VW Touareg 5.0 V10 TDi | Long Term Owners Review | Pros and Cons, Economy, Servicing, Reliability
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2020
- The Volkswagen Touareg V10 is an understated legend in the sleeper performance SUV category, but one which also comes with many horror stories about their reliability. So with that in mind, what is it actually like to own and live with one of these 5.0 V10 diesel monsters, with their excellent proportions, great handling and Viper eclipsing torque figures?
Well, here are my thoughts from the time I owned mine, to help better inform my fellow V10 fans who are considering taking the plunge on one of these appreciating monster diesels...
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@In the Village Tell me about it, lol. I've got a '68 Lincoln now and its a £200 tank at about £1 a mile. Makes the V10 seem like a Prius. Golf R32 as the daily though thankfully, which comes in at a nice 30 mpg average
Just incase it wasn't mentioned before and/or you didn't know, the V10 TDI engine doesn't have a timing chain haha. There are no belts or chains for the engine/accessories. Just a little interesting fact I enjoy about this engine and a funny conversation starter about the car. Great video and as a fellow 07 V10 (110k miles)owner in Canada, I can agree with your points as it is my daily driver for a year now. Good stuff!
Good to find another person who enjoys an unique engine! Yes the "Stirnradantrieb" is crazy and also pretty much indestructable! No Chains no Pullys just forged gear wheels!
I own one myself with over 250k miles on! It runs great, the only problem that comes everytime is the air Suspension. The engine just needs good care like regular in time oil changes and once a month a good long Tour to burn the engine clean.
I have owned my 2006 V10 Touareg for just over a year as well. It just turned over 170,000 miles, only about 11,000 since I purchased it. Previous owner had done a full engine rebuild at 155,000 and put in upgraded camshafts and upgraded turbos. I did find a couple of things related to that engine rebuild that weren't right, and unfortunately I had to pay for them rather than the previous owner taking responsibility. Aside from that, the only other problem I had was the center support bearing on the drive shaft failed. VW wanted about $1600 US to fix it, but I found a shop that specializes in rebuilding drive shafts that had one in stock for $400 including tax and overnight shipping. 2 evenings laying on the garage floor underneath it with wrenches and penetrating oil and it was good to go.
Can attest to how this thing eats up the highway! I purchased one sight unseen and drove it 1000 miles home. Could have easily gotten at least 500 miles on a tank of fuel! Was crazy also seeing how effortless this thing cruises...doing over 100mph barely spinning 2000rpm! Simply amazing vehicle! No comparison to my v8 touareg performance wise
People always praise those land cruisers and hillbilly pick ups, they don't know that the touareg is also quite good!
This SUV is a legend.
Because they are super reliable and do well with light offroad. Touareg is junk in those categories lmao, it’s just like any other luxury SUV that depreciates like crazy as it has a lot of issues and expensive to repair.
This has to be the Best Review I've ever heard. And on a vehicle I almost bought when they were first introduced... I wish I'd gotten one now.
Well for their current used prices why not get one, they're pretty affordable
i wish more reviewers did review like how you do.
really top work that you done
Great videos and incite to the V10. I have had one for a number of years now and love it to death. Few major issues but fortunately most covered by a warranty i pay for. Last major one was a new alternator. Thankfully i have a great mechanic who was able to get to the alternator which is located right at the bottom of the V from above by removing manifolds and fuel rails etc. Really considering get the engine mapped now after what you report. Really like to know more about that and what settings can be applied etc.
I wouldn't remap it. You gain some horsepower (as if the existing power isn;t enough) and economy (leaner map) but you run hotter and with less lubrication thus less long-term reliability. There's always a compromise with every choice we make. In this case it's reliability and with an engine that must be dropped even to take a look at the turbos, I wouldn't risk it.
Love this. More please👍
Great and detailed vid dude. What advice can you give me for the 3.2 or the 3.5 V6 petrol Touareg 2005 plus models, been looking at getting one and has to be the petrol version due to the "emissions tax" . Any help and insights would be much appreciated
So glad to have found this review. I’d really like to get a Touareg but people keep giving me the horror stories. I let them scare me off a series 2 disco but I think I’m sticking with the Touareg
Well worth the get, I’m actually selling this one at the moment for 6k
I got a v10 tdi with over 250k miles on the clock. And the only problem is the air Suspension, because sometimes i can get into Off road and sometimes it screams error.
For the costs, its thirstier than my Step dad and you got the audi rs6 breaksystem which is pretty expensive and also it needs 11 Liter oil per change which you should do pretty often to keep the engine without Problems.
My uncle bought a pre registered 2005 V10 Phaeton with 3 miles on the clock. He removed the engine cover, and changed the oil himself between 10k dealer services and did 100,000 trouble free miles. He always idled it down though
Great video, I also purchased a 2005 V10 around the same time as you. Mine was probably a bit more neglected than yours and have had my fair share of issues. Luckily I’m a mechanic so can carry out work myself, if your not and are planning to purchase a V10 be prepared for big bills. These cars are getting old and things do wear out. Same as you the air compressor failed but was an easy swap with an after market unit. My water pump failed (research shows this happens around the 120k mile mark) when it fails it will dump coolant into the oil. I’ve also replaced all the gaskets on the oil fill/cooler as they stated to leak (runs out of the V in the block. Like you said other issues have been common to the Touareg. Just a note, the V10 doesn’t run a chain or belt, it uses gears for timing. Also the V10 has two batteries, the starter battery is located in the rear wheel well. I’ve carried out quite a few oil changes now (due to the water pump) really easy to do but does require nearly 12lts of oil and does need to be the correct grade, if not it causes wear to the cams. My really life MPG is probably around 15 round town and mid 20’s on the motorway. I’ve managed to get 32 on a run but was driving like miss daisy.
Ah, thanks for the extra info, I'll have to keep an eye on that in around 5-10k miles or so. If I still have it then anyway. And someone else also mentioned the rear battery, but I don't see how that can be when hooking up the passenger seat one fixed the issue immediately.
HSG Automotive yes the car won’t start if the front isn’t connected as it powers the ECUs. The water pumps not a bad job as the engine can stay in and you don’t have to remove the front end like VW say you have to
Alex Molyneux Ah cool beans
@@alexmolyneux5535 the front end comes out of the way quite easily, VW Audi of this era just made the front panel complete swing to one side with the hose connected and all the radiators, coolers and condenser in place on the front panel so you don’t have to reclaim the AC gas etc to do a belt or other service item on the front of the engine
@@jamest5149 There's no belt in that engine apart from a small one on the alternator (which is quite easy to swap and no engine drop needed). The turbos are the dreaded issue with these engines and need an engine drop. However if you take care of them (let them cool before shutting the engine down) they won't cause problems. They are quite reliable..
they are an amazing piece of machinery
I'm in the market for a touareg, I'm amazed with the mpg figures, I'm probably going to end up with the v6 but if a decent cheap v10 pops up I might just get that.
Yeah a remap or tuning box is a recommendation I'd make for any performance diesel, it gets great results. I did a trip check the other day after making a longer trip and even with some snails pace traffic due to a crash it still returned 26 mpg average. I am looking to sell it in a few months though, to get an upgrade.
Hi guys did anyone find out who did the *remap*? Any info would be great. I’m keen to get mine done. Love this car 👍👍👍 Thanks
Thank you for an informative brilliantly delivered vid, your V10 is a stunner, I own the baby brother V6 and love it. I've never regretted moving from my BMW X5 to a Touareg.
Saw three of these for sale and immediately looked for reviews as I had never heard of a Touareg to have a 5.0 V10 engine. A friend of mine has a 3.0 diesel and said the car's pretty nice to drive. I'd love to try this one out
There's also a 450 bhp petrol 6.0 W12 version, a non-turbo version of the Bentley Continental GT engine, but those are extremely rare
Which year would You recommend to get in terms of that V10? I've got options for 2004, 2005 and 2006 all around 3.5K euros or so.
Generally go as new as you can, but lower km, fewest owners and most service history is more important on these. It needs to have been treated with respect as a performance car, not abused as a general family 4x4
I have bought my first Treg in 2020, a 2004 R5 2.5 V5 with 130,000kms on the clock. Its in great shape and got it for a good price. My next one will be a V10 though.
Nice. I'll be selling mine within the next couple' months to get a new car
Do you still have it and how is he getting on, if not did you have any other issues?
Do you know if this can legally tow a 3.5t car transporter trailer? Great review by the way. Subscribed
Mark H Legally I have no idea, mechanically yeah it can do it no problem
Yes you are aloud to tow 3.5t with this
Yes you can
Only if it's a braked trailer. The Treg's brakes aren't enough for stopping both the car's and that trailer's mass.
I'm looking to get especially for scrap metal on a trailer about 4 to 5 tons would it be able to pull it effortlessly
Just bought a 2006 Touareg v10 The first day the suspension went out. $3500 US to fix. Why do you put the car in neutral at stop signs?
I like this car
Can you provide links to the engine tune/chipping you used? I am mostly interested in the economy aspects not performance.
I didn't actually have it done, it was a previous owner, but for reference it's a ''TuneIt Advantage 2'' box
I would recommend against it. You get a leaner (hotter) map and you sacrifice reliability with an engine that needs to get dropped for many of the major issues. Wouldn't risk it, there's always a compromise with modifications of that sort.
They seem to hit 400-500,000km without major problems.
Hi, just purchased a V10 and am looking to improve the economy, just wondered which map you added to the car
It was called an Advantage Tuneit II iirc
I was considering one of these, but my 300C diesel does 0-100 in 7 secs flat with its stock 3.5L V6, so it's not that bad I suppose. Maybe I'll remap that!
Any diesel is worth a remap, the benefits are too good to miss out on
Just noticed the thumbnail has changed from the blue Touareg shown in the video to a silver one
Yeah updated a whole bunch of them. The blue one in the thumb wasn’t mine anyway
What's your insurance like for the v10?
Tazz 7375 My first year was £170 a month, this year is £90
@@HSGAutomotive damn! That's expensive! I pay less than 300 Euros for the whole year!
Do you think it would be a good choise for travelling the world?
On paper I'd say so yeah, for its pure ability at least. It's immensely capable. The downside would be that due to its unique engine, major repairs in the middle of nowhere would be crippling. Something like a G-Wagen or Unimog camper is probably more suited to world travelling tbh
@@HSGAutomotive thanks i allready thought about a g wagon the problem is my Budget
5:20 I Love getting out of the car as fresh as a daisy👍
V10s are amazing and nothing can beat them sound wise.
Change my mind.
Mine is the quietest V10 around, but yeah they do sound good, lol
I replaced the factory suitcase muffler with dual 12 inch MagnaFlows. Made the beast sound mean, like a big diesel should.
@@ggibson793 Nice. I’ve been trying to shop around to make it sound better. It’ll never match the rumbles of Jags etc that I love the most, but I need more than just the turbo spool 😂😂
@@HSGAutomotive Im adding to Geoffrey, have that potencional is .. oh man.. its like to be best opera singer and letting him sing with respirator :D haha
I dunno but a Ducati engine sounds amazing.
thanks
Is the 30mpg around town? Who mapped it for you? Thanks
No that would be more of an overall average. I think the tuning box was an Advantage TuneIt II or something like that
@@HSGAutomotive really appreciated
1100 RPM Motorway? I've got a Touareg 3.0tdi 65 mph is 2000 is the gearbox different on the v10
It may be, not sure off the top, but its more about the torque difference than gearbox. With 553 lbft on the V10 its always revving lower because its never working as hard
Even if it's with towhook let's be honest noone with this car when it was new was towing for work. If they had towhook it's either for carawan twice or so a year or for towing horse trailer once in a while to competitions, which is not that bad.
FYI: if you own this beast put Mobile 0-40W oil in it. Your camshafts will love you.
I use Castrol GTX 30, as used by VW Dealers
@@HSGAutomotive I believe most of the camshaft failure on this motor are caused by 5-30W oil. I know I have 207k miles(90% towing) on my motor no issue. And will see how yours hold up. Google it:)
@@timleng4404 Interesting, I’ll give it a look
Always use a 5W40 oil with 505.01 VW specification with the R5 and V10 PD engines! ONLY THAT! VW made a mistake reccomending longlife oil on those and camshafts and their owners paid the price!
@@C_R_O_M________ Are you telling me to go back to 5W 40 at 213K miles of heavy towing(5-8000lbs)?
11:56 I don’t think it’s got a timing chain.
Yeah it’s gears, need to edit it out from back when I made this
I would get this only because it has a freakin V10 diesel
It's a phenomenal motor. I'm thinking of going back to one again in future, likely the R50
@@HSGAutomotive The R50 is limited by its body kit for offroading (even mild off roading would damage its body kit). It's a sweet ride though! Too sweet!
@@C_R_O_M________ I couldn't care less about off roading, lol
Have seen plenty around 3k chf but assume that you need an extra 6k to make it "In good condition"
V10's have all gone up over the past couple of years, at least here in the UK, so for a good one now (if you can even find one) you're looking more around 10k+ for a good one yeah
@@HSGAutomotive in Switzerland , sellers almost pay you too take it :)
Joke apart, you have really nice one and I am quiet jealous about the V10. The torque should be astronomical
I sold mine some time ago, but I do miss it sometimes for sure. Unique engine and a fantastic car, with more torque than a Dodge Viper. I bought a new VW a few days ago though in the form of a Golf R32, which is great for all different reasons :P
VAG for the win. I have read that because of the power that this car has it has some issues with the axles or something that break but you can get one that can handle more torque. Perhaps the map has helped with this?
Possibly, I don't know for sure
Axle problems? No, never heard of that and I'm in Club Touareg forum for more than a decade. . Just the driveshaft support. There's a rubber thast get's ripped with use and needs replacement about every 70K kms. There's an aftermarket fix that deals with it permanently and it's not expensive (in the 300$ range - if I recall correctly).
11:54 🤣
An update since last video pls
Sold on my Teg some time ago to get something more spicy (an XKR at the time). Currently running my second VW, a Golf R32, and potentially thinking about getting another Teg in future. Would have to be an R50
@@HSGAutomotive once you drive teg the chances are, you'll go back, if you do pls make new video, I like your content, I'm also thinking to buy R50, but I'm really sceptical about the mpg, be safe, cheers
Absolutely, and the more cars I review on the channel, the better you realize the Teg platform is. The R50 does have around 2,000 updates over the 'normal' V10, two of the most significant ones being that A. It has a surprising jump in torque. Up from 553 lbft to 630, which is massive. And B. That due to it being newer model, you have to fill the smaller tank in the boot with 'AdBlue' to help emissions, which these older ones didn't have.
0-200 km/h please 👍
lovely dub but you look like a black interior and exterior like ive got ,mines only 3.2 petrol though lol
Nah mines blue with black
You need a V10 pickup.
I do love the Dodge Ram SRT-10 quad cab, might get one eventually...
@@HSGAutomotive I drive a 2004 Ford F-250 2v v10 manual. I’m looking to upgrade to a 2010 f250 3v v10.
@@HSGAutomotive Another option is a 2003 V10 Magnum pickup.
Don't worry, there are no timing chains.
The V10 has gears :)
Yep :)
Gears for camshafts? It's like tractor.
Are you sure about that?
@@ivanjovanovic362 Yes, you can look it up if you want
@@ivanjovanovic362 yes. it has geared accessories as well. no belts or chains on this engine
@@niquemarshall there's only one small belt in the alternator. Everything else is geared as you said. The R5 engine is the same but it's half the V10. Literally.
f goverment for taxing all fun cars