"Note that the Buescher improved joint is seamless, it being formed up from the material of the tube thereby eliminating the old process of soldering a connecting ring to the tube and its attending weaknesses and ungraceful proportions" - from the saxpics ad!
It is misleading- they are actually talking about a regular drawn tonehole, which was relatively new at the time that ad copy was written. Before that, every tonehole on every sax was soft soldered. The Buescher Improved METHOD, which is the tonehole in the video above, is a different thing again.
I wonder if these came about as an attempt to get out of paying patent license fees for drawing tone holes. It looks like this horn has a body-bow connecting ring instead of the "Buescher Improved joint" shown on the ad - right?
I recently acquired a 1935 Art Deco Tenor that has intonation all over the place. The key heights aren’t out of wack and everything is sealing. When compare to my ‘22 New Wonder(which has great intonation) the neck is much shorter. It looks like the original Buescher neck as the lacquer is dead on. Have you heard of/experienced any odd intonation issues with these?
@@StohrerMusic Thanks for the response and thank you for all the videos you do. I have learned so much from them. Finally got an Otto Link STM 6* to try out on the Buescher. Wow! Completely transformed the horn and the intonation issues are minimal. With this mouthpiece I can correct everything else with embouchure. Again, thanks for all the information you share on your channel.
+Heimann Band Repair since 1968 No, that is an actual musician! A local fellow here by the name of Chad Eby, who was nice enough to blow a few notes on it and give me some feedback while he was in the shop for something else. I asked him if I could record him for a few seconds for this video and he graciously said yes, even though he was unfamiliar with the horn and just noodling around.
+Fondest Eye No, the Aristocrat in this video is a professional saxophone built in the 1930s. In the 1960s, the Buescher company was bought by Selmer USA and the tooling was used to create the Bundy I, which is a student horn (albeit a very, very good one) and it looks and plays similarly to the Aristocrat, but is built of cheaper materials and without the bells and whistles present on an Aristocrat. To further confuse matters, the "Aristocrat" name has been used several times by Selmer USA (or Conn-Selmer, as they are currently known) in student horns. But if its a Buescher Aristocrat made in the 1930s-1950s, it is a professional saxophone.
+Fondest Eye I play a 1938 Buescher Aristocrat tenor and can say it is definitely a top of the line professional horn. It's somewhere in between a Conn of the era with the big sound, and the refinement of a Selmer--sort of the best of both worlds and fully capable of doing whatever you want it to do. Speaking of which, it's about due for an overhaul, so maybe I'll look into sending it to Matt...
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"Note that the Buescher improved joint is seamless, it being formed up from the material of the tube thereby eliminating the old process of soldering a connecting ring to the tube and its attending weaknesses and ungraceful proportions" - from the saxpics ad!
It is misleading- they are actually talking about a regular drawn tonehole, which was relatively new at the time that ad copy was written. Before that, every tonehole on every sax was soft soldered. The Buescher Improved METHOD, which is the tonehole in the video above, is a different thing again.
Thanks for the clarification Matt, been learning lots from your videos.
Seen the York full plate but not the flanged Beuscher before. Always like the Martin soldered tone holes.
I wonder if these came about as an attempt to get out of paying patent license fees for drawing tone holes.
It looks like this horn has a body-bow connecting ring instead of the "Buescher Improved joint" shown on the ad - right?
did you make a video on the Big B Aristocrat yet? I just got a 1941 one, and it's really good.
I recently acquired a 1935 Art Deco Tenor that has intonation all over the place. The key heights aren’t out of wack and everything is sealing. When compare to my ‘22 New Wonder(which has great intonation) the neck is much shorter. It looks like the original Buescher neck as the lacquer is dead on. Have you heard of/experienced any odd intonation issues with these?
Nope
@@StohrerMusic Thanks for the response and thank you for all the videos you do. I have learned so much from them. Finally got an Otto Link STM 6* to try out on the Buescher. Wow! Completely transformed the horn and the intonation issues are minimal. With this mouthpiece I can correct everything else with embouchure. Again, thanks for all the information you share on your channel.
Is that you playing?
+Heimann Band Repair since 1968 No, that is an actual musician! A local fellow here by the name of Chad Eby, who was nice enough to blow a few notes on it and give me some feedback while he was in the shop for something else. I asked him if I could record him for a few seconds for this video and he graciously said yes, even though he was unfamiliar with the horn and just noodling around.
Is the Aristocrat a beginner horn?
+Fondest Eye No, the Aristocrat in this video is a professional saxophone built in the 1930s. In the 1960s, the Buescher company was bought by Selmer USA and the tooling was used to create the Bundy I, which is a student horn (albeit a very, very good one) and it looks and plays similarly to the Aristocrat, but is built of cheaper materials and without the bells and whistles present on an Aristocrat. To further confuse matters, the "Aristocrat" name has been used several times by Selmer USA (or Conn-Selmer, as they are currently known) in student horns. But if its a Buescher Aristocrat made in the 1930s-1950s, it is a professional saxophone.
+Matt Stohrer OK. Thanks! I have always looked at it as a beginner horn, but I'll take it into consideration.
+Fondest Eye I play a 1938 Buescher Aristocrat tenor and can say it is definitely a top of the line professional horn. It's somewhere in between a Conn of the era with the big sound, and the refinement of a Selmer--sort of the best of both worlds and fully capable of doing whatever you want it to do. Speaking of which, it's about due for an overhaul, so maybe I'll look into sending it to Matt...