channelofstuff that isn't necessarily the case. You get a comparable product from some other brands for half the price many times with wacoms higher end models
I hope you make more videos in the future. = D I like your style, no unboxing, no frills, just what you liked and what you disliked, very objective, especially from the point of view of an artist.
My god this is maddening. I started considering buying a cintiq about a year ago. I was about to just buy a 22HD, because they seemed like the best option even though they're way overpriced and almost 5 years old (!!!). Then I realized that these new Pro models were coming out, so I waited. And waited. Didn't want a MSP...cause I didn't want to pay 3 grand for a new tablet with specs that are significantly weaker than the PC I've already got. When the Pro 16 was finally released, they were out of stock right away and I held off buying one anyway because there were already reports of the whole USBC/Link compatibility issues. Wanted to see how the reviews went once people got a chance to use them. Now that that's happened, it's a damned disaster and tons of people say they regret buying them or are returning them. Great. So, maybe I'll just buy the 22HD after all (back where I started a year ago)....and hey look, those 5 year old devices are STILL comically overpriced at $500 MORE than the brand new ones!! What a god damn mess. Wacom's disdain for their customers couldn't be more apparent.
jabuhrer1 these problems are minimal i bet they already fix them with a driver. Some people are just too picky about the device they want like this guy. I got the 22hd 2 years ago and already have paid himself. its great tablet if you got the space. The 16 pro it's way more modern and needs less desktop space.
You also pay for like 6 inches more tablet. So the price is not that unreasonable. On the 16 inch you get 4k though, and it has 4x as many pressure-levels. So i'd definitely go with the Cintiq Pro. You gotta remember though, that the 22hd was top of the line when it was out. And from a business perspective it's best to raise the price of previous generations, to make the new gen more attractive. Although in the EU the 22hd has recently taken a 100€ price-cut. So in my area it's 1799.90€ for 22hd. And 1599.90€ for Cintiq Pro 16. If you buy them directly of the Wacom store.
So disapointed with the wacom cintiq Pro 16, it's not not even close to worth what they are charging Issues that I had: It get's really hot the fan noise is horrible I had flicker issues when the pen got close Hard to get 4k working The colors out of the box is insanly bad For 1500$ I expected to get a backrub by angels when I turned it on, instead it was constant nutkicks by tiny demons. Returned it.
Björn Hjorth they are worth if you make a living using them. If you just want to mess around with Photoshop these are not for you. Myself i dont even consider other brand 2 wacom in10 years never a fail.
can i comfortably run zbrush and substance painter on this huion drawing tablet/pc? link pls? cant find anything like the mobile pro on the huion website, they just have displays. no pc's
Teo Gonzalez I agree. I had a Cintiq 12WX previous to the purchase of my new Mobile Studio Pro, and it never gave me a single issue (except some minor issues caused by the need of driver updates from time to time) in the full decade I owned it. Quality and durability was top-notch.
Very informative. I was thinking of getting Cintiq 16 but with this many issues it makes the old Cintiq 13HD look good. This is why I like the Intuos tablets, they may be screenless but the price, the ability to go wireless and the general user friendliness make them so much more appealing than the mad expensive Cintiqs ridden with problems.
Sho kinda depends, for me I can't do the hand eye coordination because I am a fucking moron lol. But I think the wobbly lines issue is with their newer tech. Just something they have to get rid of through future updates and fixes. Heck, even Microsoft finally got rid of it(if I'm correct I can't remember, I think only the tapering got fixed) and it took them a while... Something must be fucking it up. However the 13HD is really good. Just I don't use it cause I don't wanna break it. Lol... I"m not smart at all I swear XD
4 years later and this video is still relevant. The issues are still there. Except they appear to have taken the cintiq 16 out of the market... it's real hard to get one now.
I just want to support Wacom in regards to the choice of the Nvidia Quadro GPU: as an Industrial Designer I am very glad that Wacom considered the requirements of 3d artists and designers and decided to embed a decent Quadro card in it. We want to be able to jump from 3d to 2d instantly and we want that 3d to actually spin complex surface or poly or parametric models seamlessly. I would not buy this product if it wouldn't support that. Then I'd completely loose the mobility as I'd need to go for a Cintiq and a separate workstation, as I really need that horsepower.
Can you do a "2-years later" type of a video? Something where you go through the issues you've listed and let us know if Wacom had done anything about them. I know they never acknowledged the biggest issues and complaints with the Cintiq Companion 1 and 2. What about these "new gen" models though?
Have you tried Lazy Nezumi Pro? I've had this wavy line issue on every Wacom or Wacom-penabled device that I've ever owned... I always figured it was my hand. But Lazy Nezumi takes care of the wobbliness when I'm doing finish art. Good tip from Saito Shunsuke on using a previous generation stylus. As for a stand, I recommend the Keynamics Aviator Laptop stand for the MSP16- super sturdy, doesn't block any airflow vents, and very compact when broken down.
Hi, can you keep us updated if they solve the wavy lines issue? i want to buy the cintiq pro 16 but i dont want to spend more money buying a propen1 additional to the displayport to minidisplayport cable that wacom doesn´t include. I just want to get a quality product for my $1499.
thanks again for another informative video! they are quite helpful. the drawbacks are quite a bummer and certainly not what you'd expect from a pro device this expensive. would appreciate any updates should conditions change! i really like what the cintiq pro has to offer but cannot justify a purchase like this with the issues it's having. wacom promos seem to be largely quiet about this device as well, i don't see nearly the same push for it as the rest of their products.
i bought the mobile pro. i am very very sad with this product.because today it is forced to update the windows system then it said no device and i can noy use the wacom pen at all!?it is a tablet and i spend $3000 on this and i CAN NOT USE THE PEN!!! i tried to restart and download and install the lastest driver for the wacom mobile studio pro a few times but it is not working at all.i could only use finger to type and move now.very sad,looking for solutions,thanks.
my girlfriend has an issue with it, the pen has a 'mirror bug' let's say, when she moves the pen on the right of the screen the arrow goes on the left.
So I'm sitting here on amazon trying to decide between these two devices... I'm glad I found your video, because you answer several questions that nobody has mentioned. Firstly, on the Cintiq, the paperwork shows hooking the power to the top left USBC port and the computer to the right USBC. But according to this video, that doesn't give 4K resolution. So the correct way to hook it up would be top left USBC to computer and one of the others for power? (Another thing that drives me nuts is that you need TWO wires coming off the thing to use it, where the 13HD only has one for power, USB, and video...) Second, and I didn't know this, but the Cintiq has fans? (I've owned and used older Cintiq displays and none had fans in the past.) The only questions about the MSP I have are about using it as a slave display. Does it do 4K as a slave or is it limited like the CC2? And does the tablet need to be running to be a slave or does it go into a kind of "zombie" mode where the display turns on, but the PC doesn't (like the CC2)? Finally, how would you say the MSP measures up to the CC2? I'm very disappointed Wacom decided to not include the stand or carry case for the MSP, but if the performance is really that much better, then I might get over that. (Honestly, Wacom couldn't throw in a $3 piece of aluminum and a $5 case when you're already putting $3k down on a new tablet?)
24HD has a fan. I had just done an almost silent fully custom watercooled PC build when I bought it. The Cintiq is louder than my PC, haha. I do wonder what makes them heat up so much.
I recently bought the MSP13 and I love it. I can't really agree with you on the circle's buttons thing because it really never occurred to me to use them for anything other than switching the ring's modes. They're also not very comfortable to push and you often end up rotating the ring a little when you try to push them to switch modes, which is a bit annoying because you may change your brush size by accident when you want to zoom or something... But I pinch zoom anyway so whatever. The thing with the cursor moving the way it does when floating the pen over the screen is pretty annoying... but I think it's part of what lets you look at the tip of the pen when drawing instead of looking at the cursor itself. I feel like there's some sort of location prediction software hidden in there. And lastly, I've run into an issue that wasn't mentioned in this video. The auto rotation switch on the side of the device can't be rebound. It's function is always to switch auto rotation on and off. I've sent Wacom a letter regarding the matter and they came back to me saying that it's programmed into the button's hardware to switch auto rotation on and off and that it's function can't be changed. If anyone knows a workaround for this, please let me know.
Floating cursor thing is deff a lame glitch, and every worse it was fixed in the Cintiq 13/16 so it doesn't look like a software problem. It actually causes some larger issues in other programs sadly. Thanks for the comment though.
hi i had a msp13. but i have 1 problem is that msp13 heat up quiet fast when i work. do you feel hot when your right arm place on the surface when you work too?
Thanks! I didn't know that Wacom made a 16" Cintiq. Yeah, wavy lines are crazy. It seems like a giant step backward. There ARE a couple plugins that are supposed to help with this (*Lazy Nezumi* is one) but we shouldn't have to deal with this in 2017. Is it possible that this is a hardware issue?
Thank you for this info, the company doesn't listen to anyone. I have the old cintiq 24 hd touch and that has issues as well. I tell one thing software companies and hard ware-companies do not listen. It's all profit...profit...profit regardless. They should work together but they don't and the should listen to there customers more. Microsoft has the same problem. I would have brought one of these, but the battery is rubbish..., but that's just me anyway I wait to see what happens at E3 this year,...Anyway thank you kindly for this Tim.
I'm thinking this review needs to be revisited since Wacom released their newest driver which may have addressed wavy lines. Calibration is always a PITA and I've had to make several attempts to get all four crosshairs in the middle, count them 4! That takes a steady hand for anyone and I recommend holding the pen straight up. As for complaints about sleep mode, that is a Windows issue, not a Cintiq one. Never use sleep mode on Windows, period, trust me on this! Go into the settings and shut it off. This feature (bug) in Windows is ongoing and has been prevalent many years and does not appear to be something they plan to fix even if they can. Read and I mean alllll of it before changing your settings, no skimming or cheating! www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-software/How-to-disable-Sleep-Mode-or-Hibernation-793/
Problem with screen on Cintiq 16: I followed the instructions in the booklet and on the website. When I try to use my Cintiq 16 I get the following message on screen: Information, no signal, go to power saving mode. The screen then goes black. The device works as a drawing tablet but the screen does not seem to work.
I tried pro 16 and was going to buy one, the critiques also were full of praise for it but then i saw customer ratings on it and its rated something between 2 to 3 out of 5 on. different websites, I dont know if thats costumer 2/5 awful or critique 5/5 perfection but I always trust buyers way more, will probably order iPad pro now
The last Intuos pro have the issue with the wobbling lines, when you tilt your pen, the line is wobbling, but if you hold it verticaly it works fine. Then I tried with an older stylus on it, and there wasn't any wobbling lines. I'm supposing that the new pro pen 2 is not good.
I have a 24 hd only pen and a hybrid companion .... I always wanted to sell them to have a display in high definition like PRO16 ... I was about to sell my screens to buy it ... but as soon as I saw the problem of the lines wavy I said ... wow ... it can not be, bye forever. Thanks for this valuable information ... I will never buy it.
I have a Cintiq 22HD and Wacom has now fixed the wobbly line driver issue - are you saying even with the updated driver that the Pro 16 has a wobbly line issue? (Sorry if you mentioned this and I missed it!) I was thinking of swapping my 22HD for the Pro 16. Thanks.
Nice video, thank you for your time. By the way, do you know if these models still having problems of overheating, lag, charging, wifi connection, some kind of stains (I don't know how to name it, but some people has the problem when they do pressure with a finger and in other space of the tablet looks like if you were touching a LCD monitor), I saw some bad reviews in amazon, so... do you know something about if they still having issues? or know people with those problems? Thank you
hello sir, i just ordered a wacom cintiq and on opening the box found a defect on the screen,so i returned it the next morning.I notified the dealer to give me a new piece as he told me to wait for the product to be repaired or checked but do i have to w8 for something i hv not used at all,yet alone have not even turned it on.What do i do ?
Thank you. That was very helpful and informative! Have you returned your Cintiq pro 16? I think I am going to return the product as well unless they come up with the update or solution for the wavy lines... Have you figured out the way to solve this issue on Cintiq pro 16 or did u just returned it? BTW, I tried w/ '15 15"Macbook pro (El Captain) and Dell M5510 (windows 7) and both had the same wavy line issue.
Hey man, loved the video fairly informative. I have been using the mobile studio for a year now and I was wondering if you came up with the following issues. Tendency to shut off on its own some times, majority of the reason is win10 wants to update. Heats up faster than the desert. And occasional pen recognition just disappears. I'm unsure if this is right place to toss out these comments but hey, haha
Wacom, it's time to stahp, or move on with your time, your devices have more bugs than cheaper options, your competition has better customer support and their products are a third of the price.
Looking at all the positive reviews of things like the Huion KAMVAS GT-191 (Around 20 inches of delicious IPS panel) and then looking at the price of the 22HD. I can't help but laugh really hard at the irony when some people try to defend wacom as the only option for professionals. The only thing the Cintiq pro 16 has over any other tablet is the parallax being so minimal, that's essentially it. I've had 5 Wacom tablets over the last 10 years, 3 of those with major issues. 1 still lives (intuos4 medium) and the other had it's cord chewed up by "someone" (old intuos3 large, may you rest in piece).
I honestly didn't even notice the MSP's hover skipping, mostly because there's nothing in my workflow that'd be affected by it. It honestly behaves like it's a lower resolution that the display itself? As for the cursor, I think that's probably just Windows doing a thing - I use a different cursor, and have no such issues with it. I do have issues with sleep, though, and the same goes for everything else I have that uses Windows... My solution is to disable sleep entirely and just have it power off the screen.
Good video, and made me hold off until I see these issues fixed. I have USB C port on my motherboard, but how would I know if its supports Alternate Mode or not? Thanks, Dan
Cintiq Pro 16: Still having Display recognizing issues...considering getting USB-C to display (hooking it to GPU). Recommendations? On a side note, Wacom should include more/better adapters. USB-C tech seems inconsistent
Hey unskilled guy! Was this video posted before or after your "4K fix for the 16 pro" video? You mentioned in that video that getting the 16 into 4k fixed the wavy lines from the lower resolution.. So was that really fixed? or has the lines issue persisted?
You forgot the issue that they lied to us about "no calibration needed, works perfectly". The mouse is still totally not where the pen is and you cannot hit the same line again if you are not zoomed in totally. Especially in the corners you can see that it is missplaced.
I purchased a Cintiq Mobile Pro The first one I received glitched horribly within 15 minutes of use and I had to send it back. The second one worked properly but it ran sooo toasty. The processor(?) is on the bottom middle, right where you would hold it in your lap. It's very uncomfortable to draw with. At times it ran so hot that the entire right side was too hot to the touch, like the temperature of soup that has been in the microwave too long and it hurt my hands! The screen itself was too hot to draw on and I needed to have a cloth underneath my hand just so I could comfortably draw. My fan wasn't loud but honestly I wish the fan was noisy and loud as possible if it meant that it ventilated properly! I didn't face the wavy line problem as much. I drew for about 2 hours, but I sent it back again. I would never survive working 8 hrs a day in the summer with it.
Just got the Cintiq Pro 16, and very close to returning it. It has lag & latency issues on my machine (late 2013 model) and uses up ALL of my left side computer ports, so I need to dongle like crazy to use the express keys, too. I also have that annoying pink hue issue, which I mostly got rid of, but it's still slightly there. Bleh.
that reminds me though, would you perhaps sometime try out using your MSP as a cintiq? i believe with the wacom link it actually can function as a cintiq on a stand alone computer. i've seen only a few folks try this and am wondering what your experience might be. i know that's kinda counter intuitive (using a computer tablet as a pen display for another computer) but i am admittedly attracted to the idea that i could use the device as is on the go, but also as a cintiq device for my main (and more powerful) machine.
Biggest issues that any and all Wacom products I've had has, drivers. Drivers, drivers, drivers, and drivers. The fact that I know by heart where to restart the drivers BECAUSE of my Wacom tablets is not a good thing. They seem to just get worse and they have so many weird bugs all over the place. The hardware itself is nice (when not getting super warm and if you can deal with a bunch of cables) but the software is something I would expect from a knockoff Chinese alternative, not from the drawing tablet equivalent of Apple.
is it possible to connect the Cintiq Pro 16 to MobileStudio Pro 16 without the Wacom Link? I would like to know if a Dual-Cintiq Setup is possible with just the MobileStudio as te Main Computer. Thank you.
Couple questions. Does the Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 get scratches from regular use? If so, how bad? My motherboad has usb type-C. What specific wire do I use for it? Is it a usb type-c to usb type-c wire? Thank you for your reviews!
I havent had the device long enough to say if it'll scratch or not, but it's not something I'm worried about. Mine hasn't scratched yet. You should just use a usb-c to usb-c on your computer, but your computer has to support DP ALT mode.
@ 7.30 I have that issue and its on cintiq pro 16 . Now i may assume that it happens on all 16 inch screen models from Wacom. I thought mine was defect but no it's not. Take me sometime to live with it. Quite annoying to me. I did contact with Wacom but nothing fix. I guess its the panel issue, not bug or anything firmware can fix.
I actually have this exact wavy line problem on my cintiq 24hd, it's not even a new model, I bought back in 2012, and I am using the same pen it came with. On the latest drivers I was getting these waves really often, then rolled back to a slightly older driver (6.3.18-5) a few days back and only had one case of wavy lines when using zbrush, but since I had it the problem is definitely still there. I don't know if it's solely a driver problem, or maybe a windows update that messed up with the driver. I'm running windows 10 btw. If you manage to find a solution for this, or even isolate the problem, would you be so kind to share your findings?
I have the 24 pro. Though for the 16 pro and its price and size it shouldnt have those issues. I first got the XP Pen 15.6, cheaper than a 16 hd cintiq.
im having an issue: my cintiq is all connected, i checked it a few times and it seems to be fine, the problem is with the display options (windows key + p). it seems to be stuck on "pc screen only", and it seems my computer doesnt detect the cintiq. it was working fine a few days ago. i don't think the problem is with the cintiq itself.
Your pen was tilted while hovering and maybe that's why it was following your slanted path? Your hand has the pen on an angle and therr is tilt sensitivity in the pen...try holding pen up down and hovering ?
Hi! I want to ask.. I'm thinking about wich one is better because i want to buy one..so.. is better spent more money and buy mobilestudiopro or is more better (now and in the furute) to boy cintiq 16 pro and have a computer outside the cintiq ? (and i want to know wich one is better in efficiency or capacity)
Hey Unskilled guy! I wonder if you can help me which Cintiq should I buy. Should I buy the new cintiq 13 pro and update my PC (it has no USB-C port). Or just buy the Cintiq 13HD? I wonder if the difference in quality is worth the full rig update AND buying an expresskey remote. Cos one of my biggest issues with the new 13 pro is the lack of Express Key and the need to buy a remote. I really love those express keys, and currently I think I will buy the 13HD. Even if it's 4 years older than the new ones. But I wonder if this is a big mistake from somebody's viewpoint who used both. I'm also lacking in budget department, but if 13 Pro is really a super big deal compared to the 13HD, I will stretch further a little. It's also worth mentioning that if I buy the 13HD, I will have a bigger budget to update my SSD, my ram from 8 gigs to 16 gigs. While if I buy the 13 Pro, I wouldn't be able to do that.
I have 13 Pro, and i left more detailed comment above. If you have a thunderbolt port on your machine, you don't need usb -c, if you want more control on your lines, go for 13 Pro. But the screen quality is about the same, and express keys.. so HD is still really good one.. )
Can the Cinitq Pro 16 be plugged into the MSP 16? I wonder if it would fix the wavy line stuff, but I'd also like to know MSP 16 can use another wacom device as a second monitor?
@Unskilled guy please i want to confirm somthin on msp when it is on and you press on the upper right black frame of the tablet not the screen do you notice any thing on the screen itself ??
wacom mobile studio 16 is total crap. Whenever I connect any USB C device on 2 out of 3 ports, the laptop crashes. The moment I attach external display the screen keeps flickering
My personal impression... Wacom is feeling some serious competition - Microsoft and the spawns of UC-Logic - and has really rushed up the deployment of these machines.
No, I had the cintiq pro 13 for a few days here too. Its nearly perfect and has way less issues than the 16. I guess these and the fan are the reasons the 16 got delayed. Even the 27 didnt have a fan. I think in the last day before releasing they noticed: omg its so hot! What can we do? The cheapest way are fans! It will not work out but the user will think it works. It will take a few months to build them in. Lets do that. I feel betrayed.
I have Pro 13 for a month, here is few thoughts: -Not elegant way to connect with thick rigid cables, if you haven't usb-c port /mine is - MBP 2015 -The screen bends a little in the center when you are working -Often I accidentally press the buttons at the top -Screen quality is not that great - grainy and colors are not accurate, as you know it's only 87% RGB But: -It's really pleasant to draw on it, the lines are smooth and you get fantastic control on, im working in Manga Studio mostly, and use Mischief for sketching. In PS it's not that great, but still ok -It's beautiful device, quality in each part / except the cables / -There is no wavy lines issue After it i tried to draw on Surface Pro4 - it's absolutely crap for drawing in comparison to the Wacom Hope, it helps a bit
Heh the buttons are the problem, yes. Its a button you will never use either. I solved that. With sticking a soft cushion on the button. Its these things to protect furniture, they are transparent. I got some which are exact the button size.
Have you tested the wavy diagonal lines issue in photoshop using the psuserconfig.txt trick that disables windows ink? I've used it to fix the slider jitter issue once with intuos [unfortunately it caused a whole bunch of others, so I've quickly foregone it, but it's worth a check.]
I understand that, but the idea is to disable windows ink for a specific application to see if disabling windows ink altogether fixes the problem. It's microsoft's own stylus drivers that causes a lot of issues with wacom's. OSX i do not know about, but wacom believes that is also an OS sided problem.
also do anyone know what's up with the copy and past thing like some times I copy and past and it works but then other times like just now when I tried to copy and past the comment it just came up with three dot's and the text was invisible so I had to typed in what I just said which is only the basics of what I copy and pasted.
My computer recognized the Cintiq Pro for one use. Now, I just get a "to use this app please connect a compatible display device such as a Cintiq or MobileStudio Pro". What the fuck did I just plug in?
Man it needs a cat 5 to charge? No wonder it gets so hot when it's charging... It's worse that it comes out of the box with passive cooling when plugged in. The bottom turns into a hot iron even on a very smooth flat surface...
I have gone though I am going to be on my 7th mobile studio pro 16 because I have a glitch screen the device turns off when it's fully charged and I am still using it and since It's been more then 30 days I can't get my money back and here is the kicker this is my 3rd one from that the one I got when I got my money back. you maybe asking why did I buy it aging well I take 2d animation classes and I desings T-shirts wich I need to work on more but anyways I know that they use Wacom devices at the studios so I got another one with the 3,500 dollars I got back and my friend did not sell his. so I had to.
I'm mostly using Photoshop, Maya, and ZBrush in it. I understand why it could overheat while rendering or working on heavy scenes in Maya, but it's getting extremely hot while painting anything in Photoshop and it even gets very hot when I'm simply browsing the internet. It gets hot about 10 minutes in, and sometimes it shuts down like half an hour in, even when I'm blasting the AC to keep it cool. On top of that, I recently noticed some discoloration and lines on the top right part of the display.
I hear using the GPU will cause the device will overheat. You could try disabling GPU acceleration in Photoshop, but personally I wouldn't dare use Maya on this device, I just dont think it's powerful enough. I use mine for around 8 hours a day and I never had any issues, although I was just using it as a normal laptop.
The fan is noisy and the tablet overheated even if no program is started at all. But seems it solved it to turn on the "energy save" option in the wacom program. You cant make the screen brighter than 75% but thats better than the noise. Also, my neck got serious problems because it only has these ultra small feet. We need the same stand as the 27hd has. Till then Ill take a ipad stand or something like that.
You should try changing it with wacom if you are in the 14 first days. I changed it 3 times and am quite happy with the 3. one till now. So maybe there is 1% of these cintiqs that works better than others for some reason.
Wacom is too overpriced to have this many issues with their flagship products.
channelofstuff that isn't necessarily the case. You get a comparable product from some other brands for half the price many times with wacoms higher end models
I agree. I love it but they need more memory ad space The memory is way too low.I have an iPad Pro and never have memory issues with it.
@channelofstuff Meanwhile Huion devices have better panels, better customer support, longer warranty and WAY cheaper prices.
I hope you make more videos in the future. = D
I like your style, no unboxing, no frills, just what you liked and what you disliked, very objective, especially from the point of view of an artist.
Agreed!
My god this is maddening. I started considering buying a cintiq about a year ago. I was about to just buy a 22HD, because they seemed like the best option even though they're way overpriced and almost 5 years old (!!!). Then I realized that these new Pro models were coming out, so I waited. And waited. Didn't want a MSP...cause I didn't want to pay 3 grand for a new tablet with specs that are significantly weaker than the PC I've already got. When the Pro 16 was finally released, they were out of stock right away and I held off buying one anyway because there were already reports of the whole USBC/Link compatibility issues. Wanted to see how the reviews went once people got a chance to use them. Now that that's happened, it's a damned disaster and tons of people say they regret buying them or are returning them. Great. So, maybe I'll just buy the 22HD after all (back where I started a year ago)....and hey look, those 5 year old devices are STILL comically overpriced at $500 MORE than the brand new ones!! What a god damn mess. Wacom's disdain for their customers couldn't be more apparent.
jabuhrer1 these problems are minimal i bet they already fix them with a driver. Some people are just too picky about the device they want like this guy. I got the 22hd 2 years ago and already have paid himself. its great tablet if you got the space. The 16 pro it's way more modern and needs less desktop space.
forget wacom.
picky? hmmm...no, sorry. I make professional work with my tablets. This can't be accepted for a premium price.
You also pay for like 6 inches more tablet. So the price is not that unreasonable. On the 16 inch you get 4k though, and it has 4x as many pressure-levels. So i'd definitely go with the Cintiq Pro. You gotta remember though, that the 22hd was top of the line when it was out. And from a business perspective it's best to raise the price of previous generations, to make the new gen more attractive. Although in the EU the 22hd has recently taken a 100€ price-cut. So in my area it's 1799.90€ for 22hd. And 1599.90€ for Cintiq Pro 16. If you buy them directly of the Wacom store.
To you can just get a XP PEN 15.6 pro, it’s better then a cintiq and there’s a RED WHEEL AND YOU CAN CUSTOM IT TO CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE PEN
So disapointed with the wacom cintiq Pro 16, it's not not even close to worth what they are charging
Issues that I had:
It get's really hot
the fan noise is horrible
I had flicker issues when the pen got close
Hard to get 4k working
The colors out of the box is insanly bad
For 1500$ I expected to get a backrub by angels when I turned it on, instead it was constant nutkicks by tiny demons.
Returned it.
Björn Hjorth they are worth if you make a living using them. If you just want to mess around with Photoshop these are not for you. Myself i dont even consider other brand 2 wacom in10 years never a fail.
thank you thank you thank you I needed this so I make my call
thats why u buy huion they make great tablets quality amazing no major issues also they are like 500 600 dollars pretty dang cheap
can i comfortably run zbrush and substance painter on this huion drawing tablet/pc? link pls?
cant find anything like the mobile pro on the huion website, they just have displays. no pc's
Teo Gonzalez I agree. I had a Cintiq 12WX previous to the purchase of my new Mobile Studio Pro, and it never gave me a single issue (except some minor issues caused by the need of driver updates from time to time) in the full decade I owned it. Quality and durability was top-notch.
Very informative. I was thinking of getting Cintiq 16 but with this many issues it makes the old Cintiq 13HD look good. This is why I like the Intuos tablets, they may be screenless but the price, the ability to go wireless and the general user friendliness make them so much more appealing than the mad expensive Cintiqs ridden with problems.
Sho kinda depends, for me I can't do the hand eye coordination because I am a fucking moron lol. But I think the wobbly lines issue is with their newer tech. Just something they have to get rid of through future updates and fixes. Heck, even Microsoft finally got rid of it(if I'm correct I can't remember, I think only the tapering got fixed) and it took them a while...
Something must be fucking it up.
However the 13HD is really good. Just I don't use it cause I don't wanna break it. Lol... I"m not smart at all I swear XD
Bought a 16 cintiq. 2 hours later I returned it. The flaws you mentioned plus the hideous effing fan noise was unacceptable
4 years later and this video is still relevant. The issues are still there. Except they appear to have taken the cintiq 16 out of the market... it's real hard to get one now.
I don't even have these two, idk why am I watching... BUT Thanks for all the useful information!
thank you this is really important to share the issues.
I just want to support Wacom in regards to the choice of the Nvidia Quadro GPU: as an Industrial Designer I am very glad that Wacom considered the requirements of 3d artists and designers and decided to embed a decent Quadro card in it. We want to be able to jump from 3d to 2d instantly and we want that 3d to actually spin complex surface or poly or parametric models seamlessly. I would not buy this product if it wouldn't support that. Then I'd completely loose the mobility as I'd need to go for a Cintiq and a separate workstation, as I really need that horsepower.
Can you do a "2-years later" type of a video? Something where you go through the issues you've listed and let us know if Wacom had done anything about them.
I know they never acknowledged the biggest issues and complaints with the Cintiq Companion 1 and 2. What about these "new gen" models though?
Thank you, I was considering updating from my Cintiq Companion Hybrid 13" to a Cintiq Pro 16"... I think I'm staying put.
Thanks a lot !! I'm preparing to buy a Cintiq Pro 16 tomorrow, and see your video today. I'll keep waiting to wacom to fix this issue
Have you tried Lazy Nezumi Pro? I've had this wavy line issue on every Wacom or Wacom-penabled device that I've ever owned... I always figured it was my hand. But Lazy Nezumi takes care of the wobbliness when I'm doing finish art. Good tip from Saito Shunsuke on using a previous generation stylus.
As for a stand, I recommend the Keynamics Aviator Laptop stand for the MSP16- super sturdy, doesn't block any airflow vents, and very compact when broken down.
Hi, can you keep us updated if they solve the wavy lines issue? i want to buy the cintiq pro 16 but i dont want to spend more money buying a propen1 additional to the displayport to minidisplayport cable that wacom doesn´t include. I just want to get a quality product for my $1499.
It may have been fixed th-cam.com/video/pn2z-rni_fI/w-d-xo.html
dude trust me its not worth buying wacom you should get a huion its way more cheap and doesnt have any major issues and there quality is very nice
@Black Demon huion kamvas pro 22 but just wait 2 more years
thats the propen 2, propen 1 is for 13hd which i think is pretty great
Is everything fixed yet?
Using Propen1 or Classic Pen solved the wavy lines issue. I hope Wacom fixes the problem with Propen2.
Thanks for posting this. You're right!
Wait, so the pro pen from the Companion will work on the new Cintiq? What about the other way around?
Not vice versa - no backwards compatibility, but there is forward compatibility.
thanks again for another informative video! they are quite helpful. the drawbacks are quite a bummer and certainly not what you'd expect from a pro device this expensive. would appreciate any updates should conditions change! i really like what the cintiq pro has to offer but cannot justify a purchase like this with the issues it's having. wacom promos seem to be largely quiet about this device as well, i don't see nearly the same push for it as the rest of their products.
i bought the mobile pro.
i am very very sad with this product.because today it is forced to update the windows system then it said no device and i can noy use the wacom pen at all!?it is a tablet and i spend $3000 on this and i CAN NOT USE THE PEN!!! i tried to restart and download and install the lastest driver for the wacom mobile studio pro a few times but it is not working at all.i could only use finger to type and move now.very sad,looking for solutions,thanks.
I had the same trouble. Uninstall the Wacom driver before reinstalling. That worked for me.
my girlfriend has an issue with it, the pen has a 'mirror bug' let's say, when she moves the pen on the right of the screen the arrow goes on the left.
This solves this problem: ww.gametextures.com Find the article Fix your Wacom drivers without restarting.
So I'm sitting here on amazon trying to decide between these two devices... I'm glad I found your video, because you answer several questions that nobody has mentioned. Firstly, on the Cintiq, the paperwork shows hooking the power to the top left USBC port and the computer to the right USBC. But according to this video, that doesn't give 4K resolution. So the correct way to hook it up would be top left USBC to computer and one of the others for power? (Another thing that drives me nuts is that you need TWO wires coming off the thing to use it, where the 13HD only has one for power, USB, and video...) Second, and I didn't know this, but the Cintiq has fans? (I've owned and used older Cintiq displays and none had fans in the past.)
The only questions about the MSP I have are about using it as a slave display. Does it do 4K as a slave or is it limited like the CC2? And does the tablet need to be running to be a slave or does it go into a kind of "zombie" mode where the display turns on, but the PC doesn't (like the CC2)?
Finally, how would you say the MSP measures up to the CC2? I'm very disappointed Wacom decided to not include the stand or carry case for the MSP, but if the performance is really that much better, then I might get over that. (Honestly, Wacom couldn't throw in a $3 piece of aluminum and a $5 case when you're already putting $3k down on a new tablet?)
24HD has a fan. I had just done an almost silent fully custom watercooled PC build when I bought it. The Cintiq is louder than my PC, haha.
I do wonder what makes them heat up so much.
I recently bought the MSP13 and I love it.
I can't really agree with you on the circle's buttons thing because it really never occurred to me to use them for anything other than switching the ring's modes. They're also not very comfortable to push and you often end up rotating the ring a little when you try to push them to switch modes, which is a bit annoying because you may change your brush size by accident when you want to zoom or something... But I pinch zoom anyway so whatever.
The thing with the cursor moving the way it does when floating the pen over the screen is pretty annoying... but I think it's part of what lets you look at the tip of the pen when drawing instead of looking at the cursor itself. I feel like there's some sort of location prediction software hidden in there.
And lastly, I've run into an issue that wasn't mentioned in this video. The auto rotation switch on the side of the device can't be rebound. It's function is always to switch auto rotation on and off. I've sent Wacom a letter regarding the matter and they came back to me saying that it's programmed into the button's hardware to switch auto rotation on and off and that it's function can't be changed. If anyone knows a workaround for this, please let me know.
Floating cursor thing is deff a lame glitch, and every worse it was fixed in the Cintiq 13/16 so it doesn't look like a software problem. It actually causes some larger issues in other programs sadly. Thanks for the comment though.
hi i had a msp13. but i have 1 problem is that msp13 heat up quiet fast when i work. do you feel hot when your right arm place on the surface when you work too?
Nguyen Nghia yeah, the heating is an issue.
Mine even heat up when I run chrome....
Nguyen Nghia show me a computer that doesn't heat up when launching chrome. :D
Thanks! I didn't know that Wacom made a 16" Cintiq. Yeah, wavy lines are crazy. It seems like a giant step backward. There ARE a couple plugins that are supposed to help with this (*Lazy Nezumi* is one) but we shouldn't have to deal with this in 2017. Is it possible that this is a hardware issue?
I've heard it got patched
Thank you for this info, the company doesn't listen to anyone. I have the old cintiq 24 hd touch and that has issues as well. I tell one thing software companies and hard ware-companies do not listen. It's all profit...profit...profit regardless. They should work together but they don't and the should listen to there customers more. Microsoft has the same problem. I would have brought one of these, but the battery is rubbish..., but that's just me anyway I wait to see what happens at E3 this year,...Anyway thank you kindly for this Tim.
I'm thinking this review needs to be revisited since Wacom released their newest driver which may have addressed wavy lines. Calibration is always a PITA and I've had to make several attempts to get all four crosshairs in the middle, count them 4! That takes a steady hand for anyone and I recommend holding the pen straight up. As for complaints about sleep mode, that is a Windows issue, not a Cintiq one. Never use sleep mode on Windows, period, trust me on this! Go into the settings and shut it off. This feature (bug) in Windows is ongoing and has been prevalent many years and does not appear to be something they plan to fix even if they can. Read and I mean alllll of it before changing your settings, no skimming or cheating! www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-software/How-to-disable-Sleep-Mode-or-Hibernation-793/
Errrrm. Been using windows 10 for 2 years and had no issues with sleep/resume on my 2 laptops.
Problem with screen on Cintiq 16: I followed the instructions in the booklet and on the website. When I try to use my Cintiq 16 I get the following message on screen: Information, no signal, go to power saving mode. The screen then goes black. The device works as a drawing tablet but the screen does not seem to work.
I tried pro 16 and was going to buy one, the critiques also were full of praise for it but then i saw customer ratings on it and its rated something between 2 to 3 out of 5 on. different websites, I dont know if thats costumer 2/5 awful or critique 5/5 perfection but I always trust buyers way more, will probably order iPad pro now
Thanks for the info, nearly bought the Cintiq as an upgrade from my 13HD. After watching this it seems more like a downgrade.
I'm having same issue with cintiq pro 16. Thank you bro
The last Intuos pro have the issue with the wobbling lines, when you tilt your pen, the line is wobbling, but if you hold it verticaly it works fine. Then I tried with an older stylus on it, and there wasn't any wobbling lines. I'm supposing that the new pro pen 2 is not good.
Thanks for such detail 👍
I have a 24 hd only pen and a hybrid companion .... I always wanted to sell them to have a display in high definition like PRO16 ... I was about to sell my screens to buy it ... but as soon as I saw the problem of the lines wavy I said ... wow ... it can not be, bye forever. Thanks for this valuable information ... I will never buy it.
I have a Cintiq 22HD and Wacom has now fixed the wobbly line driver issue - are you saying even with the updated driver that the Pro 16 has a wobbly line issue? (Sorry if you mentioned this and I missed it!) I was thinking of swapping my 22HD for the Pro 16. Thanks.
For me, yes. In Mac and in Windows my Cintiq 16 had wobbly lines even with the most recent update.
I hope you had the issues fixed!
I agree Wacom is never clear!
I think i have dead or stuck pixels in a line on my msp 16, what should i do? I cant find the s/n on my product either :c so frustrating!
Nice video, thank you for your time. By the way, do you know if these models still having problems of overheating, lag, charging, wifi connection, some kind of stains (I don't know how to name it, but some people has the problem when they do pressure with a finger and in other space of the tablet looks like if you were touching a LCD monitor), I saw some bad reviews in amazon, so... do you know something about if they still having issues? or know people with those problems?
Thank you
hello sir, i just ordered a wacom cintiq and on opening the box found a defect on the screen,so i returned it the next morning.I notified the dealer to give me a new piece as he told me to wait for the product to be repaired or checked but do i have to w8 for something i hv not used at all,yet alone have not even turned it on.What do i do ?
Thank you. That was very helpful and informative! Have you returned your Cintiq pro 16? I think I am going to return the product as well unless they come up with the update or solution for the wavy lines... Have you figured out the way to solve this issue on Cintiq pro 16 or did u just returned it?
BTW, I tried w/ '15 15"Macbook pro (El Captain) and Dell M5510 (windows 7) and both had the same wavy line issue.
I did return mine, I'll be sticking with my MSP for now.
Hey man, loved the video fairly informative. I have been using the mobile studio for a year now and I was wondering if you came up with the following issues. Tendency to shut off on its own some times, majority of the reason is win10 wants to update. Heats up faster than the desert. And occasional pen recognition just disappears.
I'm unsure if this is right place to toss out these comments but hey, haha
Hi. Do you have any recommendations for cintiq pro 16 ?
Does the stand for Mobile studio stand compatible with it ?
Wacom, it's time to stahp, or move on with your time, your devices have more bugs than cheaper options, your competition has better customer support and their products are a third of the price.
Looking at all the positive reviews of things like the Huion KAMVAS GT-191 (Around 20 inches of delicious IPS panel) and then looking at the price of the 22HD. I can't help but laugh really hard at the irony when some people try to defend wacom as the only option for professionals.
The only thing the Cintiq pro 16 has over any other tablet is the parallax being so minimal, that's essentially it.
I've had 5 Wacom tablets over the last 10 years, 3 of those with major issues. 1 still lives (intuos4 medium) and the other had it's cord chewed up by "someone" (old intuos3 large, may you rest in piece).
I'm just hoping they'll update their 22/27 monitors c_c it's been 2-3 years... hopefully they'll announce something soon.
I honestly didn't even notice the MSP's hover skipping, mostly because there's nothing in my workflow that'd be affected by it. It honestly behaves like it's a lower resolution that the display itself? As for the cursor, I think that's probably just Windows doing a thing - I use a different cursor, and have no such issues with it.
I do have issues with sleep, though, and the same goes for everything else I have that uses Windows... My solution is to disable sleep entirely and just have it power off the screen.
Good video, and made me hold off until I see these issues fixed. I have USB C port on my motherboard, but how would I know if its supports Alternate Mode or not?
Thanks, Dan
Cintiq Pro 16: Still having Display recognizing issues...considering getting USB-C to display (hooking it to GPU). Recommendations? On a side note, Wacom should include more/better adapters. USB-C tech seems inconsistent
Handsome guy!
Thank you for the review :)
Hey unskilled guy! Was this video posted before or after your "4K fix for the 16 pro" video? You mentioned in that video that getting the 16 into 4k fixed the wavy lines from the lower resolution.. So was that really fixed? or has the lines issue persisted?
It was after, wavy lines are still an issue as far as I know sadly.
11:40 how can I re-Map the wheel buttons with autohotkey? I wanted to do this for ages.
You forgot the issue that they lied to us about "no calibration needed, works perfectly".
The mouse is still totally not where the pen is and you cannot hit the same line again if you are not zoomed in totally. Especially in the corners you can see that it is missplaced.
I purchased a Cintiq Mobile Pro
The first one I received glitched horribly within 15 minutes of use and I had to send it back.
The second one worked properly but it ran sooo toasty. The processor(?) is on the bottom middle, right where you would hold it in your lap. It's very uncomfortable to draw with. At times it ran so hot that the entire right side was too hot to the touch, like the temperature of soup that has been in the microwave too long and it hurt my hands! The screen itself was too hot to draw on and I needed to have a cloth underneath my hand just so I could comfortably draw.
My fan wasn't loud but honestly I wish the fan was noisy and loud as possible if it meant that it ventilated properly!
I didn't face the wavy line problem as much.
I drew for about 2 hours, but I sent it back again. I would never survive working 8 hrs a day in the summer with it.
Just got the Cintiq Pro 16, and very close to returning it. It has lag & latency issues on my machine (late 2013 model) and uses up ALL of my left side computer ports, so I need to dongle like crazy to use the express keys, too. I also have that annoying pink hue issue, which I mostly got rid of, but it's still slightly there. Bleh.
that reminds me though, would you perhaps sometime try out using your MSP as a cintiq? i believe with the wacom link it actually can function as a cintiq on a stand alone computer. i've seen only a few folks try this and am wondering what your experience might be. i know that's kinda counter intuitive (using a computer tablet as a pen display for another computer) but i am admittedly attracted to the idea that i could use the device as is on the go, but also as a cintiq device for my main (and more powerful) machine.
I've done it, and it works fine. Nothing super special to say about it. Works the same way it would on the actual MSP, just externally.
Biggest issues that any and all Wacom products I've had has, drivers. Drivers, drivers, drivers, and drivers. The fact that I know by heart where to restart the drivers BECAUSE of my Wacom tablets is not a good thing. They seem to just get worse and they have so many weird bugs all over the place. The hardware itself is nice (when not getting super warm and if you can deal with a bunch of cables) but the software is something I would expect from a knockoff Chinese alternative, not from the drawing tablet equivalent of Apple.
actually I was thinking of selling my 22hd to get the cintiq16 but that video made me rethink the case
dude, I would get the 27 inch instead
I was looking at a Cintiq Pro 16 to get away from that kind of issue, but apparently that just won't do.
What tablets out there don't have the wobble?
is it possible to connect the Cintiq Pro 16 to MobileStudio Pro 16 without the Wacom Link? I would like to know if a Dual-Cintiq Setup is possible with just the MobileStudio as te Main Computer. Thank you.
do you think the cintiq 16 pro has less of the studio pros problems? i was totally put off by the overheating of the mobile studio.
Couple questions. Does the Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 get scratches from regular use? If so, how bad? My motherboad has usb type-C. What specific wire do I use for it? Is it a usb type-c to usb type-c wire? Thank you for your reviews!
I havent had the device long enough to say if it'll scratch or not, but it's not something I'm worried about. Mine hasn't scratched yet. You should just use a usb-c to usb-c on your computer, but your computer has to support DP ALT mode.
I tested the wawy lines on windows. Its the same there too, which means its a tablet problem and not a driver problem.
@ 7.30 I have that issue and its on cintiq pro 16 . Now i may assume that it happens on all 16 inch screen models from Wacom. I thought mine was defect but no it's not. Take me sometime to live with it. Quite annoying to me. I did contact with Wacom but nothing fix. I guess its the panel issue, not bug or anything firmware can fix.
The Cinque 16. Is there a good alternative? (Favourable windows 7 and photoshop CS5 compatible.)
I actually have this exact wavy line problem on my cintiq 24hd, it's not even a new model, I bought back in 2012, and I am using the same pen it came with. On the latest drivers I was getting these waves really often, then rolled back to a slightly older driver (6.3.18-5) a few days back and only had one case of wavy lines when using zbrush, but since I had it the problem is definitely still there.
I don't know if it's solely a driver problem, or maybe a windows update that messed up with the driver. I'm running windows 10 btw.
If you manage to find a solution for this, or even isolate the problem, would you be so kind to share your findings?
what stand are you using that holding up the Mobile StudioPro 16?
are dead pixels among the issue with these devices ?? and does wacom cover this issue if product is under warranty ??
I have the 24 pro. Though for the 16 pro and its price and size it shouldnt have those issues. I first got the XP Pen 15.6, cheaper than a 16 hd cintiq.
im having an issue:
my cintiq is all connected, i checked it a few times and it seems to be fine, the problem is with the display options (windows key + p). it seems to be stuck on "pc screen only", and it seems my computer doesnt detect the cintiq. it was working fine a few days ago. i don't think the problem is with the cintiq itself.
Your pen was tilted while hovering and maybe that's why it was following your slanted path? Your hand has the pen on an angle and therr is tilt sensitivity in the pen...try holding pen up down and hovering ?
any updates on cintiq pro issues? would you recommend it now?
Hi! I want to ask.. I'm thinking about wich one is better because i want to buy one..so.. is better spent more money and buy mobilestudiopro or is more better (now and in the furute) to boy cintiq 16 pro and have a computer outside the cintiq ?
(and i want to know wich one is better in efficiency or capacity)
Hey Unskilled guy! I wonder if you can help me which Cintiq should I buy. Should I buy the new cintiq 13 pro and update my PC (it has no USB-C port). Or just buy the Cintiq 13HD? I wonder if the difference in quality is worth the full rig update AND buying an expresskey remote. Cos one of my biggest issues with the new 13 pro is the lack of Express Key and the need to buy a remote. I really love those express keys, and currently I think I will buy the 13HD. Even if it's 4 years older than the new ones. But I wonder if this is a big mistake from somebody's viewpoint who used both. I'm also lacking in budget department, but if 13 Pro is really a super big deal compared to the 13HD, I will stretch further a little.
It's also worth mentioning that if I buy the 13HD, I will have a bigger budget to update my SSD, my ram from 8 gigs to 16 gigs. While if I buy the 13 Pro, I wouldn't be able to do that.
I have 13 Pro, and i left more detailed comment above.
If you have a thunderbolt port on your machine, you don't need usb -c, if you want more control on your lines, go for 13 Pro. But the screen quality is about the same, and express keys.. so HD is still really good one.. )
Can the Cinitq Pro 16 be plugged into the MSP 16? I wonder if it would fix the wavy line stuff, but I'd also like to know MSP 16 can use another wacom device as a second monitor?
No wobbly-lines for me (i.c.w. Macbook Pro 2014 / Sierra 10.12.4).
Are these issues with the Cintiq pro still happening with the latest drivers? (july 2018 6.3.30-6)
Mine dims on sections of the screen on different days i never noticed fo a while cos my curtains are always shut with slits of light
Have you heard of extreme pen delay for the Cintiq 16? It's so bad that I actually can't draw and no one else seems to be complaining about it
Can you recommend a drawing tablet where I can use it on its own without using a desktop or laptop.
does this device have the same problem like wacom companion 1, the charging port its very weak?
cause in wacom companion it is
@Unskilled guy please i want to confirm somthin on msp when it is on and you press on the upper right black frame of the tablet not the screen do you notice any thing on the screen itself ??
what is the stand that you used with MobileStudio Pro?
wacom mobile studio 16 is total crap. Whenever I connect any USB C device on 2 out of 3 ports, the laptop crashes. The moment I attach external display the screen keeps flickering
My wacom studio pro 16 battery became bloated and popped out the screen shortly after 1 year. Now it is just collecting dust.
My personal impression... Wacom is feeling some serious competition - Microsoft and the spawns of UC-Logic - and has really rushed up the deployment of these machines.
Do you know if anyone has had the wavy line issue with the Cintiq Pro 13?
I don't think the Cintiq Pro 13 has the issues.
No, I had the cintiq pro 13 for a few days here too. Its nearly perfect and has way less issues than the 16. I guess these and the fan are the reasons the 16 got delayed.
Even the 27 didnt have a fan.
I think in the last day before releasing they noticed: omg its so hot! What can we do? The cheapest way are fans! It will not work out but the user will think it works. It will take a few months to build them in. Lets do that.
I feel betrayed.
I have Pro 13 for a month, here is few thoughts:
-Not elegant way to connect with thick rigid cables, if you haven't usb-c port /mine is - MBP 2015
-The screen bends a little in the center when you are working
-Often I accidentally press the buttons at the top
-Screen quality is not that great - grainy and colors are not accurate, as you know it's only 87% RGB
But:
-It's really pleasant to draw on it, the lines are smooth and you get fantastic control on, im working in Manga Studio mostly, and use Mischief for sketching. In PS it's not that great, but still ok
-It's beautiful device, quality in each part / except the cables /
-There is no wavy lines issue
After it i tried to draw on Surface Pro4 - it's absolutely crap for drawing in comparison to the Wacom
Hope, it helps a bit
Heh the buttons are the problem, yes. Its a button you will never use either. I solved that. With sticking a soft cushion on the button. Its these things to protect furniture, they are transparent. I got some which are exact the button size.
Is there another issue(s) with the cintiq pro 13 we should look after?
Have you tested the wavy diagonal lines issue in photoshop using the psuserconfig.txt trick that disables windows ink? I've used it to fix the slider jitter issue once with intuos [unfortunately it caused a whole bunch of others, so I've quickly foregone it, but it's worth a check.]
I haven't, but the issue extends beyond photoshop and happens in all other programs as well.
I understand that, but the idea is to disable windows ink for a specific application to see if disabling windows ink altogether fixes the problem. It's microsoft's own stylus drivers that causes a lot of issues with wacom's. OSX i do not know about, but wacom believes that is also an OS sided problem.
Thanks for breaking that down, I'll have to see if I can get a different result by trying that.
On Wacom Intuos you can disable it from the Wacom driver settings page.
Hi, which stand are you using?
Can you do review about Huion kamvas gt-221?
Agreed. Don't buy it yet. It's super buggy in Photoshop and Illustrator. Really lame that Wacom support doesn't acknowledge well known issues.
also do anyone know what's up with the copy and past thing like some times I copy and past and it works but then other times like just now when I tried to copy and past the comment it just came up with three dot's and the text was invisible so I had to typed in what I just said which is only the basics of what I copy and pasted.
Thought they fixed the wavey line
My computer recognized the Cintiq Pro for one use. Now, I just get a "to use this app please connect a compatible display device such as a Cintiq or MobileStudio Pro". What the fuck did I just plug in?
Man it needs a cat 5 to charge? No wonder it gets so hot when it's charging...
It's worse that it comes out of the box with passive cooling when plugged in. The bottom turns into a hot iron even on a very smooth flat surface...
Can I use mobile studio pro like citiq?? By wacom link....
i wonder if he used a ruler and drew the lines if you still get wavy lines.
You would, I did that in a previous video and the lines are still wavy.
oh yah that sucks.
Have the issues been fixed?
thanks
I have gone though I am going to be on my 7th mobile studio pro 16 because I have a glitch screen the device turns off when it's fully charged and I am still using it and since It's been more then 30 days I can't get my money back and here is the kicker this is my 3rd one from that the one I got when I got my money back. you maybe asking why did I buy it aging well I take 2d animation classes and I desings T-shirts wich I need to work on more but anyways I know that they use Wacom devices at the studios so I got another one with the 3,500 dollars I got back and my friend did not sell his. so I had to.
I'm having some serious overheating and shutdown issues with my MSP. Have you noticed any overheating with yours?
Mine hasn't shut down or overheated, what are you using your for? How long do you normally spend on it?
I'm mostly using Photoshop, Maya, and ZBrush in it. I understand why it could overheat while rendering or working on heavy scenes in Maya, but it's getting extremely hot while painting anything in Photoshop and it even gets very hot when I'm simply browsing the internet.
It gets hot about 10 minutes in, and sometimes it shuts down like half an hour in, even when I'm blasting the AC to keep it cool.
On top of that, I recently noticed some discoloration and lines on the top right part of the display.
I hear using the GPU will cause the device will overheat. You could try disabling GPU acceleration in Photoshop, but personally I wouldn't dare use Maya on this device, I just dont think it's powerful enough. I use mine for around 8 hours a day and I never had any issues, although I was just using it as a normal laptop.
The fan is noisy and the tablet overheated even if no program is started at all.
But seems it solved it to turn on the "energy save" option in the wacom program. You cant make the screen brighter than 75% but thats better than the noise.
Also, my neck got serious problems because it only has these ultra small feet. We need the same stand as the 27hd has. Till then Ill take a ipad stand or something like that.
You should try changing it with wacom if you are in the 14 first days. I changed it 3 times and am quite happy with the 3. one till now. So maybe there is 1% of these cintiqs that works better than others for some reason.
They seemed to have solved a lot of these issues? Is your improved as well? th-cam.com/video/MZAvtmejENc/w-d-xo.html
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So, what the best tablet for drawing can I buy? Bad Bad Bad what the best?
Intuos :) or Bamboo
Anna Tao oh after two months someone helped. I still w8. appreciate. thank u. try to recommend em to the author. cintiq pro 16 is a good enough