Mercedes EQS Ride & Drive | Driver Assistance Systems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2022
- Chris takes the EQS out for a test drive.
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Reminded me of Sandy trying to use the ID4. 'This is different to Tesla, I don't like different to Tesla.' lol
Munro is a shill, and a pretty bad one at that.
Yeah he didn't even find the home button which was somewhat hilarious. They couldn't have made that thing any bigger
So if an engineer who has spent many years on ADAS: evaluating, testing and driving them has this much trouble to find the "auto parking" feature, how about the target market of a 65 year old lady, who is trying to do the same?
My thought on that is they don’t want people to find it. It even looked hard to activate lane keep on the highway.
Spot on. This car is marketed for Retired rich people. They ain’t going to find this but sure will be dazzled by the purple p@rn lights.
That is why they put a manual in every vehicle sold!
Yes! Hoping to see more videos like this. Not enough car reviewers delve into the details of the car's autonomous systems. Most of the time they show it for a few minutes successfully staying in lane on a straight highway and call it a day. From you guys, I'd like to see you really push these systems. See how they perform on curves, in heavy traffic, during day/night, inclement weather, etc. Ideally you'll want to standardize your testing a bit by driving the same route. Also it would be better to spend more time with the car to give a proper evaluation, but I understand if that's not possible. Nice work Chris!
100% agreed. Even the reviewers with the most followers barely mention the autonomy, sometimes not at all. Then there are always the comments that dismiss any notion of autonomy because they enjoy driving. Duh….. that’s not the point.
At around 09:55, being from Germany I suppose that MB did implement this feature as something that is very useful in Germany. Unlike as in the US, Germany has the traffic light on the same side of the intersection that you stop at. If you are the first one on the light, you would have to lean forward to see the status of that light through your windshield.
At times this can be tricky when your belt engaged and locked, you can't lean forward enough to see the light.
My grandmother's 51 Pontiac had a sun visor over the front windshield. And this being a problem, they mounted a lens on the dash right in front of the driver to see up from under the visor. I think it was a stock option. Before lights over the lanes they were just on a simple pole on the passenger side before the intersection (like a stop sign).
Number sold: 443 in Q4 2021, 2091 in Q1 2022 they are a extremely rare vehicle, so good to see this review.
They are selling every car they are building. In many parts of the country they have "market adjustments". The low numbers are due to a very limited supply in the US. Of course, there is always that big sticker price. My mid model 580 with a few options was 132. And that was without the latest price hike of 6k. My biggest option was the matte paint which was 3k.
Nice. I have a 2022 EQS 580 and love it. When in self-driving, you don't have to keep the blinker on to change lanes. You just tap it and the blinkers come on and stay on until the car changes the lane completely. As well, if you try to change lanes to quickly and it determines a vehicle is too close, it will warn you and not change lanes. However, when the there is enough distance, the blinker comes on and the arrow shows up in the heads-up display showing you the car is going to now change lanes. It is an amazing system in my opinion. It is one of the easiest lane keep assist if have had and never does anything harsh to not want to use it. Good job Mercedes.
interesting overview - we need more hands-on, real-world reviews like this!
I like this guy.
More of this guy. He is a chill dude.
Chris great in depth look and comparisons on parking abilities, your industry standard bench marking puts a quantifiable measure on the Merc system and thats useful to us drivers without experience of the tech.
I appreciate that!
It would have been nice to show all opions for the parking like change to forward and test side parking.
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Thank you for an excellent review. I have owned this car for three weeks and I have yet to use the parking assist feature. It is much easier to just park the car by myself. The lane change feature is very nice on the adaptive cruise control. I used it for the first time last week and it worked flawlessly. That feature is only available on Teslas with FSD. The car uses radar for the adaptive cruise control, something that Tesla has removed for the Model Y and 3. Another nice safety feature on this car is the reverse cross traffic warning. I was backing out of a parking spot at the dealer and the car brought me to a stop as a car I did not see pulled behind me. I expected my insurance to be doubled with the purchase of a car valued over $100k but my increase was only $200 a year which is probably because of all the safety features on the car.
Nice car, but i'm not too crazy about the touch screen responsiveness. And i'd be a little worried about the long term reliability of all the tech in the vehicle.
Tesla has proven Large MAIN Touch screen, Change from vertical to better Horizontal. Display speed is improved over RAVEN 2020 update.
On top of that... The UI and navigation view looks like they were designed in 2008. :/
Isn't a tesla, daaaaaa!!!!!
Or made in USA LOLOL
Thank you!
Back to back comparisons are always good
Great review. Hope you will create more driver assist videos in the future. 👍🏼
Great review. Thanks!
Munro one hell of a good engineering team 👏 thank you 🌏 helping trying to slow anthropogenic extinction for our childrens future 😀 👍 💙 with brilliant content.
I get first impressions but still valuable to be familiar with what you are showcasing if showing features and functions
What should actually blow your mind is that he consistently is comparing the Merc to a much cheaper Tesla.
Would love to see you test it on the same curve where the BlueCruise underperformed and got Sandy all riled up.
Great review 👍
Thanks! 👍
Chris, enjoyed your review of the driver assistance systems. Thanks Munro for another revealing video.
Glad you enjoyed it
In my Mercedes S550 2016 when I have auto pilot on it will not handle freeway curves above 37mph. It will drive into another lane. Slight curves are okay so it is only really good on mostly straight freeways. I did not see you test this in your review. It is my understanding that the current models have the same restrictions above 37mph. I also have a new Tesla and it handles all curves on the freeway or road even at 70mph. Please comment on this issue or do another review on the autopilot on significant curves at speed. Thanks
I have a 2020 S560, and it handles curves just fine at full highway speed. I find the most annoying thing about lane-keeping systems in general is that even if they handle the curves, they don't drive like a human so they are constantly driving where all the debris builds up on the road. Technically it might be the "right" place to be in the lane, but not the best place in the lane.
I love the comparison to the Plaid.
Good review. Thanks! Favorite comment: "So we're back in one piece." (with look of relief...)
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@MunroLive Thanks, I did. Great reviewer.
Nice
🤗THANKS CHRIS…for the show today 😎👍😍😍😍
7:42 -- It is actually centered between the parking lines considering the car only sees the left ones. In Europe, only a single line separates the parking places. I assume the developers didn't consider the double line case at all. Would be interesting to test how does it park if there were no lines at all.
Interesting thought
Was just about to post the exact same comment... never ever have seen these double or "box like" parking spot markings anywhere here in Europe
Referring to your comment on lane keep assist. I was just in a rental current model Jeep Cherokee with lane keep assist and that thing was terrible it kept wanting to send me straight onto concrete barriers (it literally would steer against me). I just kept that sucker off. I own a previous gen S-class and while occasionally it can get ping-pongi it never steers me out of the lanes and onto objects. Great video by the way, thanks.
The end of this video had me scared. My Tesla with FSD handles differently when that traffic scenario occurs since it can sense 2 cars in front.
That doesn’t mean it didn’t see the car. What youre missing is the rest of the traffic suddenly slowed also
Teslas can’t see two cars ahead anymore. That function went away when they switched to vision only. Regardless, I have never had an emergency breaking event even with traffic slowing rapidly like this. It was like the Mercedes’ was a distracted driver and the Tesla is always paying attention. Tesla NoA does stupid stuff but I trust it a lot.
@@Grant5321 No, Tesla vision can still differentiate 2 cars in front. Watch FSD videos with the center screen. It is dead accurate.
I don’t get it, would the car have stopped for the traffic ahead on the highway when on autopilot or not?
Thanks mate. Please do the back to back comparisons.
All that is going to break in a horribly expensive way within 5 years. (I'm being generous here).
Thanks for this short view. Nice screens and that's all. Or maybe I haven't seen anything else
The double lines might be messing with the auto parking being that they arent a thing in germany
At least here in the neighboring country (Austria), double lines are being used more and more often
@@Zedus-rl9hp i have not seen any here in and around stuttgart
Never seen them in Belgium either...
Munro team, can you do a review of the Comma self driving product?
Would be great 😊
I am 6' 1"' and tried getting into the EQS 450 at my MB dealer but the entry opening does not allow good head clearance. Is the EQS 580 taller than the 450?
No they are the same body style. The 580 has a dual motor and costs $25K more.
Nice effort Mercedes! There will be buyers but not me!
So all the bling inside the cockpit is to dazzle the user and misdirect them from the lack of actual functionality??
Spot on mate👍
0:08 What car was behind the left shoulder of Chris ? The grey one, It looks like a station wagon?
That is Cory's new vehicle, 2022 Yukon XL, 3.0L Diesel. Yes... not an EV. Too many Kids for anything smaller.
I probably shouldn't ask this until I've watched more of the presentation, but I'd really like to hear how six ultrasonic range sensors operating so closely together can avoid cross-coupling. Does just one sensor transmit, and all the others only listen, or what?
Kinda reminded me of Sandy's initial test of the of the ID.4: Before he was in gear there's confusion greeting him from the menu design. Good overall review.
Better let the experts drive...
@@abraxastulammo9940 If they want to sell these cars (mfr's) then they have to make it easy to master, not a lot of work for their customers.
@@deejay4922 The refusal to press the glowing square home button in the VW was quite a comedy show. 🥳
@@abraxastulammo9940
Not refusal, square doesn't mean "home" for me either. Maybe I'm getting old, but for me "home" is a little house, or something like that. I can figure it out on a smartphone, because there aren't many buttons, so I generally hit the right one on the second try. I've been using Android for many years now, and it's still confusing. The Windows Phone was so much better in almost every way.
@@abraxastulammo9940
This car is for boomers, so they should make it super simple and intuitive. Tech savvy kids buy Tesla.
At 5:00 the outside view is extremely comic, like sitting in a tiny car next to the SUV. Nice job Frodo
I wanted to see how the vehicle handled turns, not looking at the gps... all vehicles I've been in have issues with that (of course not tesla, with a base system).
Yes please compare to Tesla FSD Beta ver 11
I could have parked in 3 different places in the time it took to get the ADAS to do it once. Not impressed!
Yes. I thought I was bad at parking but this system makes me feel much better.
From my perspective i think that what the car do chose to park not in the middle is the right way because wasting space is not ideal 😉 keep up with good work 🍻
how come IF the EQS is so advanced, it does not show a LIVE camera of REAR and side camera (blind spot) when driving or when you indicate you want to change lanes. the Tesla s/x will display side camera when changing lanes.
I'm pretty sure that kind of parking lines don't exist in Germany. It seems to be picking the leftmost line out of the two lines on both sides?
I'd love to see your take on phantom braking among various systems. Tesla seems to get a lot of shit for phantom braking, especially after the transition to vision-only but I very rarely experience it in mine.
I’ve never experienced anything like what this car did in my Tesla.
This is the first test drive video I have seen where the driver did not know how the controls worked. It was fun seeing the learning curve. I have an S Class and still don't know how the Distronic works and the car manual explains it to me like I need to know Greek.
Get a Plaid instead.
@@raymondschembri5042 - Tesla fit and finish is not very good. I also am concerned about how many times Tesla has lied to owners after they thought they had free services that were then taken away.
At the 16:10 mark if you were using normal cruise control, which has been on cars since the 1950s, you'd have plowed right into the back of that car. Zero chimes, no automatic braking, no lane center, no auto speed adjustments, no driver monitoring, no safety redundancies, its wild that cruise control is even still legal in the US.
What a bizarre statement it is that you think cruise control should be illegal.
9:44 "...they don't even know the lane assistance is on...": Which brings me to a gripe with all software. Has anyone seen, in any documentation, a "glossary" of annunciator icons? The "tool tip" feature for graphical controls is a huge benefit. But if you don't have touch screen (for all the features) of the display, you need a quick way to find it...especially if you're just renting.
14:04 Is that a "blind spot" warning (flashing) in the side mirror?
15:00 Lane change behavior has to be locale sensitive. In Houston, signaling a lane change prompts the person behind you in the desired lane to "speed up" so you can (must) get in behind him.
BEST TO ACQUAINT YOURSELF WITH THE CAR BEFORE FILMING.
Didn’t Mercedes say this EQS has a level 3 autonomy system? I am certain i remember them touting this in news releases. Or is that only in Europe that’s offered?
There are only two countrys on world, where law allows Level 3 automation, these are Japan and Germany. The EQS (together with the S-Class) is the very first car, that fullfills the legal requirements. In Germany you can order the Drive Pilot option for the EQS, which allows real Level 3 under the constraints defined by the German law (only up to 60km per h and only on pre mapped roads).
They main difference to other systems, like Teslas FSD, is that the driver must not monitor, what the car is doing and the car manufacturer Mercedes is fully responsible when the system is in Level 3, and not the driver (in case of an alert, the driver has 10 seconds time to take over). In practice this allows the driver to do other tasks, like reading a newspaper, while driving in situation like the morning traffic jam.
There are so many conditions to enable lvl3: no rain, no construction, no emergency responders, no fog, perfect visibility on a pre-mapped road.
Would prefer a highly optimized lvl2 to a geo-fenced, weather-fenced lvl3 that never kicks in.
ETA on the new Texas Y?
it looks like it picks a target line and sticks to it. Thats actually a simple solution but will leave you off center
Great video! I am excited to see the Ride & Drive for the Cadillac Lyriq... I am hoping Sandy will be fair because it seems like a genuinely impressive EV. Even though I know he will knock it for not having a frunk and he doesn't seem to like GM very much.
If you plan to compare different vehicles, please choose a route, a parking lot, a time of day, etc. so you can repeat with each car and get some accurate measurements to compare.
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the graphics emulation is nice! no nintendo 64....Mercedes probably has an awareness system from DLR...nice car! good luck with it!
Appreciate the continuing reviews of this vehicle. extremely few will ever have one to use, they won't last very long before being scrapped, but fascinating to get such great reviews.
why wouldnt they last?
Love to see you go over the EQS. Been on of the cars i have wanted to see how stacks up against Tesla and so far i am impressed and think they are doing better that i expected.
I would love to hear you thoughts on the more general engineering of the car and repair-ability of the EQS vs Tesla. Now i am no expert but i have a feeling the Tesla would be easier to work on since so many of it's systems are clumped more together. fx how how it sems most powertriain related things are together with the battery making it easy to just pull that out and diagnose all that together vs the EQS where it seems a lot of the power systems are more spread and you have to go though a lot of other thing to access them.
Would love you hear if my thinking is on a totally wrong track and what you have to say about it.
And thanks for the great videos guys. It's really nice learning about electric cars from you.
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I wish you guys would get a Hummer EV or Cadillac lyriq to check out. Interested in your opinions on super cruise as well as learning about ultium
We will this summer.
16:09 A bit shifty since the system should be able to brake/recuperate up to 0.5g on its own. 🤔
Do a Lucid Air next
1:20 - I thought the top of the line Mercs had FLIR. No FLIR sensor on the EQS?
No. Only if you order it with the recently (today…) released Level 3 self driving package.
@@Maxxwellification On their other cars it wasn’t related to self driving, it was a sort of night vision safety feature to spot animals and people at night. I thought all the high end sedans had it.
How much does it cost, the main question?
$4k more than a plaid
ha ha ha ha ha, why does the outdated EQS have control stalks, Tesla deleted stalks in the Mod S/X......lol 😂
2:40 aren't rear facing radars in the tailight assemblies? (even at low speed for rear cross traffic alerts etc)
I like that the car tries to center between the markings and not the cars. Far too many people see nothing more than a "friendly suggestion" in these markings. Would be interesting to see what happens if there are no markings and just the other cars.
You’re supposed to use the half click/3 blinker signal for the lane change, not a full click
RTFB!
Imagine replacing just a single screen when it fails
I know design is subjective but I don't understand why they have the huge Mercedes logo on the front of the vehicle and then directly above it again on the hood. That looks goofy to me.
The 360 generated view is such a joke for this price tag.
Tesla will automatically accelerate, to do lane change, as to not piss off other drivers. how come EQS can't do this in 2022 ? 🤔
It did accelerate
@@Beaglow It did not, 14:52 it slowed down where even Chris stated that the car behind him would not have liked that.
@@pipooh1 it did accelerate to 80, before it was 70
@@Beaglow Idk what you watched, It was at 71 when he triggered the lane change, dropped to 62 until Chris forced it to speed up to 70+ by MANUALLY overwritting it cruise speed.
@@pipooh1 it did drop to 62 during the lane change, I didn't notice that, right. But any ACC accelerates to the set speed when the object in front is gone, so I can't imagine it was due to his inputs.
A question about legal implications of full-self-driving assistance.
If prevailing traffic is traveling in excess of the posted speed limit, does FSD roll with traffic or obey the posted limit?
If FSD is controlling the vehicle in excess of the posted limit and the vehicle is involved in an accident, does the fact that the vehicle was traveling in violation of the posted limit constitute contributory negligence? I can imagine a victim (or more likely the victim's insurance company) suing the vehicle manufacturer as the vehicle was traveling in excess of the posted limit.
It's either full self-driving, or driver assist, the two are fundamentally different. As long as it's sold as driver assist, the driver has full responsibility. When it's sold as full self-driving, the manufacturer takes all responsibility. That's one big reason why Tesla Insurance exists, they'd have to pay a fortune for insuring FSD.
@@andrasbiro3007 So as a matter of public policy, is FSD allowed to violate the posted speed limit?
@@dougavery345 Maybe it won't be allow. But when a car is driving itself, I don't think driving at speed limit will be a problem. Since I am not require to pay attention what matter if I am 3-5 minutes slower to point B. This is at least for me and I drive 5-10mph above speed limit.
On the interstate it is not unusual to find trucks exceeding the auto speed limit. I can imagine being stuck in the right lane among the trucks.
@@dougavery345
When FSD will drive without any human supervision, it will have to follow the law. In this case individuals can get away with breaking the rules much easier than corporations. Regulatory agencies can be very strict, and they don't just fine you, but force you to implement changes. They already made Tesla change trivial things many times in the name of safety. I can't imagine they'll let self-driving cars go over the speed limit.
On the other hand when self-driving cars replace most human drivers, which will happen fast, speed limits, and most other traffic rules will become obsolete. An AI will be able to judge safety far better than a human bureaucrat. It will be able to take into account hundreds of factors in real-time, while rules have to be general an rigid.
Will you live long enough to “drive until the battery dies”? They do seem to be lasting way longer than the life of a typical car lease these days.
I think he was referring to a single drive.
@@StormyDog ... and we wonder why so many nay-sayers get the wrong idea about batteries dying and requiring replacement! Choice of words matter in this kind of material.
You didn’t mention lidar.
Theres no lidar in this eqs
Wrong is not like Super Cruise or Blue Cruise which are hands free systems.
would have expected better parking props..
I would appreciate these reviews more if the presenters did a bit of background legwork before the camera turned on.
you know that camera mounted on the windshield is a VIOLATION, nothing is allowed to be attached to a windshield, unless factory OEM, or certain stickers like inspection sticker, so you are driving unsafe, and in violation, funny how that works
Please have this guy speak at a louder and consistent volume.
I love how Mercedes nails the essential stuff of a car, but everything that's remotely modern is just sooooo unintuitive 😂
I think he reluctantly acknowledges tesla’s assistance much better than this “hyped up” honey-pot ride
Not a fan. Some of this tech is just tech for the sake of tech, it doesn't really help. Rather than some of the dubious value Tech they're adding, hey should work a bit more on their voice recognition systems. Every time I see reviews of Mercedes or BMW the things are yapping away when you're not even talking to them. You should be able to choose your own wake word for that.
And making everything capacitive, it's just a money saver, real buttons should be in place for some functions. God gave us a sense of touch for a reason. If I had the money for this car, I would not touch it with a 10 ft pole.
It’s a car that pretty much 99% of the people can not afford.
This stiched picture with the off-scale car avatar is just embarrassing. I can't believe Mercedes has the guts to offer something like this.
"Back to the drawing boards. We'll get it right some day."
I'm glad I bought # 1 ~ a Model Y !
I was going to repeat how much I liked this car but won't because someone said it's for "girlie men".....lol
The car should stop when parking and approaching to any obstacle
Everyone who lives in a city will get their front and rear grilles bumped and damaged at some point. All these sensors and cameras will inevitably get damaged. Why does no one speak of the repair costs involved with EVs?
Some constructive feedback: I think the thumbnail on this video is too busy.
MUNRO - nice Mercedes Benz ad there, hope they paid you well.
It is weird to see a “review” done without any preparation and hoping the system to operate like Tesla’s. Taping randomly on buttons without even trying to understand what they are for. For example, from other reviews, it seems parking assist on the Mercedes is much better than Tesla’s, except the trigger is different.
This is the EV I really want!.
Why? 🤷🏻♂️
There are too many damn buttons, you need a smart parking system, something with one button to activate auto parking, the take too long to make a decision, because there too many button to push, if you’re in a busy parking lot other driver will get impatient and start honking you.
Many times I don't use the blinkers for changing the lane and I have to figth with the car haha. Because of this reason I don't like it