AVS-36: The First Soviet Infantry Battle Rifle

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  • The AVS-36 was the first self-loading rifle adopted by the Soviet Union to be a standard infantry rifle, and it was not just semiautomatic, but also capable of fully automatic fire. Designed by Sergei Simonov over the course of about ten years, it would only last a short time in service before being replaced by the Tokarev SVT-38 and then SVT-40.
    The AVS-36 uses a short stroke gas piston system that remains popular to this day, and a quite unusual locking system incorporating two asymmetrical locking flaps and a vertically traveling locking block. It is striker fired, with semi and full auto selector positions and a 15-round detachable magazine (plus stripper clip guide). In total, 65,800 were made between 1934 and 1940, with true mass production beginning in 1937.
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  • @djwoody1649
    @djwoody1649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +858

    "Names you've never heard of, like Resnov." Oohhhh we've all heard of him.

    • @forrestclark6069
      @forrestclark6069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      my name... is VICTOR REZNOV

    • @willh.7755
      @willh.7755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      And I will have my REVENGE

    • @alucardvigilatedismas2868
      @alucardvigilatedismas2868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      The numbers Mason, what do they mean!?

    • @ImYourIchigo
      @ImYourIchigo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@alucardvigilatedismas2868 that would be Hudson doing Math

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I love how his name translates to "massacre" and we first meet him in the fountain. Just brilliant in my opinion.

  • @rad666a
    @rad666a 5 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    I would just like to say thank you to the owners of these firearms for allowing Ian to dismantle them for our viewing pleasure.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Me too, but it might add value to the weapon...As seen on Forgotten Weapons.

    • @acewolfgang276
      @acewolfgang276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Mocking goat that's because giving Ian a gun is like giving jesus one of your stuff. It makes it worth 10x more.

    • @AllAboutMiims
      @AllAboutMiims 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The real MVP (apart from Ian) because letting someone take apart your *extremely rare & valuable* gun, is not something you don't worry over.

    • @borisdorofeev5602
      @borisdorofeev5602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's like letting your hot wife strip in front of a camera.

    • @hasanfoyejul5500
      @hasanfoyejul5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@acewolfgang276 with all due respect dear "no one should call someone JESUS ! ধন্যবাদ...
      thanks

  • @PhotoshopShopCS6
    @PhotoshopShopCS6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1729

    If you knocked hard enough at the wood, you could still hear the "Uraaaaaa" in it.

    • @seventhsonofaseventhson.6559
      @seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      No, you hear the screams of the starving soviet civilians when when you tap this rifle.

    • @Mr1234d
      @Mr1234d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      William Randall r/wooosh

    • @BigBoiBleu
      @BigBoiBleu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +259

      @@seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 I hear homeless veterans when I tap an AR15

    • @Foolishman1776
      @Foolishman1776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Urod?

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Why with all the political stuff? Geez this video is about a firearm it's design and operation.

  • @karas3248
    @karas3248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +819

    You can see the roots of the sks in that rifle

    • @charaznable2379
      @charaznable2379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      kazotzky kicks with Samozaryadny Karabin sistemy Simonova, 1945.Embracing m59 cross armed while bayonet extended .

    • @rifles_up2263
      @rifles_up2263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Definitely!!

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      If you forget that SKS is just scaled down PTRS... yes, there some similarities. It also has barrel, trigger and stock for example:P

    • @wewd
      @wewd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@TheArklyte Simonov made all those rifles, so the similarity is inherent in them as in Kalashnikov's many similar designs.

    • @gunnerr8476
      @gunnerr8476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Same designer made the SKS

  • @den2k885
    @den2k885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    This gun is brilliant. It was a select fire full powered battle rifle holding 15 rounds - basically the M14 25 years early. It is surprisingly easy to field strip without tools, better than some modern guns.
    This is truly amazing.

    • @kardsufur2966
      @kardsufur2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      there are some games like Heroes & Generals ww2 where the avs-36 is by far the most powerful and superior gun on the soviet side which all players use :)

    • @howdoyouturnthison7827
      @howdoyouturnthison7827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@kardsufur2966 It is equivalent of mkb 42 in Red orchestra 2.

    • @mikec8086
      @mikec8086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@howdoyouturnthison7827 thats the avt40 in ro2

    • @daniels0376
      @daniels0376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@kardsufur2966 Video games don't portray the downsights of this rifle.
      You don't see how expensive it was to produce, you don't see how often it would break down, you don't see the higher resources which had to be put into a conscript army to train them for such a system.
      Besides in video games full auto rifles are great because it takes 2-3 shots to kill an enemy and the full auto delivers that more quickly. IRL it usually was 1 shot one kill with those high calibers and no body armor.

    • @josephahner3031
      @josephahner3031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@daniels0376 not as much as you'd think, the lethality of rifle fire depends on shot placement just like today. More powerful rounds will do more damage and be more likely to rupture internal organs but it's not a guaranteed kill.

  • @skyflier8955
    @skyflier8955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Is anyone else amazed by how incredibly clever these mechanisms are?

    • @phillgizmo8934
      @phillgizmo8934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes.

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Must have had swiss/german ancestry :-D

    • @Irregular_John
      @Irregular_John 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lost and confused your TH-cam handle describes you to a T.

    • @keithsimpson2685
      @keithsimpson2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Irregular_John People like to suck off German/Japanese engineering because it enforces their weird idea that nations have a specific character.
      Really it's probably just they have better consumer protections lol.

    • @gregdaweson4657
      @gregdaweson4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Irregular_John lmao

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1748

    "The Russians just make crude and simple guns"
    _[shows them AVS-36]_

    • @dndboy13
      @dndboy13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

      an-94 b o i s

    • @Ray-lf1eo
      @Ray-lf1eo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Fedorov..

    • @wills2140
      @wills2140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      How's your Fedorov working?

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @Soul Calibur neither were they simple. Look at Nagant revolver. So much fucking around just to get max power out of short 7.62 ammo. Why? Because they wanted to drill barrels on the same machinery as was used to make Mosins in different 7.62. And yet keep the cartridge short. Mosin itself is notoriously bad for being not any simpler or cheaper then SMLE or Kar98. And definitely much more expensive then MAS-36.

    • @abk4202020
      @abk4202020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dndboy13 an94 is the death of the AK

  • @user-ys2eq7mg1k
    @user-ys2eq7mg1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +786

    "Симонов" - "Simonov" - pronounced with long "e" like in "sea".
    Great presentation as always.
    I remember article about this rifle in 1946 Blagonravov's book - there was long list of design flaws, including dangerous to the user double feed. Rifle had no good way to check chamber visually, because of it's locking and gas system.

    • @andrewp.1873
      @andrewp.1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      This is correct thanks.

    • @Woistdeingott
      @Woistdeingott 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yep. Ian, Russians tend to use the letter И in names like that vs the ай sound you made, just for future reference

    • @kefeer123
      @kefeer123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Adding to that, if it is Russian, then "i" is always "ea" and that other "i" would be "ay". We don't have a separate letter for "ay" (but we have "я" for "ya" and "ю" for "yu").
      Also, that's pronounced "S. S. S. eR.", not CCCP.

    • @user-yi3jz9un2f
      @user-yi3jz9un2f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Американцы говорят о том как произносится фамилия Симонов.Это даже забавно."И" у нас произносится как "И" и никак "ай" там нет.

    • @ZekeAxel
      @ZekeAxel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kefeer123 I'm pretty sure the See-See-See-Pee was intentional.

  • @01ZombieMoses10
    @01ZombieMoses10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I find it really quite remarkable that even after the complete and total upheaval of the revolution and the following terrifying in-fighting, the brand new Soviet Union did not let grass grow under its feet. Despite whatever you may think about Russian culture and the state of their politics in any given era, you have to admire their ability to get on with pushing the envelope no matter how uncertain and dangerous the present may be.

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be fair though one of the reasons that the revolution was able to take hold was because the failure of the Imperial Army during WW1 because they were poorly equipped and supplied had the Tsar been able to equip and supply his armies adequately it's likely morale would have been better and the situation not devolved into revolution or alternativly the Revoultion would have been easy to put down. I suspect the Soviets didn't want to see a repeat of those situations.

    • @Blazo_Djurovic
      @Blazo_Djurovic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, one of the benefits of the revolution was that it swept away a lot of limitations due to class on who could do what. It still didn't mean anyone could advance everywhere, if your background was labeled as reactionary you'd have issues, but that applied to a much smaller segment of population. So in turn a LOT of junior engineers who weren't factory owners and like stayed and were studdenly given pretty much free reign to submit designs to central requests. Plus communists were REAAAALY interested in being or appearing modern, and breaking with the old traditions. So if something was something new that was looked at as a newfangled thing in the West, and Soviets could manufacture that (their main issues were manufacturing often not being up to snuff AND having gaping holes in theoretical side given that a lot of academy people fled) they were fiddling with it a LOT during 20s and early 30s.

    • @CharlesGaines
      @CharlesGaines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People were pumped to be part of something new and probably pretty exciting.

    • @fkboyStalin
      @fkboyStalin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Soviets were not only Russians.

  • @danapatelzick594
    @danapatelzick594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    These Russian designs are always interesting, the designers must have paid attention in their physics classes. The axis of the barrel on this rifle looks to be just slightly above the point of contact on the shoulder. The Garand's barrel position was in the more classic position where the barrel length provided the most accurate location for iron sights. Pretty cool.

  • @belakkale
    @belakkale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    There was one more interesting feature - its bayonet had a position that allowed it to function as monopod. That was canceled on last period of production, as well as 20 round mags

  • @KonstaKokC
    @KonstaKokC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    1936: Lets put a Bolt hold open to our new gun - ok, cool
    2018: AK-12 accepted into service - ooh we don't need that

    • @sqeeye3102
      @sqeeye3102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@quentintin1 It's more than just the quality of life upgrade of pushing a button, a bolt hold-open shows you when you are empty very clearly (instead of dropping the hammer on nothing) and also makes it easier to insert a fully loaded magazine. There are plenty of aftermarket solutions to the problem including AK pattern rifles made from the factory with bolt hold-opens integral to the rifle. It really is a stupid decision to not implement something so simple and useful into your new military rifle.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@sqeeye3102 true the bolt hold mags are good Hungarian or yugo ones I believe but you still have to run the bolt as when you drop the mag the bolt slams home

    • @konstantinavilov1192
      @konstantinavilov1192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      As I think, the real reason for no bolt hold open in the final military version of AK-12 is that the army wanted full back-compatibility with stock AK-74 mags (which are stored in gazillions by the army). In fact, the final AK-12 is a reworked AK-74, unlike the first iteration of AK-12, which was a truly new and very progressive gun.

    • @80m63rM4n
      @80m63rM4n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Still crying over the AK-12 they killed.

    • @user-ys2eq7mg1k
      @user-ys2eq7mg1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@sqeeye3102 I believe the reason behind "no bolt hold open device" is backward compatibility with millions of standart AK-74 mags in service. There is no way to replace it in foreseen future, so why bother with hold open? Plus many people don't push button, they just rack the bolt, even on ARs and pistols.

  • @MasterOfHelium
    @MasterOfHelium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It is curious to know that Simonov was the apprentice of Fedorov. because this gun actually shows it, both from the outside aesthetically and some of the inner shapes and mechanics too!

  • @leojampolsky3226
    @leojampolsky3226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The numbers could represent different factories, that produced specific parts. It was a custom in USSR. We had a "Zhiguli" car, that the numbers on the parts were from different factories. You could buy a brand new bicycle, that was made in different republics of the soviet union.

  • @user-sp8ew8yk9k
    @user-sp8ew8yk9k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    This is a Russian school, which is unique in that each designer adds something different. There is no task to make a commercial profit from the project, there is a goal, to give the army a cheap, convenient, reliable weapon. In the selection process, the final product gets the best items. When developing the Famous SVD rifle (Dragunov Rifle) Simnonov (ABC) also participated in the competition, it was not the best. As a result, he transferred all his achievements and experience to Dragunov. Dragunov developed only sports weapons (accurate but gentle). Ultimately, the Russian army received the best sample that is accurate and works as a "soldier", in the mud and cold. In its unique approach to the problem.

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Михаил Сабанцев вот вам и сравнения двух экономических систем. Вот только я бы назвал это Советской школой. Именно при советской власти деньги ни значили почти ничего. Сейчас и при царях бабки считали еще как. Особенно это видно по первой мировой и по чеченским войнам.

    • @Irregular_John
      @Irregular_John 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Sarmax Полностью поддерживаю. Fully concur my Russian compatriot. The whole algorithm of how the weapons were built in USSR (without concern about profit limiting the end result) clearly demonstrates the difference between socialist/communist and capitalist socio-economic formations.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      "In its unique approach to the problem." yea it is called in the free world "lie to the very end"... even only few years before USSR colapse this crapy system was promoted as the best by propaganda similar to the one that you provided here.
      Something so simple as bicycle was only a dream for most of the citizens when this country was producing millions of weponds similar to the one that we can see in the video so the Red Army can spread the comunistic revolution to all the countries where people was dreaming about cars as they was able to buy a bike...
      Golden Age for USSR was after WW2 when stealing from Central Europe started but it could not last forever. Even war reparation from Germany to Poland(the most destroyed country during that war) were stolen by "noble" USSR...
      that btw started this war hand by hand with Germany. Poland in sep 1939 was attacked by Germany and USSR not to mention that they agreed before the war started that USSR gonna end up with over 51% of the Polish territory!

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Bialy_1 stfu

    • @vulekv93
      @vulekv93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Bialy_1 Profits don't exclude patriotism. And that communistic system really failed. State would dictate what kind of shoes you can wear, what kind of food you can eat... It was insane.

  • @bengttolkis8646
    @bengttolkis8646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The "extra" flapper locks work as an out battery safety and they also double as an full auto sear, so they are quite essential for this type of locking, striker and sear combo.

  • @TacticalUniverse
    @TacticalUniverse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    I would pay many many moneys for this gun....but... I don't have many many moneys.

    • @maximilienrobespierre7927
      @maximilienrobespierre7927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It is unfortunate when you only have little little moneys.

    • @elwayfan01
      @elwayfan01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Don't you hate it when you have 3 kids and no money, when you'd rather have no kids and 3 money?

    • @goldenislands8142
      @goldenislands8142 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Est 18,000$-25,000$, current bid 12,000$. POCKET CHANGE! :P

    • @TheGearhead222
      @TheGearhead222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Could have bought an SVT-40 when they came in , but remember that they required a special tool for adjusting the gas system, which at the time was very hard to locate, although people began making repro's later. That plus they were relatively $ to me at the time and I discovered that they had other issues as mentioned. Still , a fascinating gun as a collectable shooter-the Germans thought enough of them that they used any example of this design that they found! Shot a friends SVT-40 and was impressed at how well the gas system dampened the recoil, plus the gun was just as accurate, IMHO, as a Mosin-Nagant 91-30--John in Texas

  • @davidkohler7454
    @davidkohler7454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is a work of art in gunsmithing.all of the Geometry involved is just crazy. It's obvious that more things were discovered and then simplified. But they really put a lot of good effort into this weapon. All of the metal dovetailing and machinework is amazing. I can really appreciate this one .

  • @ivanhecimovic5272
    @ivanhecimovic5272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    I have a picture of my grandfather with sniper verzion of this rifle

    • @nathan655555
      @nathan655555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Would love to see it

    • @ObsoleteVodka
      @ObsoleteVodka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      You could scan it and upload it somewhere. Please share it with us if you do!

    • @Pajdas610
      @Pajdas610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Paški Sir dobro ime haha.

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But this rifle never went into service you must be referring to the SVT-40 with a scope?

    • @Random-os3md
      @Random-os3md 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Justine allan Develos actually this gun went into service into 1940 and replaced by SVT 38 & 40

  • @YugoslavGamer
    @YugoslavGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    2:23 Reznov? Chernov! You walk.

    • @FL0D0S
      @FL0D0S 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Apparently his design was so bad he got sent to a labour camp! Or maybe his number just came up?

    • @codystickler8779
      @codystickler8779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was rhinking the same thing hahah

  • @nicksande6880
    @nicksande6880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Reznov? A name we havent heard of?
    Cutting the jokes this rifle does look interesting

  • @samuel88andrews
    @samuel88andrews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    From my semester of Russian I believe its pronounced "See-mon-ov". My Russian history teacher, who's Russian also mentioned him in class pronouncing his name like that.

    • @Voldombo
      @Voldombo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes, this is correct pronunciation.

    • @galliman123
      @galliman123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our crypto saviour

    • @samuel88andrews
      @samuel88andrews 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@galliman123 crypto?

    • @robleyusuf2566
      @robleyusuf2566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See-miyo-nov

    • @robleyusuf2566
      @robleyusuf2566 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Voldombo no it is see-miyo-nov

  • @PlanetRibooted
    @PlanetRibooted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It’s really cool to see many of the elements carried through to the SKS, in this much earlier rifle.

    • @spinosaurusiii7027
      @spinosaurusiii7027 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. From the AVS to the SVT, but then also to the PTRS, and from there to the SKS

  • @0115Heather
    @0115Heather 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It looks like they took an sks, a mosin, and a tokarev; put them all together and then mixed in a little bit of lhati and a mini14.... Soviet weapons are always such cool looking machines as well. Thank you for the video and the history lesson.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the whole dis and reassembly makes this thing a genius construction.

  • @FEDsShotMOM
    @FEDsShotMOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    it blows my mind the interesting lives these designers lived. from being an armory extra hand/custodian, to being taken in my famous designers to eventually designing one of the most common weapons on the planet

  • @kyuzotatsuya9641
    @kyuzotatsuya9641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how the trigger system works, it looks so complex disassembled but once you see it working its beautifully simple

  • @yurijsmislov2190
    @yurijsmislov2190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Как мало осталось рабочих образцов это винтовки и в таком хорошем состоянии. Спасибо за обзор.

  • @zanedeklerk
    @zanedeklerk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ian you are such an angel for making these videos, without you a lot of firearms would go, well, forgotten. Very impressive that you upload everyday. I've been watching your videos for years and I think the way you have kept the quality high is very commendable.

  • @necrothitude
    @necrothitude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These detailed teardowns are absolutely fantastic! Seeing the mechanics and learning how different designs all evolved and were informed by each other is seriously fun.

  • @somnitek
    @somnitek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved that little exposition on the functioning of the trigger. I always had trouble picturing that sorta thing in my head but watching that pretty much cleared up any questions I could have possibly had. That was great! Thank you!

  • @belakkale
    @belakkale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    and btw, this rifles first time saw action in 1939 in USSR-Japan conflict

  • @rodstalwart2659
    @rodstalwart2659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you very much Ian for that semi and auto mechanism function you discussed on this firearm. It is so far the best of the video presentation. I could ask for nothing more. Excellent. God keep you brother!

  • @craigwarby2188
    @craigwarby2188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a fantastic rifle. So much history right there.
    I’m from the UK, don’t own any guns, I love the history and engineering that is featured in every video that you create. Great work 👍🏼

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    great info as always

    • @SilverWolfM200LDH
      @SilverWolfM200LDH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why I love this channel, I always learn something-I thought the Soviet's first infantry rifle was the SKS.

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    And yet the us took all that time to put a box magazine on the M1.

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      They had to work trying to convert a M1 to use box mags until they flipped the table and re did the action

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      And the Italians did it in a fraction of the time anyway with the BM-59. The M14 is a travesty.

    • @kennieminski7080
      @kennieminski7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A travesty, really? The only mechanical problems I am aware of are the finicky rock and lock magazines and firing 308 in full auto from the shoulder. So what about the rifle would lower it to the level of 'travesty'?
      You can't really blame it's development time on the rifle itself that squarely lies on the American ordinance board being its usual derpy self.

    • @dylanwebb5199
      @dylanwebb5199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@kennieminski7080 until you get a minute amount of dirt/sand/mud in that EXPOSED bolt. But other than that in semi auto it's a fine rifle.

    • @kennieminski7080
      @kennieminski7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dylanwebb5199 So the m1 garand is a travesty as well then?
      Or the sks?

  • @Requeium
    @Requeium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not gonna lie for how early this rifle is some of this firearm is brilliant. I love some of the design directions Simonov took and it has some very slick ways of passing hurdles. From that floating seer bar the elevator locking block i love this firearm. Thanks ian again for a fantastic bit of educational engineering history!

  • @polduseri909
    @polduseri909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very impressed with your explanation. You did a great job in explaining the whole functionality of the rifle. I wish one day to be able to know just a little bit of hw my own guns works. Thank you!

  • @aries_9130
    @aries_9130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so awesome. Thank you very much for the video, Ian!

  • @Aravzil
    @Aravzil 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredibly interesting video. You really went into the details with the mechanism.

  • @Nightwindale
    @Nightwindale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've waited for so long for this piece to appear, thanks Ian! Also, although you were already corrected by folks about pronunciation of "Simonov", i clearly remember that you got it right in some early videos (probably PTRS, don't remember for sure now).

  • @bigdogbourne
    @bigdogbourne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    short video about Stryker fire vs hammer like your short stroke vs long stroke? just an idea. keep up great work.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when bringing up striker/hammer fired might as well throw in single/double action in the same round.

  • @workingmansdead44-ug8hl
    @workingmansdead44-ug8hl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always fascinating, informative and entertaining content,Ian.

  • @tianyuanxia6270
    @tianyuanxia6270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, I have expected this for a long time. Thank you!

  • @goneutt
    @goneutt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's always amazing to see the ingenuity that goes into weapons design. And a good amount of this was stamped metal.

  • @johnmorgan1629
    @johnmorgan1629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    So the screws a travel limiter, bit like British Prison Officer!

    • @diestormlie
      @diestormlie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate you.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ingeniously intricate. It's a pleasure watching Ian dismantle things.

  • @chriske3283
    @chriske3283 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have been waiting for this video!

  • @fp4592
    @fp4592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    СССP on the stock has actualy "SSSR" pronounce: as Soyus Sovyetskih Sotsialisticheskih Respublic (USSR)

    • @Jari_Kuusisto
      @Jari_Kuusisto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Try to say that fast with a marshmallow in your mouth...

    • @drdnout
      @drdnout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jari_Kuusisto Tikkurilla!

    • @blago998
      @blago998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jari_Kuusisto easy

  • @rickyracestrickland8927
    @rickyracestrickland8927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As simplistic as the Russians like their weapons to be,I could never imagine them trying to MASS produce these rifles right smack in the middle of a war!!! Ian is right about it being a good example of early automatic weapons alright. It's unnecessary busy compared to the simpler weapons we see today. Especially Russian weapons. The "3 lock"locking system is unreal!!!! On the other hand....I wish someone with good milling knowledge would produce quality reproductions of weapons like these,or the G43,etc. There's not enough originals to go around for those of us highly interested in these old kind of guns.

  • @williamjacobs236
    @williamjacobs236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Ian .

  • @Chetanoo
    @Chetanoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for you job Yan. That's a lot of history knowledge.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s a clever but busy locking system. I expect it would give problems with dirt intrusion, but do so safely. The trigger design is also ingenious. There’s a lot going on inside there!

  • @keenanmcbreen7073
    @keenanmcbreen7073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "OH! And it didnt hurt that Stalin knew Tokarev, and liked Tokarev." Minor detail lol

    • @sadwingsraging3044
      @sadwingsraging3044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a chance it had any bearing on the final outcome. Coincidence I'm sure!

  • @McDylanNuggets
    @McDylanNuggets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This one was great! With these were in 4K. I hope that's an upgrade coming to this channel soon!

  • @gothia1715
    @gothia1715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such an interesting time of fire arms developement. Especially when it comes to self loading rifles and machine guns. There werent proven best systems yet so the engineers had to try out alot of stuff and had to come up with new ideas. Even tho many things about the AVS arent ideal its still incredible how smart many of the solutions were.

  • @markcockerill451
    @markcockerill451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The small wedges on the side are not locking lugs they hold the striker back till it’s in battery . For full auto fire

  • @Purpmaster
    @Purpmaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My god this thing is complex. Would be a nightmare to disassemble in the field lol. Awesome gun, great video. 👍

  • @nopenopenopenope194
    @nopenopenopenope194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these guns, the AVS-36, SVT-38 and SVT40. I own an SVT40 and it is art. It vertically strings shots but I still love it.

  • @AnalogWolf
    @AnalogWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating! Thanks for all this cool info.

  • @johngz3413
    @johngz3413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that is a beautiful piece of hardware and you could have used the front pin edge as your screw driver to remove the triger guard... no tools

  • @CornishMoose
    @CornishMoose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That’s a pretty nice looking rifle!

  • @kevinwade1775
    @kevinwade1775 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best story teller around. Thanks for these posts. 😊

  • @warrenwilkinson9689
    @warrenwilkinson9689 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Ian! yet another great history piece

  • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
    @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I can’t imagine how it can be thought up without computers, 3D modelling programs, without LSD ...

    • @oscarbaezsoria1650
      @oscarbaezsoria1650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Real talent?

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And without calculators. Just blueprints and a endless imagination.
      Think about the Apollo missions. They had no CAD, no PC as we know it now. No calculators. Just drowning boards, pencils and a tone of imagination.
      more people struggle, more they are inventive. If you leave your population just partying and relaxing in peace and prosperity they will get dumb and lazy as fuck in a generation. Thats what we see now all around the world. Better living you have, worst result you achieve. In general.

    • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
      @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarbaezsoria1650 it's real magic ;)

    • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
      @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrMaxStalsky unfortunately, you are absolutely right! But in Soviet Union all population of the country had approximately the same standard of living, diligence + inborn talents allowed any person to become an engineer - education was free for everyone!

    • @benzylmethane157
      @benzylmethane157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without LSD)))
      Good joke)

  • @vii7031
    @vii7031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Are you planning on filming the PTRS rifle?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      When I find a suitable example, definitely

    • @AlASokolov
      @AlASokolov 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ForgottenWeapons Can this AVS to shoot? Do you plan to shoting range?

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlASokolov he did show a short clip of himself firing an AVS36 so I assume he has a fourth coming firing video. Posted a very short clip of himself firing an AVS on Facebook maybe a month ago

    • @TheGearhead222
      @TheGearhead222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amazing that MARSTAR in Canada sold the PTRD and PTRS legally to the masses at one time in Canada!:
      forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?402149-PTRS-anti-tank-rifle
      Unfortunately, it looks like there are proposed laws to change classification of .50 and larger caliber ammo there-John in Texas

  • @HonduDan
    @HonduDan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing against you Ian, you're exceptional man. Extremely knowledgeable and very well spoken on the subjects of your videos. However, if I have to see the ad for iTarget where the guy pronounces it "ertergert" one more time, I'm going to scream!

  • @TheSuperCanucks
    @TheSuperCanucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just noticed you uploaded this on my birthday last year, thank you

  • @Yuri-gg6nv
    @Yuri-gg6nv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That Rifle is the bane of my whole existence...

    • @YeeMacghyee
      @YeeMacghyee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you’re referring to heroes and generals, the germans are way worse, especially the stg 44.

    • @Yuri-gg6nv
      @Yuri-gg6nv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YeeMacghyee actually yes, i am reffering to H&G, but i am Main on Soviets, so i was actually reffering to the lack of AVS 36 videos on TH-cam( the gun itself, not in Games)

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this example. The tech that went into this in the 30's is just mazing!

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting mechanism. I don't know nearly as much about the mechanics of these things as I ought to so I always find these demonstrations useful.

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The secret life of the AVS 36 .... I watch this 3/4 times. Makes you appreciate the MAS 40....er MAS 44. Great video .... a rare rifle....

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Me: _I bet this gun was well liked, it was probably really controllable and a great shooter compared to other semiautomatic rifles in the market at the time like the RSC and the Farquhar-Hill._
    Ian at 4:25: "This gun is actually select fire."
    Me: 😦

    • @ToriusHeart
      @ToriusHeart ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, the A part of the AVS designation should have tipped you off that its a full auto rifle

  • @kurtvanduran7725
    @kurtvanduran7725 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    @2:24 Reznov... so he lives.

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is ELEGANTLY complicated! Reminds me a bit of the C96 Mauser pistol. Thanks for the vid!

  • @Verdunveteran
    @Verdunveteran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool! I have been waiting for a video on this one! :D We have a deactivated one, lacking its magazine, in GMHV's collections at Hässleholms Museum in Hässleholm, Sweden. it was most likely brought back as a war trophy from the Finno-Soviet Winter War of 1939-1940 by a Swedish Volunteer Corps soldier from the regiment here in Hässleholm. My grand father did his military service here and served in the Swedish Volunteer Corps during the Winter War aswell.

  • @ComradeBenedict
    @ComradeBenedict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did TH-cam make a new rule about gun prices? I could've sworn that sale prices for auction guns used to be in the description, but I haven't seen a single one lately

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed that, too. We are all interested in prices.

  • @moehoward01
    @moehoward01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I can see why it was quickly replaced. A very expensive rifle to produce.

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "expensive"

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not like the Tokarev rifles were significantly simpler/cheaper...

    • @2dollarchickenwings689
      @2dollarchickenwings689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 They were, though. A lot less complex parts. Also, there isn't the issue of it's main point of interest having very situational use.

  • @MrMaxStalsky
    @MrMaxStalsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned the word “akin” today thx to that amazing channel. It weird how much words are there that not every English native speaker knows. YT is the best English teacher ever.

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      why you pronounce it with A sounding like “R” bit without the “rrr”, not as a standard “A” (ei)?
      Its so damn weird in some cases to hear that clear “A” in English;)

  • @Shadowreacon8
    @Shadowreacon8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this video forever.

  • @comNartheus
    @comNartheus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On stress patterns - they are kinda opposite in English and Russian. I’ve noticed this for both names and adopted words. It is especially noticeable for Latin (a lot of words, especially scientific terms were adopted by both languages from a Latin or “Neolatin”) so when a Russian talks about science in English most of us who are not used to this specific activity are usually mispronouncing Latin terms, slipping into Russian characteristic stress placements.
    And I know 0 native English speakers who pronounce Russian names correctly at leas half of times and vice versa.

    • @nicholaspatton5590
      @nicholaspatton5590 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have always wondered how "3" ended up in your alphabet. Though it probably is not a three (3).

    • @comNartheus
      @comNartheus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nicholas Patton afaik it was derived from Greek letter zeta, as all our alphabet was derived from Greek originally.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Андрей Назариков Yes, from Greek missionaries Cyril and Methodius, hence the name Cyrillic.

  • @vice6996
    @vice6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The smirk after “...even in Soviet Union labor terms...” 22:40

  • @sergeyvasilyev6728
    @sergeyvasilyev6728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ian, he is surely SEE - MO - NOV (Симонов). Thanks for great video!!! (and for appreciating work of Soviet constructors)

  • @anandanurag
    @anandanurag 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for interesting video!

  • @Jerry-dk8se
    @Jerry-dk8se 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting rifle. But I can see the roots of the SKS in this design. Simonov definitely did a lot of engineering to get that mousetrap to work, and fortunately, designed a more simpler trigger and sear arrangement for the SKS. Thanks for your simplified explanation of this rare piece.

  • @user-ch5wg9iy8q
    @user-ch5wg9iy8q 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the review rare and in Russia automatic guns! Looking at the disassembly, you understand why the leadership of the red army chose in 1938 SVT-38...

  • @Deliverygirl
    @Deliverygirl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a beautiful set of innards this weapon has. Absolutely crazy, love it!

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always love when something is brilliantly simple and too complex at the same time.

  • @srddnrsmn7320
    @srddnrsmn7320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The West: "Oh yeah, we were the first to do that!"
    Russia: "Nyet."

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This wasn't standard issue for every rifleman like the Garand was I think.

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice design.
    I wonder if the toggle locks are as much a fire out of battery device as they are a backup locking mechanism.

  • @darthpatricius
    @darthpatricius 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was really fascinating, thanks

  • @user-wx3wc4bo7c
    @user-wx3wc4bo7c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I still owned a SVT 40 that was a real commitment to clean after a day of shooting....

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Relying on a spring to pull the locking block out of engagement seems like an area that would result in a lot of issues.

    • @williamsullivan9401
      @williamsullivan9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering about that, but I think the gas block pushes it down.

    • @vulekv93
      @vulekv93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@williamsullivan9401 No it doesn't, spring is driving it downwards, if that spring fails when it gets hot and fouled locking lug might stick to the bolt.

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The design of that primary locking block is really interesting.
    I wonder if they used that in any other rifles?

    • @wills2140
      @wills2140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They didn't really, but Thompson had the "Blish lock" in his Sub machine gun and some prototype rifles, starting in 1926.

    • @alaskanbullworm5500
      @alaskanbullworm5500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Japanese type 96/99 machine guns had a similar locking block.

    • @jubuttib
      @jubuttib 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wills2140 The Blish lock though was more of a delaying system rather than a true lock, at least according to Ian's videos on the Thompson guns.

    • @joshualance6005
      @joshualance6005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a flapper locked like on the dp28 mixed with a tilting block like on the sks

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of FW best videos ever! Can't believe I missed it. Great design. Could have been simplified, many great ideas that should be used in modern weapons. I love it. FW doesn't give the auction prices, anymore, right? I could be talked into paying big money for this piece of engineering/history.

  • @panzerzh9864
    @panzerzh9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Special thanks for this video!

  • @stevenfrost6441
    @stevenfrost6441 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Soviet's have a really rich history in firearms..as a Military History buff I always remembered them by the "Five Kov's:" Fyodorov, Kalashnikov, Siminov, Tokarev and Makarov. I am proud to say I own at least one of each of the last 4 men's designs!

    • @user-rj1cc3ku5y
      @user-rj1cc3ku5y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know about Vasiliy Degtyarev (Василий Дегтярёв)? This man is creator for a lot soviet infantry weapons in WWII. SMG PPD, light machine guns - DP-27, DT (tank version), RPD, RP-46 (belt-feeding conversion of DP), heavy machine gun - DShK and DShKM and anti-tank rifle PTRD. All of those guns was aproved in army service, and some of them still in the russian army reserve in present time

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-rj1cc3ku5y Can't forget Degtyarev! I forgot he made DSHk!! I mainly think of the DP-27 believe it or not I seen some Balkan countries still use DP27. I think it is outdated because of PKM, but DSHk still in use heavily all over the middle east. Famously mounted on toyota.

  • @teppokuusisto144
    @teppokuusisto144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Side-note:
    Svenska Frivilligkåren (SFK) aka Swedish Volunteer Corps whom held the section in northern Finland during the latter parts of the Winter war captured these from the Soviets in the battles of Märkäjärvi/Salla (Lapland).
    That is the base for the lineage from Simonov AVS-35 / AVS-36 to Automatgevär m/42 (Ljungman AG-42).

  • @Connor-dl4hq
    @Connor-dl4hq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:20 “Also lots of names you’ve never heard of, Reznov…”
    We may not know of this one, but we ALL know of Victor Reznov

  • @superblahblah666
    @superblahblah666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a sks bro i loved this one, that trigger is crazy complex but simple performing, thanks