@@fryingraijin Do people not think Shanks can STILL be the good guy if he is secretly a holy knight? The Shanks community all yap nonstop about stabs but not even once do they think it's possible Shanks could be the one to BACKSTAB the gorosei someday where they least expect???? Smh lol
perhaps this is the reason why Oda had Luffy clash with Fuji 19:30 to indirectly inform the fans that in terms of Luffy clashing with his allies, that is how it's going to be. To set up the meeting between him and Shanks.
Why would you clone it as a baby ? Why not grow an adult version in a vat ? So you don't have to raize a baby ? Why would they dress it in baby clothes ?
A lot of this just feels way too messy for one piece. Everything has come together way too smoothly at this point in the story, there’s no way oda has something this messy cooked up
Right, he was a baby when Roger found him. As in no knowledge of his birth family. Which means any of twin/clone/some sort of device that can change identities but can't make arms disappear.
If he had been powered-up by some special ritual at God Valley, it didn't seem to manifest during his time with Roger's crew. Plus, before recent events isn't he the most recent Yonko? True, he might have biding his time, and who did he replace? (Assuming that there are always at least 4 Yonkos.)
I think this has to do with Joyboy’s dominion over Zunesha not Imus. Since when we see Zunesha in Wano he basically says I’m sorry Joyboy when he hears the drums of liberation. I saw a theory that Joyboy sent out the mink tribe to eventually meet them at Wano, potentially to enact the Ancient weapon, but Zunesha didn’t make it in time to act out Joyboys will. This would mean he was “cursed” for the sin of not making it in time to save the world by the enacting of the ancient weapon. Joyboy because he realized the minks would not be able to defend themselves except during full moons, sent Zunesha to wander the seas until his return when then again the minks would be able to live out the use of the Ancient weapon in Wano. If it a mole type weapon maybe they are the only race able to wield it??? Either way Zunesha was forced to wander the sea IMO to protect the only race than can control the ancient weapon sort of like only Shirahoshi is Poseidon as a fishman. Who knows either way Oda will cook 🫡
My shot in the dark theory is that shanks and stabs were once one person, but were split by the power of a devil fruit when they were a baby. Something like the duality duality fruit.
Shanks poster had 'Dead or Alive' on it. Well, if it's him why not 'Alive Only' will be making more sense since he's a higher rank even amongst celestial dragon?
8:38 this could be an interesting link to why Moria was targeted after Marineford despite being one of the only warlords to take his job seriously at that battle.
I'm not sure if anyone has told you the correction or not, but the giant's name isn't "Bogi", rather TCB made an error and forgot to finish the sound effect bubbles for the Giant scenes, so the sound effect got translated literally as "bogi" when in English it's more like "Crack!" "Snap!" It's showing that she's breaking their bones.
Perhaps some kind of ritual was involved when the 20 kingdoms joined together, and now anyone from one of those bloodlines is subject to Imu's ability, with Imu being able to use this connection to grant abilities to people or even strip them away and kill the person. Shanks being a Figarland would mean he would be vulnerable to it also.
The only problem with Imu having some sort of soul manipulation fruit is that it's almost identical to Big Mom. I would hope Oda can do something more original for the final villain.
Give IMU the DEVIL devil fruit model and his main source of power is making pacts with people to make them stronger mirroring luffy bringing together as allies two sides of the same coin
Imo I feel like with parallels in one piece people tend to forget that paralleled arcs don't go in the same direction. The opposite happens in the current timeline of the event it's being compared to. What I like about the thriller bark thing is that Oars and Loki are in similar situations but in thriller bark the power of the sun God was placed into a giant meanwhile in elbaf a giant is claiming to have sun God powers.
I think that when Shanks came to 5 elders to talk about a certain pirate he actually made a deal with them. Thats why he is now on elbapf with a god´s knight
It could be possible that the gorosei were god's knights that were stromg enough to alleviate themselves to the role of gorosei judged by Imu's will. This is possible because Saturn got erased and we saw his replacement was none other than St Garling himself, a former holy knight who was likely extremely powerful. This also explains why the gorosei have to actually try in their role as they are likely aware that someone such as Garling could replace them if Imu finds them not worthy enough.
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What are the chances there's another imitation style fruit? We know Bon Clay is still alive, and there's the Kitsune fruit from Carina Devon... Is there another one?
maybe the holy knight Shanks is a part of Garling's powers with him being a phase of the moon with Garling having multiple bodies like Vegapunk with his bodies being like phases of the moon
Silhouettes aren't good evidence kaido and big mom didn't look like their silhouettes. Neither did Loki. Also, big mom already has the soul power that basically does what you're saying Imu can, so it can't be possible.
given Imu's shapeshifting and Imu's room being called the phantom room I think Imu has the bakemono devil fruit as the word bakemono means phantom and the control of Shanks is your traditional ghostly procession powers.
One thing this theory doesn't explain is how Shanks' crewmates would not notice that he's gone, since, y'know, they're always together... Also didn't they just set sail right before the Strawhats arrived at Elbaf?
The silhouette on the last panels of chapter 1121 shows "Stabs" holding a sword with his left hand. This proves it's not Shanks Also, the SBS where Oda avoided answering the question, brought up the point about Shanks can stop Kaido in the New World, and then show up to Marineford in Paradise on the same day. This means Stabs stopped Kaido. Another thing is that Shanks arrived at Marineford completely unscathed, as if he didn't have any encounter with another Yonko at all. And I doubt Shanks would just have a chit chat with Kaido like he did Whitebeard. Kaido would definately take the opportunity to fight Shanks. The only info we have about Kaido vs "Shanks" is from the government headquarters. Not a trustworthy source. Especially if the twin is one of their own top secret agents that conveniently looks like Shanks. Is there any point in the manga after Marineford where Shanks mentioned Kaido or Kaido mentioned Shanks? I don't recall this to be the case either
Reading the first half of this i really wanted to disagree with the kaido part, but i think you just sold me on that idea. It also makes sense whem you consider stabs probably isnt common knowledge to anyone outside of the gods knights or elders, and i think sengoku was the one who said "shanks stopped kaido" so i could see it being that the elders told sengoku "shanks is with kaido" because they sent stabs there, and him just relaying the (false) information he was given
good thinking but there's a few things that suggest otherwise. A big thing is that when Kaido was remembering the greats who left a long lasting impression on him it showed a silhouette of Shanks (with a clear scar) which would suggest it is the original shanks who had this interaction. Also there are many things we don't know that could introduce ways of traveling extremely quickly like the rainbow roads and summoning circles etc. so there could still be a reason as to how he got there so quickly. Other than that though it's all just speculation till we get more information which is the great thing about One Piece haha
It aint a clone, that would be so ass lmao. The celestial dragons, who are all about blood purity are suddenly all good with them being cloned to be a tool? Come on now
I mean it being a clone would make a lot of sense. Oda likes to run things back a lot. So the seraphim being cloned of the warlords and the pacifistas being cloned in the image of Kuma almost supports the idea that this would be a clone of theirs which is red haired and maybe Garland was even before shanks. The seraphim and pacifistas are/were extremely powerful soldiers.
So this will seem a bit random at first, but i think that it may be possible that roger wispered tp shanks that he needed to go back to the celestial dragons and tell them that he was being held aginst his will so he could be trained for the future, which would tie into why shanks would be working with them, even though he doesnt necessarily want to, its to maintain his cover for when he needs it, OR there could be a celestial dragon that has the ability to control people, perhaps his father
Shanks is a rat. How tf did he get griffin in the first place and why does it match the blades of Garling and danks? He didn't have it in romance dawn.
shanks is odas golden boy, i don't think shanks will be evil, probably the reason why telenovela evil twin even exists. so oda can have his cake and eat it too
I don't hate parts of this theory, but "messing with souls" is just big mom's power which was already the upgrade over Moria. Imu did fuck up Cobra and Sabo with that devil tail attack that looked suspiciously like what Moria used to murk Oars Jr. at Marineford, but I think their ability is going to have to be something OP to really be a threatening final villain, like the Ocean God or some shit.
One thing people don't talk about enough is that not only is Oda a master of foreshadowing, he's also a master of HINDSIGHT, that means he connnects back to things and retroactively makes them into related things. Nami's rope is 100% haki imbued in it. Except, not Conqueror's but Armament in my opinion. The reason is simple we know that haki has levels and it's not just a "visual representation". Sentomaru stated in Return to Sabaody "their haki got STRONGER" when the monster trio took down the Pacifista with one hit and they weren't depicted with black coating Level 1 Invisible armor (this is how we make pre-timeskip make sense for not using black coating) Level 2 black coating Level 3 "emission", the "palm thrust" we've seen characters use, like Rayleigh, Sentomaru, the Boa sisters, the Admirals... Level 4 Ryuo, internal destruction The rope fits into level 3. The emission BLASTS people away and that's what Nami's rope does, albeit a bit more literal By the same token we can argue that ever "flying sword slash" is just Haki, and that makes sense because HAKI IS EVERYTHING in the One Piece world.
Hear me out crazy theory i have the vegapunk satellites are based on god knights York = mannmeyer flash back in god valley looks like york and they have the same smile. Lilith = In the new manga chapters the other god night next to stabs looks like lilith but in bandages and is quick to get angry like the vegapunk version. Others remain to be seen and funny enough this is my first theory so please go easy on me lol.
STABBS CAN'T BE A CLONE GUYS CLONING WAS INVENTED AFTER SHANKS WAS BORN. yes it matters because lineage factor and DNA aren't the exact same thing. Vegapunk said they need blood to clone. They could for stussy and miss bakin, they could with the shishibukai and green blood. The celestials lost shanks as a baby, therefore no blood, therefore no clone. I still might be wrong somehow tho this is still one piece.
I think you're confused, "lineage factor" is just the OP version of DNA. You can get that from blood which is what VP uses. In terms of the seraphim, they use "green blood" to give them the powers of a devil fruit from another DF user, also using DNA. But green blood isn't real blood, it's a creation of VP and is only used with the seraphim. Stussy doesn't have green blood. While they might not have blood from a baby Shanks, they could easily have hair or other organic material that they could get DNA from. They could even have blood samples stored, there are other ways than to simply have the actual baby on hand.
A theory on Elbaf is that God Enel might make his move on Elbaf, and his return is pretty much close; he could come down on Elbaf with his army of space pirates and declare war on anyone, even if it's Evil Shanks and the Holy Knights. We don't know much about the space pirates or how strong they might be since many years have passed since Enel went to the moon.
I feel like it's not a twin. These theories just have no narrative payoff. I feel like Oda has a lot on his plate for what was supposed to be a short adventure.
Hard to think a haki user like shanks is being manipulated like that without any of the Roger pirates not knowing. I'm pretty sure even Roger and rayleigh would never let that happen
Is hard to assume Roger pirates remained in shank's life after disbanded...look at buggy...shanks knew early he ain't the one and wasn't the one so whatever it is that he is doing just needs to be explained Shanks is a wild card, and perfect for any kind of plotline and plot twist oda would like to throw...
@yellowmesh7821 buts it's more hard to assume rayleigh and scopper haven't picked up on shanks being a holy knight especially since shanks has seen rayleigh as an adult. It would be a great plot twist but so is the shanks twin brother or clone theory. The scar not coming over the eye is a big give away bc oda doesn't make those type of mistakes , especially twice since we seen no scar in the reverie and now
If the 2 "God Knights" got a task to achieve something in Elbaf from the Gorosei, they would be brieifed about their target Loki and that the SW crew is on the island. They would know who and where Loki is instead of just asking "where is a guy named Loki?". If they knew that SW crew is on the island they wouldn't just attack guards that can alert the whole island, cause Luffy will teabag them easily. Long arm tribe tried to summon a "demon" to help them but failed. It looks like Gorosei and God Knights are demons and can be summoned. IMO someone in Elbaf, red enough books to succesfully summon "lesser demons" to Free Loki. Gorosei and God Knights are demonic and if summoned they have to obey the contract. I think that Anje is anonymously sexting Loki as Mosa and she is the one that summoned the God Knights by making a deal with a devil. Summoned Godknights are clueless about the situation they are in, they Don't know that SW crew is here and they don't know who Loki is, they are just forced to fulfill the "devil" contract to free some guy called Loki.
I very much believe that it's not a mind control situation. Since Shank's crew is what Luffy is modelling his after - it would be next to impossible for Shanks to disappear for long periods of time without anyone noticing. I think the whole setup with the Figarland plot is to introduce Shanks having a brother (either a twin or younger brother).
Lol maybe Shanks is multiple people like Blackbeard and Cavendish. but it's weird, Odas being sneaky with the evil Shanks eye and arm. I wonder if the Croc Seraphim having the scar on his nose is a hint.
If you consider how Oda likes to write from the pre timeskip aka this circular storytelling. If we consider the story when we met Brogy and Dory, Luffy and crew were chased by the shadowy group and were attacked by nr 3 and her assistant. This has clear connection to the knights but remember that we got to meet somebody who were somebody else, something else she showed to the world aka nico robin so I am thinking Oda following similiar motive where Shanks is somebody else what he's telling to the world
If what you say about Imu being able to control a living soul is true, then why didn’t he used the ability on Cobra or Sabo? He could have Sabo destroy the revolutionary army from the inside for example, or at least deal some major, irreparable damage.
Is it possible that Oda didn't show us the full power of Shanks (only foreshadowing he might be the strongest person in the world) only to swith to a Shanks-doll scenario? It's too early for such thing.
The biggest problem with the theory that Shanks being controlled is that with the time frame we just saw him in the last couple days with the rest of his crew. We feel like EggHead was a long time and was months ago... however they were only there a day and that was only a couple days ago. During this we also saw Shanks on Elbaph before heading off shortly before Luffy got there. We don't really know if its Shanks, a clone, or his brother because Oda has been sneaky about the view we have of this person so far. I'm personally guessing now that its probably a brother. Though it might just be a part of Shanks that we don't know much of now.
Im not sold on much either way with shanks, But a lot of the clone talk has me wondering if Blackbeard is a clone of rocks. If rocks is truly dead theres a reason he hasnt been shown. He could have been tossed out as a failed clone as it doesn't seem that he shares the same body type and viewed as a failure. And the fact marco said something about his body not being normal could lend to this idea because he's not a natural born human.
Shower theory: joyboys sentencing of Zunesha is critical in the final saga for the minks are the only race than can control the ancient weapon in Wano. when we see Zunesha in Wano he basically says I’m sorry Joyboy when he hears the drums of liberation. I saw a theory that Joyboy sent out the mink tribe to eventually meet them at Wano, potentially to enact the Ancient weapon, but Zunesha didn’t make it in time to act out Joyboys will. This would mean he was “cursed” for the sin of not making it in time to save the world by the enacting of the ancient weapon. Joyboy because he realized the minks would not be able to defend themselves except during full moons, sent Zunesha to wander the seas to protect them until his return when then again the minks would be able to live out the use of the Ancient weapon in Wano. If it a mole type weapon maybe they are the only race able to wield it??? Either way Zunesha was forced to wander the sea to protect the only race than can control the ancient weapon sort of like only Shirahoshi is Poseidon as a fishman controlling the Sea Beasts. Who knows either way Oda will cook 🫡
Shanks clone =Man with burn scar and that scar will be the Celestial Dragon emblem branded into his left eye like they brand their slaves backs as they did Boa Hancock and the Sun Pirates
Okay, but what about the potential for Stabs to actually be a clone of Garling and not Shanks, or even a genetically engineered child with whoever Shanks’s mom and Garling. This way both evil twin and clone theory could be right, and imo it’s the only way something like evil twin would happen in op imo
Ya that could explain maybe both shanks and stabs are clones of garling and stabs is the only clone they can control meanwhile maybe they can only control shanks if he is near them or something like shanks does have the free will right now but can be taken away whenever garling or imu wants to if he is in close contact
Here is my Shanks Duality theory. theory. Shanks isn’t the type to act without a reason. If he asked Luffy to fight him, it’s probably because he’s protecting something or can’t fully control himself. This could be Oda’s way of setting up an emotional clash between them.
Every character Luffy has fought against opposed everything he wants to do of their own free will. Oda is not going to break that pattern. When Luffy and Shanks fight it will be on their own terms and because they want to and are willing to kill for it.
The reason I don’t think it’s Shanks is because Shanks’ crew is strong and I doubt they’d just let him disappear like that without chasing him, especially after they JUST left Wano to go after the One Piece. Do I want it to be Shanks? Yes, the story would be so much better with evil Shanks or main antagonist Shanks. I don’t think it’s impossible he is being controlled. We saw members of CP0 being reluctant with Dripper, Lucci, and Kaku. We also saw that Lucci had a black scarf. Maybe he’s using some of Imu’s power or something. Maybe Imu is able to control people. But Lucci also didn’t teleport with a big display of Haki. I’m still trying to find out why Shanks was crying to Roger so maybe that could have something to do with it too. It makes the most sense to me, and probably for the story, if Shanks is a clone instead of a sibling (if those are our other two options). In terms of theatrical drama, I don’t think this is going to turn into a soap opera. If this was Bleach, I could totally see it being his brother, but Oda doesn’t have that much melodrama in his stories. Sanji’s Whole Cake arc was the closest thing we got and we barely got a confrontation with Sanji’s family. But I do think Oda wants everyone to assume they are related. I just hope it is more creative than a sibling and I hope the answer gives us insights on lore and history. If it is a clone, I there is so much more flexibility in possibilities that Oda could be in his wheelhouse for.
I think Danks is Figarland’s son. Young Figarland looks like Shanks but I think it’s more like how Zoro and Ushimaru look alike but he’s not Zoro’s father. Or if they are brothers then I think the Skoll and Hati parallel is great. Shanks chases the sun (Luffy) and Hati chases the (moon) Blackbeard? Blackbeard kills Danks and Luffy thinks it’s actually Shanks. In a way this is what causes Ragnarok.
I think Stabs will be named Sakasu or Scars in English Sakasu means Circus and Shanks brother Buggy is a clown Also a play on Sakazu-ki, the man Shanks stopped at Marineford Another variation could be Sukasa Mi kasa es su Kasa My hat is your hat “My house is your house” in spanish
Saint Garling Figarland's hairstyle looks like a star from the front and looks like a moon from the side as well for more parallelism. Luffy represents the Sun God of the One Piece World and Imu respectively represents the moon as the Sea Devil of the One Piece World! The moon is what controls the tides of the ocean. K.O.L believes that Imu’s Demonic power as the Sea Devil is the 1000 Demon Parade. Which grants demonic abilities to the Holy God Knights. Shanks's twin brother could possibly be Ginny’s husband and Bonney’s biological father. He would still be old enough twelve years ago to SA Ginny and have her conceive Bonney. Maybe the female Holy God Knight next to him is also a Ginny clone similar to Lilith?
Mosa means "Copy" in Korean In Japanese English translation "The Bastard". Also Fierce, wildness, become furious, rave, rush, and strength. Most people are taking the translation as "mosamosa" meaning hairy. Maybe Lokis friend "Mosa" is actually Stabs who is a shanks clone.
Maybe the "Shanks clone" was not a clone or Shanks twin's but Garling with a younger appearance. The guy who said, "I need to talk about a certain pirate" was Garling, but with a younger appearance. That's why he does not have the scars.
Why would garling appear younger ? Also when garling came to the room to address others that he is a fellow elder literally everyone was stunned why would he appear younger to the same people?? He can just come as the regular garling
What if all the Red hair pirates are clones. Hence why shanks went after all established pirates bc he knew they were clones or some type of connection
That summoned lady has a bandage bandage fruit or the mummy mummy fruit. It either saps energy, or squeezes super tight til it breaks through the person. Idk if Shanks or Stabs is a literal puppet the way Doflamingo controlled Riku. But a ‘puppet’ because he is obedient to the Gorosei (possible clone is okay, like S-Hawk, S-Bear and their “free-will”. Zoro stated “you’re more human than him” when talking to S-Hawk, I bet that is the way Stabs is. CP0 against Kaido said “I envy you” when regarding his free will too. All varying degrees of “freedom”
Yeah this video is a huge stretch. I highly doubt that it’s shanks. Realistically it makes more sense that this is either Shank’s brother or that he may even be a clone. And if a clone, then he’s probably a clone of Garling himself, and raised as a son. But the twin theory might be the right one. Maybe both are clones of Garling rather than sons, maybe have children wouldn’t guarantee that they would have Garling’s potential strength so opted to be cloned so that his strength could be passed on. Shanks brother is probably gonna have a name similar to Garling considering Roger and as the one to probably name Shanks.
Bro twin theory makes ultimate sense think about it Twin Kills Shanks right in front of Luffy ,, Luffy peaks and gives us the fight we secretly yern for Luffy VS sHANKS
Roger said to Pedro " everyone has a role, wait until yours come" and Shanks role is to clear the road to the new pirate king but ..if the holy knights know about him why didn't Garling make a move to take back his first or second replica of himself ( or simply his son) after Roger execution? He was still young and weak to fight him..why they let him grew up to be what he is right now? And this is how your theories are looking valid.
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@@DaksSake I don’t WANT Shanks to be evil.
But, wouldn’t that just make it that much more interesting.?
i believe i got an idea! if the Redline is giant rudder then what if dak's sake is a giant clown?!
That ad came out of nowhere at 6:49 lol
@@fryingraijin Do people not think Shanks can STILL be the good guy if he is secretly a holy knight? The Shanks community all yap nonstop about stabs but not even once do they think it's possible Shanks could be the one to BACKSTAB the gorosei someday where they least expect???? Smh lol
perhaps this is the reason why Oda had Luffy clash with Fuji 19:30 to indirectly inform the fans that in terms of Luffy clashing with his allies, that is how it's going to be. To set up the meeting between him and Shanks.
Years ago I had a meme theory that Shanks had a stoner twin brother named red-eyed danks, it's nice to see I wasn't that far off
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We haven't seen evil twin turn down the green stuff yet 😂
Calling it. Shanks is a clone. They cloned their strongest warrior and gave them away as prize.
@@mrbubbles6468 that.. that actually makes sense. Considering the scum bags the CD’s are.
Im so sick of clones i hope its a twin
Why would you clone it as a baby ? Why not grow an adult version in a vat ? So you don't have to raize a baby ? Why would they dress it in baby clothes ?
@@godiloveminininjas4278 I'm sick of twins, so I hope it's a clone. May the better one win.
@LegenDairy89likely because they can’t grow them to be adults to start with.
A lot of this just feels way too messy for one piece. Everything has come together way too smoothly at this point in the story, there’s no way oda has something this messy cooked up
I might be wrong, but didn’t you just ignore, that shanks was his entire childhood with Gol D Roger and his crew sailing the world ?
@@martinkoro4252 before that though shanks was originally found by Roger and brought on board during god valley, where garling also happened to be.
Dawg he was literally 1 yr old@@Lethal-Beef
Right, he was a baby when Roger found him. As in no knowledge of his birth family. Which means any of twin/clone/some sort of device that can change identities but can't make arms disappear.
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If he had been powered-up by some special ritual at God Valley, it didn't seem to manifest during his time with Roger's crew. Plus, before recent events isn't he the most recent Yonko? True, he might have biding his time, and who did he replace? (Assuming that there are always at least 4 Yonkos.)
If Imu has this power to control others, it could tie into why Zunesha committed the crime in the past and even why he’s forced to wander the sea
I think this has to do with Joyboy’s dominion over Zunesha not Imus. Since when we see Zunesha in Wano he basically says I’m sorry Joyboy when he hears the drums of liberation. I saw a theory that Joyboy sent out the mink tribe to eventually meet them at Wano, potentially to enact the Ancient weapon, but Zunesha didn’t make it in time to act out Joyboys will. This would mean he was “cursed” for the sin of not making it in time to save the world by the enacting of the ancient weapon. Joyboy because he realized the minks would not be able to defend themselves except during full moons, sent Zunesha to wander the seas until his return when then again the minks would be able to live out the use of the Ancient weapon in Wano. If it a mole type weapon maybe they are the only race able to wield it??? Either way Zunesha was forced to wander the sea IMO to protect the only race than can control the ancient weapon sort of like only Shirahoshi is Poseidon as a fishman. Who knows either way Oda will cook 🫡
My shot in the dark theory is that shanks and stabs were once one person, but were split by the power of a devil fruit when they were a baby. Something like the duality duality fruit.
I don't think it's Shanks being mainpulated. Since Shanks said they were just about to set sail when kid arrived to Elbaf
It's as easy as he was forced to come back to Elbaf because he is under control of Imu
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Shanks poster had 'Dead or Alive' on it.
Well, if it's him why not 'Alive Only' will be making more sense since he's a higher rank even amongst celestial dragon?
I mean there is no one that can kill him really
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8:38 this could be an interesting link to why Moria was targeted after Marineford despite being one of the only warlords to take his job seriously at that battle.
I'm not sure if anyone has told you the correction or not, but the giant's name isn't "Bogi", rather TCB made an error and forgot to finish the sound effect bubbles for the Giant scenes, so the sound effect got translated literally as "bogi" when in English it's more like "Crack!" "Snap!" It's showing that she's breaking their bones.
Perhaps some kind of ritual was involved when the 20 kingdoms joined together, and now anyone from one of those bloodlines is subject to Imu's ability, with Imu being able to use this connection to grant abilities to people or even strip them away and kill the person. Shanks being a Figarland would mean he would be vulnerable to it also.
The only problem with Imu having some sort of soul manipulation fruit is that it's almost identical to Big Mom. I would hope Oda can do something more original for the final villain.
What if Imu isn't the final villain?
Give IMU the DEVIL devil fruit model and his main source of power is making pacts with people to make them stronger mirroring luffy bringing together as allies two sides of the same coin
Imo I feel like with parallels in one piece people tend to forget that paralleled arcs don't go in the same direction. The opposite happens in the current timeline of the event it's being compared to. What I like about the thriller bark thing is that Oars and Loki are in similar situations but in thriller bark the power of the sun God was placed into a giant meanwhile in elbaf a giant is claiming to have sun God powers.
I think that when Shanks came to 5 elders to talk about a certain pirate he actually made a deal with them. Thats why he is now on elbapf with a god´s knight
It could be possible that the gorosei were god's knights that were stromg enough to alleviate themselves to the role of gorosei judged by Imu's will. This is possible because Saturn got erased and we saw his replacement was none other than St Garling himself, a former holy knight who was likely extremely powerful. This also explains why the gorosei have to actually try in their role as they are likely aware that someone such as Garling could replace them if Imu finds them not worthy enough.
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What are the chances there's another imitation style fruit? We know Bon Clay is still alive, and there's the Kitsune fruit from Carina Devon... Is there another one?
maybe the holy knight Shanks is a part of Garling's powers with him being a phase of the moon with Garling having multiple bodies like Vegapunk with his bodies being like phases of the moon
'Joy boy rope level haki' is a sentence I'll use for the rest of times.
Silhouettes aren't good evidence kaido and big mom didn't look like their silhouettes. Neither did Loki. Also, big mom already has the soul power that basically does what you're saying Imu can, so it can't be possible.
given Imu's shapeshifting and Imu's room being called the phantom room I think Imu has the bakemono devil fruit as the word bakemono means phantom and the control of Shanks is your traditional ghostly procession powers.
One thing this theory doesn't explain is how Shanks' crewmates would not notice that he's gone, since, y'know, they're always together... Also didn't they just set sail right before the Strawhats arrived at Elbaf?
The silhouette on the last panels of chapter 1121 shows "Stabs" holding a sword with his left hand. This proves it's not Shanks
Also, the SBS where Oda avoided answering the question, brought up the point about Shanks can stop Kaido in the New World, and then show up to Marineford in Paradise on the same day. This means Stabs stopped Kaido.
Another thing is that Shanks arrived at Marineford completely unscathed, as if he didn't have any encounter with another Yonko at all.
And I doubt Shanks would just have a chit chat with Kaido like he did Whitebeard. Kaido would definately take the opportunity to fight Shanks.
The only info we have about Kaido vs "Shanks" is from the government headquarters. Not a trustworthy source. Especially if the twin is one of their own top secret agents that conveniently looks like Shanks.
Is there any point in the manga after Marineford where Shanks mentioned Kaido or Kaido mentioned Shanks? I don't recall this to be the case either
Yh Keido said red head stoped me to Yamato in a flash back when she was told ace died
Reading the first half of this i really wanted to disagree with the kaido part, but i think you just sold me on that idea. It also makes sense whem you consider stabs probably isnt common knowledge to anyone outside of the gods knights or elders, and i think sengoku was the one who said "shanks stopped kaido" so i could see it being that the elders told sengoku "shanks is with kaido" because they sent stabs there, and him just relaying the (false) information he was given
good thinking but there's a few things that suggest otherwise. A big thing is that when Kaido was remembering the greats who left a long lasting impression on him it showed a silhouette of Shanks (with a clear scar) which would suggest it is the original shanks who had this interaction. Also there are many things we don't know that could introduce ways of traveling extremely quickly like the rainbow roads and summoning circles etc. so there could still be a reason as to how he got there so quickly. Other than that though it's all just speculation till we get more information which is the great thing about One Piece haha
when kaido remembers shanks, he has a scar
@@mattb6616 yes thats because the shanks everyone knows has a scar if anyone wouldnt notice during the fight it would be kaido imo.
It aint a clone, that would be so ass lmao. The celestial dragons, who are all about blood purity are suddenly all good with them being cloned to be a tool? Come on now
Thank you!!! Thought I was the only one a clone would be pretty bland I prefer it to be actually shanks unfortunately 😅
I mean it being a clone would make a lot of sense. Oda likes to run things back a lot. So the seraphim being cloned of the warlords and the pacifistas being cloned in the image of Kuma almost supports the idea that this would be a clone of theirs which is red haired and maybe Garland was even before shanks. The seraphim and pacifistas are/were extremely powerful soldiers.
Oda can literally do anything he wants and the One Piece fandom will blindly accept it and call him a GOAT.
So this will seem a bit random at first, but i think that it may be possible that roger wispered tp shanks that he needed to go back to the celestial dragons and tell them that he was being held aginst his will so he could be trained for the future, which would tie into why shanks would be working with them, even though he doesnt necessarily want to, its to maintain his cover for when he needs it, OR there could be a celestial dragon that has the ability to control people, perhaps his father
reminds me of the Florian Triangle Red eyes Monster
Shanks has a spilt personality
Imu is really shanks on black beards shoulders in a overcoat.
Beware the mighty ShanksBeard!!😂
when you said “that’s why Shanks bet his arm” everything clicked. dope theory Dak
Plot twist, shanks is not a clone, everyone else is.
Shanks is a rat. How tf did he get griffin in the first place and why does it match the blades of Garling and danks? He didn't have it in romance dawn.
Rats do what Rats do
shanks is odas golden boy, i don't think shanks will be evil, probably the reason why telenovela evil twin even exists. so oda can have his cake and eat it too
It’s a common sword type, Roger had a similar sword too.
@@fastfouriertransform7790 maybe he needed a sword that was easier to use with one arm because he lost his arm.
Shanks already had it i mean he copies roger so @DarkLordScaryMan
I don't hate parts of this theory, but "messing with souls" is just big mom's power which was already the upgrade over Moria. Imu did fuck up Cobra and Sabo with that devil tail attack that looked suspiciously like what Moria used to murk Oars Jr. at Marineford, but I think their ability is going to have to be something OP to really be a threatening final villain, like the Ocean God or some shit.
One thing people don't talk about enough is that not only is Oda a master of foreshadowing, he's also a master of HINDSIGHT, that means he connnects back to things and retroactively makes them into related things. Nami's rope is 100% haki imbued in it. Except, not Conqueror's but Armament in my opinion.
The reason is simple we know that haki has levels and it's not just a "visual representation".
Sentomaru stated in Return to Sabaody "their haki got STRONGER" when the monster trio took down the Pacifista with one hit and they weren't depicted with black coating
Level 1 Invisible armor (this is how we make pre-timeskip make sense for not using black coating)
Level 2 black coating
Level 3 "emission", the "palm thrust" we've seen characters use, like Rayleigh, Sentomaru, the Boa sisters, the Admirals...
Level 4 Ryuo, internal destruction
The rope fits into level 3.
The emission BLASTS people away and that's what Nami's rope does, albeit a bit more literal
By the same token we can argue that ever "flying sword slash" is just Haki, and that makes sense because HAKI IS EVERYTHING in the One Piece world.
Hear me out crazy theory i have the vegapunk satellites are based on god knights
York = mannmeyer flash back in god valley looks like york and they have the same smile.
Lilith = In the new manga chapters the other god night next to stabs looks like lilith but in bandages and is quick to get angry like the vegapunk version.
Others remain to be seen and funny enough this is my first theory so please go easy on me lol.
STABBS CAN'T BE A CLONE GUYS CLONING WAS INVENTED AFTER SHANKS WAS BORN. yes it matters because lineage factor and DNA aren't the exact same thing. Vegapunk said they need blood to clone. They could for stussy and miss bakin, they could with the shishibukai and green blood. The celestials lost shanks as a baby, therefore no blood, therefore no clone. I still might be wrong somehow tho this is still one piece.
I think you're confused, "lineage factor" is just the OP version of DNA. You can get that from blood which is what VP uses. In terms of the seraphim, they use "green blood" to give them the powers of a devil fruit from another DF user, also using DNA. But green blood isn't real blood, it's a creation of VP and is only used with the seraphim. Stussy doesn't have green blood.
While they might not have blood from a baby Shanks, they could easily have hair or other organic material that they could get DNA from. They could even have blood samples stored, there are other ways than to simply have the actual baby on hand.
I love the fact that people think their parents were so lazy at naming them that they chose names like stabs or danks😂😂
I don’t think we should use the silhoets since they probably just a place holder, similar to Big Mom Kaido when Garp talked about them.
A theory on Elbaf is that God Enel might make his move on Elbaf, and his return is pretty much close; he could come down on Elbaf with his army of space pirates and declare war on anyone, even if it's Evil Shanks and the Holy Knights. We don't know much about the space pirates or how strong they might be since many years have passed since Enel went to the moon.
Last vid of the year and you end it with a banger, thanks for all the content bro happy new year!🎊🎈🎆
Third silhouette on the right looks a bit like shanks. Maybe because the pointy collar of the cape.
Am i the only one who wants shanks to actually be secretly a bad guy?
I feel like it's not a twin. These theories just have no narrative payoff. I feel like Oda has a lot on his plate for what was supposed to be a short adventure.
I think in God Valley you can only have a specific number of children. Shanks parents have twins and could only keep one child.🤔
Hard to think a haki user like shanks is being manipulated like that without any of the Roger pirates not knowing. I'm pretty sure even Roger and rayleigh would never let that happen
Is hard to assume Roger pirates remained in shank's life after disbanded...look at buggy...shanks knew early he ain't the one and wasn't the one so whatever it is that he is doing just needs to be explained
Shanks is a wild card, and perfect for any kind of plotline and plot twist oda would like to throw...
@yellowmesh7821 buts it's more hard to assume rayleigh and scopper haven't picked up on shanks being a holy knight especially since shanks has seen rayleigh as an adult. It would be a great plot twist but so is the shanks twin brother or clone theory. The scar not coming over the eye is a big give away bc oda doesn't make those type of mistakes , especially twice since we seen no scar in the reverie and now
If the 2 "God Knights" got a task to achieve something in Elbaf from the Gorosei, they would be brieifed about their target Loki and that the SW crew is on the island. They would know who and where Loki is instead of just asking "where is a guy named Loki?". If they knew that SW crew is on the island they wouldn't just attack guards that can alert the whole island, cause Luffy will teabag them easily.
Long arm tribe tried to summon a "demon" to help them but failed. It looks like Gorosei and God Knights are demons and can be summoned.
IMO someone in Elbaf, red enough books to succesfully summon "lesser demons" to Free Loki. Gorosei and God Knights are demonic and if summoned they have to obey the contract.
I think that Anje is anonymously sexting Loki as Mosa and she is the one that summoned the God Knights by making a deal with a devil.
Summoned Godknights are clueless about the situation they are in, they Don't know that SW crew is here and they don't know who Loki is, they are just forced to fulfill the "devil" contract to free some guy called Loki.
I very much believe that it's not a mind control situation. Since Shank's crew is what Luffy is modelling his after - it would be next to impossible for Shanks to disappear for long periods of time without anyone noticing. I think the whole setup with the Figarland plot is to introduce Shanks having a brother (either a twin or younger brother).
I dont want it to be shanks but i think it might be and its possibly for the greater good
Lol maybe Shanks is multiple people like Blackbeard and Cavendish. but it's weird, Odas being sneaky with the evil Shanks eye and arm. I wonder if the Croc Seraphim having the scar on his nose is a hint.
Great theory. Makes me think shanks stealing that fruit was probably in hopes of being set free/stopping the cycle
I came up with a theory that suggests Shanks IS the COIN!
Congrats again on the Manga rare Buggy! I was there, it was epic bro! And again greetings from Germany :)
If you consider how Oda likes to write from the pre timeskip aka this circular storytelling. If we consider the story when we met Brogy and Dory, Luffy and crew were chased by the shadowy group and were attacked by nr 3 and her assistant. This has clear connection to the knights but remember that we got to meet somebody who were somebody else, something else she showed to the world aka nico robin so I am thinking Oda following similiar motive where Shanks is somebody else what he's telling to the world
If what you say about Imu being able to control a living soul is true, then why didn’t he used the ability on Cobra or Sabo? He could have Sabo destroy the revolutionary army from the inside for example, or at least deal some major, irreparable damage.
God’s Knights when they see Loki has been freed:
Is it possible that Oda didn't show us the full power of Shanks (only foreshadowing he might be the strongest person in the world) only to swith to a Shanks-doll scenario? It's too early for such thing.
Biggest twist this is shanks. Red hearing might be he doesn’t have a devil fruit.
The biggest problem with the theory that Shanks being controlled is that with the time frame we just saw him in the last couple days with the rest of his crew. We feel like EggHead was a long time and was months ago... however they were only there a day and that was only a couple days ago. During this we also saw Shanks on Elbaph before heading off shortly before Luffy got there.
We don't really know if its Shanks, a clone, or his brother because Oda has been sneaky about the view we have of this person so far. I'm personally guessing now that its probably a brother. Though it might just be a part of Shanks that we don't know much of now.
Im not sold on much either way with shanks, But a lot of the clone talk has me wondering if Blackbeard is a clone of rocks. If rocks is truly dead theres a reason he hasnt been shown. He could have been tossed out as a failed clone as it doesn't seem that he shares the same body type and viewed as a failure. And the fact marco said something about his body not being normal could lend to this idea because he's not a natural born human.
I'll be waiting for this one to come true! Amazing theory Dak🔥
Shower theory: joyboys sentencing of Zunesha is critical in the final saga for the minks are the only race than can control the ancient weapon in Wano.
when we see Zunesha in Wano he basically says I’m sorry Joyboy when he hears the drums of liberation. I saw a theory that Joyboy sent out the mink tribe to eventually meet them at Wano, potentially to enact the Ancient weapon, but Zunesha didn’t make it in time to act out Joyboys will. This would mean he was “cursed” for the sin of not making it in time to save the world by the enacting of the ancient weapon. Joyboy because he realized the minks would not be able to defend themselves except during full moons, sent Zunesha to wander the seas to protect them until his return when then again the minks would be able to live out the use of the Ancient weapon in Wano. If it a mole type weapon maybe they are the only race able to wield it??? Either way Zunesha was forced to wander the sea to protect the only race than can control the ancient weapon sort of like only Shirahoshi is Poseidon as a fishman controlling the Sea Beasts. Who knows either way Oda will cook 🫡
Shanks clone =Man with burn scar and that scar will be the Celestial Dragon emblem branded into his left eye like they brand their slaves backs as they did Boa Hancock and the Sun Pirates
Okay, but what about the potential for Stabs to actually be a clone of Garling and not Shanks, or even a genetically engineered child with whoever Shanks’s mom and Garling. This way both evil twin and clone theory could be right, and imo it’s the only way something like evil twin would happen in op imo
Ya that could explain maybe both shanks and stabs are clones of garling and stabs is the only clone they can control meanwhile maybe they can only control shanks if he is near them or something like shanks does have the free will right now but can be taken away whenever garling or imu wants to if he is in close contact
If It is shanks , so why did he still the gomu gomu from the WG ?
Here is my Shanks Duality theory. theory. Shanks isn’t the type to act without a reason. If he asked Luffy to fight him, it’s probably because he’s protecting something or can’t fully control himself. This could be Oda’s way of setting up an emotional clash between them.
Every character Luffy has fought against opposed everything he wants to do of their own free will. Oda is not going to break that pattern. When Luffy and Shanks fight it will be on their own terms and because they want to and are willing to kill for it.
Imagine if Shanks lost an arm on purpose just to let Luffy win in the future.
that ad read got me so good lol
Wouldn't his Crew notice if he just up and disappeared because he was all of sudden just summoned away.
nice content, was wondering the same, was gonna watch grandline review or ohara but liked this better
The reason I don’t think it’s Shanks is because Shanks’ crew is strong and I doubt they’d just let him disappear like that without chasing him, especially after they JUST left Wano to go after the One Piece.
Do I want it to be Shanks? Yes, the story would be so much better with evil Shanks or main antagonist Shanks.
I don’t think it’s impossible he is being controlled. We saw members of CP0 being reluctant with Dripper, Lucci, and Kaku. We also saw that Lucci had a black scarf. Maybe he’s using some of Imu’s power or something. Maybe Imu is able to control people. But Lucci also didn’t teleport with a big display of Haki.
I’m still trying to find out why Shanks was crying to Roger so maybe that could have something to do with it too.
It makes the most sense to me, and probably for the story, if Shanks is a clone instead of a sibling (if those are our other two options). In terms of theatrical drama, I don’t think this is going to turn into a soap opera. If this was Bleach, I could totally see it being his brother, but Oda doesn’t have that much melodrama in his stories. Sanji’s Whole Cake arc was the closest thing we got and we barely got a confrontation with Sanji’s family. But I do think Oda wants everyone to assume they are related.
I just hope it is more creative than a sibling and I hope the answer gives us insights on lore and history. If it is a clone, I there is so much more flexibility in possibilities that Oda could be in his wheelhouse for.
Question is also, why does Shanks have a bounty if he’s being controlled?
I think Danks is Figarland’s son. Young Figarland looks like Shanks but I think it’s more like how Zoro and Ushimaru look alike but he’s not Zoro’s father. Or if they are brothers then I think the Skoll and Hati parallel is great. Shanks chases the sun (Luffy) and Hati chases the (moon) Blackbeard? Blackbeard kills Danks and Luffy thinks it’s actually Shanks. In a way this is what causes Ragnarok.
I think Stabs will be named Sakasu or Scars in English
Sakasu means Circus and Shanks brother Buggy is a clown
Also a play on Sakazu-ki, the man Shanks stopped at Marineford
Another variation could be Sukasa
Mi kasa es su Kasa
My hat is your hat
“My house is your house” in spanish
Native cleansing is pretty specific. It could be that humans are the alien race of the one piece world.
Shanks is a failed garling clone that's why he was abandoned.
Shanks REAL brother is Buggy
Saint Garling Figarland's hairstyle looks like a star from the front and looks like a moon from the side as well for more parallelism. Luffy represents the Sun God of the One Piece World and Imu respectively represents the moon as the Sea Devil of the One Piece World! The moon is what controls the tides of the ocean. K.O.L believes that Imu’s Demonic power as the Sea Devil is the 1000 Demon Parade. Which grants demonic abilities to the Holy God Knights.
Shanks's twin brother could possibly be Ginny’s husband and Bonney’s biological father. He would still be old enough twelve years ago to SA Ginny and have her conceive Bonney. Maybe the female Holy God Knight next to him is also a Ginny clone similar to Lilith?
Mosa means "Copy" in Korean
In Japanese English translation "The Bastard".
Also Fierce, wildness, become furious, rave, rush, and strength.
Most people are taking the translation as "mosamosa" meaning hairy.
Maybe Lokis friend "Mosa" is actually Stabs who is a shanks clone.
It doesn't explain how the moshi is of an old guy that has beard
@greybo4034 The newly shown cold weather den den did you read the chap?
Please let your theory be true. If Shanks beats the rat allegations, his character remains so one-dimensional, its a waste.
He's not even remotely one dimensional lol but okay you gotta pay more attention to nuance
Not one dimensional we literally never see his perspective on things that happened before the story so his motivations are vague
Maybe the "Shanks clone" was not a clone or Shanks twin's but Garling with a younger appearance. The guy who said, "I need to talk about a certain pirate" was Garling, but with a younger appearance.
That's why he does not have the scars.
That’s what I thought at first too, but I don’t really see the need for him to alter his appearance.
Why would garling appear younger ? Also when garling came to the room to address others that he is a fellow elder literally everyone was stunned why would he appear younger to the same people?? He can just come as the regular garling
I think the bandage girl has the chained soldier fruit.... she tied my man down and then said its an order...
Cool video! :>
What if all the Red hair pirates are clones. Hence why shanks went after all established pirates bc he knew they were clones or some type of connection
Love your videos keep up the good work ❤
That summoned lady has a bandage bandage fruit or the mummy mummy fruit. It either saps energy, or squeezes super tight til it breaks through the person.
Idk if Shanks or Stabs is a literal puppet the way Doflamingo controlled Riku. But a ‘puppet’ because he is obedient to the Gorosei (possible clone is okay, like S-Hawk, S-Bear and their “free-will”. Zoro stated “you’re more human than him” when talking to S-Hawk, I bet that is the way Stabs is.
CP0 against Kaido said “I envy you” when regarding his free will too.
All varying degrees of “freedom”
Shanks beating the allegations against danks
So is shanks back to be a rat bastard or is he an Aizen level manipulator that planned gear 5 by scaring the gorosei
I know his eyes seems to be the same & don’t change but what if it was like a cavendish & Hakuba situation 🤔
Soooo they let him steal the nika fruit in the past...??
Yeah this video is a huge stretch. I highly doubt that it’s shanks. Realistically it makes more sense that this is either Shank’s brother or that he may even be a clone. And if a clone, then he’s probably a clone of Garling himself, and raised as a son. But the twin theory might be the right one. Maybe both are clones of Garling rather than sons, maybe have children wouldn’t guarantee that they would have Garling’s potential strength so opted to be cloned so that his strength could be passed on. Shanks brother is probably gonna have a name similar to Garling considering Roger and as the one to probably name Shanks.
Bro twin theory makes ultimate sense think about it Twin Kills Shanks right in front of Luffy ,, Luffy peaks and gives us the fight we secretly yern for Luffy VS sHANKS
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5:40 could be how they set up the luffy shanks fight
What if shanks has multiple personalities and just don’t remember when he is in certain state of mind 🧐
Shanks is too strong with haki to be placed under control
Roger said to Pedro " everyone has a role, wait until yours come" and Shanks role is to clear the road to the new pirate king but ..if the holy knights know about him why didn't Garling make a move to take back his first or second replica of himself ( or simply his son) after Roger execution? He was still young and weak to fight him..why they let him grew up to be what he is right now? And this is how your theories are looking valid.
Shanks is about to get merked.
Calling it now.
are you broku? or do you simply sound like his identical twin? lol
Shanks twin fasho
Good theory but i like the twin theory better