Servicing A Shimano Mech In Real Time | Mountain Bike Derailleur Service
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2021
- It's all too common that during mountain bike maintenance it's odd that one of the most important parts of the bike often gets overlooked! In the video, we show you how to refresh your rear derailleur. We show you how to clean and correctly grease the Shimano clutch system, the pulleys/jockey wheels, the tension spring and Doddy even carries out this service in real-time! ⏰ *Minus the quick wash & dry clean of the derailleur body.
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Ordinarily I wouldn't dream of disassembling my mech but after seeing this I feel confident enough to tackle it. Great clear and easy to follow video cheers Doddy
People please note that when Doddy reveals the internal parts, the adjuster (left part of the two-parts clutch assembly, featuring the tension adjusting screw) appears mounted backwards. It is an asymetrical piece, with kind of a holed "plate" on one side, which must align and sit on a plastic recess in the clutch casing. That prevents the adjuster from moving laterally when fiddling with the tension lever, and allegedly makes for a better operation. When mounted backwards, one should not be able to close the casing… unless forcing, which appears to have been the case here, and would lead to improper sealing, premature wear (it’s a plastic casing) or even damaging/breaking the clutch assembly itself. Doddy eventually mounts the adjuster the correct way, although he probably had not noticed the issue ;)
Good catch!
My Shimano XT cage lost it's tension and thus my chain was just hanging loose. Thanks to this guide, I was able to disassemble, clean, grease and assemble back the whole derailleur. Easy to follow instructions, good camera angle and explanation! Thanks a lot!
One note though: As someone already pointed out, pay attention to the left part of the clutch assembly when putting back together. It needs to be oriented correctly - on my first go, it was wrong, but the casing could totally be closed without gaps, so I hadn't noticed. But then the cage always had a little friction, and the clutch lever didn't work. The small round piece mentioned earlier needed to be rotated 180° on the lever pin, and now it works perfectly.
Why am I watching this I have a sram.
And hoping to see unservicible type 3 clutch being serviced? Yee...same
@@KLOCEKMINECRAFT13
I'm still at 6 year old X0 model "non clutch version" :D
Modified with BBB 12/14T jockey wheels. And "goat link".
Works like a dream with 11-42T casette (single speed at front).
I see no rason to upgrade.
Yeah, same…
It's interesting from a technical point of view. I watched it over brunch.
If there are no SRAM videos, then this video might give an idea of how to service one. Although one needs to be aware that they are different manufacturers and so they may need to serviced differently. So perhaps a bit of reverse engineering using this video. ☺️
Thanks Doddy, I'm confident in doing this myself. I've found that using a toothbrush with cleaner works well for removing gunk from small pockets, just like a dentist. I also like the elevator music and detailed shots.
You called him what?
12:25 'Trusty rag' why is everything trusty Doddy?😆
Looks like he's a genuinely trusty guy. :)
Its better than the unreliable, untrustworthy versions!!
Because the best workmen use the best tools.
Well he has the trusty linkage fork also
I’ve had some shady rags in my day. I try to rid myself of them and only surround myself with trusty rags.
A Shimano’s recommendation is to grease the ring seal of the clutch cover 👍 There this information in the service manual.
Doddy I love this Videos. It's pure Therapie. I watched it even though my xt derailleur is brand new ;)
Same to this lol, I haven't even mounted it on my bike yet
Thanks Doddy! Excellent in depth servicing tutorial. More of these please.
found this video as I was searching how to fix the derailleur as I had shifting issues. Followed your instructions and fixed the shifting issues :-) Saved me some Euros buying a new one, Thanks !
I encounter an "issue". And as usual, you guys have it covered. Awesome videos like this make life so much easier. Cheers.
Super helpful video, my buddies derailleur wouldn't take up any slack in the chain. Cleaning up the clutch (drum?) and related parts makes it work like new. Saved him a good chunk of change. Thanks for the in depth teardown!
That was awesome. My derailleur works again!
Thanks Doddy, the only part I didn't understand before watching this was the spring/pin orientation. Great help!
Fantastic video, content detail, image and sound quality and dialogue. All this takes a lot of effort and the results are well worth it but often taken for granted.
Would love a similar vid on the SRAM as mentioned previously.
Also, what about the four parallelogram pivots, what to do with those?
Thanks again!!
Very helpful video. I actually have this exact derailleur problem. Thanks for doing what you do! Doddy have you done a video talking about the different types of bicycle grease and where they’re used? If not, maybe in the future?
Excellent detailed step by step guide for servicing Simano rear derailleur! Brilliant!
Great Info. Complete info and understanding of how the derailleur works. Thanks
Thanks Doddy for the instructions .
It works and shifts like new
Well done Doddy. Great walk-through on the whole process.
Thank you, I learn so much when I come visit your channel. Good job, keep on inspiring us.
An old tooth brush works really well to clean the jockey wheels too. Great video, very detailed for those new to doing their own maintenance.
Brilliant tutorial as ever Doddy
Mine is way worse! Cleaned my cassette and crank etc. But was a bit worried about taking it apart as I am a rank novice at this lark. Giving me some confidence over the last few weeks though. Thank you so much for saving me from my local halfords and their devastating charges for simple maintenance. Much love
Brilliant Instructional Video. This enabled me to sort a 12 speed XT mech from a second hand mtb that I had recently purchased. I thought the clutch was seized up but when I took things apart it was the main pivot and spring that were badly rusted up. I managed to free and clean things up and now everything is working as it should. Thanks Doddy you saved me £80 for a new mech.
I love these videos. Keep it up Doddy!
this is so relaxing
wow，keep making this series video，this is a great demonstration
Thank you so much! I lost that c clip and didint know what it was for, glad you brought up that information very helpful.
Thank you,
this gave me the confidence to open up mine to see how I can do some maintenance. I now learned the spring is deformed and there is quite some rust in there. Though I'm not sure what, all together some wear and tear makes it stops being a spring in favor of being a static piece of metal, leaving my chain hang loose.
I learned a lot though and now I know how to maintenance this and make the next one last much longer.
DANKE DODDY! An admirer from Germany...
It would be nice if you guys did one for SRAM mechs as well since some bikes run SRAM running gear. Keep up the great videos too.
Wow !! Impressive detailed video, not sure I will do it right away but very interesting still :-) Thank you Doddy !!
Thank you for this. Learned a lot.
Verry good video as always. Thank you.
Fantastic video Doddy
I'm so impressed with this tutorial, Doddy is so ocd and so next level😩
Excellent video!!
Thanks doddy, i accidentally pressure washed the derailleur today so this is in the top of the list to fix
Success! Thank you for the detailed video.
Really well done. Thanks.
Perfect job, thanks!!!
Hi Doddy! It’s been long time since I’ve started to follow you! I think you love your job that’s why i think that you are a very good mechanic and a good mtb rider! I can understand you very well but english isn’t my mother tongue so i have to listen carefully to you because you talk very fast! I love riding my mtb i’ve bought my first one in 1992...i am 48...i am Italian and i live in Milan...thanks to all of you!!!
this is great vid doddy,
Great presentation. Thanks
Thanks for posting this. I’m about to tackle a resto on my 30 year old mb. Get it back to top shape.
Thanks for your professional guidance.
Are there big differences to SRAM derailleurs?
Please more of such instructions.
Greetings Manuel
Good tutorial, job well done.
I miss you from embn your knowledge is very good top man
This is the kind of tech I subscribe for.
Great video! Reminds me of Edd China from his wheeler dealer days! Especially with the gloves!
Brilliant guide, i was trying to swap parts over from two broken mechs but got stuck on the spring cluth part. Now feeling like i could do it blindfolded
Great video 😉👍
Well done 👍 very helpful 🙏✌️
Thank you so much, now i know how to service my deraulier :)
Kerosene in a parts washer is by far the best option for cleaning. Toothbrush also comes in handy
Very helpful.
The pulley wheels appear to be the wrong way around after the service though. The ones on the bike at 0:35 are oriented correctly, at 26:29 (or 18:49) they are the wrong way around. Be careful when following along to put them back on correctly.
After having the same questioning, the arrows on pulley wheels are correct with what is said in this video.. which goes against any images of the assembled pulleys found on the internet.
great video
Doddy I just did clutch service in the video. The sprague bearing didn't want to just slip on anywheres but seemed to prefer some.atjer section of the inner post. Took forever to get it seated but once on I find that yes the clutch isn't grabbing and then with excess effort breaking free. This was an 11 speed long can&e m8000 sgs. Next I need to to my 12 speed xtr which looks exactly the same as predicted. Used the special Shimano coaster brake grease. When I tore down the 11 speed the inner sprague and it's mount WAS lubed . I dried it off and regressed the outside as.direcres.and.it seems a.world.of.difference.
It’s like the mountain bike version of watching a Bob Ross video. Well done Doddy!
Thanks dody
This here is a perfect video.
Great how to! Can you do a full how to fully service a mtb front fork?
thanks, I thought my rear derailleur or at least that spring was broken for sure but it turned out that during transport the spring had somehow managed to unspring in spite of the locking bolt still in place
I wish I had your workshop and tools!
very good video, its amazing how must dirt I collected inside that clutch housing after just 6 months. Even my roller bearings inside the clutch where stuck as was my derailleur as it wasn't moving back no more ! thnx
Really helpful million thanks! Make sure you put the rubber gadget back I made this mistake!
The clutch might be more finesse than what I am used to at work, but actually you can oil etc them and it will still work
Lots of people have mentioned it before and you have hinted at it. Some service and set up vids on vintage parts.
Way less complex than I thought, but not for beginners.
I have an engineering and fabrication background , I noticed many mechanics don't use compressed air to aid in cleaning and assembly, I guess it's a new school of thought for safety reasons ? I use 60 psi most of the time, I have also seen soda blasting and dry ice blasting as supposed to using harmful chemicals but not so much on smaller more complex parts. Excellent tutorial, thanks.
That shimano grease is good one!
Cool video Doddy Cheers 🍻👍😎
I don't feel confident nor tech minded enough, to service my rear mech so I'll rather keep my lbs in business 👍
great video... has helped a lot. I would love some more hacks etc to fix corroded clutches, right now with supply chain shortages where I am (canada) it is impossible to get a clutch kit... most shops can't even get a derailleur :( Right now I am sanding down the internal clutch post hoping to get this thing back functional.
Doddy is the Bob Ross of mountian bike servicing videos.
I suggest flushing the bearings with that brake cleaner, get any grit out of it, then blow it out with a compressor and add your grease afterwards. :)
I was going to post the same thing!!! You can even seen the dirt in the clean grease as it comes out the back of the jockey wheels!!! A nice grinding paste there to wear out the bearings twice as quickly!!
Nice info! You gonna make a sram one too? I don't think the clutch is serviceable on a sram, but I have both, so this is still good stuff!
Not covered is adjusting the tension on the clutch. Park tool or Syd and Mackey have good videos on how to do that step.
I was hoping for more detail about cleaning the four pivot pins in the parallel linkage arms. I've had to remove mine in the past to straighten them, but I certainly cleaned and greased them while they were out. Are they not normally a serviceable item?
yeah, i was thinking the same. how to clean/regrease parallelogram correctly?
Hello Doddy any chance of doing a break down service and your opinion of a Shimano Microspline.
PS I love the show and have learnt lots of tips from you, thank you.
I'm known as the tinkerer. I pull everything apart just to learn how things work I love it.....
Thanks for the masterclass Doddy! I can envision this taking me well over an hour.
Good mantencin the chimanomerch in #GMBNTech good tos details in the clear a the chimano derailleur for to #moutainbiking of #GMBN good service in time and good ide 🗣️yyaa. Saluds of chile 🇨🇱
Awesome! Can you next do one from Sram Eagle?
Gx or better!
nice
Invaluable as always doddy! My only complaint and i know its a hard habit to break is Allen is a brand, they are hex keys and hex bolts 👀😂 unless you have allen branded keys of course
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Riding in Oregon winters is roughy on these mechs, and there have been issues with Shimano’s new line of mechs not being properly lubricated. To seal the clutch box area I put some grease around the seal and also in the clutch adjustment port for extra insurance. This also really helps if you spray your mech with water to clean.
I feel like a the seal does is hold moisture in. Cause it damn sure doesn't keep it out.
Maybe put some thick dielectric grease on the seal and mating parts? It’s very thick and will keep water out if not sprayed under pressure
I think that water gets in from the backside of the mech where the spring is attached, there is a little hole there.
Sweet... DO SRAM PLSSSS
Loctite mounting bolts...Had a derailleur mounting bolt work loose ...gear index kept changing, I kept adjusting for a while until I checked the mech...was held on by a thread.
Very very good video. my bike must be about 10 yrs old and the Shimano has no clutch and seems a lot less sbstantial , no seals on the jocky wheels and their cage seems bent, it is composed of two pressed steel legs ? The bike is a Raleigh .
I got half way through this before I realized I'm never going to do this....then continued to watch the rest lol.
Thanks for the how-to really great to watch.
Is worth greasing the o-ring/seal before you put it back in?
It really wouldn't hurt to use some silicone o-ring grease if you have it. Just avoid petroleum based products like Vaseline on natural rubber. Most likely that seal is a synthetic material but I recommend the silicone type just to be safe.
@@josephphillips865 The seal would have long died from exposure to chain lube if it was susceptible to degradation. It's probably ordinary buna-n.
I did this while listening to opera.
Heyy thanks for another great video!! #askgmbntech why is there no video on yt about Fox transfer Dropper service?! Will you make one? Including hacks for the many expansive specialist tools? Would love to service mine as it is sticky sometimes. Cheers!
Perfect timing Doddy! My XT clutch got stuck a week after you posted this video. Taking mine apart, I noticed water/residue inside the clutch COVER, and went on to notice there is a little RUBBER PORT on the clutch cover (part held by 3x 2mm screws). WHAT the heck is that for? I'd be tempted to shoot a bunch of grease or spray oil in there if I had not noted your video. Should that be opened to allow the mech to dry? It would be easy to shear off too/etc...
On the XT, the rubber port is where you can ajust the clutch tension from the outside, without having to remove the whole clutch cap. On the SLX, deore etc, you need to remove the whole cover to adjust it. Make sure the port is closed and there's some light grease on it. Also when putting the cover back on in general, I grease the seal.
Could you do a full service of sram mech please???
nice video tutorial. No torque settings?
can you do about fixing shifter indicator not working in shimano 12s
I got to buy one of those little grease gun, nice idea.
About a tener on Amazon.
The mess is so much less since I got one.
2nd time doing this cleaning - how tight should the 2mm bolt on the clutch clamp be?
Is the plastic clutch leaver replaceable? My son broke his! Is there a few more bolts to undo to access the lever? I have a donor lever that I can use. Quicker to ask than start pulling the busted one apart.
You should make on of these for sram