testament to the main components being built to last. I am convinced the last two moving things on the planet will be a cockroach and an Altima.
Man, every time there a Nissan video, people screaming about CVTs and Altima’s are guaranteed. But Nissan has been making good quality products recently and even worse quality brands like Hyundai and Kia have people defending them just because they make compelling cars. But Nissan is just dead with no hype at all. They keep dropping the ball although they aren’t a bad company and are in many ways still very competitive. I hope things get better for them as soon as possible because i really like Nissan.
They know their CVTs blow yet they got rid of perfectly fine MT . Nissans were pretty famous for their manual transmissions.
@@karoltakisobie6638Their CVTs have blown. Past tense. I don’t hear issues on the Jatco CVTs anymore so you’re all worrying about a nothing burger.
@@mrgurulittle7000 : the CVT issue was a major black eye, and my own experience working at various auto parts stores has been that the problem hasn’t really been over exaggerated.
By your own admission, Kia and Hyundai have been making compelling cars. More importantly, their quality has gone up dramatically since their early attempts in the ‘90s. Now, stepping into a Kia feels like stepping into a Toyota or Honda. The fit, materials, ergonomics…all of it is on par with the best Japanese brands, and for considerably less money with a longer warranty. Like you said: compelling. But what made me give up on Nissan-at least for my latest car purchase-was the fact that they outright refused (through three different dealers and someone from what showed on caller ID as “Nissan USA”) to sell me the car I wanted, despite it allegedly being an available combination.
I gave up and got on the Kia website, configuring a Forte GT just the way I wanted. I hit the button to request a quote, not really expecting to hear anything until after the weekend. Less than 12 hours later, the closest dealer was calling me. They didn’t have my exact car, but they were looking for it. An hour went by and the second closest dealer called. They’d been tipped off by the first dealer because they had a GT, only an automatic instead of a manual. Was I interested in a test drive? I declined, but the sales lady was persistent. Turns out, she had a manual GT, same exact car I was looking for, right down to the color. If I’d come test drive the auto, she’d also let me test drive her car and then I could make a totally informed purchase. So I went down, drove both. Still wanted the manual. “No problem!” she said. “I haven’t done a special order before, so let me get one of my colleagues over here to help walk me through it. We’ll get this done and you should have your car in no more than six weeks.” Cheerful, happy, knowledgeable about not only the vehicle I was ordering but the whole rest of the process as well. It was like they wanted me to get a car I actually wanted, as opposed to whatever they just had sitting on the lot and was easy to make disappear. It’s too bad nobody I interacted with at Nissan (dealers or corporate) had that same philosophy.
My Toyota is just 18, I'll never sell it.
As for what's selling at Nissan in 2024 the dealerships can't keep enough Versas on the lot. But, I don't think the demand for them has much to do with Nissan. Rather, it reflects the fact that all other manufacturers no longer carry cheap, small, entry level vehicles in their line ups. Gone is the Yaris, Fusion, Sonic/Spark, Rio, Accent, etc. As a result the prices for used cars has risen substantially. And, because of the 2025 model price increases new car sales are dead. The Versa is simply the ONLY affordable new car sold today at about $17K. Is there a message here?
Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan.
The Nissan or Datsun products that I have owned over the years were all manual transmissions that mostly bulletproof but the stories my friends have about automatic transmission vehicles are stunningly bad new transmissions at less than 35000 miles that is unacceptable !
I have a 95 nissan pickup it's old but I can work on the truck.
"Plugging along." Come on. I'll bet the pun actually was intended. NIssan has always had problems with profitability.
I assure you, this was unscripted and that pun was unintended. :)
Nissan is the biggest seller in the PSA/Nissan/Mitsubishi group with about 5 million world wide sales last year.
Nissan if they fixed their CV transmission issues and hybrid tech could easily become the new Nash building small and midsize affordable vehicles. Let the other guys chase high-end big-margin cars and dominate the economy-minded or affordable class. Aging myself, hear. There is always a market for affordable basic vehicles which is being abandoned by everyone else
Their major error was the CVT and they continue to put them in their cars knowing the are going to fail either way, they just don’t drive as good as conventional automatics and certainly don’t last as long.
Nissan has also been lost in the mix over the last number of years. People that buy Honda or Toyota would never touch a Nissan. The company in alot of ways has become an afterthought.
I disagree I think the "freshness" and restyling/updating is subjective. I happen to like tried and true technology. Their 2.5L 3.5 and 4.0 and 5.6L engines were all pretty reliable. I see them utilizing strong transmissions in their trucks. I'm glad they are not putting turbos on everything and making everything gdi. They really went outrageous with the 3 cylinder variable compression engines in the rogue. I don't think that was a good move for reliability. They need to focus on reliability
Thanks for the video, Jon!
Ever since the third generation Altimas came out I've thought that Nissan makes some of the most beautiful (sexy?) cars among the importers. But ever since they incorporated the very poor Jatco CVT's into just about every vehicle they build, it's been a love-hate relationship. One hallmark of Nissan (for me) has always been hard-to-work-on design. My daughter's first car was a 1995 Altima, mainly because my sister had a 1994 that she liked very much and I came across a good deal on one. It was a VERY good little car, but it was a nightmare to work on. I replaced the water pump once and those who've done that know what I'm talking about. It was NOT designed for easy repair, and Maxima owners can relate too.
As for the trucks, my son in law had an Armada that was a nice, very good vehicle. My wife and I traveled with them a couple times, and it was a very good ride. I have a 2004 Tacoma, and I've always preferred Toyota's styling and quality to the Frontier's. Nissan had a lot of crank and cam sensor issues in the early 2000's, and the Z24 engines suffer more than their share of timing issues, so I'm good with saying I'll stick with Toyota because of style and quality in my experience. I don't care about ANY new vehicle brands because they all seem to be electronically fragile, so I'm also going to stick with older, well-maintained vehicles. Lord knows the way people can't stand owning anything more than a year old because Buddy Joe Jack has a new whatever, the used market will take care of me for the rest of my life.
I do hope they survive, but they really NEED NEED NEED to get rid of the Jatco CVT's or else just...fix them.
I used to be a huge Nissan afficionado, but after sending my 2003 Pathfinder to the junkyard almost three years ago, we only have my wife's 2021 Rogue that's coming up to the end of the lease and we'll probably have to look elsewhere whereas it was a given over the last 4 vehicles that she'd pick a Nissan....
My second car was a Nissan. 210 Wagon with the 5-speed manual. Little thing ran great.
I don't (really) care how a car looks. I want something reliable. They used to be awesome in the 80's and 90's. It was the Renault merger that tanked their quality. That What Nissan needs to do is stop using those damn CVT's and put in actual transmissions with actual launch gears. Chrysler is the epitome of form over function. They're beautiful, but they break so often I'm surprised when I see one with over 100,000K trouble-free miles. That's what Nissan is like currently.
Nissan has had some of the best JDM cars of all time: Skyline, G-T-R, Laurel, Maxima V6 in its heyday was a BOSS, the Z-Cars... Others that i missed off the top of my head, i always like the Altima but with a manual option and for me they had one of the best looking SUVs of all time in the X-terra. Frontier is one of the best mid-sized options out there. Infiniti had some great cars and of course Inline-6 RB26DET is one of the best engines of all time. They even had the performane option in the Sentra Ser spec V, which is something i wish they would bring back, a performance option for the Sentra would cover the loss of the Maxima and Altima because the current Sentra looks fantastic and is almost a full size car at this point.
The back of my Nissan versa the material is so great I wish I could get a couch in my living room made of the same material that feels and smells the same way except bigger
Jon, I heard that Nissan's new variable compression engine in the Rogue is a shortcut on valve control. I generally like NIssans, lately until my retirement, sold them aftermarket parts. I looked at the NIssan Frontier, but it's body looks cheap. Purchased a 2023 Honda Ridgeline and love it. The problem Nissan has, and you mentioned it, no hybrids. Their electrics are mediocre. I have the impression that the Renault alliance did not help their quality either. Last, their CVTs are horrible!
Good one. Yes, self inflicted. In the 90's Nissan in racing was winning. The 300ZX of the mid 90's, the Sentra SE-R, 240SX, etc.... yes, Renault taking over Nissan sure enough took what Nissan was away and their products have become boring and seem to have miss read the market. Hard to believe they were #2 next to Toyota. The fought for market share. Now it's Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Subaru. Second tier... Nissan and Mitsubishi (gee, both owned by....)
Your take on Nissan is honestly great. I believe that hybrids are the future. This EV stuff is definitely a waste of money right now. I've said this long before the EV brand wagon. Ive always thought the Prius was ugly. Especially the early models but there's no denying the technology within that car is what makes it. Proven now, was impressive then. Maybe being taken over by Honda wouldn't be such a bad idea. They know how build and sell decent cars.
It is not just nissan that will not, or has not, brought its existing hybrid tech in its products to the usa/cdn market. Mazda has hybrid vehicles for sale in other markets and has had for a number of years. Car makers need to realize that it is in both their and the customer 's best interests to just immediately hybridize their whole fleet ..
The only Nissan I want is a Z car but our dealer here is so crappy=NO SALE. Plus over the years they've screwed it up too. I don't care about the (New & Improve) crap but the one that 1st came out that is RELIABLE. I do not need or want a New Body style. I buy it because it is what I want. If it changes, then I don't want it any more. Plain & simple. And I'm not the only one that is that way.
Jon: I got an invite from a headhunter to discuss an engineering job for a $1.5+ billion EV plant to be built in Florence SC. I know Honda has a small plant nearby, but any ideas on who the auto manufacturer might be?
Well, I know back in the Spring Automotive Energy Supply Corporation was planning a $1.5B battery plant in Florence, and they're a supplier for BMW?
Makes sense. Florence is the intersection of 95 and 20. They can ship the batteries to Greenville via 20, and up and down the east coast via 95. I lived in Florence a long time ago, not bad but not great either.
I don’t understand why when Nissan started having problems with the CVT why did they continue putting it in all their vehicles instead of using one from a different manufacturer.
Because they're part owner in the CVT manufacturer.
I do miss Nissan of the 90s-early ‘00s. As a young kid I wanted a 1990 300ZX and still think it’s a fresh design 35 years later. I owned a 2001 Maxima and absolutely loved it…was a perfect balance of sporty, reliable and practical.
Fast forward to 2010s to now. Many ugly (to me) designs…the Juke in particular really lost me. The horrible JATCO CVT that Nissan has really dug their heels in on keeping. Spending scarce resources on questionable technology in the VCT engines while ignoring hybrid technology despite offering hybrids in the U.S. in the past. And stale models- the current Murano for example is on its 10th model year. It’s all Totally self-inflicted Jon.
One bright spot is the newer Frontier model…simplicity for those that don’t want a turbo 4 cylinder in their pickup truck. And to me a nice design. I hope Nissan figures it out but time is not on their side.
I like the new kicks. But I got a 24 soul. The cvt problems threw me off and I've learned not to get the new new model. Better get the updated one and see how the previous one did. So I got a refreshed soul which should have its kinks worked out. Only time will tell.
Dear Jon, I've got a flaming take here. Watch out it's spicy!
I remember talking about how Nissan was having trouble when I still didn't have my license (a long time ago). Nissan vehicles are mostly trash. The only good non-racecar Nissan left in USA is the Nissan Frontier, which is arguably the best small truck on the market. That's why I said mostly. The rest of the lineup is bad. The Versa used to have the title of "cheapest car". The Altima and Sentra and a bunch of other ones have that awful Nissan CVT that the Car Wizard was complaining about. And they get uglier with time. Nissan just has cheap, ugly cars.
And Nissans are a mechanic's nightmare. Whether it's an overstressed, overcomplicated Nissan v8 from some Infiniti blowing up before 150k, or simply doing an oxygen sensor job on an old Altima, mechanics don't like wrenching these things. Any sane mechanic would rather wrench something other than a Nissan. They're overcomplicated and poorly designed overall. People think "Japanese is better so Nissan must be better", but that's not how it works. That's Honda and Toyota. Nissan is about the same level as GM, which isn't good.
Sometimes, Nissan does bring a really good vehicle into the USA. The best Nissans are the basic ones: the little trucks, the coupe, even the Xterra. They basically slashed that whole lineup. The only good things left standing are a Z coupe starting at $43k and a Frontier for the cost of a Tacoma.
Once again, the only good Nissan still worth buying (aside from the supercars) is a Frontier. It's a better Tacoma. Everything else points to Nissan leaving the US market soon, assuming the Nissan EV project doesn't go well. Nissan is like Mitsubishi. They do better in poorer countries.
I will have to say I have a bit of experience as to why Nissan is in so much trouble. Longtime Toyota MDT tech here(retired in 22) in the late 2000's I followed a service manager to a Honda / Nissan dual. Dumbest move I ever made. Manager quit and abandoned a tech friend and myself. Loved working on Hondas but despised Nissan. Went back to Toyota after 2 years. So I have first hand knowledge of Ghosn, and Corporate
1) Very cheap engineering and build quality. Compared to Toyota/Honda- being intimate with the vehicles, it was very easy to see where Nissan cut corners.
2) Staying with the CVT, even after they knew how horrible they were- an abomination.
3) Warranty reimbursement times, were impossible to attain. For instance. Nissan paid 4.3 hrs to diag and replace the CVT on a Murano. Just the punch time for the diagnosis of the trans ( pressure tests, software updates and documentation took close to 2 hrs. Replacing the unit took 5 hrs! Then you had to download and install more software after it was completed. Had a recall for fuel pumps. All trucks paid .9, even Armadas. They had an electric middle seat you had to remove and reinstall, including reprogramming the seat. That took an additional 2.5hrs. Factory rep stated...hey you will make up the time on pickups. NOT! I just got such a bad taste and then hated working on all of them!
4) Yes, they had a "Warranty" but not like Toyota/Honda. A light bulb fails in a month- you are paying for it. Nissan will not. I have seen service in the red, just in the helping of a customer satisfaction, having to charge things to the service department. Kinda tough to keep a service manager if he has to pay for that stuff out of his pocket!
5) Again, the product is just garbage. They say "hey new products are coming, two years, but please keep buying the junk on the lot today"
Nissan ( I won't tell the truth. My mom taught me not to say anything if you don't have something nice to say) is "inexpensive" and I will end this personal rant and experienced opinion here.
Thanks for the comment on this!
@@g-mang-man7924 The CVT dug their grave, and the bottom price appeal killed them. There's nothing appealing about those flimsy, ugly, downtrodden vehicles. You might as well better off buy an actual Dodge instead.
@@fyodor8008 Worked on used cars too. You may catch me behind the wheel of a pre 1973 Chrysler product but my experience of working on them from the Simca/Talbot Horizon until the Hemi/Pentagram v6 camshaft/lifter failures to Ram trucks needing front suspension overhauls every 40,000 miles. It would be hard to own a Chrysler product for me. Good luck for yours. Hell, being a Toyota fan boy, it is difficult to see my future since I really don't want to own any of them newer than 2020! My newest is the wife's 2015 Sienna. My daily is an 04 ES330 and I added an updated audio from Pioneer nav unit. My Taco is a 2011.
This company should just get rid of the CVT and stop trying to prove that they did not make a mistake by adopting it and their sales will increase if the price stays the same
Nissan should have done away with that cvt transmission along time ago they knew that it wasn’t good but continued to get over the consumer, so I don’t feel so for them at all and I drive a Nissan frontier!
I'm probably in the minority but I generally like Nissan's products and slow development. I think most new cars have too many gadgets and extras that just add cost - again, I'm probably in the minority here. I don't want all the "infotainment" stuff. I have a 2018 Nissan Frontier. It has more gadgets than I need that cause problems and it was considered "antiquated". I have had several other Nissans and they have been reliable IF you take care of them. Not as a fool proof as a Toyota but not far off. Certainly better than my experience with Ford or Chevy. Nissan is not exciting but for me, that's fine.
They have great looking cars but terrible transmissions.
I heard good feedback from Titan owners that they are decent for the price point.
Excepting they have difficulty passing a gas station.
I will say I loved my old 2008 Frontier and my mom had her old 2000 Altima for 12 years, the longest she's owned any car.
I would argue the older models will be an asset in economic downturn and they made the right choice not going as far into EVs beyond the leaf.
Nissan seems like a faceless car company that produces boring cars.
Nissan is the best brand in the world. Nissan Leaf is the best and cheapest EV. Chevrolet Bolt is not made anymore. Everyone who does not like CVT of Nissan should drive a bus. Most cars have CVTs now, they have the highest MPG. Toyota is going all hybrids - and they will be very expensive and less reliable. Honda is just expensive and don't have a lot of options, just like Mazda. Hyundai and Kia are not as well made.
Too many Japanese vehicle brands(?)...Nissan has no solid brand identity...Toyota is #1, Honda will never die, Mazda is the 'sporty' brand and Subaru is for the eccentric ...
Nissan... May be the next Chrysler,Plymouth,Oldsmobile,Pontiac,Mercury,AMC,Studebaker etc...
I watch all your videos regardless, but these in office discussions seem more serious and professional than your walking the neighborhood and chatting ones. I prefer the professional approach.
Thanks for the feedback, I truly appreciate it.
It's interesting that the walk-and-talk videos are more consistent in views, but the in-office videos can do much better (or much worse!)
I think there's a good mix to be had, but right now I'm working to find it. Feedback like this is critical and I appreciate it!
Nissan has no future, they used to be great but due to cost cutting on everything they became unreliable and poorly-made. And even if they try something new it fails. For example the “e-POWER” is possibly the worst hybrid on sale right now. For example on the European Qashqai (a Rogue but slightly smaller and just as awful) it takes about 165k miles to save enough money on fuel to justify buying the hybrid variant. Overall as far as I’m concerned it’s a dead company.
The new Rogue with gas engine is selling very well right now.
@@stevenpollard5171 Nowhere near as good as the RAV4 or CR-V and not that much better than the Mazda CX-5 which while a great car has been almost the same since 2017.
Had 5 Nissans 2 of which were new. Never an issue even with the used vehicles. Would never touch any Nissan with a CVT transmission that seems to be their Achilles heel. Loved my 4 cyl 8 spark plug 1988 truck great power and sad they discontinued that engine.
I have an anecdote that I think shows how badly Nissan is doing. I live in a state that charges property tax on vehicles. When you lease a car, the leasing company pays the tax and sends you a bill for reimbursement. Instead of doing that, Nissan is so hard up for cash, they have been sending out estimated tax bills that are inflated by hundreds of dollars to customers. The bills say that if the estimate is wrong in the customer’s favor, the customer won’t be charged the difference. But if it’s in Nissans favor, the customer won’t get a refund! I called my town, and Nissan inflated my tax bill by over 400$!!! This tells you how hard up they are for cash and how slimy of a company they are.
That sounds like some lawyer some day is going to have a field day with them!
@@AllCarswithJon I already reported this to the state attorney general’s office. They have such gumption that when I showed them the actual tax bill from the town and refused to pay their estimated amount, they threatened me with a collection agency! Never do business with Nissan.
@@mongo64071 Wow.... just, wow.
The wonky CVT transmissions sort of killed Nissan for me. Why would you buy a ticking time bomb? That aside, I wanted to buy a small fuel efficient car, where did they go? Micra gone, hatchback Versa gone, a Sentra is virtually useless to me. Ok maybe a truck? No, I don't want a Frontier. Now what? Try now somebody else..........................
I tried buying new,base MT Versa from 6 dealerships in Ontario. What a disaster that was. If buying is such a hassle I can't imagine servicing vehicle there. Thanks,bye.
Don't get me started on their dealers. My whole family refuses to step foot again inside one of them in our city.
Should never quit making the titan
1.5 3 cylinder turbo 😳
were cvt transmissions the best thing ever nissan would have had the best portifolio out there
Too bad about reality, huh? 😅
@@k.b.tidwell the williams-renault f1 collaboration had cvt's as an experiment -maybe goosn was too close
But the VQ engines sound like poopie, as most V6 engines do but the VQ takes the cake, also why my l67 monte has a stock catback with headers and catless downpipe, I'll give up the 5 hp to sound stock-ish😂
sound like poopie ? 😂 ... vq engines sound good my friend
They develop and promote Ariya while continuing to install that stupid CVT that ruined their reputation. It's in everything except the trucks. When Nissan stood alone their engines and transmissions were bullet proof. My experience. Just bought a 2017 Frontier SV 4X4 because it's the only truck I trust. The CVT in the cars and every SUV except Armada, I do not trust. That transmission why people shy away from Nissan and now Infinity.
Sepiku time @ Nissan.
I honestly am about to go buy a brand new MANUAL versa just because it's a CHEAP car and MANUAL.
The Nissan I referenced in the video that I owned for 10 years was a manual Versa. At 10 years and 100k miles it was having some problems, but mostly electric (locks specifically)
Pass on Nissan.
Sooooo, bottom line, Nissan sucks.
Yep... Just like Chrysler,Plymouth,Pontiac,Oldsmobile,Mercury,AMC,Studebaker,Packard etc all sucked at the end...
I was never a fan. Their plastics were horrible.🤨
Cvt that killed Nissan
Nissan has a bad marriage with Renault
Nissan (or at least their reputation) has just fallen into the toilet since like 2005-2010. The CVT that they put in all their sedans and small crossover has been an albatross around their necks. In the 90s they were a legit #3 Japanese auto maker.
Nissan's vc technology is overly complex and a solution, searching for a problem...dumb idea 💡 🤔
Breaking News: Infiniti just announced that the Q50 sedan will be discontinued. Infiniti will now be a luxury CUV/SUV company now.
Yeah, I read that as well. Shame, I've always loved the look of the Q50 but it had some serious flaws and Infiniti's attitude was "good enough" - for 11 years. :)
BAE big altima energy BRE big Roguie energy Both crappy cars
Cvt is junk have a sentra with 4 transmissions