Why are 55% of EV Owners selling their Electric Car within a few months of getting it?

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  • @thisisnumber0
    @thisisnumber0 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +26

    This isn't an EU thing, it's the partnership of the UN and World Economic Forum.

  • @paulineprice9534
    @paulineprice9534 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +38

    When the purchasers (whether finance companies, private companies, councils and service companies etc) realise the losses they are facing, that's when the proverbial will hit the fan .... it could bring the whole motor industry down surely whether EV or otherwise. One could be forgiven in thinking it is deliberate 🤔

    • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
      @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's all deliberate.

    • @nsweeney3970
      @nsweeney3970 27 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      ​@WeAreAllDoomed-n5iAgree 💯

  • @hughblack6831
    @hughblack6831 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

    My neighbour has a Mini electric - he tells me that it barely does 100 miles on a full charge.
    A horse could do better.

    • @GolfWhisky
      @GolfWhisky 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      When my Yaris Hybrid will almost do that on a gallon I have to ask what it costs to fully charge that Mini at a public charger versus my petrol costs. Of course my Yaris is £8000 cheaper to buy new, and as a massive over-esimate I spend no more than £300 a year on petrol, so that gives me a 25 year headstart even if the Mini owner was illegally tapping into their neighbours electricity supply and charging it for free.

    • @bordersw1239
      @bordersw1239 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Does he like it?

    • @mrbig7718
      @mrbig7718 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@bordersw1239 obviously not if a horse can do better😂

    • @ambassadorfromreality1125
      @ambassadorfromreality1125 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      He probably has balls of steel like me.
      9th year as ev driver.
      3 years in the desert in Kuwait and abu Dhabi looking for oil in a chevy pickup - Toyota land cruiser no roads just sand.
      And to hear all this whingeing about evs when it is obvious that the whingers are just echoing stuff they heard on the Internet.
      The superior electrical drive has displaced the old diesel engine on the railways and large ships like aircraft carriers even if if means just using a diesel as a generator.
      Modern batteries made the electrification of cars possible and inevitable, superior technology always wins out, landline versus mobile , kodak versus digital.
      The chinese realised this decades ago and are poised to wipe out the European car industry because they are hanging on to the hope that they can keep going as before.

    • @mrbig7718
      @mrbig7718 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@ambassadorfromreality1125 and there you go doing exactly what you just claimed everyone else does🤣. I almost fell for it until the diesel powered locomotive thing. You should look in the mirror or actual research. Or maybe look up George Carlin about people bullshittin. Oh that Kodak thing has been repeated over and over but movies still use Kodak and fuji film. Plus evs were invented in the 1800s and still the problem back then is the same as now in comparison. Nothing has changed. No matter how much things change, they still remain the same. Just a new version of an old scene.

  • @SquidwardhatesEVs
    @SquidwardhatesEVs 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    Great video Barrie. I'll tell you something Barrie, I drove pass a Maxus commercial vehicles dealership around Cannock in the West Midlands and I saw one of their EV pickup truck for sale at £28796, so I got home and later I went on Autotrader to see this EV pick up for sale and I was shocked how much was discounted, original price was £51230, so £22424 off. Absolutely unbelievable, I can see why you are worried and I don't blame. Keep up the good work and stay strong.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yep they got a £27000 registration bonus to get rid of about 700, you could get them for £50 a month

    • @SquidwardhatesEVs
      @SquidwardhatesEVs 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BarrieCrampton I'll tell you another thing Barrie, in order to shift Maxus T90 pickup truck model, they introduced a diesel version in the UK, it's absolutely hilarious.

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    The problem is probably the lack of infrastructure making them unsuitable for so many people. But in a country that cannot even maintain the roads properly the chances of suitable infrastructure popping up soon is just fanciful.

    • @danielcooper6423
      @danielcooper6423 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The infrastructure just goes to prove the government aren't really that interested in it, consumers seem the lack of infrastructure and simply don't want to risk it

    • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
      @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why repair roads when they don't want us using them! Proves what their plan is! They don't care what condition the road is in when driving a RangeRover.

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i They seem to want us on buses and on push bikes, but poor roads are not much use for those.

    • @bigfluffytowels
      @bigfluffytowels ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Infrastructure is coming along nicely. No problem charging up away from home except for the cost.....89p per kw is extortionate. The rapid chargers are in a high profit making cycle to fuel investment. Home charging is around 7p. The biggest issue is you need a driveway. You need to own your home. Or have a landlord happy to have the electrics worked on. If you live in a flat, communal property, terraced houses it's going to be expensive.

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@bigfluffytowels There you go. if infrastucture is in place it is useless if it is too expensive, and nobody is going to build it unless they are making money from it.

  • @Mrmaddog
    @Mrmaddog 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    In this country we can't even build a railway from the south to the midlands so how the hell are we going to upgrade the entire electric grid to support the charging of millions of EVs..

  • @jamiepops62
    @jamiepops62 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Figure's just released state that ford have only sold 6.85% EV's in the first 11 months of this year. How are they going make that figure up to 22% in the last 4wks?

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Could the short ownership simply be dealers "buying" their own new cars?
    It just doesn't make sense.
    I can't believe any private owner would sell a car under 6 months of ownership. I don't know anyone who'd keep a car less than a year, unless totalled.

    • @RobertSmith-di5ll
      @RobertSmith-di5ll 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      thats what I believe - government penalties are possibly involved? - just because an EV is sold does not mean the owner then bought an ICE

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      I’m pretty sure there is some fix going on

    • @mrbig7718
      @mrbig7718 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@RobertSmith-di5ll, regardless its a false purchase to get out of a penalty that shouldn't exist. Obviously the majority of the population doesn't want them. I'm not against evs and I believe that they should be an option, but forcing them on people is only making it worse.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree, but this is what the data says, and it’s a prevalent finding.
      Dealer registrations that were never privately owned & now offered for sale are characterised by very low mileage, such as under 100 miles, massive discounts over brand new price, despite being for all practical purposes, new.
      They’ve been doing this increasingly during second half 2024.
      Because customers are buying nowhere near enough cars for this absurd % of total bar.
      As Aussie TH-camr pointed out that it’s “The 3 Fs” that are almost all of the purchases of new EVs.
      Fleets
      Fanboys
      Freebies
      The fleets have mostly run a cycle or are coming towards the end of their first cycle.
      There’s blood on the floor. The number that matters is total cost of ownership through whatever their cycle is, typically 60-80k miles or 4 years, whichever is first.
      They’ve a fleet discount on buying many new vehicles.
      There’s maintenance, two types: planned and unscheduled. In addition to cost, you’ve lost time and you’ve ability to get spares same day or next day latest as well as their cost.
      At exit, you’ve residual value.
      For the first time in fleet history, there’s essentially no residual value. Even at auction, they’re all but given away.
      This has devastated the fleet managers, who are paid on hitting agreed targets. They’re not getting bonuses.
      They’re more expensive to buy.
      The drivers often don’t like them because, driven hard as typically they are by reps, salespeople and service engineers, they need charging way too often, with attendant wasted time, lost business, disappointed customers and everyone pretty grumpy.
      Servicing is running ok, but what people weren’t told is that because the cars are up to 50% heavier than their ICE equivalents, they kill especially rear tyres. Tyres are usually specialty tyres, again because of weight, requiring special construction & they can cost double the regular tyre. I don’t think they break down more or less often than ICE cars but where they suffer is, for some models, difficulty in getting spares at all, let alone same day.
      Running costs for electricity, unless they’re Teslas, with low cost, fast chargers, is not cheaper than liquid fuel especially if the driver cannot fast charge at home, as many cannot.
      But it’s the devastating depreciation that means few to no fleets will go around the cycle again. It’s almost doubled the total cost of ownership, from higher initial cost to near total loss at exit.

    • @danielcooper6423
      @danielcooper6423 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If that's true. It's more worrying. These cars are 3/4 years old and in that time nobody has bought it expect the car dealer from himself. That's an industry that can't survive, it's unsustainable

  • @colinmould2219
    @colinmould2219 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    i predict a lot of main dealers are going out business in 2025.

  • @bigjoeangel
    @bigjoeangel 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    I think (hope) 2025 will be the year of truth. People are sick of the lies.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What, you mean that people will realise that thinking we can continue driving around burning fossil fuels ad infinitum is a fantasy?....Which it is.

  • @Nearly-Insane
    @Nearly-Insane 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    I returned my Leaf after 5 days.
    I sold my Kia Niro after 4 months.
    I've now got a Passat 2.0TDI and a Citroen C5 Aircross Hybrid.
    Unless they produce a BEV that can do 550 miles + and it costs 35p per kWh and charge to 100% in 3 minutes I'll never buy an EV again.

    • @EwanM11
      @EwanM11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Did you get a home charger?

    • @enrobsorussell
      @enrobsorussell ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The question for you just has to be.....
      Why did you buy the 2 Evs in the 1st place....did you actually believe the EVangelists, the govt, the MSM and jump in without doing research....did you fall for all the lies & propaganda?

  • @leecromer3289
    @leecromer3289 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    So, in actual fact, the massive rise in sales isn’t new registrations, it’s re sales…

  • @andyhobbs2812
    @andyhobbs2812 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Your so right Barrie, I'm 71, and have had 4 BMW's, all second hand and never had any motor problems. Mostly driven in Germany on the Autobahns ( 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 military) and driven home to UK on leave with family.

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    How about not wanting to have something that can and definitely has simply set itself on fire, parked near their homes? Porsche has sent letters to owners telling them not to! A Mercedes in SouthKorea, set itself and over 100 other vehicles alight! Mercedes now being sued, as they lied about the make of batteries used in their vehicles. Teslas that crash and cremate the occupants? Electric buses in London setting themselves alight? Expensive charging costs when away from home, if they work that is! Plus lack of security at charging locations! Range anxiety! Very poor range when cold or towing! Loads more I can think of!

  • @AlfaBmwKarma
    @AlfaBmwKarma 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Audio is too low Barrie. Boost your levels please it's currently making the adverts deafening. Thanks buddy, fantastic content.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Honestly it’s fine on all my stuff, and the original video is perfect

    • @hunchanchoc8418
      @hunchanchoc8418 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Barrie, your audio IS always low compared with other people's videos.

  • @Neil-r6o
    @Neil-r6o 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    We should call them what they are. Disposable Battery Vehicles. DBVs. Takes the shine off a bit.

  • @matthewgodwin3050
    @matthewgodwin3050 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Going to Colin Wanker at the 'Lack Of Intelligence Unit' and expecting him to give truthful advice, is like looking on Jeremy Corbyn's bookshelf, and expecting to find a copy of the Torah.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      lol 😂

  • @danielcooper6423
    @danielcooper6423 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Many reasons why Barrie, they're not desirable enough to take the risk. Infrastructures is bad, poor range, heavy depreciation. The appetite for EVs isn't there, they are trying with adverts but it's not fooling enough people to buy a car that is already more expensive to buy.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@danielcooper6423 You forgot expensive to buy initially.

    • @danielcooper6423
      @danielcooper6423 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewwaller5913 I've adapted it 😂...that said I've also forgotten the higher body repair costs, the insurance costs especially now Porsche drivers are getting letters to not charge near their house. We need to give it up as a bad idea.

  • @andyhobbs2812
    @andyhobbs2812 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Barrie, can you please turn up your slightly, thanks. If nobody tells you, you will not know. Have a good break into the New Year, obviously included your family. Greetings from Germany.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧😎👍🍀

  • @TK-Will.
    @TK-Will. 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If a cars got 3+ previous owners, it’s a red flag to me 🚩….. what’s wrong with it🤔. Especially if it’s only a few years old.

  • @ryanlarson4700
    @ryanlarson4700 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    If people are going EV for the environment then they should be driving the EV they got for as long as possible. Trading it in after a short ownership is just demanding more emissions be released to make that new EV.

    • @freeforester1717
      @freeforester1717 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      See Mark P Mills discussing 1) EV fantasies at Hillsdale College, or even better, 2) talking about the delusional transition to net zero at SKAGEN SFONDENE - it ain't gonna work, no matter how hard they try, the raw minerals needed to make the battery alone aren't there to be mined, leaving the environ-mental impact of digging up half a million (500,000) pounds of rock in order to produce a single 500lb battery for each and every proposed disposable battery vehicle. The only thing 'green' about their production and use is the naivety of those buying them, which they find out when they come to sell them again.

  • @matthewbacon5734
    @matthewbacon5734 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    You talk common sense Barrie. I have never seen an EV on fire but I have only seen and I would overestimate ten ICE cars on fire driving a van for nearly forty years. I don't have a driveway to charge an EV, I wouldn't want that car charging next to my house just incase. Call me risk averse but the Actuaries are now adding up the Insurance risks from EV's and Insurance companies don't want them in their car park? In their current form they are a dead duck, why plant a potential bomb under your own block of flats?

    • @jasonaris5316
      @jasonaris5316 18 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      New builds with integral garages will not have internal door access (I suspect due to the increased fire risk)

  • @g0fvt
    @g0fvt 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I smell a rat with the short ownership periods, sensibly none of the cars are terrible. Possibly the range did not live up to expectations, or perhaps they were upsold a new EV. The market is being interfered with by various taxes and penalties, dealers and manufacturers may decide to take a hit on the EVs...

  • @warrenknight5373
    @warrenknight5373 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Short ownership often indicative with lease deals not just an EV issue

  • @paulineprice9534
    @paulineprice9534 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    I assume majority of EV's are pcp, motorbility or company cars and vans. Wonder what % that is?

    • @a1paulh911
      @a1paulh911 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was wandering the same thing about Motability, as death their rates might play a significant factor...

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      most BEVs are electric scooters.

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Your looking at dealer and lease pre registered cars mate. What percentage of the population could take a 30% hit in value by selling on an almost new car. Certainly no one I know or have ever known has done this.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They are private sales

    • @bordersw1239
      @bordersw1239 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ . The only figure we know is at present almost 90% of EV sales are not to private buyers.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@bordersw1239 it’s private sellers on motorway, dealers buy them, dealers are separated

  • @acelectricalsecurity
    @acelectricalsecurity 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a BMW 330e, it was meant to do 26miles on a full charge it struggled to hit double figures in the winter no chance, obviously the battery was on its way out, at £10k for a battery it had to go, I switched to a petrol car.

  • @burgesskab
    @burgesskab 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    So is it possibly the same few people buying and selling the EVs to push the sales numbers up?
    Do they show the milage the EV has covered during their ownership period?

  • @matthewbacon5734
    @matthewbacon5734 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    EVs are dead. I don't want one, I want a reliable petrol car that does the job, I don't want to spend an hour or more finding and then charging a pretend car. Brummmmmmmm! Fill up and go thank you.

  • @GrahamNewman-mq7gr
    @GrahamNewman-mq7gr 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    In my opinion a lot of this EV sales properganda , all these " Cars only been owned months is very suspect" . It is not beyond posibility the usual suspects AUTOTRADER/ CARWOW ect. have for some devious reason got involved . This type of thing has happened before in other industries. Are these GENUINE ADVERTS ONE WONDERS !!.

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yep all those EVs I see on the road , pure propaganda, I'm sure the government pays people to drive around in them all the time, 5 years ago I hardly saw any , now there's too many to count, but I'm sure you are right, they are government paid operatives driving around trying to make it looks like there's more than there is 🤔...............🤣😂🤣

  • @Neil-r6o
    @Neil-r6o 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would have thought an original design mini (excluding the external seams) with a hyper efficient petrol engine would hit the spot these days.

  • @andyhobbs2812
    @andyhobbs2812 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Barrie, I've got a 2007 , 335 d , able to use it here in Germany. Lovely Bubbly.

  • @NT-hr3eu
    @NT-hr3eu 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Trying to navigate the EV market...secondhand, noticed on Autotrader it just gives you the range based on new..how are you supposed to gauge if it suits your needs without that information? I don't think people have time to go to check each car manually. For older EVs it would be useful to know the replacement battery costs. Are there facilities for official battery replacements to get a new warranty to give you peace of mind for another few years?

  • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
    @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The used car market in the UK grew 4.3% between July and September 2024, used EV sales grew 57% in the same period so obviously nobody wants EVs......😕

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Really, and how many EVs did that amount to? Did you know that used Ford Fiestas outsold every single make and model of EV? In fact just used black cars outsold every single make and model of EV, used EVs aren’t selling and the sales figures are being manipulated too, get it?

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂 th-cam.com/video/V_ov2JcOPfs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BL90hlQm_Oow1r4v

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@BarrieCrampton It amounted to just over 53,000 used EV's changing hands in that period Used EV sales were 2.7% of all used sales in summer 2024, up from 1.8% of used sales in summer 2023. The growth is proportional to the EV population as a percentage of the total car population...it doesn't take a genius to work out that in summer 2025 used EVs will have grown again as the total population of EVs continues to grow. On my channel earlier this yearI pointed out that 2022 was the first year that more petrol and diesel cars were scrapped than there were new ones coming onto the market. Calculating scrapage rates over a 10 year period shows that they are more consistent year on year than new car sales which fluctuate far more. In a mature market like the UK with little increase in the total car population this is resulting in a slow but sure replacement of ICE by EV.

    • @brandonfromlondonuk3484
      @brandonfromlondonuk3484 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 why do you ev evanglists watch these channels ?

    • @tyrantwitness2482
      @tyrantwitness2482 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Have you not learnt the lesson with percentages? Whenever percentages are quoted, you are being conned. Gates loves percentages for that very reason.

  • @johnpassey3176
    @johnpassey3176 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    When I bought my modified SAAB 9-5 AERO, the previous owner had it for 3 days, he lost his licence seeing what it would do on the way home. Maybe everyone is doing this?

    • @Climatetruth
      @Climatetruth 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wow… thats the fast actual ban in the world… rubbish! Am sorry but it will be at least 6 months for the summons to come through…

    • @johnpassey3176
      @johnpassey3176 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Climatetruth I guess if you get pulled up at 130+mph in a car that at the time was very hard to insure you know whats going to happen 🤷

    • @Climatetruth
      @Climatetruth 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ I cant believe you used that excuse for people selling there EV… we all know why people sell them… they are just not fit for purpose due to costs… and charge time costs… but i hope he got a lengthy ban for not having insurance..

  • @chrisaris8756
    @chrisaris8756 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looking at the auctions, Addison Lee have just put 30 two year old Tesla model 3s to auction. Wonder why?

    • @bentullett6068
      @bentullett6068 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      On lease hire agreements. These cars will circulate the auctions for many weeks now.

  • @anthonydevono8833
    @anthonydevono8833 55 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The only thing is if you are going to buy one with your own money you are in for the long haul second hand market of older style ones seems to be ok.The newer style ones that cost a fortune are going to take a different market to sell to they have been designed to sell on lease or Pcp

  • @rbejva
    @rbejva 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I test drove a Polestar 2 and a Volvo V60. Honestly, the V60 was more fun to drive (slower to accelerate, but with more character) and had a lot more space. It was a no-brainer.

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Polestar 2 felt incredibly cramped during my test drive weekend. My knee hurt after a few hours of driving and I had less space on my seat than in my Toyota Aygo back in the days.

  • @GolfWhisky
    @GolfWhisky 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    87 days of reading the single source of truth on EV's versus 6 weeks of reality.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      lol 👍

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Allow me to interject with 3 months short of 6 years of actual real world EV owning experience. 113,000 km of trouble free driving in my EV here in France which has saved me at least €10,000 on fuel and another €2,500 in not having to service the oily bits or replace brake pads and disks which I would have had to do on an ICE by this time. Makes me laugh when you Brits whinge about public charging on 'long hauls'....you don't know what long hauls are! As soon as EVs could do 3 hours of autoroute driving without having to stop to recharge (about 350 km) I bought one. There are rapid chargers on all the main routes these days all over Europe so long hauls like we do to Switzerland and the UK to visit family are a doddle.

    • @GolfWhisky
      @GolfWhisky 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 you also have functioning trains in France.
      First world healthcare.
      Access to a GP.
      Access to a Dentists.
      Housing.
      I don't know why Africans are always whinging about being hungry, I just walk into the supermarket and it's rammed full of food.

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 fuel is more expensive on BEVs, per 100km.
      Everybody who ever rented a BEV and evaluated it on a road trip knows this.
      So your data is wrong.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@GolfWhisky We do indeed have a great transport network here and it still puzzles me why the UK cannot seem to built flat, quiet road surfaces.

  • @stevebobojones
    @stevebobojones 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Barrie,I watched an EV Auction selling Evs Registered as Taxis the Firm was off loading them,apparently you can get a grant if you use an Ev as aTaxi.

  • @marumaru6084
    @marumaru6084 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    EVs are like flairs they are forever tarnished.

  • @GrahamNewman-mq7gr
    @GrahamNewman-mq7gr 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of these Dealers are not loosing the % of cash been banded about. In the Motor Trade there are a "Lot of backdoor discounts to dealers when problems like EVs arise " . Mr. Joe Public looks at New Price ( Which is wrong) then looks at second hand asking price. Concludes A-B is loss. " BUT " You do not know what was the Actual Paid Price Was in actual cash.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s cost the manufacturers £4 billion in discounts, expected to rise to £6 billion, 😂 that’s a loss !

    • @GrahamNewman-mq7gr
      @GrahamNewman-mq7gr 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @BarrieCrampton If they had engaged brain before starting on this road to disaster they would not be in this position. They probably listened to some of the Bearded Wonders like you have found in government depts. I watch all your videos 110% CORRECT . EVs are not going to work in the forseaable future. The hoards of the great unwashed will keep pushing it to the bitter end regardless.

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When thinking about the state of the motor trade and EV mandates, for some reason the film Frankenstein comes to mind! Only the vision is of people carrying lit torches through Downing Street, searching for KeirStalin! Where is the Davos monster?

  • @pixie706
    @pixie706 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why can't there be a trial scheme instead of having to buy any car then regretting it

  • @richardharris7214
    @richardharris7214 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When an EV can drive 650 miles in the winter on a single charge, take 5 minutes to recharge and costs half its current price, I will buy one. Until then I want to be able to drive the car I want, not the one Ed Miliband is financially squeezing me into which he thinks, in some quite utterly bizarre madness, thinks will help change the weather.

  • @trevortaylor4113porsche
    @trevortaylor4113porsche 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I believe this is the reality the older the ev gets people question the battery life instead of the milage on a petrol/diesel car, if you have a 40k milage on a petrol car in ten years time you know what it's done...but if you own an electric car with 40k in ten years time you're not going to be worried about the motor but the battery, and in my opinion with other reasons that's why ev depreciate so badly...people aren't stupid they think with their wallet closed inside their brain before buying

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Rubbish!!...There are thousands of EVs out there with > 200,000 miles on the original pack. Check out the 430,000 mile Tesla Model S features on Autotrader. With original battery and motors and still >80% of original range. I'm coming up 6 years and 113,000 km on my Kia e-Niro and have experienced no range loss at all. This would be no surprise to you if you understood anything about batteries and how BMS systems work.

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Totally debunked , plenty of EVs well over 200,000 miles now ( average Ice car in UK is scrapped around 125k ) .
      Warranty on an Ice car 5 years or 60,000 miles ( if it's serviced regularly to manufacturers specifications) average EV warranty 8 years or 100,000 miles ( quite a few Tesla's have 125k warranty) .
      I'd sooner buy a used EV than a used Ice car and as someone who's been driving for 41 years I've had quite a few Ice cars ( that have cost a packet to keep on the road ) .

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@davefitzpatrick4841 My experience exactly having owned ICE for 45 years and an EV for nearly 6. Eventually this will sink into the heads of the general population.

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think these are cars given as company cars to the main bosses of dealerships? I know that is a common process that happens. They register it in their name through the company, put a few miles on the car and then get another car when they reach a set mileage target. The car they did have, will be placed back in the used car stock portfolio to sell.

  • @MrkBO8
    @MrkBO8 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    charge time will be the #1 reason people reject ev's

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why? My EV takes 15 hours or more to charge at home as I don't even have a charger, just use the granny cable. But do I care? Of course not!...Cars spend most of their time not moving, if you do 12,000 miles a year (above the UK average) then your car is stationary 96% of the time...Get home from work, plug in and you're all set to go again in the morning. Given that most people only do 200-250 miles a week then you only need to plug in at home once a week...£0.075/kWh on Octopus so 200 miles of driving for £4.70. Beat that with your noisy, smelly fossil burner!

    • @MrkBO8
      @MrkBO8 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Great. Now what would you do if you couldnt charge at home, you will line up to charge like everyone else does and if you are someone who is going to have to line up ev's are a poor choice because time is limited. Also, you live in the UK lol, you dont have any real distance to drive. If I want to drive to Sydney there are only 3 stops and Sydney is~280km away. 5-600km/day driving is not unusual for Australia around holiday time and that means they need an ev and a real car or just settle for the real car that can do it all

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MrkBO8a modern EV will do 250-300 miles on a charge, by then your bladder is ready for a break ( sooner if you have kids orca Mrs ) in ten years time EVs will have 400-500+ miles of range ( already EVs that can do 500 miles on a charge at highway speeds ) and charge in a matter of minutes and by then infrastructure would of improved ( yes it needs to improve) so fear not in 10 years time most EVs will accommodate even the haters like yourself 👍😁

    • @MrkBO8
      @MrkBO8 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@davefitzpatrick4841 Im not a hater, Ive been in the solar business since 2011 and i know charging is a joke because even though we have access to inhouse labour, its not financially viable for us to build an off grid charge station because the cars charge to slowly. Making things worse, the majority of ev owners charge at home so there is not enough customers to make charging a viable business either

    • @hunchanchoc8418
      @hunchanchoc8418 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@davefitzpatrick4841 Not in 10 years. The distribution grid does not have the capacity to carry the currents required in order to charge EVs in a few minutes if they became widely adopted.

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Barrie, your audio level has gone skewy again. Not loud enough.
    I've cranked you up to max on headphones.
    Then the ads scare the crap out of me because they're so loud. Your audio should be at the same level.
    Good vid 👍🏻🇬🇧

    • @stevenjones916
      @stevenjones916 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      His audio is perfectly fine to me.

    • @utinirhino7658
      @utinirhino7658 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same here, really quiet.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Honestly it’s fine on mine, you need to go to the cog at the bottom of the video, and make sure you have stable audio switched on

    • @NineLayerNige
      @NineLayerNige 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I too had to turn up the volume on this particular video. I tried to enable Stable Volume, but its greyed out and cannot be switched on, on this video. I checked on other videos and it can be enabled, so something is wrong.

  • @foppo100
    @foppo100 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My daughter would like an EV for her next car.She is a nurse drives about 20 miles to get to work and back.She can't charge at home so at work it is a small hospital would be ideal.Many people need destination chargers.

    • @FirstLast-rh9jw
      @FirstLast-rh9jw 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If its not on the correct tariff from home, then its uneconomic, whether its a destination charger or whatever it is.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Buy a diesel Fiesta.

    • @EwanM11
      @EwanM11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Unless she's willing to fork out for a second hand Tesla or equivalent with enough range so you can drive all week without having to think about charging, i wouldn't advise it.

  • @tyrantwitness2482
    @tyrantwitness2482 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    How much do FullyCharged pay to leave comments on this channel?

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    But dealers are holding back NICE cars, till the new year! NewInternalCombustionEngine vehicles.

  • @weegaz22
    @weegaz22 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Rise in interest rates meaning you may pay up to 20% more over RRP the whole course of the finance term, couple that with really bad depreciation means people are realising their getting badly f***ed by buying an EV when it comes to money they get back at the other end 4 years down the line when they trade in for the next car.
    For example just looking on autotrader a new model Y performance is £64k and the finance itself costs you £11k over the term of the vehicle...and then you look at the fact I can pick up a 2 year old Model Y performance with 38k miles for £34k...thats almost 50% loss of value in 2 years...can you imagine what it'll be after 4 years?
    People are changing cos they're getting royaly F*****. If they bought a new Golf R new at £40k they can sell it 2 years later for 30-35k depending on mileage, thats only a max of 25% lost compared to half your money.

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Barry, 10 miles a day? Get a Brompton!

  • @Andy-e8n7g
    @Andy-e8n7g 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My 10 year old EV only has 1 previous over and the savings over the last 5 years of ownership has returned the purchase price.. I guess this small sample of owners' circumstances have changed unlike my own?

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s a high proportion of buyers of new EVs who are selling them on after less than a year of ownership.
      Not my opinion. A fact on the particular website.
      This particular sample is tiny.
      However, it’s similar in other, larger samples.
      By the way, unless you lay out the simplest basis for your claim, I struggle to believe it. Absent any information other than your assertion, I’m entitled to my opinion. There’s a large amount of funded propaganda around on this whole topic.

    • @pippip8744
      @pippip8744 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GT380manclaims made by a registered three months ago and stream of positive about EV comments account, what are the chances of fakery? I'd say about 95%

    • @Andy-e8n7g
      @Andy-e8n7g 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @GT380man What do you want to know I've got a 2015 leaf I bought early 2020 just before lockdown.

    • @heinzriemann3213
      @heinzriemann3213 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Andy-e8n7ghow much of this savings is government-mandated by taxes on fossil fuels?

    • @Andy-e8n7g
      @Andy-e8n7g 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@heinzriemann3213 I'm not sure? I just pay 1-2p a mile for the majority of the mileage I've covered taking the odometer to 140k. I guess it's the lack of tax I've paid including VED.

  • @vincentcausey8498
    @vincentcausey8498 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think that, as soon as you stop "saying nice things about them", they will suddenly succeed in the market. I think the issues are real, not merely the result of narratives.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If you say things that turn out not to be true you create buyers remorse and depreciation, always better to under promise and over deliver, then you have a customer for life

  • @brandonfromlondonuk3484
    @brandonfromlondonuk3484 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why are there 786 Porsche Tycans on Autotrader ?

    • @bentullett6068
      @bentullett6068 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Audi E-Tron GT's might also have similar numbers listed. They currently have an issue regarding the batteries that could at any point go into thermal runaway. Don't worry though as VW group say you can used the effected cars but avoid charging them near the house or in a garage. Basically it's like living with and driving a ticking time bomb.

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Got an EV? Get yourself a Brompton folding bike! Keep in the boot, just in case.

  • @tyrantwitness2482
    @tyrantwitness2482 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Where we anti electric, racists are mostly beaten by EVs is? Getting away from traffic lights. Plus they don't draw attention to themselves doing it.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Speak English

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I rarely see any BEVs at 200kph cruise on the Autobahn. It's almost exclusively ICE cars.

  • @kevinrowlands6753
    @kevinrowlands6753 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    No one want to believe the truth

  • @graemejones9707
    @graemejones9707 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Because they're absolute shit?

  • @rubydoobstylie
    @rubydoobstylie 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    We're on our second EV and would never go back. For us it's cheap to run, virtually no maintenance and so easy to drive. I've never met an EV driver who has been disappointed with it. 🤷‍♂️

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yep I'm in several EV groups with literally thousands of members who actually own EVs and the majority seem perfectly happy and wouldn't go back , there are petrol heads in these groups also who have a weekend sports car etc and like you and me most just find them easier and more relaxing to drive, cheaper to run and maintain, but I look in on this channel occasionally to see what b/s they've made up this week 😁

    • @johnmcconville6055
      @johnmcconville6055 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      My other half had an electric mini,but went back to hybrid.Range was a problem,but more so was her reluctance to find out where alternative chargers were.🤔
      I am on EV number 4 now and wouldn't go back to ICE.I do like engines and cars,but for everyday usage, EV wins hands down for me.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It just cost you 50k to buy you mug.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@davefitzpatrick4841Utter nonsense

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @andrewwaller5913 you do know you can buy EVs used, that's what I do .
      Let the mugs who buy or lease new take the big hit ( that's with any car Ice or EV) then buy once most of the depreciation has happened.
      My EV was brought used for £14k , is 9 years old now , only worth around £5.5k , but has saved me around £1.5k a year on running and maintenance costs so has saved me around £9k , add that £5.5k on and I'm not out of pocket, try and do that with an Ice car 😁👍

  • @zjzozn
    @zjzozn 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for the vlog. I think EV’s are amazing if you get the right model. You seem to be against EV”s and remind me of a stuck record… I hope you find something more interesting to talk about soon 👍

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      And yet I have two, don’t watch

  • @Piecenotwar
    @Piecenotwar 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’m not surprised the UK is a low adopter of EVvs, generally the mentality of people their being the reason, hate change for no particular reason, anything new won’t work just because, no investment in anything for the tax payers.
    I moved from the UK 10 years ago and live in a rural part of Australia now and it actually surprises me how many EVs I see locally, there’s rapid charging stations with dedicated bays in remote towns that in the week probably only see a few thousand people pass by, and everyone has solar the feeds the grid and a lot have battery storage recharging overnight when it’s significantly cheaper.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Piecenotwar Let us know when you can drive across Australia in your EV without it taking months.

    • @Piecenotwar
      @Piecenotwar 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ The Nullarbor is remote road 1200km long from Perth to South Australia, it usually takes 2 days to cross in any vehicle and the longest distance between charging points is 200km, most are rapid chargers so travelling across Australia is no different to a ICE really, you are going to make regular stops either way.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Piecenotwar Just takes far longer in a milkfloat.

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Piecenotwar 1200km you can do in a day. especially with dual drivers.
      A normal car would be refueled once.

    • @Piecenotwar
      @Piecenotwar 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ You could but you are still going to have to stop at least once to refuel.
      I’ve driven that road and many others in WA and after 5hrs of looking at exactly the same bush, road, sand, rock and nothing else I’m toast.

  • @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i
    @WeAreAllDoomed-n5i 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Before buying an EV, seek advice from a doctor! Like DrJohnCampbell!

  • @robgillam340
    @robgillam340 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am blocking this channel because of all the nonsense. I've had my Tesla for 7 years and it’s been fantastic. The battery is great, the brakes are solid, the tires are just like any other car with similar performance, and the car isn’t on fire. FFS.

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nobody cares.

  • @michals1108
    @michals1108 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yet over 80% of ev owners will buy ev as their next car haha
    Stop spreading bs

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sure 😂

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That's about 10 people 😂

    • @michals1108
      @michals1108 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewwaller5913 over 300k evs were sold in uk in 2024

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michals1108 Is that all ? 85 % of new cars are ICE vehicles. Oh and most new EVs are registered to fleets not private buyers.

    • @michals1108
      @michals1108 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ yes that’s why there are more people using evs that’s why there are more ev chargers , that’s why they building biggest battery factory in eu here in uk Somerset , evs are staying not going away this is my last post here I will not waste my time

  • @eddewhurst7662
    @eddewhurst7662 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why are 55% of EV owners selling their electric cars within a few months. Unashamed clickbait, the sort of nonsense that sums up this channel.

    • @brandonfromlondonuk3484
      @brandonfromlondonuk3484 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      yet here you are watching you ev evanglists are like vegans normal people hate you

    • @eddewhurst7662
      @eddewhurst7662 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Keep eating the clickbait fool. No I haven't watched this episode, I watched a previous episode and just found it full of disinformation about EVs. I commented because why title a video with an obvious lie. Why do you hate people who own and love their EVs. Is it because you are proud of your knowledge of cars and you are now a lost little boy in face of the new reality for personal transport
      If you don't like EVs then fine but why watch nonsense like this?

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Another Tesla t****r