How I use reference - Draw with me

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  • Addressing some additional things regarding how to use reference in art. How to use reference images in design and sketching. Uncut drawing footage, let me know if you wanna see more stuff like this!
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  • @rohanraghav9943
    @rohanraghav9943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Just some time stamps to help me remember a few things . I've tried to capture the essence of the video rather than it's entirety .
    Please ignore if it seems irrelevant to you 😊
    2:24
    *Drawing on a larger canvas can get overwhelming as you can easily lose your sense of proportion while laying down line by line ... A pencil undersketch greatly helps !
    5:50 Collage of Reference Pictures
    11:14 to 13:58
    *Being over reliant on references is preferable to using no references though the former can hurt you in the long run .
    Unless .
    You retain the structure and forms of the reference images you're drawing and add it your visual library . And for that you need to really REFLECT and engage with the image and the process itself as you Sketch .
    * If you've drawn a car a gazillion times and still can't do it without reference then you haven't digested it effectively .... One thing that helps would be imagining ( and drawing ?) the object from multiple angles to get a good sense of it's form and structure .
    14:57 Using one's own hands as references
    16:09 -19:27
    Being specific in looking for your references .It helps if you know well in advance what you seek to gain from a reference. What is your reference conveying ? Multiple things obviously . But you might be interested in a specific aspect . Such as Colour Pallettes , Shadow and Lighting (Mood ) , a quaint Texture of some sorts or even a specific pose .
    17:44 Scale of some sort ?
    20:34 -21:42
    * Would it be wiser to begin inking from the head rather than the hand ?
    * Having a reference for the hand pose is helpful
    22:19 While it's great to collect the necessary references before you begin so that you're not left scrambling searching later that's not always possible. Sometimes you can't anticipate a few specific things for which you require reference . Such as an ornamental design of sorts . It depends on the level of detail you're aiming to lay down.

    • @ChromaMoma
      @ChromaMoma  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This guy

    • @rohanraghav9943
      @rohanraghav9943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ChromaMoma oh gosh , I wasn't expected you to pin it . Glad tho 😅

    • @gamingrex2930
      @gamingrex2930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PRAISE BE, thx so much mah man

  • @OpenBorders4isengard
    @OpenBorders4isengard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve thought about the reference question for a long time. One solution would be to copy something and then immediately follow up with a couple quick iterations of that object from memory in order to help commit that short term memory to long term. You’d then proceed to compare your non-ref drawings to the reffed ones, find the mistakes, then repeat the process again. At some point during the future you’d want to sit down and draw a page of the object in question from imagination, perhaps at different angles.

  • @Phoenix0630.
    @Phoenix0630. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The name of the pen is
    [ Pentel XGFH-Z Silver Brush Pen Fude " Gin no ho" ] from Japan😄

  • @tuziart101
    @tuziart101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Yoooooooo An hour long???!! Time to grab some snacks and get to learning from your drawings!!! 😁😁😁

    • @ChromaMoma
      @ChromaMoma  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have fun!

    • @tuziart101
      @tuziart101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChromaMoma I definitely did have funnn!! :"")

  • @nirajbhatt7069
    @nirajbhatt7069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I hope we get more like this in the future.
    It really helps a lot.
    🙏🏼

  • @OpenBorders4isengard
    @OpenBorders4isengard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much of learning to draw is memorizing shapes and building fine motor control.
    The shapes thing cannot be overlooked, if you know the general shape of an object, even objects in perspective, you can then infer what the smaller shapes will look like inside with much greater accuracy. For example, you see all these artists on TH-cam that seemingly skip the construction phase of drawing and yet still manage to create convincing drawings, even in perspective. I’ve believe this is a matter of memorizing shapes of objects, in particular the contours of objects in perspective, either through conscious effort or via implicit knowledge, and then inferring the general look of smaller objects within said shapes.
    It’s all about building a library of shapes in your mind, everything else is subordinate to that, perspective included. If you understand the shape, the outline, the contours, ect, and you can rotate that in your mind eye, you will draw accurately.

  • @gubbs00
    @gubbs00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like this format a lot, seeing the whole drawing process is definitely more helpful and entertaining imo.

  • @hollowboy1166
    @hollowboy1166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Realy like your vids dude, you help me improve allot in my art

  • @LP3Films
    @LP3Films 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I like this a lot! Cus I can draw and it feels like we are drawing together 😃 keep um coming man love you vids and drawings and everything about this Chanel

    • @ChromaMoma
      @ChromaMoma  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's really awesome! I'm glad you like them, I'll keep 'em coming :)

  • @locochavo4560
    @locochavo4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate this vid for actually the uncut progress of drawing. Really helps. We need more vids like this

  • @ZeroGravitas_
    @ZeroGravitas_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see a longer video showing your process - thanks so much! Now I'm drawing my own leafy knight! 👍

  • @taylarleigh24
    @taylarleigh24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was super helpful! I'd love to hear more about your process!

  • @jackwilliams1468
    @jackwilliams1468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do more of this format! Its awesome to see you draw like this and draw with you
    Edit: I'd even like to see you just draw with no voice-over and just you talking about your thoughts during the drawing

  • @kingpen1179
    @kingpen1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    been waiting for your uploads bro, your vids always inspires me to draw more and practice smarter, shout out from Philippines brother 💪💪💪

  • @xenorishi7763
    @xenorishi7763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An hour of chroma moma video!! Boy have I been blessed today!!😌🐥

  • @user-vr9jh1gg2c
    @user-vr9jh1gg2c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woow, it was long, but worth watching. I love watching these kinda videos when i draw, it really helps to be focused and get new information. I love this channel :)

  • @katnipkatnips
    @katnipkatnips 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're like a goldmine of learnings. Thank youuuuu

  • @JanineMarieChrysler
    @JanineMarieChrysler หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got some Pentel brush pens and found your video. Very informative! 😎

  • @kaiserkerfer1013
    @kaiserkerfer1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you're my favorite illustrator

  • @reginadelreal9623
    @reginadelreal9623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have so many good points and tips on drawing, SUBSCRIBED!!!

  • @JanineMarieChrysler
    @JanineMarieChrysler หลายเดือนก่อน

    Way cool! 😎

  • @elliafabia
    @elliafabia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative Video! I always use several references for a single thing I want to draw. For example, I illustrate the pagan witches' sabbats in an Art Nouveau style and create a pinterest pin board for each one where I collect my references. The upcoming one is Mabon and I want to incorporate acorns. Therefor I collected at least 3 different references for acorns which I can then take whatever I need for the acorns I'm going to draw. I also prefer to use photography or real life for references rather than already drawn/painted pictures, unless I admire the art style and want to practise it to eventually gain something for my own style :D

  • @alnino5293
    @alnino5293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    its already past midnight here but i guess i have no other choice but to draw with u senpai 😩👏

  • @contvechi6203
    @contvechi6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need more videos like this

  • @rinka7580
    @rinka7580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    53 mins long? Sweet. I feel so motivated to draw rn

  • @fatefantasy2776
    @fatefantasy2776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tip top video, even if at the beginning i found it quite hard to see correctly the very first step on pencil to the light/white sheet/pencil combination. But i really liked it and it definitely help to improve my drawings ^^'

  • @vini3boy727
    @vini3boy727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was drawing while listening :)

  • @Fln13800
    @Fln13800 ปีที่แล้ว

    just found you and i am happy!

  • @queldar27
    @queldar27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was drawing right along with you!

  • @adriensatta1458
    @adriensatta1458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a succulent design

  • @justchilling7712
    @justchilling7712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the vid it’s really helpful!!!

  • @izzyhezz
    @izzyhezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Can’t wait to chill and watch this! Quick question.....What pencil is that you are using?

  • @ok_koopa6850
    @ok_koopa6850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your vids

  • @sahil3112
    @sahil3112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn op video.

  • @ludwikfostiak275
    @ludwikfostiak275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesomeeeeeeeeeee!!! Love your art!!! I give 1'000'000 dolars to one who will find more inspiring artist!! Btw We still wait for *mech drawing tutorial* (i can't wait for it!)❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @JanineMarieChrysler
    @JanineMarieChrysler หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, more brush pen!

  • @robertthebruce6035
    @robertthebruce6035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've got a good amount of bronzing on the legs and tassets, but I feel you've left the vambraces and the backbraces lacking. Also the cuirass itself I think should have more bronzing. Based on the length of the quillon block, I think the grip shoul be longer and the pommel shoul be larger on the sword. I also think the visor slit on that armet is a bit too wide.

  • @mcbigcheese7327
    @mcbigcheese7327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @ryanring7629
    @ryanring7629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you use to make your reference board/collage?

  • @nazmulislam5217
    @nazmulislam5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting I normally see you go straight in when you draw mechs

  • @templarknight585
    @templarknight585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:23 idk how to explain it dude xD but the music really suits the channel name xD

  • @brandonsease2834
    @brandonsease2834 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you use loomis. Frist Then. Drawing the body parts

  • @renemarrero6523
    @renemarrero6523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏻

  • @MikeyRamone00
    @MikeyRamone00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this is quite literally the longest video I’ve seen you do lol

  • @crashcarwill2760
    @crashcarwill2760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what app is that on the ipad?

  • @justinhi
    @justinhi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is a great video and all, but I have a question about the drawing. Why is the knight hitting it’s opponent with the flat part of the blade? Is there a reason for that or was it just not really considered?

    • @spingmufh1007
      @spingmufh1007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think one of the collage pictures demonstrated this, not for sure. Knight did this in combat if they didn’t want to dull the edge of their blade when hitting hard, could happen in combat too. One thing to remember is that both knights are wearing thick metal plate armor, it’s all about blunt force trauma, the edges aren’t going to matter as much even though swinging like that would be more efficient.

    • @justinhi
      @justinhi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spingmufh 100 thank you for the explanation

  • @ChromaMoma
    @ChromaMoma  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you're interested in a Q&A video, hit me up with some questions in the replies or tweet at me! twitter.com/meanhouseart

    • @_benk
      @_benk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mechs!

    • @mr_leviathan
      @mr_leviathan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was a great video, nice to get some insight into how you draw characters. I would love to see this type of video for how you draw mechs and vehicle’s.

    • @rohanraghavsharma3150
      @rohanraghavsharma3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Everything Hurts Same problem with me sigh :/

  • @shotbyschwank
    @shotbyschwank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What Pencil do you use? :)

  • @darthripa6079
    @darthripa6079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a dark souls reference?

  • @LunNightMoonLight
    @LunNightMoonLight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not sure I’ll be able to do it then and retain the information and build a visual library I am over reliant on reference : (

  • @looxinyuan9923
    @looxinyuan9923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the app you use to compile all your references into one place called?

    • @samo4860
      @samo4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was looking for the same thing?

    • @looxinyuan9923
      @looxinyuan9923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Pureref! It's in his next video called "4 free apps to help you draw better".

  • @TristansMind
    @TristansMind 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t force your self on random things just draw what interest and draw what you see a lot. I love animals and I see a lot of animals cus I’m a vet and I live in Florida so I see a lot of turtles frogs alligators so that’s what I like to draw a lot of time and it makes a difference.

  • @BP-ok7qg
    @BP-ok7qg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets draw boi

  • @Sina-aka-potatosupreme
    @Sina-aka-potatosupreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never understood the problem that some people have with using references. I imagine that kings and queens had to stand still for hours for a painter before photography was invented. That is using a live reference. Sure they could sketch out the general features, but not a realistic painting (I guess).

  • @malfevra
    @malfevra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    second

  • @definitivamenteno-malo7919
    @definitivamenteno-malo7919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm.. you need more reference on XIV/XVth century swords, Moma...

  • @fernandodiogo1331
    @fernandodiogo1331 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terraria silver armor

  • @henrywalworth8249
    @henrywalworth8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Draw time

  • @ducksoff7236
    @ducksoff7236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever made that "over reliance on reference" comment is ignorant and obviously doesn't draw. It takes decades to build up enough of a visual library to draw "anything" and even then you still just don't know how to draw everything! Especially if you haven't seen something before. You effing see it order to draw it. Then to commit it to memory you have to study it and draw it over and over from multiple angles. While LOOKING at it. Go ahead don't use refences. I don't care that your drawings stay crappy and you slow down your own progress.