The secutor and the scissor were shaped like fish, rounded like fish and having the eyes of fish. And the scissor were armor with scales looking like fish. So the fisherman aganist fish.
+Arsène Lupin No they weren't balanced, infacti sometimes we have situations of two gladiators against one to try and balance up things, but most of it was the experience of the gladiator, a veteran could be very difficult to defeat no matter the class.
+zaco21 I am not an American or English and was brought up with the metric system yet, it is not hard at all to understand inches. Easy approx conversion 1 inch = 2.5cm. Use this and you will have a good idea of the length in cms. Not hard at all.
With knowledge comes intelligence for example if you're 25 years old and is heavily intelligent but you're mind is empty and I mean totally empty, no knowledge of languages or writing you are pretty stupid "for todays standards" but I guess if you're very intelligent you have a better chance and a faster way of learning new things....
Scissor's left hand weapon is super effective for grabbing shields. I don't think you mentioned that. That's why he doesn't have shield, he is meant to counter them.
@@darfish2769 They would try to maximize the use of their weapons since, well, its literally a life and death scenario. But there are multiple theories on how it was used and no real proof, so we can guess but we can never really be sure.
I just read the Gladiators: The World's Most Deadliest Sport and learned all about these I love how well thought the classes were, the fact they balanced the Gladiators like the ones with holed helmets they couldn't see well, so the had to get close, but in their advantage was their body shield and gladius, it's also where I learned Contemptus Mortis. which mean't fearlessness in the face of death. This was a fantastic book and anyone looking to learn more on the gladiators must get this book it's by Fik Meijer.
@@David-ni5hj its True as. Like when retiarius fought against secutor, secutor had less visibility so retiarius would usually keep the net close to the ground and behind him so secutor wouldnt know where the net comes from. And secutor had no edges on his helmet or shield so the net would be less likely to stick on him. Balance..
My understanding of gladiators is that the more armor they had, the shorter their weapon was. So one guy had full armor and big shield and a little itty bitty dagger and the guy with the long trident and net had almost no armor. Then there were some in between. I guess I was wrong about that.
@Baxi Tabaxi My Systems Design teacher worked on Gladius. As the Xbox version was one of my favorite games of all time, I was beyond thrilled when I found that out. Such a gem of a game. 🙂
Trax -> from Greek "Thrax" = "a Thracian" Murmillo -> ? I have not yet been able to discover the literal meaning of this word; I've found that it comes from the Greek word "Mymillon", but I have no idea what that means, except that it may come from the Greek word "Myrmiddon", which would kind of make sense given their equipment. Retiarius -> Latin = "man with a net" Secutor -> Latin = "chaser" Hoplomachus -> from Greek "Hoplomachos" = "fighter (battler) with a Hoplon (shield used by Hoplites)" Scissor -> Latin = "slicer" (certainly sounds deadly!) Provocator -> Latin = "challenger" Dimachaerus -> from Greek "Dimachairos" = "man with two swords" (by the way, "machaira" refers to a short sword) Thank you, Metatron! Just thought I'd fill in a few gaps.
Murmillo - From Ancient Greek μόρμυλος ("elephantsnout fish"), a Nilotic fish represented in hieroglyphics and adopted for the helmet crests of the mirmillones.
Apparently Murmillo comes from Murma, a certain type of fish that was caught using nets. That's because he was often used against Retiarius. But I appreciate the speculation with Myrmidon because that was my first ever online username
First of all, nice shirt! I used to have a book when I was a kid called "A Visitor's Guide to Ancient Rome" and it had an section on gladiators and the Colosseum. There was a part where they listed and described many of the common gladiator classes. This video made for a great trip down memory lane.
It is almost like you just pitched an idea for a Gladiator game. If done in a similar fashion to Kingdom Come, but focused solely on combat in arena, it might be a very interesting experience.
kids discussing the gladiators they support: Cheater! You picked the gladiator that counters mine, no fair! I'm picking last next time! p.s. Also, it feels like small eye holes are a balance mechanic not to make defensive classes Overpowered. p.s. 2 "Colloseum: Road to freedom" nostalgia.
Roma invicta I know this was over a year ago, but it actually doesn't hurt nearly as much. A small cut doesn't sever the nerve completely, therefore is still slightly intact to send pain through the body. That, along with adrenaline pumping, leaves the body very able to sustain far more punishment. Combining these two with training and you've got yourself someone who can shrug of pain almost entirely. Over 30 years of martial arts experience and I have been cut clean to the bone several times during training as well as competitions. It sounds far worse than it is. Cheers.
The Provocatores are a variant of the Hastatus Legionary class of the manipular system. Hastati had a scutum, helmet a pectoral (small square/rectangular plate of bronze on the chest) and one greave on the left leg. Originally the Hastati are said to have used the Hasta lance as main weapon but switched to pilum & gladius in later times, but when exactly is not clear to me. One source says they changed weaponry and tactics after the Gallic invasion of 390BC(?) others figure it was after or during the Samnite wars. Do you know anything about that great Metatron?
More like Water vs. Poison. If one gladiator type would have a clear advantage over another type, the fight would be boring, so they had to make sure only balanced types fight against each other.
Great vid, would love to know more about the rarer classes. It reminds me I saw a documentary a while ago about this very subject and it mentioned a few additional things. It seems it is thought the reason most gladiators possesed good protection to the head, arms and legs but not the torso was that the public prefered to see quick and bloody deaths rather than drawn out maiming. Also in regards to the Retiarius it was also mentioned that most gladiators were not allowed to actively retreat from their opponent, only the Retirarius was allowed to use this tactic and thus make full usage of their lightly armoured nature and to 'bait' the opponent to keep with the fisherman theme.
Given the fact they were divided in classes, were they allowed to grab equipment either dropped by or from a fallen opponent in the case multiple fighters were in stage at the same time? Or did they have to stick to their designed weaponry and armor? Great video once again, thank you!
If it's during a battle yes, but you don't keep it if you won. So let's say during a fight a gladiator drops his sword, then the other gladiator could pick it up and kill the other with it, but would have to give it back if he won at the end of the battle.
the "ludi gladiatori" were more similar to sport matches than real(istic) battles. There were many rules that the gladiators had to follow. We have no sources telling us if "steal" equipment was allowed or not, but we know that even the attack and defence pattern were established for each class; and we know that there were referees inside the arena. We also know the Kill the opponent was not the only thing that did matter, the way they did was important too. We can assume, I suppose, that pick up someone else weapon would have be seen as cheating and not allowed.
After seen this video i subbed too, and if you don't against the idea i catch up the conntact with you. I'm a gladiator reenactor from hungary and we show nearly the al kind of gladiators you talk about in the 3 video. Maybe you know my ludus- Familia Gladiatoria Pannonica.
metatron i am afraid you are wrong in a thing. those weights on the net are something needed to fish, they were not an alteration for the games. those nets are the kind that you keep casting and retrieving them. you throw it in water with a twirling motion so it will be kept open both in air but in the water as well by the weights. without those weights you won't catch shit!
Thank you very much for showing us pictures for most of the video. Sometimes you show yourself for the majority of the video and it becomes hard to visualise as you are speaking. This is good though 👏👏❤️
A question here if you have the time and intrest. "There are a lot of complaints about half-armour in fantasy styles and questions about bikini armour and so on. But, suppose you have limited funds. How would what kind of priorities would you make. What would you invest in first? What I am really wondering is if it, for example makes sence to only protect one arm with plate.
In archeological studies, it has been found that at least 80% of the ancient remains of fighters in battlegrounds had some sort of damage to the skull. So I would go for a helmet first.
Alright, thankyou. But, (just because there may be buts), while any one born in this century would buy a helmet, getting your genitalia scewered insted...would it really be preffered in ancient or medieval times? Still in defence of the chainmail bikini. Although I have wondered why in some movies the actors remove their helmets. I guess if they are officers yes and need full vision. But how is it in a duel? Helm off or on? Happy new year, btw! :)
I have been watching your videos for awhile and I really seem to enjoy them, I subbed and tapped that notification bell to see more of your upcoming videos good sir c:
Well not completly true.. Secutors had poor visibility due to the helmet being shaped wierdly and having that extra protection retiarius would keep his net close to the ground and behind him to make sure secutor wouldnt know where the net came from (some times putting the net on the ground and get secutor to step on it and pull the net right under him causing him to fall) But. BUT there is a completly stupid and idiotic "class" Andabata they would fight with helmets that had no eyeholes In them (blind fighting)
"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."
I enjoyed your video very much. Thanks for making it. Apart from your impressive knowledge about gladiators, I think you're a good presenter. Hope you make more videos like this.
I'm quite certain that many of these classes evolved as direct result of different sponsors competing against each other. Lucius the Fish Merchant has sponsored a school training retiarii and secutori and Marcus the Horse Trader sponsors a school training diplomachii and bets big money on his gladiator being being better.
The Trax is holding the sica the wrong way, unless that's how he means to stab. The blade was sharpened along the curve, like the opposite of a katana or sabre.
MR1shank Got anything better to say? www.wulflund.com/img/goods/en/medium/sica_thracian_sword_dagger_b.jpg The way it's held at around 2:45, you could stab with it, sure, but that's not the point. It's a cut and pull weapon. If you'd cut the way it's held in the picture, most of the upper part of the blade (which is where most of the force is focused) would not even come into contact with whoever you're trying to hit since the curve is so drastic at that point.
Now I know how you know so much storycall stuff. You where there, in the middle ages, in Japan, in Rome, HOL SHIT. And I know it because of your One Piece shirt, the show is being made since B.C
so like. was this in effect the same as modern day wrestling? where the objective is to "look" like you're fighting but in reality you're missing or targeting armor on purpose to make it look good for the crowd? or did they actually fight to the death. and actually try to murder one another. because ive heard conflicting information saying its both.
Pretty much both. The fights were real and they did try to defeat their opponents. However, they usually didn't go for killing blows and they wouldn't kill the opponent after he'd been defeated. Most fights ended with the opponent downed from his injuries, but it did happen that they either died or weren't properly hit at all.
@@cadunkus no, Greeks are part of their ethnic group Hellenes, same as Thracians (including Dacians even if they got influenced because Dacia was Scythian before) Macedonians Epirotes Phrygians Paeonians Lydians and every Anatolian peoples (except Hettites and Kaškians )and Thessalians. These people have a common ancestor, the Pelasgians which they builded civilizations based on the Pelasgian one.
Weren't gladiators basically like movie starts/entertainment artists are to us? I mean, lots of people volunteered to be gladiators, and really good ones gained huge amounts of popularity and fans.
Alright, kinda late I know. Gladiators were generally slaves, it occured very rarely that anyone would choose become a gladiator since it would kill you at some point
Alastor also late, but further elaborating on what you said. Depending on the standing emperor, it was a ‘movie star’ role and had a good number of volunteers. Then with other emperors it was a death trap with no hope of living through 2 fights.
were there ever leftie gladiators and if so were they allowed to use their left hand or did they have to switch to their right hand and learn with that
Hey Metatron! I really dig your videos and this one actually told me more about gladiators than I ever knew before! Awesome job you're doing mate. Oh, by the way, can you tell me, what's the sword you hold in the beginning of the video? It looks really amazing!
Very good video. The Retiarius must be the class that died most.... The trident is a very bad weapon to kill people due this 3 pointy spikes. One single point is the best for penetration purposes (no pun intended). Also he has almost no protection comparing to the others.
RyuFireheart Your point and logic are very sound, but still for some reasons the Retiarius was the one that would fight against two (secutor) so it must have been a pretty strong one, probably because of the net.
RyuFireheart Actually Retiarius were the most feared classes and the one considered the strongest, the protection were used to reduce differences in power between the classes. The trident does his job if we look at the skeletons of gladiators.
Metatron Maybe the Retiarius was a skilled fighter so he got the worst equipment to fight against 2 less experienced fighters as a way to balance things. It also seems like the Retiarius was meant to represent the civilian (fisherman) fighting agaist an invading army (well... 2 man with decent equipment). Maybe people liked this role playing stuff alot
RyuFireheart It's true that a trident wouldn't penetrate as far but it would still be deadly. I'd be more concerned with the extra weight having 3 points would add. It also looks like it would get stuck quite easily but given it has so much range and Retiarius has 2 more weapons this could be used to his advantage.
RyuFireheart The trident looks pretty effective to me and I wouldn't be surprised if it would go through padded leather or even mail, but I would definitly prefer a shield over a net. I have some problems imagining that it could be employed effectivly especially when it hits the outstreched arm, but due to the success of the class I guess it had to be (with alot of practice).
I know this is a bit late but I wanted to inform you mighty lord of a pretty well done Gladiator game for the ps2 I once had but was sold by a friend i let borrow which is a really messed up thing to do so i stabbed his hand with a pencil. Anyway it was called Colosseum road to freedom. I recommend you look at it mighty lord :) It was a favorite of mine and rather nicely done.
I remember seeing some video where someone was extolling a vegan diet because he found out that gladiators, the “original ultimate warriors”, as he said, mainly ate their veggies. On the flip side, Tasting History had a video which described the bacon Gatorade they fed the armies with. Now, this may be just me.. but I think if I was the emperor, I would feed my soldiers better than my entertainment death slaves.
Hi Metatron good video as always ! Glad you talk about one of my favorite topic. It's a shame that gladiators are so often poorly depicted in movie etc...
I speak contemporary, (modern) Greek and interestingly enough when I read the name of the final gladiatorial combatant named Dimachaerus I hear: Dio/Duo - two Machi / Maxi - battle/ action chaeri/ xairi - hands upon joining the terms it strings together such as: two battle hands which mimics their combat style of dual blade all out onslaught. pretty cool dude edit: I fixed some repetitious words
The Retiarius would also fight the Murmillo. One would be heavy but slower and the other lighter and faster. The net would catch on the helm decorated with marine figures to symbolize a fisherman catching a fish. The Secutor translated to seeker, so they were more of a mid-size build who would focus on cardio exercise to chase opponents. Scissor was likely pronounced more like 'skizzor' in classic latin.
Samnis - spear or/and gladius, big oval or rectangular shield, 1 or 2 greave(s), little breast plate, open plumed helmet, his face was free. His equipment was always ornate. Samnis battled usually against murmillo or trax or another samnis. Samnis is in the same category like hoplomachus and secutor a light or medium gladiator always in beautiful ornate equipment. Gallus - like the murmillo. Gallus is a heavy gladiator type with Gaulish style murmillo equipment Laquearius - like the retiarius but he used lasso instead of net. Andabates - wored a closed helmet, saw nothing, fought blindly always again an another andabates. Eques - horse, little round shield, spear and cavalry sword, simple helmet, chain mail, wored a bandage on his better arm Sagittarius fought from range with a bow Bustuarius - gladius graecus = greek sword, little hoplite round shield, and nothing else. Busturius fought only against an another Bustuarius Cataphractarius - was completely covered in scale armor, and his horse too, did not carry shield. He used long lance and cavalry sword, a very expensive heavy cavalry gladiator - like a knight - fought against all other - except andabates, bustuarius, provocator - horse and foot gladiator types. Essedarius - war chariot fighter, the most expensive - and therefore rare - gladiator type, with many weapon, bow and/or heavy spear and sword. He worn celtic style armour and helmet, often ornate. Essedarius fought against all other - except andabates, bustuarius, provocator - gladiator types.
The second sword down from the top has its hilt on backwards ??? The video was great though. First time in forever I heard anyone know what they where talking about. It was awesome to see the some of the classes great the recognition they deserved. Always a fan of the Murmillo and the Roman Centurion...
Very impressive, signor. With respect, perhaps an augmented update is in order since I believe there are at least half a dozen other types of arena fighters (like the *laquearius* - basically identical to the retiarius but fighting with a lasso in one hand rather than a fish net). 🤓
The secutor and the scissor were shaped like fish, rounded like fish and having the eyes of fish. And the scissor were armor with scales looking like fish.
So the fisherman aganist fish.
Andreas Jensen True! Also the scissor's crescent-shaped tool is reminiscent of a fish's tail
Thats a lot of fish
terror from the deep!
Well shit!
Theres always a bigger fish
What, no mage class for gladiators?
MrDUneven ahahahahh xD nope, sorry xD
+Metatron should have been a chemical warfare class that throws frog slime at his opponentor would that resemble a druid
+Metatron or one that summons minions of Plouton form the underworld as a warlock
+MrDUneven I'm sure there was some autist convinced he was a mage at some point in gladiatorial history
+MrDUneven
they were too unbalanced that's why they got removed...
+Arsène Lupin No they weren't balanced, infacti sometimes we have situations of two gladiators against one to try and balance up things, but most of it was the experience of the gladiator, a veteran could be very difficult to defeat no matter the class.
+zaco21 americans aren't the only one that ones that use metric, Burma and liberia do too.
+Metatron Do you know of any movies about gladiator battles?
+zaco21 I am not an American or English and was brought up with the metric system yet, it is not hard at all to understand inches.
Easy approx conversion 1 inch = 2.5cm. Use this and you will have a good idea of the length in cms. Not hard at all.
+Spuds McHaggis 2.52 cm actually
treyspurge
No it is actually 2.54 cms. That is why I said an easy approx conversion and not an exact conversion.
Trax 2:41
Murmillo 5:24
Retiarius 8:15
Secutor 10:00
Hoplomachus 12:59
Scissor 14:51
Provocator 17:35
Dimachaerus 20:30
Ohh yes I too like
Trax
Murmillo
BBC News
Follower
Hoplomachus
Scissor
Challenger
Naga
Don't I worry I like those gladiators Google translator
BBC News is my favorite gladiator
Ah, my favorite gladiator class, Damascus
Ty
Danke :D
This man needs more subs, he is one of the most intelligent people I've seen
+Darkheart Productions Consider it done XD
knowledge and intelligence are two different thinks.
Nice profile pic, where'd you get it?
Knowledgeable*
With knowledge comes intelligence for example if you're 25 years old and is heavily intelligent but you're mind is empty and I mean totally empty, no knowledge of languages or writing you are pretty stupid "for todays standards" but I guess if you're very intelligent you have a better chance and a faster way of learning new things....
Scissor's left hand weapon is super effective for grabbing shields. I don't think you mentioned that. That's why he doesn't have shield, he is meant to counter them.
Boodgemeister there is no "classes" bro
Theres actually no real proof of how it was used
Thought the same thing the second I saw that hook
The thing is, the retiarii don't use shields, only nets
@@darfish2769 They would try to maximize the use of their weapons since, well, its literally a life and death scenario. But there are multiple theories on how it was used and no real proof, so we can guess but we can never really be sure.
I just read the Gladiators: The World's Most Deadliest Sport and learned all about these I love how well thought the classes were, the fact they balanced the Gladiators like the ones with holed helmets they couldn't see well, so the had to get close, but in their advantage was their body shield and gladius, it's also where I learned Contemptus Mortis. which mean't fearlessness in the face of death. This was a fantastic book and anyone looking to learn more on the gladiators must get this book it's by Fik Meijer.
I also loved learning about Claudius and his role in the hunting games.
"hey balanced the Gladiators like the ones with holed helmets they couldn't see well" not true
@@David-ni5hj its True as. Like when retiarius fought against secutor, secutor had less visibility so retiarius would usually keep the net close to the ground and behind him so secutor wouldnt know where the net comes from. And secutor had no edges on his helmet or shield so the net would be less likely to stick on him. Balance..
The first game to have a balance system: the Gladiatorial Games.
My understanding of gladiators is that the more armor they had, the shorter their weapon was. So one guy had full armor and big shield and a little itty bitty dagger and the guy with the long trident and net had almost no armor. Then there were some in between. I guess I was wrong about that.
It's kind of like that tho
Yep, game design and balance 101 really XD
So with all these weaknesses and counters between gladiator classes, you're telling me we could put together a Pokemon-style Gladiator game
@My last 4 Brain cellsYESSSSSSS! ( M.Bison meme) lol
@Baxi Tabaxi
Well what’s it called?
@Baxi Tabaxi My Systems Design teacher worked on Gladius. As the Xbox version was one of my favorite games of all time, I was beyond thrilled when I found that out. Such a gem of a game. 🙂
Someone already mentioned it, but it (Gladius) exists, and it’s glorious. 🙂
Yeezs
Trax -> from Greek "Thrax" = "a Thracian"
Murmillo -> ? I have not yet been able to discover the literal meaning of this word; I've found that it comes from the Greek word "Mymillon", but I have no idea what that means, except that it may come from the Greek word "Myrmiddon", which would kind of make sense given their equipment.
Retiarius -> Latin = "man with a net"
Secutor -> Latin = "chaser"
Hoplomachus -> from Greek "Hoplomachos" = "fighter (battler) with a Hoplon (shield used by Hoplites)"
Scissor -> Latin = "slicer" (certainly sounds deadly!)
Provocator -> Latin = "challenger"
Dimachaerus -> from Greek "Dimachairos" = "man with two swords" (by the way, "machaira" refers to a short sword)
Thank you, Metatron! Just thought I'd fill in a few gaps.
Murmillo - From Ancient Greek μόρμυλος ("elephantsnout fish"), a Nilotic fish represented in hieroglyphics and adopted for the helmet crests of the mirmillones.
Apparently Murmillo comes from Murma, a certain type of fish that was caught using nets.
That's because he was often used against Retiarius.
But I appreciate the speculation with Myrmidon because that was my first ever online username
The forums are calling for nerf!
very much off topic regarding your comment but his one piece shirt is freaking awesome amiright
First of all, nice shirt!
I used to have a book when I was a kid called "A Visitor's Guide to Ancient Rome" and it had an section on gladiators and the Colosseum. There was a part where they listed and described many of the common gladiator classes. This video made for a great trip down memory lane.
#BringBackTheColosseum
Check out M1 Medieval fights.
NeonAstral
#bringBackLethalColosseum
Just.. No
Or at least make a good video game about gladiator fights.
Vtel 'Zolam fuck human rights, moar Bloodsport, moar slaves!
the scissor looks like an ancient roman big daddy from bio shock.
xD It does!
God this comment is fucked
I was looking for this comment. Haha I thought exactly the same thing.
"Secutor" means chaser. Do you think this is were we get the word persecutor?
+Yung Gabs as Italian , Persecutore comes from Secutore (chaser) . so yes :)
Nearly definitely I always think that as I hear the word and it makes perfect sense to me.
Maybe pursuer
In Spanish we have "seguidor"
Yung Gabs Well every word, with a few exceptions, with a Latin sounding piece is most likely of Latin origin.
no wonder why the gladiator from for honor loves toes
RepHard Holo, gimme dem toes!
He likes them toes.
Yummy
*starts video holding a sword like he does it everyday*
Well I found the bad ass part of TH-cam again
+Spooked Rabbit He does hold swords everyday lmao.
It is almost like you just pitched an idea for a Gladiator game.
If done in a similar fashion to Kingdom Come, but focused solely on combat in arena, it might be a very interesting experience.
You may try Road to Freedom for something similar to that. It is old but has a very complex combat style and a very steep learning curve.
+BlackBunik Arena Rex, by Osprey Games I believe
Bit of a late reply lol but for honor is pretty much the exact game you suggested but with a few more classes and different factions
Chivalry Medieval Warfare - battlegrounds map
We already have examples such as Colosseum : Road To Freedom, Gladiator Begins, Gladiux and We Who Are About To Die
No gladiator with 2 shields? xD
Well you can find one in DKS2.
+jay roush more like every souls game
+Adolf Hitler yeah but in DKS2 they have those twin shields you could power stance.
+jay roush Those we're op.
Dwarven Testudo XD
kids discussing the gladiators they support:
Cheater!
You picked the gladiator that counters mine, no fair!
I'm picking last next time!
p.s.
Also, it feels like small eye holes are a balance mechanic not to make defensive classes Overpowered.
p.s. 2
"Colloseum: Road to freedom" nostalgia.
I DEMAND A MOBA WITH GLADIATORS RIGHT NOW
+George Radu YES!!!!
George Radu !!!!SEY
Broken Fixes reality EY!!!!S
OOOOOOH! I WANT!
George Radu Fuck mobas
I have been looking for a good historical channel who covered all the ages I loved. I'm very happy to have found you.
This video is amazing, very interesting
Diegomolinams98 Thank you so much I am glad you like it ^^
Love your channel. Impressed with your English. I learned to speak Spanish at age forty. Never to late to learn.
Man I couldn't imagine being stabbed by a sword or even a slash when I cut my finger I can't handle it lol
Roma invicta
I know this was over a year ago, but it actually doesn't hurt nearly as much. A small cut doesn't sever the nerve completely, therefore is still slightly intact to send pain through the body. That, along with adrenaline pumping, leaves the body very able to sustain far more punishment. Combining these two with training and you've got yourself someone who can shrug of pain almost entirely.
Over 30 years of martial arts experience and I have been cut clean to the bone several times during training as well as competitions. It sounds far worse than it is.
Cheers.
thanks for your insight you make a good point
Wait what? what kind of martial arts you trying of? modern day gladiator?
I'd imagine HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) or a similar martial art involving real weapons.
Same
I really liked how you packed a *lot* of information clearly and concisely. Thanks so much for putting this together.
I have to admit, I would love to see Gladiator combat back when the Colosseum was first built.....
Very Well Explained 10\10 Just subbed
+Claudio Cunha Thank you very much indeed :D
I would say gladiators were more of a TV show for ancient rome.
Or maybe something like a youtube lets play.
I’d say more like a livestream event.
Like MMA fight
The Provocatores are a variant of the Hastatus Legionary class of the manipular system. Hastati had a scutum, helmet a pectoral (small square/rectangular plate of bronze on the chest) and one greave on the left leg. Originally the Hastati are said to have used the Hasta lance as main weapon but switched to pilum & gladius in later times, but when exactly is not clear to me. One source says they changed weaponry and tactics after the Gallic invasion of 390BC(?) others figure it was after or during the Samnite wars. Do you know anything about that great Metatron?
very informative
b33lze6u6 Glad you think so :D thanks for watching ^^
I love your videos! Dont stop, you're amazing, I hope your channel picks up soon
Rebypox Thank you so much :D
1:56 so they were like Pokemon?
Water vs fire type, Plant vs Water type...
Yes?
More like Water vs. Poison.
If one gladiator type would have a clear advantage over another type, the fight would be boring, so they had to make sure only balanced types fight against each other.
No
Idk, not that simple
Great vid, would love to know more about the rarer classes. It reminds me I saw a documentary a while ago about this very subject and it mentioned a few additional things. It seems it is thought the reason most gladiators possesed good protection to the head, arms and legs but not the torso was that the public prefered to see quick and bloody deaths rather than drawn out maiming. Also in regards to the Retiarius it was also mentioned that most gladiators were not allowed to actively retreat from their opponent, only the Retirarius was allowed to use this tactic and thus make full usage of their lightly armoured nature and to 'bait' the opponent to keep with the fisherman theme.
Isn't the first armor set for the gladiator in For Honor called retiarius?
For you gamers
Have watched this video a number of times because I find it very interesting. Great video 👍🏻.
Given the fact they were divided in classes, were they allowed to grab equipment either dropped by or from a fallen opponent in the case multiple fighters were in stage at the same time? Or did they have to stick to their designed weaponry and armor?
Great video once again, thank you!
Well, it's a battle, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to do that.
If it's during a battle yes, but you don't keep it if you won. So let's say during a fight a gladiator drops his sword, then the other gladiator could pick it up and kill the other with it, but would have to give it back if he won at the end of the battle.
the "ludi gladiatori" were more similar to sport matches than real(istic) battles. There were many rules that the gladiators had to follow. We have no sources telling us if "steal" equipment was allowed or not, but we know that even the attack and defence pattern were established for each class; and we know that there were referees inside the arena. We also know the Kill the opponent was not the only thing that did matter, the way they did was important too. We can assume, I suppose, that pick up someone else weapon would have be seen as cheating and not allowed.
Diego Tiberi Excellent answer, thank you very much!
Yes, the Romans love when it gets more bloody
This video was perfectly executed. Good job , Metatron!
Intelligent, well-researched commentary, a reproduction of Andúril, and a One Piece shirt.
I wish I was this man,
Nice vid just subbed
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After seen this video i subbed too, and if you don't against the idea i catch up the conntact with you. I'm a gladiator reenactor from hungary and we show nearly the al kind of gladiators you talk about in the 3 video. Maybe you know my ludus- Familia Gladiatoria Pannonica.
PvtEnt That sounds very cool ^^
metatron i am afraid you are wrong in a thing. those weights on the net are something needed to fish, they were not an alteration for the games. those nets are the kind that you keep casting and retrieving them. you throw it in water with a twirling motion so it will be kept open both in air but in the water as well by the weights. without those weights you won't catch shit!
He needs 453452354265753435 subs
Thank you very much for showing us pictures for most of the video. Sometimes you show yourself for the majority of the video and it becomes hard to visualise as you are speaking. This is good though 👏👏❤️
A question here if you have the time and intrest. "There are a lot of complaints about half-armour in fantasy styles and questions about bikini armour and so on. But, suppose you have limited funds. How would what kind of priorities would you make. What would you invest in first? What I am really wondering is if it, for example makes sence to only protect one arm with plate.
Definitely a helmet and thick clothing. This is what happened historically to soldiers who couldn't afford "good armour" so to speak.
In archeological studies, it has been found that at least 80% of the ancient remains of fighters in battlegrounds had some sort of damage to the skull. So I would go for a helmet first.
Alright, thankyou. But, (just because there may be buts), while any one born in this century would buy a helmet, getting your genitalia scewered insted...would it really be preffered in ancient or medieval times? Still in defence of the chainmail bikini.
Although I have wondered why in some movies the actors remove their helmets. I guess if they are officers yes and need full vision. But how is it in a duel? Helm off or on?
Happy new year, btw! :)
I would probably pick helmet first, then arm protection (gloves), then the rest of the armor.
I'd invest my money on a helmet and then pick up something flat and hard and use it as a makeshift shield...
Gladiator classes=different kinds of sports nowadays. Makes perfect sense to me. I'm so happy to have acquired this knowledge. Gratitude.
This video should be a "must to watch" before start watching Spartacus... haha :v
Man your videos are great. It's a lot of interesting stuff. thumbs up!!
Query - Would a Gladiator choose a class or be given it by trainers? Also would they switch you stay that class for ever?
very interesting and educated video.
Now I understand more about gladiators.
Thanks for your effort and dedication!
Love from Taiwan, Asia.
Listening to this while playing the gladiator in for honor
Got mvp every time ;)
This video was very very helpful when searching for specific gladiator pictures for my D&D fighter. Thank you. :D
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"AUT NON..."
I have been watching your videos for awhile and I really seem to enjoy them, I subbed and tapped that notification bell to see more of your upcoming videos good sir c:
The Gladiatorial Classes were not necessarily balanced. Some of them were purely designed for entertainment, like the Retiarius Class.
Well not completly true.. Secutors had poor visibility due to the helmet being shaped wierdly and having that extra protection retiarius would keep his net close to the ground and behind him to make sure secutor wouldnt know where the net came from (some times putting the net on the ground and get secutor to step on it and pull the net right under him causing him to fall)
But. BUT there is a completly stupid and idiotic "class" Andabata they would fight with helmets that had no eyeholes In them (blind fighting)
Ah,such a thick accent.You have improved greatly.
"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."
I enjoyed your video very much. Thanks for making it.
Apart from your impressive knowledge about gladiators, I think you're a good presenter. Hope you make more videos like this.
I'm quite certain that many of these classes evolved as direct result of different sponsors competing against each other. Lucius the Fish Merchant has sponsored a school training retiarii and secutori and Marcus the Horse Trader sponsors a school training diplomachii and bets big money on his gladiator being being better.
+1 for the more in depth video concerning gladiator classification and match pairing. I would love to see that.
The Trax is holding the sica the wrong way, unless that's how he means to stab. The blade was sharpened along the curve, like the opposite of a katana or sabre.
+Ruser nope
MR1shank Got anything better to say?
www.wulflund.com/img/goods/en/medium/sica_thracian_sword_dagger_b.jpg
The way it's held at around 2:45, you could stab with it, sure, but that's not the point. It's a cut and pull weapon. If you'd cut the way it's held in the picture, most of the upper part of the blade (which is where most of the force is focused) would not even come into contact with whoever you're trying to hit since the curve is so drastic at that point.
Thracian/dacian/illyrian sicas were sharpened on the inside of the blade, like a sickle or schyte.
Nostalgic. Going back and watching all of these.
Now I know how you know so much storycall stuff. You where there, in the middle ages, in Japan, in Rome, HOL SHIT.
And I know it because of your One Piece shirt, the show is being made since B.C
+PaiMeBuffaBuff #HsoGameplays ahahahahahahaahhha xD xDthis comment was great xD
Scissor is one of those meme setups u decide to run that actually end up working really well
Lol mordhau
Who remembers the game 'Colosseum: Road to Freedom'?
Man I must say it’s impressive the amount of knowledge you know about this subject.
Just gonna mention the one piece shirt
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so like. was this in effect the same as modern day wrestling? where the objective is to "look" like you're fighting but in reality you're missing or targeting armor on purpose to make it look good for the crowd? or did they actually fight to the death. and actually try to murder one another. because ive heard conflicting information saying its both.
Pretty much both. The fights were real and they did try to defeat their opponents. However, they usually didn't go for killing blows and they wouldn't kill the opponent after he'd been defeated. Most fights ended with the opponent downed from his injuries, but it did happen that they either died or weren't properly hit at all.
Weren't Murmillos supposed to portray legionnaries, and they fought Trax as a reconstruction of Rome conquering Greece?
Trax represented the Tracians, a different enemy of Rome.
@@cadunkus no, Greeks are part of their ethnic group Hellenes, same as Thracians (including Dacians even if they got influenced because Dacia was Scythian before) Macedonians Epirotes Phrygians Paeonians Lydians and every Anatolian peoples (except Hettites and Kaškians )and Thessalians.
These people have a common ancestor, the Pelasgians which they builded civilizations based on the Pelasgian one.
A very informative video indeed. I only recently subscribed, but I have to say the content on this channel is absolutely superb.
Weren't gladiators basically like movie starts/entertainment artists are to us? I mean, lots of people volunteered to be gladiators, and really good ones gained huge amounts of popularity and fans.
Alright, kinda late I know. Gladiators were generally slaves, it occured very rarely that anyone would choose become a gladiator since it would kill you at some point
Alastor also late, but further elaborating on what you said. Depending on the standing emperor, it was a ‘movie star’ role and had a good number of volunteers. Then with other emperors it was a death trap with no hope of living through 2 fights.
Great video! Thanks for creating quality content like this!
cool video thank you
were there ever leftie gladiators and if so were they allowed to use their left hand or did they have to switch to their right hand and learn with that
Hey Metatron!
I really dig your videos and this one actually told me more about gladiators than I ever knew before! Awesome job you're doing mate.
Oh, by the way, can you tell me, what's the sword you hold in the beginning of the video? It looks really amazing!
+Nightingale33 Hey there, thank you very much for watching I am glad you like my content. That sword is Anduril, from Lord of the rings. ;)
Lol, at the beginning of the video I was like, what?, he's holding Anduril while talking about gladiators?
Nice muscle bro. I love your videos and love Roman history!
Very good video.
The Retiarius must be the class that died most.... The trident is a very bad weapon to kill people due this 3 pointy spikes. One single point is the best for penetration purposes (no pun intended). Also he has almost no protection comparing to the others.
RyuFireheart Your point and logic are very sound, but still for some reasons the Retiarius was the one that would fight against two (secutor) so it must have been a pretty strong one, probably because of the net.
RyuFireheart Actually Retiarius were the most feared classes and the one considered the strongest, the protection were used to reduce differences in power between the classes. The trident does his job if we look at the skeletons of gladiators.
Metatron Maybe the Retiarius was a skilled fighter so he got the worst equipment to fight against 2 less experienced fighters as a way to balance things. It also seems like the Retiarius was meant to represent the civilian (fisherman) fighting agaist an invading army (well... 2 man with decent equipment).
Maybe people liked this role playing stuff alot
RyuFireheart It's true that a trident wouldn't penetrate as far but it would still be deadly. I'd be more concerned with the extra weight having 3 points would add. It also looks like it would get stuck quite easily but given it has so much range and Retiarius has 2 more weapons this could be used to his advantage.
RyuFireheart The trident looks pretty effective to me and I wouldn't be surprised if it would go through padded leather or even mail, but I would definitly prefer a shield over a net. I have some problems imagining that it could be employed effectivly especially when it hits the outstreched arm, but due to the success of the class I guess it had to be (with alot of practice).
I know this is a bit late but I wanted to inform you mighty lord of a pretty well done Gladiator game for the ps2 I once had but was sold by a friend i let borrow which is a really messed up thing to do so i stabbed his hand with a pencil. Anyway it was called Colosseum road to freedom. I recommend you look at it mighty lord :) It was a favorite of mine and rather nicely done.
the second sword on the wall looks so weird. i think you assembled it in the wrong way.
That is Orcrist, from the hobbit, that's how it's supposed to look
+Logan Plourde Thanks, i find the orcrist figures from google, and now i am sure the handle in this video is assembled in the wrong way.
@@xinglinjiang4952 yep.. the point of the pommel is supposed to face in the direction of the edge of the blade...
I remember seeing some video where someone was extolling a vegan diet because he found out that gladiators, the “original ultimate warriors”, as he said, mainly ate their veggies. On the flip side, Tasting History had a video which described the bacon Gatorade they fed the armies with. Now, this may be just me.. but I think if I was the emperor, I would feed my soldiers better than my entertainment death slaves.
I honestly wish you could lead a class at me school.
Did the same people always fight as the same kind or did they have 2 or more types they specialised in?
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+Bryan Clark ahah cheers pal ^^
Hi Metatron good video as always ! Glad you talk about one of my favorite topic. It's a shame that gladiators are so often poorly depicted in movie etc...
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Amazing video, as always
glad u made another classes video
Enjoying your channel 🙌
I speak contemporary, (modern) Greek and interestingly enough when I read the name of the final gladiatorial combatant named Dimachaerus I hear:
Dio/Duo - two
Machi / Maxi - battle/ action
chaeri/ xairi - hands
upon joining the terms it strings together such as: two battle hands
which mimics their combat style of dual blade all out onslaught.
pretty cool dude
edit: I fixed some repetitious words
Great video ! Love to see more .
Big like for dell documentez information. Also for clear and celan language
Great video. Can you do a video on the type of training for each different type of Gladiator?
The Retiarius would also fight the Murmillo. One would be heavy but slower and the other lighter and faster. The net would catch on the helm decorated with marine figures to symbolize a fisherman catching a fish. The Secutor translated to seeker, so they were more of a mid-size build who would focus on cardio exercise to chase opponents. Scissor was likely pronounced more like 'skizzor' in classic latin.
what type of cloth would i buy if i was trying to recreate the murmillo gladiator garment under the kidney belt?
Samnis - spear or/and gladius, big oval or rectangular shield, 1 or 2 greave(s), little breast plate, open plumed helmet, his face was free. His equipment was always ornate.
Samnis battled usually against murmillo or trax or another samnis. Samnis is in the same category like hoplomachus and secutor a light or medium gladiator always in beautiful ornate equipment.
Gallus - like the murmillo. Gallus is a heavy gladiator type with Gaulish style murmillo equipment
Laquearius - like the retiarius but he used lasso instead of net.
Andabates - wored a closed helmet, saw nothing, fought blindly always again an another andabates.
Eques - horse, little round shield, spear and cavalry sword, simple helmet, chain mail,
wored a bandage on his better arm
Sagittarius fought from range with a bow
Bustuarius - gladius graecus = greek sword, little hoplite round shield, and nothing else. Busturius fought only against an another Bustuarius
Cataphractarius - was completely covered in scale armor, and his horse too, did not carry shield. He used long lance and cavalry sword, a very expensive heavy cavalry gladiator - like a knight - fought against all other - except andabates, bustuarius, provocator - horse and foot gladiator types.
Essedarius - war chariot fighter, the most expensive - and therefore rare - gladiator type, with many weapon, bow and/or heavy spear and sword. He worn celtic style armour and helmet, often ornate. Essedarius fought against all other - except andabates, bustuarius, provocator - gladiator types.
Very good video, perfect made!
KalojanGostun Thank you so much :D
Great video 👍🏻
The second sword down from the top has its hilt on backwards ???
The video was great though. First time in forever I heard anyone know what they where talking about. It was awesome to see the some of the classes great the recognition they deserved. Always a fan of the Murmillo and the Roman Centurion...
cool channel Metatron!
Very impressive, signor. With respect, perhaps an augmented update is in order since I believe there are at least half a dozen other types of arena fighters (like the *laquearius* - basically identical to the retiarius but fighting with a lasso in one hand rather than a fish net). 🤓
This channel is awsome
Hey I just found your TH-cam channel this is pretty cool.
I would love to see you do a video on the Dacians and the Falx.