I am running Fedora 40 on desktop and notebook with Hyprland and Budgie environments. Zero audio issues. Zero issues. Fedora 39 was fine too. I can understand how others could have various issues, but I have not experienced these (yet).
To each their own but I just can't with the candy icons lol. I appreciate Garuda. Heck, I genuinely appreciate MOST distros but I just can't.. It'd be cool if Garuda offered support on the Plasma minimal install. They have alot of good things going. I appreciate the channel and cool content
Why not make your own Arch spin? It's really just a matter of sorting out your package list. If it's in an ISO form then you can have different spins at different stages. You don't have to update arch, you can set the downgrade to keep what you want still. You can give my Arch spin a try if you like. Time for me to make a video about it and post the download link.
You are aware that Fedora has separate iso's for every major desktop environment on Linux, right? Fedora is in no way "making" anyone use Gnome out of the box. Also, you are not in any way forced to update Arch weekly. You can choose to update only specified packages you need to in Pacman. One more thing. I don't think you should consider NixOs based on what you have said previously on your issues with Arch. If those issues made you walk away from Arch, then NixOS is going to most probably be a worse experience for you.
1.) Technically yes, but really no. I think I've explained this ad nauseum, but since you are new,; they have isos for the different desktop environments but they don't always work. Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think. 2.) No, you can't. I used Arch for 10 years, and it used to be true. But currently, with the AUR which I used to love and use made it to where you really can't. So maybe you could if you don't use the AUR. But, if I don't don't update my system within about 10-14 days then I have to uninstall several packages and MAYBE it will update and then go back and reinstall everything. I guess I could go back to compiling my own software (which I've done, I actually have repos in the AUR) 3.) NixOS - I wouldn't have problems because I understand the ecosystem of both platforms infinitely better than you. I don't have to update all the time but it's true that I'd have to fuss with it. Maybe that's what you meant? I like to fuss on things that are worth it, not necessarily reconfigure or reinstall my OS, but over the last weekend I cut my teeth on setting up the dzen2 status bar. Give it a try, because it used to stump me but now I have a beautiful bar.
@@linux-dev-labs "1.) Technically yes, but really no. they have isos for the different desktop environments but they don't always work. Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think. " Huh? What do you even mean, "they don't always work"? That tells me nothing as to what the actual issue was. I, as well as others have used and tested almost every official flavor of Fedora, and not had any issue of iso's not working, which leads me to believe it is a problem on your end. Possibly hardware incompatibility, maybe? But to claim certain versions of Fedora just don't work simply because you, personally had issues with it, would be outright false. "Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think." You certainly would not be justified in the conclusion that Fedora is "making" you use Gnome based soley on the fact that you've personally had problems with other versions. "No, you can't. I used Arch for 10 years, and it used to be true. But currently, with the AUR which I used to love and use made it to where you really can't. " This all depends on your own configuration, but to the best of my knowledge, Arch has not made any major changes to the AUR that would make this impossible. In fact, I just upgraded specific packages while not upgrading others, recently on one of my own installs. So once again, it appears to be your own issue and not the issue of the distro. I watched your 'Why I left Arch' video, and all throughout it you were very meandering and incoherent, nor did you point out a specific area where Arch changed something that affected your install. I'm still at a loss for what your actual issues were. "I understand the ecosystem of both platforms infinitely better than you." I'd be VERY careful about making very bold assertions like this when you don't actually know anything about the person on the internet you're talking to. You may be talking to a distro developer, and that would make you look extremely foolish. Even if this is true, you don't seem to be able to articulate things very well. "I don't have to update all the time but it's true that I'd have to fuss with it. Maybe that's what you meant?" Yes, that is what I meant. It seems that the one thing that I can gather from you, is the one thing you don't want to fuss too much with is your OS. In that respect, Nix wouldn't necessarily be the best fit.
@@PPKNexus "Huh? What do you even mean, "they don't always work"? You know when you burn a iso image to a usb drive, but it doesn't actually load the OS or install script? That's what I mean. Gnome always works, Plasma and XFCE4 works a little over 60% of the time. "You may be talking to a distro developer, and that would make you look extremely foolish" -- I don't think you are one, but in the unlikely event you are; we can talk. "It seems that the one thing that I can gather from you, is the one thing you don't want to fuss too much with is your OS" -- Not exactly, I don't want to have to do stupid stuff like mess around when a package breaks my dependencies and there isn't any work arounds unless I want to recompile it myself. That has actually happened to me more than once because I didn't update my packages for over 2 weeks in Arch. I then have to spend about 15-20 minutes to uninstall the applications with the broken packages, and reinstall everything and if that doesn't work, I have to do a complete reinstall. I had a similar experience with Manjaro and I went to Arch. If I had NixOS, well, once it's there, there's isn't those kinds of issues. It's kind of like setting up Crux, Gentoo, or Slackware in that once they are set up; it's there until you remove it. Personally, I would probably be using Slackware now except I do a lot of multimedia stuff and it would conflict with that so NixOS seems like a good candidate for me. I was hoping that Fedora would just be a little more like Arch so I could just compile the packages I needed with Copr and not have everything inextricably linked to the Gnome ecosystem, but that's not the case. Also, I know that Fedora isn't the only Distro that does things like this. I used Debian for over a year but I sometimes ran into problems with old packages that I didn't run into much with Arch or Fedora. Honestly, I remember when I made this video, I was frustrated about something else regarding Fedora and my sound on my laptop. I assumed the problem was Fedora because my laptop speakers worked on PopOS and Arch, and even worked for awhile in Fedora but one day after an update; it didn't work. Then, I found out that it was an MSI issue they rolled out a hardware update that hadn't got to the Linux kernel yet.
@@linux-dev-labs Thank you for actually being specific about the issues. It all depends on what program you use burn the iso's a lot of the time. Some work with some distros while others don't, but do with certain other distros. I have found Ventoy to be the one that seems to have the highest success with virtually all of them. My current Fedora install is Plasma and had no issues with the burn or install. As far as Gnome goes, it may just be a coincidence. I don't see any causal link that the desktop version of a distro would make a when burning an iso. My point about the developer thing, is that there is no way for you to know. Making a broad assumption of your knowledge base compared to someone else you don't know on the internet is just plain irrational. Developer or not, someone could also have been on Arch much longer than you and thus have a greater knowledge, but you couldn't know that unless you speak to them. As far as Arch goes, the one major thing I learned from my first go around with Arch is when it comes to applications and software, it is better to not install from the AUR, and instead use Flatpaks, Snaps, and AppImages, whike only installing core system utility packages from the AUR. Things tend to get a lot less messy that way. Have you considered trying out OpenSuse Tumbleweed? It seems like it may be right for you. It's a rolling release that uses Btrfs with a built in rollback feature that takes automatic system snapshots. It really is a game changer like non-other. It is orders of magnitude more stable than Arch. There is a little saying when it comes to best describing Tumbleweed, it feels like Fedora, runs like Arch, and installs like Debian.
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I am running Fedora 40 on desktop and notebook with Hyprland and Budgie environments. Zero audio issues. Zero issues. Fedora 39 was fine too. I can understand how others could have various issues, but I have not experienced these (yet).
I'm running Fedora 40 on my other computer, and I am not having audio issues either.
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To each their own but I just can't with the candy icons lol. I appreciate Garuda. Heck, I genuinely appreciate MOST distros but I just can't.. It'd be cool if Garuda offered support on the Plasma minimal install. They have alot of good things going. I appreciate the channel and cool content
Why not make your own Arch spin? It's really just a matter of sorting out your package list. If it's in an ISO form then you can have different spins at different stages. You don't have to update arch, you can set the downgrade to keep what you want still. You can give my Arch spin a try if you like. Time for me to make a video about it and post the download link.
Yes, but you would break packages when you tried to eventually update.Yes, I'll check it out.
@@linux-dev-labs Cool. I'm halfway through editing the video. I'll tag you in the description when I post it.
I ran Arch once. I'll never get that 15 minutes back ever either.
@@1pcfred You got away lightly. 15 minutes is how long it takes to figure out how to scratch may ass.
i use Carli built from ground up
You are aware that Fedora has separate iso's for every major desktop environment on Linux, right? Fedora is in no way "making" anyone use Gnome out of the box. Also, you are not in any way forced to update Arch weekly. You can choose to update only specified packages you need to in Pacman.
One more thing. I don't think you should consider NixOs based on what you have said previously on your issues with Arch. If those issues made you walk away from Arch, then NixOS is going to most probably be a worse experience for you.
1.) Technically yes, but really no. I think I've explained this ad nauseum, but since you are new,; they have isos for the different desktop environments but they don't always work. Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think. 2.) No, you can't. I used Arch for 10 years, and it used to be true. But currently, with the AUR which I used to love and use made it to where you really can't. So maybe you could if you don't use the AUR. But, if I don't don't update my system within about 10-14 days then I have to uninstall several packages and MAYBE it will update and then go back and reinstall everything. I guess I could go back to compiling my own software (which I've done, I actually have repos in the AUR) 3.) NixOS - I wouldn't have problems because I understand the ecosystem of both platforms infinitely better than you. I don't have to update all the time but it's true that I'd have to fuss with it. Maybe that's what you meant? I like to fuss on things that are worth it, not necessarily reconfigure or reinstall my OS, but over the last weekend I cut my teeth on setting up the dzen2 status bar. Give it a try, because it used to stump me but now I have a beautiful bar.
@@linux-dev-labs "1.) Technically yes, but really no. they have isos for the different desktop environments but they don't always work. Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think. "
Huh? What do you even mean, "they don't always work"? That tells me nothing as to what the actual issue was. I, as well as others have used and tested almost every official flavor of Fedora, and not had any issue of iso's not working, which leads me to believe it is a problem on your end. Possibly hardware incompatibility, maybe? But to claim certain versions of Fedora just don't work simply because you, personally had issues with it, would be outright false.
"Gnome almost always works though, so what am I to think."
You certainly would not be justified in the conclusion that Fedora is "making" you use Gnome based soley on the fact that you've personally had problems with other versions.
"No, you can't. I used Arch for 10 years, and it used to be true. But currently, with the AUR which I used to love and use made it to where you really can't. "
This all depends on your own configuration, but to the best of my knowledge, Arch has not made any major changes to the AUR that would make this impossible. In fact, I just upgraded specific packages while not upgrading others, recently on one of my own installs. So once again, it appears to be your own issue and not the issue of the distro. I watched your 'Why I left Arch' video, and all throughout it you were very meandering and incoherent, nor did you point out a specific area where Arch changed something that affected your install. I'm still at a loss for what your actual issues were.
"I understand the ecosystem of both platforms infinitely better than you."
I'd be VERY careful about making very bold assertions like this when you don't actually know anything about the person on the internet you're talking to. You may be talking to a distro developer, and that would make you look extremely foolish. Even if this is true, you don't seem to be able to articulate things very well.
"I don't have to update all the time but it's true that I'd have to fuss with it. Maybe that's what you meant?"
Yes, that is what I meant. It seems that the one thing that I can gather from you, is the one thing you don't want to fuss too much with is your OS. In that respect, Nix wouldn't necessarily be the best fit.
@@PPKNexus "Huh? What do you even mean, "they don't always work"? You know when you burn a iso image to a usb drive, but it doesn't actually load the OS or install script? That's what I mean. Gnome always works, Plasma and XFCE4 works a little over 60% of the time. "You may be talking to a distro developer, and that would make you look extremely foolish" -- I don't think you are one, but in the unlikely event you are; we can talk. "It seems that the one thing that I can gather from you, is the one thing you don't want to fuss too much with is your OS" -- Not exactly, I don't want to have to do stupid stuff like mess around when a package breaks my dependencies and there isn't any work arounds unless I want to recompile it myself. That has actually happened to me more than once because I didn't update my packages for over 2 weeks in Arch. I then have to spend about 15-20 minutes to uninstall the applications with the broken packages, and reinstall everything and if that doesn't work, I have to do a complete reinstall. I had a similar experience with Manjaro and I went to Arch. If I had NixOS, well, once it's there, there's isn't those kinds of issues. It's kind of like setting up Crux, Gentoo, or Slackware in that once they are set up; it's there until you remove it. Personally, I would probably be using Slackware now except I do a lot of multimedia stuff and it would conflict with that so NixOS seems like a good candidate for me. I was hoping that Fedora would just be a little more like Arch so I could just compile the packages I needed with Copr and not have everything inextricably linked to the Gnome ecosystem, but that's not the case. Also, I know that Fedora isn't the only Distro that does things like this. I used Debian for over a year but I sometimes ran into problems with old packages that I didn't run into much with Arch or Fedora. Honestly, I remember when I made this video, I was frustrated about something else regarding Fedora and my sound on my laptop. I assumed the problem was Fedora because my laptop speakers worked on PopOS and Arch, and even worked for awhile in Fedora but one day after an update; it didn't work. Then, I found out that it was an MSI issue they rolled out a hardware update that hadn't got to the Linux kernel yet.
@@linux-dev-labs Thank you for actually being specific about the issues. It all depends on what program you use burn the iso's a lot of the time. Some work with some distros while others don't, but do with certain other distros. I have found Ventoy to be the one that seems to have the highest success with virtually all of them. My current Fedora install is Plasma and had no issues with the burn or install. As far as Gnome goes, it may just be a coincidence. I don't see any causal link that the desktop version of a distro would make a when burning an iso.
My point about the developer thing, is that there is no way for you to know. Making a broad assumption of your knowledge base compared to someone else you don't know on the internet is just plain irrational. Developer or not, someone could also have been on Arch much longer than you and thus have a greater knowledge, but you couldn't know that unless you speak to them.
As far as Arch goes, the one major thing I learned from my first go around with Arch is when it comes to applications and software, it is better to not install from the AUR, and instead use Flatpaks, Snaps, and AppImages, whike only installing core system utility packages from the AUR. Things tend to get a lot less messy that way.
Have you considered trying out OpenSuse Tumbleweed? It seems like it may be right for you. It's a rolling release that uses Btrfs with a built in rollback feature that takes automatic system snapshots. It really is a game changer like non-other. It is orders of magnitude more stable than Arch. There is a little saying when it comes to best describing Tumbleweed, it feels like Fedora, runs like Arch, and installs like Debian.