Mizong quan (yan qing quan) jin ji dou 1961
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- Zhen Wei Academy Mizong quan (yan qing quan), jin ji dou (Golden Roosters Fighting)
Two person set from the Mizong Quan system performed by Master Lu Zhenduo and Zhang Haichen in 1961. This form gets some stick from the those that are at a low or intermediate level in their martial arts journey or aren't familiar with traditional Chinese martial arts (believe me as a young Thai boxer of only 5 - 10 years experience I felt the same).
Mizong quan it's fair to say has some dance like qualities, this may be due to it being a fighting system not originated in the ring and having techniques adapted and shared with weapons combat (in this I mean that movement is often preferable to standing toe to toe, when dealing with multiple attackers and weapons, being able to move with lightness and then hit like a truck are some of the things that make Mizong such an interesting style to learn, and if you are going to move then moving with the agility of a dancer is a decent place to start). It may also be due to them wanting to have some form of display aspect to the taolu which is the case of this demo, this was done for display after all. Unfortunately a lot of people miss the techniques within the form and only see the skipping around because the techniques are being countered before they are completed, which is one of the aims of the 2 person sets, the ability to flow into a counter as soon as you feel the technique being applied (this is only one way of practicing it).
What a lot of people don’t know is that Lu Zhen duo (around 60 years old here) was well know for his combat ability being a Chinese Lei Tai champion and bodyguard and had a lot of fighting experience.
The truth is every move within the form has application, they are just difficult to see, and so a form like this will get lumped into the it doesn’t work, looks silly, it’s modern wushu bracket, which it certainly isn’t. Find out more at mizongkungfuandtaichi.weebly.com
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So cool to see some old school stuff!
The True Soul of Kung Fu is really very simple; it is just Exercise....Keeping Fit n' healthy.....in Both Body n' Mind.....
Not to be taken that seriously really;
Wonderful to even glimpse such rare footage, even survive;.....thx. for Posting......
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Hybridized Flora and Fauna.......(Like the Closing Footage of this Snippet!)
One; day we will go Toe-To-Toe with the likes of:-
Kew Gardens, Richmond London. and Hyde Hall, Rettendon, Essex.
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Outstanding two man set!
I love this music!
A lot of wisdom in it👏
Superb exercises !!!
Great performance.
looks like the "He Zhan Quan, Combined Fighting Set 合戰拳" of
Wu Zhan Quan 五戰拳。
Nice 👍🏾
excellent set. i have a book written in chinese on yan qing quan.
Despite all the dancy movements there are a lot of good fighting and self defense applications hidden.
Mizong quan certainly has some dance like qualities, this may be due to it being a fighting system not originated in the ring or having techniques adapted and shared with weapons combat (in this I mean that movement is often preferable to standing toe to toe when dealing with multiple attackers and weapons, being able to move with lightness and then hit like a truck are some of the things that make Mizong such an interesting style to learn, and if you are going to move then moving with the agility of a dancer is a decent place to start.) It may also be due to them wanting to have some form of display aspect to the taolu. Unfortunately I think a lot of people miss the techniques within the form and only see the skipping around because the techniques are being countered before they are completed, which is one of the aims of the 2 person sets, the ability to flow into a counter as soon as you feel the technique being applied.
What a lot of people don’t know is that Lu Zhen duo (around 58 years old here) was well know for his combat ability being a Chinese Lei Tai champion and bodyguard and had a lot of fighting experience. You can see more about him here: mizongkungfuandtaichi.weebly.com/lineage.html
The truth is every move within the form has application, they are just difficult to see, and so a form like this will get lumped into the it doesn’t work, looks silly, it’s modern wushu bracket, which it certainly isn’t.
@@borgiskhan I don't know about Mizong but I just meant two man Kung Fu forms in general. Each movement is choreographed in a exaggerated manner that seems unrealistic but I find slow back and forth between partners demonstrates the potential movements without unnecessarily hurting one another. Each person taking turns on what moves could be used but hidden in a dance. What I saw was a spinning backfist into a front kick combination, back and forth arm locks and grappingl, some trapping, a nice low stomping kick to the ankle, a leg catch countered by a neck snap/twist, countered by some qinna wrist lock, and on and on and on. If you dont know what you are looking for this could be mistaken for ballet but when you look closer there are some brutal fighting going on.
@@edmondwhite6683 ...those who do not know speak. Those who do... do not.
@Christian Tate 💯 fact
Interesting. It's looks similar to bunkai in karate.
這是練習！和合氣道表演相同！
Indeed this is a performance, there are a lot of fighting techniques within the form but like many taolu to get the best from them and understand them you would need to pick them apart and work on them in different ways and with different mindsets.
Very true. The truest gold in the way of the arts goes far beyond what is seen.
Nice they slowed down
The footwork can be applied to freestyle fighting
Strictly Come Dancing!
It can be mistaken for that I'm afraid. I've uploaded a few videos explaining some of the movements, to try and help with understanding what's happening in the taolu: th-cam.com/video/raLV7pkd24c/w-d-xo.html
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Oh yeah, that'll work in a barfight for sure!
Not for you.
Let the ladies dance in peace
Oh no! A bar fighter, the UFC speaker
is that 密宗拳 ?
It's secret sect boxing (Lu Family Mizong quan) 秘宗拳
So why is it called "lost track"?
An extract from our website may explain it "It is often claimed that Mizong may date back as far as the Tang dynasty. Some say it was created in the Shaolin Temple by a monk named Lu Junyi who fused Shaolin techniques with neigong. This master is said to have become famous both for his skills and for his unwillingness to take on students. The legend says that a young man called Yan Qing joined his household as a servant and spied on Lu while he was practising, secretly studying and copying him. One day while working in the fields, Yan Qing was forced to defend himself and the other servants when they were attacked by bandits. His secret was out, but rather than scold him Lu Junyi rewarded him by taking him as his sole disciple and training him properly. Yan Qing eventually took many followers himself, which they called Yanqing Quan in his honour, but were forced to change the name to Mizong Quan or “secret sect boxing” when they considered that both he and Lu Junyi were hiding from the authorities at the famous Water Margin bandit hideout of Lian Shang. Whilst hiding there he is said to have once evaded capture by leading the government troops who pursued him through a confusing maze of false trails. This is why one branch of the family writes the art in the characters Mizong Yi, or the “art of lost track”. This name is also often offered as being an allusion to the footwork in Mizong, which is deliberately deceptive." mizongkungfuandtaichi.weebly.com/mizong-kung-fu.html
I've read this legend before. Lu Junyi is a fictional character from the novel "Water Margin". I guess the real historical reason for the name is lost to time.@@borgiskhan
Unfortunately, there is so much that is lost. We can only go back as far as Sun Tong historically, and even his story, ending up in the Shaolin monastery, sounds very similar to many martial stories, so how true it is, is anybody's guess. The Taiping institute is a great site for information taipinginstitute.com/yanqingmen-%e7%87%95%e9%9d%92%e9%97%a8/ @@zetareticulan321
Thanks!@@borgiskhan
And then comes out Xu Xiaodong (徐晓冬) and leaves them all with bloodied noses.
From what I understand, Xu Xiaodong didn't focus on leitai champions and bodyguards which the older chap here was. He did challenge those that made extreme claims, and those they are now calling fake masters. I know he took on wingchun and tai chi proponents, neither of which are known to have had great success in full contact matches in China, that being said I know wingchun and tai chi practitioners that fight well. We really shouldn't look at a form done for display purposes and judge it on the combat efficiency of the practitioners and system.
@@borgiskhan it seems to be MMA is the lithmus test for any system. I have tried to find MMA fighters who used wingchun only and found nothing. MMA is so realistic and ugly that everything looks like a mix of boxing and karate kicks and then smart jiu-jitsu grappling, you cannot discern any particular style in that mess and it's 99.99% certain there are no styles in there, that's why it's called mixed martial arts.
@@borgiskhan it seems to be MMA is the lithmus test for any system. I have tried to find MMA fighters who used wingchun only and found nothing. MMA is so realistic and ugly that everything looks like a mix of boxing and karate kicks and then smart jiu-jitsu grappling, you cannot discern any particular style in that mess and it's 99.99% certain there are no styles in there, that's why it's called mixed martial arts.
This man looks like real ip man.....
It's been said that Lu Zhen Duo could have his life made into a film, I've heard more than a few stories about his exploits against Japanese soldiers and he often entered competitions under assumed names and wasn't afraid of a fight.
舞术
我以為是一場京劇
Fancy old dancing 💃
Well, the forms here showed that the Chinese martial arts is not "for show"; it is the "modern sports rules" that destroyed the Chinese martial arts, and the Chinese martial arts schools keeping the tradition after the communist liberation had place the idea for Kungfu is just something for the stage show into the minds of the practitioners making things worst.
Traditional kungfu is art for the battle field, even though Jet Li himself has made many disgrace comments on Kungfu, but he had some finest training as well; the only thing is that his aim was to make money, quick and lot of them, so he naturally lean toward stage display, and his training for the kungfu spear actually overloads his body and caused injuries, unfortunately, the kungfu spear is for the battle field, it requires armored warrior to have real battle field experiences and set off the desire to live and fight through real life and death situation in order to off set the body tension during the training, due to the wrong picking of the direction, Jet Li was heavily injury due to over training or wrong training directions.
Each move is simply amazing, but what I've noticed is that it can't defend against strong and fast fighters.
JesusIsGOD than I guess the moves are not that amazing then.
JesusIsGOD not unless the practitioner is also a strong and fast fighter
Not a whole lot can defend against strong and fast, period...
Well, the drill isn't' meant for fighting, it's made for self defense, like a thug jumping you. That's why the drill has so many joint locks and escaping from joint locks. Fighting is basically two people squaring off, apple and oranges.
Fighting uses totally different techniques.
@jesusisgod and how exactly did you notice that? the same way you met jesus?
looks like a beautiful dance...........LOL
translates as mating dance
Is this Chinese ballet?
Jintou
2 days ago
Lol, it's true if you don't know what you're looking for it does look very dance like, but then when fighting and especially when dealing with weapons you want to be very light on your feet and agile. This form can be trained lots of different ways and broken down into it's individual techniques which are often quite brutal, but then Lu Zhen Dou who was around 60 here was an experienced fighter, being a former bodyguard for General Zhang Xue Liang and former all China lei tai champion as well as having to hold his own with the Japanese soldiers that occupied China in the 2nd Sino-Japanese War.
some components are like acting, but it's extremely obvious what a few of these applications are because i have been in some of these situations in judo. your inability to see it tells me you have no fight experience and would be easy to beat up.
@@ididdjsii6191 You're very tough and very scary. You can definitely beat anyone up on the internet whom you disagree with.
@@weiyang88 you look up a kung fu video only to come and disrespect the people in the video, when you have no martial skill
@@ididdjsii6191 i didn't look up kung fu videos, i looked up chinese ballet and this showed up. sorry if i triggered you but ballet is good for health and looks so peaceful, you should calm yourself and be more graceful like those dancers.
보법이 미종 아님.
Funny dance?
It can be mistaken for that I'm afraid. I've uploaded a few videos explaining some of the movements, to try and help with understanding what's happening in the taolu: th-cam.com/video/raLV7pkd24c/w-d-xo.html
문화혁명으로 모택동 이놈이 다 박살.
欠內功，好可惜
Slap dance. Beautifully goofy.
salakça sadece
It's like a dance by two people who desperately need protein.
They belong to the older generation when they didn't have much nutrition in those days; can't judge using modern day nutrition standard.
You mean they not fat like most people today.
@@Thoraxziod an oscar for your comment, GREAT : )
Strength is inside them, not bodybuilding. And remember that dance has power. Huo yuanjia, master of mizongyi. Defeated the Western wrestling champion. ⚠️
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