The valvetronic motor diy is notorious for the person doing it to not put it back in correctly. In the BMW forums there's always guys crying saying they're car won't start now after replacing it or doing a valve cover repair. Your scanner probably has a function to synchronize it after its put in to learn the max and min adjustments. Good diagnosis as usual Ivan!
Those X5 are endless moneypits. My poor daughter made the mistake to purchase it. only with 95,000 km JUNK!!! never a BMW again.. Toyota all the way. Love your vids. Hello from Alberta.
I’m a 16 BMW master tech, nice diagnosis and good video. There is a service function to relearn valvetronic limit positions when you replace the VVT motor, not sure if you can do it with an aftermarket scanner. Also the eccentric shaft is known to bind and sometimes when it does it wipes out the DME because it puts to much load on the VVT motor. Thanks for sharing
You would think the computer monitors current draw and those pulses should be put to good use and prevent this kind of driver burnout by not applying current persistently.
Thank you for the detailed information, Brandon! Yes I was afraid that the root cause of the clicking issue is a seizing Valvetronic shaft... Hopefully it lasts a while longer for the owner, but wouldn't bet any money on that haha
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I wouldn’t bet either. Normally replace everything, the VVT motor, oil sprayer to motor, the eccentric shaft and new needle bearings for shaft👍. Use to do them as much as oil services😂
The ultimate driving machine. Ultimate cost to buy, ultimate cost to maintain, ultimate cost to repair, ultimate downtime, ultimate frustration…… etc. And ultimately it’s a none running pile of overly complicated systems that someone else is lured into buying as a cheap luxury car and the cycle repeats until it ultimately end in the junkyard.
Partially true, however they do provide some extraordinary driving experience. Particularly the M models. Few other cars give that. But yes, reliability and upkeep are reasons to stay away from them.
Ivan! Great call. I have the 2013 version of this “Eurotrash”…hahaha. If he replaced the Valvetronic, but failed to go through the limit calibration process after Install, he may have caused damage to the gearing or cam/valves. The system has to be calibrated or the motor can cause damage….for whatever that’s worth. I’ve done this job successfully with the calibration and BMW part.
Ivan thank you for making these. I'm an aspiring home mechanic and have no formal training except for books ive bought myself and poured over, and videos from youtubers like yourself. I can't always follow everything youre doing and saying but slowly i'm understanding bit by bit and just wanted to thank you for continuing to make these!
Ive been bit by this once, the motor needs to be installed in midrange of the roostercomb gear of the valvetronic, its spring loaded and will want to fall to minimum. When the engine is started the valvetronic motor is checked by the pcm and parked at close to 80% and simultaneously the throttlebody is opened up to allow smooth start, the engine is then fully handed over to valvetronic after the pcm confirms the vanos timing is correct. My problem was a slightly moved timing on the vanos and wrong installed valvetronic, once everything was installed correct, engine started first key.
makes me love all my corvairs more an more ,,they run an run an most are 60 years old,,,an yes my 95 transport is still with us,,,,love the 3800 in it,,,keep up the good work you do ,,fun to watch ,,
I'm sure this was an unsatisfying episode for you Ivan, but you made the right call. Germany has been ushering the automotive industry into the disposable car era. When you build cars that are so complicated that only dealerships have the tools or proprietary data and information to repair them, it's all over for the independent shops. Then, it's a fortune to repair what once was simple and cheap. The ultimate goal is to shorten the lives of cars and sell more new ones.
So many people I know that have tried to replace valve cover gaskets or valve covers on their BMW's wind up calling me when they try to restart the engine and it sounds like it has no compression. I've done literally dozens of them valvetronic relearns. I know my Launch X431 pad II can do it, so your think tool pros should be able to do it too.
I really enjoy watching Ivan work on a Big Money Wasted. He has expressed his love of European cars before and I'll bet he looks for opportunities to turn them into interesting case studies. Great video!
Ivan, always love the follow up on the cars you touch/work on. Great to know all is well in BMW land..Would love to drive one not sure if I would like to own one....;)
Have you ever owned a BMW? There are lots of them around here. Some new, many old... they keep on running. Maybe if people would be paying more attention to maintenance they would have a lot fewer issues.
@@johnnyblue4799 You could not give me a BMW for free even. 40 plus years working in the trade, you quickly know where to not spend your money. Many first time BMW owners are also last time BMW owners and trust me it was not always lack of maintenance on the owners part. This is why most are lease vehicles "B"end "M"y "W"allet, time and time again.
A BMW . ..fine Bavarian Motor Works... just call the salvage yard now and get the crusher ready lol As always solid diag and work Ivan. You want a new doorbell sound? the BMW chime might suffice ;)
They don't call them "Big Money Wasters" for nothing! Even my old '94 7-series turned into a wallet leech. And those cars were built a bit better. ("Take it to the dealer-they'll treat you right".LOL)
Interesting diagnosis. I haven't messed with eurotrash vehicles lol. Not even the valvetronic either. But interesting to learn a bit about it. Thanks for the video, Ivan
It's always funny to see all these Hondas and Subarus and Toyotas with all sorts of problems on your channel and others, but when there's a Euro car all of a sudden it's a problem that they have a problem. Seemed like a relativity simple fix. All vehicles break sooner or later.
People just get annoyed by the complexity and lack of thought with regards to repair and servicing. BMW and audi are great cars to drive, but once they are out of warranty then you best have deep pockets.
The Hondas, Subarus and Toyotas *generally* have minor problems that are straight-forward to diagnose and repair. The Euros are usually on the other end of the spectrum. But I agree, when they run well, they are very nice to drive :)
throttle body learn will attempt to calibrate valvetronic....something lots of tech overlook.....who would think? something i attempt whenever i encounter errors when replaced valvetronic motor.
There is a specific procedure as you mentioned to set the eccentric shaft in the correct position before installing the VVT motor. Then after the valve cover is back on and the vehicle is running, there is a procedure that has to be run to learn the max and min locations of the VVT motor. I believe when the vehicle is turned off, the computer sets turns the VVT motor so that the eccentric shaft is at max lift. How do I know this you ask, I bought a used 2013 BMW 528i 102,000 miles that had a crank no start.
I baught a 2011 bmw 116i with the N13 engine, the Valvetronick is on the side almost to the back of the engine When I got it the person told me it shuts down on them and when we scan it I got the Vavetronick code so I baught a new valvertronic moto and just take out the old one and put back the new one it was tight to get in but use an aulinkey at the back of it to spin it in and tighten the bolts every time in goes in a little. When we got it all the way in, we try to start it and it never starts just turn over so we put an autel scanner on it and whenever we try to relearn it, it come to a part that it says voltage low or not reach something like that but we get the car to start and it runs a little and start to vibrate and have a little sound like it wants to back fire if that make sense, then shut back down about 4 times so I am trying to find out if there is a relay or fuse or even ECU problem, Please let me know what you think? I check all fuse in the engen area I pull out the box under the glove compartment nex to the door and check it for burn or broken fuse also in the trunk nex to the battery and I pull out the side peace in the trunk and check those fuse as well but all looks good to me, the phues I check with a tester and I ask a electrician to test the black regulator that is in the engine bay nex to the inches on the car bonnet and he say it was working, also take out that little black box at the front of the engine that you have to cut open to check fuse and they all good as well.
WTF is a " VALVETRONIC SYSTEM " ? I'll stick with my 97 Jeep GC with the 4.0 & my 68 Camaro with the 327 4 speed. " I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING " LMAO. Now that's freakin funny.
Another great video, thanks! You call it Eurotrash, and over here we despise American cars with their terrible gas milage, wasteful size and horrible fit and finish. 🙃
I'm sure you'll find out or may already know that the Valvetronic eliminates the need for the use of the throttle body at idle. If it's stuck in the open position it'll sound like an engine with no compression.
Ivan, if you want to talk about trash, let's talk about ford. My 2018 1.5 escape with 35k miles has had the long block, transmission, turbo, the remote start module and hatch module replaced. All under warranty, but once the warranty is gone, I'm selling it. What a shame for ford.
This is why I drive them into the ground.. If it isn't broke, don't fix it-- just drive it. I usually have my radio/ amp and sub pounding so I don't ever hear these little "clicking noises" that OCD people always hear with their cars. lol.. My mother is that way; there's always a new sound' or new "noise" -- that I never can hear, and yet her car drives like a dream. smh
I baught a 2011 bmw 116i with the N13 engine, the Valvetronick is on the side almost to the back of the engine When I got it the person told me it shuts down on them and when we scan it I got the Vavetronick code so I baught a new valvertronic moto and just take out the old one and put back the new one it was tight to get in but use an aulinkey at the back of it to spin it in and tighten the bolts every time in goes in a little. When we got it all the way in, we try to start it and it never starts just turn over so we put an autel scanner on it and whenever we try to relearn it, it come to a part that it says voltage low or not reach something like that but we get the car to start and it runs a little and start to vibrate and have a little sound like it wants to back fire if that make sense, then shut back down about 4 times so I am trying to find out if there is a relay or fuse or even ECU problem, Please let me know what you think? I check all fuse in the engen area I pull out the box under the glove compartment nex to the door and check it for burn or broken fuse also in the trunk nex to the battery and I pull out the side peace in the trunk and check those fuse as well but all looks good to me, the phues I check with a tester and I ask a electrician to test the black regulator that is in the engine bay nex to the inches on the car bonnet and he say it was working, also take out that little black box at the front of the engine that you have to cut open to check fuse and they all good as well
Hi Ivan, is there a chance you can make a video on troubleshooting the ignition system of a single piston motor bike (2 stroke, 4 stroke or a lawn mower)-- with the lab scope?. All the videos here in TH-cam show you how to "test" the coil with the multimeter, give a "reasonable" resistance reading but none has tested it with the lab scope to show that waveform of the good/bad coil to troubleshoot it. It would be nice to just hook that Snap On Verus Pro's RPM or KV probe, pull the cord and see if anything is wrong by comparing it to a known good value and actually see those spark/timing waveforms. 😁
I know for a fact that every time any mechanical valvetronic repait you should learn the minimum valve lift reset with scan tool. You could have do that first if scan tool is capable of doing that.
One thing that I hate about indy or drive by mechanics after they try quickly make buck and they don't know squat is when they say those words: take to BMW dealer.Dude don't string along owner.If you are not sure in yourself just don't do.BMW's are great vehicles but they do need lots of maintenance and responsible owners.By the looks of how dirty is this Bimmer it is said lot about owner.Anyway people still love them even if they make lots of TH-camrs fairly rich bitching how bad they are.Wise man once said: People will buy dead cat if you put BMW logo on it.Cheers.
People doing their own repairs on Bimmers........big mistake. And the Valvetronic has to be relearned whenever it's removed. It has to learn it's stop points.
No need to install it in special position, just run the learn function for the valvetronic motor so it can learn the new end positions and car starts immediately. Not eurotrash, just a lot more complicated than american cars and bmw's want specialized mechanics not all :)
As much as I love VW golfs and polos and BMW But when they break in electric wise they can be very complicated to fix that's the problem with Toyota and Honda you never get that issue even opel are fairly simple to fix and parts are cheap
Direct injection garbage. That design ruined a lot of cars. It just irritates me to no end they put that garbage in cars. I have two sisters that had to replace engines because the valves (intake valves mainly) start coking up and then don’t seat properly. Port and TBI fuel injection were a good idea. They made the modern engines run a lot smoother and washed the valves on the way into the cylinder. Direct injection bypasses the manifold and is injected directly into the cylinder. I sure wouldn’t mind going down the rabbit hole to see how this idea even saw the light of day. Don’t get me started on where they decided to put the water pump in some of the newer vehicles.
I was wondering how one would get the motor/actuator synchronized with the part it moved, but also thought maybe the motor would move it to a physical limit when switched on and then come back - kind of a self-learn thing. Nah, that would be too easy, wouldn't it? So "Valvetronic' means VVT by an electric actuator instead of a solenoid and oil pressure? Why? Because BMW?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Sorry! Didn't think of that..... So the Valvetronics part handles intake valve lift and duration and Vanos VVT handles valve timing.... Those German names or translations can be so funny - I remember Graupner model airplanes named the "Sinus" and the "Donald".
No worries, the turbo will fail soon, the transmission will start having issues, and he'll be calling about various emissions related failures that will become constant. SRS modules could be next, but my money is on the turbo, then emissions, then the SRS system and transmission in there somewhere, who knows where. Good for the owner it's not a V-8, then it would already have had the engine fail due to rod bearings and cylinder scoring. Was the E36 3-series the last decent car BMW made? Cripes...
What failed in my N54 were the turbo wastegate actuators. Basically two vacuum pump valves to open and close the waste gates. Fingers crossed on my turbos! I've always let them cool down before shutting the car off and never really step on the car to abuse them.
As I've commented before one one of your previous videos, I think the Eurotrash label is unwarranted as any american car with that sort of mileage would be in a similar condition. The over complication of european car complexity is driven by emissions an fuel economy, something you guys in the states dont seem to have an issue with
BMWs are excellent cars if you know how to work on them. Never use aftermarket parts on a BMW!! Very much a precision motor that Hass to be treated that way!!
BMW are excellent at keeping a person's wallet in the red. Owning German is best when done with a lease. Owning anything German is a recipe for self annihilation
i am in euro trash land i think it's more known how as anything . gm here in Holland is very bad eating chains ( i know bmw and peugot also ) but not learning the parts in the computer is a mistake , not bad quality ( i know bmw is not as good as before as all the brands ) i think as long the people dont complain these company's will not improve ther quality
A motor dies after 160000 miles, the owner first does a heck job with a cheap part and then another heck job with an OEM part. I'd say this does not classify it to be called "Eurotrash". At least, not yet.
You have no right to call X5 to trash. Look previous mickey mouse owners, who never serviced the car! So, mickey mouse is bad, not X5. Watched the video, that small problem was DIY problem. Question remains, what happened with original part? These engines are very sensitive for oil changes and oil must be euro qualified oil, not mickey mouse garbage oil. There is more magic behind the scenes than just viscosity rating.
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The valvetronic motor diy is notorious for the person doing it to not put it back in correctly. In the BMW forums there's always guys crying saying they're car won't start now after replacing it or doing a valve cover repair. Your scanner probably has a function to synchronize it after its put in to learn the max and min adjustments. Good diagnosis as usual Ivan!
Quick diagnostic and spot on! What seemed like an expensive repair, turned out to be just elbow grease and care when reassembling. Good short one :-)
Those X5 are endless moneypits. My poor daughter made the mistake to purchase it. only with 95,000 km JUNK!!! never a BMW again.. Toyota all the way. Love your vids. Hello from Alberta.
I’m a 16 BMW master tech, nice diagnosis and good video. There is a service function to relearn valvetronic limit positions when you replace the VVT motor, not sure if you can do it with an aftermarket scanner. Also the eccentric shaft is known to bind and sometimes when it does it wipes out the DME because it puts to much load on the VVT motor. Thanks for sharing
You would think the computer monitors current draw and those pulses should be put to good use and prevent this kind of driver burnout by not applying current persistently.
Thank you for the detailed information, Brandon! Yes I was afraid that the root cause of the clicking issue is a seizing Valvetronic shaft... Hopefully it lasts a while longer for the owner, but wouldn't bet any money on that haha
@@scientist100 that would only make sense but then they lose money because they didn’t sell a new DME😂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I wouldn’t bet either. Normally replace everything, the VVT motor, oil sprayer to motor, the eccentric shaft and new needle bearings for shaft👍. Use to do them as much as oil services😂
Sometimes the eccentric shaft gets stuck and spikes the valvetronic motor current and fries the DME. Lucky it wasn’t more expensive!
The ultimate driving machine. Ultimate cost to buy, ultimate cost to maintain, ultimate cost to repair, ultimate downtime, ultimate frustration…… etc.
And ultimately it’s a none running pile of overly complicated systems that someone else is lured into buying as a cheap luxury car and the cycle repeats until it ultimately end in the junkyard.
Partially true, however they do provide some extraordinary driving experience. Particularly the M models. Few other cars give that. But yes, reliability and upkeep are reasons to stay away from them.
@@eugenealymov2723 I'd rather drive a yugo or datsun....
Bmws aren't that bad 😂 but you do need money to own them as it's a prestigious car.
Ivan, great diagnosis and you moved the customer along the repair path to completion. Hope you're having a good day. Thanks for Sharing!
Ivan! Great call. I have the 2013 version of this “Eurotrash”…hahaha. If he replaced the Valvetronic, but failed to go through the limit calibration process after Install, he may have caused damage to the gearing or cam/valves. The system has to be calibrated or the motor can cause damage….for whatever that’s worth. I’ve done this job successfully with the calibration and BMW part.
Ivan thank you for making these. I'm an aspiring home mechanic and have no formal training except for books ive bought myself and poured over, and videos from youtubers like yourself. I can't always follow everything youre doing and saying but slowly i'm understanding bit by bit and just wanted to thank you for continuing to make these!
My pleasure! In this field you can learn faster from experience than "formal training" 😉
Ive been bit by this once, the motor needs to be installed in midrange of the roostercomb gear of the valvetronic, its spring loaded and will want to fall to minimum.
When the engine is started the valvetronic motor is checked by the pcm and parked at close to 80% and simultaneously the throttlebody is opened up to allow smooth start, the engine is then fully handed over to valvetronic after the pcm confirms the vanos timing is correct.
My problem was a slightly moved timing on the vanos and wrong installed valvetronic, once everything was installed correct, engine started first key.
makes me love all my corvairs more an more ,,they run an run an most are 60 years old,,,an yes my 95 transport is still with us,,,,love the 3800 in it,,,keep up the good work you do ,,fun to watch ,,
Excellent diagnostic! Would i take a 96 LT1 Impala ss over the BMW?? yup!!! 😁
thanks for the follow up update, good job showing the proof positive technique of BMW's Valvetronic failure 👍🏾😎
I'm sure this was an unsatisfying episode for you Ivan, but you made the right call. Germany has been ushering the automotive industry into the disposable car era. When you build cars that are so complicated that only dealerships have the tools or proprietary data and information to repair them, it's all over for the independent shops. Then, it's a fortune to repair what once was simple and cheap. The ultimate goal is to shorten the lives of cars and sell more new ones.
German car are total expensive piles of junk. Thank God for Toyota and Honda.
@@mikefoehr235 Honda’s been cranking out some crap for a few years now too
@@gtemnykh Pretty sure the Germans are king of crap building tho
More then 10 years old, 5 years past its expiration date.
The N55 valvetronic motor location is very inconvenient. On the N52 you can do a very quick visual inspection of the gear teeth.
So many people I know that have tried to replace valve cover gaskets or valve covers on their BMW's wind up calling me when they try to restart the engine and it sounds like it has no compression. I've done literally dozens of them valvetronic relearns. I know my Launch X431 pad II can do it, so your think tool pros should be able to do it too.
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I really enjoy watching Ivan work on a Big Money Wasted. He has expressed his love of European cars before and I'll bet he looks for opportunities to turn them into interesting case studies. Great video!
Ivan, always love the follow up on the cars you touch/work on. Great to know all is well in BMW land..Would love to drive one not sure if I would like to own one....;)
Had a similar problem with an e60 bmw, all it needed was a relearn from the scanner. Our scanner (thinktool) has that function.
Good one Ivan! Hopefully it's good for many more miles.
So prior to 160.000 they drain your wallet, then above 160.000 they really drain your wallet,,,, ok glad we got that cleared up Ivan, lol.
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Have you ever owned a BMW? There are lots of them around here. Some new, many old... they keep on running. Maybe if people would be paying more attention to maintenance they would have a lot fewer issues.
@@johnnyblue4799 You could not give me a BMW for free even. 40 plus years working in the trade, you quickly know where to not spend your money. Many first time BMW owners are also last time BMW owners and trust me it was not always lack of maintenance on the owners part. This is why most are lease vehicles "B"end "M"y "W"allet, time and time again.
@@johnnyblue4799 dream on my brother
A BMW . ..fine Bavarian Motor Works... just call the salvage yard now and get the crusher ready lol As always solid diag and work Ivan. You want a new doorbell sound? the BMW chime might suffice ;)
They don't call them "Big Money Wasters" for nothing! Even my old '94 7-series turned into a wallet leech. And those cars were built a bit better. ("Take it to the dealer-they'll treat you right".LOL)
Another Great video.....wish you had done a relative compression test. When engine was turning over, did not sound even.
Interesting diagnosis. I haven't messed with eurotrash vehicles lol. Not even the valvetronic either. But interesting to learn a bit about it. Thanks for the video, Ivan
It's always funny to see all these Hondas and Subarus and Toyotas with all sorts of problems on your channel and others, but when there's a Euro car all of a sudden it's a problem that they have a problem.
Seemed like a relativity simple fix.
All vehicles break sooner or later.
He really hate Euro cars,like we hate American crap in Europe🤣
It's just easy to pick on the European makes. Yes indeed, all cars fail. Some sooner than others.
Exactly. I don't know why Ivan holds the grudge against European cars.
People just get annoyed by the complexity and lack of thought with regards to repair and servicing. BMW and audi are great cars to drive, but once they are out of warranty then you best have deep pockets.
The Hondas, Subarus and Toyotas *generally* have minor problems that are straight-forward to diagnose and repair. The Euros are usually on the other end of the spectrum. But I agree, when they run well, they are very nice to drive :)
Love the sunglasses although I think you'd look better in some Scotty Kilmer type ones, lol.
throttle body learn will attempt to calibrate valvetronic....something lots of tech overlook.....who would think? something i attempt whenever i encounter errors when replaced valvetronic motor.
Thanks for the follow up/ closure
There is a specific procedure as you mentioned to set the eccentric shaft in the correct position before installing the VVT motor. Then after the valve cover is back on and the vehicle is running, there is a procedure that has to be run to learn the max and min locations of the VVT motor. I believe when the vehicle is turned off, the computer sets turns the VVT motor so that the eccentric shaft is at max lift. How do I know this you ask, I bought a used 2013 BMW 528i 102,000 miles that had a crank no start.
I baught a 2011 bmw 116i with the N13 engine, the Valvetronick is on the side almost to the back of the engine When I got it the person told me it shuts down on them and when we scan it I got the Vavetronick code so I baught a new valvertronic moto and just take out the old one and put back the new one it was tight to get in but use an aulinkey at the back of it to spin it in and tighten the bolts every time in goes in a little. When we got it all the way in, we try to start it and it never starts just turn over so we put an autel scanner on it and whenever we try to relearn it, it come to a part that it says voltage low or not reach something like that but we get the car to start and it runs a little and start to vibrate and have a little sound like it wants to back fire if that make sense, then shut back down about 4 times so I am trying to find out if there is a relay or fuse or even ECU problem, Please let me know what you think? I check all fuse in the engen area I pull out the box under the glove compartment nex to the door and check it for burn or broken fuse also in the trunk nex to the battery and I pull out the side peace in the trunk and check those fuse as well but all looks good to me, the phues I check with a tester and I ask a electrician to test the black regulator that is in the engine bay nex to the inches on the car bonnet and he say it was working, also take out that little black box at the front of the engine that you have to cut open to check fuse and they all good as well.
The Valvetronic and the vanos are two different systems. Vanos controls variable timing and Valvetronic is only the intake valves for the idle.
Oh boy another Break My Wallet car. So there was an error in installation of the part. Nice diag Ivan. Hope the dealer did not gouge the customer.
WTF is a " VALVETRONIC SYSTEM " ? I'll stick with my 97 Jeep GC with the 4.0 & my 68 Camaro with the 327 4 speed. " I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING " LMAO. Now that's freakin funny.
Hello Ivan! Awesome diag!
Well done ivan, you didn't repair it ha ha :-D
I'm happy you didn't have to do the job, loads of bmw nonsense to remove.
Another great video, thanks! You call it Eurotrash, and over here we despise American cars with their terrible gas milage, wasteful size and horrible fit and finish. 🙃
I like big cars American, or otherwise. I just happen to hate the price of fuel...
The BMW X5 is made in America, so it's actually UStrash.
You can stroke your dash all you want, I like being able to make it home
You are the man. I don't care what Eric says about you
What does Eric say about me? 😅
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I have never ever heard him say anything bad about you
But you'll be bathed in the warm glow of the money light and soothing dinger.
Thursday, June 16, Keep an eye to the sky Ivan. You're under a tornado watch until 11 PM
It rained lightly for 5 minutes... No wind🤣
Me ayudo todo lo que dijiste del valvotronic
I'm sure you'll find out or may already know that the Valvetronic eliminates the need for the use of the throttle body at idle. If it's stuck in the open position it'll sound like an engine with no compression.
Cool
to be fair, it did make it to 160K. Impressive.
I'm surprised that mechanical issue didn't fry the engine computer.
Very good video, thank you!
Ivan, if you want to talk about trash, let's talk about ford. My 2018 1.5 escape with 35k miles has had the long block, transmission, turbo, the remote start module and hatch module replaced. All under warranty, but once the warranty is gone, I'm selling it. What a shame for ford.
Sounds like a lemon...or a typical new Ford haha
Thanks Ivan!
So another BMW gets called Eurotrash when the owner screws up on the repair? Nice one Ivan. ;-)
But repair was attempted because of "clicking" sound. Likely eccentric shaft and valvetrain components are worn and seizing up...big $$ JUNK!
I think on BMWs at 160k miles the "Change Engine" service interval light comes on.
This is why I drive them into the ground.. If it isn't broke, don't fix it-- just drive it. I usually have my radio/ amp and sub pounding so I don't ever hear these little "clicking noises" that OCD people always hear with their cars. lol.. My mother is that way; there's always a new sound' or new "noise" -- that I never can hear, and yet her car drives like a dream. smh
I baught a 2011 bmw 116i with the N13 engine, the Valvetronick is on the side almost to the back of the engine When I got it the person told me it shuts down on them and when we scan it I got the Vavetronick code so I baught a new valvertronic moto and just take out the old one and put back the new one it was tight to get in but use an aulinkey at the back of it to spin it in and tighten the bolts every time in goes in a little. When we got it all the way in, we try to start it and it never starts just turn over so we put an autel scanner on it and whenever we try to relearn it, it come to a part that it says voltage low or not reach something like that but we get the car to start and it runs a little and start to vibrate and have a little sound like it wants to back fire if that make sense, then shut back down about 4 times so I am trying to find out if there is a relay or fuse or even ECU problem, Please let me know what you think? I check all fuse in the engen area I pull out the box under the glove compartment nex to the door and check it for burn or broken fuse also in the trunk nex to the battery and I pull out the side peace in the trunk and check those fuse as well but all looks good to me, the phues I check with a tester and I ask a electrician to test the black regulator that is in the engine bay nex to the inches on the car bonnet and he say it was working, also take out that little black box at the front of the engine that you have to cut open to check fuse and they all good as well
I knew it had to do with the owner not doing the re-learning process after the new parts were installed.
Hi Ivan, is there a chance you can make a video on troubleshooting the ignition system of a single piston motor bike (2 stroke, 4 stroke or a lawn mower)-- with the lab scope?. All the videos here in TH-cam show you how to "test" the coil with the multimeter, give a "reasonable" resistance reading but none has tested it with the lab scope to show that waveform of the good/bad coil to troubleshoot it. It would be nice to just hook that Snap On Verus Pro's RPM or KV probe, pull the cord and see if anything is wrong by comparing it to a known good value and actually see those spark/timing waveforms. 😁
Just get some captures of a known good and use that for reference 👍
That's almost as good as a happy ending
Euro trash it is Ivan, Ur BMW diags r becoming my latest addiction.
I know for a fact that every time any mechanical valvetronic repait you should learn the minimum valve lift reset with scan tool. You could have do that first if scan tool is capable of doing that.
One thing that I hate about indy or drive by mechanics after they try quickly make buck and they don't know squat is when they say those words: take to BMW dealer.Dude don't string along owner.If you are not sure in yourself just don't do.BMW's are great vehicles but they do need lots of maintenance and responsible owners.By the looks of how dirty is this Bimmer it is said lot about owner.Anyway people still love them even if they make lots of TH-camrs fairly rich bitching how bad they are.Wise man once said: People will buy dead cat if you put BMW logo on it.Cheers.
People doing their own repairs on Bimmers........big mistake. And the Valvetronic has to be relearned whenever it's removed. It has to learn it's stop points.
Try the Keith wiggle test!
Ivan, watch thinktool do you have pro or pros or pros+ ???? I'm looking to upgrade from my launch.
Pros
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics thank you for the quick reply.
That's not a chime, it's a reminder that you should've had it crushed and bought a new one then crush that after three years or fewer.
back on the road for now, next week or month, stuck again with the same issue. 🤣
Ivan, which pico scope do you have?
"gonna have it towed to my buddy's shop, who gives a f that he's never worked on a BMW before"
No need to install it in special position, just run the learn function for the valvetronic motor so it can learn the new end positions and car starts immediately. Not eurotrash, just a lot more complicated than american cars and bmw's want specialized mechanics not all :)
This is called progress?
cool
As much as I love VW golfs and polos and BMW But when they break in electric wise they can be very complicated to fix that's the problem with Toyota and Honda you never get that issue even opel are fairly simple to fix and parts are cheap
Direct injection garbage. That design ruined a lot of cars. It just irritates me to no end they put that garbage in cars. I have two sisters that had to replace engines because the valves (intake valves mainly) start coking up and then don’t seat properly. Port and TBI fuel injection were a good idea. They made the modern engines run a lot smoother and washed the valves on the way into the cylinder. Direct injection bypasses the manifold and is injected directly into the cylinder. I sure wouldn’t mind going down the rabbit hole to see how this idea even saw the light of day. Don’t get me started on where they decided to put the water pump in some of the newer vehicles.
Throw more modules at it!!!
Good morning
I was wondering how one would get the motor/actuator synchronized with the part it moved, but also thought maybe the motor would move it to a physical limit when switched on and then come back - kind of a self-learn thing. Nah, that would be too easy, wouldn't it? So "Valvetronic' means VVT by an electric actuator instead of a solenoid and oil pressure? Why? Because BMW?
No VVT is separate, it's called VANOS.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Interesting - so what does the "Valvetronic" part actually do, if not VVT?
@@dustcommander100 Google it!
@@dustcommander100 A teardown at about the 7 45 mark you get a nice view. th-cam.com/video/ODrETDBMv8k/w-d-xo.html
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Sorry! Didn't think of that..... So the Valvetronics part handles intake valve lift and duration and Vanos VVT handles valve timing.... Those German names or translations can be so funny - I remember Graupner model airplanes named the "Sinus" and the "Donald".
No worries, the turbo will fail soon, the transmission will start having issues, and he'll be calling about various emissions related failures that will become constant. SRS modules could be next, but my money is on the turbo, then emissions, then the SRS system and transmission in there somewhere, who knows where. Good for the owner it's not a V-8, then it would already have had the engine fail due to rod bearings and cylinder scoring. Was the E36 3-series the last decent car BMW made? Cripes...
What failed in my N54 were the turbo wastegate actuators. Basically two vacuum pump valves to open and close the waste gates. Fingers crossed on my turbos! I've always let them cool down before shutting the car off and never really step on the car to abuse them.
Hey! What's with the euro-trash talk? Seems this one was US-technician trash... 😛
get any pics of that chevy van
Ivan it’s amazing how people don’t check their own work before calling for help. Good for you but come on. Hope all is well 😊
Why do BMW have so much trouble with valve matic It's nut's how everybody else they have no bother except for the 5.4 3 valve
Good design but you got to know bmws I like the valvetrain motor better than oil that clogs in the things
As I've commented before one one of your previous videos, I think the Eurotrash label is unwarranted as any american car with that sort of mileage would be in a similar condition. The over complication of european car complexity is driven by emissions an fuel economy, something you guys in the states dont seem to have an issue with
No parts required 😁
Why do people keep throwing part's at stuff without paying somebody to do proper checks first
Ivan, stop insulting trash by calling it a bmw!
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Only worth that's easy on a BMW is signing it over to The junkyard
Where can I get a PHAD T shirt?
The swag store keeps getting pushed back to the wait list lol...but it's coming sooner or later!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I'd hate to have to get a Chinese knock off 😆
BMWs are excellent cars if you know how to work on them. Never use aftermarket parts on a BMW!! Very much a precision motor that Hass to be treated that way!!
Yes and don't forget to maintain the engine with the prescribed oils
BMW are excellent at keeping a person's wallet in the red. Owning German is best when done with a lease. Owning anything German is a recipe for self annihilation
Stupid Chime. Sounds like you're in a casino.
i am in euro trash land i think it's more known how as anything . gm here in Holland is very bad eating chains ( i know bmw and peugot also ) but not learning the parts in the computer is a mistake , not bad quality ( i know bmw is not as good as before as all the brands ) i think as long the people dont complain these company's will not improve ther quality
BMW = Bring Money Wallet
A motor dies after 160000 miles, the owner first does a heck job with a cheap part and then another heck job with an OEM part.
I'd say this does not classify it to be called "Eurotrash". At least, not yet.
I'd sell that piece of junk as soon as I got it running.
Next video, they forgot to reconnect some ground wires.
Now it needs a new computer 😄🤣😂
"Eurolife"
I love how much you hate BMW and VW.. lol..
I concur
Cam phasers AND actualors need to be replaced every 100k. Same as Fords
Well, they are certainly better than the Russian Lada, Moskvich, etc. 😉
Totally different class of vehicle, each suited to its own purpose and environment 😂
BMW. Big Money Waisted
You have no right to call X5 to trash. Look previous mickey mouse owners, who never serviced the car! So, mickey mouse is bad, not X5. Watched the video, that small problem was DIY problem. Question remains, what happened with original part? These engines are very sensitive for oil changes and oil must be euro qualified oil, not mickey mouse garbage oil. There is more magic behind the scenes than just viscosity rating.
Broken Money Waster....LOL
Correction ‘over priced eurotrash’
Let the euro-trash be euro-trash...Fancy throttle body...What's wrong with drive by wire or cable throttle body...of course is BMW...