Lyndon Johnson - Report on the Gulf of Tonkin Incident
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President Johnson reports to Congress and the American people on the now infamous Gulf of Tonkin incident, which had occurred off the coast of Vietnam.
August 4th, 1964
4:10 This part of the speech is in the theme of Battlefield Vietnam. :D
How are you GI Joe?
+TheJMascis666 It seems to me that most of you are fully uninformed of the going of the war
+123Bosniak To say nothing about a correct explanation of your presence over here.
Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die
I love you
Gulf of Tonkin 1964= WMD 2003
You can add "Babies in incubators" 1990.
Gulf War 1 was clearly justified , we had to destroy suddam offensive capabilities and we did. Suddam invaded Kuwait in 1990 there is nothing disputing that, unlike how we later found the gulf of tonkin and wmd intelligence was wrong.
"We" had no problem with Saddam's offensive capabilities when he was fighting Iran. "We" gave him those capabilities.
and maybe two Saudi Tankers in the Persian Gulf let's hope we can get out in front of this
@@clearcoat2000 Afghanistan 2021
The captain of the Maddox, John Herrick, sent the following message to Washington soon after it occurred: "Review of action makes many reported contacts and torpedoes fired appear doubtful. Freak weather effects on radar and overeager sonar men may have accounted for many reports. No actual visual sightings by Maddox. Suggest complete evaluation before any further action taken" (Moise, 1996).
Don't vote for Goldwater they said. He'd escalate the war in Vietnam they said
They used the same line on Trump.
Now we are closer to ww3 since the Cuban missle crisis under Brandon
It's like he can't decide which mic to talk into.
He was drunk alot of times
This was presented on the television live, radio and in the newspapers.
In his speech to Congress the next day, he left out "There were no US losses." at 1:18
google: Finding the Gulf of Tonkin
Australia had ground troops in Vietnam at about the same time, ~1962. The British Commonwealth and the US and other nations were in this together.
His lips are moving. He's lying!
Of course he is
We went to war "In support of freedom and in defense of peace". Yeah.
4:10
Battlefield Vietnam!
RoundenBrown memories
When politicians talk about "unprovoked" and "mission of peace", the wise citizen knows they are lying.
All of this a little over a month after Johnson got an N.I.E. (National intelligence Estimate) from the NSA stating that the South Vietnamese army would NEVER be an effective fighting force against the insurgency, no matter what we did for them. He showed the N.I.E. to Senator Richard Russell from Georgia, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Russell said, "I fear nothing but catastrophe for my country if we get involved." Johnson asked Russell what he should do. "Get out" replied Russell, "and do it quickly." In other words, do what Kennedy was planning to do.
William Fulbright, not Richard Russell, was Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Russell was chair of tge Armed Services Committee.
"It's mission is peace" ? If there is a hell, I bet he's hearing those last words of that speech echo for ever.
conclusion; he lied.
Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara wanted to retaliate, and while they did not completely lie to the American people, they selected the evidence to make the best case for war. The result was the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, passed in the House by 416 - 0 and in the Senate by 88 - 2. It granted the president the authority to "take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression" in Southeast Asia (Williams, 1989).
What was the purpose of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution and was it achieved?
Why he gotta lie
Good news. This video is now on page 2 of Google's links to "Gulf of Tonkin".
"There were no US losses."
4:10 battlefield vietnam
By firmness he means arrogance. Arrogance replaces reality.
This is to reminiscent of Bush annoucing his war on terror post 9-11
Only if you never listened to Bush's speech at the beginning of the build up for the invasion of Iraq.
The most boring president in our times. His slow tic-tok motion is hypnotic.
Tell this to PFC Frank Carl Suvara DIA 1967..remember him ,age 19
History repeats its self and people see it through like a dumb duck
Hey everyone, does anyone know what Johnson's argument for the escalation of the war in Vietnam after the Tonkin incident was?. and how does the speech reflect a Cold Wars logic?
Supposly to stop the spread of communism it wasn't worth it
More than that. That number is just for the military. Think of all of the innocent people that died because of this.
The Viet Cong murdered 10,000 civilian residents of Hue during the Tet Offensive in 1968. Never forget that. That kind of terrorism had been going on for years in South Vietnam.
Resolution of Congress needed
@beatles1000
Maddox was conducting a DESOTO Intelligence gathering mission at the time of the first attack yes, but it was far enough off the coast to be in international waters, in the first attack, possibly because of the confusion during caused by the raid the North Vietnamese misread their radar and thought the Maddox was closer to the coast then she was
They took the Mets-Giants game off the air for this?
Amazing and disturbing what the majority of people will do as pretexts to power or methods of holding onto said power.
Which backfired because nobody wanted war
Interesting to note the only 'Name' used in the entire speech was Senator Goldwater? No vessel names , no names of Commanders of the US ships involved? No mention of North Vietnamese survivors? No mention of Battle Group involved? Way too Fishy for me.
I think you must be deaf. Pretty much all those were mentioned by name.
nothing has changed
How are you G I Joe?
That's funny because the mentioned of "air action" at time 1:56 was recommended by Bob McNamara and Admiral Sharpe to be deleted. Here is the link to the conversation about the speech between LBJ and Bob McNamara. Check out tape wh6408_06_4717_mcnamara.mp3
@snakes3425 I agree with you, there were two separate incidents. The reason I say say it was a lie is because the Maddox was not on a routine patrol, it was on a spying mission. The South vietnamese were attacking two small islands of the coast of N. Vietnam and the Maddox was in the area to pick up radio signals from the attack
That is the only skill required for being an excellent politician.
you lied LBJ.
"That lying son of a bitch Johnson". Quote from Forest Gump.
Forrest Gump is a fictional character.
Sounds like WMD in Iraq
My fellow Americans: - As President and Commander in Chief, it is my duty to the American people to report that renewed hostile actions against United States ships on the high seas in the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me to order the military forces of the United States to take action in reply.
The initial attack on the destroyer Maddox, on August 2, was repeated today by a number of hostile vessels attacking two U.S. destroyers with torpedoes. The destroyers and supporting aircraft acted at once on the orders I gave after the initial act of aggression. We believe at least two of the attacking boats were sunk. There were no U.S. losses.
The performance of commanders and crews in this engagement is in the highest tradition of the United States Navy. But repeated acts of violence against the Armed Forces of the United States must be met not only with alert defense, but with positive reply. That reply is being given as I speak to you tonight. Air action is now in execution against gunboats and certain supporting facilities in North Viet-Nam which have been used in these hostile operations.
In the larger sense this new act of aggression, aimed directly at our own forces, again brings home to all of us in the United States the importance of the struggle for peace and security in southeast Asia. Aggression by terror against the peaceful villagers of South Viet-Nam has now been joined by open aggression on the high seas against the United States of America.
The determination of all Americans to carry out our full commitment to the people and to the government of South Viet-Nam will be redoubled by this outrage. Yet our response, for the present, will be limited and fitting. We Americans know, although others appear to forget, the risks of spreading conflict. We still seek no wider war.
I have instructed the Secretary of State to make this position totally clear to friends and to adversaries and, indeed, to all. I have instructed Ambassador Stevenson to raise this matter immediately and urgently before the Security Council of the United Nations. Finally, I have today met with the leaders of both parties in the Congress of the United States and I have informed them that I shall immediately request the Congress to pass a resolution making it clear that our Government is united in its determination to take all necessary measures in support of freedom and in defense of peace in southeast Asia.
I have been given encouraging assurance by these leaders of both parties that such a resolution will be promptly introduced, freely and expeditiously debated, and passed with overwhelming support. And just a few minutes ago I was able to reach Senator Goldwater and I am glad to say that he has expressed his support of the statement that I am making to you tonight.
It is a solemn responsibility to have to order even limited military action by forces whose overall strength is as vast and as awesome as those of the United States of America, but it is my considered conviction, shared throughout your Government, that firmness in the right is indispensable today for peace; that firmness will always be measured. Its mission is peace.
ty so much
*Battlefield Vietnam brought me here* 🌴🤙🙌
doing his master's bidding who live in the shadows
Yep
What are their names?
He was just the puppet, the front.
Both the August 2 and the August 4, 1964 "attacks" had no casualties and no damages. McNamara claimed the August 2 allegation was true, took that to his grave.
It's a FACT on August 2nd, the U.S naval ship USS MMaddox was attacked by North Vietnamese.. The second attack in the Gulf of Tonkin was unconfirmed.
The second was just a radar malfunction. sorry I'm late.
+Victor Villari The ship was attacked by US pilots flying MIGS so we could have an excuse to bomb the North.
@arttoegemann and front page of the New York Times August 5: "no casualties, no damage" the Pentagon.
In fact, the incident never happened in 1964. This was a false story that paved way for president Johnson to bring US forces to Vietnam. Mc Namara himself had recognized that.fact. It was the reason why the US ordered generals of South Vietnamese army to kill their civil president Ngo Dinh Diem.
Unfortunately, the incident started the Vietnam war that cost 50,000 US soldiers and 1.5 million Vietnamese people. The worse was that it gave China oppotunity to itake over 80% of Vietnam's sea water.
The war in Vietnam did not start in 1964. The war had been going on since the early 1950s or before.
@@GradyPhilpottU.S. basic infantry didn’t start until 1965 because of this report it started with them fighting the French who had colonized them in the past and then had a civil war later which we got involved in
@@wyattnyfeler7270 Thank you, but I already knew that. The first combat troops arrived in April 1965, which was the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade. I enlisted in 1967, arrived in Vietnam in 1968 and was wounded in 1969, sufficiently to be medevacked to the Japan and then back to the States. SF
google: finding the Gulf of Tonkin
everyone always knew
The consolation for all the victims of this lie is that LBJ is surely in hell right now.
I sure hope so.
@@Defiant1376 Wherever he is I hope he's suffering because of the idiotic way he and McNamara prosecuted the war and also for his disastrous Great Society initiative.
interesting. How did BV lead you here?
@beatles1000
There were two incidents, the first one was genuine, the second only happened because the Turner Joy's radar and sonar malfunctioned due to heavy weather. Apparently Gulf of Tonkin Incidents didn't carry the same wait as saying both were one single attack
@Subaangen I remember the "Domino theory" for Southeast Asia. Once U.S. was out that did'nt happen. Look at Vietnam today, a growing economic country.
The scare tatics have'nt changed for going to war, such a waste!
Ever hear of Cambodia or Laos? I personally know Vietnamese who live in the States and visit Vietnam and they have nothing good to say about that country. If it were not for family, they would never go. Do you remember the massive boat-lift after the North overran the South. Do you ever wonder why those people wanted to get out of Vietnam so bad? Was it because they love Communism?
4:10 - 4:24 battlefield Vietnam
If the North Vietnamese had attacked any US WMD, in any one of the American Cities, even Hawaii (which is a bit of a stretch), I would have no problem with attacking the North. But as usual America is always where it should not be, in someone else's country!
You are woefully ignorant of history, which is because you have been taught be Communists all your life.
At least Hitler wasn't a borish speaker...
@@davegeisler7802 The only drugs that Decreased in the 60s were sleeping pills. All you had to do was turn on the radio and listen to this war-loving jerk off of a so-called "president"
Both incidents happened because the radar malfuntioned. In the first incident the North Vietnamese radar malfunctioned in the second incident the US radar and sonar malfuctinoned
I think he's talking about the Vietnamese people.
@sgtdanny69148 I never realised it was the president, of that time, saying that.
1.5 million of my people over a lie
4:09 - Thumbs up if Battlefield Vietnam brought you here.
gotta ask, what were the destroyers doing so far from an American port? I'd be provoked too if my neighbour who has shown previous adversion to my descisions were parading around in my yard with an AK14
mission of peace my ass
I have the documents
So Now What If WW2 General George Patton Were Still Alive During This Particular Time Period Of 1964 And If He Hadn’t Been Killed From His Injuries In That Car Crash In December 1945 And Exactly What Would He Have Thought Or Even Said Of Lyndon B. Johnson As The President Of The United States And During His Handling Of The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident And The Eventual War In Vietnam And Even Including The Tet Offensive Of 1968 And Also How Would Patton Have Viewed The Image Of The Soviet Backing Of North Vietnam And It’s NVA Military Forces And The Vietcong Engaging In Battle With US Forces By That Point In Time ????
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He probably would have said, "I told you so."
Even if this were true, why would we declare a large scale involvement on a country that poses no threat to us at home? Same thing with 9/11, we should have got with our allies and go from there on what truly needs to be done.
The threat of Communist expansion was global and it still is.
His rocking from side to side is making me seasick!
It looks like a tell: ....... he knows he is fabricating a pretext.
But back then it seems as if he really felt he needed to convince the Nation: There was a draft after all, whereas today; everyone knows they make up reasons to go to War. Everyone know the Iraq WMD, al quaeda links, aluminum tubes, mobile weapons labs, yellowcake etc was pure bunk............. it is now taken for granted that politicians will lie us into War. I would go further even and say it is now taken for granted that politicians are not acting in the best interest of the Country but instead just lining their pockets. But without a draft; it is much easier for them to get away with it.
Also it doesn't help that all these chickenhawk war profiteers are imcompetent......... so they wind up being financial black holes and just utter quagmires...... but many people and companies make a ton of money, and no one is ever held accountable, So it will happen again
War is a racket.
LBJ went from a net worth of 1 million dollars before being president to 100 million when he died.
4:11 that’s what’s in white rabbit Vietnam. Ersoin
Vietnam the last real war.
That's not a fair assessment.
operation wondering soul , look it up
2020
We all make mistakes.
lol
This mistake cost lives
This "mistake" killed 60k of America's finest and 2.5 million Southeast Asians.
gotten*
I have read only a few, under 500.
You mean the UK was tied up in the Suez?
Liar
@elyssa5656 PRATT
Its always us and them. What about the 100000s of civilians killed in those countries?
@sgtdanny69148 Yes
YOU HAD KENNEDY KILLED BUNGHOLE
4:10
Why is he swaying so much? He's making me giddie.
The Southeast Asia Treaty is the reason why so many countries were involved in Vietnam. The Gulf of Tonkin incidents were simply catalysts to expand US operations that started in the 1950s. Whatever happened in the Gulf of Tonkin, it was reason enough to engage North Vietnam on the ground in South Vietnam, which was a signatory and a member of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization. I'm proud to have been a combatant in the war in Vietnam in 1968 and 1969 with the United States Marine Corps.
@sgtdanny69148 how are you gi joe ?
it seems to me that youre poorly informed about to going at the war.
nothing is more confused that to be ordered into a war to die
Too bad it was all a lie!!
@@davegeisler7802 could not agree with you more. Hope it’s nice and HOT where McNamara is now.
George Ball tried to warn Johnson but he wouldn’t listen. Even Clark Clifford tried behind the scene to warn his friend. He chose to listen to McNamara
it's a conspiracy man
silly me, I thought it was about MONEY and POWER
Battlefield vietnam 4:11
Someone should make a compilation video of all the bold face lies told by US Presidents to justify their wars.
Facts Bro
The North Vietnamese were only defending their territorial waters. MADDOX was spying on them and sending Special Forces ashore as well.
WE started the 'aggression', not them.
Having said this, I still believe that if we had gone all-out with this war, like we should have with Iraq, we could have won both conflicts rather easily. The problem in each case was a lack of commitment, troops, & clear-thinking strategy.
Both wars were improperly begun. But we could have won both anyway.
I will remind you that the war in Vietnam was not started by the US. It had been ongoing for years, if not decades.
Amurica.
where are is relatives? swiming in cash?
2:47 MURICA
Lies and the lying liars that tell them. Not joking st LBJ in this instance but every POTUS.
it was a way to fight russia
SONS A BITCHES
i'm embarresed to be ameican
Don't be. We've all been had by these SOBs.
@@davegeisler7802 Yep. WW2 80 million Christians perished. They made the greatest "sacrifice".
@@davegeisler7802 You'll see a pattern. The "banker's count the cost in profits. Christians in lives lost.
LIE
Trump comesto mind
So, what war did Trump get the US involved in?
Lies ...all lies
This is to reminiscent of Bush annoucing his war on terror post 9-11
It isn't.