I have the red color and they're amazing. Upgraded from cheap box goggles so in my position it was a no brainer... Not ready to shell out for DJI and the FS offering is an overpriced insulting joke.
Oh yes, yes they have. I got HD3s at a discount during a memorial day sale, and I had to do the power button upgrade, the L1 and L10 mods, get a rapid fire and put a pololu power converter so they would stop complaining and leaving half my battery unused. Too many mods to get the goggle that I wanted at the price that I wanted. They could do it, but chose not to. That's why fatshark will feel some pain now, and I still love my modded HD3s.
That's exactly what they did I got say I bought the Hdos twice because by comparison their was nothing better. After I bought the Dji goggles I was kinda pissed at fatshark not comparing HD to analog but just the interface of the dji goggles, the brightness of the screen, ability to change fov. Left me wondering why Fatshark sold us the same goggles at top dollar slightly changed for years.
Last year we were showered with clickbait videos about things being fatshark killers... none of them were. In the last 30 days, we've gotten two options which seem to make the equivalent FS product obsolete. For my part, the ultimate flexibility is going to be SkyzoneOLED with a Ground Station signal, or DJI system with the ability to run my legacy Analog hardware. Realistically, I'll probably run the former for racing, and my wife will run the latter for her flying.
Thank you Joshua for validating my purchase, I'm upgrading from my first set the Dom V3's, I bought them 5 years ago, should be an outstanding upgrade ! I'm super stoked about being able to use external modules as well ! I'm look at the TBS Fusion, I'm more than sure this module is going to get better with time.
Reception is the top feature for me, so I guess the HDO+RapidFire combo is still the king. But Fatshark should take some notes from Skyzone: get a better menu system and SD card position (I don't mind the lack of a power button). Also, one thing that I see missing when comparing comparing prices between Skyzone and Fatshark is that you also need to count on spending some money on good antennas. This applies to both goggles.
For anyone wanting to use other recievers(Furious,TBM,immersion RC rapid fire) I just want to mention that the stock 5.8 Ghz Rxs are good enough for me on 25Mw on 200 Mw might as well be "dji" 🤣 ... I have the adapter module. fits nice on the sKY03O goggles.
Absolutely love all the competition and latest advancements in our hobby! Bare in mind, the trade off between best screens vs best RF performance is actually not a trade off for some people. For example, I don't need RapidFire grade RF performance because I always fly close by and quite open areas. For me, that makes the choice even easier (although for now I'm just using the Skyzone 02x). But great points for everyone to decide for themselves.
Bardwell....what the heck!!! They were in the cart, I had my credit card out with this video running in background. After 5 hours of studying goggles. Range limitations....man. Im going for it. Using your link. Thanks for the review.
@UberKrassMann I'm about to pull the trigger on these goggles too and I'd REALLY like an answer to this, it's the only thing imo stopping them from being the perfect goggle.
See, Skyzone on on top of their game already, they've heard the communites opinion regarding reciever module bay, and they react. How fast? Pretty damn fast IMO Fatshark 5yrs, power button, internal fan power... Response= head in sand.
@@shadowshatto don't quote me on it but I am quite sure someone in another review mentioned it. Possibly Albert Kim or nick burns. I don't remember which video. I'll see if I can find it when I have a chance.
@UberKrassMann I confirmed with Skyzone, they're releasing the adapter for this model. Did you not see the prototype in the above video? Joshua mentioned it explicitly.
The HDO pilots at my local field are blown away by my Sky03O goggles. As someone who never had goggles before, and really no experience with anything, I am thrilled, and if the range isn't quite what RapidFire would give me, I would never know anyway!!
Nice Joshua great review to show pilots just how good Skyzone goggles are. I have been using Skyzone goggles sins for years and never had a problem but everyone told me I was stupid and should buy Fatshark because Skyzone wont last well to all the people who said I was stupid ( Kiss my ass )
I've always loved my Skyzone's 02 V+ Never had any issues with receiver or video quality. They are going on three years old and never a technical issue/ failure. The only thing I wish mine had was a fan. LOL.. Go Skyzone..
Well, the name of the game is....Innovate or Die! Fatshark better start offering more for the money they charge, like a darn Receiver ;-) Glad to see yet another competitor to Fatshark. See you in the Air!
Who would have thought that if you dont innovate for 5 years other companys will produce a better product eventually ?! Crazy right? Well lets hope Fatshark learns something from that - but i am not sure if it is not to late with DJI and Skyzone outperforming them.
ive been using the skyzone 020c since they've been released and I absolutely love them, for the way that I fly and where I fly the built in receivers are just perfect
To all those people with HDOs already with Rapidfire, use them as the base station for the Skyzones super-duper screens. Problem solved. Can't wait for my skyoleds to arrive now. Cheers again. Great review as normal
Hi Josh Great video and review of the Skyzone googles I have been thinking about getting a new set and for the price and quality I don't think you can bet it right now.
Hey Joshua great video. You didn't sell me on the Skyzones. But you did sell me on a Rapidfire module for my HDOs! Owl RC owner here. But future Rapidfire owner at least until bytefrost comes out.
I have HDO's so my opinion might be a bit skewed, but to me the HDO's look more natural in the comparisons. It just looks like the contrast and brightness is turned up more on the Skyzones. You can see it on the white glow around the trees.
I couldn't agree more. Watching the side by side with a critical eye, the SkyZone's looked terrible to me. As if the contrast, brightness and sharpening were all turned to 10. Must have looked much different in person....?
About time someone didn't bag out skyzone I've got sky02s v+ they have awsome pair of goggles plus having hdmi on them helps now with shark byte out now that's the next step before thinking about dji
Does flying at 200-800mw make the whole module thing irrelevant? I believe it does. Rapidfire is awesome, but really only matters for some flying locations or for multi pilot situations. Josh can you please run a 800mW lap around to show if multipath is still an issue... a lot of us freestyle flyers don't fly with buddies.
The bottom line is that however much range you get at 800 mW on the Skyzone, you get a lot more on the RapidFire, and I don't know anybody who says, "Nah, I don't care about getting a little more range or penetration." This is especially relevant if you are in areas with lots of concrete or other obstacles.
Is there increased range (I'm talking 'long range', not deeper into / around a bando) with the Rapidfire in Legacy diversity mode? Since I don't fly in a multi-path environment I'm thinking the Rapidfire goodness is lost on me trying to fly mid-range (inside 2 miles).
@@JoshuaBardwell Excellent explanation. Running higher power just means that the point at which the module performance becomes relevant involves a lot more walking. Also the VTX performance when doing slow cruising can get dodgy, so the best apples to apples is 25mW flown close - Josh is spot on with that methodology.
@@shawnzfpv Every environment is a multipath environment. - the LNA's on goggles can get enough signal strength at the limit of range, what kills you first is that the cumulative multipath of the same signal drops your SNR way too low, so you get snow over top of an image.
@@tehllama42 I think my point was missed. If it flies the Bando at 800mw then I'm happy to use the Skyzones. The range point makes sense but not relevant to my point ;) purely a if I fly solo and midrange will the picture quality of the Skys trump the range of RF.
It's official I just ordered my Skyzone O3Os! Can't wait to see just how cool they look and feel on my pretty head...💖 I also will have the runcam hybrid and the iNav furious lightning flight controller. I've been flying RC for a long time but this will be my first real FPV experience. Hope Josh is right about the display... Anyways I'm now part of your drone/FPV world...🙋♂️ P.S Hope all is well Josh. Feel better soon.
Hey Joshua can you please consider making a video of the dji fpv goggle in combination with the dock king. I am currently undecided what to buy the hdo's or the dji, because if the dock king works fine on the dji goggle I cant see a reason that speaks against it.
Joshua Bardwell great review and love your honesty. I wish I had know about these before I bought the skyzone ox2. I still love mine great value. You should do a video in vr mode. So ppl can see it on there phones if that help them. I know it won’t be the same🤷🏼♂️
I ALWAYS HAVE AND DO VALUE YOUR OPINION!! But honestly until now I thought Fat Shark had you in there pocket on some leval. Obviously My Bad. Thank you so much for all you do for the community
I have the previous version Skyzone 03 and even then, I feel it is worlds better than HDO (which I tried out before). I'm not surprised by Skyzone's newest lineup. Expect to see more from them!
Yes but then you are escalating the price by adding a dock king, plus the module plus the skyzone goggles. That's now puts you into the similar price bracket as hdo's without the need for a ground station. You've just negated the point of skyzone's price point.
Nailed it. You end up at the same price point, but have a BETTER DVR, and better goggle image. Plus, you can spread out the purchases, and have a great goggle with a tolerable receiver while you wait on your ground station solution... on HDOs you'd be running a placeholder Eachine/Achilles module on a budget while you saved up for stuff. I'll still give FatShark the nod on customer service, but that's not enough to tip the scales back the other way.
@@cosmicfpv6497 I didn't actually like the image in the skyzone's. I think the hdo's looks more natural, I concede there is more detail with the skyzone's.
@@M4TTFPV It sounds like you're a Fatshark fanboy, in which case your mind is already made up. But I'd reserve judgment until you actually put them on your face: all reviewer footage pales in comparison to the actual image you see in the goggles.
So, DockKing with RapidFire, Skyzone 03O, and declare victory? Clearview Gound Station V2 in with an honorable mention if form factor isn't that relevant. Having a usable diversity module with the intial goggle purchase makes it a whole lot easier for somebody moving seriously into the hobby, and you can fly around at 200-800mW quite happily at parks and open areas until you need the full frame reconstruction unicorn magic - in which case you buy a RF module solution and party on.
Obviously more brightness range. If the weather gets bad, the sky darkens you will have possibilities to clear it up. You do see more. Although the quality in a few hundred meters is not very high. and such a high price of 350 to 500 EUR.
There is no better screen in the Skyzone. It is pure sw based filtering and image cosmetics. The quite heavy edge enhancememt is a bad idea. Try in low light,where you will put edge enhancement to noise. Try with fast horizontal motion where deinterlacing gets to it's limits and you edge enhance stripes. JB, can you pls check?
No its not. I thought so too but basically it looks more immersive in reality. You can also turn off sharpening completely and still have this immersive vibrance with luminance set a bit higher. I actually wonder that Bardwell did not get any distortions on the edges which are the only thing I really dont like about the google.
@@JohannesReichardtgreat if the nonsense can be turned off. if skyzone 'hyper-realistic' in colors, the question remains whether we just have a more aggressive color saturation setting or whether there is a really a wider dynamic range. Unfortunately the test allows no judgment on that. The market for that size of Oled display is small. The is a quite good chance that displays are from the same factory.
@@Stefan_73 As said, its just more vibrant and still looks natural, not like oversaturated. I have a pair and its obviously not the same oled panels as the hdos. But I guess those panels will most likely come in many new goggles quite soon.
I just purchased the HDO's and rapid fire last week and very impressed with it. $650 for the goggles, rapid fire and 2 axii2 antennas, patch antenna and 2 stubby axii2 antennas. I don't feel that is a bad price for everything. I would have passed up the skyzones for the rapid fire along.
This a really great video. WOW. If I could ask for just a little more .... When you are comparing side by side with the Rapid Fire (Best compare footage), I would love to see that from the DJI rig. Would love to see how Digital reacts and wondering when or if Fatshark and others are joining the Digital arena. Gotta say ... if I'm choosing Analog ... you really helped ALOT.
Man, i spent a good 3 hours watching yours and uavfutures videos on the latest goggles, was very torn between the attitude v5 and the sky02c.. didn't really want to go above 300 since i'm still fairly new. but these seem well worth a little more for oled. Haven't owned anything but box goggles so far, but both of you guys talking about how wonky the attitude v5 resolution is and how those goggles still come out to like $350ish and with racedayquads having the sky03o in stock(really not a fan of ordering through banggood), figured i'd splurge a bit to help get through this quarantine. Super excited for these to come in.
The front camera in mine went bad in about a week, which makes me worry about other components in the goggles going bad. I'm always thinking I need to upgrade this or upgrade that, but once I got these goggles I stopped thinking I need to upgrade my goggles. My next goggle purchase will be the DJI ones, but as far as analog, my search is over.
Hey Joshua! Will you be doing a review on the new sky02S V+ and sky03O V2? From what I can see they have a new sleeker design and faceplate and i would probably prefer them to the "older" ones.
Because...service centers & spare parts on more than one continent meaning you can get your goggle reasonably quickly repaired, even old ones they stopped making years ago, like KababFPV has done. When I needed a new fan+foam+strap I contacted Fat Shark, they directed me to an official spare parts seller headinthecloudsrc.co.uk where I grabbed a new (black) faceplate with fan & vinyl padding, and a black headstrap for my HD2's :)
I know they have a brighter screen than my HDO goggles but at this point in time I am just not willing to give up my rapidfire module hopefully sky zone will come up with a solution in the future.
The fatshark does a better job at resolving the thickness of that hanging cable to the right. The difference is significant. I think this has to do with the sharpening of the skyzones. There's a white halo around dark colors with the skyzones as well.
Skyzones were always great and i love my sky02 and would never exchange them even for HDOs(even for free), they work, big fov, receiver is great for what i fly and if it happens i ll rarely get to bando spot, i ll just pump up my vtx.
DJI goggles are on pre-sale on Bangood under 500€. The only reason to use Fatshark or Skyzone is micros and any thing that will not handle DJI device weight and dimensions (50g) If Fathark make some hd modul under 50g to cooperate with HDO (very probably) it can be something. Joshua, please make some Larva X review! Btw: RIP Orca!
@Joshua Bardwell - No reason to try and tapdance around it - peoples faces come in different shapes, and any company that makes serious optics make models for Asian markets (but sell them worldwide), because that cut fits a lot better for people. It's enough of a thing that the different cuts get their own NSN number for DoD acquisition - so I think you'd be absolutely justified in calling out a manufacturer who ships worldwide for NOT doing a good job of this until now, and Skyzone are the first ones doing it truly right.
For me in Canada hdo2 it would cost $300 more including a reciever, after using commander v1's, these are definitely a bigger and way cleaner view. Wanted an upgrade and trusted you recommendations.
Too bad it isn't just that easy, like "who's got the best image?"... You wear these goggles so often for so long, around your head - right on your face. There's so much more playing into it, me thinks, than just the best picture i.e. wearing comfort, handling, battery options, receiver, software, the lenses/ mirrors, availabilty of replacement parts etc. etc. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.^^
Guess I'd have to see it in person. The difference from the HDO seems better, but marginally so. The RF performance is quite a bit lower than Rapidfire. In that case, HDO/Rapidfire wins, but if the image of the Skyzones is really leaps and bounds better than the HDO, I would pick Skyzone.
1. As an Asian, Skyzone 03O is a godsend for me, I can already see better pictures than with HD3, and able to place my eyes even closer to the displays with the bigger faceplate, now I can see whole screen with perfect sharpness. NO MORE Fatsharks for me, yay! 2. Don't remember seeing that strong sharpening halo in my 03O, firmware issue?
Hello Joshua! I really enjoy your videos. Did I understand correctly that a FatShark-module bay addon is in the works for the Skyzone? Can you give any more details on that?
Docking King then you can use any module you won't with any goggles as long as the goggles has a v in Port .that's what I've come to understand with the research I've done .I could be wrong ? but I'm pretty sure
So Joshua, do you think you'll be able to objectively compare Fusion to Rapidfire, or are you planning to just stay away from it, or what's the plan? I want to upgrade from my Laforge V4 to a "merging" rather than diversity receiver, so I'm interested in how the two compare, and I'm just wondering if I should wait for you to put them through their paces. I consider you to be like the NYT of FPV. The information source of record. And I trust you to tell us if you feel an internal conflict of interest. Sorry if you've addressed this and I missed it. I've been really sick and feel disconnected a bit even though it's only been a couple of weeks that I've been "fogged in"...😉 Happy Flying, Joshua and everyone! 😁👍 Edit: Oh, and great, informative video, as usual. I definitely learned something today! 😎
Since I already use rapidfire, and for now the dom v3's are acceptable I will just wait for v2 with module option and then say farewell to the fatsharks
Fantastic review, Joshua! 😃 Just one question... Let's say I would use the Sky03O with the Docking King and the RapidFire... Would there be any disadvantage? Any latency, something like that?
Shouldn't be any issues with latency using an external module. The disadvantage would be the need to power the Dock King, having to put it on a tripod or something, and have a wire running to your goggles - could be tricky if you have crash and have to go hunting for your quad using the model finder function.
I was hoping you'd do a more traditional comparison, perhaps around your yard? Sure, the receiver isn't as good as what you can put into Fatsharks. But not all of us intentionally fly in and around massive steel structures. Just a simple floaty, hovery comparison of the image would be nice.
The difference in range is still noticeable. Even at 500 mW I have a little trouble flying behind my barn whereas with owlrc I don't. Using higher output power just moves the coverage contours out. It doesn't change their shape.
Nothing is the same after saw DJI system, everything is like compare the a lego car with a real car. So I hope soon anyone build a digital system. Analog start to many years ago, is time to move on....
I'm glad nobody I know has the DJI HD FPV system because I'm scared to try it, knowing full well that an analogue video image, even a full resolution one I've heavily post-processed, cannot compete with a true 720p image, it would likely make me evaluate all my possessions in monetary terms to see what I could sell to buy the DJI HD FPV!
@@JoshuaBardwell yep I had 2 of them and neither had it's original motors longer than a day.. if you look close you'll notice they are press fit and have no clip holding them on.. horrible 😆
The goggle industry for FPV is so weird. The best company is scared of their own shadow and their competitors refuse to beat them. Skyzone could have destroyed the HDO is one fell swoop just by releasing these Sky030's with a module bay. They did'nt even need to include their own module. DJI definitely missed the boat with no module bay too. And poor Orqa delayed by the power and fan buttons that FS is too scared to even attempt. Im with you on HDO's. I bought them and RapidFire last year finally going to upgrade from my Skyzone box goggles. They were very good and the RapidFire was better by far than my box goggles but the image wasn't so much better that it made me fly better. They simply didn't hit the value checkbox for me. Glad I sold them and waited, DJI's are awesome and I'll be selling my Orqa's if there is no HD module on the horizon by next spring.
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Fatshark ... You're gonna learn something today.
Nicely done
The savagery. The honesty. It's all there. Love it.
But they don’t ever learn
JB: "I BOUGHT A NEW PAIR OF HDO GOGGLES"
my bank account: 😐
I had to be sure it was a fair comparison :-/
@@JoshuaBardwell fully understandable, don't want another tbs situation, kudos for consistency, however the sentence is pretty MEMEable😂
@Joshua, hang on, I thought you already owned two sets of HDO's for your module comparison videos where you pointed GoPros into their lenses?
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kingsloth for real!!😂😂
90% of us don’t need the rapidfire module, the skyzones receiver will be good enough. I’m still using a NexWave module with my dominator v3
Rapidfire will change ur life bro
I don't fly indoors, nor do I race quads. I don't think the Sky03O receivers will be any worse than the LaForge v4 I'm flying now on my Dom V3.
@@shawnzfpv correct but the OLED will be amazing
@@flo-ridafpv5713 ok maybe but it's so expensive!!! For most people, built in receivers are a much more practical option...
@@quincypurcell5222 meh eat soup for a month if needed, more abs better fpv experience ;)
Little by little, FPV products just keep getting better 👍
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Thanks Joshua, this is the review I've been waiting for to make my decision. Now I can go and buy me the skyzone 03o.
I ordered the Amber's they looked the best to me.
I have the red color and they're amazing. Upgraded from cheap box goggles so in my position it was a no brainer... Not ready to shell out for DJI and the FS offering is an overpriced insulting joke.
@@-BUFFALOMan yes, they're outstanding
Oh crap. DJI, now Skyzones, next Orqa. Fatshark sat on its merits too long?
Oh yes, yes they have. I got HD3s at a discount during a memorial day sale, and I had to do the power button upgrade, the L1 and L10 mods, get a rapid fire and put a pololu power converter so they would stop complaining and leaving half my battery unused. Too many mods to get the goggle that I wanted at the price that I wanted. They could do it, but chose not to. That's why fatshark will feel some pain now, and I still love my modded HD3s.
@@JorgeJimenez2020 or at least they will be forced to make a finished product that isn't the same design for years and years with all its faults
Fatshark HD will be via HDMI so why buy the HDO's when you can use it with the SkyZones?
That's exactly what they did I got say I bought the Hdos twice because by comparison their was nothing better. After I bought the Dji goggles I was kinda pissed at fatshark not comparing HD to analog but just the interface of the dji goggles, the brightness of the screen, ability to change fov. Left me wondering why Fatshark sold us the same goggles at top dollar slightly changed for years.
Last year we were showered with clickbait videos about things being fatshark killers... none of them were. In the last 30 days, we've gotten two options which seem to make the equivalent FS product obsolete.
For my part, the ultimate flexibility is going to be SkyzoneOLED with a Ground Station signal, or DJI system with the ability to run my legacy Analog hardware. Realistically, I'll probably run the former for racing, and my wife will run the latter for her flying.
You crack me up buddy! I follow you like a hawk! Keep up the great work. You've been a massive resource to me as I enter this hobby.
Bout time there was some competition to fatshark!
Skyzone rocks!
Been using skyzone v1 for 2years+.
I knew they were going somewhere. 👍
Same here i had since they came out with them still work but will retire them here soon
Thank you Joshua for validating my purchase, I'm upgrading from my first set the Dom V3's, I bought them 5 years ago, should be an outstanding upgrade ! I'm super stoked about being able to use external modules as well !
I'm look at the TBS Fusion, I'm more than sure this module is going to get better with time.
Reception is the top feature for me, so I guess the HDO+RapidFire combo is still the king. But Fatshark should take some notes from Skyzone: get a better menu system and SD card position (I don't mind the lack of a power button). Also, one thing that I see missing when comparing comparing prices between Skyzone and Fatshark is that you also need to count on spending some money on good antennas. This applies to both goggles.
For anyone wanting to use other recievers(Furious,TBM,immersion RC rapid fire) I just want to mention that the stock 5.8 Ghz Rxs are good enough for me on 25Mw on 200 Mw might as well be "dji" 🤣 ... I have the adapter module. fits nice on the sKY03O goggles.
Absolutely love all the competition and latest advancements in our hobby! Bare in mind, the trade off between best screens vs best RF performance is actually not a trade off for some people. For example, I don't need RapidFire grade RF performance because I always fly close by and quite open areas. For me, that makes the choice even easier (although for now I'm just using the Skyzone 02x). But great points for everyone to decide for themselves.
If Skyzone is on the march for market shares, I cant wait to see version 2.0 after all the reviews!
Josh man. You are the best thing for FPV since idk Jesus himself. You do everything an FPV pilot would want. Thank you for doing this for everyone.
Bardwell....what the heck!!! They were in the cart, I had my credit card out with this video running in background. After 5 hours of studying goggles. Range limitations....man. Im going for it. Using your link. Thanks for the review.
Skyzone has confirmed there will be an external module adaptor coming so if you want to use rapid fire with these you will be able to.
@UberKrassMann I'm about to pull the trigger on these goggles too and I'd REALLY like an answer to this, it's the only thing imo stopping them from being the perfect goggle.
See, Skyzone on on top of their game already, they've heard the communites opinion regarding reciever module bay, and they react.
How fast?
Pretty damn fast IMO
Fatshark 5yrs, power button, internal fan power... Response= head in sand.
@@shadowshatto don't quote me on it but I am quite sure someone in another review mentioned it. Possibly Albert Kim or nick burns. I don't remember which video. I'll see if I can find it when I have a chance.
@@MxJavice I'd appreciate that. If Skyzone had more social media presence I'd just ask them myself
@UberKrassMann I confirmed with Skyzone, they're releasing the adapter for this model. Did you not see the prototype in the above video? Joshua mentioned it explicitly.
The HDO pilots at my local field are blown away by my Sky03O goggles. As someone who never had goggles before, and really no experience with anything, I am thrilled, and if the range isn't quite what RapidFire would give me, I would never know anyway!!
Its about time to upgrade my goggles...Skyzone 03O HDO Killers :)
Nice Joshua great review to show pilots just how good Skyzone goggles are. I have been using Skyzone goggles sins for years and never had a problem but everyone told me I was stupid and should buy Fatshark because Skyzone wont last well to all the people who said I was stupid ( Kiss my ass )
5:40 thanks for this edit JB from the future!
I love Skyzone. I still use the Skyzone 'Le Drib's as I call them (Sky02's) every day I fly and they perform really well.
I've always loved my Skyzone's 02 V+ Never had any issues with receiver or video quality. They are going on three years old and never a technical issue/ failure. The only thing I wish mine had was a fan. LOL.. Go Skyzone..
Oh hell yeah! I've been waiting for this one for a while.
Well, the name of the game is....Innovate or Die! Fatshark better start offering more for the money they charge, like a darn Receiver ;-) Glad to see yet another competitor to Fatshark. See you in the Air!
Who would have thought that if you dont innovate for 5 years other companys will produce a better product eventually ?! Crazy right?
Well lets hope Fatshark learns something from that - but i am not sure if it is not to late with DJI and Skyzone outperforming them.
ive been using the skyzone 020c since they've been released and I absolutely love them, for the way that I fly and where I fly the built in receivers are just perfect
To all those people with HDOs already with Rapidfire, use them as the base station for the Skyzones super-duper screens. Problem solved.
Can't wait for my skyoleds to arrive now.
Cheers again.
Great review as normal
Hi Josh Great video and review of the Skyzone googles I have been thinking about getting a new set and for the price and quality I don't think you can bet it right now.
If not anything else, Fatshark now have some real competition nipping at their heels, looking forward to see what the next round brings!
I heard a rumour that Fatshark's next groundbraking, cutting edge, game-changing goggle will be HDOs,......with a power button!
@@roh5876 hey, don't be getting the kids all excited!
What I really like about the Sky03O is that it should light a fire under Fatsharks butt and spur them into making better goggles for less money.
Hey Joshua great video. You didn't sell me on the Skyzones. But you did sell me on a Rapidfire module for my HDOs! Owl RC owner here. But future Rapidfire owner at least until bytefrost comes out.
I have HDO's so my opinion might be a bit skewed, but to me the HDO's look more natural in the comparisons. It just looks like the contrast and brightness is turned up more on the Skyzones. You can see it on the white glow around the trees.
I couldn't agree more. Watching the side by side with a critical eye, the SkyZone's looked terrible to me. As if the contrast, brightness and sharpening were all turned to 10.
Must have looked much different in person....?
Mine are on their way... I ordered about 2 weeks ago. I refresh tracking every 5 minutes.
I just received the skyzone 02x today for $280 USD and I love it, its so clear!
Great video the best review IV ever seen
Informative as always my dude! I had to watch your vids to get a second opinion on what to spend my $$$ on.
About time someone didn't bag out skyzone I've got sky02s v+ they have awsome pair of goggles plus having hdmi on them helps now with shark byte out now that's the next step before thinking about dji
Does flying at 200-800mw make the whole module thing irrelevant? I believe it does. Rapidfire is awesome, but really only matters for some flying locations or for multi pilot situations. Josh can you please run a 800mW lap around to show if multipath is still an issue... a lot of us freestyle flyers don't fly with buddies.
The bottom line is that however much range you get at 800 mW on the Skyzone, you get a lot more on the RapidFire, and I don't know anybody who says, "Nah, I don't care about getting a little more range or penetration." This is especially relevant if you are in areas with lots of concrete or other obstacles.
Is there increased range (I'm talking 'long range', not deeper into / around a bando) with the Rapidfire in Legacy diversity mode?
Since I don't fly in a multi-path environment I'm thinking the Rapidfire goodness is lost on me trying to fly mid-range (inside 2 miles).
@@JoshuaBardwell Excellent explanation. Running higher power just means that the point at which the module performance becomes relevant involves a lot more walking. Also the VTX performance when doing slow cruising can get dodgy, so the best apples to apples is 25mW flown close - Josh is spot on with that methodology.
@@shawnzfpv Every environment is a multipath environment. - the LNA's on goggles can get enough signal strength at the limit of range, what kills you first is that the cumulative multipath of the same signal drops your SNR way too low, so you get snow over top of an image.
@@tehllama42 I think my point was missed. If it flies the Bando at 800mw then I'm happy to use the Skyzones. The range point makes sense but not relevant to my point ;) purely a if I fly solo and midrange will the picture quality of the Skys trump the range of RF.
It's official I just ordered my Skyzone O3Os! Can't wait to see just how cool they look and feel on my pretty head...💖 I also will have the runcam hybrid and the iNav furious lightning flight controller. I've been flying RC for a long time but this will be my first real FPV experience. Hope Josh is right about the display... Anyways I'm now part of your drone/FPV world...🙋♂️ P.S Hope all is well Josh. Feel better soon.
Great review Joshua I'm on my second Set of skyzone's and love them. Might upgrade to the oled ones now.
I'm very happy with my spektrum Focal V2's with TBS Fusion.
if skyzone are better please make sure to include them in your review of the ORQAs when you get them
Hey Joshua can you please consider making a video of the dji fpv goggle in combination with the dock king. I am currently undecided what to buy the hdo's or the dji, because if the dock king works fine on the dji goggle I cant see a reason that speaks against it.
Joshua Bardwell great review and love your honesty. I wish I had know about these before I bought the skyzone ox2. I still love mine great value.
You should do a video in vr mode. So ppl can see it on there phones if that help them. I know it won’t be the same🤷🏼♂️
In Drone Mesh’s test the sky03’s receiver was better than any module but rapidfire.
Really a must in fpv.
In my test, OwlRC clearly beat SkyO30. Different tests, different results.
I ALWAYS HAVE AND DO VALUE YOUR OPINION!! But honestly until now I thought Fat Shark had you in there pocket on some leval. Obviously My Bad. Thank you so much for all you do for the community
I just like what I like. Nobody is buying my opinion.
I have the previous version Skyzone 03 and even then, I feel it is worlds better than HDO (which I tried out before). I'm not surprised by Skyzone's newest lineup. Expect to see more from them!
Just use a Rapidfire with a Dock King when the Rapidfire is needed.
Yes but then you are escalating the price by adding a dock king, plus the module plus the skyzone goggles. That's now puts you into the similar price bracket as hdo's without the need for a ground station. You've just negated the point of skyzone's price point.
@@M4TTFPV In that case you are getting much better image quality for the same price point.
Nailed it. You end up at the same price point, but have a BETTER DVR, and better goggle image. Plus, you can spread out the purchases, and have a great goggle with a tolerable receiver while you wait on your ground station solution... on HDOs you'd be running a placeholder Eachine/Achilles module on a budget while you saved up for stuff.
I'll still give FatShark the nod on customer service, but that's not enough to tip the scales back the other way.
@@cosmicfpv6497 I didn't actually like the image in the skyzone's. I think the hdo's looks more natural, I concede there is more detail with the skyzone's.
@@M4TTFPV It sounds like you're a Fatshark fanboy, in which case your mind is already made up. But I'd reserve judgment until you actually put them on your face: all reviewer footage pales in comparison to the actual image you see in the goggles.
So, DockKing with RapidFire, Skyzone 03O, and declare victory? Clearview Gound Station V2 in with an honorable mention if form factor isn't that relevant.
Having a usable diversity module with the intial goggle purchase makes it a whole lot easier for somebody moving seriously into the hobby, and you can fly around at 200-800mW quite happily at parks and open areas until you need the full frame reconstruction unicorn magic - in which case you buy a RF module solution and party on.
Obviously more brightness range. If the weather gets bad, the sky darkens you will have possibilities to clear it up. You do see more. Although the quality in a few hundred meters is not very high. and such a high price of 350 to 500 EUR.
There is no better screen in the Skyzone. It is pure sw based filtering and image cosmetics. The quite heavy edge enhancememt is a bad idea. Try in low light,where you will put edge enhancement to noise. Try with fast horizontal motion where deinterlacing gets to it's limits and you edge enhance stripes. JB, can you pls check?
No its not. I thought so too but basically it looks more immersive in reality. You can also turn off sharpening completely and still have this immersive vibrance with luminance set a bit higher. I actually wonder that Bardwell did not get any distortions on the edges which are the only thing I really dont like about the google.
@@JohannesReichardtgreat if the nonsense can be turned off. if skyzone 'hyper-realistic' in colors, the question remains whether we just have a more aggressive color saturation setting or whether there is a really a wider dynamic range. Unfortunately the test allows no judgment on that. The market for that size of Oled display is small. The is a quite good chance that displays are from the same factory.
@@Stefan_73 As said, its just more vibrant and still looks natural, not like oversaturated. I have a pair and its obviously not the same oled panels as the hdos. But I guess those panels will most likely come in many new goggles quite soon.
Looks like these Skyzones coupled with a ground station would be epic.
Apples to apples. Its like the tv's at Walmart. It doesn't matter what you get, once you get it home it will be just fine.
So not true... Nothing holds a candle to the latest generation OLED TVs.
I just purchased the HDO's and rapid fire last week and very impressed with it. $650 for the goggles, rapid fire and 2 axii2 antennas, patch antenna and 2 stubby axii2 antennas. I don't feel that is a bad price for everything. I would have passed up the skyzones for the rapid fire along.
This a really great video. WOW. If I could ask for just a little more .... When you are comparing side by side with the Rapid Fire (Best compare footage), I would love to see that from the DJI rig. Would love to see how Digital reacts and wondering when or if Fatshark and others are joining the Digital arena. Gotta say ... if I'm choosing Analog ... you really helped ALOT.
I am really happy with my purchase. Glad you liked it also. Is it going to replace your HDO?
Thks four your video whitch Best four you Skyzone
Love Skyzone, im flying the sky02+ they are 2? years old and i wouldn't trade them for any fatsharks
Man, i spent a good 3 hours watching yours and uavfutures videos on the latest goggles, was very torn between the attitude v5 and the sky02c.. didn't really want to go above 300 since i'm still fairly new. but these seem well worth a little more for oled. Haven't owned anything but box goggles so far, but both of you guys talking about how wonky the attitude v5 resolution is and how those goggles still come out to like $350ish and with racedayquads having the sky03o in stock(really not a fan of ordering through banggood), figured i'd splurge a bit to help get through this quarantine. Super excited for these to come in.
For 10 dollars you can buy an external module bay, in which you can put rapidfire or any other module.
The front camera in mine went bad in about a week, which makes me worry about other components in the goggles going bad. I'm always thinking I need to upgrade this or upgrade that, but once I got these goggles I stopped thinking I need to upgrade my goggles. My next goggle purchase will be the DJI ones, but as far as analog, my search is over.
Hey Joshua!
Will you be doing a review on the new sky02S V+ and sky03O V2?
From what I can see they have a new sleeker design and faceplate and i would probably prefer them to the "older" ones.
I watch this. I try the three buying links. Two are pre-order and the third never finishing loading. Phew, saved over $400.
But that's exactly the point. With fatshark not only do you not get a receiver, but the screens aren't as good. So they cost more... Because?
Let's not forget it has no interface as well.
Because...service centers & spare parts on more than one continent meaning you can get your goggle reasonably quickly repaired, even old ones they stopped making years ago, like KababFPV has done.
When I needed a new fan+foam+strap I contacted Fat Shark, they directed me to an official spare parts seller headinthecloudsrc.co.uk where I grabbed a new (black) faceplate with fan & vinyl padding, and a black headstrap for my HD2's :)
Skyzone just got it right , excellent quality and price
I know they have a brighter screen than my HDO goggles but at this point in time I am just not willing to give up my rapidfire module hopefully sky zone will come up with a solution in the future.
The fatshark does a better job at resolving the thickness of that hanging cable to the right. The difference is significant. I think this has to do with the sharpening of the skyzones. There's a white halo around dark colors with the skyzones as well.
I was gonna get the 02x but came across these as my 1st.
Do you think is a good option for 379 right now or you recomend another ones? I am still using a Quanum V2 Pro and I would like to update
Skyzones were always great and i love my sky02 and would never exchange them even for HDOs(even for free), they work, big fov, receiver is great for what i fly and if it happens i ll rarely get to bando spot, i ll just pump up my vtx.
DJI goggles are on pre-sale on Bangood under 500€.
The only reason to use Fatshark or Skyzone is micros and any thing that will not handle DJI device weight and dimensions (50g)
If Fathark make some hd modul under 50g to cooperate with HDO (very probably) it can be something.
Joshua, please make some Larva X review!
Btw: RIP Orca!
@Joshua Bardwell - No reason to try and tapdance around it - peoples faces come in different shapes, and any company that makes serious optics make models for Asian markets (but sell them worldwide), because that cut fits a lot better for people. It's enough of a thing that the different cuts get their own NSN number for DoD acquisition - so I think you'd be absolutely justified in calling out a manufacturer who ships worldwide for NOT doing a good job of this until now, and Skyzone are the first ones doing it truly right.
For me in Canada hdo2 it would cost $300 more including a reciever, after using commander v1's, these are definitely a bigger and way cleaner view. Wanted an upgrade and trusted you recommendations.
My OG commanders are dying and the only goggles i'm looking at are skyzone o2 and o3.. every review of them is solid.. just so expensive !!
Too bad it isn't just that easy, like "who's got the best image?"...
You wear these goggles so often for so long, around your head - right on your face. There's so much more playing into it, me thinks, than just the best picture i.e. wearing comfort, handling, battery options, receiver, software, the lenses/ mirrors, availabilty of replacement parts etc. etc.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop.^^
You cracked me up with that intro Joshua. 😂
Guess I'd have to see it in person. The difference from the HDO seems better, but marginally so. The RF performance is quite a bit lower than Rapidfire. In that case, HDO/Rapidfire wins, but if the image of the Skyzones is really leaps and bounds better than the HDO, I would pick Skyzone.
1. As an Asian, Skyzone 03O is a godsend for me, I can already see better pictures than with HD3, and able to place my eyes even closer to the displays with the bigger faceplate, now I can see whole screen with perfect sharpness. NO MORE Fatsharks for me, yay!
2. Don't remember seeing that strong sharpening halo in my 03O, firmware issue?
"I don't know the answer to that question". The answer to that question, is the DJI Goggles with a rapidfire module added.
I tried this....rather use the SKY030 with analog than the DJI A/V in. Screen too huge...like watching SD TV on a 65" Sammy. Looks like crap.
It would be great to see review of skyzone module bay. Perhaps it can be hooked on some budget goggles with rapidfire.
Could you make a video about the Orca goggles? I know u have made one, but they will soon come out and I'm Interested
in your updated opinion. :)
As soon as they send me one to review I will review it. They haven't shipped any yet.
Hello Joshua! I really enjoy your videos. Did I understand correctly that a FatShark-module bay addon is in the works for the Skyzone? Can you give any more details on that?
I wish you would have done a run at full power in the building just to see what it is like.
Yep this will reveal the most information to the average freestyle solo flyer.
Docking King then you can use any module you won't with any goggles as long as the goggles has a v in Port .that's what I've come to understand with the research I've done .I could be wrong ? but I'm pretty sure
So Joshua, do you think you'll be able to objectively compare Fusion to Rapidfire, or are you planning to just stay away from it, or what's the plan? I want to upgrade from my Laforge V4 to a "merging" rather than diversity receiver, so I'm interested in how the two compare, and I'm just wondering if I should wait for you to put them through their paces. I consider you to be like the NYT of FPV. The information source of record. And I trust you to tell us if you feel an internal conflict of interest. Sorry if you've addressed this and I missed it. I've been really sick and feel disconnected a bit even though it's only been a couple of weeks that I've been "fogged in"...😉
Happy Flying, Joshua and everyone! 😁👍
Edit: Oh, and great, informative video, as usual. I definitely learned something today! 😎
This is what I've been waiting for, everyone ramp up your game again for digital now!! DJI got first, who will get best?
Since I already use rapidfire, and for now the dom v3's are acceptable I will just wait for v2 with module option and then say farewell to the fatsharks
UPDATE! I got em'... 💖 Wow, I love everything about them especially the OLED DISPLAY... 💖👍💖
Fantastic review, Joshua! 😃
Just one question... Let's say I would use the Sky03O with the Docking King and the RapidFire... Would there be any disadvantage? Any latency, something like that?
The only disadvantage would be having to lug it around.
Shouldn't be any issues with latency using an external module. The disadvantage would be the need to power the Dock King, having to put it on a tripod or something, and have a wire running to your goggles - could be tricky if you have crash and have to go hunting for your quad using the model finder function.
@@licensetodrive9930 Yeah, that's true...
I was hoping you'd do a more traditional comparison, perhaps around your yard? Sure, the receiver isn't as good as what you can put into Fatsharks. But not all of us intentionally fly in and around massive steel structures. Just a simple floaty, hovery comparison of the image would be nice.
The difference in range is still noticeable. Even at 500 mW I have a little trouble flying behind my barn whereas with owlrc I don't. Using higher output power just moves the coverage contours out. It doesn't change their shape.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the speedy response! I'm still using $60 box goggles and I think it's seriously time to upgrade.
For usability i love to see the SD-Card slot reachable nicely and 10:58 kills it lol ;-)
Thanks,I believe fat shark has good customer service,what do you know about sky zones?
Hahaha, that intro... 👌😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
its a long time overdue if you ask me...if a company can make a product thats good and not have exaggerated prices their going to dominate 100%
You think the DJI googles with rapid-fire via video input would look better than SkyZone?
100% yes. Adjustable FOV that goes up to 54 degrees. 16:9 2" panels that are better than 720p. No comparison.
Nothing is the same after saw DJI system, everything is like compare the a lego car with a real car. So I hope soon anyone build a digital system. Analog start to many years ago, is time to move on....
I'm glad nobody I know has the DJI HD FPV system because I'm scared to try it, knowing full well that an analogue video image, even a full resolution one I've heavily post-processed, cannot compete with a true 720p image, it would likely make me evaluate all my possessions in monetary terms to see what I could sell to buy the DJI HD FPV!
Skyzone will make a module skyo3 option u will see
Next month
The goggles are impressive, but the fact that you have a Larva X with bells still on the motors.. AMAZING! LMAO!
Does it lose bells a lot?
@@JoshuaBardwell yep I had 2 of them and neither had it's original motors longer than a day.. if you look close you'll notice they are press fit and have no clip holding them on.. horrible 😆
The goggle industry for FPV is so weird. The best company is scared of their own shadow and their competitors refuse to beat them. Skyzone could have destroyed the HDO is one fell swoop just by releasing these Sky030's with a module bay. They did'nt even need to include their own module. DJI definitely missed the boat with no module bay too. And poor Orqa delayed by the power and fan buttons that FS is too scared to even attempt.
Im with you on HDO's. I bought them and RapidFire last year finally going to upgrade from my Skyzone box goggles. They were very good and the RapidFire was better by far than my box goggles but the image wasn't so much better that it made me fly better. They simply didn't hit the value checkbox for me. Glad I sold them and waited, DJI's are awesome and I'll be selling my Orqa's if there is no HD module on the horizon by next spring.