@@juliankeller5030 I believe the point was with all the modern technology how could it come down to that. You do know that was the point right ? Maybe you don't my apologies
@@tony23aful I dont think intelligent people would even consider that angle because its something only a potato would think is legitimate. They weren't responding to other forms of communication, so verbal become necessary except there was no one on the boat. Sigh...
With all these mega yacht issues I think imma just stay safe at home in Kentucky. My kayak doesn’t have lights I might get rund over. Can’t even pay my bills and I’m watching super yacht news. Good channel.
I find it difficult to have much sympathy for either mega-rich party. I suspect both are being run by incompetents (the ocean is pretty damn big, you sure there isn't enough room for both monstrosities to fit somehow?) This will go to insurance to sort out who fixes the scratch marks (probably each party has to fix their own scratch mark).
I’m worried now. There must be a multi angled video out there of me hitting a Clio in the car park yesterday. I only applied 4 notches on the hand brake. Clearly the weather required at least 7 notches. Oh well.
1:52 For the stern of Lady Moura to hit the bow of Venus they must have been moored VERY close together. In this illustration each vessel is moored so that the swing arc of the stern of each will miss the swing arc of the stern of neighbouring ship(s). The anchoring point of each ship (centre of the circle) will never be within any area of the circle of swing of another ship. This means that the edges of those circles never meet, but even if they were closely misjudged with some overlap - one ship simply anchoring too closely to another - only the sterns will swing towards each other for a potential collision in that small overlap. This also means that a collision would only be possible port-to-port or starboard-to-starboard. The strike of Lady Moura’s port stern against Venus’s starboard bow means that Venus’s anchor was dropped well within the swing arc/circle of Lady Moura’s anchorage. That’s not just ‘closely misjudged’, that’s negligent and virtually guarantees a collision. Venus is entirely at fault for creating the conditions for collision in this unusual manner.
Who are you? A lawyer for Lady Moura? "Sterns swinging toward each other????" That's not likely in real life. Boats tend to line up with the current or wind. In reality it's virtually impossible to know how much anchor rode is deployed on another ship (you can't tell by looking and you don't know where the anchor even is or how deep it is and how much rode is laid out) It takes cooperation and respect for other boaters. Moura could have laid out more anchor AFTER Venus anchored for example. Unfortunately some people can't play nice together. In your interpretation, what stops someone from laying 1/2 mile of anchor and claiming an enormous circle and the entire anchorage for themselves? In their own statement they laid "7 "shackles" of chain"...Well assuming 90 feet per 'shackle" that could mean 630 feet of anchor so they are claiming a cirlce of diameter 1260 feet(nearly 1/4 mile) of harbor. That's a pretty big circle. it's far from obvious who is completely "at fault" here. I'm not saying Lady Venus is innocent. Perhaps they did anchor too close and had too little rode, or perhaps Lady Moura had way too much rode or maybe they dragged and lied about it. My guess is that it's more likely to be a misunderstanding and misjudgment rather that outright obvious negligence, but I wasn't there, and likely neither were you.
This makes no sense. A circle cannot intersect another circle without the 2nd circle intersecting the first circle. They are mutually intersecting. Without knowing who anchored last it's impossible to know who's at fault. Although, this new footage seems to show Moura's engines running which suggests Moura has either just anchored, or was in the process of leaving the anchorage. Also, a collision will never happen in the way you describe while at anchor, as both yacht's bows always point into the wind, meaning they will never collide port to port or starboard to starboard.
In the last video I commented that it looked like Venus had her bow to the wind, making it look like Moura was the boat adrift. Boats at anchor almost always have their bow to the wind unless there's a strong current. Boats adrift are often blown perpendicular to the wind as Moura seems to have been.
It was totally obvious from the first video that Venus was stationary with tension on it's anchor chain due to the wind pulling it away from the Moura.
My first question and I’m by no means an expert but the boat moving into the other boat might just might have done better if it’s front anchor was actually in the water instead of fully out of the water. I know from my personal experiences that when I have my anchor actually set my boat moves a whole lot less. Now granted my boat would most likely be smaller than any tender in either of those ships but I think the principle still is valid if the anchor isn’t used it can’t help you
You can also see Lady Maura fire up her engines and drive forward. Another Note is that with the all the talk of recent issues with vessels taking on water Lady Moura had (3) Starboard Side Garage Doors open during a Squall and they all appear to be on the windward side. Seems a little dangerous to have all three open.
More of a kiss on the cheek than a crash... The problems of the rich and anonymous are a nice diversion from the work-a-day world…Most of us land-lubbers don't know the names of all the super yachts on sight. Didn't know which vessel was which until the Lady Moura presented her stern. As always, there's something interesting to learn in your videos, such as the explanation of anchorage.
Hee hee! Ain't that the truth. Makes me feel a bit more philosophical for having been ripped off when buying my ex hire Broads cruiser a couple of years ago 🙂I'm not exactly sure why I'm watching this channel. Hmmm.
Someone had one job & My query is, the ocean is such a huge open space, & if they are stopped / anchored, how comes the Lady Moura yachts stack plumes out a lot of dark smoke, as im sure an anchor cannot be raised that fast to avoid the crash As Venus got close / collided with Moura? I mean I’ve seen so many films which can’t all be lying, by seeing other vessels etc on a screen like an aircraft monitor showing where other things are within a specific area of each other?,
Yeah, how could the second vessel know how much rode the first had deployed? It should be 7 to 1, still it would seem the Lady Moura had some responsibility to tell Venus or move further away.
Unreal how these million dollar ships, with million dollar captains, could not figure out their anchor rode scope to avoid this, which it's something learned in the first few lessons of seamanship.
(Add your own not alls) crazy isnt it how so many rich people dont appreciate what they own… I suspect it parallels whether they earned their fortune or whether they just nicked someone elses idea…
Ships can take a long time to rev up engines. They may need to start a starting engine which starts the main engine. One thing that might have been possible is the ship ahead could take up some anchor line and reduce its scope. Maybe hard to do in a storm.
as more of us get our own super yachts ,it’s good to know about anchoring circles.
😂
LOL
As more of us squatters seek out new residences, it's good to know about anchored yachts
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Maybe somewhere, there is a video about the guy who opened his door against my Clio in the car park yesterday
Perhaps we need an app that gives safe door distances that you can consult before parking in Tesco..? 😉
Hahahahaha
@@NRoss-ep6owwe need ai
My pet pev
Are you sure the wind wasn't blowing you the other direction toward the other car with the door open? 😂😂😂
~$500 million in yachts and they resort to yelling “Heeey…. Heeey…. Heeey….!” Wow.
Yes in the year 2024 😮
What are they supposed to say?
@@juliankeller5030 I believe the point was with all the modern technology how could it come down to that. You do know that was the point right ? Maybe you don't my apologies
@@tony23aful I dont think intelligent people would even consider that angle because its something only a potato would think is legitimate. They weren't responding to other forms of communication, so verbal become necessary except there was no one on the boat. Sigh...
With all these mega yacht issues I think imma just stay safe at home in Kentucky. My kayak doesn’t have lights I might get rund over. Can’t even pay my bills and I’m watching super yacht news. Good channel.
Rich people’s problems. I’m looking for my tiny violin.
You can't pay your bills but you have a kayak??
Hilarious humor
You have all that room and you still hit something!
“Don’t worry about it, I’m dead.”
-Steve Jobs
His estate has plenty of insurance I'm sure.
Rich people problems 😂
Gee, we all feel so sorry for the hardship these people have to go through!
These are called yacht fights. Expensive!
Definitely one of those "In the meantime, back in the real world" moments.
"You scratched my anchor!"
Among Rodney’s best lines. 😎
I thought I recognized that line. 😂 classic movie. ❤
Tough week to be the 1% they can’t even trust their mega yacht
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Some of these comments are soo funny... thanks for making my day.
The crew of the Venus comes up on deck at 3:02. A little too late, but you'd think somebody would be on watch.
And miss all the free toot downstairs?
Fascinating from another perspective mate 👍🏴😁
Man, those super rich people really have incredible real world problems.
.5 world problems
I find it difficult to have much sympathy for either mega-rich party. I suspect both are being run by incompetents (the ocean is pretty damn big, you sure there isn't enough room for both monstrosities to fit somehow?) This will go to insurance to sort out who fixes the scratch marks (probably each party has to fix their own scratch mark).
Sympathy did not even cross my mind at this point .
Does anyone know if the helicopter moved a little bit in the collision and scratched the teak wood?
The problems of the mega rich , must be very stressful worrying about your mega yacht getting a scratch on it.
Why didnt they deploy some bumpers?
Two mega yachts hitting in the
middle of an Ocean🌊
I love my pontoon boat 🛥👍😉😊
I’m worried now. There must be a multi angled video out there of me hitting a Clio in the car park yesterday. I only applied 4 notches on the hand brake. Clearly the weather required at least 7 notches. Oh well.
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Venus was fixed through an automatic Apple update. Followed by another update to repair the previous update.
Coming through boys with my ultra yacht
1:52 For the stern of Lady Moura to hit the bow of Venus they must have been moored VERY close together. In this illustration each vessel is moored so that the swing arc of the stern of each will miss the swing arc of the stern of neighbouring ship(s). The anchoring point of each ship (centre of the circle) will never be within any area of the circle of swing of another ship. This means that the edges of those circles never meet, but even if they were closely misjudged with some overlap - one ship simply anchoring too closely to another - only the sterns will swing towards each other for a potential collision in that small overlap. This also means that a collision would only be possible port-to-port or starboard-to-starboard. The strike of Lady Moura’s port stern against Venus’s starboard bow means that Venus’s anchor was dropped well within the swing arc/circle of Lady Moura’s anchorage. That’s not just ‘closely misjudged’, that’s negligent and virtually guarantees a collision. Venus is entirely at fault for creating the conditions for collision in this unusual manner.
Who are you? A lawyer for Lady Moura? "Sterns swinging toward each other????" That's not likely in real life. Boats tend to line up with the current or wind.
In reality it's virtually impossible to know how much anchor rode is deployed on another ship (you can't tell by looking and you don't know where the anchor even is or how deep it is and how much rode is laid out) It takes cooperation and respect for other boaters.
Moura could have laid out more anchor AFTER Venus anchored for example.
Unfortunately some people can't play nice together.
In your interpretation, what stops someone from laying 1/2 mile of anchor and claiming an enormous circle and the entire anchorage for themselves?
In their own statement they laid "7 "shackles" of chain"...Well assuming 90 feet per 'shackle" that could mean 630 feet of anchor so they are claiming a cirlce of diameter 1260 feet(nearly 1/4 mile) of harbor. That's a pretty big circle.
it's far from obvious who is completely "at fault" here. I'm not saying Lady Venus is innocent. Perhaps they did anchor too close and had too little rode, or perhaps Lady Moura had way too much rode or maybe they dragged and lied about it.
My guess is that it's more likely to be a misunderstanding and misjudgment rather that outright obvious negligence, but I wasn't there, and likely neither were you.
This makes no sense. A circle cannot intersect another circle without the 2nd circle intersecting the first circle. They are mutually intersecting. Without knowing who anchored last it's impossible to know who's at fault.
Although, this new footage seems to show Moura's engines running which suggests Moura has either just anchored, or was in the process of leaving the anchorage.
Also, a collision will never happen in the way you describe while at anchor, as both yacht's bows always point into the wind, meaning they will never collide port to port or starboard to starboard.
😝 😝 😝. I’m loving this!!!!
In the last video I commented that it looked like Venus had her bow to the wind, making it look like Moura was the boat adrift. Boats at anchor almost always have their bow to the wind unless there's a strong current. Boats adrift are often blown perpendicular to the wind as Moura seems to have been.
It was totally obvious from the first video that Venus was stationary with tension on it's anchor chain due to the wind pulling it away from the Moura.
Lady crew was on the bridge and reacted to the situation . How about Venus crew ? Were they busy with something ?
In your video we can see people on the deck of Venus. Where were they when the horns were going off?
who cares ? so one billionaire bumped into another billianiaires yacht and caused them ten cents worth of damage if billionaire dollars!
As big as the ocean is, and these two boats collide.
And once again is there any such thing as a captain anymore?
Not an expert here, why the venti ampli is used for the tweeters? The difference between the thesis is heardable?
My first question and I’m by no means an expert but the boat moving into the other boat might just might have done better if it’s front anchor was actually in the water instead of fully out of the water. I know from my personal experiences that when I have my anchor actually set my boat moves a whole lot less. Now granted my boat would most likely be smaller than any tender in either of those ships but I think the principle still is valid if the anchor isn’t used it can’t help you
The captain of my auperyacht would have never let this happen
You can also see Lady Maura fire up her engines and drive forward. Another Note is that with the all the talk of recent issues with vessels taking on water Lady Moura had (3) Starboard Side Garage Doors open during a Squall and they all appear to be on the windward side. Seems a little dangerous to have all three open.
More of a kiss on the cheek than a crash... The problems of the rich and anonymous are a nice diversion from the work-a-day world…Most of us land-lubbers don't know the names of all the super yachts on sight. Didn't know which vessel was which until the Lady Moura presented her stern. As always, there's something interesting to learn in your videos, such as the explanation of anchorage.
Any damage to Venus could only improve the looks of that yacht. 🤔
Exactly. Jobs sure had weird tastes
Hee hee! Ain't that the truth. Makes me feel a bit more philosophical for having been ripped off when buying my ex hire Broads cruiser a couple of years ago 🙂I'm not exactly sure why I'm watching this channel. Hmmm.
Really? Venus is sleek. Of the two, she’s a stiletto vs an Air Jordan from the 90s.
Hello Super Yacht Venus, this is Lady Moura, could you move a few hundred meters, and have you any Grey Poupon?
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Do they all hang around in the same bay all the time?
The video sure doesn’t show a squall .
I got bumped into at the church food pantry
One question and One comment: What's the difference between a megayacht and a superyacht? That looked much more like a boop than a collision.
Someone had one job & My query is, the ocean is such a huge open space, & if they are stopped / anchored, how comes the Lady Moura yachts stack plumes out a lot of dark smoke, as im sure an anchor cannot be raised that fast to avoid the crash As Venus got close / collided with Moura? I mean I’ve seen so many films which can’t all be lying, by seeing other vessels etc on a screen like an aircraft monitor showing where other things are within a specific area of each other?,
And don’t forget that Al bundy made 4 touchdowns 1966😂
The Jobs’ “yacht” looks more like an office building. Yet it was standing still next to the swing of the other ship. Equally odd in a squall.
Was Jobs on board HIS superyacht at the time?
It's good Mora tried to move, unfortunately too late.
One yacht definitely looked like it was already anchored. The other yacht was effected by bad weather
The damage from this "brush" cost more than I make in 10 years. SMH
Harilarious!
Hold my beer...
🤔 Doesn’t a Mega yacht sound like it would be bigger than Super yacht?
Lady Moura is clearly at anchor. It does not appear that Venus has dropped anchor.
Steve Jobs is going to be mad!
1 shackle = 90 ft = 27.4 m
7 shackles = 192 m witch is almost 5 times the water depth.
Rich people problems
It doesn’t matter. They anchored too close and apparently the whole crew decided to take a nap and not tend to the boat
All that money and no way to blow up a giant balloon on the side of the boats.
Yeah, how could the second vessel know how much rode the first had deployed? It should be 7 to 1, still it would seem the Lady Moura had some responsibility to tell Venus or move further away.
Imagine getting axed like this. That's a lotta damage!
Unreal how these million dollar ships, with million dollar captains, could not figure out their anchor rode scope to avoid this, which it's something learned in the first few lessons of seamanship.
The names of rich peoples toys isn’t accidental
A friggin entire ocean.......
😮 The WIND 💨 DID NOT cause the accident. The Captain of the newly ⚓️ anchored yacht (small boat) was 💯 % at fault.
Pretty mild “collision”!
I heard Steve Jobs is not happy about it
No fenders?
How would you protect against a wedge-shaped cleaver of a super yacht with regular fenders?
@@WolfHeathen dont know 🤷♂️
If neither dragged anchor, and that can be verified, I think the answer is obvious, but what does maritime law dictate?
God is working his hands
Oh the horrors of it all
It's a pretty big ocean, people. Maybe these silly boats can give a wide berth?
It's okay Steve Jobs won't be using it anytime soon.
(Add your own not alls) crazy isnt it how so many rich people dont appreciate what they own… I suspect it parallels whether they earned their fortune or whether they just nicked someone elses idea…
Life’s sure is rough.
His wife inherited it.
What is obvious is that there was nobody on watch on Venus.
Wtf , captain license should be pulled!
Its actually steve jobs yacht crash into the other
That anchor signal is pathetic
the one assigned to be on watch has lost his job :)
Yachta, yachta, yachta 🙄
Was Steve Jobs ok?
these poor people, how will they fix their boats, someone set up a go fund me page for these people to fix their boats
Has a go fund me been started to cover the cost of repairs?
Am I supposed to feel bad?
How is this even possible?
Oh, no! 2 billionaires collided.
Did they exchange insurance information??
entering stage right: lawyers, drugs, and money
This people have soo much money they can buy another one. This shouldn't even bother it.
Is Steve Job the owner???...Then it is a ghost ship!!!!..
Why does "steve jobs" still own... anything??
Yacht was ordered by him and is owned by his wife.
Nothing that an apple software update won’t solve ….
Rich problems.........NEXT! 😅
Dumb question, why didn't the vessel move under its own power?
Ships can take a long time to rev up engines. They may need to start a starting engine which starts the main engine. One thing that might have been possible is the ship ahead could take up some anchor line and reduce its scope. Maybe hard to do in a storm.
Absurdly large ships for just a few people. Should be taxed heavily as environmentally super unfriendly.
Probably just a couple hundred dollars of damage. Is it worth the 100$ deductible and getting the insurance companies involved? 😂
Dear Squatters, stop settling on cruddy land houses. Go for the unmanned anchored yachts. Thank you
Don't loose time on this people's problems........so they won't with yours....