Shout out to the father!! He's very level headed and I love how he's trying to spark a productive debate on how to fix the college admissions issue. With a father like him, Stanley will be successful regardless of where he ends up!
@@EdwardsCommentnot white enough and not enough bribery money to get them in like undeserving white kids with parents that pay for them without credentials
University admissions should be transparent. After all, how could students work toward their goal of being admitted to the schools of their choice if the admission requirements are kept secret?
Feedback is useful if colleges are honest with their feedback. If laws were in place to enforce feedback, I believe colleges would mostly tailor their feedback to limit their legal liability. They may start giving completely bogus reasons. I understand and agree with your motivations for demanding feedback but I believe ensuring genuine feedback from colleges is more tricky than you imagine.
Why not consider exploring other schools? Instead of dwelling on rejection, it's important to remember that not everything is about an individual. Asian Americans have sometimes advised other communities to move forward from the past, just as they are navigating the changing landscape of Affirmative Action policies. It's not just about one group or changing the system to usurp others, but rather addressing fairness and equality for all. In a diverse educational landscape with over 5,300 institutions, it's a fact that not everyone will be selected. Rejections are a part of life, something we often remind others about. Let's approach these issues with understanding and empathy.
So we need to change America so cry baby bitches, get to complain about how they can't get into the top Elite schools, (fyi He was Accepted into other schools, he just didn't like them). We should make it so they can. Isn't that why you didn't like affirmative action?
A job at Google is a lot more prestigious than a college degree, even an Ivy League degree. Hell, I'd say to hell with Google, focus 100% on building and growing his startup, RabbitSign.
The teen had the final laugh and that’s all that matters. He will eat well for days and enjoy the state of the art facilities. So lucky but well deserved. Another institution saw his worth
I doubt that he is having a good time. For one thing his "colleagues" will be asking how he got that job... and it could only have been by being someone's favorite. People who had to work hard to get where they are don't appreciate that kind of thing and they will make him feel it every day of the week.
@@schmetterling4477 “make him feel it every day of the week?” lol as long as he doesn’t have toxic colleagues and bad work management ,. He’ll just need a right mentor to build up his skills. The traditional path to school is out dated 😬 this kid will be fine :) someone saw something in this person
@@davinxi5926 A person who doesn't like favoritism isn't a toxic colleague. It's the kind of person that you want in your organization. If by "mentor" you mean a person who will promote him because of personal connections, then you are basically just promoting the worst form of organizational management. You will promote one favorite and lose ten honest workers in the process who expect to be treated fairly and who will notice that they never will be.
@@schmetterling4477Everyone knows his story and he will be welcomed with open arms at Google because that is the kind of unique company they are. I will be spending the day at Google tomorrow and I know their culture is one of welcoming and teamwork. My daughter also works there and she will be one of many employees who will be more than happy to have him!
Exactly! They have that attitude that they have to get it whenever they apply. Colleges want to diversify their student body not have an all Asian students.
The admission process of our colleges and universities are really messed up, Stanley Zhong was obviously racially discriminated during the process; I am glad the affirmative action is removed, but its effect is still lingering and keeping good students from being admitted.
It is NOT removed. It's just like the elections. I don't need to proof there is voter fraud - you need to proof your election integrity is sound. So similarly, they say officially affirmative action is gone and admissions are based on the "wholesomeness" of the student. Diversity, Equality (of outcomes) and Inclusion, DEI, is still reverse racism. Asians bear the brunt of this racism because they have less access to backdoor methods like sports, alumni, donor.
with no proof you said the effects are lingering where ? Also CA banned AA a longtime ago. If you think AA made him not go into the school you are delusional as he has a better app than most asians at those schools .
Every one assumes affirmative action is racially beneficial…. It was actually most beneficial to women…. Plus California banned racially based admissions back in the 90s
Samething happen to my son at Cal Poly. He had a 4.5 gpa with near perfect scores on the SAT and ACT. Decided to attend community college and later transferred.
@@bobyang2304 maybe the asian kids with rich parents in the bay area aren't getting in. I would like to see the acceptance rate of low income asian kids.
As a country, US will degrade, deteriorate into a 3rd world country, if “merit based” is not applied, as US will lose competency to other countries who apply merit based process.
Merit only works if all schools in America are funded the same way but the reality is many schools in poor districts are underfunded which means students aren't getting a decent education. How do you apply merit if students are already on an uneven learning curve compared to their peers living in wealthier districts.
Due to AA some super good kids with gpa of 4 and sat of 1600 are rejected and end up in community colleges. Obviously these kids will do well any condition. Wealthy family and extra tutorial will not get a kids such achievement. This is indeed crime to the country.
@@bobyang2304 Affirmative Action has been long gone in California and Affirmative Action actually benefited White women more than people of color in the 21st century. Also Wealthy family and extra tutorial will not get kids such achievement? How did Stanley went to such a good school and get extra support in a good district without his parents making good money to live there? Tell me how do you do that with no money?
I am 100% certain Stanley (as a highly achieved kid; he also got perfect PSAT score with zero prep) will do VERY well anywhere in any family. He is just smart and diligent. Growing in good financial and supportive family (which he can NOT choose ) become an very negative thing to AOs. This is very hard to understand. It it totally against US constitution and democracy.
@@minxili3317 Yes, AA is everywhere in CA schools. Give you an personal example. In my daughter’s school (a very prestigious middle school), almost all Asian kids were rejected to local good private schools. This includes a girl who published a book in 7 grade, published lots of poets/articles in magazines; win 4 scholastic award in middle school, got multiple California state level PF debate champions and other speech awards, IQ >>140; straight A/A+ grade 1-8 with little effort; won 10+ art award, school ambassador, school government leader; super talent in music with piano gold medal, and playing string in local youth orchestra, etc. Her composed music amazed many teachers. She got rejected in all private high schools she applied for. While many other kids (other race; normal performance) got multiple offers. Among them, an African American kid got offers from all private high schools applied. It just makes NO sense. The country owes the little girl and many other good kids if the system is not fixed. I swear I am telling the truth.
Do you remember several years back the whole college admissions scandal where parents bribed schools to guarantee their kid gets a spot? As you mentioned, there are only so many spots for admission. Space is limited. It is definitely incredibly competitive, and you don't know why he was rejected. He was definitely qualified. He doesn't exactly stand out as an applicant, but got a job offer from Google.
If they make it transparent, I would expect lots of bribes, etc also like what happened years ago that you mentioned. It is likely one reason they make it a black box.
Equally there could be many other potentially successful candidates out there with some coursework, great practical experience but no college degree. Throw it back to the hiring managers who actually need to know what each position will entail and how to assess a candidate without relying on a piece of paper from an "accredited" institution!
You forgot that most of these students and athletes have at least a 3.0 or higher. Check the stats again. Your bigotry has left you behind in knowledge. Keep up!!
@@torig.5864 when i was in high school in SF, the varsity basketball athletes had special classes together, they didnt have to do homework, their books were bought for them, they had extra tutors. id hope they could squeak out a 3.0, but alas, only one of them made it to college sports.
“We regret to inform you” is a hidden , systematic way of eliminating a potential skill . Right to education depending on qualifications and competitiveness has to be free of conspiracies.
I think he was rejected because of Affirmative Action (against Asians) and I truly believe that information such as name, ethnicity, and and sex/gender should not be included in the college application and that acceptance into a university should be based solely on merit.
The reality is you're not going to get transparency from these college institutions. Each college institution plays the game differently and they aren't going to reveal this to you. This should be a wake up call to parents who assume that getting good grades and doing basic extracurricular activities will get your kid into the top school. Things are way more competitive now and schools are looking for students who will contribute to their campuses not just someone who does the typical path to get admitted to colleges. Metrics are also not a good measure because no human being is the same. This method won't work at all.
Contribute to their campus in what ways? Schools must make their admission requirements known so that prospective applicants can work toward meeting them. As it is now, it's just a guessing game.
@@theotheleo6830 Take part in clubs, extracurricular activities, create a club or organization, and be a future leader in college so they can give back to the college in the future as alumnis by offering jobs to students or donate to colleges. Have a personality and know how to talk. This is part of being a leader. Colleges are not looking for personalities that every student can replicate, you have to be your unique self and you can't fake this. Metrics are impossible to make because we aren't grading students like a homework assignment. They are looking at the student holistically. Every college's definition of holistic is different. How in the world are you going to mold your kid to suit every school's different idea of holistic?
@@minxili3317 If these are the requirements, they should be included in their stated admissions policies. Otherwise, as I said earlier, it's just a guessing game. And as far as requiring a unique personality, we're all born unique, so everyone fulfills that requirement. Thus, stating that they're looking for "unique personalities" without specifying the qualities they deem to be unique sounds like code for a hidden meaning. Also, having a personality and knowing how to talk should not be given a higher priority than intelligence and proven scholastic achievement. After all, these are institutions of higher learning, not entertainment venues.
@@theotheleo6830 They're not going to state this lol If they do then everyone will start to give the same responses and the universities will still find different ways to choose their applicants without telling you. You can disagree with how they choose their applicants but this is the reality on how they choose their applicants. Being born unique is not enough for them lol Your definition of being unique is not the same as their definition of unique. This is the reality. If they told you what unique applicants they are looking for then everyone will try to fit that mold. By the end no one will be unique lol College has always been a game and their policies have always been a guessing game. College also use different types of entertainment and activities to recruit different types of students. Just because your kid is only academically focused doesn't mean every kid will only be focused on academics. Some kids like to do both entertainment and academics. Colleges have made buildings to house entertainment like events for clubs, organizations, networking, and jobs. College is not only academics. Entertainment is also a part of it. College has never only viewed themselves as academic institutions only.
Google is a company it aims to maximize the return they pay for employee. Therefore they try best to select most competitive candidates. While for undergrad admission college have no incentive to find academic strong candidates as they pay the same tuition. However for PhD admission, it is purely meritocracy as google hiring
While Stanley couldn't get into the schools he wanted, meanwhile, CA is offering in-state tuition to Mexico residents who don't even live in our state. Talk about competition.
If he were a different minority, he would have had a full-ride to every single Ivy League. Now, he can succeed in ways that no other average college grad can. Congrats to the teen and his family!
😂Or if his daddy, grand daddy, uncles, great grands attended an Ivy League, he'd have been GUARANTEED admittance. Oh,also if his family gave funds to build a lab or gym etc. I think that's more realistic than "if he was another minority".
Why beat around the bush? There's no real need for more "transparency", because it's already very clear: college admissions teams exist to "build a student body" in the image they wish to see, and not to ensure fair treatment of candidates based on objective criteria. And in a way, this would be fine, as long as the admissions process were done on a per-department basis. That way, STEM departments could use only objective criteria in admissions, and the "soft" departments could admit anyone they wish, which means primarily using race/ethnicity and gender/sexual orientation to achieve the balance sought by admissions officers. Applicants would be aware of this going in, and future employers would be aware as well. Then the real public debate could take place, i.e. who owns the colleges, and who directs the actions and goals of admissions officers in the first place.
The kids dad works at google, let's have some transparency in the hiring process. Without a strong computer science background and hundreds if not thousands of hours of practice coding interview questions, there's very little chance of getting a software engineering job at google, unless someone can pull some strings like daddy who also works there. Anyone in software engineering knows the difficulty of passing those interview questions, that is if you the 0.01% of people who even get a chance to interview.
While I don't think the father has any influence on his son's job offer at the company, what I will say the father definitely has some insight pertaining to the interview process and what is being tested on. Like many other tech jobs, they can only show you the door. But once you walk through the door, you're 100% entirely on your own during the process.
The reality is Stanley went to a competitive high school and when you go to a competitive high school, college applicants grade you more strictly because they know you had better resources in that school compared to a student who went to a school in a poorer district. Stanley was not good enough in the college institution's eyes because his other peers who went to the same school as he did did better than him. Now if Stanley did not go to a competitive high school, he would've had a higher chance to get accepted in those colleges.
It is a race issue. I start to see this trend in the mid 90s. My friend’s brother has 4.2 GPA and a near perfect SAT score, but was rejected by UVA. Another person in our school who is of a different race got in with the same major, a 3.6GPA and a much less SAT score.
Sure, you do until he is in politics. There are people, like Andrew Yang and no one voted for him for President or here in NYC (most people including you are probably all talk).
When race triumph merit you soon going to get doctors and engineers who are incompetent in doing their job and graduate from top schools. only people that suffer are the patients and civilians I can confirm that there is extreme racism happening in our school. Well I have a 1.6 GPA and I was accepted to all the top tier one schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT and I can't help but wonder if it's because I was a gay black man.
The real racism lies in your comment. The UC schools he was rejected from do not use affirmative action. I can guarantee that the person who "took his spot" was another Asian student.
I saw this happen to another girl who made $250k annually from her own business. I think the schools are saying that these people have something good going on, so see where that leads first.
I think transparency is only fair. Even state schools charge a pretty penny, that’s the bare minimum they could do. Imagine if when buying a 40K car you were given 0 information about it. That wouldn’t fly
I got accepted to UC Davis with a 3.9 GPA back in the ‘90s. It was basically the school that all UC Berkeley rejects went to at the time. Didn’t know that the standards have increased so dramatically. Glad the kid got a job at Google though, which was probably the better outcome.
9 University of California campuses, didn’t apply to the 3 UC campuses where he could have had more of a chance of admission. He probably thought these campuses were beneath him. Computer Science is a highly competitive major, with single digit admission rates at the UCs. He was not realistic enough at least as far as his University of California admission chances is concerned.
This is pretty cut and dry. He didn't stand out from the rest of the students(ethnicity aside) in his bracket. He applied to some of the most impacted school and competitive programs in the country. He even admits that he wasn't shocked by some of the rejections. The cut off for some of the UCs this year was 4.4. Meaning students in his bracket had a GPA higher than his. He didn't have extra curriculars. Just another student. He's competing against people in his bracket. If people aren't informed enough to see that, that's their issue. He has a job at Google with his Dad. He should be happy, instead of him and his father trying to be a victim.
Of course you would think the way you do 😂 They discriminated against his race. If he was black like yourself he would’ve been accepted at more colleges. That is pretty cut and dry. Doesn’t surprise me you are in denial about that. Point is it’s not fair that everyone else gets free handouts just for doing the bare minimum and being a person of color
Yup this is suspicious now with the “movement” already prepped to go. He probably had the google offer with the intent of taking the offer and the dad made him probably sent the applications with essays to purposely sink the chances and set up this “movement”
@bozhiyang2304 The UC system is heavily Asian already and they haven't used affirmative action in decades. Everyone thinks their kid is a genius so they all apply to highly competitive programs and expect admission but they are competing with students just like himself and even better. When did being a coder and having a job offer from Google mean automatic admission? Maybe his application was terrible because he assumed admission was guaranteed
This kid will do way better in life than most of the students graduating from the IvyLeague schools. Let’s call it what it is, he was discriminated against because he was Asian.
The problem with what the father wants is that these colleges will start giving out bogus reasons if there's ever a law along the lines of what the father wants. Think about pretext in employment terminations. Instead of just saying nothing, the colleges will lie through their teeth.
Unfortunately, you make a good point. Was recently turned down for a job after the interview. I know people who did get it, and they were stunned I did not (my qualifications are higher). I insisted on being told why, and got a copy pasta hand wavy answer.
While knowledge and skills is very important, a college degree should not be a mandatory requirement for employment. We need to normalize alternative ways for job training.
My Child was born and raised in CA and Rejected from many UC's. He was on a waiting list for UC Irvine. He had great scores and Hispanic. He ended going out of State. They can only accept so many students in each college. Many of his classmates went to a Jr. College for 2 years then transered to a UC. They all went to excellent public schools in So Cal and also had excellent grades. What makes your student the exception? When I was growing up in the Bay Area, foreigners where coming in buying up houses. Not only did it drive up the realestate prices, making it difficult for the next generation of locals to afford. It was also to establish residency so their children would be accepted to our universities much easier
Google hires about most people now in days. The issue is staying innovative for more projects, or even then, knowing their methodologies would make for a great team member.
Congratulations to him! 🎉🎉🎉 something similar happened to me when I applied to work remotely for a banking job didn't want to get me even though I have 15 plus years of experience. Then I applied too work for a county job and I got it.
The father seems to be illuding to prejudicial treatment of his son? He might want to temper his view with the fact that there are twice as many asians in the world as europeans. So some rejection should probably be expected?!
Weak. This is about the applicant pool for colleges, and others with lesser qualifications were selected over him, because of racial quotas which are illegal. Is that not a legitimate story for you?
Or we just forget college all together. It's a waste of time for 90% of career paths. I hire people at my company for who they are, what they know, and what they can do. How or where they learned that knowledge is meaningless to me and frankly, a person who took the initiative to learn in-depth advanced topics on their own outside a structured school setting is substantially more impressive than someone who took on $200k in debt to waste 4 years of their lives memorizing things for tests.
This newscaster is uncharismatic, on the verge of rude. Not great questions, and accusatorial. Perhaps she has a (questionable) degree from one of these universities of higher indoctrination ...
As for the overqualified concern with state schools -- it is common for schools to reject applicants that they feel might be "overqualified" if they sense that the student only applied as a "safety" and has no real intention of attending the school -- so as not impact the schools "yield" rate
Then show it. Be transparent. Say that X% of high GPA students are rejected because of “Fear of Safety School”. Because parents of high GPA students want to know why lower GPA students are being admitted.
@@chellichelli346 1. schools get 10's of thousands of applicants .. I'm not sure that they have the resources to respond to each rejected student as to why they got rejected -- there is lots of available date . 2 Schools don't admit students purely by selecting the highest GPA's ...and dont claim to. As a GPA in if itself doesn't mean a whole lot ... what they also look at when looking at a GPA is rigor of course load. i.e one student could have a higher GPA than another simply because they took less challenging courses . They also only tend to mostly judge students GPA against .the GPA's of other students at their school . This kid in the video went to a high achieving HS in Palo Alto -- so he might not have even been top 20% in his class . 3. Also , all the schools he was rejected from were schools that tend to get tons of high achieving applicants with GPS's just as good as his . 4. I see no evidence that he was rejected in favor of lee qualified applicants . 5. He was also a CS major which tends to be one of the most popular majors . There are tons of videos going advice on the details of how the college admissions process tends to work if you are interested . I think what some parents of "High GPA students" don't seem to understand is just how many studnets there are in the US alone with great stats .... every HS in America has a valedictorian and top 10%.....and thats no taking account for all of the high achievers from Asia, Europe , Africa , Europe , Australia who also apply yo these schools,
Ridiculous. Being an asian male hurt him, and that should be illegal. NVM anyway, the kid is already WAY ahead of his peers, will make way more $$$ with no student debt, and won't be subjected to woke nonsense. Big win as I see it.
Unless he has business acumen (very few have that) his "career" will also stall very quickly. One can't compete intellectually against a proper graduate from one of the better schools.
This sets an interesting precedent. With recent affirmative action issues, could this be a way for highly qualified Asian students to skip college before joining the “pros”?
Sure, if you want to end up in a hopeless career cul-de-sac. Do you want me to point you to a million "programmers" who don't know the first thing about computer science and software engineering because they didn't take four years to learn CS at a good university? They are all over TH-cam. They can't even tell you the most trivial things about computers and programming and are stuck in dev hell. ;-)
@@schmetterling4477if you are smart enough to get into Google, the fundamentals of CS will be intuitive enough for you to learn yourself with a little bit of study. Knowing the fundamentals alone can lead to a long and productive career, if you have drive and intelligence. More than that is only useful for research level work.
I would actually love to see that happen. Going straight into in-house training programs while getting paid, to learn the same things as they would have learned in engineering departments at universities. Meanwhile the colleges would be left as purveyors of false narratives about "social justice" and nothing else, and their funding would dry up. I kind of like this fantasy.
@@schmetterling4477I disagree. For many people, universities have become little more than job training institutions. And people who get useless degrees at universities can still be losers. Not that it matters to what I wrote, but my background is a university graduate from UC Berkeley.
let's all not pretend here that you haven't used a "I know someone" or "hook me up" card, everyone would bite at the chance if given, don't act all humble.
Basically... people who are against favoritism in college will speak out for favoritism in the workplace. What's the supposed difference here? I don't get it. ;-)
A good solution is for Asian people to start their own schools/universities similar to how Jewish people have Yeshiva, etc. African Americans and people of Afro-descent have historical colleges and universities, like Howard and Spelman too. Elon Musk loves to run his mouth but why didn't he hire the kid or better yet write him a letter. Nonetheless, this kid will be fine. I mean how many kids get jobs at Google at 18 (his dad works Google too). Also, he was accepted to 2 schools (why did he put them on his list if he didn't want to go to them at all?). He will be fine since he comes from opportunity. I feel sorry for the kid with the same CV as him who got rejected from everything and has no 6-figure job to fall back on incase he or she doesn't want to go to the schools that accepted him or her (regardless of race, ethnicity and nationality). It has nothing to do with his race and if another group was on here doing that, like the comment section is now we know you people would have an issue with it. Nonetheless, Affirmative Action has been gutted and legacy admissions are still going strong. This kid is most likely competing with other Asians who have the same CV as him (he is not unique in the Asian community at all considering how some Asian parents push their kids' academics and so on). There is nothing wrong with community college because eventually they can use the experience there to transfer into other large universities, etc. The dad is just being an elitist/brat. Try going to another country and telling them what they should do with their schools. Some of the people that come to the U.S. come here because they couldn't make it in their native country plus the education in the U.S. is easier these days since we are not only math and science based in our schools. Congrats to the kid though in the end. The lady who is interviewing the father should have known that race does not play apart in admissions regarding state schools in California before the supreme court ruling. This man had to educate the reporter on something she should have known (embarrassing). Also, Affirmative Action will have little impact at all on those type of admissions even with the law changing (people are just bone heads). There are not that many non-Asians on Ivy league campuses not because there are no other kids who are bright but because not enough non-Asians apply even when Affirmative Action was a thing. The people in the comment section are mostly just talking and never watched the videos, which is why the comments sound so clueless (watch before you comment to get an idea of what is going on geez). This is why our country is going downhill, etc. People can't listen or read.
It's disappointing not to be accepted into a college or university. I was rejected by MIT and chose to attend a different school. While you're applying to some of the most prestigious institutions on the planet, remember that admission is not guaranteed solely because you're Asian. Consider applying to other colleges and universities. It's important not to dwell on rejection and avoid using Affirmative Action as an excuse, as it's no longer a factor in college admissions.
I like how he's screaming from the mountains but just shite on community college goers like they are trash. Get over it! He didn't get in like thousands of other people's kids. There's thousands of colleges in the US if he's so smart he should be able to apply and get excepted anywhere. This is entitlement at it's finest!
Here is transparency: Colleges are not hiring you to be an engineer for Google. They are not a placeholder for your future employer. They are places of learning. Their goal is to educate people, not to stamp your card so you can get hired at specific companies.
How did he get hired by Google if they're rigorous about degrees? Someone's showing that Google doesn't check copy and paste workmanship. There were several false identification issues in thus report, and a furthering in the deterioration of hiring based off of actual transparency that always existed with acceptance and rejection letters. 16 colleges would have stated why they didn't accept him. 37 (from the tactic being used) would have accepted him without much cleverness in the wording. You can even read in the rejection letters that there is a way to appeal the rejection, but if memory serves correctly, some people use that time to place their identification and credentials along side those who are appealing correctly. It's very damaging not to coexist with the complete totals and assume that stating 16 colleges and a news story will fix corruption.
What this kid and his Dad don't seem to realiz is that elite colleges get tons of applicants with GPA's just as good as his .. way more than that have spaces for . Not to mention that these schools have departmental needs to fill.. i.e a school might take a kid with a 3.8 who wants to major in Philosophy if there is a department need for more philosophy majors over a kid with a 4.0 who plans on majoring in Computer Science ..if there they have tons of Computer Science applicants
WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE 4.O OVER QUALIFIED WHO APPLIES FROM THE USA AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. SO HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE OR NOR BETTER FROM OTHERS. THIS IS A WASTE OF NEWS STORIES.
Hired by Google. It helps to know someone at Google. Doesn’t get any better than your own dad works there. Go check out his dad’s position at Google then make your conclusion.
Affirmative action hasn't been done in public universities in California since the 90s. Make more excuses. He should have applied to more schools. There are finite spaces in each school, and even smaller finite spaces for each major. They're not going to fire all the history, English, biology, etc. professors just because extra people applied for computer science majors. Get real.
UCSD’s cs program is ranked 3 in the nation. Higher than berkeley or standford. He applied for a very impacted major though he had the stats I’d agree him being Asian probably was the cause of his app being rejected.
@@chaddawsome9302 yeah his stats aren’t really anything new from my other peers here at ucsd not just grades wise but e.c things like hackathons and such
But the issue isn't that he was rejected by UCSD alone, rather, it is that he was rejected by sixteen universities, including Cal Poly. His scholastic achievements should have made his application stand out.
I think the universities should have a score sheet of admission for each student so they would know they weakness or over qualifications. It had been a standard practice of reverse discrimination in Calif or even all over U.S. against Asian students for years. Most Asian students wouldn't even bother to apply for Ivy league or other universities. They just went to state universities.
The odds are that whoever took his space will probably not graduate, and if they do it'll be with a worthless degree and we will be paying their student loan
I have to believe there is something wrong with the kid or his admissions he submitted. You have excellent grades, excellent SAT scores, and get rejected by a couple schools it maybe an issue, you get rejected by 16 schools everywhere from high end to medium end schools, it may have more to do with the kid than "the system" since it was 16 independent "the systems" who rejected him for whatever reason. That said, he got a job at Google, that probably will work out better for him than what he would have learned in college.
I know a kid who gets even better GPA, act tests than this kid. He did his volunteering, extra curriculum activities, etc. But no first line school accepted him. Luckily, he was accepted by Oxford and moved to England. There goes another bright kid.
This is suspicious now with the “movement” already prepped to go. He probably had the google offer with the intent of taking the offer and the dad made him probably sent the applications with essays to purposely sink the chances and set up this “movement”
@@jaad9848you obviously don't have kids off to college. Its a horrible system. If he was a darker skin tone he would have gotten the college he wanted
@@Loren460 Can you really say that? Because how did the 40% of Asians that are in California schools get in compared to only 5% black students? Affirmative Action ended in California in 96. So what’s more likely here? He probably had a terrible essay or one of the 5% of black kids took his spot?
Also one other things is people really think the Uc system is completely funded by taxes. I’ve been in high level meetings at Uc’s and the operational budget is mostly private money. So fighting a legal battle won’t come at the cost of tax payers. less than 10% of the schools budget was California funded.. I can say that one thing you can add to the argument would be that Uc systems mission is to educate the state of California but it’s accepting more out of state and international students to fill budget so it’s failing it’s mission.
I never knew if you get hired by Google you will become so famous that you will be interviewed by prominent news channels in America you become a celebrity 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰, then why Google fire these intelligent engineers later on
What happened here is even though the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action at college admissions during the summer had passed, colleges are going to continue their same practice of admitting students. Since this high school graduate is Asian and overachieving, he is also competing against other applicants who are just like him. The thing is its not his fault but blame colleges that continue to admitting legacy students.
None of the california schools practice affirmative action. There are thousands of kids who applied with the same stats that he he had and there has to be an odd one out. Admission to schools are not guaranteed so you shouldn't feel entitled to it.
Don't worry these colleges are a joke if you have the capability to do something you are more valuable than a bunch of rich people who are paying their way through society that kid can't be denied he is smart AF and actually talented companies will want him
Shout out to the father!! He's very level headed and I love how he's trying to spark a productive debate on how to fix the college admissions issue. With a father like him, Stanley will be successful regardless of where he ends up!
Nan Zhong for president! Just kidding, but man, he was great in this interview - he broke down all the questions and answered them logically.
Discrimination is why he was rejected. No other reason
hes not brown enough for his grades to count.
As an Asian American, I agree. I think they saw the last name and maybe assumed he could be a Chinese spy.
He said it wasn't a factor in Califonia
@@EdwardsCommentnot white enough and not enough bribery money to get them in like undeserving white kids with parents that pay for them without credentials
Or his essays were terrible and he applied the night before they were due
I wish this teen success in whatever he does! The fact that he can talk to so positive and level headed means he will go far.
University admissions should be transparent. After all, how could students work toward their goal of being admitted to the schools of their choice if the admission requirements are kept secret?
Why go through so much BS to say that he was rejected for being Asian - just say it, he got discriminated bcz of his race ..
We know exactly what's happened to college admissions process and a good thing that affirmative action was removed.
Is the real truth, NO WAY TO DICE THIS.
Maybe colleges aren't impressed when your dad does your homework
Affirmative action has been removed in California for a while. So clearly there is something else. @@karelglasner2673
its already been gone in CA but racist like you will still complain@@karelglasner2673
There should absolutely be feedback. Reasons why a student was not chosen. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Feedback is useful if colleges are honest with their feedback. If laws were in place to enforce feedback, I believe colleges would mostly tailor their feedback to limit their legal liability. They may start giving completely bogus reasons. I understand and agree with your motivations for demanding feedback but I believe ensuring genuine feedback from colleges is more tricky than you imagine.
Why not consider exploring other schools? Instead of dwelling on rejection, it's important to remember that not everything is about an individual. Asian Americans have sometimes advised other communities to move forward from the past, just as they are navigating the changing landscape of Affirmative Action policies. It's not just about one group or changing the system to usurp others, but rather addressing fairness and equality for all. In a diverse educational landscape with over 5,300 institutions, it's a fact that not everyone will be selected. Rejections are a part of life, something we often remind others about. Let's approach these issues with understanding and empathy.
This is indeed CRIME to the country. Address the issue please!
If a lawsuit is needed I would donate and support this lawsuit to get the US back to the right track.
So we need to change America so cry baby bitches, get to complain about how they can't get into the top Elite schools, (fyi He was Accepted into other schools, he just didn't like them). We should make it so they can. Isn't that why you didn't like affirmative action?
A job at Google is a lot more prestigious than a college degree, even an Ivy League degree.
Hell, I'd say to hell with Google, focus 100% on building and growing his startup, RabbitSign.
Google every year hire 10k employees from 1million applicants as tough as ivy admission
Says you
@@superdajiba222 his dad is a manager at google
CA college system is messed up and If you already have a Google job it's a waste of $
People wonder if companies care if you went to Harvard or not. Now they don’t care if you even went to college.
Things are definitely not fair, they are that way on purpose.
.. and through that adversity those that truly shine and are driven will be seen to be more brilliant than any college could hope to improve upon!
More fair then humanity has ever been 🖖🏻
A very smart and well spoken young man! He has a very bright future!
The teen had the final laugh and that’s all that matters. He will eat well for days and enjoy the state of the art facilities. So lucky but well deserved. Another institution saw his worth
I doubt that he is having a good time. For one thing his "colleagues" will be asking how he got that job... and it could only have been by being someone's favorite. People who had to work hard to get where they are don't appreciate that kind of thing and they will make him feel it every day of the week.
@@schmetterling4477 “make him feel it every day of the week?” lol as long as he doesn’t have toxic colleagues and bad work management ,. He’ll just need a right mentor to build up his skills. The traditional path to school is out dated 😬 this kid will be fine :) someone saw something in this person
@@davinxi5926 A person who doesn't like favoritism isn't a toxic colleague. It's the kind of person that you want in your organization. If by "mentor" you mean a person who will promote him because of personal connections, then you are basically just promoting the worst form of organizational management. You will promote one favorite and lose ten honest workers in the process who expect to be treated fairly and who will notice that they never will be.
@@schmetterling4477Everyone knows his story and he will be welcomed with open arms at Google because that is the kind of unique company they are. I will be spending the day at Google tomorrow and I know their culture is one of welcoming and teamwork. My daughter also works there and she will be one of many employees who will be more than happy to have him!
No need to beat around the bush. Bro got rejected because he's Asian with a privileged upbringing.
no proof of that
Exactly! They have that attitude that they have to get it whenever they apply. Colleges want to diversify their student body not have an all Asian students.
The admission process of our colleges and universities are really messed up, Stanley Zhong was obviously racially discriminated during the process; I am glad the affirmative action is removed, but its effect is still lingering and keeping good students from being admitted.
It is NOT removed. It's just like the elections. I don't need to proof there is voter fraud - you need to proof your election integrity is sound. So similarly, they say officially affirmative action is gone and admissions are based on the "wholesomeness" of the student. Diversity, Equality (of outcomes) and Inclusion, DEI, is still reverse racism. Asians bear the brunt of this racism because they have less access to backdoor methods like sports, alumni, donor.
with no proof you said the effects are lingering where ? Also CA banned AA a longtime ago. If you think AA made him not go into the school you are delusional as he has a better app than most asians at those schools .
AFA benefited white women the most.
Every one assumes affirmative action is racially beneficial…. It was actually most beneficial to women…. Plus California banned racially based admissions back in the 90s
not for college admissions @@alexandersinclair
Samething happen to my son at Cal Poly. He had a 4.5 gpa with near perfect scores on the SAT and ACT. Decided to attend community college and later transferred.
Let us get this fixed. Do something!
@@bobyang2304 maybe the asian kids with rich parents in the bay area aren't getting in. I would like to see the acceptance rate of low income asian kids.
As a country, US will degrade, deteriorate into a 3rd world country, if “merit based” is not applied, as US will lose competency to other countries who apply merit based process.
Merit only works if all schools in America are funded the same way but the reality is many schools in poor districts are underfunded which means students aren't getting a decent education. How do you apply merit if students are already on an uneven learning curve compared to their peers living in wealthier districts.
Due to AA some super good kids with gpa of 4 and sat of 1600 are rejected and end up in community colleges. Obviously these kids will do well any condition. Wealthy family and extra tutorial will not get a kids such achievement. This is indeed crime to the country.
@@bobyang2304 Affirmative Action has been long gone in California and Affirmative Action actually benefited White women more than people of color in the 21st century. Also Wealthy family and extra tutorial will not get kids such achievement? How did Stanley went to such a good school and get extra support in a good district without his parents making good money to live there? Tell me how do you do that with no money?
I am 100% certain Stanley (as a highly achieved kid; he also got perfect PSAT score with zero prep) will do VERY well anywhere in any family. He is just smart and diligent. Growing in good financial and supportive family (which he can NOT choose ) become an very negative thing to AOs. This is very hard to understand. It it totally against US constitution and democracy.
@@minxili3317 Yes, AA is everywhere in CA schools. Give you an personal example. In my daughter’s school (a very prestigious middle school), almost all Asian kids were rejected to local good private schools. This includes a girl who published a book in 7 grade, published lots of poets/articles in magazines; win 4 scholastic award in middle school, got multiple California state level PF debate champions and other speech awards, IQ >>140; straight A/A+ grade 1-8 with little effort; won 10+ art award, school ambassador, school government leader; super talent in music with piano gold medal, and playing string in local youth orchestra, etc. Her composed music amazed many teachers. She got rejected in all private high schools she applied for. While many other kids (other race; normal performance) got multiple offers. Among them, an African American kid got offers from all private high schools applied. It just makes NO sense. The country owes the little girl and many other good kids if the system is not fixed. I swear I am telling the truth.
Is there no other news they keep posting this same story. millions of kids every year get 4.0 and millions get rejected
Do you remember several years back the whole college admissions scandal where parents bribed schools to guarantee their kid gets a spot? As you mentioned, there are only so many spots for admission. Space is limited. It is definitely incredibly competitive, and you don't know why he was rejected. He was definitely qualified. He doesn't exactly stand out as an applicant, but got a job offer from Google.
If they make it transparent, I would expect lots of bribes, etc also like what happened years ago that you mentioned. It is likely one reason they make it a black box.
Equally there could be many other potentially successful candidates out there with some coursework, great practical experience but no college degree. Throw it back to the hiring managers who actually need to know what each position will entail and how to assess a candidate without relying on a piece of paper from an "accredited" institution!
“Competitive” lol if he was a person of color he would’ve been easily accepted no doubt about it
YES! Seems like that is still what it takes. Just don't get caught!
The problem exactly is you don’t know why and how he does not stand out.
Stanley would have got into all the schools if he played hoops or played football pretty good even with 1.0 GPA.
Or was a rapper
nice dogwhistle racist@@jusme7120
U forgot the race
You forgot that most of these students and athletes have at least a 3.0 or higher. Check the stats again. Your bigotry has left you behind in knowledge. Keep up!!
@@torig.5864 when i was in high school in SF, the varsity basketball athletes had special classes together, they didnt have to do homework, their books were bought for them, they had extra tutors. id hope they could squeak out a 3.0, but alas, only one of them made it to college sports.
“We regret to inform you” is a hidden , systematic way of eliminating a potential skill . Right to education depending on qualifications and competitiveness has to be free of conspiracies.
I think he was rejected because of Affirmative Action (against Asians) and I truly believe that information such as name, ethnicity, and and sex/gender should not be included in the college application and that acceptance into a university should be based solely on merit.
They got rid of that
The reality is you're not going to get transparency from these college institutions. Each college institution plays the game differently and they aren't going to reveal this to you. This should be a wake up call to parents who assume that getting good grades and doing basic extracurricular activities will get your kid into the top school. Things are way more competitive now and schools are looking for students who will contribute to their campuses not just someone who does the typical path to get admitted to colleges. Metrics are also not a good measure because no human being is the same. This method won't work at all.
Contribute to their campus in what ways? Schools must make their admission requirements known so that prospective applicants can work toward meeting them. As it is now, it's just a guessing game.
@@theotheleo6830 Take part in clubs, extracurricular activities, create a club or organization, and be a future leader in college so they can give back to the college in the future as alumnis by offering jobs to students or donate to colleges. Have a personality and know how to talk. This is part of being a leader. Colleges are not looking for personalities that every student can replicate, you have to be your unique self and you can't fake this. Metrics are impossible to make because we aren't grading students like a homework assignment. They are looking at the student holistically. Every college's definition of holistic is different. How in the world are you going to mold your kid to suit every school's different idea of holistic?
@montaukairr3055 In a sense yes they do prefer oddballs because they are looking for unique personalities and leaders.
@@minxili3317 If these are the requirements, they should be included in their stated admissions policies. Otherwise, as I said earlier, it's just a guessing game. And as far as requiring a unique personality, we're all born unique, so everyone fulfills that requirement. Thus, stating that they're looking for "unique personalities" without specifying the qualities they deem to be unique sounds like code for a hidden meaning. Also, having a personality and knowing how to talk should not be given a higher priority than intelligence and proven scholastic achievement. After all, these are institutions of higher learning, not entertainment venues.
@@theotheleo6830 They're not going to state this lol If they do then everyone will start to give the same responses and the universities will still find different ways to choose their applicants without telling you. You can disagree with how they choose their applicants but this is the reality on how they choose their applicants. Being born unique is not enough for them lol Your definition of being unique is not the same as their definition of unique. This is the reality. If they told you what unique applicants they are looking for then everyone will try to fit that mold. By the end no one will be unique lol College has always been a game and their policies have always been a guessing game. College also use different types of entertainment and activities to recruit different types of students. Just because your kid is only academically focused doesn't mean every kid will only be focused on academics. Some kids like to do both entertainment and academics. Colleges have made buildings to house entertainment like events for clubs, organizations, networking, and jobs. College is not only academics. Entertainment is also a part of it. College has never only viewed themselves as academic institutions only.
Wow! Disqualified because you’re overqualified. 🤦🏻♂️
Google is a company it aims to maximize the return they pay for employee. Therefore they try best to select most competitive candidates. While for undergrad admission college have no incentive to find academic strong candidates as they pay the same tuition. However for PhD admission, it is purely meritocracy as google hiring
Colleges are 💩 these days. Kid is probably way more advanced then what they colleges can offer these days.
Admissions, especially in top colleges, are all random now and they try to guess what race you are by your name or essay now.
Even offers by big techs often can be matter of luck - right interviewer and right questions make all the differences
While Stanley couldn't get into the schools he wanted, meanwhile, CA is offering in-state tuition to Mexico residents who don't even live in our state. Talk about competition.
Did you read that on the Trump news channel? :-)
If he were a different minority, he would have had a full-ride to every single Ivy League. Now, he can succeed in ways that no other average college grad can. Congrats to the teen and his family!
I bet you're referring to black kids.
Nice try. You're racists undertone is clear as written.
😂Or if his daddy, grand daddy, uncles, great grands attended an Ivy League, he'd have been GUARANTEED admittance. Oh,also if his family gave funds to build a lab or gym etc. I think that's more realistic than "if he was another minority".
And what minority would that be? If you're going to act like you have the balls to say it then have the balls to say it!
He doesn’t need to say it. Everyone already knows.
@@dejavu9605 apparently we don't lol
Why beat around the bush? There's no real need for more "transparency", because it's already very clear: college admissions teams exist to "build a student body" in the image they wish to see, and not to ensure fair treatment of candidates based on objective criteria.
And in a way, this would be fine, as long as the admissions process were done on a per-department basis. That way, STEM departments could use only objective criteria in admissions, and the "soft" departments could admit anyone they wish, which means primarily using race/ethnicity and gender/sexual orientation to achieve the balance sought by admissions officers. Applicants would be aware of this going in, and future employers would be aware as well.
Then the real public debate could take place, i.e. who owns the colleges, and who directs the actions and goals of admissions officers in the first place.
The kids dad works at google, let's have some transparency in the hiring process. Without a strong computer science background and hundreds if not thousands of hours of practice coding interview questions, there's very little chance of getting a software engineering job at google, unless someone can pull some strings like daddy who also works there. Anyone in software engineering knows the difficulty of passing those interview questions, that is if you the 0.01% of people who even get a chance to interview.
No google wanted to hire Stanley when he was 13. Also his father has no influence in the process. See the other interview.
While I don't think the father has any influence on his son's job offer at the company, what I will say the father definitely has some insight pertaining to the interview process and what is being tested on. Like many other tech jobs, they can only show you the door. But once you walk through the door, you're 100% entirely on your own during the process.
The reality is Stanley went to a competitive high school and when you go to a competitive high school, college applicants grade you more strictly because they know you had better resources in that school compared to a student who went to a school in a poorer district. Stanley was not good enough in the college institution's eyes because his other peers who went to the same school as he did did better than him. Now if Stanley did not go to a competitive high school, he would've had a higher chance to get accepted in those colleges.
but transparency right ? acting like his father has no influence is braindead.@@bobyang2304
Lol. He cleared GCJ semifinal. Everyone who does it has at least 90% chance clear Google interview. Problems at interviews are much easier.
It is a race issue. I start to see this trend in the mid 90s. My friend’s brother has 4.2 GPA and a near perfect SAT score, but was rejected by UVA. Another person in our school who is of a different race got in with the same major, a 3.6GPA and a much less SAT score.
Still playing victim 😂
We need more sensible people like him! I wish people like him were in politics!
sadly I suspect he is far TOO SENSIBLE to get mired in politics. The only way to get folks like him into politics would be to draft them :(
Sure, you do until he is in politics. There are people, like Andrew Yang and no one voted for him for President or here in NYC (most people including you are probably all talk).
@@dr.migueltorrezedd8651 And you are here talking too. Let's see some positive action from you.
He was rejected because he’s Asian, it’s pretty clear. 🤷♂️
When race triumph merit you soon going to get doctors and engineers who are incompetent in doing their job and graduate from top schools. only people that suffer are the patients and civilians
I can confirm that there is extreme racism happening in our school. Well I have a 1.6 GPA and I was accepted to all the top tier one schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT and I can't help but wonder if it's because I was a gay black man.
Thanks for speaking the true.
You’re lying.
You must be an elite football or basketball player then. lol
The real racism lies in your comment. The UC schools he was rejected from do not use affirmative action. I can guarantee that the person who "took his spot" was another Asian student.
Yea, sure you’re black. 😂
I saw this happen to another girl who made $250k annually from her own business. I think the schools are saying that these people have something good going on, so see where that leads first.
I think transparency is only fair. Even state schools charge a pretty penny, that’s the bare minimum they could do.
Imagine if when buying a 40K car you were given 0 information about it. That wouldn’t fly
I got accepted to UC Davis with a 3.9 GPA back in the ‘90s. It was basically the school that all UC Berkeley rejects went to at the time. Didn’t know that the standards have increased so dramatically. Glad the kid got a job at Google though, which was probably the better outcome.
Uc davis is an amazing school. People are so nice and UC Berkeley is a great school but it seems like people are stressed and depressed there.
By the early 00's UCDavis became the school all UC San Diego rejects went to XD
9 University of California campuses, didn’t apply to the 3 UC campuses where he could have had more of a chance of admission. He probably thought these campuses were beneath him. Computer Science is a highly competitive major, with single digit admission rates at the UCs. He was not realistic enough at least as far as his University of California admission chances is concerned.
@@brad9092Nope, just the truth. He simply estimated his chances too generously.
@@brad9092This is literally what you're supposed to do when you apply for colleges. You should always have safety schools.
This is pretty cut and dry. He didn't stand out from the rest of the students(ethnicity aside) in his bracket. He applied to some of the most impacted school and competitive programs in the country. He even admits that he wasn't shocked by some of the rejections. The cut off for some of the UCs this year was 4.4. Meaning students in his bracket had a GPA higher than his. He didn't have extra curriculars. Just another student. He's competing against people in his bracket. If people aren't informed enough to see that, that's their issue. He has a job at Google with his Dad. He should be happy, instead of him and his father trying to be a victim.
No. Google actually reached to him and wanted to hire him at 13. He is that good in what he likes. Please compare him with all students of all races.
Of course you would think the way you do 😂 They discriminated against his race. If he was black like yourself he would’ve been accepted at more colleges. That is pretty cut and dry. Doesn’t surprise me you are in denial about that. Point is it’s not fair that everyone else gets free handouts just for doing the bare minimum and being a person of color
Yup this is suspicious now with the “movement” already prepped to go. He probably had the google offer with the intent of taking the offer and the dad made him probably sent the applications with essays to purposely sink the chances and set up this “movement”
@bozhiyang2304 The UC system is heavily Asian already and they haven't used affirmative action in decades. Everyone thinks their kid is a genius so they all apply to highly competitive programs and expect admission but they are competing with students just like himself and even better. When did being a coder and having a job offer from Google mean automatic admission? Maybe his application was terrible because he assumed admission was guaranteed
Keep the fight. There would be no America if not for the sacrifices and struggles our the aapi throughout America’s history
This kid will do way better in life than most of the students graduating from the IvyLeague schools.
Let’s call it what it is, he was discriminated against because he was Asian.
The problem with what the father wants is that these colleges will start giving out bogus reasons if there's ever a law along the lines of what the father wants. Think about pretext in employment terminations. Instead of just saying nothing, the colleges will lie through their teeth.
Unfortunately, you make a good point. Was recently turned down for a job after the interview. I know people who did get it, and they were stunned I did not (my qualifications are higher). I insisted on being told why, and got a copy pasta hand wavy answer.
If he was black with those credentials, he would've been accepted to every school he applied for and then some
Thus guy is smart and educated. No lawsuit.
While knowledge and skills is very important, a college degree should not be a mandatory requirement for employment. We need to normalize alternative ways for job training.
My Child was born and raised in CA and Rejected from many UC's. He was on a waiting list for UC Irvine. He had great scores and Hispanic. He ended going out of State. They can only accept so many students in each college. Many of his classmates went to a Jr. College for 2 years then transered to a UC. They all went to excellent public schools in So Cal and also had excellent grades. What makes your student the exception? When I was growing up in the Bay Area, foreigners where coming in buying up houses. Not only did it drive up the realestate prices, making it difficult for the next generation of locals to afford. It was also to establish residency so their children would be accepted to our universities much easier
Conduct a full
Criminal investigation on every admission officer. Audit bsnk records. Bribery? Pull phone records. Corruption must be smashed!!
😂😂😂
Google hires about most people now in days. The issue is staying innovative for more projects, or even then, knowing their methodologies would make for a great team member.
Congratulations to him! 🎉🎉🎉 something similar happened to me when I applied to work remotely for a banking job didn't want to get me even though I have 15 plus years of experience. Then I applied too work for a county job and I got it.
Forget reforming the colleges. It’s hopeless. Better just to boycott them. Colleges need students like this kid much more than he needs college.
The father seems to be illuding to prejudicial treatment of his son? He might want to temper his view with the fact that there are twice as many asians in the world as europeans. So some rejection should probably be expected?!
Weak. This is about the applicant pool for colleges, and others with lesser qualifications were selected over him, because of racial quotas which are illegal. Is that not a legitimate story for you?
We will end up with many many many unqualified doctors and engineers soon if this is not fixed
He is not black enough
😂😂😂😂🤣
Maybe he should have applied to a HBCU since there are over 100 of them.
Or we just forget college all together. It's a waste of time for 90% of career paths. I hire people at my company for who they are, what they know, and what they can do. How or where they learned that knowledge is meaningless to me and frankly, a person who took the initiative to learn in-depth advanced topics on their own outside a structured school setting is substantially more impressive than someone who took on $200k in debt to waste 4 years of their lives memorizing things for tests.
This newscaster is uncharismatic, on the verge of rude. Not great questions, and accusatorial. Perhaps she has a (questionable) degree from one of these universities of higher indoctrination ...
As for the overqualified concern with state schools -- it is common for schools to reject applicants that they feel might be "overqualified" if they sense that the student only applied as a "safety" and has no real intention of attending the school -- so as not impact the schools "yield" rate
Then show it. Be transparent.
Say that X% of high GPA students are rejected because of “Fear of Safety School”.
Because parents of high GPA students want to know why lower GPA students are being admitted.
@@chellichelli346 1. schools get 10's of thousands of applicants .. I'm not sure that they have the resources to respond to each rejected student as to why they got rejected -- there is lots of available date . 2 Schools don't admit students purely by selecting the highest GPA's ...and dont claim to. As a GPA in if itself doesn't mean a whole lot ... what they also look at when looking at a GPA is rigor of course load. i.e one student could have a higher GPA than another simply because they took less challenging courses . They also only tend to mostly judge students GPA against .the GPA's of other students at their school . This kid in the video went to a high achieving HS in Palo Alto -- so he might not have even been top 20% in his class . 3. Also , all the schools he was rejected from were schools that tend to get tons of high achieving applicants with GPS's just as good as his . 4. I see no evidence that he was rejected in favor of lee qualified applicants . 5. He was also a CS major which tends to be one of the most popular majors . There are tons of videos going advice on the details of how the college admissions process tends to work if you are interested . I think what some parents of "High GPA students" don't seem to understand is just how many studnets there are in the US alone with great stats .... every HS in America has a valedictorian and top 10%.....and thats no taking account for all of the high achievers from Asia, Europe , Africa , Europe , Australia who also apply yo these schools,
Ridiculous. Being an asian male hurt him, and that should be illegal. NVM anyway, the kid is already WAY ahead of his peers, will make way more $$$ with no student debt, and won't be subjected to woke nonsense. Big win as I see it.
Unless he has business acumen (very few have that) his "career" will also stall very quickly. One can't compete intellectually against a proper graduate from one of the better schools.
@@schmetterling4477 This guy is extremely talented. He's honestly smarter than most grads will ever be 🤣
This sets an interesting precedent. With recent affirmative action issues, could this be a way for highly qualified Asian students to skip college before joining the “pros”?
Sure, if you want to end up in a hopeless career cul-de-sac. Do you want me to point you to a million "programmers" who don't know the first thing about computer science and software engineering because they didn't take four years to learn CS at a good university? They are all over TH-cam. They can't even tell you the most trivial things about computers and programming and are stuck in dev hell. ;-)
@@schmetterling4477if you are smart enough to get into Google, the fundamentals of CS will be intuitive enough for you to learn yourself with a little bit of study. Knowing the fundamentals alone can lead to a long and productive career, if you have drive and intelligence. More than that is only useful for research level work.
I would actually love to see that happen. Going straight into in-house training programs while getting paid, to learn the same things as they would have learned in engineering departments at universities. Meanwhile the colleges would be left as purveyors of false narratives about "social justice" and nothing else, and their funding would dry up. I kind of like this fantasy.
@@richatlarge462The only people who like that phantasy are the losers who didn't go to university. ;-)
@@schmetterling4477I disagree. For many people, universities have become little more than job training institutions. And people who get useless degrees at universities can still be losers.
Not that it matters to what I wrote, but my background is a university graduate from UC Berkeley.
Shameless, if you people knew anything about the tech industry, you would know how fake and how ridiculous his resume is.
let's all not pretend here that you haven't used a "I know someone" or "hook me up" card, everyone would bite at the chance if given, don't act all humble.
Invested and looking forward to progress and follow up! Appreciate taking up the crusade!
Basically... people who are against favoritism in college will speak out for favoritism in the workplace. What's the supposed difference here? I don't get it. ;-)
A good solution is for Asian people to start their own schools/universities similar to how Jewish people have Yeshiva, etc. African Americans and people of Afro-descent have historical colleges and universities, like Howard and Spelman too. Elon Musk loves to run his mouth but why didn't he hire the kid or better yet write him a letter. Nonetheless, this kid will be fine. I mean how many kids get jobs at Google at 18 (his dad works Google too). Also, he was accepted to 2 schools (why did he put them on his list if he didn't want to go to them at all?). He will be fine since he comes from opportunity. I feel sorry for the kid with the same CV as him who got rejected from everything and has no 6-figure job to fall back on incase he or she doesn't want to go to the schools that accepted him or her (regardless of race, ethnicity and nationality).
It has nothing to do with his race and if another group was on here doing that, like the comment section is now we know you people would have an issue with it. Nonetheless, Affirmative Action has been gutted and legacy admissions are still going strong. This kid is most likely competing with other Asians who have the same CV as him (he is not unique in the Asian community at all considering how some Asian parents push their kids' academics and so on). There is nothing wrong with community college because eventually they can use the experience there to transfer into other large universities, etc. The dad is just being an elitist/brat. Try going to another country and telling them what they should do with their schools. Some of the people that come to the U.S. come here because they couldn't make it in their native country plus the education in the U.S. is easier these days since we are not only math and science based in our schools.
Congrats to the kid though in the end. The lady who is interviewing the father should have known that race does not play apart in admissions regarding state schools in California before the supreme court ruling. This man had to educate the reporter on something she should have known (embarrassing). Also, Affirmative Action will have little impact at all on those type of admissions even with the law changing (people are just bone heads). There are not that many non-Asians on Ivy league campuses not because there are no other kids who are bright but because not enough non-Asians apply even when Affirmative Action was a thing. The people in the comment section are mostly just talking and never watched the videos, which is why the comments sound so clueless (watch before you comment to get an idea of what is going on geez). This is why our country is going downhill, etc. People can't listen or read.
It's disappointing not to be accepted into a college or university. I was rejected by MIT and chose to attend a different school. While you're applying to some of the most prestigious institutions on the planet, remember that admission is not guaranteed solely because you're Asian. Consider applying to other colleges and universities. It's important not to dwell on rejection and avoid using Affirmative Action as an excuse, as it's no longer a factor in college admissions.
he applied to 16
and everyone knows being Asian is actually a disadvantage in this process
I like how he's screaming from the mountains but just shite on community college goers like they are trash.
Get over it! He didn't get in like thousands of other people's kids. There's thousands of colleges in the US if he's so smart he should be able to apply and get excepted anywhere.
This is entitlement at it's finest!
This is what they call, for every no there’s a bigger yes!
Racism. When you grow old kid. You will understand
SpaceX or Tesla would have been more challenging to join than Google
Here is transparency: Colleges are not hiring you to be an engineer for Google. They are not a placeholder for your future employer. They are places of learning. Their goal is to educate people, not to stamp your card so you can get hired at specific companies.
How did he get hired by Google if they're rigorous about degrees? Someone's showing that Google doesn't check copy and paste workmanship. There were several false identification issues in thus report, and a furthering in the deterioration of hiring based off of actual transparency that always existed with acceptance and rejection letters. 16 colleges would have stated why they didn't accept him. 37 (from the tactic being used) would have accepted him without much cleverness in the wording. You can even read in the rejection letters that there is a way to appeal the rejection, but if memory serves correctly, some people use that time to place their identification and credentials along side those who are appealing correctly. It's very damaging not to coexist with the complete totals and assume that stating 16 colleges and a news story will fix corruption.
What this kid and his Dad don't seem to realiz is that elite colleges get tons of applicants with GPA's just as good as his .. way more than that have spaces for . Not to mention that these schools have departmental needs to fill.. i.e a school might take a kid with a 3.8 who wants to major in Philosophy if there is a department need for more philosophy majors over a kid with a 4.0 who plans on majoring in Computer Science ..if there they have tons of Computer Science applicants
HIS DAD WORKS AT GOOGLE THAT CERTAINLY HELPED TOO!
WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE 4.O OVER QUALIFIED WHO APPLIES FROM THE USA AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. SO HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE OR NOR BETTER FROM OTHERS. THIS IS A WASTE OF NEWS STORIES.
Exactly! And many of those applicants are Asian.
nepo baby will be fine, bet his essays were not good for the top tier schools
Have you spoken with the colleges? What are their responses?
Hired by Google. It helps to know someone at Google. Doesn’t get any better than your own dad works there. Go check out his dad’s position at Google then make your conclusion.
Well see sir your son isnt a member of the 13% club. If he was he would be accepted no questions ask qualified or not
I am almost certain that another asain student has the spot you all assume this guy deserves
@@logicandwisdomTHIS!
Cal Poly Ain’t easy to get into. ... did Musk even go to HS ?
From down in Las Vegas, I was blessed to find Oregon Institute of Technology!!
Affirmative action hasn't been done in public universities in California since the 90s. Make more excuses. He should have applied to more schools. There are finite spaces in each school, and even smaller finite spaces for each major. They're not going to fire all the history, English, biology, etc. professors just because extra people applied for computer science majors. Get real.
Why do parents work so hard for so long and produce such great results with no guaranteed outcome? Seems kinda silly to me.
Would have got in free instantly if he was an "oppressed" race and/or gender
UCSD’s cs program is ranked 3 in the nation. Higher than berkeley or standford. He applied for a very impacted major though he had the stats I’d agree him being Asian probably was the cause of his app being rejected.
It likely was that he just didn't stand out from the rest.
@@chaddawsome9302 yeah his stats aren’t really anything new from my other peers here at ucsd not just grades wise but e.c things like hackathons and such
nope you are wrong . ucsd is in CA so AA is a banned . Also look at the asian pop at this school . you cant be this stupid .
But the issue isn't that he was rejected by UCSD alone, rather, it is that he was rejected by sixteen universities, including Cal Poly. His scholastic achievements should have made his application stand out.
UCSD’s CS is not even in the top 10 in the country.
Does the dad work in Google?
Yes
I think the universities should have a score sheet of admission for each student so they would know they weakness or over qualifications.
It had been a standard practice of reverse discrimination in Calif or even all over U.S. against Asian students for years. Most Asian students wouldn't even bother to apply for Ivy league or other universities. They just went to state universities.
The odds are that whoever took his space will probably not graduate, and if they do it'll be with a worthless degree and we will be paying their student loan
A degree in African American transgender studies is very important.
@@MAHAN1755😂😂
I have to believe there is something wrong with the kid or his admissions he submitted. You have excellent grades, excellent SAT scores, and get rejected by a couple schools it maybe an issue, you get rejected by 16 schools everywhere from high end to medium end schools, it may have more to do with the kid than "the system" since it was 16 independent "the systems" who rejected him for whatever reason.
That said, he got a job at Google, that probably will work out better for him than what he would have learned in college.
I know a kid who gets even better GPA, act tests than this kid. He did his volunteering, extra curriculum activities, etc. But no first line school accepted him.
Luckily, he was accepted by Oxford and moved to England. There goes another bright kid.
This is suspicious now with the “movement” already prepped to go. He probably had the google offer with the intent of taking the offer and the dad made him probably sent the applications with essays to purposely sink the chances and set up this “movement”
@@jaad9848you obviously don't have kids off to college. Its a horrible system. If he was a darker skin tone he would have gotten the college he wanted
@@Loren460 Can you really say that? Because how did the 40% of Asians that are in California schools get in compared to only 5% black students? Affirmative Action ended in California in 96. So what’s more likely here? He probably had a terrible essay or one of the 5% of black kids took his spot?
Also one other things is people really think the Uc system is completely funded by taxes. I’ve been in high level meetings at Uc’s and the operational budget is mostly private money. So fighting a legal battle won’t come at the cost of tax payers. less than 10% of the schools budget was California funded.. I can say that one thing you can add to the argument would be that Uc systems mission is to educate the state of California but it’s accepting more out of state and international students to fill budget so it’s failing it’s mission.
Ivy league schools has been discriminated again Chinese for long time. Under the name of Affirmative Action😅😢
Nope, they just want a DIVERSE student body.
Fighting discrimination with discrimination is racist.
I never knew if you get hired by Google you will become so famous that you will be interviewed by prominent news channels in America you become a celebrity 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰, then why Google fire these intelligent engineers later on
What happened here is even though the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action at college admissions during the summer had passed, colleges are going to continue their same practice of admitting students. Since this high school graduate is Asian and overachieving, he is also competing against other applicants who are just like him. The thing is its not his fault but blame colleges that continue to admitting legacy students.
It's done.
Stop letting it live rent free in your minds.
Asian discrimination. Plain and simple.
This is against law, spirit of democracy, US Constitution. This got to be fixed.
The only topic that makes Chinese parents participate politics
Two words: Affirmative Action. Why isn’t anyone saying it?
None of the california schools practice affirmative action. There are thousands of kids who applied with the same stats that he he had and there has to be an odd one out. Admission to schools are not guaranteed so you shouldn't feel entitled to it.
Because UC schools banned AA almost a decade ago. If someone has his spot it's probably another Asian student
Affirmative action
Don't worry these colleges are a joke if you have the capability to do something you are more valuable than a bunch of rich people who are paying their way through society that kid can't be denied he is smart AF and actually talented companies will want him
That achievement discount for being Asian is racist as hell. We shouldn't be judging people based on the color of their skin.
School admission: sorry, there are too many kids that look like your child.
no you didn't...this made me chuckle but quite possibly be true.