@@Steve30xThey DID achieve quality at times. I recently sold my 1997 ZX estate to a mate who is still happily running around in it. At 26 years old it has no rust, the engine never misses a beat and it does 50mpg
@@Steve30x That is simply not true. The BX was a good car, I would say average European quality. The Xantia was even so reliable and durable that it was almost as reliable as an average Japanese car and even more durable. The ZX was very reliable, but dull, so people did not care; they were scrapped for lack of worth.
@@giorgiotommasini6828 well the purpse is to be alb eto ride by young people and its safier than scooter . BUT there is a BUT , i dont even wanna waist time about this crap , how the hell cost of producing this crap is such high to charge from people 8000 my god........ you can buy used leaf for this lol . Mike can easly make this kind of crap in his garage. This came from citroen company that makes cars , i dont know if they pay some side smaller companies to make them becouse i cant belive that cost of producing this is such high ..... Maybe they want check if people will buy that even if this is crap on four wheels such a money jsut becouse its '''different''
This is why we needed Clarkson on Topgear. He would have made sure the whole world knew this car was a joke and Citroen simply wouldn't get away with it.
Top Gear argued in court that they were an entertainment show, not an information show, when they were caught blatantly lying about electric cars. So if you went to Top Gear to get information you'd never know if the car they're trashing was actually bad or if the writers just decided to trash it because they thought it would make for more entertaining TV.
or the poor quality of UK houses as seen in the video.....windows that open outwards (UK houses have weak interior walls and small rooms for the German, Belgian French windows which are installed on the inside) , plastic window ledges, cheap flat roofs and plastic drain pipes and gutters, the lofts are prefab so cant be used as rooms, there are no bricks on interior walls upstairs , no basement, and each of these 'features' are more overpriced than an Ami 🤦🏻
@@richy69ify In the Netherlands there is a HUGE shortage of houses.... I am fortunate not having a family and living judst with my doggies... they accept anything I find suitable... last two years I managed hiding/living/surviving in the workshop I rent.... now it’s fine... in winter it is not...
What a disgrace for Citroen... Hopefully they will choke on this crap for pushing this to their customers/ Thank you for taking time and making this video/ Hopefully more and more people will see it and spread the word. I really hope Citroen will feel that and hopefully learn the lesson/
Chinese people must laugh hard at us, for the same money they got little cars who are genuine cars like the Wuling mini EV who basically have all of a normal car for half the price of an Ami....
@@manu.yt25 If only people knew just how much they are laughing! They can design them better, engineer them better and build them better for less! The Wuling Mini EV is a prime example... Love the little jeep they've just launched... It even has electric seats. Ami hasn't even got proper seats. Just a steel frame that starts to squeak with plastic panels clipped on. Cheers!
You would be better off nailing a two short planks across a pair of e scooters and ratchet strapping a wheely bin to the top of them. Cut holes for windows and doors
I totally agree with you. My grand daughter has got one. It’s red with a yellow roof, the build and finish is only a little bit better. Plus, it’s got no windows or engine! You have to move along by putting your feet down and kind of walking whilst sitting in it. It’s good on fuel though. Oh and it’s only got one door.
@@anthonytube Thankyou for your kind reply. I totally feel for you. It seems that the dealer and Citroen have lost their way with your car. But, the car itself, is a winner. The lightweight materials and the anti corrosion properties they have will keep it on the road cheaper and longer. Good luck and don’t give up.
As the owner of a somewhat newer Citroen I can tell you it will never end. My car needs constant fixes to the electronics, mainly, that keep cropping up year after year...
I'd suggest writing to Citroën directly. Make a formal complaint and demand a proper response to let them know that you're taking this very seriously and willing to escalate the complaint, if needed. This kind of quality is unacceptable.
No. The law says you have to complain to the one who sold you the car. I.e. the dealer. He could ask a refund and cancel the sale. That would probably mean legal action, though.
@@ronaldderooij1774 nothing to say that you can't provide 'feedback' direct to the company... In fact, to be honest, I'd say we'd have better vehicles if more people did...
As of March 2023, the Citroën Ami has not been crash tested by Euro NCAP. The Ami is a quadricycle, not a car, and therefore it does not have to meet the increasingly rigorous safety standards that new cars have to pass. Even a minor impact and the occupants would be dead.
That's correct, I researched all of this before buying as only use on the seafront for 4 miles each way but yes any impact would be very bad. The frame has notches to bend inwards to absorb energy but anything real speed would be awful! Cheers
Yes it is widely known that it isn’t a car yet people do keep referring to it as one. It’s misleading. It is as you say a quad. However unlike a motorcycle it’s only going to get to moped speeds, presents a bigger profile and has 4 wheels so has more grip so fatalities are unlikely. You cannot fall off an Ami! Many people survive motorcycle accidents.
I choose a car to give me survival in an impact so this would scare me. However, i ride motorcycles too and no chance of surviving a car hit. I do notice larger Citroens do seem to be built a lot better.
@@craigyllyn For 8k you can buy yourself a decent older car or maybe get a great deal on an Renault Zoe or something like that. Like a real, Crash tested car and not a cheap electric Quad with a plastic housing. Even that it flips in corners isn't that great. Quads do that too, but with them you can also ride a little of road and they aren't meant for high cornering speeds.
@@jensharbers6702 we essentially agree. Personally I prefer a bike to a quad. Also I would get a car instead but they exist and I applaud the decision to make them as they have their place. Low speed urban mobility especially in inclement weather when a bike can be miserable , I think. If we all wanted to be the same the world would be very boring.
If you can get your money back I would definitely buy something else. The defects that you see now are very annoying, but if you are like me then they would bother me much more over time. It is better to get something that you are happy with as soon as possible so that you can put all of this behind you. Thank you for making this video to let others know what to expect if they are looking at one of these vehicles.
If you are not happy with the quality tell them to take it back. There is no point stressing yourself out over other peoples failures to do a good job. Life is to short for that.
there should be no issues with panel alignment as they came properly sized out of production line. Unless it had an accident or something and things got deformed. Worth looking into it.
It's absolutely disgusting...reject it again immediately... you need to inspect it before you take delivery.. I think I will just stick with my smart car as I was seriously thinking of one as my smart is 17 years old now, and it's been brilliant ... I'm pleased I've seen this, and im not surprised you're gutted 🤔
Thank you so much! I was so annoyed upon seeing it and dealer asked me what I wanted to do. I said I'd drive home and see but literally from the moment I jumped in I was gutted! I just liked the idea of the Ami, the concept and being so cheap to run... However it's been a troubling experience and hate people even the dealer saying 'You need to manage expectation' but being budget and being poorly built are two very different things! Best wishes Carl :-)
@yawroc .. It was the price that was appealing to me for the Ami as my Smart 450 at the time in 2005 cost me around 7k new which was easy doable at the time ... but the new smarts now are a lot of money ridiculous really as my wages haven't really went up much in comparison ... I think I may just keep it running and it might see me out 🤞
After watching your channel I have decided to cancel my order for an Ami.I was so impressed with concept and was one of the people who showed interest in bringing the Ami to the UK!.I have been sitting on the fence to order one,but took the plunge a couple of months ago,but after videos like yours has made me rethink!.🙏🏼
I’m so sorry! I also wanted Ami to come and put deposit down in early 2021 then cancelled it once learned the price had gone up £2000. I then saw one in Milan and ordered again. I loved the concept and l love driving the Ami despite the flaws of mine. However quality seems worse on the latest versions so glad to have mine back despite it leaking in the rain! To be honest I’d give it a miss for now. Maybe pick up a 2021/22 model in a year or so as lots will get handed back then. Very best wishes Anthony 😊
@@anthonytube Anthony,with regards to the £2000 increase,it seems to be that from what I hear it was never going to be £6000,it was an estimate price,gauged on the euro pricing.When it was announced it was going to be available in the UK at £8000,I instantly changed my mind,but decided to go for one later after seeing loads of reviews.I will not be changing my mind again,I will look at alternatives.I hope you get a resolution that you deserve.All the very best.Phil
Thanks mate! Yes I think it was based on the Euro pricing that started then in 2020 at €5500 - €6000 so when they said £7600 basic I thought it was a bit much... Although a lot has changed post Brexit/Covid. Very best wishes Ant
Wow I am shocked by the quality of the frame/ crash structure of the car I have built stronger go carts in my garage I am truly shocked at how cheap that has been put together
Get back down the dealer ASAP, give them a decent ultimatum that's weighted in YOUR favour, see what they say. This is a brand new £8000 piece of equipment which is clearly exhibiting a number of design issues, and build quality issues. Get it off your chest soon, otherwise it will drive you wild. I was really into these, but your video has given me the 'willies' and actually scared me off - I couldn't bear the hassle. Your video and dissatisfaction wasn't in vain my friend, you've saved me a lot of sleepless nights.
@@byteme9718 What a load of nonsense (what "consumer law" are you referring to?!) - you need to have a read of the 'Sale of Goods Acts 1979'. The dealer is 100% responsible for the quality and fitness for purpose, of the goods they are selling. This chap has the right to demand everything is dealt with and fixed, at the dealer's expense.
@@RockLobster223 Which makes the seller liable as the contract is between them and the buyer. The dealers don't sell the Ami, they're forced by Citroen UK to display them and to direct buyers to them. They're not involved in the sale and are not responsible under any consumer legislation. This is an odd situation and I'm sure one the dealers welcome because the alternative would be for Citroen to force the dealer to buy from them and then retail. None I know of want anything to do with these at any level, especially not as retailers where the usual consumer legislation applies.
Thanks for sharing Anthony and condolences on the disappointment. Having grown-up in the car business it looks like what I've seen when manufacturers up production and cut costs to maximize profit margins. And dealers aren't concerned for customer satisfaction. Some of the issues like the badge, wiper and light bracket could be resolved easily, but other fitment issues with the doors and body panels are related to major frame or assembly misalignment, they may not be resolvable, however, I wonder if the front body panels might be missing some structure? As for the rust, personally, with with any AMI, I'd be inclined to personally clean the surfaces of rust, treat them with rust inhibiting paint and coat the frame and metal parts with rubberized undercoating. I might suggest rejecting it for defects within your grace period (in the U.S. it's three days). I've rejected new vehicles from Ford, GM and MB for major defects I discovered after delivery. in the case of the Ford SUV, the wrong transmission and cooling system were installed over what I ordered and were on the build sheet, and other defects such as missing sun-roof seals, Seat-belt latches that would not release and trapped me and a front seat passenger. requiring cutting of the passenger belt to get her out. Rather than buy the car back, Ford had a special rep to deal with such issues, and eventually I negotiated with Ford who refunded $12,000, installed the heavy duty cooling system it was supposed to have, fixed the other issues (except the wrong transmission) and I accepted the car. Perhaps Citroen at the factory level might do something such as fixing the issues and offer financial compensation (basically give up their profit), and that might save you from having to wait months and risk the same later. You likely have some leverage with your channel and presenting this comment to Citroen as a suggestion from a viewer that would benefit you, Citroen and help to promote rather than reflect negatively on the product might help to convince Citroen you have concern for the brand and are not out to take advantage.
Thank you so much for taking the time to offer your advice! I really appreciate it! So right now it’s a case of third time lucky then if no better I’ll ask for my money back! Thanks again and best wishes! Anthony :-)
The panel fitment problems will probably be the same with any new model you might get. This kind of plastic, the same kind as is used in port-a-potties, is by it's nature not a precision product. Fitment is a lot like plastics on 70's and 80's cars. Door alignment is probably something that can be easily fixed, as are the other little problems. The rusting welds are not good, but can definitely be protected and that's something he should do regardless. All in all, it must suck to get a worse version of a car he's purchased, but on the other hand, the price is extremely competitive so at least the fitment issues just come with the territory.
@@Oldsmobile69 I've become friends with Tim in France who has the 'Me and Mon Ami' channel (th-cam.com/video/-LkGuyJAw2E/w-d-xo.html ), and bought an early Ami, and he's done some video about the fit of his Ami, and from what I can glean from his videos, Anthony's Ami seems pretty inferior to Tim's in terms of body panel rigidity and fit, and overall quality, and seems quite happy with it. I wonder if Anthony might have been shipped a second 'Friday Special' as a replacement? I had GM do that once with a Trans-Am I bought back in the 80's that was assembled by some of the first robot spot welders and after 5,000 miles, the spot welds, uni-body frame and panels were literally coming apart. The replacement vehicle (a year newer model) the provided was a customer return that had an engine along with other issues, had the wrong sized main-bearings that seized in 500miles. The car had so many issues that was so costly to repair, GM refused and said "Take us to Court, it will be cheaper than dealing with you and this POS Vehicle"
@@jackoneil3933 It's probably a fairly low tech factory with very poor worker skill levels and lots of pressure to pump these out as fast as possible to meet demand. I can't help thinking the sales in Europe will tank once someone does a real crash test on Amis and figures out how dangerous it is in a crash. Sad, since I really, really like the look of this car.
I have a 17 year old Smart ForFour. Not known for stellar build quality, but it seems pretty near perfect compared to this. The plastic panels seem to be made out of the same material used for margarine tubs, and compared to your videos of your previous car, the panels do seem to be thinner. Shocker, car manufacturer saves on material. A dismally assembled vehicle. Return and find a decent i-Miev.
You’ll have to reject it again. Citroen must have fired their entire quality assurance team That rust may not be an issue in the south of France but in the UK it won’t last 5 minutes I love the Amie, but not way I’m buying one
I did just that! Yes there was even a check list in the little folder but just discovered the screen was bottle has a little layer of concentrate but no water... The jets don't even hit the screen! My old Ami was rust free as I treated it so this one has been sitting around as going rusty already! I think they already have a yard full of problem Ami's and just create passable ones. Certainly QC is poor at best well on this one for sure! Best wishes Anthony :-)
We did look at the Ami but after watching this you make a great car sales executive showing us all the fine points🤔 and I think we will give Ami a miss
I really enjoy driving my Ami and at this point want my old one back! Even if it does leak! I would check everything 100% before taking the plunge! Best wishes Anthony:-)
I was considering one, if it ever gets to Ireland. I don't think I'll bother now. There are many positive videos and reports out there about the Ami but my feeling is that Stelantis/Citroën have made cost cuts on the newer builds of this little quadricycle. Shame on them.
I think you are right... I saw differences in quality and finish not taking into account all the flaws already present in the Ami! Crazy I thought it was already available as in the North now. However it's just not ideal on Irish roads or say around Antrim as too many hills and drivers would get mad! It's a shame as they are taking their eye of the ball in the name of volume and profit! Best wishes over to you! ✌️
That will be the problem if this goes to court. The buyer almost certainly had the opportunity to inspect a similar vehicle and still chose to buy a piece of crap. He got a piece of crap so where's the issue other than small details about how one piece if crap compares to another piece of crap.
All this points to is they are making a loss on Ami sales and they are seriously cutting corners on labour and parts. It’s so obvious that as little time as possible is going into them, be it repairs or builds. Doug’s shed broke the top suspension mount on his Ami - it just came away from the bonding. He also tightened everything up himself and applied a wax coating to the inner parts of all the frame. Things you just shouldn’t be doing with a brand name. As someone said ages ago, he would rather buy a Nissan leaf 1st generation for half the price, because it’s a *car* and not a quadricycle with proper NCAP testing and airbags. Anyway, this is the future of the EV industry. It either makes it or fails miserably. One autocar report suggested that an EV at 4 years has only a 51% return , whereas a petrol as approx 62% and a diesel slightly less. Because of battery diminishing
You are so right! I live ICE cars but just loved the cheeky Ami and my little daughter Ava loves it also… like Doug I rust treated frame but you’re right you shouldn’t have to do this! Either they are cutting corners due to slow sales or increased demand who knows but one thing for sure is the QC folks are sleeping on the job! You can buy a lot of car for £8-£9k! What will happen (and I hope it never does) is someone will get badly hurt in one and Citroen will be in real trouble. Imagine the struct coming away at 28 mph? No ABS, no traction control, no airbags? I knew all this but the more I think of it maybe I was silly buying one ! Best wishes Anthony 😊
@@anthonytube Yes i just googled it. I took it for granted that you could buy the spring. But i saw that it wont be available in the UK before summer 2024. I bought mine in Germany in 2021. At least you will get the new, improved version with some extra features when it launches in the UK :)
Good Lord, this is abbysmall. Were the Citroen QC department out for lunch when this thing came through? and for 8000 bloody pounds? surely a halfway decent e-bike or moped would be better? This honestly looks like one of those shady aliexpress cars that violate a dozen safety regulations, crazy.
I was looking into one of these when they were first announced, and by the looks of things you've saved me a very expensive and wasteful credit agreement! _Merci beaucoup!_ 💳💸👍 I'll start off in saying when I first looked at it, that £8,000.- price was (iirc) the basic OTR spec in the UK. The equivalent spec in France was €5,000.- OTR at the same time - So £3,556.- of the UK price was a Brexit💩 „Benefit“ and nothing else - And for elegible French citizens there was also a 20% EV grant on offer. Even without the grant I was intending to save a lot of time, hassle & money by ordering through a French dealership, and using some of the savings to buy a Eurostar ticket. 🚄💰👍 Understandably, Citroën had *floods* of orders for the Ami under these conditions and would've been under a lot of pressure to fulfil them, and might also have been forced to shoulder some of the burden of the EV grant scheme. Under these conditions they'll have been slapping the Ami's together as quickly as they possibly could, reducing fabrication times as much as possible (Hence the flimsier parts) and as all Ami's look alike they'll have been sending the C-grade stuff to „Poundland“ as UK consumer rights over poor product quality are a lot less than for any EU citizen. 🛂🇪🇺📜 My plan to buy an Ami derailed when I found out my landlord would veto any attempt I made to install charging equipment (We have a communal parking area) so I never went ahead, but by the look of things - When it comes to electric vehicles from France - I'd be much better off sticking with my long-preferred EV manufacturer: Alstom. 🚄🇫🇷❤🔥⚡💨😇 #ViveLeTGV! 🚄🇫🇷❤🔥
I didn't realise they were so much cheaper in France! That'll explain why it's built like a £3.5k RRP vehicle, not an £8k RRP vehicle. They're just demonstrating pure greed in the UK market, as there's no way it should cost more than double here & they haven't even tried to make improvements to justify the price increase... 🤷🏽♂️
That’s a great idea and would be assembled with more care! You can remove front and rear very easily just open frame and some wiring etc. best wishes Anthony
Under the sale of goods act, it should be of merchantable quality, the defects you have identified in the film, in my opinion, do not meet that criteria. The fact that this is an inexpensive car that has been built to a budget does not mean that it should exhibit the problems shown. Looks like it is sloppy build quality and I am sure that removing the panels & re-fitting these would resolve the problems, which should be done by Citroen or their dealer, these do seem to be unduly flexible, like it is missing stiffeners. Doors must have some sort of adjustment to get these to fit correctly, again, that is something that they should do. I think you should again raise this with Citroen, it is brand-new and they should not have delivered something that is sub-standard, how very frustrating, go back to them for another replacement, could be third time lucky!
Thank you so much and I agree with you 100%! I have been on with Ami and a 3rd replacement is going to arrive as soon as possible as waited months for this one. The quality is so poor on this version and everything just flexes around. There's even a slight hump on the p/side floor. I think the issues are more apparent as I've owned one for the last 6 months. Thanks again and appreciate your advice! :-) Best wishes Anthony :-)
@@anthonytube Excellent! If you original Ami is still at the dealer, would be interesting to see if you can do a side by side comparison with it re panel thickness etc
@@jmiller991 Definitely! They moved it to their compound so would be tricky on site I think... Probably fed up with me! They earn about £250 handing it over so don't want to waste too much time!
Sorry £8000 is very cheap for a new anything. Harrods was selling a miniature electric/pedal powered Range Rover for the kids at £16,000. That was probably better made than this though.
Not sure whether to call it a nice plant pot or a rubbish car. I cannot understand why they would let that thing leave the factory. Hope you get it sorted out.
This really makes the Ami out to be something in between the Mitsubishi iMEV and any one of those Chinese literally adapted golf carts that are really practical in many Chinese villages, but people fail to appreciate that. Actually the Ami could probably do well in that market.
We used to have a C4 Grand Picasso and at 4 years old it suffered failed ABS, intermittent check engine lamp / limp home, loose exterior trim and is the only car I've ever owned that unscrewed it's own injectors. We dubbed it the Shitroën. Ditched it, bought a Skoda and never looked back.
A shame because I thought it'd be a great little car, to see the build quality is so terrible has made me rethink it. Probably will go for a second hand twizy or something
@@MeandMonAmi It's a great concept and great fun to drive however the quality is very inconsistent and sadly maybe not suited to UK weather either. As I said from the start I love the Ami and enjoy driving it but after waiting 5 months for replacement (my Ami leaks and has limited clearance on rear) the replacement was much worse in terms of finish. I'm a fan of the Ami, own cars, love cars but sadly the last car shows very poor quality control. Made worse by the awful service. Best wishes Anthony
So there's a few things to consider here. Firstly, expectations. Your expectations are clearly high, if you'd ever bought a brand new car before you'd know they are never 'perfect'. Even bentleys can be rejected on quality grounds. If you're fussy and you look hard enough you'll find a problem anywhere. The Ami is a I have car in many ways, it offers relatively cheap motoring transport for two people. But there are trade offs with a cheap car built deliberately lightly for reasons of performance. I honestly think that there are better Ami's than yours and also worse. Basically, if you want a premium experience then move up market, maybe japanese? But I'm guessing you bought it because it's cheap, there's a reason for that!
Man I am relly sorry to see this rip-off "Ami", it looks like is not a car(build whise), toy cars are build more sturdy than this.... Go for a Dacia if avelaible in your region or Renault if the budget cannot go over 8000. Good luck returning it, and take care! Cheers
Would not be accepting that, the quality is awful. It looks like poor materials choice and engineering tolerances. Mention your going to Trading Standards to the dealer if they won't help. It usually gets things done. If your still having issues and its a main dealer write to the CEO.
WoW my first car was a 1956 Morris Minor and it woud leave that Citroen for dead in finish way back then. I would get back to Citroen and demand a car with a good finish, with No faults. Good Luck, and Grettings from Oz 👍
Never buy an Ami. There is zero crash protection to save you from being hit by anything and they're massively overpriced quadracycles. Better to spend £8k on a 3 year old electric MG/ Nissan Leaf.
A 24mph car is a stupid idea let alone a heap of dog waste like this. You can biy a decent 2cv for £8k and it will be tax free and apreciate in value and be a lot of fun or just buy a bike.
The lack of substance underneath suggests this Sinclair C5 masquerading as a car would not be a good place to be in a crash. Seems also recent good Citroen anti corrosion performance has stepped back to rival 1970s cars which did well to last 5 years. This thing seems to be an exercise in unsustainability for both itself and its hapless occupants. Do buyers not have a chance to look at the car in a showroom before deciding to order?
Ask your money back ! I have seen other videos of customers complaining about many issues with this car. I am so sorry for you because I am French, and it's a french brand.
It’s interesting this view and maybe you didn’t watch other videos? This was to show that the replacement was worse quality than the original. If this was my 1st one and didn’t wait months maybe you would have a point.
This is my 7th 480! It’s an ES with 22k from new! It’s beautiful and I have a 480 turbo that needs tlc after 20 years on the driveway!! Sure I’ll do a little video! Best wishes Anthony 😊
You seem like a nice guy.... but this serves you right. You encouraged them that building and selling this was a good idea. I hope you have learned your lesson.
I am a nice guy but definitely didn’t encourage anything. I just wanted cheap, clean transport. Sadly Citroen didn’t care about quality consistency and service slow and difficult so yes lesson learned!! 😊
Coming from an engineering/automotive background, I can't even believe what I'm seeing in this video. It makes the Top Gear Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust look like an engineering marvel. Worst of all there's a child seat in there....
Sad to say having seen the pictures of these cars when they were originally available, I just knew I couldn't even be seen in one, let alone buy one! But, each to his own. However, just had a look and there's a lovely 1965 Ami for sale in West Yorkshire for £5k. Eco friendly 602cc engine and no road tax. Which would you choose??😇
Shocking. And you didn't mention that it's in primer, has not even been painted! It really doesn't look like it's made by a major first world car manufacturer. I'm surprised they want to be associated with it, but looking at the badge on yours it would seem they intend it to become anonymous soon after sale. For taht price you could get a gorgeous secondhand proper car with an engine.
The Citroën Ami is built in Marocco obviously with little to no automation as far as the welding is concerned, I would suspect. Therefore I suspect huge differences subsequently occure from car to car resulting in unavoidable lack of accuracy and therefore rattling all over the place that you observe. The price compared to the quality you get I would say is not justified. If it were cheaper, one would be more motivated to overlook the shortcomings. To my opinion the best would be to return the Ami and would try to get a Wuling Mini EV for about the same money which is in the same category.
So Citroen customers are now responsible for quality control. Who knew?
Yes and well with the Ami at least doing a better job!! Cheers ! Anthony :-)
Citroen have always been bad quality cars.
@@Steve30xThey DID achieve quality at times. I recently sold my 1997 ZX estate to a mate who is still happily running around in it. At 26 years old it has no rust, the engine never misses a beat and it does 50mpg
Nothing new. Have experienced instances where factory new peugeots have arrived with defective onboard chargers...
@@Steve30x That is simply not true. The BX was a good car, I would say average European quality. The Xantia was even so reliable and durable that it was almost as reliable as an average Japanese car and even more durable. The ZX was very reliable, but dull, so people did not care; they were scrapped for lack of worth.
I imagine someone rejected it before it was passed to you .
Who knows! That’s a good point! Best wishes Anthony 😊
Why would you buy an abomination like that in the first place??🤣
@@giorgiotommasini6828 well the purpse is to be alb eto ride by young people and its safier than scooter . BUT there is a BUT , i dont even wanna waist time about this crap , how the hell cost of producing this crap is such high to charge from people 8000 my god........ you can buy used leaf for this lol . Mike can easly make this kind of crap in his garage. This came from citroen company that makes cars , i dont know if they pay some side smaller companies to make them becouse i cant belive that cost of producing this is such high ..... Maybe they want check if people will buy that even if this is crap on four wheels such a money jsut becouse its '''different''
Yes - as it had clearly been bodged so much!
This is why we needed Clarkson on Topgear. He would have made sure the whole world knew this car was a joke and Citroen simply wouldn't get away with it.
I could only imagine that review!
Top Gear argued in court that they were an entertainment show, not an information show, when they were caught blatantly lying about electric cars. So if you went to Top Gear to get information you'd never know if the car they're trashing was actually bad or if the writers just decided to trash it because they thought it would make for more entertaining TV.
Citroen must’ve felt confident exporting the Ami to the UK after taking a closer look at Allegro’s and Marina’s.....
or the poor quality of UK houses as seen in the video.....windows that open outwards (UK houses have weak interior walls and small rooms for the German, Belgian French windows which are installed on the inside) , plastic window ledges, cheap flat roofs and plastic drain pipes and gutters, the lofts are prefab so cant be used as rooms, there are no bricks on interior walls upstairs , no basement, and each of these 'features' are more overpriced than an Ami 🤦🏻
they wern't as bad as this Plastic car.
@@richy69ify In the Netherlands there is a HUGE shortage of houses.... I am fortunate not having a family and living judst with my doggies... they accept anything I find suitable... last two years I managed hiding/living/surviving in the workshop I rent.... now it’s fine... in winter it is not...
What a disgrace for Citroen... Hopefully they will choke on this crap for pushing this to their customers/ Thank you for taking time and making this video/ Hopefully more and more people will see it and spread the word. I really hope Citroen will feel that and hopefully learn the lesson/
What i can't believe is that you paid £8,000 for that monstrosity 😂
No one's perfect! Lol
@@anthonytube fuck him Anthony,the monstrosity here,it's that he don't have any money to expend like you or to feed his family..🤔
Go and price these electric cars - most especially try pricing a replacement battery.
Chinese people must laugh hard at us, for the same money they got little cars who are genuine cars like the Wuling mini EV who basically have all of a normal car for half the price of an Ami....
@@manu.yt25 If only people knew just how much they are laughing! They can design them better, engineer them better and build them better for less! The Wuling Mini EV is a prime example... Love the little jeep they've just launched... It even has electric seats. Ami hasn't even got proper seats. Just a steel frame that starts to squeak with plastic panels clipped on. Cheers!
That is appalling. Even if it cost half the price I'd still be fuming at how badly it's thrown together.
My thoughts exactly! Cheers 😊
I was thinking that, it's worth £3000 but not £8000.
You would be better off nailing a two short planks across a pair of e scooters and ratchet strapping a wheely bin to the top of them. Cut holes for windows and doors
@@billynomates920 You could be onto something there! :-)
That'll rust through within 12 months. Get shut of it. An get your money back
I totally agree with you. My grand daughter has got one. It’s red with a yellow roof, the build and finish is only a little bit better. Plus, it’s got no windows or engine! You have to move along by putting your feet down and kind of walking whilst sitting in it. It’s good on fuel though. Oh and it’s only got one door.
Oh man I need that laugh! 😂😂😂 The good old little tikes Cozy Coupe!! Lol Best regards Anthony
@@anthonytube Thankyou for your kind reply. I totally feel for you. It seems that the dealer and Citroen have lost their way with your car. But, the car itself, is a winner. The lightweight materials and the anti corrosion properties they have will keep it on the road cheaper and longer. Good luck and don’t give up.
Fred Flintstone would feel perfectly at home in it then🤣🤣
@@keithbrowes1974 😂
Lol, my son had the police version. Still very low mileage and no rust!
It's the sort of thing I'd expect to see outside someone's property accompanying a sign saying "free to a good home"
As the owner of a somewhat newer Citroen I can tell you it will never end. My car needs constant fixes to the electronics, mainly, that keep cropping up year after year...
Sorry to hear that! Best wishes Anthony
I just bought an old Renault. I fear for it's reliability
I'd suggest writing to Citroën directly. Make a formal complaint and demand a proper response to let them know that you're taking this very seriously and willing to escalate the complaint, if needed. This kind of quality is unacceptable.
No. The law says you have to complain to the one who sold you the car. I.e. the dealer. He could ask a refund and cancel the sale. That would probably mean legal action, though.
@@ronaldderooij1774 no need for legal action, the car must be by law, be of reasonable quality and fit for purpose.
@@curtisj2165 No need for legal action if the dealer agrees to that assessment. But he won't. So yeah, what else can be done then. Murder him?
@@ronaldderooij1774 nothing to say that you can't provide 'feedback' direct to the company... In fact, to be honest, I'd say we'd have better vehicles if more people did...
@@FIRE_in_the_NHS It would be nice if that was so. But I don't believe that it would work that way.
As of March 2023, the Citroën Ami has not been crash tested by Euro NCAP. The Ami is a quadricycle, not a car, and therefore it does not have to meet the increasingly rigorous safety standards that new cars have to pass. Even a minor impact and the occupants would be dead.
That's correct, I researched all of this before buying as only use on the seafront for 4 miles each way but yes any impact would be very bad. The frame has notches to bend inwards to absorb energy but anything real speed would be awful! Cheers
Yes it is widely known that it isn’t a car yet people do keep referring to it as one. It’s misleading. It is as you say a quad. However unlike a motorcycle it’s only going to get to moped speeds, presents a bigger profile and has 4 wheels so has more grip so fatalities are unlikely. You cannot fall off an Ami! Many people survive motorcycle accidents.
I choose a car to give me survival in an impact so this would scare me. However, i ride motorcycles too and no chance of surviving a car hit. I do notice larger Citroens do seem to be built a lot better.
@@craigyllyn For 8k you can buy yourself a decent older car or maybe get a great deal on an Renault Zoe or something like that. Like a real, Crash tested car and not a cheap electric Quad with a plastic housing. Even that it flips in corners isn't that great. Quads do that too, but with them you can also ride a little of road and they aren't meant for high cornering speeds.
@@jensharbers6702 we essentially agree. Personally I prefer a bike to a quad. Also I would get a car instead but they exist and I applaud the decision to make them as they have their place. Low speed urban mobility especially in inclement weather when a bike can be miserable , I think. If we all wanted to be the same the world would be very boring.
I really love the concept of the Citroen AMI but looking at all those faults I'd rather walk
That made me laugh ! 😂😂😂 Thanks for that! Walking is even cheaper !
@@anthonytube They say a second class drive is better than a first class walk, but having seen that car I'm not so sure.
@@TheGramophoneGirl Great saying!! haha :-)
You'd probably get further walking anyway. What a monstrosity.
If you can get your money back I would definitely buy something else. The defects that you see now are very annoying, but if you are like me then they would bother me much more over time. It is better to get something that you are happy with as soon as possible so that you can put all of this behind you. Thank you for making this video to let others know what to expect if they are looking at one of these vehicles.
Thank you for your advice, it is much appreciated. Best wishes Anthony
By the way you can change the direction of the super sprayers in all cars. You need a small pin and you can movie it around using it.
Definitely ask for a replacement! That suspension looks like it would work better as a bear trap
If you are not happy with the quality tell them to take it back. There is no point stressing yourself out over other peoples failures to do a good job. Life is to short for that.
I agree! Thank you! All calm was just disappointed!! Best wishes Anthony
"Life is to short for that." It's also too short. Glad to see that Anthony rejected the car - that was disgraceful.
@@AHoundOnAHonda life is much too short ! Cheers
@@anthonytube I couldn't believe my eyes, Anthony. 😲 Onwards and upwards, eh!
@@AHoundOnAHonda Absolutely mate! All the best to you 😃
What an absolute shocker. I'd reject it and take the money back. I'm never buying anything from PSA after seeing that.
there should be no issues with panel alignment as they came properly sized out of production line. Unless it had an accident or something and things got deformed. Worth looking into it.
Well it's a fookin french car mate. It's a Citroen, you get what you pay for. It shouldn't be a surprise
It's absolutely disgusting...reject it again immediately... you need to inspect it before you take delivery.. I think I will just stick with my smart car as I was seriously thinking of one as my smart is 17 years old now, and it's been brilliant ... I'm pleased I've seen this, and im not surprised you're gutted 🤔
Thank you so much! I was so annoyed upon seeing it and dealer asked me what I wanted to do. I said I'd drive home and see but literally from the moment I jumped in I was gutted! I just liked the idea of the Ami, the concept and being so cheap to run... However it's been a troubling experience and hate people even the dealer saying 'You need to manage expectation' but being budget and being poorly built are two very different things! Best wishes Carl :-)
No comparison to a Smart car.. This is a Sh*t car Citroen OMG what a joke sorry lads you let the side down on this one!
@yawroc .. It was the price that was appealing to me for the Ami as my Smart 450 at the time in 2005 cost me around 7k new which was easy doable at the time ... but the new smarts now are a lot of money ridiculous really as my wages haven't really went up much in comparison ... I think I may just keep it running and it might see me out 🤞
After watching your channel I have decided to cancel my order for an Ami.I was so impressed with concept and was one of the people who showed interest in bringing the Ami to the UK!.I have been sitting on the fence to order one,but took the plunge a couple of months ago,but after videos like yours has made me rethink!.🙏🏼
I’m so sorry! I also wanted Ami to come and put deposit down in early 2021 then cancelled it once learned the price had gone up £2000. I then saw one in Milan and ordered again. I loved the concept and l love driving the Ami despite the flaws of mine. However quality seems worse on the latest versions so glad to have mine back despite it leaking in the rain! To be honest I’d give it a miss for now. Maybe pick up a 2021/22 model in a year or so as lots will get handed back then. Very best wishes Anthony 😊
@@anthonytube Anthony,with regards to the £2000 increase,it seems to be that from what I hear it was never going to be £6000,it was an estimate price,gauged on the euro pricing.When it was announced it was going to be available in the UK at £8000,I instantly changed my mind,but decided to go for one later after seeing loads of reviews.I will not be changing my mind again,I will look at alternatives.I hope you get a resolution that you deserve.All the very best.Phil
Thanks mate! Yes I think it was based on the Euro pricing that started then in 2020 at €5500 - €6000 so when they said £7600 basic I thought it was a bit much... Although a lot has changed post Brexit/Covid. Very best wishes Ant
@@anthonytube Anthony,a lot has changed indeed.👍🏼
I'm starting to understand why Citroen is not keen on introducing it to new markets...
Not Keen!! If that was me in charge of Citroen I think I'd be well embarrassed
Isn’t an ami just made for short distances in a city? Btw I don’t know how this person uses his ami
That’s a “sans permis” (without license) car here in France. You only drive one when they taken your license away for your 5th DUI.
Wow I am shocked by the quality of the frame/ crash structure of the car I have built stronger go carts in my garage I am truly shocked at how cheap that has been put together
It's your fault, guy. If you buy rubbish you get rubbish...
Get back down the dealer ASAP, give them a decent ultimatum that's weighted in YOUR favour, see what they say. This is a brand new £8000 piece of equipment which is clearly exhibiting a number of design issues, and build quality issues. Get it off your chest soon, otherwise it will drive you wild.
I was really into these, but your video has given me the 'willies' and actually scared me off - I couldn't bear the hassle.
Your video and dissatisfaction wasn't in vain my friend, you've saved me a lot of sleepless nights.
Thank you so much for the advice! I've been on the phone with Ami who agree it's unacceptable. So that's a good start. Very best wishes Anthony :-)
Yes. Have been following Ami as a future cheap run around but will now avoid them.
The dealer has nothing to do with the sale. You can stamp your feet all your want but the dealer have no responsibility under consumer law.
@@byteme9718 What a load of nonsense (what "consumer law" are you referring to?!) - you need to have a read of the 'Sale of Goods Acts 1979'. The dealer is 100% responsible for the quality and fitness for purpose, of the goods they are selling. This chap has the right to demand everything is dealt with and fixed, at the dealer's expense.
@@RockLobster223 Which makes the seller liable as the contract is between them and the buyer.
The dealers don't sell the Ami, they're forced by Citroen UK to display them and to direct buyers to them. They're not involved in the sale and are not responsible under any consumer legislation.
This is an odd situation and I'm sure one the dealers welcome because the alternative would be for Citroen to force the dealer to buy from them and then retail. None I know of want anything to do with these at any level, especially not as retailers where the usual consumer legislation applies.
Thanks for sharing Anthony and condolences on the disappointment. Having grown-up in the car business it looks like what I've seen when manufacturers up production and cut costs to maximize profit margins. And dealers aren't concerned for customer satisfaction.
Some of the issues like the badge, wiper and light bracket could be resolved easily, but other fitment issues with the doors and body panels are related to major frame or assembly misalignment, they may not be resolvable, however, I wonder if the front body panels might be missing some structure? As for the rust, personally, with with any AMI, I'd be inclined to personally clean the surfaces of rust, treat them with rust inhibiting paint and coat the frame and metal parts with rubberized undercoating.
I might suggest rejecting it for defects within your grace period (in the U.S. it's three days). I've rejected new vehicles from Ford, GM and MB for major defects I discovered after delivery.
in the case of the Ford SUV, the wrong transmission and cooling system were installed over what I ordered and were on the build sheet, and other defects such as missing sun-roof seals, Seat-belt latches that would not release and trapped me and a front seat passenger. requiring cutting of the passenger belt to get her out. Rather than buy the car back, Ford had a special rep to deal with such issues, and eventually I negotiated with Ford who refunded $12,000, installed the heavy duty cooling system it was supposed to have, fixed the other issues (except the wrong transmission) and I accepted the car.
Perhaps Citroen at the factory level might do something such as fixing the issues and offer financial compensation (basically give up their profit), and that might save you from having to wait months and risk the same later.
You likely have some leverage with your channel and presenting this comment to Citroen as a suggestion from a viewer that would benefit you, Citroen and help to promote rather than reflect negatively on the product might help to convince Citroen you have concern for the brand and are not out to take advantage.
Thank you so much for taking the time to offer your advice! I really appreciate it! So right now it’s a case of third time lucky then if no better I’ll ask for my money back! Thanks again and best wishes! Anthony :-)
@@anthonytube Given what I saw in your second video about the roof frame irregularities and door fit, that would be my course of action.
The panel fitment problems will probably be the same with any new model you might get. This kind of plastic, the same kind as is used in port-a-potties, is by it's nature not a precision product. Fitment is a lot like plastics on 70's and 80's cars. Door alignment is probably something that can be easily fixed, as are the other little problems.
The rusting welds are not good, but can definitely be protected and that's something he should do regardless. All in all, it must suck to get a worse version of a car he's purchased, but on the other hand, the price is extremely competitive so at least the fitment issues just come with the territory.
@@Oldsmobile69 I've become friends with Tim in France who has the 'Me and Mon Ami' channel (th-cam.com/video/-LkGuyJAw2E/w-d-xo.html ), and bought an early Ami, and he's done some video about the fit of his Ami, and from what I can glean from his videos, Anthony's Ami seems pretty inferior to Tim's in terms of body panel rigidity and fit, and overall quality, and seems quite happy with it.
I wonder if Anthony might have been shipped a second 'Friday Special' as a replacement? I had GM do that once with a Trans-Am I bought back in the 80's that was assembled by some of the first robot spot welders and after 5,000 miles, the spot welds, uni-body frame and panels were literally coming apart. The replacement vehicle (a year newer model) the provided was a customer return that had an engine along with other issues, had the wrong sized main-bearings that seized in 500miles. The car had so many issues that was so costly to repair, GM refused and said "Take us to Court, it will be cheaper than dealing with you and this POS Vehicle"
@@jackoneil3933 It's probably a fairly low tech factory with very poor worker skill levels and lots of pressure to pump these out as fast as possible to meet demand.
I can't help thinking the sales in Europe will tank once someone does a real crash test on Amis and figures out how dangerous it is in a crash.
Sad, since I really, really like the look of this car.
When I see this, I am very happy with my 18 year old car.
Yes older cars built Better!! ❤
I have a 17 year old Smart ForFour. Not known for stellar build quality, but it seems pretty near perfect compared to this. The plastic panels seem to be made out of the same material used for margarine tubs, and compared to your videos of your previous car, the panels do seem to be thinner. Shocker, car manufacturer saves on material. A dismally assembled vehicle. Return and find a decent i-Miev.
@@philpaxton2078 Thank you so much! :-) Advice taken! :-)
I thought my Microcar (Ligier) was bad for the money, but this is really not acceptable, absolutely right you return this!
8 grand ?? I thought these were 3 grand and advertised as that as I was interested when I first seen them
Got my attention also! I think it was €5.5k in France then prices up up to £7600 in the UK or about €8k without any colour pack (extra £400) Thanks
You’ll have to reject it again. Citroen must have fired their entire quality assurance team
That rust may not be an issue in the south of France but in the UK it won’t last 5 minutes
I love the Amie, but not way I’m buying one
I did just that! Yes there was even a check list in the little folder but just discovered the screen was bottle has a little layer of concentrate but no water... The jets don't even hit the screen! My old Ami was rust free as I treated it so this one has been sitting around as going rusty already! I think they already have a yard full of problem Ami's and just create passable ones. Certainly QC is poor at best well on this one for sure! Best wishes Anthony :-)
We did look at the Ami but after watching this you make a great car sales executive showing us all the fine points🤔 and I think we will give Ami a miss
I really enjoy driving my Ami and at this point want my old one back! Even if it does leak! I would check everything 100% before taking the plunge! Best wishes Anthony:-)
I was considering one, if it ever gets to Ireland. I don't think I'll bother now. There are many positive videos and reports out there about the Ami but my feeling is that Stelantis/Citroën have made cost cuts on the newer builds of this little quadricycle. Shame on them.
I think you are right... I saw differences in quality and finish not taking into account all the flaws already present in the Ami! Crazy I thought it was already available as in the North now. However it's just not ideal on Irish roads or say around Antrim as too many hills and drivers would get mad! It's a shame as they are taking their eye of the ball in the name of volume and profit! Best wishes over to you! ✌️
Note to self - Don't buy a Citroen Ami.
Optimization: remove the ami.
How is this "thing" even allowed on the road?
i cannot believe you actually bought this in the first place - what were you thinking
That will be the problem if this goes to court. The buyer almost certainly had the opportunity to inspect a similar vehicle and still chose to buy a piece of crap. He got a piece of crap so where's the issue other than small details about how one piece if crap compares to another piece of crap.
Should have gone to Airfix, they have a good track record for plastic kits!
All this points to is they are making a loss on Ami sales and they are seriously cutting corners on labour and parts. It’s so obvious that as little time as possible is going into them, be it repairs or builds.
Doug’s shed broke the top suspension mount on his Ami - it just came away from the bonding. He also tightened everything up himself and applied a wax coating to the inner parts of all the frame. Things you just shouldn’t be doing with a brand name. As someone said ages ago, he would rather buy a Nissan leaf 1st generation for half the price, because it’s a *car* and not a quadricycle with proper NCAP testing and airbags.
Anyway, this is the future of the EV industry. It either makes it or fails miserably. One autocar report suggested that an EV at 4 years has only a 51% return , whereas a petrol as approx 62% and a diesel slightly less. Because of battery diminishing
You are so right! I live ICE cars but just loved the cheeky Ami and my little daughter Ava loves it also… like Doug I rust treated frame but you’re right you shouldn’t have to do this! Either they are cutting corners due to slow sales or increased demand who knows but one thing for sure is the QC folks are sleeping on the job! You can buy a lot of car for £8-£9k! What will happen (and I hope it never does) is someone will get badly hurt in one and Citroen will be in real trouble. Imagine the struct coming away at 28 mph? No ABS, no traction control, no airbags? I knew all this but the more I think of it maybe I was silly buying one ! Best wishes Anthony 😊
I'm fairly sure a big rc car would be built better and probably has more features
I am glad that I paid a little bit extra and got myself a dacia spring. I can really recommend this car!
I just don’t think it’s available yet in the UK? Great little car !
@@anthonytube Yes i just googled it. I took it for granted that you could buy the spring. But i saw that it wont be available in the UK before summer 2024. I bought mine in Germany in 2021. At least you will get the new, improved version with some extra features when it launches in the UK :)
Good Lord, this is abbysmall. Were the Citroen QC department out for lunch when this thing came through? and for 8000 bloody pounds? surely a halfway decent e-bike or moped would be better? This honestly looks like one of those shady aliexpress cars that violate a dozen safety regulations, crazy.
I was looking into one of these when they were first announced, and by the looks of things you've saved me a very expensive and wasteful credit agreement! _Merci beaucoup!_ 💳💸👍
I'll start off in saying when I first looked at it, that £8,000.- price was (iirc) the basic OTR spec in the UK. The equivalent spec in France was €5,000.- OTR at the same time - So £3,556.- of the UK price was a Brexit💩 „Benefit“ and nothing else - And for elegible French citizens there was also a 20% EV grant on offer. Even without the grant I was intending to save a lot of time, hassle & money by ordering through a French dealership, and using some of the savings to buy a Eurostar ticket. 🚄💰👍
Understandably, Citroën had *floods* of orders for the Ami under these conditions and would've been under a lot of pressure to fulfil them, and might also have been forced to shoulder some of the burden of the EV grant scheme. Under these conditions they'll have been slapping the Ami's together as quickly as they possibly could, reducing fabrication times as much as possible (Hence the flimsier parts) and as all Ami's look alike they'll have been sending the C-grade stuff to „Poundland“ as UK consumer rights over poor product quality are a lot less than for any EU citizen. 🛂🇪🇺📜
My plan to buy an Ami derailed when I found out my landlord would veto any attempt I made to install charging equipment (We have a communal parking area) so I never went ahead, but by the look of things - When it comes to electric vehicles from France - I'd be much better off sticking with my long-preferred EV manufacturer: Alstom. 🚄🇫🇷❤🔥⚡💨😇
#ViveLeTGV! 🚄🇫🇷❤🔥
I didn't realise they were so much cheaper in France! That'll explain why it's built like a £3.5k RRP vehicle, not an £8k RRP vehicle. They're just demonstrating pure greed in the UK market, as there's no way it should cost more than double here & they haven't even tried to make improvements to justify the price increase... 🤷🏽♂️
That’s a great idea and would be assembled with more care! You can remove front and rear very easily just open frame and some wiring etc. best wishes Anthony
Doesn't matter how much it costs, $1 - $100.000 it was bought new an needs to be perfect. Don't settle for less or you will regret it
Comes in the category of "should have been strangled at birth".
I made a rule post 2002 or so after owing a dozen or so Citroens and Peugeots. NEVER buy another French car. That rule has served me well since.
Under the sale of goods act, it should be of merchantable quality, the defects you have identified in the film, in my opinion, do not meet that criteria. The fact that this is an inexpensive car that has been built to a budget does not mean that it should exhibit the problems shown.
Looks like it is sloppy build quality and I am sure that removing the panels & re-fitting these would resolve the problems, which should be done by Citroen or their dealer, these do seem to be unduly flexible, like it is missing stiffeners. Doors must have some sort of adjustment to get these to fit correctly, again, that is something that they should do.
I think you should again raise this with Citroen, it is brand-new and they should not have delivered something that is sub-standard, how very frustrating, go back to them for another replacement, could be third time lucky!
Thank you so much and I agree with you 100%! I have been on with Ami and a 3rd replacement is going to arrive as soon as possible as waited months for this one. The quality is so poor on this version and everything just flexes around. There's even a slight hump on the p/side floor. I think the issues are more apparent as I've owned one for the last 6 months. Thanks again and appreciate your advice! :-) Best wishes Anthony :-)
100% reject!!!!! Appalling quality. I don't care what people say, £8,0000 IS NOT cheap, that's a lot of money. Just take it back Anthony ASAP
You are so so right!! Yes I got straight on the phone and I've rejected 100%. Best wishes Anthony 😊
@@anthonytube Excellent! If you original Ami is still at the dealer, would be interesting to see if you can do a side by side comparison with it re panel thickness etc
@@jmiller991 Definitely! They moved it to their compound so would be tricky on site I think... Probably fed up with me! They earn about £250 handing it over so don't want to waste too much time!
Sorry £8000 is very cheap for a new anything. Harrods was selling a miniature electric/pedal powered Range Rover for the kids at £16,000. That was probably better made than this though.
I know for sure microcars like Microcar, Aixam, Ligier and Chatenet have far better build quality.
I’m sure you are right! Best wishes Anthony
Not sure whether to call it a nice plant pot or a rubbish car. I cannot understand why they would let that thing leave the factory. Hope you get it sorted out.
The panels moving i dont know but the rest.... Wtf Citroen is this true?
That is unbelievable - wouldn't even use it for a door stop! It looks like someone has made it in a shed for a 'practical joke'. 😅
This really makes the Ami out to be something in between the Mitsubishi iMEV and any one of those Chinese literally adapted golf carts that are really practical in many Chinese villages, but people fail to appreciate that.
Actually the Ami could probably do well in that market.
Think it came from Ncap test station 😂
Put together by Hammond, Clarkson and May. Its the Ami Hammerhead eagle i-thrust.
We used to have a C4 Grand Picasso and at 4 years old it suffered failed ABS, intermittent check engine lamp / limp home, loose exterior trim and is the only car I've ever owned that unscrewed it's own injectors. We dubbed it the Shitroën. Ditched it, bought a Skoda and never looked back.
A shame because I thought it'd be a great little car, to see the build quality is so terrible has made me rethink it.
Probably will go for a second hand twizy or something
If I did it again I’d go Twizy for sure despite being less practical. Cheers! Anthony
It’s a great little car
@@MeandMonAmi It's a great concept and great fun to drive however the quality is very inconsistent and sadly maybe not suited to UK weather either. As I said from the start I love the Ami and enjoy driving it but after waiting 5 months for replacement (my Ami leaks and has limited clearance on rear) the replacement was much worse in terms of finish. I'm a fan of the Ami, own cars, love cars but sadly the last car shows very poor quality control. Made worse by the awful service. Best wishes Anthony
So there's a few things to consider here. Firstly, expectations. Your expectations are clearly high, if you'd ever bought a brand new car before you'd know they are never 'perfect'. Even bentleys can be rejected on quality grounds. If you're fussy and you look hard enough you'll find a problem anywhere. The Ami is a I have car in many ways, it offers relatively cheap motoring transport for two people. But there are trade offs with a cheap car built deliberately lightly for reasons of performance. I honestly think that there are better Ami's than yours and also worse. Basically, if you want a premium experience then move up market, maybe japanese? But I'm guessing you bought it because it's cheap, there's a reason for that!
I totally agree
Did you keep the box and the packaging?
This is what you call a throw away car
As a german I think french built good trains but cannot build cars
Funny Italians snd the Czechs also make good trains!
Should have gone to specsavers!
5:35 omg how this is even possible .....i cant believe this comes from citroen
Man I am relly sorry to see this rip-off "Ami", it looks like is not a car(build whise), toy cars are build more sturdy than this.... Go for a Dacia if avelaible in your region or Renault if the budget cannot go over 8000. Good luck returning it, and take care! Cheers
Would not be accepting that, the quality is awful. It looks like poor materials choice and engineering tolerances. Mention your going to Trading Standards to the dealer if they won't help. It usually gets things done. If your still having issues and its a main dealer write to the CEO.
I rejected and left with dealer and Citroen to be fair apologised so let's see what happens! :-)
WoW my first car was a 1956 Morris Minor and it woud leave that Citroen for dead in finish way back then. I would get back to Citroen and demand a car with a good finish, with No faults. Good Luck, and Grettings from Oz 👍
Thank you! Yes I rejected and have my old one back for now! Very best wishes down to you! :-)
I still love these despite these faults
It looks like it cost about £2000 in parts and labour. Shockingly bad
Never buy an Ami.
There is zero crash protection to save you from being hit by anything and they're massively overpriced quadracycles.
Better to spend £8k on a 3 year old electric MG/ Nissan Leaf.
A 24mph car is a stupid idea let alone a heap of dog waste like this. You can biy a decent 2cv for £8k and it will be tax free and apreciate in value and be a lot of fun or just buy a bike.
Buying that shoebox is embarrassing enough, having that be the final product somehow makes it even worse lmao.
Well, it appears to be usual citreon quality.
The lack of substance underneath suggests this Sinclair C5 masquerading as a car would not be a good place to be in a crash. Seems also recent good Citroen anti corrosion performance has stepped back to rival 1970s cars which did well to last 5 years. This thing seems to be an exercise in unsustainability for both itself and its hapless occupants. Do buyers not have a chance to look at the car in a showroom before deciding to order?
You bought a french car and expected qualit?
Funny thing they allow this to be driven in eu, while Japanese kei cars are still banned
Ask your money back !
I have seen other videos of customers complaining about many issues with this car.
I am so sorry for you because I am French, and it's a french brand.
Bro I don't get why you even bought this overpriced toy car to begin with. Send it back, you deserve a real car.
It's like one of those kids cars they push with their feet 😂
Looks like something you can buy from alibabba for a grand
If this was a toy car I would still take it back, the quality is shocking.
You get what you paid for. Would be stupid to complain that there is no tablecloth at McDonald's even if it is called a restaurant
It’s interesting this view and maybe you didn’t watch other videos? This was to show that the replacement was worse quality than the original. If this was my 1st one and didn’t wait months maybe you would have a point.
@@anthonytube definitely gonna watch the other videos, thanks for making it! Good stuff
@@zmoguspaslaptis Very kind 🙏
>buy a citroen
>complain it's french quality
what
You keep that thing clamped up? If not, then you should, a small gust of wind could send it flying away 😂!
That's like a school project car - a basic frame with a plastic chassis dropped on top
This is what £8000 gets you in 2023? Wow, what a mess.
Nice volvo 480 in the background, are you going to show it anytime soon? :D
This is my 7th 480! It’s an ES with 22k from new! It’s beautiful and I have a 480 turbo that needs tlc after 20 years on the driveway!! Sure I’ll do a little video! Best wishes Anthony 😊
You should have bought a 1964 Honda cub, more reliable and great fun to ride
Glad I watched your video before purchasing a cute Citroën Ami. This is utterly shameful manufacturing quality and makes me feel sad.
Does Citroëm quality control check the vehicles by tapping a white cane around them?
You seem like a nice guy.... but this serves you right. You encouraged them that building and selling this was a good idea. I hope you have learned your lesson.
I am a nice guy but definitely didn’t encourage anything. I just wanted cheap, clean transport. Sadly Citroen didn’t care about quality consistency and service slow and difficult so yes lesson learned!! 😊
It´s sad but i think this is the class of the car - to get a prestige one is like a lottery game
a real death trap! reject it and take your money back!
Why would anyone buy that? 8k, thrown together, 45 mile range and 29 mph top speed!!! More like the old fashioned invalid carriage.
Coming from an engineering/automotive background, I can't even believe what I'm seeing in this video. It makes the Top Gear Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust look like an engineering marvel.
Worst of all there's a child seat in there....
Only use in village on private roads and have removed seat now. Thanks
Sad to say having seen the pictures of these cars when they were originally available, I just knew I couldn't even be seen in one, let alone buy one! But, each to his own. However, just had a look and there's a lovely 1965 Ami for sale in West Yorkshire for £5k. Eco friendly 602cc engine and no road tax. Which would you choose??😇
Point taken! 😊
dont worry about the rust, the citroen will be in the bin years before it starts to worry
Looks like a lovely mode of transport.
Shocking. And you didn't mention that it's in primer, has not even been painted! It really doesn't look like it's made by a major first world car manufacturer. I'm surprised they want to be associated with it, but looking at the badge on yours it would seem they intend it to become anonymous soon after sale. For taht price you could get a gorgeous secondhand proper car with an engine.
MONSTROSITY! THANKS FOR THIS REVIEW..HORROR.. AND I AM SORRY IT HAPPENED TO YOU.!
Thanks! :-)
I really believe the only reason it' so expensive is because it has basically 0 competition. Their profit margins must be ridiculously high
The Citroën Ami is built in Marocco obviously with little to no automation as far as the welding is concerned, I would suspect.
Therefore I suspect huge differences subsequently occure from car to car resulting in unavoidable lack of accuracy and therefore rattling all over the place that you observe.
The price compared to the quality you get I would say is not justified.
If it were cheaper, one would be more motivated to overlook the shortcomings.
To my opinion the best would be to return the Ami and would try to get a Wuling Mini EV for about the same money which is in the same category.
An 8000 pound car? It somewhat works? That is to me amazing.