Explaining Every Banned Stone in the Mix and Mega Tier.

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  • @EvelynIsBased
    @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Woah, another video, thanks for watching it folks and for the amazing support last week! I really do appreciate it.
    See you all next week, any video ideas you all may have I’d love to hear :)

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nice link to the Red Orb video

  • @shumbojrimp8274
    @shumbojrimp8274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    I’d love a video on why Tera is banned in Mix and Megas, that’s brought up a lot but hasn’t really been explained.

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      That's true actually I never thought to make a video like that, I'll definitely look into it :)

    • @NoddedAlpaca
      @NoddedAlpaca 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      @@EvelynIsBased”Explaining Why These OMs have banned Tera” sounds pretty cool as a compilation video

    • @M.Jspeaks
      @M.Jspeaks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      If everything tuns a mega stone then megas + tera dont run together even in natdex

    • @Equalizing_
      @Equalizing_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@M.Jspeaks You don't have to exclusively use Megas tho. I used to run a Banded Excadrill with T-Tarite Archeops and a pex with Rocky Helmet and won plenty of games

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      This would be true, but Rusted Shield and Rusted Sword allowed for users to Terastilize, while it sounds like an odd thing since it's just one thing, that's put up to be mostly what got Tera banned in the Metagame, since it allowed players to make uncompetitive plays with setting up using Rusted Shield, as well as with many other Mons.
      Though, I believe the ban really could've gone either way, I dislike Tera and am glad it's gone, I understand why some wouldn't like it's removal

  • @usernametaken017
    @usernametaken017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Can't believe kilowattrel died for Pidgeotite's sins

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      We've recently seen it's revival though 🙏 (it got unbanned)

    • @SakhotGamer
      @SakhotGamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@EvelynIsBased have the mons thought broken due to pidgeotite been unbanned?

    • @ClasIsMid
      @ClasIsMid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SakhotGamer the only one was kilo

  • @TheAweDude1
    @TheAweDude1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    >Gengarite
    It could reduce each stat by 20 and still be really goddamn good.

  • @toastprobably9774
    @toastprobably9774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I'd like to hear about why some stones AREN'T banned, such as the Sablenite. Hearing about what's still in the tier sounds really interesting

  • @geisttraft7190
    @geisttraft7190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    lmao phys togekiss fans really tried to make it happen

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Phys Togekiss fans are still in their fever dreams waiting for Medichamite

    • @Beast_the_smash_guy
      @Beast_the_smash_guy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I used to run physical Togekiss back in Gen 8 Almost Any Ability.
      Choice band Aerialite Espeed/Play Rough/Duel Wing beat( for if I need the damage/naturally outspeed)/drain punch. That team I had was genuinely incredible

  • @crunchytoast6007
    @crunchytoast6007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Take a drink every time he brings up Urshifu

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dead 5 minutes in

    • @Fanimati0n
      @Fanimati0n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Urshifu was a bad decision that shouldn't have left the cutting room floor

    • @crunchytoast6007
      @crunchytoast6007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fanimati0n or! There’s 2 of them 🧠

  • @lordsalty2060
    @lordsalty2060 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ive been getting into the other metagames because of this channel, im really glad that i found your channel!

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much I'm glad you've been getting into them I love hearing that :)

  • @wafflebroz
    @wafflebroz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I think Beedrillite would not be broken on Shuckle

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Controversial opinion but Beedrillite wouldn't be broken on Beedrill 🙏

    • @rodywitlox8368
      @rodywitlox8368 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I think it may actually be broken on shuckle
      With those defenses losing some really aint a big problem and even with an attack stat like that it can work dont forget about shell smash either

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@EvelynIsBasedWhat if I put Beedrillite on my Alolan Sandslash to try to underflow a stat with my now base -5 Special Attack?

    • @dhruvhosali2416
      @dhruvhosali2416 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@baxterbruce9827u can’t use the stone if ur results in negative stats or even stats of 0

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Video idea: Explaining bans in the pokebilities meta.
    A much lesser known OM, but my personal favorite OM and I did become co-leader of the OM back in April, so I can help with any needed information

  • @timm3jimm336
    @timm3jimm336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Freezai with Jimothy Cool thumbnails. Nice.

  • @Pi-eipp
    @Pi-eipp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It’s a funny tier with funny mons

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Certified quite possibly true

    • @Pi-eipp
      @Pi-eipp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@EvelynIsBased I mean
      How can it not be funny if people tried to make physical togikiss

  • @residentrain7055
    @residentrain7055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Commenting to boost the viceo for the algorithm!

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The algorithm holds me hostage so this is very appreciated 🙏

  • @PlasmaEnergised.
    @PlasmaEnergised. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I’m honestly surprised that red orb is banned whilst blue orb remains legal

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Red Orb has the benefit of providing a major Special attack boost, while also giving a Fire typing, and a weather that benefits said fire typing, all of this makes it the most insane booster of Weather Balls ever, Blue Orb on the other hand doesn't really do a lot other then boost attack, it's still good, but marginally worse since it's weather is less desired for WBalls and offensive threats.

    • @PlasmaEnergised.
      @PlasmaEnergised. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@EvelynIsBased makes sense. Thinking about it now, I guess urshifu would be the only big abuser. Thanks for clarifying

  • @ysshuu
    @ysshuu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you Evelin. I love hearing you explain cool metagames :) i think its really rad what people can come up with. Also your editing is top notch as always

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you very much I really appreciate it :)

  • @benoire-chan4585
    @benoire-chan4585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    200 base special attack magerna is horrifying holy shit

  • @divinelathe
    @divinelathe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your videos are always excellent. thank you for shining a light on OMs ♡

  • @pmnt_
    @pmnt_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't even know that Mix and Megas was a thing, but the video was great to watch!

  • @meta4knight
    @meta4knight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish I could play rotation battles. The mind games are insane

  • @augustoliver715
    @augustoliver715 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love a video explaining every unique item for mix and mega tbh, fascinating metagame

  • @TrulyAtrocious
    @TrulyAtrocious 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how Roaring Moon is the main character of this video but is also extremely difficul to use because every single team in the tier has pixilate espeed

  • @whateew
    @whateew 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see a video on popular cores within the tier ! Get a feel for how the meta works n whatnot

  • @Poosi
    @Poosi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That gengarite transition had me rolling

  • @TheNutshaq
    @TheNutshaq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    So many of these are just common sense. Who would’ve thought that giving ANYTHING access to No Guard, Shadow Tag, Speed Boost, Pure Power/Huge Power or Parental Bond would be broken?

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is definitely true, due to this I tried to focus the video more around the history of these stones and any complex bans attempted to preserve them, rather then "Fun fact, huge power good", but I totally get what you mean lol

    • @TheNutshaq
      @TheNutshaq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EvelynIsBased it was still a good video I watched the whole thing lol. I did notice that you didn’t mention OHKO moves when talking about Pidgeotite, were those banned before Pidgeotite was tested?

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      OHKO moves were banned immediately yeah, though an interesting tidbit of history I didn't mention is that Proto/Quark drive Mons originally kept their boost after Mega evolving due to a coding error, which got people massively hating Iron Bundle day 1 and wanting it's ban until a Mod came out and said it was just a simple coding error, so it did avoid a ban due to Sheer Cold, but almost got hit by another for Quark Drive

  • @Pi-eipp
    @Pi-eipp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great vid
    Love the content

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very much appreciated :)

  • @bettyunicorn6132
    @bettyunicorn6132 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    imagine this: Sqaukabilly with Huge Power. I mean it has hustle.

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it was introduced (which it wouldn't obviously be) Squak would def be insane, but more then that, Lilligant H would be even crazier with Victory Dance + Pure Power

  • @Lyralovecraft
    @Lyralovecraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep seein comments of people being rude about the thumbnail looking similar to other creators and like. Why :( it's just a good video yall don't need to get so tight over a thumbnail. Anyways love the video, evelynisbased truly livin up to their name

  • @TheSandwhichman108
    @TheSandwhichman108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you imagine if Mega Salamance had 200 base atk?!
    Like holy crap it would be almost unstoppable with the right moves set.

  • @neptuniamarina4924
    @neptuniamarina4924 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Pidgeotite took a while to get banned compared to the others iirc. One of my favorite combos back in the day with it was Mismagius since she was already a little speedy and had Inferno. It wasn’t great due to her poor bulk but it was fun.

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the Pidgeotite is one of the few here that actually had a pretty long process that led up to its ban, though the Rusted Sword had a bit of a long process too it was still much shorter, though I could see it maybe being reintroduced into the Metagame (strong maybe)

  • @jaotrx7163
    @jaotrx7163 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like a lot the idea it literally like dynamax but more broken. Cool see it on main games kibda lmae tho

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Khangaskanite Melmetal with double hitting double iron bash, for the ultimate in rage-inducing moves.

  • @lostmyedge_
    @lostmyedge_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jimothy cool ah thumbnail

  • @Snarf679
    @Snarf679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video, Evelyn!

  • @PatrickArcato
    @PatrickArcato 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mega stones feel like devil fruits from One Piece in this mode

  • @badassfroslass
    @badassfroslass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question, why did the rusted sword give Pokémon the intrepid sword boost in this format? Zanjan gets the same boost regardless of if it has a rusted sword or not

    • @Randomtheeng
      @Randomtheeng หลายเดือนก่อน

      cause you gain the ability of the item, for example blaziken has speed boost but the blazikenite will still apply speed boost since thats the only abillity that form can gave

  • @thepurplemudkip9998
    @thepurplemudkip9998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    evelyn do u have a list of music you use in your videos

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sort of in a way, mostly just a large downloaded folder that I pick from depending on what I think fits the moment/way I'm talking, would you like the list of music from this video?

    • @thepurplemudkip9998
      @thepurplemudkip9998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EvelynIsBased yes please! there was one song that sounded somewhat familiar but i couldn’t exactly put my finger on it.

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intro - Hateno Village BOTW
      Pidgeotite Portion - Minigame - Parasail BOTW
      Beedrillite Portion - Kokiri Forest - Zelda OOT
      Medicham + Mawilite - Street Fighter 5, Ken's theme
      Rusted Sword - Meta Knights Revenge SSBU
      Gengarite - New Super Mario Bros, Ghost House
      Blazikenite - Red Dead Redemption 2, American Venom
      Kangaskhanite - 36 Fit Boss Battle, Ring Fit Adventure
      Outro - I don't know? I found it through a game music site which rips music straight from the source, I named the song Champions Ballad (BOTW), so that's probably what it is, but I can't for the life of me find it on TH-cam under another name
      Hope this helps :)
      (also yes I play a lot of Zelda)

  • @doritocupcakes2244
    @doritocupcakes2244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    High quality vid my guy :D

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much :)

  • @TheForgottenTainted
    @TheForgottenTainted 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And then he vanished

  • @konotton
    @konotton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yo what's the song you played at the start of the kang section? that went hard as hell

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      36 Fit Boss Battle from Ring Fit Adventure :)

  • @mac30yyz
    @mac30yyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if anyone could tell me what music is playing at 12:42, i’d greatly appreciate it

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's 36 Fit Boss Battle - Ring Fit Adventure :)

    • @mac30yyz
      @mac30yyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EvelynIsBased tyvm

  • @derekbrown5897
    @derekbrown5897 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talk about mispronouncing the English versions of pokemon moves and names. Adding in weird name changes to suit English speakers (like hitmonlee and hitmonchan being completely different than the japanese names) would be interesting as well

  • @evougaming5605
    @evougaming5605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good video

  • @noggintv2639
    @noggintv2639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yooo this guy makes niche pokemon comp videos? added you to the list my dude, keep it up bro

  • @nermomi
    @nermomi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe the Evelyn was the based we made along the way

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My personal investigators are researching this possibility

  • @orionl7406
    @orionl7406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No tera? Sounds fun as a gen 8 player :D

  • @twilightsilver6230
    @twilightsilver6230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Yo trans rights - also good fucking video. Maybe you talk about bad mega stones sort of as a sequel video?

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Thank you very much and I love that idea, I'll definitely look into doing a video like that as a lot of interesting stones are shockingly lackluster in the tier, thanks :)

    • @TrainerGoldAlt
      @TrainerGoldAlt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EvelynIsBasedwhen you talk about aggronite, would you include how it was actually good in G7 mnm lol

  • @danielbakergill
    @danielbakergill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, please raise your voice. 🤗

  • @LucRio448
    @LucRio448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Waaait a second, so in that metagame, any pokemon that mega evolves now has actually TWO abilities? AT THE SAME TIME? Okay who exactly thought that's even remotely a good idea again? xDD

    • @ArkanumKing
      @ArkanumKing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      no its ability gets replaced

  • @ClebbyWebbyZebby
    @ClebbyWebbyZebby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pidgeoite seems too strong because of no guard ohko moves

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      OHKO moves are banned through OHKO Clause

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Most OMs ban OHKO moves due to there being a numerous amount of ways to make them work, as such, Mix and Megas followed suit as banning Pidgeotite for a few select naturally uncompetitive moves isn't really fair.

    • @ClebbyWebbyZebby
      @ClebbyWebbyZebby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EvelynIsBased oh gotcha ty, I'm more familiar with vgc so I wasn't really sure

  • @basedjenny7362
    @basedjenny7362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you know the based god?

  • @Havyyto_
    @Havyyto_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not dollar store Jimothy Cool showing up on my fp 💀

    • @EvelynIsBased
      @EvelynIsBased  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He is subscribed to me, it is not a competition, the largest similarity is mostly in Thumbnail, I've taken a lot of inspiration from him and Freezai and I have respect for both of them, so I attempt to strive into my own category, I don't quite understand what your comment is meant to succeed

  • @notcraig255
    @notcraig255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:55 I UNIRONICALLY HATE THIS SO FUCKING MUCH. this example of complex bans I think is silly because its quite arbitrary but I've seen this counter argument applied FUCKING ANYWHERE. aaa has pokemon that are too good with only one specific ability? well mewtwo would be weaker if it could only use psychic moves l,ike NO FUCKING SHIT DUDE, please bring up an actually good argument instead of one so anti discussion. I'm unironically more in favor of this hustle complex now because idiots oppose it.
    and no it doesn't make sense, if you thought about that stupid shit for even a moment you'd see how it'd fall apart. a complex ban isn't arbitrary because its complex, its based on the context its found on. noivern got banned for 1 set so to increase diversity, maybe it should be freed without access to aerilate? nope, "kyogre would be balanced at level 60 with only surf".

    • @Lyralovecraft
      @Lyralovecraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Girl chill it's a video about a game marketed towards children. Aint that big a deal, don't need to attack them personally over it

    • @notcraig255
      @notcraig255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lyralovecraft yet the people who manage tiers are not children, teens at the least. I speak my mind on something, if its stupid and popular enough I'm going to say its stupid.