How to replace the front shocks or struts assembly replacement, Volvo 850, S70, V70, etc. - VOTD
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- Strut assembly replacement: 1-1/2 to 2 hours ($300 / $480 / $800)
This video show assembly replacement with a salvaged unit. You can get new units from some auto parts suppliers, most people get units from Amazon (Gabriels). This video was filmed on a Volvo 850 but the process is the same for most vehicles.
Installed these used struts at 302,600, removed at 365,300 with another used set received from a viewer (suppose to have about 20,000 miles on the new used ones).
TORQUE VALUES:
Spring seat - 53 ft lbs.
Strut mount bolt - 53 ft lbs.
Top assembly 3 bolts, strut mount to frame - 19 ft lbs.
Strut to steering knuckle - 49 ft lbs. plus 90 degrees.
Sway bar end link - 38 ft lbs.
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you're the only one to post these diy videos on v70, s70, 850 and im truly greatful, thank you!
you are welcome.
This was a very clear Instructional video with superb concise step by step instructions!!! Robert you have saved me thousands of dollars in labor rates from the "Stealerships" over the last 12 months. Thank you brother.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
I installed those yellow Bilstein HD shocks and struts on my 96 Volvo 850T5 sedan around 10 years ago. They are made well, but my wife summed it up quite well when I installed them" the car feels like a horse carriage on the back roads of Romania". I thought they are way too harsh for a common daily driver. They handle well through turns and would be great on the track. After 10 years they aren't leaking and just as stiff as when new. So they are made very well. I have a order in for Sachs and will be restoring my 850 back to the original comfy ride. Excellent videos Robert, we are very lucky to have you in the Volvo community.
+PAUL MACZ she would know. Lol, the B4 Bilstein's are probably better fit for city driving where the streets are very patchy for repairs. I recently I stalled them on our daughter's S70. B6 = HD, B4 = Touring. How many miles do you think are on your B6's?
Haha.. this is so fun! Last 6 months or so, every thing we've needed done on our 855 T5, you've made a video on either just before or after we've done the same thing =D Great video as always!
LOL, we'll all make the rounds.
+Robert DIY This is a good video.. Well done.
Nice junk yard find on those Bilsteins!
+Rod R Thanks. It took a while. I have dashed into probably 20 junk yards looking. lol
Just bought a 97 850 2.4 turbo, replaced the starter and battery while watching your videos!
Thank you
you are welcome.
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Robert, thank you for all your videos. They are very useful. It is a pity that I did not speak English and use a translator. Yet the essence of the work is clear. Your video can save a lot of money on the service for you is another thank you! ) Good luck and please keep useful video. God bless you!) .
You are welcome. What language do you speak?
in Russian. But I am from Kazakhstan. )
+Enot 888 ok.
+Enot 888 thanks for watching.
Great video as always! I plan to knock out this job tomorrow morning. Finally got the rest of the parts I need for it today.
Good deal.
Robert DIY
Just got done! Pretty straightforward job.
I did another set today as well. lol
Great video and channel! I just swapped the front right strut on my '98 v70 cross country, this video was EXTREMELY helpful! Thank you so much!
Thank you for watching.
You saved me a ton of Money! I've watched a number of your video's! Top notch, professional and no salty language. You're the best!
Thanks for watching.
Robert, Thank You for all your expertise and willingness to share this with us. You have allowed me the knowledge and confidence to to the strut jobs, and the job of replacing the head gasket, water pump,timing belt and so on on my 2001 S40.
Thanks and yes I will share!
+Clyde B. Wade Very nice!
...very grateful for the efforts you have made on our behalf with your vignettes...such a rich offering...many thanks!...
Thanks for watching
Robert thank you soooo much man! Anytime I have an issue with my 1994 850, I go straight to your channel! So very grateful for you🫶🏽
thanks for watching.
I feel pretty good about working on my Volvo after watching and listening to you... thanks!
+GUY MULLINS you are welcome
Thanks Robert!
Great video. Never did this operation before - and with your support it was possible. Thanks again!
thanks for watching.
Love your videos I've watched many working on my 850 Thank You
You are welcome.
Sachs super touring are really good too. I pulled some off my 850. They made my s70 ride so much better.
+Nico yes, they are real OEM.
Nice simple video without all the bs in others.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you ! I waited too long, spring broke and mount broke too, i think at the same time. Got my parts today.
Ouch
Very thorough video with clear instructions. Thanks so much for posting!
+Sally Szpak you are welcome
About to purchase a Volvo 960 and I'm sure this will be very helpful in the future. Thanks!!
Thanks for watching.
very helpful person, thank u Robert, Val
You are welcome.
Great vid Robert.. gonna put some Koni's on my ride once I get all the parts together. Wasn't sure what the Spring Seats Did but now think I should replace those to! Should ride like New here's what I got.. New Volvo control Arms, New inner & outer tie rods, new Koni Adjustable Sport Struts, new bellows & bump stops, New Strut Mounts/Bearings and Maybe some frame bushings while I'm at it. Then to the shop for a 4 wheel alignment. Should run pretty good I hope!
Already did the big brakes, ss lines and had the abs redone for $70
Sweet
Nice job Robert, you have inspired me to tackle my own struts.
+James Green good deal, get a good set.
Good find Robert, I was able to find a set of Koni STRT that were decent. I got them for $90 and new the set retails for $390-$400.
Wow!
Robert thanks again for another awesome video. I may just go through all your videos and watch as a better form of education than school lol
Thanks for watching.
Wow, Thanks Robert. This video could not come more perfect :D
Cool, thanks for watching.
You make it look easy, hope mine goes this smooth on my V40. Wish me luck!
Just take your time and have your tools ready.
All good Stuff!
Thanks Robert, and Happy new year from the UK!
+SarkyBugger Happy new year to you.
Liked instantly, before watching👌🏻
Awesome! Thanks.
Robert: Found a Bilstein product line information on line, = That last question has been answered.
Mine are mechanically sound but pretty rusty. Looks easy enough to remove them so might do this and treat them to a wire brush and a lick of paint!
Hmmm
That damn dog was really on one...
I know.
I’ve been suffering for about 2 years The springs were bought from IPD they said that was the correct fit
Right from the start it rode hard. I’m tempted to get a pair of front springs from the junk yard.
These cars ride firm. Where are you located?
good job Robert.
Thanks for watching
thanks you are always helpfull with volvo
You are welcome
dam dude where where you in 2003 when I owned a dark green 1994 850 turbo. it was a great car...always smelled clean and sport mode was really fun. I was afraid of european auto ownership costs so it went...it was a. very nice car.
+datto240z Cool, mine is a '95 and I have about 305,000 on it now.
I hope whoever uses this video in practice compresses the spring!!!
Why?
@@RobertDIY just in case someone doesn't pay attention to if there is a retainer nut underneath the top hat. Just thinking safer practice. Good videos btw!
ok
oh man... you found Bilsteins??? BRAVO!
+BlastReadingSeries Yes sir, on a '95 NA. ;)
+Robert DIY I tried to switch springs on my wife's 98 S70 into some Monroes and I failed miserably at getting the top bolt and star nut off. (Even broke one of those Volvo tools!) I took the struts to a shop where they were able to take off the top bolt and couldn't get the star nut off. Acknowledging defeat, I just put in Readymounts. But man, it would've been incredible to have find like this!
+BlastReadingSeries Needle in a hay stack.
What I wouldn't give to have you as my neighbour Robert. I got the same problem.
;)
thanks I was not sure i wanted to do it you video was helpful i'm going for it
+bill tucker cool.
wow that's cheap thanks for the video I know what a strut is and how to replace it thanks for the fast reply
You're welcome.
Good Video, thank you! But what is about the Sleeve (2 pieces each damper) VolvoNumber 9153007 ??? Vida told you that you need to replace /put it in everytime you have a new Shock, because that the bolt has no "play" in it then and can´t cause any Camber problems...
Never seen 1 before. Above my pay grade.
@@RobertDIY so would say it is not necessary ?? Because 4 pieces are about 100 dollars here in Europe … if I don’t need I would gladly not buy
Not a bad idea
Thanks Robert
Thanks for watching
Hi Robert, what brand do you recommend? My front and back strut needs to be change, its feels like my volvo 850 is going to come into pieces cause of vibration when i drive over a small bump o drive in highway. Greetings from Peru.
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Hi Robert - just a question, do you need to get brand new strut bolts if doing a swap of struts (the two at the bottom by the steering knuckle), or even the three at the top of the strut tower? This is for a 98 S70 T5. Great vids btw, I'm constantly watching them!
I usually do not but you should. Strut to knuckle bolts.
Robert DIY thanks for the answer! Guess I’ll order new bolts
So my 1996 Volvo 960 strut is bent due to an accident and I was wondering i can replace my 960 struts to 1996 850 strut? Sorry if this is a dumb question
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Thanks BOSS
Any time
Robert, Thanks for another great informative video. At 8:10 you say put the bolts back in the same place (and to mark them to help you do this). I don't understand this because I am thinking "where else can the bolts go?" Thanks for clarifying.
The holes in the frame are slotted.
OK, I see it now at 8:46. Thanks.
Hi. Robert.
Thanks for another great vid.
Just wondered if you used new or used strut to hub bolts please?
I've got new struts which are Meyle but I've had to buy new high tensile bolts as they were not included with the new units.
Cheers bud.
Den. UK.
Use new if at all possible. I had 1 break and fall out of my daughters car.
@@RobertDIY Not the sort of thing you want to happen when your going 60-70 on the freeway!
I've sourced some high tensile bolts locally at a specialist supplier so happy days!
Keep on running bud!
Thanks again for this video. I find it difficult to torque things "exactly" because it's difficult to measure 90 degrees in a tight area. I'm speaking specifically about strut to steering knuckle bolts, because they take roughly 50 ft lbs plus 90 degrees. Do you think that a little over 90 ft lbs of torque is adequate for strut to steering knuckle bolts? It's ok if you don't know, I'm just curious. That's what I measured it at after tightening.
90 Degrees is 1/4 of a full turn. You can mark a bolt and take short stabs at it.
Robert would you happen to know why a Volvo s70 would take 30 minutes to start again after starting it and turning it off?? I can't figure out why it would be doing this. Please respond and let me know if you would any ideas.
Have you scanned it for codes? Maybe the ECT is bad.
Maybe fuel pump relay which Robert also has a video covering. Saved my butt, i thought the car was toast and apparently so did the previous owner. 130k miles and the poor vehicle was abandoned.
Did the same 2 weeks ago, purchased just 1 and they send me 2 so i did the job on both sides. Thanks for your Videos they help a lot!
EDIT: Got the hardware of Professional Parts Sweden, do you have any idea if those are good? Not sure if they're sold in US too as i'm from Germany.
What brand were they?
Thats the name of the brand, Professional Parts Sweden.
I'd try to go with a name brand like Volvo, Lefemore, Mayle, etc.
Thank you for your answers, i'll see how long these will last, but so far its a way better driving then with the old ones.
Good deal.
Hi Robert, does the spring cause the hard ride or the strut?
I was told I should not have thrown away the old springs. I’m confused!! The struts I installed were Sachs
The OEM springs are usually better. How long have you had the struts installed? Takes about 1,500 miles to soften up a little and 5,000 to be broken in.
Love your stuff Robert!
So I had to remove the struts to get the new 4 bolt control arms in. Put it all back together and now I have significant squeaking from the front right strut. The top three bolts for the strut, can they go in one way? I’m wondering if I have the top mounting bracket in the wrong position.
They only go in one way. Maybe they were damaged and are now a little worse since you disturbed them. My guess would be that something is loose.
@@RobertDIY thank you!
@@RobertDIY Was a bad upper strut mount. Ended up with new control arms and new struts. Spendy parts but a whole lot cheaper doing it myself with your help. Thanks Robert! Next time you're in the Portland area, lunch on me.
Hey Robert,
Do I need to be careful with the drive shaft? I once pulled the shaft apart on a V60 while having them hanging and pulled out like that.
Yes.
Hi Robert, Happy New Year!
What do you think of changing the 20 year old front springs on the 850? Would it be any noticable benefit from it?
Rear ones were replaced due to the well known sagging of these 850s. Front spring seats and front strut bearings were also replaced. I have no problem but would it worth to renew them?
+PaulB I f they are maintaining the ride hight I wouldn't bother.
Hi I am looking for a 1999 Volvo V70R front bumper black preferably other wise I would take any other colour thanks Fitz
I believe there are a couple close to Ohio and Michigan.
Hi Robert! Do you think that this procedure will this be the same for a 2001 Volvo S80? I'm thinking about installing coilovers on mine :)
And thank you for a very educational video!!
Probably a little different. I think those cars may have front leveling sensors, etc. You may want to check on that before going crazy.
Can you use 97 850 strut assembly on a 2000 s70? I'll be damned if they dont look the same.... Thanks for the info in the video.
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Robert, I bit off topic. But I finally received my OMP strut bar. Do you know if it is installed on top of the 3 washers on the upper strut mount. Or would o want to remove them and place the bar flanges directly on the sheet metal (unibody). I installed it on top of the washers, Wondering if it's correct...? How do you have your strut brace attached on Panther?
Thanks!
+Mark Begle washers always under the nuts.
Just curious, do you know what parts might be cross compatible between the 98 v70 p80 and 01 S60 p2 chassis? I recently demolished a strut on my 98 v70, but I have an 01 s60 which may sadly become a parts car if I can't get a title.
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Thanks Robert! That should definitely help me narrow things down!
Hi Robert, I have a 1996 960 and I'm looking for struts. I've found most of the things needed (strut, mounting, etc), but I can't find the coil spring anywhere. Are they all standard size and just need to be compressed, or do you have to have specific springs for cars like most parts?
+patq911 specific. If the car is not sagging, they are probably fine.
What struts would you recommend? Thinking of getting assembly
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hello...like your videos. just bought a 1996 850 in great shape. my struts perform well, but the grommet at the top squeak. ...any suggestions to stop the squeaking? thank you
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Just curious what fuel u use in your volvos... :) nice vid
+Leatherkid01 91+ Octane
After replacing complete strut assembly on 2002 XC70 I have not been able to get the camber right. After market parts? Any suggestions?
I have no idea.
Should I get a wheel alignment after doing this to my car?
yes
I just installed koni yellows about 2 weeks ago on my c70. Seems like these stock volvo struts can get really stiff/harsh when they go bad instead of leaking and getting bouncy
Yes, it is strange. They got real bouncy on my daughter's S70.
How would you know if the assembly was put together correctly? I need to remove my top Mount and put a new one on and need to know if I need the spring compressor or not
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Just did this install last week with thanks to you Robert! I have a question. Do you know how long Nimovat shocks last on 1999 v70 xc wagons?
Until they fail. Leaking is a sign of failure.
@@RobertDIY the back not leaking thats good for me! The fronts I put in are killing it> brand 1999 v70 xc wagon here
getting parts to do my struts on 96 850. noticed fcp lists copper lock nuts for the strut mount? do you know the reason for that? can you reuse the original? do you typically replace the strut hardware? cross nut, bolts, washer, etc. or buy new OEM parts?
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Hello Robert...just had the front struts replaced on my 850. Question: with the hood open and I push up and down on the front end, should the top rubber grommet/bushing at the top of the strut move up and down as well? When I push down, the rubber bushing is about an inch or so above the frame. I thought it was suppose to be secured. The car rides terribly with the new struts. The shop is being cool about it, and I'm taking it back today so a different mechanic can look at it....thoughts?
Probably has torn strut mounts.
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Robert DIY thank you robert
Turn the well so that you can get it out faster
+Gio Brembi LOL, HELP!!!
Hi Robert. Thanks so much for this. I just did my front struts. Torqued everything to specifications as best I could. Only difference was that I got stronger bolts (10.9) for the two strut mounting bolts on each strut because those were the only I could find. Everything is fine, but there's a constant, slight rattle in the front left strut (even when not going over bumps). Any ideas? I'm wondering if it needs to break in or something.
+Samuel Kilada rattle? At what speeds? Should be solid.
+Robert DIY Mostly at low speeds, a constant rattle. Weird thing is by the time I got to work today it had mostly stopped! Perhaps the difference in suspension stresses things differently? I jacked up the car and checked my bolts, everything seemed to be torqued right.
You can bring it by and I'll help you find it.
Thank you for the offer! I'll see if it persists and let you know. I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you so much ... 👏🏽👏🏽
You are welcome
great video......how much did that used assembly cost you
I think they cost about $25 each.
I do beleive the 2 bolts on the lower end are not a thight fit and the angle of the wheel will be affected if you just put them back without adjusting,
+hans joergen Skov They seem pretty tight but I'll have to check. But an alignment should be done anytime you remove suspension parts.
Does the replacement of struts affect the alignment? I have had all my suspension parts for a couple months just didnt know if an alignment is necessary afterwards.
As mentioned in the video, yes.
Thank you Robert, must've missed it in the video lol. Appreciate it
Hey Robert, I have a 99 s70 I am going to put on lowering springs front and rear. Is their such thing as lowering shocks or would replacement oem ones be fine?
+George Bennett standard shocks will be fine.
Robert DIY thank you sir!
Pot hole city, New York
Would changing the springs from a junk car improve any?
I have no idea. You may want to get an old Cadi.
Robert Top of the day to you.Trying to make up my mind on, if I should go with Koni or Bilstein struts on a 850 1995 wagon. We do use this car for trips.
+Peter Jones Koni FSD or Bilstein touring.
Robert the Bilstein touring is that the B4 or B6
Just as an FYI on Bilstein strut nomenclature:
B4 = Touring/OEM replacement
B6 = HD (beefy mono-tube design, stiffer for use with stock springs)
B8 = Sport (mono-tube design with shorter piston to accommodate lowering springs)
I have a 93 volvo 960 is there a good website where I can find suspension parts or parts period? Any help with websites people
Not that I am aware of.
FCP Euro
Hey Robert, hope youre well. The time is finally here to replace the struts on my '98 s90. But i cant find any billsteins. in fact, i can only find monroes and struts from proparts sweden. is either brand ok? thanks in advance.
Sacs?
@@RobertDIY i can find sachs for the rear at ipd, but not for the front. cant find them at fcp euro or autoparts warehouse either. any ideas where i could locate them? the ride is really spongy and 70s cadillacesque, as the previous owner had changed the suspension. dont want to repeat that.
I helped someone order some from thevolvopartsstore.
Hello Robert, I have found many of your videos helpful in keeping my 1996 Volvo 960 running in good repair. I am looking to replace the front struts and can not find them available anywhere. Any suggestions you could offer would be greatly appreciated. I have been searching for Volvo 271911 or Monroe 71520
Have you checked Volvo supply places? I ordered a set for someone a few months ago.
That was fast, thanks for the reply. I have spent hours searching the internet and making phone calls and have had no luck. Where did you order your last set from?
Thanks for your quick responce. I have searched high and low through the internet and making phone calls. (NO LUCK) Could you let me know where you ordered the set a few months ago?
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hi Robert, finally getting around to replacing my struts with Koni Streets...
about to put everything back together and can't find torque values in the comments... 3 bolts on top? 2 lower bolts? 2 brake caliper bolts (because I removed them to paint them for easier access to the lower bolt, and paint them with red caliper paint)
-Mark ('96 850 R wagon)
- Strut to Steering Knuckle: 65 Nm, then another 90 degrees.
- Strut Guide to Susp Tower (the three 13-mm nuts): 25 Nm.
- Swaybar Endlink 17-mm nut: 50 Nm
- Strut 22-mm Large Nut: 70 Nm. (top of strut)
All of the torque values are in the comments. Not sure why you can not see them.
The brake caliper torque info should be in the brake caliper video.
dang it, I torqued to 78 ft lbs , then 90 degrees, didn't realize those were specs for an S40.. I should've waited for your reply...you reckon I should loosen em up and ready torque, or did I stress the new boots and lock nuts?
thx for your help!
Probably loosen and retorque.
You found these in a yard but what car did they come off?
+Nick Malvasi A Volvo 850.
Hi Robert I have a question 98 s70 non turbo.. It stalls and bucks when pressing on gas than dies.. check engine light blinks but does not stay on. Only happens when 40 and below.. Any idea what it could be?
+Katie Wagner Check Engine light codes?
+Robert DIY No codes come up.. Daily driver.. Random stalling.. new fuel relay.. so its not that
Have you had the system scanned?
+Robert DIY. Yes bad Throttle position sensor.. got a new one put it in and no more codes come up but problem still remains.
+Robert DIY Can it be my fuel pump going out? I will start it in morning let it warm up.. drive a mile down the road.. it starts bucking, stalling and then dies.. will take 3-4 times of turning key before it will start.. only way to keep it running is to have in neutral and pressing on gas so it wont die. Or can it be camshaft position sensor.. trying to narrow it down so I am not missing work? Don't have money or time off of work to send to shop.. Thanks for helping
i stripped one of those damn bolts down there. time for harbor freight angle grinder ugh
I feel your pain.
I just scared some used Konis can’t wait tell they get here. My struts are shot
I hope that works out. I usually don't have good success with used struts.
is there a difference between right passenger and driver side?
nope.
I'm going to be replacing front struts and getting new tires soon, should I do them on the same day and also get an alignment done? I will be replacing struts myself then driving 20 miles on the new struts to get new tires, is that OK?
These cars have very little alignment adjustment so I wouldn't worry about an alignment until after you get tires.
awesome thanks, I bought this Volvo 850 a year ago with 140k on it and after one year and 10k miles the only problem I had was needing a new mass airflow sensor. any tips on what service you think Is essential for this car? I don't know much about the past owners maintenence habits but over the past year I've been religious about the basics and its been running great so far.
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Volvo 850 & V70 struts compatible?
P80 platform.
Can u work on my volvo???
Serious question
Depends on your location.
@@RobertDIY Lancaster CA
Robert,
I am seeking a strut brace for my 2000 V70. It is the P80 platform, not P2.
I CANNOT find one! OE part 9204176 but I wouldn't mind the OMP one either.
I'd pay you a good price if you can get ahold of one for me!
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@@RobertDIY appreciated 👍