Ngl the high end arguments for Sukuna r pretty much dead after the last few chapters…We know the requirement to use the World cutting slash & we know he can’t use the world slash in his domain. Plus bro got miguel & Maki dodging his world cutting slash with Yuta & Rika (Post domain) surviving a direct hit long enough to transfer into Gojos body. It pretty much killed all the high ball arguments for it being an unavoidable universal level attack.
Yeah it doesn’t matter how hard it hits if people lower then light speed can doge it multiple times the only time it was as strong as people think it is is when he used it against Gojo and he can’t replicate that again
Miguel never dodged a world cutting slash and people are still unsure if sukuna used a world cutting slash against maki or just an enhanced slash, besides maki dodged the slash before it was fired due to her pre cog and her realizing the slash was coming when she heard sukuna chanting.
@@thyentity6295enhanced slash?wtf lol bro that's some serious gymnastics. It was a world slash and everyone basically agrees on that ....besides u I guess........... enhanced slash kml 😂😂
@@wswann34it wasn’t a world slash….anyone who has reading comprehension would know that it was just a slash he amped using chants…he was missing an arm(all 4 arms required to make the world slash)
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@@Buraq786-bm1uh Just verbatim not how black holes work. They don't pull you in at light speed, the gravitational pull is just too strong for light to escape.
@@turkeybeef6269you need to be faster than light to escape the gravitational pull Thus, the speed at which it pulls is irrelevant since anything escaping it must be faster than light as a result Kenjakus resistance to it speaks to his strength and speed - he not only reacted to it but partially tanked the spaghettification/being warped/physically morphed by the blackhole
@@yaboiplank6764not in this case bc Kenjaku literally used an anti gravity technique bro go back and read or something he literally just countered it with the opposite hax not with speed
@jadenest.0440 his use of the anti gravity technique was delayed. We see kenjaku get hit by the black hole, for a few seconds he's able to away from the black hole and move his arm, then he activates the anti gravity technuiqe, which kenjaku would need to be capable of outputting enough anti gravity to counter the black hole, not only that kenjaku is relative to tengen who surpressed the black hole meaning kenjaku indeed scales to the black hole even if not fully.
The black hole was created within the tomb of the star which is a complex barrier that has a simulated infinitely looping space as one of 1000 rooms within the barrier Plus Yuki was consciously holding back the black hole's output while Tengen and Kenjaku were actively nerfing it
Well by technicality the concept of hollow purple would either cancel out Yuki's black hole on contact or flat out erase and by pass it depending on how you determine the nature of her black hole i.e a tear in space or a crazy gravity mass. Outside of that shes not really stepping to gojo 1:1 may pose a minor challenge but thats it.
@@KitawariTsutano Limitless can only affect space on the atomic level, while a Black Hole rips into space-time itself, not just atoms. So thats already on different scale thanw aht Hollow Purple can affect. Add to that that Hollow purple has only ever been stated to cursh down mass, not anything else like erasing is just the cherry on top. Hell, even Sukuna could tank one, so its just a stronger than average attack from Gojo. And Kenjaku only surived the Black Hole by inverting his CT to affect his own body, allowing him to esacape it. There is literally nothing that scales it to Gojo. And using outlier statements that are COMPLETELY inconsistent with the story, where a small city level attack is coming from one the strongest characters in the verse is ridiculious. And the Sukuan Kashimo thing can be debunked by aim-dodging, when Sukuna is shown in the panel right before reacting to the buzzing/charge-up of the attack and not the attack in mid-air. Outspeeding essentially the trigger being pulled on an projectile scales nowhere. There are like a dozen mach speed statements. Hell, in a fanbook Gege stated Maki catching a bullet was too far in his opinion, wich just debunks this whole narrative.
@@bennogb5069 hollow purple isn't limitless, it a technique derived from it but is fundamentally different. As limitless effectively messes with space so one can never travel the distance to make contact. Hollow purple combines the aspects of red and blue creating and imaginary mass the erases all that it comes in contact with, it's never stated that it crushes matter as a function since it's a temporal in correction. And sukuna never tanked purple he's either avoided it or tried to mitigate the damage as even he's stated he'd die if he took it head on. Even the one that was blown up in the air wasn't directly fired at him and even messed him up pretty severely from the rushed discharge. And that was just effective splash damage he had to avoid last second after he tried to stop it. Now I never brought up kenjaku but his was a simple application of physics via RCT with kaori's technique he stole to reverse gravity for himself so he wasn't affected by Yuki's controlled black hole. Now it terms of raw power hollow purple is much better but it's failing grace it normally only destroys whatever is in the spheres path up to up to the spheres radius hence the damage to toji's body and behind it when fired. While Yuki's is a perfect aoe that destroys far outside of the spheres radius based on the mass density and gravity of the hole she creates. But it's still a tangible mass that can be destroyed by a strong enough attack that could overcome it's gravity and crushing power. However in all due consideration normal physics don't apply to imaginary mass that that erases effectively anything it's just about hit directly up to this point. Now I don't remember anymore trying to take it to the face nor trying to tank it but if you could point out what chapter and panel that happened I'll concede.
@@KitawariTsutano Limitless is stated to only work on the atomic level, because thats the highest that Six Eyes can observe. Its literally how the ability works and the moment someone like Sukuna used actual space-time cutting it was useless. A black hole is that but on steroids. If an attack was actual existence erasure, wich is never stated, it wouldnt matter if the attack was from far away. Look it up, there are debunks on it due to the fact Gege clarifed it crushes mass down, nothing about erasing it. Wich makes sense, cuz thats the established limit of limitless that made Gojo lose to Sukuna. Meaning its just a stronger than average attack from Gojo and it by its nature doesnt scale to Yukis black hole.
@@bennogb5069 the space cutting slash was completely different from the black hole. As a black hole bends space on its gravity field. The slash cut the space itself which was way different. And again not referring to limitless I'm referring to hollow purple, which where does gege state it crushes mass. Verbatim it combines the negative of blue and the positive of red which are gravity based techniques to create effectively a rip in space time that can be fired. That temporal rip is created and maintained by the amount of cursed energy used to generate the red and blue to create said imaginary mass which is eventually corrected by the universe itself hence it's disappearance or so it's been stated. A black hole bends space and does not destroy it, while sukunas slash cuts the space it travels rather than traveling the space to cut the target. And limitless observation abilities paired with the six eyes don't necessarily affect how hollow purple interactions with things. Not to mention red and blue could effect the properties of Yuki's black whole around gojo since they play with repulsion and attraction much like how gojo uses it to hold his place in the air. And if your stating hollow purple crushes mass how is that any different from a black hole, which is a dense mass that crushes mass into itself. Even though purples interaction show it doesn't crush mass but straight up erase it on contact hence it's detailed damage path.
@@jotaktessier7108 Seth is a known Naruto fan his main series besides DB was always Naruto he just wanted to use high ball JJK scaling to make the fight more even. Bro literally tweeted like last week that he thinks Naruto is the best written shonen manga
@@Kashimo492 jjk guys fight all of the anime in only 1 city, the said city doesnt even gets totally destroyed, they all run like ants when the meteor is falling down, and yet JJk fans are talking bullshit all the time about jjk being planetary or even universal, just think guys, please.
Since Madara Edo tensei was upgraded its hard to gauge a normal Madara but I still got him winning a 1v1 with Sukuna. Naruto verse scales Higher simply 😅. Not gonna lie I think Megkuna might do better due to mahoraga and summons. Sukuna RCT regardless is something that could gain him a win in the long term. Personally if I count Edo tensei Regen feats etc it starts to get confusing on that end😅
Doesn’t really matter since Madara would simply just dog walk Sukuna until his RCT slowed down then just kill him by bisecting him or cutting his head off. Or he could incinerate Sukuna all at once with like the Nine tails Bijju bomb since he can summon the thing and control it whenever he wants.
You just downplayed Madara in order to make this video interesting…. At least be honest with your scaling…. You left out many relevant abilities or Madara while you covered all important aspects of sukuna abilities. You forgot Madara has better regenerative abilities than all of JJK… Madara survived being cut in half by Sasuke and might guy… Madara regenerated an entire lower half of his body from nothing…… don’t forget both GOJO and YUTA died by being cut in half…. You forgot to mention how broken the limbo ability of Madara is and how they would make this fight one sided…. Limbo clones are as powerful as Madara Each limbo clone has the same abilities as the real Madara, with the added advantage of being untrackable (they cannot be seen or perceived). The shadows can attack targets, giving the appearance of an inexplicable force knocking them down, or they can defend Madara, giving the appearance of an invisible wall around him. Why did you forget about all these abilities….
I’m pretty sure they said they are just wanking the feats for sukuna and gojo to make it a closer fight for him and madara and that he probably just aim dodged instead of moving as light speed
Am I crazy or did Gojo not survive inside Ms with just rct? And you think he solos all the hokage with that same move? Not to mention we've seen Tsunade heal from being fucking bisected ( something that killed Gojo btw)?? You don't know what you're talking about and claiming the 200% purple was world buster level is proof. Like we didn't see it barely scratched the whole city of shinjuku. God this was a terrible video lmao
yah completely glazed and jerked off jjk and used very mid-low end scaling for naruto. they could’ve just made an equal stats video and said whose kits they like more😂😂
He was using simple domain too and hollow purple used at the core of the earth would destroy it since limitless works at an atomic level and blue attract and red repels so hollow purple would crush atoms
@@Buraq786-bm1uh “used at the core of the earth” this means nothing considering “planet buster” means u can destroy the entirety of the planet past its gbe. destroying the core itself alone isnt impressive
@@Buraq786-bm1uhsukuna has never shown anything close to planetary Hollow Purple doesn’t have planetary feats and isn’t big enough to destroy the planet. It most of the time singes if not just breaks things, so it’s not atomizing either Yuki’s black hole was resisted with a gravity CT and gojo doesn’t have to have high ap than that to be stronger than her, he’s just a better overall fighter and better arsenal And the true sphere was countered by mahoraga with his positive energy blade, it wasn’t overpowered. So no feats to get them into planetary. And if your using statements, you gotta use Naruto’s as well which can easily get him to uni+ So yeah no it’s not happening
I think the point is that the black hole she could make is specifically out of the ordinary for the verse. Sukuna being world cutter doesnt really make sense narratively
Very informative, there's only one thing I want to input. Yes madara would use infinite tsukiyomi on one person. It wouldn't target just sekuna obviously but when he realized how much stronger Naruto and sauske became, he instantly used it in order to try and take atleast one of them out of the fight for a easier win, implied by sauske shielding them, this would have made it 1v1 against sauske, and shortly after of course kaguya is a thing anyways, point is, I think it's implied when he started to lose, he used it on them, and it was mainly just Naruto and sauske fighting.
He would still have to react & activate the CT that fast… lmfao so yes his combat speed is SoL, arguably FTL since he was able to do said feat when massively nerfed.
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Sakuna is not fucking planet level seth wtf are you on about. Them cupcakes done went to your head. There's not even a single mountain level feat in the show bruh.
To be fair to the guy…if he didn’t highball tf out of Sukuna Madara would just give him a wedgie and take his lunch money and leave absolutely not a challenge😂
One thing people doesn't notice, most of JJK fight are in the City, when you take the manga where they show destructive explosion that can be much than city level, they left the city...just because they doesn't left the city doesn't mean they cannot destroy more than city.
@@Hcjeiwjcbecause he wasnt trying to destroy a city. Thats like saying ss2 gohan isnt solar system level just cause his final kamehameha against cell didnt destroy earth.
@@RastaPirata no he definitely was. He was just firing a full power attack at Sukuna since the city was evacuated. That was part of the point of the fight,Gojo could go all out since no one was holding him back
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I honestly see Madara sealing Mahoraga into himself (Madoraga), Sukuna sees that and copies it along with most of his other powers (HR is basically being a sage of six paths, Sukuna can even transcend to the afterlife, fly, and the senses are the same as what Sasuke and Naruto gained ) Madoraga might use genjutsu on Sukuna, but for some reason, he does not use it. If not he would either use the reaper death seal or try to seal him into his body with Mahoraga, but I could see Sukuna sensing this, and turning it against Madara sealing him into himself. (HR senses/precognition, Madara having the first Hokage showing Sukuna how to absorb sage chakra, and CE sensing would make it easy for Sukuna to plan this out.
I think the only version sukuna can debatably win against madara is the one that fought against hashirama. And taking into account it would be a sukuna with true form, megumi vessel which means he has access to ten shadows + being able to re-direct atleast 50-60% of the damage of an lethal attack to megumi's soul, his two cursed tools, madara's whole skillset knowdlege and prep time, hypothetical case scenario where he manages to start the fight catching madara offguard and landing a black flash(which would deal MASSIVE damage against a madara, even if he was using incomplete or rib cage sussano, black flash multiplier is ^2.5, and thats just insane, considering madara would also be caught off guard and no time to endure it properly) that would make sukuna operate at 120% + getting all physical statuses and cursed energy buff + total concentration + full cursed energy awareness. I logically think this is Really the only hypothetical sukuna that could defeat the WEAKEST version of madara, not including his old and kid versions of course lol.
Are the Madara meteors really light speed? Because the shinobi alliance was reacting to the meteors for a minute. Unless they just scale that high too but
19:41 not true. kenjaku said that prison realm will not open until set time comes, or person inside dies, so its still possible to move there (and possibly commit suicide), but maybe your just not aging
Why is this a video. Even Sukuna at his most glazed get blitzed one shot by even a low balled Madara(assuming it’s ten tails Madara) and then just gets blitzed one shot by Madara in his weakest forms. Like Edo Madara without the Sharingan almost cant lose to Sukuna because Sukuna can not consistently attack the soul. For those who argue against this I need to say that Sukuna being able to attack the soul would give him a form of durability negation with all of his attacks which he clearly doesn’t have considering characters like Yuta don’t instantly get one shot by him. I do believe Sukuna can attack the soul but it’s not his normal mode of attack or his first instinct(it’s not passive like with Yuji is what I’m saying). He’d only start doing that to Edo Madara after all his other attacks don’t work.
Ok, speed scaling in Naruto is odd, such as when team 7 faught Zabuza and Haku, Haku being said to travel at light speed, or Sauske vs. Itachi said the Kirin is light speed, Itachi was sick and injured but idk if he would get hit by a light speed attack that kid Sauske and Naruto could react and dodge, so taking that route isn’t accurate like you said, but it’s also been calculated that Raikage A, is 70-75 FTL, not including the Stone Hokages levitation, Raikage A, could prob alone take Sukana
This video is a little strange. And by the looks of it Madara would definitely need Ten Tails power to compete with that Sukuna humanoid. Given all the weird shit he can do, in a fight.
Haven’t watched but common sense tells me that Madara outscales Sukuna’s entire verse in strength speed etc. Madara at the end is doing planetary feats and is pseudo immortal lol good luck Sukuna 😂
From what Im seeing in the manga. hell nah, if we talking speed nah sukuna wasnt all that, he was slower than gojo, if it were straight hands, gojo would win 10/10 times, he was superior without a doubt. Kashimo was not even 5x the speed of light, where tf did that come from, he was at max speed of light, actually none of them are speed of light. Maki is one of the fastest and shes nowhere near speed of light. also the world slashing strikes are win cons but id argue madara would see those attacks and that uchiha reflection could probably reflect it if we do equalization. Also, he wouldnt adapt infinitly, he needs binding vows for that and that limits you the more you use it. mahoraga would go down in one susanoo slash, heck bloody limbo would probably take it out. Remember he had limbo before he became tentails, its how he knocked the tail beast on their asses and no one knew why. sukuna wouldnt be able to even see limbo. He'd get decked with no way of fighting back and madara can swap out with those, so even if world cutting slash does get shot he could swap out. The cleave and dismantle also cant hurt the limbo as they exist on a different plane with only six paths attacks that naruto did hurting them. how tf does sukuna win. bra there is no way, he would even beat the 5 kage, that dismatling jutsu and with ay and super lightweight boulder jutsu would take him tf out. no to mention the muzukage could also present opportunities for sukuna not to rest as she can melt his ass with her vapour style, without susanoo that move is straight gg if you caught in it. Beat the 5 kage my ass. I usually agree with yalls take but infinite speed bwahahahahahahahaha gojo infitite speed shii in that case ishikis rods move at infinite speed or near it cause it comes wooshing out of a dimension where no time exist and we all know thats not true.
Everything you said is valid brother…… I hate how these anime TH-camrs downplay a character and gives buff or highball another character to make a video interesting…. It’s so stupid because they literally forget about many other important things that contradicts what they’re saying….. We saw maki dodge the world cutting slash if she could dodge that attack then Madara would most certainly dodge that attack also…… And I don’t know why they add adaptations sh*t… Madara would one shot mahoraga….. mahoraga might just die from being collateral damage 🤣….. If we are talking about Madara with limbo clones then it’s not even a contest…. That’s the same as fighting against 5 Madara’s with equal strengths as mentioned in the manga plus you can’t see, perceive or interact with those limbo clones but the limbo clones can attack you….. This fight is basically a god fighting a child….
The wank for both sides is crazy... its a multi continental deathless madara with pocket dimension hax vs some city level dude who can cut stuff... madara could easily seal him in chibaku tensei, not to mention no bruh sakuna isn't doomsday lol. Put the crack rick down bud.
Still living under a rock ,are you?Tentails itself was stated living planet itself.Base alive madara is stronger than that.Let alone rinegan madara ,Or or tentails madara who are thousands if not millions of times above that.Kaguya outright stated to be capable to create and destroy entire dimensions star systems and own time space in it.Seriously where multicontinental lowball is coming from.
Madara Limbo clone nearly knocked out each tailed beast. Gojo blackflash briefly knocked out Sukuna. Madara mid diff only because Mahoraga can back Sukuna up. Limbo, genjutsu, soul rip, sage mode & perfect susanoo would make this a low - mid diff imo
Also if for some reason sukuna does have mahoraga whats stopping madara from sealing him and then boom sukuna cant learn from mahoragas adaptation like im confused here
Do they not know base 10 tails created the universe and mardara became the 10 tails and that's before the buff of the God tree which the ten tails is only a fragment of its power (jjk gets solo)❤❤❤
Zombie man from one punch man vs sukuna. I know sukuna is stronger and has more abilities but I think zombie man would be able to regen anything sukuna can throw at him and outlast him.
One of the most glazed analysis. The glazing is one sided but he knows SUKUNA has NO CHANCE. And still tried to make it close making this whole video funny and lose credibility
People for the love of god he takes the highest point of scaling for clearly the weakest opponent, then makes a video to be more interesting. everyone knows jjk dont match with naruto, cross verus is just for fun smh 😮💨
Seth, youre my favorite TH-camr but this video is just wrong 💀 The jjk glaze is crazy , you flipflop from points you've made in your previous videos. Since when is electromagnetic wave light speed? Yuki doesn't scale to the black hole so scaling characters above that makes no sense. Mahoraga is NOT surviving an asteroid 💀
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Bro pls reupload your old Dbs and Boruto reviews 😭
Can you re upload your batman video seth?
Like someone above me said pls upload your old DBS vids
Ngl the high end arguments for Sukuna r pretty much dead after the last few chapters…We know the requirement to use the World cutting slash & we know he can’t use the world slash in his domain.
Plus bro got miguel & Maki dodging his world cutting slash with Yuta & Rika (Post domain) surviving a direct hit long enough to transfer into Gojos body. It pretty much killed all the high ball arguments for it being an unavoidable universal level attack.
Yeah it doesn’t matter how hard it hits if people lower then light speed can doge it multiple times the only time it was as strong as people think it is is when he used it against Gojo and he can’t replicate that again
@@mandothemandalorian2392 yeah these arguments are outdated
Miguel never dodged a world cutting slash and people are still unsure if sukuna used a world cutting slash against maki or just an enhanced slash, besides maki dodged the slash before it was fired due to her pre cog and her realizing the slash was coming when she heard sukuna chanting.
@@thyentity6295enhanced slash?wtf lol bro that's some serious gymnastics. It was a world slash and everyone basically agrees on that ....besides u I guess........... enhanced slash kml 😂😂
@@wswann34it wasn’t a world slash….anyone who has reading comprehension would know that it was just a slash he amped using chants…he was missing an arm(all 4 arms required to make the world slash)
the video should be called how long can sukuna last against madara clones susanoos
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Easily. Domain expansion, all dead
Kenjaku only survived the black hole due to the anti-gravity technique from one of the bodies he's had throughout the centuries.
He needed to be fast enough to react to activate his technique and that would make him black hole level
@@Buraq786-bm1uh Just verbatim not how black holes work. They don't pull you in at light speed, the gravitational pull is just too strong for light to escape.
@@turkeybeef6269you need to be faster than light to escape the gravitational pull
Thus, the speed at which it pulls is irrelevant since anything escaping it must be faster than light as a result
Kenjakus resistance to it speaks to his strength and speed - he not only reacted to it but partially tanked the spaghettification/being warped/physically morphed by the blackhole
@@yaboiplank6764not in this case bc Kenjaku literally used an anti gravity technique bro go back and read or something he literally just countered it with the opposite hax not with speed
@jadenest.0440 his use of the anti gravity technique was delayed. We see kenjaku get hit by the black hole, for a few seconds he's able to away from the black hole and move his arm, then he activates the anti gravity technuiqe, which kenjaku would need to be capable of outputting enough anti gravity to counter the black hole, not only that kenjaku is relative to tengen who surpressed the black hole meaning kenjaku indeed scales to the black hole even if not fully.
We’ve seen sakunas new cleave get dodged already. It’s not instant at all. The glaze is crazy
theres 2 different ones and maki dodged it cause she has pre cog
@@Kashimo492 i mean do you know that thing called "Sharingan" if not sharingan has pre cognition as basis 🤡
These authors dont actually know how black holes even work. If there was an actual black hole as an attack, the earth would gone in an instant.
If naruto was actually planetary then the planet would be destroyed
@@Kashimo492that’s not how it works😂
@@Kashimo492why would naruto destroy his own planet are you dumb
@@jrmutsunge7718 my man thinks you can call your self planetary only when you blow up a planet lol
The black hole was created within the tomb of the star which is a complex barrier that has a simulated infinitely looping space as one of 1000 rooms within the barrier
Plus Yuki was consciously holding back the black hole's output while Tengen and Kenjaku were actively nerfing it
Hydrogen bomb versus coughing baby
no, 500 supernovas vs unborn fetus.
The JJK glazing is crazy. All those feats can be debunked and saying Gojo is stronger than Yukis Black hole is crazy
Well by technicality the concept of hollow purple would either cancel out Yuki's black hole on contact or flat out erase and by pass it depending on how you determine the nature of her black hole i.e a tear in space or a crazy gravity mass. Outside of that shes not really stepping to gojo 1:1 may pose a minor challenge but thats it.
@@KitawariTsutano Limitless can only affect space on the atomic level, while a Black Hole rips into space-time itself, not just atoms.
So thats already on different scale thanw aht Hollow Purple can affect.
Add to that that Hollow purple has only ever been stated to cursh down mass, not anything else like erasing is just the cherry on top.
Hell, even Sukuna could tank one, so its just a stronger than average attack from Gojo.
And Kenjaku only surived the Black Hole by inverting his CT to affect his own body, allowing him to esacape it.
There is literally nothing that scales it to Gojo.
And using outlier statements that are COMPLETELY inconsistent with the story, where a small city level attack is coming from one the strongest characters in the verse is ridiculious.
And the Sukuan Kashimo thing can be debunked by aim-dodging, when Sukuna is shown in the panel right before reacting to the buzzing/charge-up of the attack and not the attack in mid-air.
Outspeeding essentially the trigger being pulled on an projectile scales nowhere.
There are like a dozen mach speed statements.
Hell, in a fanbook Gege stated Maki catching a bullet was too far in his opinion, wich just debunks this whole narrative.
@@bennogb5069 hollow purple isn't limitless, it a technique derived from it but is fundamentally different. As limitless effectively messes with space so one can never travel the distance to make contact. Hollow purple combines the aspects of red and blue creating and imaginary mass the erases all that it comes in contact with, it's never stated that it crushes matter as a function since it's a temporal in correction.
And sukuna never tanked purple he's either avoided it or tried to mitigate the damage as even he's stated he'd die if he took it head on. Even the one that was blown up in the air wasn't directly fired at him and even messed him up pretty severely from the rushed discharge. And that was just effective splash damage he had to avoid last second after he tried to stop it.
Now I never brought up kenjaku but his was a simple application of physics via RCT with kaori's technique he stole to reverse gravity for himself so he wasn't affected by Yuki's controlled black hole.
Now it terms of raw power hollow purple is much better but it's failing grace it normally only destroys whatever is in the spheres path up to up to the spheres radius hence the damage to toji's body and behind it when fired. While Yuki's is a perfect aoe that destroys far outside of the spheres radius based on the mass density and gravity of the hole she creates. But it's still a tangible mass that can be destroyed by a strong enough attack that could overcome it's gravity and crushing power.
However in all due consideration normal physics don't apply to imaginary mass that that erases effectively anything it's just about hit directly up to this point. Now I don't remember anymore trying to take it to the face nor trying to tank it but if you could point out what chapter and panel that happened I'll concede.
@@KitawariTsutano Limitless is stated to only work on the atomic level, because thats the highest that Six Eyes can observe. Its literally how the ability works and the moment someone like Sukuna used actual space-time cutting it was useless.
A black hole is that but on steroids.
If an attack was actual existence erasure, wich is never stated, it wouldnt matter if the attack was from far away.
Look it up, there are debunks on it due to the fact Gege clarifed it crushes mass down, nothing about erasing it.
Wich makes sense, cuz thats the established limit of limitless that made Gojo lose to Sukuna.
Meaning its just a stronger than average attack from Gojo and it by its nature doesnt scale to Yukis black hole.
@@bennogb5069 the space cutting slash was completely different from the black hole. As a black hole bends space on its gravity field. The slash cut the space itself which was way different. And again not referring to limitless I'm referring to hollow purple, which where does gege state it crushes mass. Verbatim it combines the negative of blue and the positive of red which are gravity based techniques to create effectively a rip in space time that can be fired. That temporal rip is created and maintained by the amount of cursed energy used to generate the red and blue to create said imaginary mass which is eventually corrected by the universe itself hence it's disappearance or so it's been stated.
A black hole bends space and does not destroy it, while sukunas slash cuts the space it travels rather than traveling the space to cut the target. And limitless observation abilities paired with the six eyes don't necessarily affect how hollow purple interactions with things. Not to mention red and blue could effect the properties of Yuki's black whole around gojo since they play with repulsion and attraction much like how gojo uses it to hold his place in the air.
And if your stating hollow purple crushes mass how is that any different from a black hole, which is a dense mass that crushes mass into itself. Even though purples interaction show it doesn't crush mass but straight up erase it on contact hence it's detailed damage path.
the jjk glaze is strong with this one
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Yes😂
JJK has to be glazed or else it wouldn’t be a video
@@MILDMONSTER1234he don’t glaze madara tho cause he is a jjk fan😂
@@jotaktessier7108 Seth is a known Naruto fan his main series besides DB was always Naruto he just wanted to use high ball JJK scaling to make the fight more even. Bro literally tweeted like last week that he thinks Naruto is the best written shonen manga
Madara the most goated villian in history vs Sukuna the most goated villian of the modern era 👍
Aizen >
Nah
Yes@@ChillCifer
Madara is also very much a modern villain
Serious glaze for sukuna
Wtf is this JJK scaling.
this is not even crazy??? You can easily get jjk to planetary and using statements you can get them to uni with WCS
@@Kashimo492it is crazy💀 yukis black hole is a move no one can recreate not anyone in the show including yuki scales to it
@@Kashimo492 jjk guys fight all of the anime in only 1 city, the said city doesnt even gets totally destroyed, they all run like ants when the meteor is falling down, and yet JJk fans are talking bullshit all the time about jjk being planetary or even universal, just think guys, please.
@@leo83258 this is the same as saying dragon ball characters aren’t solar system cause we didn’t see them do it AP and DC are different
@@Kashimo492 how we didn't see them destroying planets? Frieza exists and destroy planets with a single finger
So jjk went from city lvl to apparently being able to create universes?? Right.
Madara can create universe now.
Only in highball scale
There normal scale still cap at City->Country level
@@nguyenlightduy7020 Best madara feat is a city level metor and cutting mountains
@@Kashimo492bros a new gen
@@Kashimo492 lmfao
That jutjusu run down was putting me to sleep.
it really was lmaoo no hate on the guy tho not his fault
Same
For me it was the other way around
Since Madara Edo tensei was upgraded its hard to gauge a normal Madara but I still got him winning a 1v1 with Sukuna. Naruto verse scales Higher simply 😅. Not gonna lie I think Megkuna might do better due to mahoraga and summons. Sukuna RCT regardless is something that could gain him a win in the long term. Personally if I count Edo tensei Regen feats etc it starts to get confusing on that end😅
Doesn’t really matter since Madara would simply just dog walk Sukuna until his RCT slowed down then just kill him by bisecting him or cutting his head off. Or he could incinerate Sukuna all at once with like the Nine tails Bijju bomb since he can summon the thing and control it whenever he wants.
Well u just take the Madara when he fought hashirama and just exclude the 9 tails and give him a rinnegan
Profile pic caught me off guard. 😂
Sukunas first world cut slash blitz was his first and last with the binding wow.
Now he have to form the four hand signs and full incantation.
What in the jjk glaze😂
You just downplayed Madara in order to make this video interesting….
At least be honest with your scaling….
You left out many relevant abilities or Madara while you covered all important aspects of sukuna abilities.
You forgot Madara has better regenerative abilities than all of JJK… Madara survived being cut in half by Sasuke and might guy… Madara regenerated an entire lower half of his body from nothing…… don’t forget both GOJO and YUTA died by being cut in half….
You forgot to mention how broken the limbo ability of Madara is and how they would make this fight one sided…. Limbo clones are as powerful as Madara
Each limbo clone has the same abilities as the real Madara, with the added advantage of being untrackable (they cannot be seen or perceived). The shadows can attack targets, giving the appearance of an inexplicable force knocking them down, or they can defend Madara, giving the appearance of an invisible wall around him.
Why did you forget about all these abilities….
didn't madara lose to zetsu....
@@Kashimo492 No bro, Zetsu betrayed Madara when he was using crystal that would bring peace.
Man this is why I hate yt scalers LMAOOO. Gojo can’t create no damn universe and Sukuna ain’t close to light speed ever
I’m pretty sure they said they are just wanking the feats for sukuna and gojo to make it a closer fight for him and madara and that he probably just aim dodged instead of moving as light speed
@Telkkinzzz-art the point is that naruto low ball vs jjk mega wank still isn't close
the glaze is crazy, you’re showing edo madara, how exactly is Sakuna gonna damage him
Am I crazy or did Gojo not survive inside Ms with just rct? And you think he solos all the hokage with that same move? Not to mention we've seen Tsunade heal from being fucking bisected ( something that killed Gojo btw)?? You don't know what you're talking about and claiming the 200% purple was world buster level is proof. Like we didn't see it barely scratched the whole city of shinjuku. God this was a terrible video lmao
yah completely glazed and jerked off jjk and used very mid-low end scaling for naruto. they could’ve just made an equal stats video and said whose kits they like more😂😂
He was using simple domain too and hollow purple used at the core of the earth would destroy it since limitless works at an atomic level and blue attract and red repels so hollow purple would crush atoms
@@Buraq786-bm1uh “used at the core of the earth” this means nothing considering “planet buster” means u can destroy the entirety of the planet past its gbe. destroying the core itself alone isnt impressive
@@Buraq786-bm1uhsukuna has never shown anything close to planetary
Hollow Purple doesn’t have planetary feats and isn’t big enough to destroy the planet. It most of the time singes if not just breaks things, so it’s not atomizing either
Yuki’s black hole was resisted with a gravity CT and gojo doesn’t have to have high ap than that to be stronger than her, he’s just a better overall fighter and better arsenal
And the true sphere was countered by mahoraga with his positive energy blade, it wasn’t overpowered. So no feats to get them into planetary. And if your using statements, you gotta use Naruto’s as well which can easily get him to uni+
So yeah no it’s not happening
I finally get to watch this
I think the point is that the black hole she could make is specifically out of the ordinary for the verse. Sukuna being world cutter doesnt really make sense narratively
How is it out of ordinary ?
@@Buraq786-bm1uh cause no one else can do it, and it's a completely natural thing that happens when some stars die, so, yeah.
Sukuna is also out of the ordinary
Sukuna is not even stronger than part 1 naruto
yeah, kinda true.
let’s go we got it back
Ngl this was an incredibly high balled jjk verse sukuna vs madara
NOT EVEN SUKUNA GLAZING, THE JJK GLAZING IS CRAZY!!!!!
thx
i was wondering where the video went
What jutsu do people think would win in a clash between particle style and the various tailed beasts bijuu bombs 🤔
Particle style if it was the same size
Very informative, there's only one thing I want to input. Yes madara would use infinite tsukiyomi on one person.
It wouldn't target just sekuna obviously but when he realized how much stronger Naruto and sauske became, he instantly used it in order to try and take atleast one of them out of the fight for a easier win, implied by sauske shielding them, this would have made it 1v1 against sauske, and shortly after of course kaguya is a thing anyways, point is, I think it's implied when he started to lose, he used it on them, and it was mainly just Naruto and sauske fighting.
12:52 ??? Kenjaku didnt out run at the speed of light.. he used a anti gravity technique
😂Talk about wank
He would still have to react & activate the CT that fast… lmfao so yes his combat speed is SoL, arguably FTL since he was able to do said feat when massively nerfed.
@@huntershurley4331You mean reaction?
@@huntershurley4331 the feat still isnt sol
@@yudasrain4774 fax
Didn't realize I was making a visit to Krispy Kreme instead of watching a vs video.
I have the bell on and have been subscribed since you were talking about water tower theory for db4. I was even in the multi-day broly debate call as a spectator, for some reason I stopped getting notifications with the bell tho. Don't be afraid to remind the subs to hit that beautiful bell brother and get that bag
*subscribed to main, I've been subbed to the side channels since 2019
The reason Kenjaku escaped was due to him manipulating gravity before being properly affected.
Why why why are y'all STILL confusing cleave with dismantle????? smfh
This is a reupload
@@gbemadethis isn’t the first time they’ve done this, other people are also constantly mistaking the 2
Sup tyki mikk
@@CertainlyCynical it's very difficult to tell the difference unless we're outright told.
Oh, a sharingan havent seen that since the Hien era, heres my uchiha killing technique.
I hope the batman analysis one gets uploaded here
The Glaze of jjk is crazy here. No cap, it wouldn't be close.
We haven't even seen jjk characters be able to destroy a city yet its all inconsistent statements that dont make sense
Sakuna is not fucking planet level seth wtf are you on about. Them cupcakes done went to your head. There's not even a single mountain level feat in the show bruh.
Besides the "blackhole" no one in jjk can really do much to madara. Not to mention madara can erase sukuna with the truth seeking orbs
To be fair to the guy…if he didn’t highball tf out of Sukuna Madara would just give him a wedgie and take his lunch money and leave absolutely not a challenge😂
One thing people doesn't notice, most of JJK fight are in the City, when you take the manga where they show destructive explosion that can be much than city level, they left the city...just because they doesn't left the city doesn't mean they cannot destroy more than city.
Gojo’s 200% hollow purple couldn’t destroy a city
@@Hcjeiwjcbecause he wasnt trying to destroy a city.
Thats like saying ss2 gohan isnt solar system level just cause his final kamehameha against cell didnt destroy earth.
@@RastaPirata no he definitely was. He was just firing a full power attack at Sukuna since the city was evacuated. That was part of the point of the fight,Gojo could go all out since no one was holding him back
@@Hcjeiwjc there was a barrier around the the technique, it wasn't a expanding attack, it was a precise attack, which travel through the city.
@@dalcedarry8863 what do you mean a barrier. The point of hollow purple is it is a focused attack
The Master... The Sensei... The Sage of Breakdowns is on his 💩!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
why does bro sound like "🤓☝" (like literally)
Can you do a video explaining Beerus vs Aizen EoS?
Like, how Beerus can deal with KS and how Hogioku can deal with Hakai.
*Please, like is you want Seth doing a video about this*
Seth knew he didn't cook with this one so he had to send it to the Limbo realm.
W re-upload
The title should be high ball sukuna vs low ball madara
Why does this video exist? What’s the point?
The video should've been called "Madara vs Mahoraga".
Note: one massive biju bomb and mahoraga is gone, same with purple.
I wanted a fight and got nothing it's one of those vids
Seth nice ti have you back bro. And aldo post sime videos on avatar aang abd Korra cus the downplay involving avatar is too much.
I honestly see Madara sealing Mahoraga into himself (Madoraga), Sukuna sees that and copies it along with most of his other powers (HR is basically being a sage of six paths, Sukuna can even transcend to the afterlife, fly, and the senses are the same as what Sasuke and Naruto gained )
Madoraga might use genjutsu on Sukuna, but for some reason, he does not use it. If not he would either use the reaper death seal or try to seal him into his body with Mahoraga, but I could see Sukuna sensing this, and turning it against Madara sealing him into himself. (HR senses/precognition, Madara having the first Hokage showing Sukuna how to absorb sage chakra, and CE sensing would make it easy for Sukuna to plan this out.
Bro is delusianal
SIX/SETH BEST IN THE GAME HANDS DOWN
Jogo was conscious during gojos domain madras genjutsu isn’t something sakuna can be “Conscious” of yk?
I think the only version sukuna can debatably win against madara is the one that fought against hashirama.
And taking into account it would be a sukuna with true form, megumi vessel which means he has access to ten shadows + being able to re-direct atleast 50-60% of the damage of an lethal attack to megumi's soul, his two cursed tools, madara's whole skillset knowdlege and prep time, hypothetical case scenario where he manages to start the fight catching madara offguard and landing a black flash(which would deal MASSIVE damage against a madara, even if he was using incomplete or rib cage sussano, black flash multiplier is ^2.5, and thats just insane, considering madara would also be caught off guard and no time to endure it properly) that would make sukuna operate at 120% + getting all physical statuses and cursed energy buff + total concentration + full cursed energy awareness.
I logically think this is Really the only hypothetical sukuna that could defeat the WEAKEST version of madara, not including his old and kid versions of course lol.
UH OH THE FEATHERS FINNA BE RUFFLED!
Thank you to reput the video
Sukuna loses, badly.
Are the Madara meteors really light speed? Because the shinobi alliance was reacting to the meteors for a minute. Unless they just scale that high too but
Kid kakashi as low jonin has relativistic speed, those shinobi can be fast enough to presive it
Hakus needles were said to move light speed in the data books and kid Naruto and sasuke were dodging them
@@Synco41205 raikage literally has the speed of teleportation and naruto dodged it idk why mfs keep sleepin on the speed feats
@@Synco41205 it was stated Kaku was moving at lightspeed, not the needles (as far as I know) but they were 100% moving lightspeed.
Nigga what?
Watching a meteor fall towards you is reacting?
I have a better title:
"How long would Sukuna survive against Madara?"
19:41 not true. kenjaku said that prison realm will not open until set time comes, or person inside dies, so its still possible to move there (and possibly commit suicide), but maybe your just not aging
cannot agree, edo madara>full power sukuna
Madara dog walks here. Like it’s so not close.
that's a one sided booty cheeks clapping, madara slams lol.
Good vid ♥
W video!
Why was this deleted?
Sukuna literally would've lost if he wasn't using Megumi to avoid infinity & use Mahoraga and his 9 animal pals.
Six and Seth are BACK!!!! LETS GOOOOOO
Did Miguel not dodge them?
Why is this a video. Even Sukuna at his most glazed get blitzed one shot by even a low balled Madara(assuming it’s ten tails Madara) and then just gets blitzed one shot by Madara in his weakest forms. Like Edo Madara without the Sharingan almost cant lose to Sukuna because Sukuna can not consistently attack the soul. For those who argue against this I need to say that Sukuna being able to attack the soul would give him a form of durability negation with all of his attacks which he clearly doesn’t have considering characters like Yuta don’t instantly get one shot by him. I do believe Sukuna can attack the soul but it’s not his normal mode of attack or his first instinct(it’s not passive like with Yuji is what I’m saying). He’d only start doing that to Edo Madara after all his other attacks don’t work.
Reverse cursed can even heal soul with positive energy.Theres no proof that madara can heal soul
The Gojo downplay was crazy 😔
downplay, he was SEVERELY INCREASING GOJO'S STRENGTH.
Ok, speed scaling in Naruto is odd, such as when team 7 faught Zabuza and Haku, Haku being said to travel at light speed, or Sauske vs. Itachi said the Kirin is light speed, Itachi was sick and injured but idk if he would get hit by a light speed attack that kid Sauske and Naruto could react and dodge, so taking that route isn’t accurate like you said, but it’s also been calculated that Raikage A, is 70-75 FTL, not including the Stone Hokages levitation, Raikage A, could prob alone take Sukana
😂😂facts
This video is a little strange. And by the looks of it Madara would definitely need Ten Tails power to compete with that Sukuna humanoid. Given all the weird shit he can do, in a fight.
Haven’t watched but common sense tells me that Madara outscales Sukuna’s entire verse in strength speed etc. Madara at the end is doing planetary feats and is pseudo immortal lol good luck Sukuna 😂
More pls
From what Im seeing in the manga. hell nah, if we talking speed nah sukuna wasnt all that, he was slower than gojo, if it were straight hands, gojo would win 10/10 times, he was superior without a doubt. Kashimo was not even 5x the speed of light, where tf did that come from, he was at max speed of light, actually none of them are speed of light. Maki is one of the fastest and shes nowhere near speed of light. also the world slashing strikes are win cons but id argue madara would see those attacks and that uchiha reflection could probably reflect it if we do equalization. Also, he wouldnt adapt infinitly, he needs binding vows for that and that limits you the more you use it. mahoraga would go down in one susanoo slash, heck bloody limbo would probably take it out. Remember he had limbo before he became tentails, its how he knocked the tail beast on their asses and no one knew why. sukuna wouldnt be able to even see limbo. He'd get decked with no way of fighting back and madara can swap out with those, so even if world cutting slash does get shot he could swap out. The cleave and dismantle also cant hurt the limbo as they exist on a different plane with only six paths attacks that naruto did hurting them. how tf does sukuna win. bra there is no way, he would even beat the 5 kage, that dismatling jutsu and with ay and super lightweight boulder jutsu would take him tf out. no to mention the muzukage could also present opportunities for sukuna not to rest as she can melt his ass with her vapour style, without susanoo that move is straight gg if you caught in it. Beat the 5 kage my ass. I usually agree with yalls take but infinite speed bwahahahahahahahaha gojo infitite speed shii in that case ishikis rods move at infinite speed or near it cause it comes wooshing out of a dimension where no time exist and we all know thats not true.
Everything you said is valid brother……
I hate how these anime TH-camrs downplay a character and gives buff or highball another character to make a video interesting…. It’s so stupid because they literally forget about many other important things that contradicts what they’re saying…..
We saw maki dodge the world cutting slash if she could dodge that attack then Madara would most certainly dodge that attack also……
And I don’t know why they add adaptations sh*t… Madara would one shot mahoraga….. mahoraga might just die from being collateral damage 🤣…..
If we are talking about Madara with limbo clones then it’s not even a contest…. That’s the same as fighting against 5 Madara’s with equal strengths as mentioned in the manga plus you can’t see, perceive or interact with those limbo clones but the limbo clones can attack you…..
This fight is basically a god fighting a child….
sukuna doesnt survive the kages he gegts turned into dust by ohnoki
The wank for both sides is crazy... its a multi continental deathless madara with pocket dimension hax vs some city level dude who can cut stuff... madara could easily seal him in chibaku tensei, not to mention no bruh sakuna isn't doomsday lol. Put the crack rick down bud.
Still living under a rock ,are you?Tentails itself was stated living planet itself.Base alive madara is stronger than that.Let alone rinegan madara ,Or or tentails madara who are thousands if not millions of times above that.Kaguya outright stated to be capable to create and destroy entire dimensions star systems and own time space in it.Seriously where multicontinental lowball is coming from.
@@om9959 cope and seethe I guess. Sensical scaling is dead these days it's either disgusting wank or hideous downplay everywhere
The quick answer is
Sukuna vs Madara
is NOT even slightly close Madara absolutely dog walks Sukuna.
Madara Limbo clone nearly knocked out each tailed beast. Gojo blackflash briefly knocked out Sukuna. Madara mid diff only because Mahoraga can back Sukuna up. Limbo, genjutsu, soul rip, sage mode & perfect susanoo would make this a low - mid diff imo
Limbo soul rip gg
The comment i was looking for lol
is bro saying madara losses
Yall do realize that this is Madara the one the only way to kill him was plotted treachery 🤦🏽♂️
This is honestly the worse 1v1 analysis, the glaze on jjk is crazy. I LOVE JJK but this , this is just bootlicking
Also if for some reason sukuna does have mahoraga whats stopping madara from sealing him and then boom sukuna cant learn from mahoragas adaptation like im confused here
Holy W
Do they not know base 10 tails created the universe and mardara became the 10 tails and that's before the buff of the God tree which the ten tails is only a fragment of its power (jjk gets solo)❤❤❤
Sweet
W pfp
Zombie man from one punch man vs sukuna. I know sukuna is stronger and has more abilities but I think zombie man would be able to regen anything sukuna can throw at him and outlast him.
One of the most glazed analysis.
The glazing is one sided but he knows SUKUNA has NO CHANCE.
And still tried to make it close making this whole video funny and lose credibility
Madara: among the greatest villians in anime, versus a genuine skibidi toilet victim. Wallahi.
People for the love of god he takes the highest point of scaling for clearly the weakest opponent, then makes a video to be more interesting. everyone knows jjk dont match with naruto, cross verus is just for fun smh 😮💨
A single limbo clone and sukuna is in the purelands
How the duck does sakuna stand a chance v madara if toji basically gets no diffed by muriem???
What's this channel 👀
the more I hear about JJK, the less I care to ever get into it
Honestly, it's fallen off big time a year ago I'd recommend it, but it's become asspull central now
It's so bad
I used to be a fan
F for the pfp
Seth, youre my favorite TH-camr but this video is just wrong 💀
The jjk glaze is crazy , you flipflop from points you've made in your previous videos. Since when is electromagnetic wave light speed? Yuki doesn't scale to the black hole so scaling characters above that makes no sense. Mahoraga is NOT surviving an asteroid 💀