Why Was The 1984 Corvette So Slow?

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  • @Kathaar
    @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yes, I know the audio quality for the live-shots suck. I've got a better location in mind for if I do something like this again in the future.

  • @rcaive0875
    @rcaive0875 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh man...40 years have now passed and the TV commercial jingle is still fresh in my memory..."You've never seen...anything...like this before". 🤣

  • @silversurfer420
    @silversurfer420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As an 84 owner, I see this as an absolute win.
    Jokes aside, this is a very well put together video. Great work! Can't wait to see where that car and this channel takes you!

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm really excited!

    • @Beegees75
      @Beegees75 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I Love my 1984 Corvette. I use to own a 1998 Corvette convertible and that car sucked

  • @mikkokuorttinen3113
    @mikkokuorttinen3113 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the facts about behind the crossfire injection and the low rpm torque trend! We can see how the stage of low rpm torque of sbc was set by the crossfire design. It then continued with mild improvements for the next years with the TPI-design used on Corvettes, Camaros and Firebirds.

  • @AtariLegend
    @AtariLegend 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What an incredible, well researched, little documentary. I loved every bit of it. This is in a class of its own. Please make more ❤ ;)

  • @varmastiko2908
    @varmastiko2908 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Comparing to the older generations we need to remember that before 1971 US manufacturers all quoted SAE gross horsepower. Compared to later SAE net / DIN standards the old numbers were inflated by up to 30%.
    So yes, the '84 Corvette was hampered by emission regulations and other things, but the power difference to the older generation was far less than most people realize.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting! Thanks for adding that!

  • @gogglez61
    @gogglez61 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just bought an 84 with 218k miles. Sure the cfi could use adjusting and there are a few other small things, but considering I paid $2500 and it got me 6 hours home without any issues, I consider it a complete win!

  • @nikkoalpha2
    @nikkoalpha2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a current owner of a '96 Corvette, I can attest that most haters never drove or owned a C4. Owned a '66, '87, 2 other '96's, 2000, 2 2002's (Own 1 now), and a 2009 that the C4's visceral go kart driving experience is unique. Not the fastest but still very fast. Handling is amazing too. Easy to service and repair in most instances. Just get a Factory Service Manual, join some forums, and watch videos. Best entry level Corvette generation value. Just do your research before buying one. Enjoy the drive.

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't want to knock lt4 and zr1's, especially. Actually zr1's do have a knock. I'd rather have a c6 base. They want about the same money. I'm talking about c4's. I'm sure the lt4 and zr1 and even the base(late models more so like '96) are fun to drive. It's just those 300hp bases can (late models) possibly get beat up on by a modern v6(camaro) or turbo four cylinder (mustang). I guess for a 15 thousand dollar car they're fun?

    • @tdog6437
      @tdog6437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad someone has actually taken the time to explain the real reason the crossfire injection was only around for two years, it wasn't given the respect it deserved because of what came after it. JS

  • @AtariLegend
    @AtariLegend 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Had to watch it again. Amazing video ❤

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're too kind! Thank you!

  • @17ellevehc
    @17ellevehc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really good video. Enjoyed it a lot. Subbed. Can tell a lot of time went into it.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @cheekyjebus5559
    @cheekyjebus5559 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the video I didn't know I needed as a break from the runescape feed, thank you, very well made

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank ye kindly!

  • @vikingtrad3r
    @vikingtrad3r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as a c4 enthusiast, i appreciate the video, it was well done. learned about some 84 specific lore. just picked one up and slowly bringing it back with my kid. subbed for the c4 content

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome!! You should definitely join some corvette enthusiasts communities like the corvette discord, you'll find tons of resources for the rebuild

  • @boomn216
    @boomn216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have that same model and color but with Red interior.

  • @whoeveriam0iam14222
    @whoeveriam0iam14222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suddenly an extra car channel in my subscription list

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can never have too many!

  • @anthonygray333
    @anthonygray333 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love my ancient 84 stick shift. Paid $3k for it about 6 years ago and it’s worked just fine. It won’t outrun my 66 GTO, but heck it won’t outrun just about anything…but it’s a cool ride nonetheless.

  • @nyernga
    @nyernga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Car looks great. I've owned 6 corvettes in my life and loved my 88 C4. Had a C6 and C7 in the the late 2000's and currently have a mint 2000 C5 with a six speed that I love. I agree with granddad...those C4's were hell to get in and out of

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm only 30 and it's already a chore to get in and out!

  • @jasonkepic1132
    @jasonkepic1132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved your video 😎
    There's something magical about owning a C4 isn't there? I have a 93 and i absolutely love it. Always wanted one but my real appreciation for it took me by surprise owning it for a minute. I can tell you feel the same. You're good at this. Keep it up!!

  • @CorkVanDenHandel
    @CorkVanDenHandel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done! That was one of the more interesting Corvette review videos I've watched, and I'm not even a big C4 fan. The Crossfire engine history was new to me, your selection of historic sequences included work very well, and your summary at the end almost made me want a 1984 as I value handling over power. But I'll stick with my 2003 M6 instead, I think.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked it

  • @mb4773
    @mb4773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enjoyed your video, and also I had an ‘84 back in the day. A few clarifications: you are comparing net vs gross hp ratings. An 84 205 bhp would have been probably 260-275 gross when compared to pre ‘71 ratings. Believe me, at 6.7 0-60 and 15.3 1/4, this was much quicker than most small block corvettes of the 60s and 70s, the top FI and LT1 cars notwithstanding. Lastly, keep in mind that when TPI was introduced for ‘85, it sacrificed high rpm power for high low rpm torque (330 lbs/ft) to catapult the cars, particularly autos, to 0-60 about a second faster.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah yeah good point

  • @davidryan573
    @davidryan573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome story both of them, keep driving Great Grandpa’s Vet, people like you are going to keep the Car Hobby alive, thanks.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I intend to keep this car indefinitely!

  • @colejames7236
    @colejames7236 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought an 84 kind of on a whim, I paid way too much for it, and I can't sell it for what I have in it. However, every part I replace, everything I fix, I relized these things have a ton of potential and I like it more and more every time I drive it. Other than for the awful battery drain and the constant coolant battles. 😂

  • @speedfiend925
    @speedfiend925 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a new appreciation for the 84 C4 after this video. 😁

  • @prideslayer77
    @prideslayer77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I quite enjoyed this video and I am not a car guy. Great vid man

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just like i enjoy your fights and am not an mma guy!
      Thank ye!

    • @prideslayer77
      @prideslayer77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kathaar it actually was a solid bio tbh lol. I could legit get behind a series even if it was random shit lol. Even the b roll you selected was solid!

  • @johnrossi6212
    @johnrossi6212 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video.
    Love how you explained how the cross fire didn’t work well.
    I just know to stay away lol
    I live C4s ❤❤❤

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're certainly an acquired taste

  • @nyernga
    @nyernga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Should have simply told california to GFY

  • @Volkswagenplanet
    @Volkswagenplanet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you look good like the C4 , you dont need to go fast. The C4 wants to be seen. I have a 88 red convertible. Miles of smiles. Drop the top and enjoy the fFlorida sun. Win , Win for me.

  • @slow84vette
    @slow84vette 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an 84 owner myself I can say that despite the crossfire injection system this car is awesome. Would I like some more power? Yeah I’m not gonna lie. But for what it is this car is incredible and handles insanely well. This car has so many quirks that give it character and I’ll never get rid of it. I genuinely think the people who hate on C4’s have never driven them because they are great cars.

  • @transamman8299
    @transamman8299 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love my c4!

  • @Beegees75
    @Beegees75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I haven't had too many problems with my 1984 Corvette. I've owned it for 9 years now besides replacing One headlight motor, I had to change the fuel pump and replace the digital dash.. that's about it.

  • @socksonfeet8125
    @socksonfeet8125 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you make a video on the stiff suspension alone? I had a Pontiac Solstice and the stiff suspension on that grew to be too much for me and my back. Getting old and lower spine issues start to become a real thing. I really want a c4 and the only cheap ones seem to be 1984's and I keep seeing people bring up the stiff suspension issues. I still have my 04 GTO and people say that that car also have stiff suspension but I don't think so. At least not compared to the Solstice. If there's a way you can show how stiff the suspension is, maybe drive around with a cup of water on the dash so we can see how harsh the bumps are or maybe some other idea to see it visually.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I may do a video on that in the future if I can work out the logistics. In the meantime, the best way I can explain the stiff suspension of the Vette is like this:
      in an '84 Vette you don't just feel every rock and pebble on the road, you feel every rock and pebble that USED to be there, too.

    • @socksonfeet8125
      @socksonfeet8125 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kathaar oof that sound painful lol 😆😆, thank you though thats a pretty good description. It sounds like the Solstice may have been softer lol.

  • @DarkRequiemFilms
    @DarkRequiemFilms 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice flex. 👍🏻

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Damn, my true intentions have been found!

  • @777PFP
    @777PFP หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love mine

  • @chrish5503
    @chrish5503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One answer to this: Cease-Fire Injection.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      -sniff- smells like vette envy

  • @javierjimenez3627
    @javierjimenez3627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How people want us to watch tv if we have this kind of content in TH-cam

  • @cxv6367
    @cxv6367 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still looks great in 2024

  • @lorriebuxton2041
    @lorriebuxton2041 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also own an 84 Corvette traded plow truck I didn't want for barely drivable Vette I am a retired gm service tech worked on these when new great car three years getting back to good driving condition doing steering rack next worn internally mine will do 124 mph stock has good pulling torque off the line fades over 80 mph amazing how it goes around corners

    • @buzzwaldron6195
      @buzzwaldron6195 หลายเดือนก่อน

      124 sounds about 10-15 MPH low...

  • @benvan-ness1030
    @benvan-ness1030 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the first video I've seen of yours I am thinking about buying a Corvette but I was afraid of going back into the 80s even though I am a love 80s vehicles with the Corvette because I was running around 300 horsepower I'm looking around a 94 to 95 maybe 96

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're gonna be dealing with 40 year old tech, and more annoyingly, 40 year old plastic pieces, BUT that's a small price to pay. The C4s are still relatively cheap, so I'd say go for it.
      94-95 is a good year, an extra 10 years of added quality of life improvements to the car, and definitely more horsepower than the 84.
      In the end, up to you, but I'd say go for it!

    • @ObscureStuff420
      @ObscureStuff420 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a 95 and I've owned an 86. The 95 is much more refined. Has much more HP, and has the ASR traction control system. Big difference is that the interior is a cockpit design rather than the 80s digital dash. I prefer the 95, but the digital dash was definitely cool

  • @ryanswan39
    @ryanswan39 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dude i also love osrs ironman and have an 84 corvette lol did we just become best freinds

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Holy crap there IS someone with an interest in both! =D

  • @jamalanderson5342
    @jamalanderson5342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Corvette = yes :)

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      corvette is always the right answer.

  • @innerlightfilms
    @innerlightfilms 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 84 styling was way ahead of its time. Most C4 corvettes were trashed by low IQ people who could afford them. They got a bad reputation because of that. Any C4 with money dumped into it looks as good as any modern-day sports car.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hell even just bone stock, c4s look great

  • @clemnewton9007
    @clemnewton9007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is a Corvette tht is enough said

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can never say too much about a corvette.

  • @SolomonTroupe
    @SolomonTroupe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nerd

  • @VladimirPutin-cz5zy
    @VladimirPutin-cz5zy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn't call them slow. But slow for a corvette.

  • @CallforthePriest
    @CallforthePriest 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    84 owner here! Loved this video!!!! More vids of your car please! :)

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope to do more as soon as time allows! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @MrSrScott
    @MrSrScott 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your wheels are on backwards.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wat?

    • @scottraymondsr3241
      @scottraymondsr3241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Finns on your Vette are facing backwards that are supposed to face forward! Just Google C4 Corvette wheels diagram and you'll see what I mean. 👍

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sweet mother of Mercy...
      ...they are.

    • @scottraymondsr3241
      @scottraymondsr3241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Kathaar Happens all the time on C4 Corvettes. There were quite a few wheel designs on the C4.

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@scottraymondsr3241 What's funny is... i have no idea how long they've been like that. I had a shop put on new tires a few years ago, so maybe then, but honestly, without looking at pictures from when I first got the car, it could've been that way when I got it.

  • @michaelcabral2174
    @michaelcabral2174 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You do realize that mid 70s Corvettes only have like 170 hp right never mind the fact that California had their own special version with a 305

    • @Kathaar
      @Kathaar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were actually 5 'slower' corvettes than the '84, but excluding the original straight 6 C1s, no halo vette had ever been slower than it's predecessors by such an enormous degree.
      But that doesn't make a good title.