thanks for showing its performance, thinking about buying this welder for some basic pipe welding with tig, any chance you have an opinion on its performance tig welding steel?
Nick Simmons well it’s a great welding Machine and for doing lift TIG it will do just as good about as any for pipe welding if you’re not going to be changing the amperage while welding. and especially if you need to do E6010 this can be great for the price but if you plan on doing other projects that require high frequency tag or welding aluminum or other things like that it could be good to spend more and get one of their high-end multi process welding Machines but they tend to be a lot less portable so it just depends on what features you need if you have any other questions feel free to ask
For lift TIG it should be very similar to most machines I didn't have a TIG torch or argon there for it so I haven't tried TIG on it yet. For it's capability I think it's great there are obviously a lot of other companies that make maybe a more durable are compact package that do the same thing but tend to cost about twice as much so I have been happy. for me I would prefer to be a bit smaller butt it's fine
Was the machine in the video run on 120v or 240v? I am looking for a "small" inverter that will run respectably on 120v and am curious on your thoughts. I want something I can do respectable repairs with on up to 1/8" or possibly 3/16" wall steel, maybe 1/4" with small rods and multi-pass but that would be very rare. This 200STi looks like it will run 6010 very nicely from what I have found so far. That is great they packaged that in the machine (and a button for it, not a ground lead swap like the old 200ST = PITA when you are swapping rods for a 6010 root and 7018 fill + cap).
I was running the machine I believe in 220 V but it runs extremely well on 120 V as well I mainly chose to buy the machine because of its E6010 function and it does work very well there are a lot of really good multiprocess welding machines but they tend to cost a lot more so if you just want a stick welder that is going to work perfectly well I believe this is one of the best on the market and if you have a good 20 or 30 amp 120 V power supply it should run 1/8” rods no problem it is not as light as some of the inverter welding machines I have but if you don’t plan to always be carrying it around I think it’s perfectly fine
@@CreativityUnleashed Thanks for the reply. I ended up going with the 210STL and a full Tig outfit for it also. The PowerTIG 255EXT is on my radar (AC/DC tig machine) and the Tig accessories are interchangeable. The 210STL being DC-only doesn't suffice for Tig as I need AC for aluminum, but it will be interesting messing around with it on steel in the mean time. It will get me learning the motions. Its been years (10+) since I've run Tig.
thanks that's a great question when I purchased the 200STI the 210 models wasn't being produced it looks like the 210 has quite a few more useful features I haven't tried all of those features so I can't say how well they work but it definitely does look like some improvement if the price difference doesn't mean much to you I might just get the newer model with more features but if you're trying to save some money I think the older model would be very similar in capability.
200sti or 161sth. I'm new and learning but I'd like to buy a nice machine so I don't need a new one for a while. Is there one better than the other for just starting?
I gas a good question to ask is are you interested in learning multiple welding processes ? What are you planning to be doing or are you not sure yet ?
@@CreativityUnleashed I'm just looking more. I only want stick, my friend has tig/mig multi machine so I can try his. It looks like 161 has more options for tig so 200 for just stick is probably best? A bit cheaper too
The amperage I normally run 1/8" E6010 at depends on if I'm running open root or fillet welds most commonly on open Root I run 72 amps with 10 to 20% inductance And on fillet welds it just depends on the base metal thickness but I would say I tend to run them under a hundred amps with maybe a 10% hot start and 1.5 second time. I hope this answered your question and helps you out!!!!
Different people are going to say different things about the amperage and inductance / Arc Force to run an 1/8"E6010 depending if you're doing open root or fillet welds root opening land and pipe thickness are going to or plate thickness are going to change what your outcome is and what works best for you but for me an open route I normally run around 72 amps with 50% inductance or Arc Force. At welding school they had Miller machines we used didn't have a hot start so I got used to not using them so am not sure on open route what would be beneficial And then fillet welds I haven't done an access amount of them with E6010 but I normally run them at around 80 or so amps
Good question the link in tombstones have lasted a very long time and will continue to do so but as far as the new era of welding machines in what you can get out of a machine inverter welding machines work a lot better consume about a third less electricity to do the same thing and usually way a fraction of the amount so much more easy to move around multi-voltage options and you have a lot more advanced features and if you get something reputable like Everlast you should never have trouble with it either myself I don't think I would ever buy a Transformer welder again unless it's for collecting or something so I would definitely pick an inverter welder.
@@CreativityUnleashed thank you so much for the reply! Lincoln is such a respected brand but eating up electricity was something im considering you've made my decision easier :) SUBSCRIBED
Here is something to think about. I have an old Century flux core machine (small one, I think its an 80). It went out on me a couple years ago. I surpassed the duty cycle and some of the leads to the primary (it is a transformer machine, small but still transformer) melted. One of them was shorting to the ground lead going out to the ground/work clamp. When the machine was so much as plugged in (switch off even) it would zap me if I touched the clamp or work. That made welding quite interesting. In that time I got to looking at other machines. I researched inverters and looked at some of the older transformer machines. Something that really made an impression on me was how robust the old stuff is. The world could blow up and the only two things left would be cockroaches and transformer welders. They are basic and easy to work on, if something were to go (perhaps a rectifier if you get one that does DC). Unless you burn up a transformer, there isn't much on an old transformer machine you can't fix. Speaking of the transformers - the older and heavier the better. Newer ones (like the Lincoln AC or AC/DC 225 models) have lighter transformers and are easier to burn up. Miller Dialarcs and Lincoln Idealarcs from around the 70's or earlier are really hard to beat. For even "heavy" fabrication (heavy for any garage fab) I don't think you could possibly over-use an old transformer machine. If you look around there are tons of them on the used market and if you wait for the right one you can get them for next to nothing. As far as an inverter machine (any) - with all the computerization in them something eventually is going to go wrong and there isn't much you can fix. Even for someone skilled in soldering and board-level repairs it would be very difficult to repair an inverter. The easier "repair" to the inverters is if you can diagnose what board has an issue you can replace the whole board. But that comes at a cost - it could be several hundred dollars for a board. And what happens in 15 years when something goes and the manufacturer has been out of replacement parts/boards for 7 years having long since discontinued the machine? If it were me - and I think all welders should have one - I think we all need an old transformer "tombstone" welder around. When all else fails you will have it to always have something to stick metal together with. Yeah, if you like clean welds and are a MIG or TIG guy going "down to" stick welding might not be what ya want to do, but if your other machines go down and you can't repair them in a reasonable amount of time and something just has to get welded - there will always be the tombstone. Mine is a '66 Lincoln Round Top (Idealarc 250 AC/DC version, on a cart). You can check the restoration thread on the Welding Web forums here: weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/708543-1966-Round-Top-Idealarc-250. I haven't done anything to the machine to "make it work" - it welded beautifully from the first time I plugged it in. The fan needed to be freed up (dried lube in the bearings), but that was it. I just wanted it to look as good as it works - hence the restoration. But you don't have to do the work - even if you find an ugly machine that works as long as it works that's what matters. Then thank me in 15 years when the day comes you have to dust it off and stick metal together.
on a lot of machines it's called Arc Force and other machines it's called dig and as far as I understand they are doing the same thing And they are mainly just used for high penetrating electrodes like E6010
I have a power pro 164 from 5 years ago sitting in storage. It's a great acdc tig with lots of ac capability... also the 40a plasma and stick welder. Stick welder it basically only wants to run 7018 though. 6010 gotta run hot to get voltage up and even then it's off and on. But the 164 is 78lbs (model I have, non digital) I was considering this welder over the yeswelder 165. Mostly because it runs 6010 but also I trust Everlast. Just 4x the price... :( I've heard yeswelder works good but the amperage is over inflated with what actually is occurring at the electrode. Everlast I know for sure is dead accurate. I may bite the 400 bucks OR call Everlast and try to get a deal on last year's model direct from sales. ;)
My new Everlast PowerArc STI arrived by UPS this evening. Can’t wait to check it out this weekend. Thank you for the review. TJ
That's exciting!!! It's a great machine!
Fantastic review
thanks for showing its performance, thinking about buying this welder for some basic pipe welding with tig, any chance you have an opinion on its performance tig welding steel?
Nick Simmons well it’s a great welding Machine and for doing lift TIG it will do just as good about as any for pipe welding if you’re not going to be changing the amperage while welding. and especially if you need to do E6010 this can be great for the price but if you plan on doing other projects that require high frequency tag or welding aluminum or other things like that it could be good to spend more and get one of their high-end multi process welding Machines but they tend to be a lot less portable so it just depends on what features you need if you have any other questions feel free to ask
For lift TIG it should be very similar to most machines I didn't have a TIG torch or argon there for it so I haven't tried TIG on it yet. For it's capability I think it's great there are obviously a lot of other companies that make maybe a more durable are compact package that do the same thing but tend to cost about twice as much so I have been happy.
for me I would prefer to be a bit smaller butt it's fine
Was the machine in the video run on 120v or 240v? I am looking for a "small" inverter that will run respectably on 120v and am curious on your thoughts. I want something I can do respectable repairs with on up to 1/8" or possibly 3/16" wall steel, maybe 1/4" with small rods and multi-pass but that would be very rare. This 200STi looks like it will run 6010 very nicely from what I have found so far. That is great they packaged that in the machine (and a button for it, not a ground lead swap like the old 200ST = PITA when you are swapping rods for a 6010 root and 7018 fill + cap).
I was running the machine I believe in 220 V but it runs extremely well on 120 V as well I mainly chose to buy the machine because of its E6010 function and it does work very well there are a lot of really good multiprocess welding machines but they tend to cost a lot more so if you just want a stick welder that is going to work perfectly well I believe this is one of the best on the market and if you have a good 20 or 30 amp 120 V power supply it should run 1/8” rods no problem it is not as light as some of the inverter welding machines I have but if you don’t plan to always be carrying it around I think it’s perfectly fine
@@CreativityUnleashed Thanks for the reply. I ended up going with the 210STL and a full Tig outfit for it also. The PowerTIG 255EXT is on my radar (AC/DC tig machine) and the Tig accessories are interchangeable. The 210STL being DC-only doesn't suffice for Tig as I need AC for aluminum, but it will be interesting messing around with it on steel in the mean time. It will get me learning the motions. Its been years (10+) since I've run Tig.
Which one would you recommend between this model and the 210 just for stick welding and why?
thanks that's a great question when I purchased the 200STI the 210 models wasn't being produced it looks like the 210 has quite a few more useful features I haven't tried all of those features so I can't say how well they work but it definitely does look like some improvement if the price difference doesn't mean much to you I might just get the newer model with more features but if you're trying to save some money I think the older model would be very similar in capability.
200sti or 161sth. I'm new and learning but I'd like to buy a nice machine so I don't need a new one for a while. Is there one better than the other for just starting?
I gas a good question to ask is are you interested in learning multiple welding processes ?
What are you planning to be doing or are you not sure yet ?
@@CreativityUnleashed I'm just looking more. I only want stick, my friend has tig/mig multi machine so I can try his. It looks like 161 has more options for tig so 200 for just stick is probably best? A bit cheaper too
Does the sti still have the problem of the displayed amps being off like the st did?
I haven't noticed it being off I didn't use like an amp meter to find out so I'm not sure but it seem to be right on
Is this good for plate and pipe?
Show me your sets for 6010 1/8 I cant get it to turn on
The amperage I normally run 1/8" E6010 at depends on if I'm running open root or fillet welds most commonly on open Root I run 72 amps with 10 to 20% inductance
And on fillet welds it just depends on the base metal thickness but I would say I tend to run them under a hundred amps with maybe a 10% hot start and 1.5 second time.
I hope this answered your question and helps you out!!!!
@@CreativityUnleashed what about hot start and arc force for open root and fillet welds , sorry thank you for answering
Different people are going to say different things about the amperage and inductance / Arc Force to run an 1/8"E6010 depending if you're doing open root or fillet welds root opening land and pipe thickness are going to or plate thickness are going to change what your outcome is and what works best for you but for me an open route I normally run around 72 amps with 50% inductance or Arc Force. At welding school they had Miller machines we used didn't have a hot start so I got used to not using them so am not sure on open route what would be beneficial
And then fillet welds I haven't done an access amount of them with E6010 but I normally run them at around 80 or so amps
Is this newer than the Everlast PowerArc 300?
I am not sure about that you may have to check with the company about that.
@@CreativityUnleashed appreciate the reply sir
should I get this or a Lincoln 225 Tombstone Ac/DC
Good question the link in tombstones have lasted a very long time and will continue to do so but as far as the new era of welding machines in what you can get out of a machine inverter welding machines work a lot better consume about a third less electricity to do the same thing and usually way a fraction of the amount so much more easy to move around multi-voltage options and you have a lot more advanced features and if you get something reputable like Everlast you should never have trouble with it either myself I don't think I would ever buy a Transformer welder again unless it's for collecting or something so I would definitely pick an inverter welder.
@@CreativityUnleashed thank you so much for the reply! Lincoln is such a respected brand but eating up electricity was something im considering you've made my decision easier :) SUBSCRIBED
Here is something to think about. I have an old Century flux core machine (small one, I think its an 80). It went out on me a couple years ago. I surpassed the duty cycle and some of the leads to the primary (it is a transformer machine, small but still transformer) melted. One of them was shorting to the ground lead going out to the ground/work clamp. When the machine was so much as plugged in (switch off even) it would zap me if I touched the clamp or work. That made welding quite interesting. In that time I got to looking at other machines. I researched inverters and looked at some of the older transformer machines. Something that really made an impression on me was how robust the old stuff is. The world could blow up and the only two things left would be cockroaches and transformer welders. They are basic and easy to work on, if something were to go (perhaps a rectifier if you get one that does DC). Unless you burn up a transformer, there isn't much on an old transformer machine you can't fix. Speaking of the transformers - the older and heavier the better. Newer ones (like the Lincoln AC or AC/DC 225 models) have lighter transformers and are easier to burn up. Miller Dialarcs and Lincoln Idealarcs from around the 70's or earlier are really hard to beat. For even "heavy" fabrication (heavy for any garage fab) I don't think you could possibly over-use an old transformer machine. If you look around there are tons of them on the used market and if you wait for the right one you can get them for next to nothing. As far as an inverter machine (any) - with all the computerization in them something eventually is going to go wrong and there isn't much you can fix. Even for someone skilled in soldering and board-level repairs it would be very difficult to repair an inverter. The easier "repair" to the inverters is if you can diagnose what board has an issue you can replace the whole board. But that comes at a cost - it could be several hundred dollars for a board. And what happens in 15 years when something goes and the manufacturer has been out of replacement parts/boards for 7 years having long since discontinued the machine? If it were me - and I think all welders should have one - I think we all need an old transformer "tombstone" welder around. When all else fails you will have it to always have something to stick metal together with. Yeah, if you like clean welds and are a MIG or TIG guy going "down to" stick welding might not be what ya want to do, but if your other machines go down and you can't repair them in a reasonable amount of time and something just has to get welded - there will always be the tombstone. Mine is a '66 Lincoln Round Top (Idealarc 250 AC/DC version, on a cart). You can check the restoration thread on the Welding Web forums here: weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/708543-1966-Round-Top-Idealarc-250. I haven't done anything to the machine to "make it work" - it welded beautifully from the first time I plugged it in. The fan needed to be freed up (dried lube in the bearings), but that was it. I just wanted it to look as good as it works - hence the restoration. But you don't have to do the work - even if you find an ugly machine that works as long as it works that's what matters. Then thank me in 15 years when the day comes you have to dust it off and stick metal together.
Arc force is that the same as a dig future? Thanks
on a lot of machines it's called Arc Force and other machines it's called dig and as far as I understand they are doing the same thing
And they are mainly just used for high penetrating electrodes like E6010
Creativity Unleashed awesome thanks!!!
Keep your head back from your work a little more and you will eat less smoke. Very good demonstration just the same.
How much madam/ sir
what do you mean?
I have a power pro 164 from 5 years ago sitting in storage. It's a great acdc tig with lots of ac capability... also the 40a plasma and stick welder.
Stick welder it basically only wants to run 7018 though. 6010 gotta run hot to get voltage up and even then it's off and on. But the 164 is 78lbs (model I have, non digital)
I was considering this welder over the yeswelder 165. Mostly because it runs 6010 but also I trust Everlast. Just 4x the price... :(
I've heard yeswelder works good but the amperage is over inflated with what actually is occurring at the electrode. Everlast I know for sure is dead accurate.
I may bite the 400 bucks OR call Everlast and try to get a deal on last year's model direct from sales. ;)
Good show. tu
HF rods they work but compared to other rods they're the worse.