How to use Mangudai on Arena!

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  • In this video I show how you can use Mangudai very efficiently and explain a fair bit of my thought process.
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ความคิดเห็น • 251

  • @TheViperAOE
    @TheViperAOE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    I am going to be doing Thumbnails like this for a couple of days, would love more feedback on if you like this type of thumbnails or think it's over the top?

    • @furkansaryerli
      @furkansaryerli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Its a great thumbnail. Plain thumbnails looks kinda serious.

    • @mrhooody
      @mrhooody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I like it!

    • @jaycomas8285
      @jaycomas8285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope all is well, Viper. Thank you for making these videos. I wish I was a fraction of the player you are I'm terrible lol. Anyway I personally think the videos are more appealing when you have the title of your video in your thumbnail as you've been doing for some time.

    • @emir1338
      @emir1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wellll, maybe for some is nice and interesting but I think many people are here for the content which is great already.

    • @AmiWG
      @AmiWG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      A thumbnail without Daut's face will never get an approval from me.

  • @MrJoossie17
    @MrJoossie17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I find it amazing that you casually answer questions from chat while doing all that stuff ingame.. I can barely let my tc constantly work while scouting. The APM and multitasking is sick..

    • @aelix56
      @aelix56 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      When you're really good at a strat game it becomes 2nd nature to you, you have to focus on micro but on macro it should become easier and easier as soon as you *get* what your build orders economy etc should look like.

    • @jeffery_tang
      @jeffery_tang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      like what the other guy said, the better you are at the game, the less you have to think about what you are doing... like for example, a world champion boxer could probably knock you out flat without thinking about it, while if i wanted to knock you out, i'd have to give it some thought on how to do it

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its like playing the guitar and singing. Easy when you are comfortable with the guitar. Seems impossible when you start. However, performance is affected. We've never really seen true viper in that way. In a few rare games on here he has gone quiet and started playing faster and faster. When he gets 'in the zone' is when he pulls off his ridiculous comebacks he is famous for.
      So basically, he does play like you when streaming, proportional to his skill level.

  • @__________________________---_
    @__________________________---_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Man, you and Daut playing Portal would be hilarious

  • @tylerfehr7883
    @tylerfehr7883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was disgustingly clean. I love how you discussed your strategy in detail. Very engaging

  • @LordGopu
    @LordGopu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Portal 2 with Daut would be hilarious. Love to see some Daut Portals.
    If Viper likes the Tycoon, go with a classic like Rollercoaster Tycoon (can use the open RCT mod or whatever for Rollercoaster Tycoon ).

  • @jeffery_tang
    @jeffery_tang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    19:00 sotl approves of that tech

  • @ElSeto93
    @ElSeto93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Viper playin Witcher ? Sign me up fam. Or Mass Effect maybe ? Whatever either one would be awesome once a week or so. Dark Souls would also be awesome it is everything but a chill game tho.

  • @the_thunder_child
    @the_thunder_child 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible play. It must be so annoying to play against you, like this guy had a nice army but was completely helpless against your micro.

  • @chuggles9167
    @chuggles9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Play Divinity 2 with the Secret boys, that has the potential to be hilarious...

    • @judahege7936
      @judahege7936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came here just to suggest the same thing, good strategy, funny teamwork and very chill game for Biper to play

    • @matthewmcneany
      @matthewmcneany 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baldur's Gate III (also from Larian but with more money and resources behind it) when it comes out.

    • @ignis488
      @ignis488 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      divinity 2 is a different game, divinity original sin 1 and 2 is the multiplayer one.
      the divinity franchise is almost as old as diablo give or take a bit, and has more games than just original sin

  • @Micalius2
    @Micalius2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Subnautica definitely deserves some love as well, I'm surprised that wasn't suggested already. There's a sequel on the way, currently in open beta, but the original is really good as well.

    • @Gloriath1
      @Gloriath1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second Subnautica, it's a work of art from start to finish.

  • @ibramdev
    @ibramdev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    your casual perfect micro whilst maintaining good macro and eco at home is incredible. Great video as always.

  • @magici4352
    @magici4352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huge +1 from me for Witcher 3. Lot's of great game suggestions, but I would love to see you play what is arguably one of the games of the decade! Since the COVID lockdown, I have started gaming more so I got Witcher 3 on sale. I probably spent 100+ hours gaming with 50+ on Age on 50+ on Witcher. It's a fantastic change of style and pace from competitive Age that you can just chill and go single-player. A modern game where the graphics still look fresh (though would recommend HD reworked mod which is great). Imagine Viper making story-changing decisions with FTL low latency chat - I'm a longtime Viper viewer and would definitely tune in!

  • @Cecil_Augus
    @Cecil_Augus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If TheViper plays chess with GMHikaru (as TwoUes suggests at 15:15) I'll die

    • @derAlphabet
      @derAlphabet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The snek will also die to Hikaru

    • @Cecil_Augus
      @Cecil_Augus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We should have a nowergian crossover, the n°1 of AoE vs the n°1 of Chess

  • @justiceteachesAI
    @justiceteachesAI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Viper! I love your new thumbnails. It goes well with your funny charming character.
    Please stick to it. Fan from 🇬🇧

  • @knights162
    @knights162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thumbnail good, explaining and giving insight also good

  • @ArutaretiI
    @ArutaretiI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I kind of liked KCD, the only thing that irritated me were cumans with bracers...

  • @ignacionadeo1306
    @ignacionadeo1306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yellow Mongols Viper. A nostalgic classic.
    RimWorld or FrostPunk would both be nice. They're both games where the entire point is trying to survive against a game that is actively trying to kill you, and that makes for great streams.

  • @davidvondoom2853
    @davidvondoom2853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Portal 2 is a great game.
    Any kind of city building or tycoon game you might find relaxing.

  • @_papasparta_-txc-4730
    @_papasparta_-txc-4730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think bannerlord is good to play again and I think it will be a game you will like a lot, since it has a lot of chill and tactics in it where you also can do whatever you want. For the chillness I would recommend easier settings so you and your troops dont die so quick.

  • @DiegoAlanTorres96
    @DiegoAlanTorres96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    22:45 Can't he just spread some onager fire over an area manually?
    He misses almost all shots

    • @DtoZ24
      @DtoZ24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that was the mistake. he never target fired. if that Slav player would be MBL this would be tougher for Viper.

  • @spd7693
    @spd7693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact - the war you played here actually happened, but rather with Tatars than with Mongols. (But they technically are the same thing.) It's also reflected in the book "With Fire and Sword" by Henryk Sienkiewicz. I could kinda recommend it to you if you have time for it.

  • @212mochaman
    @212mochaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geez who was the opponent? I'm a total noob but if the first thing i see is mangudai i aint even building a siege workship let alone trying to mass anything from em

    • @Dastanned
      @Dastanned 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Slavs against Mongols is always a difficult matchup. But viper said it himself during the game that it was the right approach using halbs and siege. Maybe bad execution. 1 against 4 relics and mangudai numbers just kept on growing.

  • @bl8976
    @bl8976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Company of Heroes 1 is WAY better than Company of Heroes 2

  • @CristianJailanderOrozco
    @CristianJailanderOrozco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vipey why is your volume so low on your videos? I always need to level up my volume to compesate it.

  • @alexbrennan9928
    @alexbrennan9928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Viper/Daut portal stream... please please please (and upload it to YT)

  • @lesterbeats7108
    @lesterbeats7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello can i have a request, if granted can you have a 1v1 vs extreme AI Long game and no Rushing to them? i want to see how , thanks more power

  • @eblom366
    @eblom366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    every viper game is an Amazing Learn for me. Interesting stuff.

  • @laurivaisanen6918
    @laurivaisanen6918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    skyrim got some mod recently that is supposed to me like new dlc, thou there we lot good other options too. And portal with Daut would be amazing, amount of trolling.

  • @MANIRES
    @MANIRES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    units killed 132 units lost 12... crazy..
    and enemy killed 20 and lost 140, so he killed 12 of vipers units and 8 of himself..
    and to add insult too injury, viper even converted 2 units from him^^
    Crazy stats

  • @mr110501
    @mr110501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didnt anyone mention Crash Bandicoot man :(

  • @saadiqbal3805
    @saadiqbal3805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try portal 2 MP coop, its the best. i just ended it

  • @ApocalipsisEnSabah
    @ApocalipsisEnSabah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should play SUPA MARIO BRODAS 2! GAME OF THE YEAR BABYYYY!

  • @jakublesniak5237
    @jakublesniak5237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you would be interested in playing Disco Elysium. It's one of the best RPG ever, chill gameplay, interesting graphics and story is just awesome!

    • @bg3841
      @bg3841 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm that could be interesting.

  • @Rollerguitar96
    @Rollerguitar96 ปีที่แล้ว

    00:05 - 00:15 "Black Forest is not in the Map Pool and i don't like playing Black Forest in General" - This comment didn't Age well ;-) :p

  • @Draconas
    @Draconas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Lierrey quit AOE? Saw some comment about MBL trying to get him to come back so I'm a bit confused

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He still plays, he's just not as active as others.

    • @Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism
      @Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Larry has always quit, Joadn is always back.

    • @Draconas
      @Draconas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I miss JOADN man :'(

  • @PhilAndOr
    @PhilAndOr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have so much dejavu listening to this commentary... like word for word... but I've never been on Mixer. Is it a really old cast?

  • @danbrooks1990
    @danbrooks1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boi! Watching my favourite player playing my favourite civ and focusing on how to micro my favourite unit! :D

  • @sneyler3277
    @sneyler3277 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don’t you play GTA V beside it’s free for now btw to anyone who didn’t get his GTA V you can claim it for free on Epic Games

  • @iceintheair
    @iceintheair 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ass ass creed black flag is in my top 10 most underrated games ever if you haven't played that... i feel as though you may have though... also good prep for ass ass norsemen

  • @EmperorSigismund
    @EmperorSigismund 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play Dwarf Fortress when it comes out on Steam. How could it not be chill? It's a game where Losing is Fun!

  • @kr-sd3ni
    @kr-sd3ni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    mr greed should have gone for skirms and helbs and ornagers. if mangudais come for hit squad on ornagers then skirms will do alot of dmg back. and helbs is for hussars.

  • @nemes1s_aoe
    @nemes1s_aoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it doable with plumes or CA as well or is it the mangudai bonus vs siege that plays a major role?

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plumes and Cavalry Archers need more military, and their fire rate isn't as good as Mangudai, but they can still do it. Mangudai really shine at it though, less risk involved.

  • @a1d2e3s4
    @a1d2e3s4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be different if MrGreed (Blue player) made skrimishers instead of halbadiers?

  • @lumptydumpty6992
    @lumptydumpty6992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a good TH-cam video which compares AoE2 to Starcraft? A TH-camr I like made one, but it was about all of Age of Empires, specifically AoM and AoE3, which I feel are simplified/more casual. I’d like to see a direct comparison between AoE2 and Starcraft. Maybe a quick 5-7 min video of your opinion Viper?

    • @Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism
      @Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm no Viper, but I can tell you that SC2 is much more "micro" focused since the economic aspect is really simplified with only two resources. It compensates by featuring a greater variety of units with lots of abilities on cooldowns which I've always found a bit gimmicky. The other main difference is the existence of only three races, which despite being fundamentally different, results in only six possible combinations, including three mirrors. This makes strategizing somewhat trivial.

  • @itsprudhvirazz
    @itsprudhvirazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play RDR2. Best game to chill and play. doesn't have great story though.

  • @smugshrug
    @smugshrug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how to use mangudai effectively: juke like a god

  • @ajmg1993
    @ajmg1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its like 1 year ago and enjoy to watch some random videos from the aoe2 community ;D

  • @Crushnaut
    @Crushnaut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some chill games I have played recently:
    Outer Wilds - 100% playable via controller, great emersion, puzzle exploration game... Probably my favourite game i have played in a long time
    Dicey Dungeons - quirky rng puzzle game (FTL is in the same vein as this), 100% playable on a controller
    Terraria - platformer / 2d minecraft, 100% playable on controller

  • @ferrariramsgobrrr
    @ferrariramsgobrrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you considered playing Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge?

  • @ShogunMura
    @ShogunMura 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some comments on the Witcher, first is cool but a lot of running around and buggy, 2 has a different combat and found it hard to play, would say Witcher 3 would maybe be your best bet. Would be fun to watch 👍🏽. Total war would be fun to watch but very heavy once you get far into a game I think. Crusader kings 2 is definitely one of the best RTS’ out there, a lot to do if you can get into that style of games

  • @ThommyMr
    @ThommyMr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yesss witcher 3 is amazing! Just put the difficulty on a lower level, sit back and explore the world. Would love to watch that

    • @dungvuanh6417
      @dungvuanh6417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just mastered your avoid skill and parry, all mode will be the same to you

    • @CptSquirrel
      @CptSquirrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lowest,difficulity really? Even on normal, raiders die to 2 quick attacks.

    • @dungvuanh6417
      @dungvuanh6417 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh and I forgot, some may think roll in this game work like dark souls but it doesn't, no invincible frame for you, specially when you fight again human enemies

    • @ThommyMr
      @ThommyMr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Captain Squirrel i said lower difficulty, not lowest. I wouldnt recommend death march as the difficulty for the first playthrough if you want to take it easy?

  • @ruler898
    @ruler898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Obviously you just have to casually play through Zelda Ocarina of time. For real though it'd be cool if you played some other games. I'd even welcome it on the youtube channel
    Edit: Also some good casual games that are good for streaming are Rimworld or FTL. I'd say stronghold but the campaigns are kinda meh in my books

  • @Michal235
    @Michal235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mangudai bonus vs siege is stupid. They should deal no more than 2 dmg per shot.

  • @akwinter
    @akwinter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see The Viper play FTL. Maybe that’s weird but I think the AOE 2 skills would translate well and the commentary would be hilarious. Rimworld would also be interesting.

  • @lumptydumpty6992
    @lumptydumpty6992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s so nice about being 900/1200 Elo is I never have to worry about finding a game. I found a 4v4 at 4am in 1 minute 20 seconds the other day😂

  • @karanojin
    @karanojin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you played any xcom or xcom2? recommended
    edit: just got to the part where you know of it. anyway, it's a fun turn-based tactical combat game with some light overworld/base strategy management. i really like playing it in ironman so that my choices matter more and i can't revert to saves.

  • @darkaquatus
    @darkaquatus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look at the relic placement, holy crap. How is that remotely fair???

  • @FeersYouTube
    @FeersYouTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vipi you should try Northgard. It's strategy game, but chill and relax as you wish. And it's about vikings.

  • @retrofly9
    @retrofly9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are skirms/Onager ever be a good combination against the Mangudai?

    • @TheBikeOnTheMoon
      @TheBikeOnTheMoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's possible, he should have mixed some skirm with halberdier to avoid being kited like that

  • @MShepherd88
    @MShepherd88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed someone asked this in the chat, but wouldn't elite skirms and onagers been more successful instead of halbs? Maybe opponent was worried about Viper making a transition to light cavalry.

  • @kleinfeicht
    @kleinfeicht 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy scheiße.. this is in so many ways wrong .. where di you come from?

  • @brainwasher3742
    @brainwasher3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To the list of game suggestions. I’d like to add Braid.

  • @dark666matter89
    @dark666matter89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi please try Anno 1404(Dawn of Discovery)!

  • @cotonhogoncalves9813
    @cotonhogoncalves9813 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    MANGUDAI MONSTERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! neutralize that charge was freaking awesome vipi

  • @SoaringStranger
    @SoaringStranger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls tell counter for magudai spam? thanx a lot in advance :)

  • @ivanmetal
    @ivanmetal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use mongols almost every time I play AoE, so watching you using mangudais is kind of relaxing xD. And why you not try FF7???

  • @weylin6
    @weylin6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    play Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, it's a lot like AoE2 in economy, but the units are different

  • @evanwallman
    @evanwallman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:05 great fight
    13:23 and we chilling, as the kids say these days

  • @ZakkyB
    @ZakkyB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the purpose of patrolling the mangudai near the monk?

  • @sabatuur8791
    @sabatuur8791 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play Gremlins Inc. or Monaco: What's yours is mine with your teammates. Lots of fun, in Gremlins Inc. also lots of blaming.

  • @DangerDucking
    @DangerDucking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endless Sky! (for relax and enjoy single player game), Free open space space rpg sorta thingy

  • @N1ckelton
    @N1ckelton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super Mario 64 16-star speedrun
    Might be the sweetspot between relaxing and challenging.

  • @ChocolateMilkCultLeader
    @ChocolateMilkCultLeader 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Viper thumbnails are becoming G

  • @dimitrikemitsky
    @dimitrikemitsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assassin's Creed, witcher, horizon zero dawn, dark souls, red dead 2, gta 5, portal. All good stuff.

  • @LynchedGamers
    @LynchedGamers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you highlight farming villagers and use a hotkey, what are you doing?

  • @ProclonePlaysEUW
    @ProclonePlaysEUW 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Mans Sky is a game where you lay back with a controller in your hand and explore. or you can try dark souls 3 11

  • @Patchnote2.0
    @Patchnote2.0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Portal 2 with Daut sounds incredible. I hope whatever it gets saved for comes soon!

  • @dr38
    @dr38 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Viper i suggest u to play Company of Heroes 2.. Micro management real time strategy ;)

  • @JoaoVitorXA
    @JoaoVitorXA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Far Cry 3 or 4 would be great. Terraria is a fun one aswell.

  • @LynchedGamers
    @LynchedGamers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Mod swaps the UI so the map is in the middle?

  • @nichtda4522
    @nichtda4522 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slay the spire is a very strategic deep game, with no apm needed, so pretty chill. But much to learn

  • @forcedlevy
    @forcedlevy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "he was doing the right thing he just sucked" - viper

  • @dungvuanh6417
    @dungvuanh6417 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    TW1 combat is suck, but the stories and atmosphere is amazing specially chapter 1 and 4

  • @peterpanov2417
    @peterpanov2417 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not homm3 is a chill game and you can interact with chat

  • @am5455
    @am5455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Viper microing Mangudai? Yeesh.

  • @ruffymaru
    @ruffymaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if that's a good idea to add some Hussar to this army. I tried to go full Mangudai before the 30 min mark, but the numbers weren't enough to do it.

  • @mohamedmoussa499
    @mohamedmoussa499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    would your foe be in a better spot had he gone mass skirmish instead of mass spike? and rams rather than onagers?

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like Stellaris could be the sort of game Viper wants for more laid back play such a chill game with time for chat. Maybe even a bit too slow tbh.

    • @EmperorSigismund
      @EmperorSigismund 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get all the Team Secret boys in and watch them destroy the galaxy.

  • @lfn1016
    @lfn1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tower defense games are good if you want to just sit back relax and play.

  • @Roechelrochen
    @Roechelrochen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to add to the thousands of game suggestions you already got on Twitch and will get here:
    Settlers 4 is a pretty chill old school game (good music too)
    There should be a newer steam version too, although I am not sure how buggy that one is
    New thumbnails are good^^

  • @david-reynerhow5039
    @david-reynerhow5039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    animal crossing new horizons pls! super chill.

  • @keny4281
    @keny4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    viper please play star wars galactic battleground

  • @jyri3837
    @jyri3837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    heroes of might and magic 3

  • @IberianCraftsman
    @IberianCraftsman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont get why he destroys the wall

  • @ignis488
    @ignis488 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    vipah has a 4v4 heroes 3 with all the guys sometime, like 12 or 24h stream

  • @st.p.2667
    @st.p.2667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prison architect sounds good btw. Thumbnails are nice but personally I come for the gameplay, serious or not and the chill

  • @micheledellaira4306
    @micheledellaira4306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg TheViper playing The Witcher? Better than sex :D

  • @kadircanyldz3846
    @kadircanyldz3846 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you could play Mindustry, it is some sort of tycoon games with strategy

  • @DanishCamp
    @DanishCamp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you ever use siege only against a Civ that has a bonus against siege?

  • @RolfReibach
    @RolfReibach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play th pro scater 2, warcraft 3 or dota pleeees