How to Tell If Top Mounts Need Replacing
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- How to tell if top mounts need replacing and how to tell if top mounts are worn. Detailing some of the symptoms of bad front strut mounts.
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You speak very clearly and comprehensively, with a solid vocabulary, refreshing!! (LOADS of youtubers stutter with "umms and errrrrs" half their videos!!)
umms and errrs ... he edited them all out.... why do you think others so many jump cuts
You saved me on one car with the CV quick-boot tutorial, and another with this top mount test. Cheers!
Useful. Going to check this tomorrow as I’ve started having a knocking.
This channel is a must follow for any Saab owner!
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Thank you, you include all the relevant information for a novice and make things simple to understand, subscribed thanks!
Most helpful video out there. Thank you. Been hunting and replacing suspension parts for years. It's very clearly the struts.
Thanks for making this video. Now I know exactly what I need to fix on my car.
hey! just wanna say dude keep up the great work! pls do more saab vids 😊
thx to u my 2003 93 with over 300k km on the clock is still alive! just got it thru the MOT after 2 months of trying but your vids and detailed guides i could fix most of my problems for cheap and myself!!
again! thx a lot and keep up the great work!😁
Lots of good stuff here. I haven't seen another youtuber cover this particular nspection. Thank you Cyd.
My pleasure!
Thanks for this video mate, and your others, I have been watching them since buying a convertible 9-3 which I found out yesterday leaks like a sieve.
Thanks so much for the clear information on strut mounts! I was looking exactly fro that content.
Had a pinging noise when locking steering wheel and wasnt sure what it was ? Shock bearing was seized thanks for the explanation 👍
This helped a great deal! Thank you so much!! Explained very well
Really great information- I replaced my insignias top mounts with non GM mounts and had knocking over bumps, replaced again with GM Mounts (about £10 each extra) and no more knocks! I couldn’t believe it, but there is very slight up and down movement on the non GM bearing which was causing the noise !
Only buy OEM top mounts folks !!
Great information. Been looking into replacing my suspension system since im at the 127k miles
Excellent tutorial mate 👍🏼 exactly describes the issue I'm having.
I get knocking at the front whenever I use Sachs dampers from ECP at the front - three different vehicles (Skoda, Audi, Renault). In each case the knocking started within a year or so, and not huge mileage (less than 20K IIRC). With the Renault, the damper function was also significantly impaired - on sharp turns the outer front corner dipped horribly.
I contacted Sachs and they assured me that they ECP do sell genuine Sachs parts. All the dampers were bought 2016-2020. All balljoints and bushes were fine on all three vehicles.
I switched to using KYB dampers for all vehicles and I've had no further problems, even after high mileage and rough roads - and I love the ride!!
I've also previously had no problems with OEM dampers from VW. I've had no trouble with Sachs clutches and DMFs.
Anyway, I've posted this in case it helps anyone here with knocking that's not caused by the top mount.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice to see you back doing some videos on the Saab 9-3 2.0T looking forward to the next instalment 👌🏻😜
More to come!
@@CycloneCyd I’m really looking forward to it 👌🏻👍🏻
Very good tutorial. Thank you!
Very good explanation, thank you!
Nice video, was listening very closely, I have recently had both front struts replaced including coil springs and top mounts, but since my garage replaced them (I supplied the parts) It has developed a knocking noise on a certain situation only, such as manoeuvring my car out of my drive onto the road, there is a hump between my drive and road, when I reverse out and the rear wheels have gone down the other side of the hump I get a 'Clunk' sound as I turn the steering to get onto the road, now this can happen going in reverse or forward over the same small hump, but no clunks at all when driving normally, only when manoeuvring over this hump or somewhere where the same situation occurs!
Now the only thing I can assume is that when I assembled the parts to make-up the strut assembly, I decided not to torque down the centre retaining nut where the shock absorber rod goes through the top mount, so left a note with the struts to inform the mechanics that it will need to be torqued down, but I am beginning to think that maybe they've forgot to torque down the nuts and that's why it only makes a clunk when going over a hump where the rear wheels are down the hump and the front suspension is being unloaded as the rear of the car goes down causing movement at the top mount !
What do you think ? it could be something else, but it's quite a solid sounding clunk ! it's definitely from the front suspension and getting a little louder week by week ! The problem here is that I have a Volvo C70ii 2011, and the top nut is underneath a thick solid plastic cover preventing access to the centre nut to check for tightness, so was thinking of cutting a hole in the plastic cover to access the centre nut, rather than having to undo everything from underneath to get to the nut ! Any advice or ideas would be appreciated please.
Many thanks for great portion of knowledge!
Great video. I appreciate the small video clips that shows "if it does this = bad"
Me too. Very informative and straight to the point!
Great video. And great colors.
Very nice and explained thank you
Great video. Thanks so much.
Brilliant video thank you I have just started hearing a twang bong noice very intermittent at the moment on my mk5 golf R32 2006 and going to ask the vw garage there advice
Thank you
Great tutorial I believe this is my issue. You covered all the important stuff. My issue occurs over the very small bumps in the road and I had originally thought it was bad tires due to the ribs on the freeway. Would a bad strut cause any of these similar issues? Also noticed that my 2 month old control arms failed... would a bad shock top cause rapid wear of control arms?
Very informative and helpful,.
Thank you
Valuable discussion..all the more so because of the road network condition and increased mileages as the market delays new car purchase.
The top mount I show with the movement was almost brand new. So I fitted new Meyle units. Now my suspension refresh feels like it should
Thanks a lot boss , you helped me much 👍😊😊😎😇
great vid, cheers
Oh my god I've been chasing down a suspension problem in my car for YEARS. What you describe about the ripples in the pavement from the mount not being connected is PRECISELY what I feel. It's like the shock absorber is solid and is unable to iron out the micro-ripples in even very very very smooth tarmac. It presents like a small wheel balance issue, except it's frequency is not related to speed and can be felt even at very low speeds (10 or 20mph). it just makes the car feel like a crummy ride, instead of the luxury car it should be.
and it's because some knucklehead at the shop didn't replace the fucking shock mounts, when I thought they had, many many years ago when I first tried to solve this with new shock absorbers! Holy shit.
Thank you so much for this, I came across your video while doing my research as I've had growing suspicion about the car not feeling right, and that something in the shock assembly is just not correct. I will be inspecting them and hopefully replacing them shortly. Cheers!
Were the strut mounts the cause of the problem you just described, since i do have same symptoms on my SAAB 9-3 also.
@@florentosmani8534 I did further testing and I can confirm visually looking at the mounts they appear to be the case. I will know in about another week once I replace them.
@@lowstrife thanks for the update buddy,
prior to that i did replace shock absorbers and springs also some bushings on front suspension but the noise is still there, the only thing left to change are the strut mounts.
@@florentosmani8534 If you're talking about noise, that's not what I have.
Were the shock mounts also replaced when you did the shocks?
@@lowstrife yep, i've got febi on both sides, it's more like clunking noise while going over bumps
After replacing my strut mounts and bearings due to front knocking on my 2006 9-3 and still having knocking, I was at a loss … then one afternoon it got so bad I had to investigate again.
Well, all I can say is don’t purchase the cheapest item. I replaced both side with a much better mount and bearing combination and no more knocking. Ever since I purchased the car from an elderly couple it has always had a knock.
Problem solved!
I agree, I've seen them knocking out of the box. I've just fitted Meyle top mounts and bearings - made the car feel new again
Thanks for this video Cyd, I've got a clunking sound when turning the steering wheel left to right, albeit only noticeable when stationary.
More notably, i get steering wheel wobble when slowing to a halt or travelling on a less-than-perfectly-smooth road. Is this a possible symptom of the issue you raise with the top mount?
Very informative. We had both front suspension struts, springs and top mounts replaced 10 months ago on our 2007 SEAT Alhambra. We've done 5000 miles of normal road driving since then, car developed knocking noise a few weeks ago, took it back to the garage that did the work and they said one of the top mounts has broken. They are going to replace it for free, but any ideas why it could have broken so soon? When they did the suspension repairs some of the exact parts (springs and bushes) were no longer available so alternative parts were recommended by parts supplier and fitted.
Hello Cyd, any tips & tricks regarding the engine mounts, preferably for a B284
Good information, thanks
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Hello Cud,
Thanks. Is it true that ANY movement of the top nut in the retainer assembly warrants replacement?
From my understanding on my Mercedes e350 AWD, there normally should be some small visible movement as the strut cycles. I have a horrible strut knocking sound accompanied by symptoms of worn out shock absorbers , Sachs.
The shocks have only 30k miles on them so I really need to rule out any other possible sources. I replaced the top mount and the knocking persists as well as a modest amount of movement within the top mount.
Appreciate any update insights you may have.
Mike
First time watcher and on the c4 grand Picasso u can’t see the top mount to shake the shell up and down
Great tutorial! You explained the strut noise on my car exactly! Thank you.
Hello, I've recently been having an issue with my 2008 saab 9-3 2.0t with the radio not illuminating or playing any sound, that started two days before my battery was completely dead I had the battery recharged and checked the alternator both were good, I just saw your video to check the terminals under the battery. However I don't know how that would effect the radio please help me trouble shoot this issue please. Have a wonderful day and I'm happy I found your channel very informative and happy to learn more about my vehicle.
Have you checked the fuse? Also check the amp in the boot for water damage. I've got a video for boot leaks
Thank you
You're welcome
ba bump noise is such a general term could be anything in your suspension system u have to physically check everything.. use your arms, eyes, and a crowbar
If i have visible movement in the topmount when bouncing the car. Is it 100% i need new top mounts?
I have a knocking sound in my newly bought Saab 9-3X.
Previous owner recently changed the top mounts. But maybe he used bad cheap parts and its allready broken again. I think he used Ridex....
Would it make rattling noise when going slowly (up to 30mph) over pitted, scored road? It sounds like rattling coming from the top. Bottom of the suspension have been checked, new d bushes fitted and links, wishbones got no play and that. Just that subtle rattle somewhere - sound more like some plastik not metal on metal. Really hard to describe.
Will the top mount on Audi a6 c6 knock if is worn out? Or would it be the strut most likely?
Can squeaking from the front suspension when going over speed bumps be caused by bad top mounts?
Excellent tutorial Cyd!
Thank you kindly!
One of the bolts sheared off my 93 and the new top mount didn't come with any bolts, do you happen to know what bolt / size / type
Yep. M8x20 grade 8.8 min. Stock screws had a dog point, but you'll be able to manage without. And i think a flange head would be better than a seperate washer.
Informative video great stuff Cyd! I had a weird noise when going over bumps, I read it could be the bearings so due to the age of my strut assembly I put together a brand new strut inc bearings mounts, protective sleeve. I made a video of the process if it helps anyone out :)
Thanks for the info!
Mine squeaks when turning at low speeds
Got the same issue with my Audi
What brand did you use and how many miles have you driven?
@@giveme10feet Its was still the original. At 170K. Changed to new ones but squeak still not gone. Probably the connection point between the anti roll bar and the drop link. That's the only part not changed now.
I recently purchased a used car and almost immediately noticed there was a creaking sound as well as quiet clunking from the front of the car when driving. Brought it back to the dealership and they said it was the struts, and that they replaced both. The creaking went away but then there was a new sound.. a loud bang near the front right of the car, only when going over a speed bump. It honestly feels like every time I go over a speed bump, an iron fist comes out of the ground and punches the front right of the frame. Wild, I know. The sound is loud and scares the crap out of me every time I go over a speed bump. Took it back to the dealership and they said, "oh, there were some loose bolts. We toghtened them, should fix it". I went over a speed bump and BANG! The same iron fist punching sound. Never heard something so loud and am not sure what could be causing it. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.. im so frustrated at this point.. and terrified to drive my own car.. that I just bought!
The only advice I can offer mechanically is that you may need to check all engine and gearbox mountings.
I suggest that you do some research regarding consumer protection legislation in your area to see what your rights are in respect of returning the vehicle or having the vehicle repaired at a reputable workshop with the dealership fitting the bill. It seems crazy that the dealership is attempting to repair the vehicle but returns it without test driving it to make sure that the repair was successful. It doesn't matter if the vehicle is used, it needs to be sold in reasonable working condition and you've given the dealer ample opportunity to repair the fault so look at what your rights are
I have honda civic fn2 and something is knocking while driving on concrete roads or parkings. Been in 3 garages already and no one can say why and what is knocking. I will give it a chance and change bearing and mounting
Funny enough, that's why im here too. Got a sound that sounds almost like a torque wrench click coming from the top right... definitely suspension. Did you get it done, and if so, did it go?
@@The_Holier_Spirit yes for now all sorted. Changed coil springs, shock absorbers,top strut bearings and top mounts. A lot better but still knocking. Bought mounting bushes for antiroll bar and it solved problem. Had a clicking noise few days after similar to yours like a torque wrench clicking. But it was brake pad in the right wheel, i think been hitting carrier or something. Good clean for brakes helped. For now is okay but sometimes when hit a pothole with left wheel someting bangs again but gave up as i have enought this car
I live in America, my state doesnt check anything but smog. I wonder how in depth your Australian government peoples check. Are they really checking this part?
Can you really not tell the difference between British and Australian accent??
@@Todd361 sometimes. Also I dont care either way because they are both Nations tha speak english, stem from England or are England, BUT DONT believe in Free Speech.
@@rmat9023 and there's no running water, street lights and people are shot on the spot if the are outside after dark.
Thanks having a nightmare with my car…mechanics let me down!!
My Uncle change in Iran, something scoffer.
Dont buy Sachs top mounts, build quality is bad, they dont come with set of new bolts, and guess what you can't use the old one's because its not the same size, and 2 of 3 nuts of the mount didn't want to tighten to the car instead they were spinning endlessly.
So what brand top mounts do you recommend?
Lamforder( but they moved factory to China, so quality is again questionable) , maybe Kayaba(kyb) japan manufacturer.
Jesus, the editing in this is horrible.. Way to many frame jumps, very uncomfortable to watch.
Buy a fucking Toyota!