That's part of marketing. Actors are supposed to act really passionate about the show (or movie) to help sell it. Behind closed doors, however, they all may be talking to each other about how bad it is.
Anson Mount (black bolt) Is one of the greatest telovision actors of this generation. Just go watch him in Hell on Wheels. He was way too good for the show. It's a shame cause he would have made an amazing Moonknight.
What went wrong is that they thought they could put a whole race of diversely superpowered individuals who live on the moon in a tv series with the cheapest budget they could.
Disney needs to fire Perlmutter. Everything that has been a problem at Marvel was due to his cheapness and vindictiveness. He was a suit in the toy business whose mindset has always been make it cheap and screw the competition. That kind of mindset doesn't work in the billion dollar level Marvel is at now.
It's interesting that the former head was against a Black Panther movie, considering how gangbusters it's been doing at the box office. So not only was he wrong about the Inhumans but also about Black Panther. Time will only tell how correct his predictions for Captain Marvel were but right now he's 0/2
I suppose he may still be vindicated when it comes to Captain Marvel. Wonder Woman is a well known cultural icon. Most people don't know who Captain Marvel is.
She's better known than Rocket Raccoon, and the Guardians of the Galaxy films seem to be doing okay! Also, people laughed at the idea of Ant-Man getting a movie until it happened, and was awesome, and the second one was even better! (Also, think of all the movies NOT based on well-known works. Everyone ever, as well as the entire premise, is unknown to ALL if it's an original work!) Also, think of all the movies starring high-profile characters that failed. Good writing can make Ant-Man draw sellout crowds; bad writing can keep us laughing our asses off at Batman and Robin 20 years later.
I have zero problem with never having the X-Men in the MCU. It never made sense to me that some people have powers and are treated like gods, while others are attacked for having them. It doesn't make any sense. That said, if they could ever work out a cross-universe single feature film, I'd have no problem with that.
The sense is people born with powers are Mutants and people fear them, others that gain the powers other ways like Captain America, Spider-Man etc, people mainly love them... yeah there is a fine line. It don't help that a lot of Mutants are bad or just alien/monster looking too.
Hulian Sells Sandals but both of those happened because of X-Men origins Wolverine which basically destroyed both characters. Also the Fantastic Four movies
Very easily. Both of them had stellar writing that propelled them to household name status. You can’t just churn out another cultural phenomenon like X-men or Game of Thrones. Not that it stops people trying.
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Great video, but you forget a crucial component: Jeph Loeb. He's the guy you showed when you mentioned Scott Buck. Where Perlmutter may be in charge, he's also a notorious recluse and really doesn't involve himself creatively; he just makes decisions, whereas Jeph Loeb is far more hands on when it comes to Marvel TV and he's equally, if not more responsible for the direction MARVEL TV is going: He's the one also pushing for the multiple series across different networks such as Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, the latter far more suited as a Netflix show, he demanded the rushed schedule for Iron Fist; hired Scott Buck who was the show-runner; cast Finn Jones and Jessica Henwick over (apparently more suitable, but older candidates, such as Ryan Phillippe and Maggie Q) to save on costs; didn't think it was necessary to show Kun-Lun and helped write the poor dialogue during filming. As for Inhumans; once again Perlmutter was the one pushing it, but the scheduling, casting, creative decisions, storyline and costs fell under the jurisdiction of Loeb, so once again, the blame can be directed equally towards him. The smartest thing Bob Iger could do is remove Perlmutter and Loeb from Marvel and put Feige in charge of the entire thing, where he could select managers for each of the components: one for Comics, one for TV. He would most likely course correct it by removing any plans for multiple shows, cancel any existing shows apart from Netflix and just focus on those shows, but slow down in terms of output, they're dwindling numbers and decline in quality is because its happening too quickly and its oversaturated. Audiences don't mind waiting for content if its good, Feige has proven that, the Marvel Netflix universe needs to take a step back and slow down, Inhumans and Agents of Shield (as good as it is) needs to die a quick death and things need to change very quickly.
+twelve11 Very well thought out reply, thank you for writing it all out. Learning new things everyday about Marvel TV. I have to look into Jeph Loeb some more, no doubt.
How could they go more wrong...cutting off Medusa's hair right off the bat? Taking away most of Black Bolt's day-to-day powers? (The guy is super-strong, and can FLY, among other things, the voice is a last resort), and messing up Karnak for no reason (he would NEVER misjudge a climbing hold!!).
I think some of the biggest reasons it failed was so many stupid moments in the show as if they didn't care. Like why does Black Bolt (the man that can destroy everything around him with a whisper) have a *TWO WAY* communicator?! And Lockjaw's teleportation was as if he had just been learning it and figuring it out even though they had him for *years*. And I won't get into what they did with Medusa but damn. If they didn't want to do or *couldn't* do the characters then they shouldn't have even bothered at all. It was like getting slapped in the face if you were a fan of the Inhumans and just dumb and cheap if you're just a casual Marvel TV/Movie fan.
They said if lockjaw was tired his teleporting would be spotty. But I do agree for most of the show I was actually rooting for maximus cuz the people you are supposed to be rooting for weren't likeble at all till the end and it's hard to find people likeable when they are basically forcing people to be slaves.
I guess the main reason we even got that great Agent Carter TV series is because Kevin Feige produced it! PRAISE HIM! Too bad the show got cancelled after its second season :'(
The Inhumans failed because it was born from a corporate mandate in which instead of trying to get the rights to X-Men back, Ike Perlmutter declared war on Fox and turned The Inhumans into something they ultimately weren't simply because they had a few similarities to the X-Men, and as a result, everyone hated it. If anything, this television series is ultimately going to be The Inhumans' legacy. We could have had something great and unlike anything before it, and instead, we get... a very confused product created as a result of a corporate executives revenge trip, and it just shows that nothing good comes out of revenge.
Under budget, and done quickly, no wonder all he does fails. he also clearly didn't know shit about Iron Fist, i liked it at first, then i saw it's flaws, Danny is made petty, dumb and overall unworthy of being The Iron Fist
Shawn Smith Jeph Loeb was also the guy who brought us Daredevil and Jessica Jones. On the other hand, Ike Perlmutter always wants cheap products, he wanted civil war to be cheap and that was the reason kevin Feige left, so why wouldn't he want Inhumans to be cheap? Producers like Jepb Loeb and Kevin Feige have to go to Ike Perlmutter to be granted his permission on any decision they make and he might disagree with them and order them otherwise just like he tried to do with kevin Feige and while Kevin Feige left, Jeph Loeb is still trapped.
If you want to go that route, then technically Perlmutter brought you Daredevil and Jessica Jones since he is Loeb's boss. Loeb had little to do with Daredevil or Jessica Jones other than an EP credit. Frankly he lost all credibility when he got defensive over criticism of Inhumans. If he can't accept that the show sucks then what hope do we have that he will learn not to do it again?
Funny watching this video in late 2021, where there is a real chance we will get Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio in Spider-Man, and the X-Men are coming to the MCU as well. What seems impossible at one time becomes inevitable.
I think it was wise of the MCU to give the inhumans the boot. They’re nowhere near as likable as the X-Men and I don’t think they ever will be. I don’t much like the idea of the X-Men in the MCU either tbh, I think they can survive well doing the more experimental stuff at Fox, and there’s enough content to make a stand-alone X-Men universe. The MCU on the other hand is already crowded enough as it is, and how are they going to introduce hundreds of mutants into an already established world? No thanks. I’d rather see 2 X-Men movies a year than 1 every 2-3 years
The Inhumans are interesting in Agents of SHIELD, it was the Inhumans series that screwed it all up. I'd love to see characters like Quake appear in the movies. With the appearance of the Skrulls in Captain Marvel hinting at a possible Secret Wars plot, characters like Quake and Yo-Yo/Slingshot getting a Secret Warriors movie somewhere down the line would be interesting As for Mutants in the MCU and how crowded it supposedly is, that point doesn't really make sense. Infinity war having so many characters in one go was more a one off, a huge event that took a lot of big name heroes working together after 10 years of set up to take down the biggest villain the MCU has seen to this point, and many of the original cast in the MCU are likely to be backing off a bit now as they've had their time to shine. It's the perfect time to introduce the mutants as we could see these new powered people emerging in a world that is used to the Avengers and see how it's handled here, as powered people aren't new. But yeah, the MCU isn't "crowded" it's got a lot of heroes but they do their own thing and handle their own problems, they might have references or cameos in other movies, but it's just because the universe is shared so it makes sense to at times have those links.
YES! I'm not alone! Multiple studios working on these mean more Marvel movies per year, which is awesome! Also, X-Men's Quicksilver is the best character ever and we're working toward the reveal of his parentage, while Age of Ultron's Quicksilver is significantly less (a) fast, (b) cool, and (c) alive. Also also, you'd have to deal with a question the comics have had a hard time answering for years: why does the world hate and fear mutants yet it's just fine with all the non-mutant supers? Scarlet Witch and Phoenix both do mind stuff, and can both become super dangerous if their powers increase beyond their ability to control them. The world is going to beg the former for autographs, yet try to murder the latter if even she just saved them. Not combining them limits crossover potential, yes, but with Hugh Jackman stepping down, we'll never see Wolverine and Captain America establish their comics relationship anyway, and with Spider-Man with Sony, they're unlikely to team up with him, either! The Inhumans debuted in the Fantastic Four, so they're a natural teamup that's now possible, but... watch the video above to see why that movie's unlikely now. :p So yeah, I see absolutely NOTHING to gain and a lot to lose by any heavily alterations or reboots to the X-Men just to pointlessly shoehorn them into the MCU.
They can be part of the MCU, but as part of the multiverse. So in a different universe. That way we can crossover once in a while, and the mutant controversy doesn't take up too much space
That's really too bad, with the 'taste' of inhumans that AoS gave us I was really hoping for the movie, then the Imax idea seemed incredible, but this is really sad.
Also, is this going to be a new series? Like TV shows and movies that turned out horrible and we see the problem in the production? That sounds awesome
Thanks for the video, I'm still gonna watch (never heard of them until the show announcement!) bc I want to see the trainwreck ha ha! Also, I like that you provided info on the production and team at Marvel, sigh...it's sad bc a cameo with Daredevil, Jessica and Luke would be really dope. I mean? They are efficient enough to help out on Earth and it'd make no sense why they wouldn't. The "Phase 2" of Netflix MCU should set up possibilities for the characters to mingle on the big screen.
I watched the first two episodes and I didn't think it was that bad. Just not good enough to show at the iMax. I can see how the show really needed a bigger budget. The costuming could have definitely been better. Every time I saw Gorgon, who has hooves, it just looked like he was just wearing hoof shoes someone roll-playing a furry would wear.
Yeah, well, I thought the series were too short, and the plot wasn't that complex... I wanted it to work too, but as you said, here we are... Heheh... God bless you, man!!
Ramsey will never be able to shake off his iconic role in game of thrones. Hopefully Anthony hopkins will take him under his wing to escape the typecasting trauma.
3 episodes in, and this is my review of it. It's not good, but it's not as awful as I expected. Marginally better than the DCW shows most of the time. (Extremely low bar, I know)
To be fair, only 3 people out of 1000 views (so far) noticed, and based on his track record, I don't think Loeb is blameless in this whole affair either :-P
I agree with overlaying X-men. If I can't make a movie about my own characters then I don't want anyone getting money from it. Inhumans require LOTS OF CGI. Because of that you can't show this on small screen. it has to be a movie or have budget more than GOT. We know how bad cgi can even in high budget movies (looking at you man of steel) This is also why Iron Fist failed (plus other reasons too such as bad acting storyline)
I remember this was the movie I was most excited about when I saw that first image with all the titles, then it just vanished, I didn't even know it had become a TV show until it was already airing, and I only heard about it because someone told me it was like watching Ramsay paying for all his sins
Honestly, the first time the Ila‘s eyes on this show, I actually enjoyed it. The storyline was amazing. I didn’t care that it was rushed. I was in it to see where this was going, and I was waiting for the biggest battle when they get back onto the moon but now, I cannot even watch it because it’s canceled. I really enjoyed watching this show and I honestly do not care what other people got to say about it. It was really good I enjoyed it I don’t care about nobody else and honestly I don’t really care about peoples opinions on the show or on a movie if I see the movie was good and I recommend it, even if it was trash, the storyline was amazing. You need to appreciate the hard work and dedication to these people that put the time in effort to make this project to where it’s at today
When the Inhumans movie was postponed indefinitely, I understood. The lead character doesn't talk (and usually doesn't emote much, literally the strong and silent type), the main characters are the ruling family of their society (so not much conflict in their situation), and the effects costs would be huge to do them right. Plus there wasn't much of a fan base. So I understood. Then they announced the TV series. Anson Mount is doing a great job with the Black Bolt, and I think the whole cast is doing well. But my favorite character is Medusa, because of her hair, and now the creators cut her hair to cut costs. They've put the family on Hawaii and split them up, so they can have some kind of conflict, but I'm not worried about them, they'll do fine. These people have powers capable of challenging galactic threats - the earthlings they encounter are not much of a danger. The Royal Family characters are fun, but they don't really work as lead characters in a story. They're normally pretty static. It would have been better if the showrunners had the Agents of Shield visit the Inhumans on the moon for a couple of episodes, and left it at that.
What’s worse is that this even affected the comics apparently Medusa had her hair cut off as well so essentially this show hurt the mainline stuff as well
Also I heard only a few scenes are shot with imax cameras, so occasionally you get jumping back and forth between high quality and noticeably worse quality
Great video, but you show video of Jeph Loeb while you're talking about Scott Buck. I just don't want a decent storyteller getting mixed up with a hack.
Honestly the show really isn't that bad. People like to bitch about the lack of "super powers," but the Inhumans really aren't about that. They're more based on character and political intrigue than rock em' sock em' action. As it's been called before, it's game of thrones in space with a little bit of Huxley's Brave New World thrown in. My only beef with the show so far is Maximus shouldn't have been able to cut MEdusa's hair with a regular razor, and it'd be nice if they didn't kill Triton in the first 15 minutes. Other than that it's a pretty decent Inhumans story.
I'm happy that Iron Fist is getting another go, I saw a lot of potential in that one, and already felt it getting better with Defenders. Not sure if they should do the same with Inhumans though. At least they jump started the property for the MCU and can come back to it when needed.
Good info!, i lost complete interest in the "Inhumans" as soon as i saw the first trailer, and thought something had to have gone really wrong during development. I guess now i know what the heck happened there. Hope the responsibles for this mess learn their lessons, and even tho i hope this doesn't ammount to a big loss of money for the company, it should hit them hard enough to make them realize rushed out, heartless projects, don't pay in the end.
The show had so much potential needed a movie budget and a mix of well known/rising actors and I expected cameos/Easter eggs from MCU characters like when black bolt’s voice destroyed the cop car and Lockjaw being seen this should of got SHIELD or the Avengers’ attention if it was all over the news
Okay, that makes the problems around Iron Fist make more sense. I remember cast members saying the production was rushed, especially the fight scenes which they were given very little rehearsal time for. I guess it's the producer's MO.
I just finished it, it wasnt that bad 🤷♂️ could have been alot more yeah, but i did like the characters, they deserved alot more. The actors saved alot of the show and i salut them.
I don’t want x men to be in mcu. It just wouldn’t work. I more want fantasising four in it because I think it would be more simple to pull of in such a large universe
I really want this show to continue even if the first season was bad but I hope they will have a second season with different writers and making the show better
A better question would: Did ANYTHING go right with inhumans? It should have been a big budget epic movie like a cross between Thor and star wars, but a huge concept like inhumans on TV? Doomed to failure.
I'll watch the show when it hits television just to see how bad it is. Who knows? I may feel it's so bad that it's fun to watch because of how bad it is. In that case, I'll watch it up until the inevitable cancellation.
Thought it started off well, but then, in the 1st episode people were thrown from their home, killed & had their powers taken away, WTF!!! I barely made it through 1st episode & didn't bother with rest
I feel so bad for all the Inhuman actors. And they seem really passionate about the show in interviews.
That's part of marketing. Actors are supposed to act really passionate about the show (or movie) to help sell it. Behind closed doors, however, they all may be talking to each other about how bad it is.
Gabriel360LIVE true
Sadly even with the best actors in the world, you can only polish a turd so much.
Anson Mount (black bolt) Is one of the greatest telovision actors of this generation. Just go watch him in Hell on Wheels. He was way too good for the show. It's a shame cause he would have made an amazing Moonknight.
KingOfMadCows I don't, they're pretty awful
What went wrong is that they thought they could put a whole race of diversely superpowered individuals who live on the moon in a tv series with the cheapest budget they could.
ddy 73 also why put people that live in the moon in Earth? That's what happens when you cheap something that it's supposed to have a big budget
ddy 73 yes
Yeah agreed, should have put much more money in it, its the MCU ffs!
Earth Fire Water I was wondering why the moon has trees itoo.
ddy 73 and they didn't hint that they will meet Quake
2:57 That aged well didn't it!
Disney needs to fire Perlmutter. Everything that has been a problem at Marvel was due to his cheapness and vindictiveness.
He was a suit in the toy business whose mindset has always been make it cheap and screw the competition.
That kind of mindset doesn't work in the billion dollar level Marvel is at now.
ROArecords2 FunFact: Permulter didn't want to even make CivilWar because he didn't want to pay so many Actors and RDJ
I agree with you there.
He's also the reason there wasn't a Black Widow movie, and didn't believe boys would buy female action figures.
thatHARVguy and the reason IM had such a shit villan, as originally the villan was MadamMask
Jesus Ramirez Romo And also for giving Shane Black the permission to fuck up Iron Man's archenemy, The Mandarin.
“We’ll likely never see any TV show heroes in the movies, sorry Daredevil” that statement has aged like milk from behind a radiator
It's interesting that the former head was against a Black Panther movie, considering how gangbusters it's been doing at the box office. So not only was he wrong about the Inhumans but also about Black Panther. Time will only tell how correct his predictions for Captain Marvel were but right now he's 0/2
Goes to show even Kevin feigie didn’t want to create a poor man’s X-men movie
Why is this Ike person employed?
I'm guessing that he did good work back when he had someone telling him what to do and making the rules.
I suppose he may still be vindicated when it comes to Captain Marvel. Wonder Woman is a well known cultural icon. Most people don't know who Captain Marvel is.
She's better known than Rocket Raccoon, and the Guardians of the Galaxy films seem to be doing okay! Also, people laughed at the idea of Ant-Man getting a movie until it happened, and was awesome, and the second one was even better! (Also, think of all the movies NOT based on well-known works. Everyone ever, as well as the entire premise, is unknown to ALL if it's an original work!) Also, think of all the movies starring high-profile characters that failed. Good writing can make Ant-Man draw sellout crowds; bad writing can keep us laughing our asses off at Batman and Robin 20 years later.
I have zero problem with never having the X-Men in the MCU. It never made sense to me that some people have powers and are treated like gods, while others are attacked for having them. It doesn't make any sense. That said, if they could ever work out a cross-universe single feature film, I'd have no problem with that.
We also wouldn't have gotten movies like Deadpool and Logan if the X-Men were at Marvel Studios
The sense is people born with powers are Mutants and people fear them, others that gain the powers other ways like Captain America, Spider-Man etc, people mainly love them... yeah there is a fine line. It don't help that a lot of Mutants are bad or just alien/monster looking too.
It makes perfect sense, spiderman is still a human (homo sapiens) wolverine is not, he is a mutant (homo superior)
Hulian Sells Sandals but both of those happened because of X-Men origins Wolverine which basically destroyed both characters. Also the Fantastic Four movies
Earth Fire Water maybe that was the reason for Deadpool, but Logan was made so he could have a proper send off
"Fox was NEVER going to give away the X-Men"
That line hasn't aged well in the last 3 months.
Disney bought all of Fox's entertainment assets, including the X-Men.
It's still technically correct. They're not *giving* them away.
Well, they weren’t. And they didn’t. Disney took the X-Men from Fox.
2:53-2:57 aged like a piece of cheese form 1756
Well (SPOILERS)
Anson Mount’s Black Bolt returned in Dr Strangers In The Multiverse Of Madness but they killed him off.
The Inhumans should've been The X Men having a child with Game Of Thrones...
How did they mess that up?!!
Very easily. Both of them had stellar writing that propelled them to household name status.
You can’t just churn out another cultural phenomenon like X-men or Game of Thrones. Not that it stops people trying.
In humans were game of thrones season 8 lol
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2:53 about that...
Great video, but you forget a crucial component: Jeph Loeb. He's the guy you showed when you mentioned Scott Buck. Where Perlmutter may be in charge, he's also a notorious recluse and really doesn't involve himself creatively; he just makes decisions, whereas Jeph Loeb is far more hands on when it comes to Marvel TV and he's equally, if not more responsible for the direction MARVEL TV is going: He's the one also pushing for the multiple series across different networks such as Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, the latter far more suited as a Netflix show, he demanded the rushed schedule for Iron Fist; hired Scott Buck who was the show-runner; cast Finn Jones and Jessica Henwick over (apparently more suitable, but older candidates, such as Ryan Phillippe and Maggie Q) to save on costs; didn't think it was necessary to show Kun-Lun and helped write the poor dialogue during filming. As for Inhumans; once again Perlmutter was the one pushing it, but the scheduling, casting, creative decisions, storyline and costs fell under the jurisdiction of Loeb, so once again, the blame can be directed equally towards him.
The smartest thing Bob Iger could do is remove Perlmutter and Loeb from Marvel and put Feige in charge of the entire thing, where he could select managers for each of the components: one for Comics, one for TV. He would most likely course correct it by removing any plans for multiple shows, cancel any existing shows apart from Netflix and just focus on those shows, but slow down in terms of output, they're dwindling numbers and decline in quality is because its happening too quickly and its oversaturated. Audiences don't mind waiting for content if its good, Feige has proven that, the Marvel Netflix universe needs to take a step back and slow down, Inhumans and Agents of Shield (as good as it is) needs to die a quick death and things need to change very quickly.
+twelve11 Very well thought out reply, thank you for writing it all out. Learning new things everyday about Marvel TV. I have to look into Jeph Loeb some more, no doubt.
twelve11 Why does AOS need to die?
I don’t watch it but I hear it’s gotten quite good and it has a pretty devoted fan base.
I agree on most of it, but Agents of Shield is great, and I think could stand to stay even if it's primarily stand alone.
How could they go more wrong...cutting off Medusa's hair right off the bat? Taking away most of Black Bolt's day-to-day powers? (The guy is super-strong, and can FLY, among other things, the voice is a last resort), and messing up Karnak for no reason (he would NEVER misjudge a climbing hold!!).
I gave up on the show as soon as they shaved Medusa's head.
0:40 few months later never say never.
I think some of the biggest reasons it failed was so many stupid moments in the show as if they didn't care.
Like why does Black Bolt (the man that can destroy everything around him with a whisper) have a *TWO WAY* communicator?!
And Lockjaw's teleportation was as if he had just been learning it and figuring it out even though they had him for *years*.
And I won't get into what they did with Medusa but damn. If they didn't want to do or *couldn't* do the characters then they shouldn't have even bothered at all.
It was like getting slapped in the face if you were a fan of the Inhumans and just dumb and cheap if you're just a casual Marvel TV/Movie fan.
DethGears I agree with all of your grips, that being said I still kinda liked the idea and execution of the show.
All that, and the royal family were every bit as villainous as the actual "bad guys," except for when they're worse!
They said if lockjaw was tired his teleporting would be spotty. But I do agree for most of the show I was actually rooting for maximus cuz the people you are supposed to be rooting for weren't likeble at all till the end and it's hard to find people likeable when they are basically forcing people to be slaves.
I guess the main reason we even got that great Agent Carter TV series is because Kevin Feige produced it!
PRAISE HIM!
Too bad the show got cancelled after its second season :'(
So because of Perlmutter, we likely won't even get Defenders cameos in Infinety War? God damn it, Perlmutter.
Well if you think about it this way, you wouldnt even have the defenders or any of the preceding shows without him.
@@mamodokod stfu
The Inhumans failed because it was born from a corporate mandate in which instead of trying to get the rights to X-Men back, Ike Perlmutter declared war on Fox and turned The Inhumans into something they ultimately weren't simply because they had a few similarities to the X-Men, and as a result, everyone hated it.
If anything, this television series is ultimately going to be The Inhumans' legacy. We could have had something great and unlike anything before it, and instead, we get... a very confused product created as a result of a corporate executives revenge trip, and it just shows that nothing good comes out of revenge.
Under budget, and done quickly, no wonder all he does fails. he also clearly didn't know shit about Iron Fist, i liked it at first, then i saw it's flaws, Danny is made petty, dumb and overall unworthy of being The Iron Fist
TheSpawnfan he was made a joke in defenders
Cutshort: We most likely won’t see any television heroes come to the movies. Sorry, Daredevil.
No Way Home: I missed the part where that’s my problem.
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It worked I found it
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Unbelievable that you only have 9k subs deserve alot more bro 👏
Yeah, seriously. Voice is good, cadence is good, editing is great. I'm pushing this channel up the ladder.
*says scott buck*
*shows a clip of Jeph Loeb*
Dude. do some research.
Cutshort plz be more careful next time, it wasn't Scott buck you show but Jeph loeb. And yes scott buck is to blame :P
Loeb and Perlmutter are equally to blame. Buck doesn't have free reign. He reports to people.
Shawn Smith Jeph Loeb was also the guy who brought us Daredevil and Jessica Jones. On the other hand, Ike Perlmutter always wants cheap products, he wanted civil war to be cheap and that was the reason kevin Feige left, so why wouldn't he want Inhumans to be cheap? Producers like Jepb Loeb and Kevin Feige have to go to Ike Perlmutter to be granted his permission on any decision they make and he might disagree with them and order them otherwise just like he tried to do with kevin Feige and while Kevin Feige left, Jeph Loeb is still trapped.
If you want to go that route, then technically Perlmutter brought you Daredevil and Jessica Jones since he is Loeb's boss. Loeb had little to do with Daredevil or Jessica Jones other than an EP credit. Frankly he lost all credibility when he got defensive over criticism of Inhumans. If he can't accept that the show sucks then what hope do we have that he will learn not to do it again?
Jeph Loeb, writer of some good comics but only when Tim Sale draws them and Marvel TV exec. Very notably not Scott Buck
I can see this channel hitting a million one day
I really like this channel, keep up the great work!
Dayum
That's messed up but understandable
I atleast hope the Inhumans gets better as the show goes on
Daniel Murillo I think the series is cancelled they may make appearances in AoS
Arachnid Comics it got cancelled unsurprisingly.
What went wrong.... EVERYTHING!
Black Bolt had the best dialogue of this show by far.
Funny watching this video in late 2021, where there is a real chance we will get Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio in Spider-Man, and the X-Men are coming to the MCU as well. What seems impossible at one time becomes inevitable.
dude. discovered your channel today...love your stuff!
I do not care what ppl say
I'm kinda glad this took the hit for Marvel. Just allow the next season of AoS to be the greatest thing ever and everything will be ok.
What’s aos
@@nicoleschaden8030 Agents of S.h.i.e.l.d. and I was wrong. This last season better have a mind blowing conclusion because I am not impressed.
Great production and commentary my man. Keep it up. You have one More subscriber and I can't wait to see more.
I love this TH-cam channel because it’s actually pretty good
‘fox will never give up the xmen’ that aged well
I think it was wise of the MCU to give the inhumans the boot. They’re nowhere near as likable as the X-Men and I don’t think they ever will be. I don’t much like the idea of the X-Men in the MCU either tbh, I think they can survive well doing the more experimental stuff at Fox, and there’s enough content to make a stand-alone X-Men universe. The MCU on the other hand is already crowded enough as it is, and how are they going to introduce hundreds of mutants into an already established world? No thanks. I’d rather see 2 X-Men movies a year than 1 every 2-3 years
Hunter C They would have made them likeable, nobody cared about Iron man until he got a movie
The Inhumans are interesting in Agents of SHIELD, it was the Inhumans series that screwed it all up. I'd love to see characters like Quake appear in the movies. With the appearance of the Skrulls in Captain Marvel hinting at a possible Secret Wars plot, characters like Quake and Yo-Yo/Slingshot getting a Secret Warriors movie somewhere down the line would be interesting
As for Mutants in the MCU and how crowded it supposedly is, that point doesn't really make sense. Infinity war having so many characters in one go was more a one off, a huge event that took a lot of big name heroes working together after 10 years of set up to take down the biggest villain the MCU has seen to this point, and many of the original cast in the MCU are likely to be backing off a bit now as they've had their time to shine. It's the perfect time to introduce the mutants as we could see these new powered people emerging in a world that is used to the Avengers and see how it's handled here, as powered people aren't new. But yeah, the MCU isn't "crowded" it's got a lot of heroes but they do their own thing and handle their own problems, they might have references or cameos in other movies, but it's just because the universe is shared so it makes sense to at times have those links.
YES! I'm not alone! Multiple studios working on these mean more Marvel movies per year, which is awesome! Also, X-Men's Quicksilver is the best character ever and we're working toward the reveal of his parentage, while Age of Ultron's Quicksilver is significantly less (a) fast, (b) cool, and (c) alive. Also also, you'd have to deal with a question the comics have had a hard time answering for years: why does the world hate and fear mutants yet it's just fine with all the non-mutant supers? Scarlet Witch and Phoenix both do mind stuff, and can both become super dangerous if their powers increase beyond their ability to control them. The world is going to beg the former for autographs, yet try to murder the latter if even she just saved them. Not combining them limits crossover potential, yes, but with Hugh Jackman stepping down, we'll never see Wolverine and Captain America establish their comics relationship anyway, and with Spider-Man with Sony, they're unlikely to team up with him, either! The Inhumans debuted in the Fantastic Four, so they're a natural teamup that's now possible, but... watch the video above to see why that movie's unlikely now. :p So yeah, I see absolutely NOTHING to gain and a lot to lose by any heavily alterations or reboots to the X-Men just to pointlessly shoehorn them into the MCU.
They can be part of the MCU, but as part of the multiverse. So in a different universe. That way we can crossover once in a while, and the mutant controversy doesn't take up too much space
Gosh, imagine Feige's version of the Inhumans *movie.* I think that would be amazing.
This show was really disappointing after Agents of SHIELD handled Ghost Rider perfectly and turned out a product with excellent effects and story
That's really too bad, with the 'taste' of inhumans that AoS gave us I was really hoping for the movie, then the Imax idea seemed incredible, but this is really sad.
Showing something on a TV budget on IMAX was always going to turn out bad, with such a big format it turns out the inadequacies up to eleven
3:38 Not sure if it was intentional, but you showed Jeph Loeb in the video when you were mentioning Scott Buck, as if you mixed up the two.
Stealthabotte Both are at fault.
Leaving a like because you deserve more subs
Also, is this going to be a new series? Like TV shows and movies that turned out horrible and we see the problem in the production? That sounds awesome
+Earth Fire Water Currently it has no plans for being a new series, this one is just a one off. But maybe that'll change in the future!
Is this not cannon anymore?
Thanks for the video, I'm still gonna watch (never heard of them until the show announcement!) bc I want to see the trainwreck ha ha! Also, I like that you provided info on the production and team at Marvel, sigh...it's sad bc a cameo with Daredevil, Jessica and Luke would be really dope. I mean? They are efficient enough to help out on Earth and it'd make no sense why they wouldn't. The "Phase 2" of Netflix MCU should set up possibilities for the characters to mingle on the big screen.
That's unfortunate, especially for the fans. I actually haven't seen the show. Wht were your thoughts on The Defenders?
I would soo Love to See Daredevil on the Big Screen that would be sick!!
I watched the first two episodes and I didn't think it was that bad. Just not good enough to show at the iMax. I can see how the show really needed a bigger budget. The costuming could have definitely been better. Every time I saw Gorgon, who has hooves, it just looked like he was just wearing hoof shoes someone roll-playing a furry would wear.
Yeah, well, I thought the series were too short, and the plot wasn't that complex... I wanted it to work too, but as you said, here we are... Heheh... God bless you, man!!
Ramsey will never be able to shake off his iconic role in game of thrones. Hopefully Anthony hopkins will take him under his wing to escape the typecasting trauma.
3 episodes in, and this is my review of it. It's not good, but it's not as awful as I expected. Marginally better than the DCW shows most of the time. (Extremely low bar, I know)
I'm sorry to nitpick, but when you mentioned Scott Buck you showed a clip of Jeff Loeb
+Spectrum Oh not nitpicking at all! Can't believe I let that one slide through in editing, thanks for letting me know!
To be fair, only 3 people out of 1000 views (so far) noticed, and based on his track record, I don't think Loeb is blameless in this whole affair either :-P
3 people commenting does not mean only 3 people noticed.
Loeb is just a producer, not a showrunner soooooooooooo
With the X-Men now under Marvel Studios I wonder if they'll ever have any use for the Inhumans?
Shit I already knew this was going to flop when they first photo came out.
I agree with overlaying X-men. If I can't make a movie about my own characters then I don't want anyone getting money from it. Inhumans require LOTS OF CGI. Because of that you can't show this on small screen. it has to be a movie or have budget more than GOT. We know how bad cgi can even in high budget movies (looking at you man of steel) This is also why Iron Fist failed (plus other reasons too such as bad acting storyline)
I liked this show. It wasn't great, but it was fun to watch, and had some interesting sub-plots.
Yeah I agree
I remember this was the movie I was most excited about when I saw that first image with all the titles, then it just vanished, I didn't even know it had become a TV show until it was already airing, and I only heard about it because someone told me it was like watching Ramsay paying for all his sins
Thank god Pearlmutter is gone
Honestly, the first time the Ila‘s eyes on this show, I actually enjoyed it. The storyline was amazing. I didn’t care that it was rushed. I was in it to see where this was going, and I was waiting for the biggest battle when they get back onto the moon but now, I cannot even watch it because it’s canceled. I really enjoyed watching this show and I honestly do not care what other people got to say about it. It was really good I enjoyed it I don’t care about nobody else and honestly I don’t really care about peoples opinions on the show or on a movie if I see the movie was good and I recommend it, even if it was trash, the storyline was amazing. You need to appreciate the hard work and dedication to these people that put the time in effort to make this project to where it’s at today
Man the days of when fox owned the x-mens
reminded me of when i went to fan4stic on opening night, and there were only 7 people.
Great video!
With Disney most likely buying Fox, I wonder if the merger will rightfully kill Perlmutter's career at Marvel.
When the Inhumans movie was postponed indefinitely, I understood. The lead character doesn't talk (and usually doesn't emote much, literally the strong and silent type), the main characters are the ruling family of their society (so not much conflict in their situation), and the effects costs would be huge to do them right. Plus there wasn't much of a fan base. So I understood. Then they announced the TV series.
Anson Mount is doing a great job with the Black Bolt, and I think the whole cast is doing well. But my favorite character is Medusa, because of her hair, and now the creators cut her hair to cut costs. They've put the family on Hawaii and split them up, so they can have some kind of conflict, but I'm not worried about them, they'll do fine. These people have powers capable of challenging galactic threats - the earthlings they encounter are not much of a danger.
The Royal Family characters are fun, but they don't really work as lead characters in a story. They're normally pretty static. It would have been better if the showrunners had the Agents of Shield visit the Inhumans on the moon for a couple of episodes, and left it at that.
What’s worse is that this even affected the comics apparently Medusa had her hair cut off as well so essentially this show hurt the mainline stuff as well
You should do the cancelled Damage control show they were going to do if they had any details
Also I heard only a few scenes are shot with imax cameras, so occasionally you get jumping back and forth between high quality and noticeably worse quality
I don’t understand why it gets so much hate
I really wanted to see The Inhumans in IMAX...but it was gone before I could get to it...I still very much want to see ti in IMAX.
Great video, but you show video of Jeph Loeb while you're talking about Scott Buck. I just don't want a decent storyteller getting mixed up with a hack.
Honestly the show really isn't that bad. People like to bitch about the lack of "super powers," but the Inhumans really aren't about that. They're more based on character and political intrigue than rock em' sock em' action. As it's been called before, it's game of thrones in space with a little bit of Huxley's Brave New World thrown in. My only beef with the show so far is Maximus shouldn't have been able to cut MEdusa's hair with a regular razor, and it'd be nice if they didn't kill Triton in the first 15 minutes. Other than that it's a pretty decent Inhumans story.
Thank you! I feel the same way. I really like the show. I don't understand all the hate.
They should have used that 80 million budget for 1 2hr movie or at least a tv movie.
I like Inhumans. I’m very interested about this show.
Where did the $80 million go?
Shenyongo The Dragon Slayer; The answer is simple: Cocaine!!
Shenyongo The Dragon Slayer in the carbage can
Adrian Lemus or that
IMAX Cameras
Ooooor, who knows, maybe, just maybe they blew the budget in the finalie or something
and 4 years later, daredevil is in the new spiderman movie. how far we've come :')
I'm happy that Iron Fist is getting another go, I saw a lot of potential in that one, and already felt it getting better with Defenders. Not sure if they should do the same with Inhumans though. At least they jump started the property for the MCU and can come back to it when needed.
"Fox would never give up the xmen"
and here we are now
I just finished watching the whole series on Disney Plus.....the criticisms are correct. Downsizing this from a theatrical feature was a huge mistake.
Good info!, i lost complete interest in the "Inhumans" as soon as i saw the first trailer, and thought something had to have gone really wrong during development. I guess now i know what the heck happened there.
Hope the responsibles for this mess learn their lessons, and even tho i hope this doesn't ammount to a big loss of money for the company, it should hit them hard enough to make them realize rushed out, heartless projects, don't pay in the end.
The show had so much potential needed a movie budget and a mix of well known/rising actors and I expected cameos/Easter eggs from MCU characters like when black bolt’s voice destroyed the cop car and Lockjaw being seen this should of got SHIELD or the Avengers’ attention if it was all over the news
Black Bolt definitely in my top 3 favorite marvel characters. I hope they ll be in movies one day
I was in the theater ALONE for this
Okay, that makes the problems around Iron Fist make more sense. I remember cast members saying the production was rushed, especially the fight scenes which they were given very little rehearsal time for. I guess it's the producer's MO.
“The same basic storyline?” Hardly!!
I just finished it, it wasnt that bad 🤷♂️ could have been alot more yeah, but i did like the characters, they deserved alot more. The actors saved alot of the show and i salut them.
I saw this opening night and was the only one in the theater
I just watched the show and it's actually good
I don’t want x men to be in mcu. It just wouldn’t work. I more want fantasising four in it because I think it would be more simple to pull of in such a large universe
The show was incredible to me
This a bit funny in hindsight now, considering Marvel bought out Fox studios last December and now Marvel has the X-men back.
Watching the Inhumans was like watching Nikelodeon.
I really want this show to continue even if the first season was bad but I hope they will have a second season with different writers and making the show better
A better question would:
Did ANYTHING go right with inhumans? It should have been a big budget epic movie like a cross between Thor and star wars, but a huge concept like inhumans on TV? Doomed to failure.
I'll watch the show when it hits television just to see how bad it is. Who knows? I may feel it's so bad that it's fun to watch because of how bad it is. In that case, I'll watch it up until the inevitable cancellation.
After watching this video I can't help but wonder... Was this guy the reason the X-Men were absent from MvC: infinity?
Thought it started off well, but then, in the 1st episode people were thrown from their home, killed & had their powers taken away, WTF!!! I barely made it through 1st episode & didn't bother with rest
Don’t even need to watch this. The answer: everything.
I haven't watched this show. Might one day but not right now.
The royalty free background music is too loud and intrusive
The vhs start clicking sound affects are a bit too intrusive
Thanks for (I guess) the real reason it sucked so bad. I love your behind-the-scenes vlogs...keep it up
Scott bucks probably know some hollywood secret for him to keep gettin high profile work.
Demoth He is the Brett Ratner of the MCU. Both are known to fuck up stories and characters just to rush the project within budget and on time.